30 AMERICAN M48 PATTON vs 20 SOVIET T-55 TANKS
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Let's get this show on the road. M48 Patton vs T-55 is one of those "What IF" scenarios about fictional WW3 during the heat of the US and Soviet Union conflict in the 50s-60s. Today's editor cinematics was inspired by Fulda Gap, an infamous strategic location located in central Germany. First Generation MBTs are here, on one side we have the most-produced tank in the world and history, T-55. An excellent tank during its time while on the other hand, we have a powerful counterpart American M48 Patton however the T-54/T-55 is considered better.
As tank convoys roll in, we're getting closer to the escalation of this duel.
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This happened in Vietnam during the Easter Offensive, battle of FSB Pedro, the M48s rolled in and had a duel with T55/54s and Type 59s of North Vietnam from a distance of 2000 meters. 5 T55s were wiped out but none of the m48s were ever eliminated
Because the troops couldn’t use them properly
One, I wasn't a tanker but I had several friends that were. Two, I know for a fact, tanks would not be sitting idle on opposing ridgelines shooting it out and moving to get a better position to shoot. Throw in some maneuvering and see how things play out. I've worked along side the M60 quite a few times which is the M48's successor.
M48 never used the M82 APCBC as the default shell for its 90mm cannon. Which is M332 APCR/HVAP and M348 HEAT-FS
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Which is why it's totally outclass by a 100mm Gun but it was received upgrade of a A5 variants which isn't totally invalid during the match which gives a rivalry advantage over the T-55
Thanks for the fun video. I kind of thought it would end that way :) A 1940 matchup with French Char B1 Bis and Somua s35 vs German Mk IV and III would be cool.
Thanks for the idea
I mean, in a straight-up fight the French would win that. I don't know if these simulations take into account ergonomics, division of labour for the crew, access to radios and such
@@Paveway-chan Sadly none of the game out there is as hardcore to simulate these factors. I wish tho
Next: T-34 76 VS Pz.IV
But pz4 with short or long cannon?
@@OberstHansLanda largo
no,next.Pz.V Panther I Ausf.F vs T-34-85
High caliber pz maybe good
@@battlewar6245 no, next Pz.IV VS T-34 76
Well, i'm not surprised, that the M48 lost without the 90mm HEAT-FS
There is a battlefield reality at present: while the M48 versions have been retired from combat service in the armed forces of the countries, the T54/55 and its "brother" Type 59 are still fighting. active combat on the battlefields. It offers a high degree of inheritance to its descendants, which is directly still maintained on its hull, the China PLA's ZTZ-96.
Ztz 96 is junk. And is outdated. Go watch redeffects videos on Chinese tanks and see what they lack.
The M48 is not withdrawn. The ROC maintains the Cm12, a highly improved M48 that uses the M1 Abrams fire control, and has the M68A1 cannon which with the proper ammo has no issue knocking out the Ztz96
@@thomasmacdonough288 same for the pla. Their tank has no issue penetrating taiwanese tanks armors. Tho, i heard some news that taiwan will recive some m1a2 abrams in 2025 or so
There are still quite a few countries that use the M48.
@@muhammadfarrohkeyzar1988
The M1a2T is an interesting choice, but it isn't all that strong from what I've heard. It lacks the DU armour of a real M1a2 and it lacks an APS system. The new FCS and 120mm gun can help even the odds against a Ztz99 but I think it'd still be a first shot first kill scenario
some people just like:
Soviet tanks wins: inaccurate video
American tanks wins: *The Star-Spangled Banner playing*
Awesome video. PLEASE make a scenario like this one with King Tigers vs the M103 or the T54/55 vs M103. thanks and keep up the great work!!
Thanks for the idea!
T-55 is much stronger. They have thicker amour and stronger cannons. Moreover, T-55 are on the hills, they have so big advantage.
they wouldn't be able to hulldown on a hill very well if at all given their ridiculously low gun depression.
War thunder players 😬
M48 vs Centurion pls
It's great to see you return to doing another video! :)
I'd like to request however you might do an operation downfall video this year sometime? A large scale American invasion of the Japanese home islands?
Or maybe another operation unthinkable video like this? But the Sherman tank Vs the Russian T-34-85?
Or perhaps us British getting some representation so the Churchill tank Vs the Russian T-34-85 instead? 🤔
Operation Downfall is highly requested and I hope to get right into it Q1 2022
@@warfare11gaming Hooray! Thank you. :) I was also pondering if you could do another very historically accurate battle video like your Monti casino battle one?
Perhaps following the battle of Stalingrad? Or maybe the battle of Saipan? Alternatively the lake Balaton offensive? 🤔
What if nazi germany still exist in the cold war and they use post ww2 tanks and prototype tanks like King Tiger, Pz VII Lowe and maus against the cold war soviet union and they have t55, t62, etc.
