How To Repair An Old Briggs Clutch On A RotoTiller - Episode 2 of 7 Tiller Series

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024

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  • @StevesSmallEngineSaloon
    @StevesSmallEngineSaloon  3 года назад +13

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  • @Hjerte_Verke
    @Hjerte_Verke 11 месяцев назад +8

    It's not boring to show every "tedious" step in disassembly. A lot of beginners, who may even have this exact same machine, will benefit from seeing how it all comes apart especially the things you didn't mention like the belt and pulleys, the belt guard, etc etc. People may need a video like this to see what parts go where and will also use it to see if parts are missing, especially since the one in this video seems factory complete. But do it your way I suppose.

  • @markmckeen5705
    @markmckeen5705 3 года назад +25

    Do the Valves next. Thanks

  • @watermanone7567
    @watermanone7567 3 года назад +18

    Nice viedo, remove and seat the valves and set the valve adjustment and then do the points and condenser. Thanks

  • @scottfirman
    @scottfirman 3 года назад +13

    I have always used a little block of wood to knock the clutch loose on those engines. I have been using it for years. I know they sell that fancy tool but an old timer taught me and he scoffed at me for suggesting specialized tools. Same with the flywheel knock off tool. A simple wack on the crank shaft with the nut screwed on breaks the flywheel loose. I have had to replace the clutch many times because the balls were rusted and pitted. I have also broke a few 1/4 in screen screws. I learned a long time ago to lube those screws and wack them with a punch if they fight me. Not suprised no spark. Usually just the points needing cleaned. I would get the compression up before worrying about spark. If the valves are damaged, seats are junk or rings are bad, I usually give up and call it a lost cause. No one I know wants to spend the money now days to rebuild a 5hp engine. We live in a throw away world. The sad part is that old engine is 10 times better quality than a new engine but these kids now days argue stating the Harbor Freight engines are far more superior." Really? I doubt they would last as long ",is always my come back. Kids.

    • @mannys9130
      @mannys9130 3 года назад +1

      The Harbor Freight engines are Honda clones and they are actually pretty good. They're overhead valve and nicely modern so they are more fuel efficient, quieter, and make more power for size. They are popular for go-kart racing where they get flogged around a track for many hours. There are stage 1, 2, and 3 racing upgrade kits that replace parts to increase power. If I had to replace an old flathead Briggs 5HP today, I'd put a Harbor Freight Predator 6HP in it instead, no hesitation.
      "The future is now old man."
      -A "Kid" (Millennial) 🤙

    • @joefudd
      @joefudd 3 года назад

      I used to use a pipe wrench to spin off those clutches. But sometimes I have broken off an ear that holds the screen down. Back in the day there was no such tool available for removing these clutches. Maybe I need to buy one now?

    • @bushmaster2936
      @bushmaster2936 3 года назад

      @@joefudd The tool has been around as long as the clutches have been used.

  • @darellsunderlin4670
    @darellsunderlin4670 3 года назад +15

    Valves next ,and when ever I have the clutch off I always pull that washer off the shaft and check the flywheel key . When you redo the points I'd consider using the B&S magnetron add on ignition module.!!!! Makes them run so much better !

    • @StevesSmallEngineSaloon
      @StevesSmallEngineSaloon  3 года назад +5

      Right on

    • @psdozer
      @psdozer 3 года назад +2

      Great series Steve. Darrell’s comment is spot on and I might add emory cloth that flywheel and coil while the flywheel is off.

    • @joefudd
      @joefudd 3 года назад +2

      Long ago I have converted all of my old Briggs engines over from points to solid state ignition. I have a K-Mart 22" Murray push mower that I got as a kid brand new in 1970 that I still use today for trimming where my zero turn can't reach next to flower beds, fence lines, etc. It still starts with the first pull because I take care of it, keep the valves adjusted (end gap) and fresh diaphragms under the carburetor and always use Stabil.

    • @tomrogers9467
      @tomrogers9467 3 года назад +1

      On a horizontal that only runs a belt there’s not too much likelihood of key damage. On a rotary mover, absolutely, every time! Still a good idea to check while you’re there.

  • @lesterfougere6923
    @lesterfougere6923 Год назад +2

    Steve,the more I watch your videos the more anxious I am to work on small engines. Your contagious,great video.

