And also how the only reason he doesn't murder and rape as much as he wants is simply because it's bad for business to do such things to possible future colleagues or partners. Stone cold.
Like a dog... I was watching this episode today and literally rolled over laughing at this. Cy is so gobsmacked at being talked to this way it's terrific. You know Hearst is a badass if he puts a monster like Cy in his place. Powers Boothe is the man and definitely has one of the coolest crispiest voices ever it could be a character on its own. Great acting, great show and another season would've gone down like a shot of whiskey.
His aunt Lou ran away like a crazy person, trying to save her son. All stood up to him, recognizing he could damage his interests. Alma was a clueless woman, that was not Wild Bill you were meeting with, he knew him from Comstock. Silver. No one knew the Earp's 😂
@@CallMeUbba Oh he absolutely gave a fuck, he even started crying because of how much the camp disliked him at one point, when he was talking to Aunt Lou's son.
Of all the television villians, Hearst is the one that have scared me most. He is believable, unpredictable and without limits. And in an environment where the bastard really could abuse his powers. I tip my hat for Mr. Gerald McRaney's skills as a actor. Trixie, next time bring a bigger gun..
Powers Boothe was just incredible in this scene - the range of emotion going through Tolliver, shame, incredulity, irritation, acceptance...all mixed emotions but suppressed under the need to impress the boss and act the part. Plus he finally met someone crazier than himself, and had awareness of it.
well it seems pretty clear that he was mostly raised by his own parents' house servants and replaces his own parents with them and "The Earf" -- what speaks to him. I think that's partly why the whole back-massage scam kinda worked-- the man was somewhat on his level for conversation and was good enough at kissing ass to make it feel natural. _And he seriously needs a friend._ Even Tolliver is nicer to his henchmen dopes and kinda pally for the same lonesome reasons. That's why he's all clingy with Josie, a woman on his level.
mcraney and boothe were amazing in this series. i really wish they hadn't cancelled deadwood - tolliver was just about to have some kind of breakdown in season 4.
Yeah, something would have happened there, being relegated to Hearts dog to the point of anger to stab his dope fiend in the femoral artery. Probably quickly "We're bringing in someone to assist." and then " We're bringing in someone to advise" and then "Why the fuck are you here?"
Even though Hearst was the king villain, I still feel Tolliver was the most unlikeable character in the entire series. Hearst did what he felt he needed to, but also had a touch of class and room for basic decency (such as letting Richardson keep his job), but Tolliver just abused people out of pique such as 'stupid' Nadine and killing Leon.
Swearengen's growth by the end of season 3 was great. He literally put the camp's growth and prosperity ahead of his own need for revenge because with Captain Turner disposed of, Al could have had Hearst gruesomely violated and killed and fed to the bacon.
There were other men present besides the captain with Hearst. Even before he called in reinforcements. Besides you kill a man like Hearst and there will be no place on earth to hide. Remember, historically Hearst has a son, William, who would be eager to avenge his father. He isnt shown here but something tells me he is a chip off the old block.
He is not a psychopath, he cares how others perceive him. BTW, most of them lead perfectly normal lives, it just makes being a serial killer much easier to handle.
Not that I've read. Wikipedia's article on the man makes him appear like a pretty standard businessman. But certainly there WERE businessmen who were monsters. Thomas Edison, for instance, was a truly evil man.
Wondered the same, I mean you need to be somewhat of sociopath to get to that level but yeesh, this interpretation of Hearst was truly horrifying, definitely one of the best bad guys I’ve seen in tv or film
@Maryjaneslave - Exactly my sentiment - I shall eternally resent HBO for instead opting in favor of John from Cincinnatti; a fourth season of Deadwood would have been so much better, but alas we shall never have it!
HBO isn't one to shy from costs, intact, almost every person in deadwood was then hired to other shows, some with their very own featured movies. Same with Rome, if you look back on it. Yeah, those other TV shows kinda sucked, or movies, doubt actors were complaining
Yeah but I think definitely if they were planning on having future seasons so I was just setting them up to try to take him down after he got what he wanted there was no way that he was actually tolerating that... In his mind he would tolerate it in the short run to finish a head in the long run.
I love Deadwood, but I think they went a little overboard on Hearst. They seemed too eager to make him a metaphor for everything the writers dislike about capitalism, and in so doing you lose the human aspect a bit. One of the beauties of the show is that it took someone like Swearengen, arguably as much of a moral monster as Hearst (abusive, willing to murder a child...worthy of being locked up for life in lawful society), and it showed many dimensions of him, and even get the audience to root for him. Also, I highly doubt that in real life Hearst would be dealing with the likes of Swearengen, Tolliver, etc... He would have officers of his company (and other underlings) handle all that stuff.