In fact we already have a video of King Tiger vs T55 but there are certainly more possibilities with Lowe and Maus
These tank prototypes were designed for a ww1/ww2 scenario
it's like fighting with a musket and bayonet in a ww1 trench
@@joao-jn3ck I mean it’s kinda unfair since Nazi Germany ceased in 1945 and we don’t know what they would’ve developed and how it would’ve performed
You gave the M48 its weakest possible ammunition, and you overestimated the penetration power of the 100mm APBC shell greatly, granted you're likely going by incorrect information that came from WW2B:AG, which is more suited for BR-412D. The M48 in the 50's had access to M348 HEAT, which could penetrate 12" (305mm at vertical, 152mm at 60 degrees) at any range, v90 standard. And by 1958 had M431 Heat which could penetrate 13.4" (340mm vertical, 170 at 60) at any range, v90 standard. They also had M332A1 HVAP, though that would be more useful at close range, about 12.6"(320mm) at 1000yds or 9.1"(231mm) at 2000 yards vertical.
Yea but it wouldn’t be fun to watch them use heat
as far as i remmber T-55A also access to 100mm steel APFSDS shell 3BM25 which much more effective than HEAT , HVAP or APDS , along with 3BK17M HEAT-FS and 3BM-8 APDS
@@tranbachuyen6655 3bm25 wasn't until the late 70s, 3bm8 wasn't till about 67. And they didn't have heat for the gun to mid 60s iirc too.
@@Mathosalpha at least they have BR-412D that can penetrate 230 mm of armour + its APHE
Well maybe the mod doesnt provide those rounds for the m48
This was a nice battle
M60 vs m1 abrams or 1980s T-64 vs 1980s m1 abrams plz
Note: back then, the T-64 could penetrate abrams frontal armor, and withstand western 105mm apds, but the m1 was faster, and had better optics
Sounds good, I'll write it down
@@warfare11gaming how long is your list now?
m1 abram 1980 vs t80u?
😁LOL Did you know that the M900 APFSDS bullet fired from the 105mm M68A1 cannon can penetrate the T72B hull while the T72B has a kinetic energy of 500mm and the T64B is 450mm?
@@tin9759 the m900a1 appeared in the 90s. This scenario occurs in the 80s, back when the US 105mm apfsds could penetrate up to 420mm
Idea for a future video: 50 Sherman Jumbos (75mm) vs 20 Tiger 1s.
Jumbos win, tigers wouldnt penetrate them while they can
summing up: a cold war kursh XD
What kursh means ?
@@Eire_Aontaithe
He mean kurks soviet german tank battle
@@agiftarifkyardana1838 You didn't get it right either, it's Kursk*
When operation downfall? I've been waiting to see a video on that operation (ngl Im not sure if your PC can handle an Allied invasion of Japan, especially if there's gonna be a nuke in it) :V
As a tease, currently it is planned for Q1 2022
@@warfare11gaming :3
soviet made T-55A isn't out date 50s T-54 , it was new different beast that fire 100mm APFSDS shell 3BM25 , along with 3BK17M HEAT-FS and 3BM-8 APDS . all those shell will eat any kind of M48/M60 alive without any problem in an EQUAL fight . not only that in 80s the upgrade T-55AM-1 also come with extra composite armor on the hull and turret and 9M117 Bastion ATGM capable
M48 is powerful tank in Vietnam will take on NVA t34 and t55 tanks with 90mm main gun
Great video, but I still feel the GoH effects are rather lacklustre compared to some of the AS2 mods. Also, many of the GoH effects have particles turned off so they can run on lesser machines. Have you considered tunring them on (bulk replace ## with # in the effect files) to have a really particles and sprite rich battleground? THanks again for your great work (if only we could play these maps ;) )
i th ought the frame rate was fantastic - my computer would explode before it achieved the smoothness of this video
Bro this is really cool also patton series and t54/55 are my favorite tanks
Thanks
One small problem. Unlike Western practice of generally preferring to fight with an open TC's hatch, Soviet practice was to enter combat with all hatches shut and dogged down.
Westerns don't fight with open hatches in the middle of the war. Do you just only listen to propaganda?
*Слава советским танкистам!!!*
Why 30 vs 20 when almost ten times more T-55s were produced? Also, Soviet Army fielded far more tanks compared to the US army and other Western armies.
Which is why the USSR would crush NATO in tank battles.
China vs taiwan plis 😁
Next: IS-2 VS Panzer III
It'd be a massacre
Unbalanced
wtf
Awesome Vid and Map Szenario Man!
Ty!
At least this video isn't bullshit anymore :)
Tanks armed with German 88mm guns could not penetrate the front armor of 54/55 tanks.
In Yugoslav testing, the front of the T-54 turret could only be penetrated by PzGr-39-1 APCBC shells fired from the KwK-43 88mm gun on the Tiger II tank at a distance of more than 600 meters. The front bodywork is completely impenetrable, even from 100 meters.
American: enemies attack
Soviet Union: try bitches
if that I'm from Russia
Na ah
Next: 4 T-54s vs One guy with two grocery bags
Best photo of bravery ever taken...
That was a Chinese T something else, maybe a T-59, since China didn’t have a T-54, but their own Version
@@BeingFireRetardant He was executed unfortunately tho I believe
@@veteranpg3d156
Anyone who speaks truth to power, even silently, usually dies. That only magnifies his act of defiance of tyranny, because he was willing to lay down his life on behalf of his people.
Very cool
Next :30 leopard 2 vs 100 t34
t 55 great design,always great
Ya it looks clean.
this was during the Vietnam war
This made me play mowas2 again.
A test with the M3A1 90mm cannon mounted on the M47 Patton checked that the T-54's armor was very good by the standards of the time. The 90mm T33 APBC round is completely unable to penetrate the front of the T-54 turret at any range, the front part of the turret side can only be defeated at very close range of 250 meters. When the T33 was fired from the newer M36 gun on the M48 Patton, it was still unable to penetrate the front of the hull, or only the front of the T-54 turret at 350 m, or the front. of the side of the turret at a distance of 850 m. When fighting with T-54, M48 tank must use high-grade M304 APDS armor-piercing ammunition to penetrate the front of the T-54 turret at 750 meters, or penetrate the front of the body at a distance. 200 - 300 meters. In contrast, the T-54's 100mm cannon when using BR-412D APCBC ammunition can penetrate the armor in front of the M48 Patton's turret at 1,200 meters, penetrate the body armor at 500 meters, and if used ammunition BR-412D APCR, the distance to destroy M48 is even further. Later, when the 3BM-8 APDS ammunition was released (1967), the T-54 had no difficulty in penetrating the armor in front of the M60 tank at a range of 1000 meters.
Great match up!
Problem is , they are not taking into account things like velocity . That is very important . The difference between the 75mm used in the panther , vs the 75 used in the panzer four . They are both the same cal . , but the one in the panther was high velocity , and had FAR greater pennitration . The US 90mm , was the better gun in this case . It also was high velocity . Thats the problem , when variables . There was a reason why all US tanks from after WW2 , up until the M1 Abrams , were equipped with that gun .
M-60 vs T-72 please 👻
Can you do Turtorils how to create some battles in Men of War Assault Quat 2. 👌
這樣比較根本不公平!M48坦克屬於早期車種使用90毫米主砲,它的對手是蘇製T54坦克使用100毫米主砲。怎麼它的對手是蘇製T55坦克使用100公釐主砲,車載瞄準系統很先進。如果要對付T55坦克,那麼就要搬出M48A3 坦克使用主砲105毫米線膛砲,更先進坦克瞄準系統。
Ура, наши победили!
But interestingly when they actually met in combat in the Middle East, the M48 came out very much on top. The game doesn't take into account training and logistics. Similarly, M60s crushed T62 AND T72 tanks in the early 80s in Lebanon. Again, not what a computer simulation would have anticipated. Russian weapons are over estimated by the Russians for xenophobic and propaganda purposes and over estimated in the west to justify large defense contracts for the military industrial complex. Both sides cheat up Russian capabilities. The proof is in the Ukrainian pudding.
Clearly over estimated the armor of the T-55 reference Valley of Tears during the Yom Kippur War.
T55s in the Yom Kippur War were knocked out by guns capable of killing them , israël didn't even use M48s they used centurions, shermans and M60s plus captured T series tanks
Now have them both use HEAT FS rounds...
HEAT FS is a game changer for sure. Pretty OP at that time
Do something on the basis of the Cold War on the latest version 1.7.3 there and the fleet has been added and there is a lot more. In the spring, 1.7.4 will bring more content.Thanks.
Thanks for reminding. I'll check it out at least
Отличное видео!
This is what I’m expecting
Su 152 va Stumrtiger plis
Это очевидно советские танки всегда сильнее были!
30 vs 20
so it's obviously T-55 is better than M48
Leopard 1 vs T62A
СССР сила, Америка могила!)
Next: Dora VS KV44
Good work man keep on going on your channel and of course i Will support you hope you can reach Millions of subscriber anyways i have sibsxibe you
Thank you, appreciate it!
Безумно интересно, в кого стреляли из зенитных пулемётов при отсутствии пехоты и авиации?
Мне тоже интересно, если заряжающий торчит в люке у дшк, кто ж тогда снаряды в топку кидает?