I didn't take it as "Hearst", exactly, sure, as you said, why get involved - just have interactions with "whites who obey you like dogs". Just have your "underlings" do all the dirty work. Al spotted Ringhousen in a second. A fall "white person" to provide "illegal testimony". Oh wow, this sounds familiar. They were all breaking "laws" simply by being there. Swearengen, as depicted, was a leader of the "community". Meetings were held at his establishment, (some) politicians, who no one dare touch? Or influence? Needs of the camp were saw to, at his place. (Not historical, but put that into it) And they'll do it. And not get personally involved at all. Hire some Pinkertons, larger than US Army. You might want to oversee operations though. Soap, Soap with a prize inside guy was probably pissed that Seth arrived. When some guy "found $5" in soap. Obviously his friend or fellow soap maker. Much bigger scale is how I took it. If Al was shot down, well, can understand it. He's not a gunfighter, he won't be there, he'll be in close, with a knife. It's not "rooting" in the sense we approve of all of his actions, or pretty close to any of them. He's a great fucked up genuine character, and if he got shot in the back of the head, we'd be like "well, kinda deserved it" then it becomes about the one administering the justice. :p and why.
I love how he so casually recounts how him getting a little pissy brought him close to murder and rape. This show has the best acting ever.
And also how the only reason he doesn't murder and rape as much as he wants is simply because it's bad for business to do such things to possible future colleagues or partners. Stone cold.
Like a dog...
I was watching this episode today and literally rolled over laughing at this. Cy is so gobsmacked at being talked to this way it's terrific. You know Hearst is a badass if he puts a monster like Cy in his place.
Powers Boothe is the man and definitely has one of the coolest crispiest voices ever it could be a character on its own. Great acting, great show and another season would've gone down like a shot of whiskey.
1:24 Cy thinking “Jesus Christ this guy is actually fucking insane.”
He's like "I know I'm fucked up bit you're FUCKED up"
He's just as bad
Gerald McRaney is a damn good actor.
The best thing about Hearst's character was that he was aware of just how fucking horrible he was. And couldn't do anything to stop himself.
And why should he, everyone with any contact knew it. But, that's what a fuckton of gold gets you
His aunt Lou ran away like a crazy person, trying to save her son. All stood up to him, recognizing he could damage his interests. Alma was a clueless woman, that was not Wild Bill you were meeting with, he knew him from Comstock. Silver.
No one knew the Earp's 😂
No he didn’t really give a fuck
@@CallMeUbba Oh he absolutely gave a fuck, he even started crying because of how much the camp disliked him at one point, when he was talking to Aunt Lou's son.
@@erikandersen3274cried?
Hearst has got to be the greatest villain in all of quality television.
+MrLilnd the greatest grandfather of Jherico? :P
Of all the television villians, Hearst is the one that have scared me most. He is believable, unpredictable and without limits. And in an environment where the bastard really could abuse his powers. I tip my hat for Mr. Gerald McRaney's skills as a actor. Trixie, next time bring a bigger gun..
The scariest thing is how he gets away with it all. Deadwood ends with the rich guy getting everything he wants and riding off into the sunset.
Would it go any differently lou? :p
He easily could carry a series on its own. George Hearst com stock years
Al was machiavellian
Cy was evil
Hearst was Satan
These last 5 seconds MAY have been Gerald's finest acting.
Powers Boothe was just incredible in this scene - the range of emotion going through Tolliver, shame, incredulity, irritation, acceptance...all mixed emotions but suppressed under the need to impress the boss and act the part. Plus he finally met someone crazier than himself, and had awareness of it.
I don't think he thought of him as crazier.. I think he thought of him as playable..like take it all. Get what I want n then take him out.
Just remember, George is the father of William Randolph Hearst. Imagine having that guy as a dad.
well it seems pretty clear that he was mostly raised by his own parents' house servants and replaces his own parents with them and "The Earf" -- what speaks to him.
I think that's partly why the whole back-massage scam kinda worked-- the man was somewhat on his level for conversation and was good enough at kissing ass to make it feel natural. _And he seriously needs a friend._ Even Tolliver is nicer to his henchmen dopes and kinda pally for the same lonesome reasons. That's why he's all clingy with Josie, a woman on his level.
He’s also either the grandfather, or great grandfather of Patty Hearst.
It was hard to blame Leon for being a jittery dope fiend being in the employ of Cy.
mcraney and boothe were amazing in this series. i really wish they hadn't cancelled deadwood - tolliver was just about to have some kind of breakdown in season 4.
Yeah, something would have happened there, being relegated to Hearts dog to the point of anger to stab his dope fiend in the femoral artery. Probably quickly "We're bringing in someone to assist." and then " We're bringing in someone to advise" and then "Why the fuck are you here?"
Exactly Cy was set to play a big role in season4.
Trixie should have gone for the head
Or for the cock
@@Losrandiryou'd like that
What a masterpiece. Pity there are just three seasons
Movie is up, baby yeah
@@wreccen Really a shame that they didn't get a chance to resolve Cy's character while he was still alive.
@Bob Brock "To whom are you speaking ..."
I wouldve taken just 2 more seasons of Deadwood than the 14 seasons of that Sanat Clarita Diet bullshit that Olyphant did instead
“Ouch.”
Even though Hearst was the king villain, I still feel Tolliver was the most unlikeable character in the entire series. Hearst did what he felt he needed to, but also had a touch of class and room for basic decency (such as letting Richardson keep his job), but Tolliver just abused people out of pique such as 'stupid' Nadine and killing Leon.