@@user-ds3tg7gu3h Разве это не стрелок-радист :?? с ДШК стреляет ??
@@user-no2kv5vn7m на 55-ке не было стрелков-радистов. ДШКМТ на люке заряжающего. )))
Nice
Next:30 T-54 vs 20 M-60
100 T-34/85 vs. 30 Panthers!
Still waiting for big cinematic battle
Very cool, Maybe it's only one Game but I liked.
Very nice!!
Thanks!
0:43 what is music theme?
I like it
It was exclusively made for me
20 Locust vs 20 panzer 2 luchs?
Can you make Jagdtiger vs cold war tanks?Or Jagdtiger vs modern tanks(because jagdtiger are strong).
In 1991, West Germany brought a T-72M1 of the East German army to test its armor's durability against 105mm cannon fire (then it was the standard gun size on NATO tanks such as M60 Patton, Leopard 1, . ..), the result is as follows[10]:
The DM33 kinetic energy bullet can only penetrate the front of the turret at a distance of less than 1,500 meters.
The 105mm DM12 concave shell can only penetrate the side of the turret, while the front armor of the turret cannot penetrate.
It should be noted that the experimental T-72 is only an export version of the T-72M1, which has thinner armor than the domestic Soviet T-72A and T-72B and is also not equipped with reactive armor. explode. This test surprised Germany and the West, forcing them to accelerate research into new types of armor-piercing ammunition that could defeat the T-72. NATO also removed the 105mm cannon because it proved useless, replacing it with the more powerful 120mm cannon.
In May 1996, the US military also brought some T-72A equipped with explosive reactive armor Kontakt-5 to test firing. As a result, the M829A1 120mm shell (the modern armor-piercing shell with a depleted uranium core fitted to the American M1A2 tank at that time) could not penetrate the front armor of the tested T-72A. The US military also tested the 30mm GAU-8 Avenger gun (of the A-10 Thunderbolt II tank attack aircraft), the 30mm M320 cannon (of the AH-64 Apache helicopter) fired on the roof of the T-72A. , and fired a barrage of standard NATO anti-tank missiles at the front of the T-72A - all with the same result: the T-72A's armor could not be penetrated. This test shows the high protection ability of Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armor, when equipped with this armor even a T-72A tank (version born in 1979) can resist fire on modern Western tanks.
Russian VS American tanks, yes!!!!!
*Soviet
2:38 the human inside the tank survived?
T 62 vs M60
Tank battle, cold war style.
Next: tiguer 2 vs. Kv-2
It's T54
How about rubbish to rubbish: Japanese type 97 vs Italian M13 ?
Yes a video
If it was a m48a3 patton tank. T55 would have lost. Not to mention. M48 patton is a much more modern mbt compared to the T55. Those out there saying m48 isn't used anymore need to go do some research. It is still in active service. With some countries.
It still being in service with third countries isn't something to write home about, Mali still uses T-34-85 s does that make it the best? The M48 was outgunned and out armored by soviet MBTs
If you are talking about the upgunned version of the m48, you have choosen the wrong tank, since the m48a5 is what you are looking for, the m48a3 has improvements, but it is nothing special compared to what t-55 already had. T-55's were better, they were simply crewed by untrained arabs and third world countries that ruined its reputation. Also, stop calling the M48 an MBT, it is not, both T-55 and M48 in all versions were medium tanks, the first main battle tank was the T-62
20 M4A3E8 vs 10 Panthers
Can we have T-95E1 vs king tigers?
Possible
Leopard 2A7 VS T-90AM "Proriv"
Now Thailand have m48 .
Do you have the Chilean M60 Sherman?
If you can, are you able to do M-60s vs IS-3s?
Unfortunately I don't have access to Chilean M60. Just regular American M60
@@warfare11gaming Well, that's sad.
The Sherman M60 is an israeli modification sold to Chile
Can you do Conqueror vs M103?
The winner: T-55, Soviet Armor Supreme.
Where is 90mm M348 HEAT -FS ?
IS 2 vs Tiger1
T34(heavy tank American) vs IS-3
Lowe pz vs heavy t 29
Вообщем победила, "ДРУЖБА"!)
1950 korea war M26 vs t34 battle Yeongdeungpo m26 win
M47 vs T34
Странные какие-то русские. Не матерятся, где " бей тридварасов" " получи фашист гранату" или" ёб ни того пениса справа" . И форма левая, где шлемофоны, где танковые комбинезоны?.
At close distance both cannons will make a kill
T-64 vs Chieftains
there is a epic tale in another universe were w w 3 is not fictional but a clash of titans
T 14 armata vs maus
T-14 armata will win becaues it is a new tank.
Leopard 2a7+ vs t 90 ms
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Puedes recrear la batalla de los 6 días (Yom kippur)