The point of authority.
My snout hurts from laughing.
Hearst might be the greatest villain in TV history.
Swearengen's growth by the end of season 3 was great. He literally put the camp's growth and prosperity ahead of his own need for revenge because with Captain Turner disposed of, Al could have had Hearst gruesomely violated and killed and fed to the bacon.
There were other men present besides the captain with Hearst. Even before he called in reinforcements. Besides you kill a man like Hearst and there will be no place on earth to hide. Remember, historically Hearst has a son, William, who would be eager to avenge his father. He isnt shown here but something tells me he is a chip off the old block.
He doesn’t kill him as he says in one episode that more of Hearst types will take his place, obviously not word for word but it’s what he meant
Better the devil you know, I suppose…
Yes, I think Al realized that even if he killed Hearst. The Pinkerton types would just come for him and the town.
Nah killing a guy like Hearst is not an option... Feds would have came for Al and he was smart enough to know that
@WiseGuy5674 Drinking whiskey all day and generally being a BOSS makes your beard grow fast
Kok sukka! Woo Big Man! Hearst KOK SUKKA!
THAT'S CALLED, JUSTICE AT A DISTANCE.
what an inhuman psychopath hearst is! hearst haunts anton chigurh's nightmares.
He is not a psychopath, he cares how others perceive him. BTW, most of them lead perfectly normal lives, it just makes being a serial killer much easier to handle.
This is hard to watch! Haha. Cy was one of my favoirte characters. No a nice guy, sure. But I just loved watching him. Funny but also chilling.
Hi daddy Hearst
The only problem with Deadwood movie was not having the entire cast.
A few more seasons woulda been great
Yo, this white boi discovered delayed gratification! Good for him.
Was the real George Hurst this much of a monster?
Not that I've read. Wikipedia's article on the man makes him appear like a pretty standard businessman. But certainly there WERE businessmen who were monsters. Thomas Edison, for instance, was a truly evil man.
No. But then, few people could be. Deadwood's Hurst is the closest thing to Satan any work of media has ever produced.
Wondered the same, I mean you need to be somewhat of sociopath to get to that level but yeesh, this interpretation of Hearst was truly horrifying, definitely one of the best bad guys I’ve seen in tv or film
@Maryjaneslave - Exactly my sentiment - I shall eternally resent HBO for instead opting in favor of John from Cincinnatti; a fourth season of Deadwood would have been so much better, but alas we shall never have it!
HBO isn't one to shy from costs, intact, almost every person in deadwood was then hired to other shows, some with their very own featured movies. Same with Rome, if you look back on it. Yeah, those other TV shows kinda sucked, or movies, doubt actors were complaining
But, it was never one or the other. I don't know butchie, instead
so he wants Cy to be a go between right?
Hearst is such a horrible character but portrayed so brilliant!
Hearst rocks!
Hearst is a piece of sh!t, say that again when if he takes your town over, dumbass.
@@kingdoof4437cry
I loved Cy until Hearst came around and lifted his skirt. The only disappointment I have with Deadwood
You're one of those idiots that wants everything spoonfed to you, I can tell.
Yeah but I think definitely if they were planning on having future seasons so I was just setting them up to try to take him down after he got what he wanted there was no way that he was actually tolerating that... In his mind he would tolerate it in the short run to finish a head in the long run.
George Hearst made season 3 unbearable.
I love Deadwood, but I think they went a little overboard on Hearst. They seemed too eager to make him a metaphor for everything the writers dislike about capitalism, and in so doing you lose the human aspect a bit.
One of the beauties of the show is that it took someone like Swearengen, arguably as much of a moral monster as Hearst (abusive, willing to murder a child...worthy of being locked up for life in lawful society), and it showed many dimensions of him, and even get the audience to root for him.
Also, I highly doubt that in real life Hearst would be dealing with the likes of Swearengen, Tolliver, etc... He would have officers of his company (and other underlings) handle all that stuff.
I didn't take it as "Hearst", exactly, sure, as you said, why get involved - just have interactions with "whites who obey you like dogs". Just have your "underlings" do all the dirty work. Al spotted Ringhousen in a second. A fall "white person" to provide "illegal testimony". Oh wow, this sounds familiar.
They were all breaking "laws" simply by being there. Swearengen, as depicted, was a leader of the "community". Meetings were held at his establishment, (some) politicians, who no one dare touch? Or influence? Needs of the camp were saw to, at his place. (Not historical, but put that into it)
And they'll do it. And not get personally involved at all. Hire some Pinkertons, larger than US Army. You might want to oversee operations though.
Soap, Soap with a prize inside guy was probably pissed that Seth arrived. When some guy "found $5" in soap. Obviously his friend or fellow soap maker. Much bigger scale is how I took it.
If Al was shot down, well, can understand it. He's not a gunfighter, he won't be there, he'll be in close, with a knife. It's not "rooting" in the sense we approve of all of his actions, or pretty close to any of them. He's a great fucked up genuine character, and if he got shot in the back of the head, we'd be like "well, kinda deserved it" then it becomes about the one administering the justice. :p and why.
I laughed so hard watching this scene.