  • @briankummer6537
    @briankummer6537 3 года назад +7

    Valves and compression for next video 👍

  • @kentseymour2084
    @kentseymour2084 3 года назад +4

    Just found your site. Have an over 40 year old briggs. Fixed broken starter rope now clutch might engage might not. Will try cleaning it

  • @michaelbaumgardner2530
    @michaelbaumgardner2530 3 года назад +36

    I believe I'd fix the valve first in case it doesn't have enough compression to actually start.

    • @StevesSmallEngineSaloon
      @StevesSmallEngineSaloon  3 года назад +8

      Thank You...

    • @joefudd
      @joefudd 3 года назад +3

      Yep! Also lap them with lapping compound and check and adjust the valve stem end gap clearances between the tappets/lifters too after wire wheeling off the valves to clean them up). Better valve seal = better compression and more power!

  • @shanemoore8025
    @shanemoore8025 3 года назад +2

    My vote is for the valves as the next video. For no particular reason other than that valve looks horrendous. I’m interested in seeing how that gets fixed. Thanks!!

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 Год назад +1

    Good information for a lot of folks who are learning

  • @herenow2895
    @herenow2895 3 года назад +2

    Good work Steve. I'm enjoying this little restoration series.
    I reckon it's got to be the valve and compression next. If that's not sorted, there's no point having a spark.

  • @alexwestman8289
    @alexwestman8289 3 года назад +1

    I'm just learning how to work on small engines and equipment . Your videos are very helpful.

  • @darrellbrown7738
    @darrellbrown7738 2 года назад +3

    I enjoy very much watching your informative videos, especially when they are a series like the 1970’s garden tiller.. I appreciate watching you use your expertise to bring a machine that looks trashed completely unusable back to life. I would like to see more videos like this one in the future. Thank You for sharing what you have learned in 30 some years of small engine repair. I can now do many repairs myself.

  • @edwardmalfroid946
    @edwardmalfroid946 3 года назад +2

    Good job! Make sure you cover properly setting the governor. Thanks.

  • @earlmcgill5867
    @earlmcgill5867 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video! Got mine working just fine, looks like previous owner had greased it up good.

  • @albyers5554
    @albyers5554 3 года назад +3

    Doesn't matter which you do just along you do both 👍👍 looking forward to you bringing it back to life

  • @lesbender236
    @lesbender236 3 года назад +14

    I'm a bit surprised that you overlooked one item on the clutch: the little hole on the end is for oil for the clutch and crankshaft surfaces, there is a little felt wick inside that soaks up oil and keeps those surfaces lubed. A little shot of oil every year or so will keep the clutch from rusting to the crank.

    • @tomrogers9467
      @tomrogers9467 3 года назад +2

      I just opened the comments to make your point. If Steve didn’t remove the felt wick before cleaning, it’s now soaked in toilet cleaner- that’s not going to be a good long term reaction with the metal!

    • @lesbender236
      @lesbender236 3 года назад

      @@tomrogers9467 True, but the crap is out!

    • @wadeconney6507
      @wadeconney6507 2 года назад +1

      Thanks for mentioning! I just had to clean my clutch, and out popped this black foam thing? I of course replaced it, I was thinking that was what it was for. I was going to ask about it, but I don’t now. Thanks!

    • @patmagnatta3420
      @patmagnatta3420 2 года назад

      Valves....

    • @fposmith
      @fposmith Год назад +1

      That engine was filled with water !

  • @scrappysgarage7404
    @scrappysgarage7404 3 года назад +3

    I wish i had one of these engines but it's soo hard finding them. I think you should do the spark next. Nice vid

    • @darellsunderlin4670
      @darellsunderlin4670 3 года назад +1

      This engine should be easy to find , I've probably got 6 or 8 of them.

    • @StevesSmallEngineSaloon
      @StevesSmallEngineSaloon  3 года назад +1

      Thank You...

    • @scrappysgarage7404
      @scrappysgarage7404 3 года назад

      @@darellsunderlin4670 i would love to buy one or two off of you

    • @scrappysgarage7404
      @scrappysgarage7404 3 года назад

      @@StevesSmallEngineSaloon have you ever seen a maytag engine? It would be really cool if you worked on one

  • @mikec1295
    @mikec1295 3 года назад +2

    Let's see the valves next. Thanks for the videos.

  • @gravelyman
    @gravelyman 3 года назад +2

    I would do the valves first. You can always take care of the spark issue after you know it has compression. Thanks Steve 🔧👍

  • @donhurst8459
    @donhurst8459 3 года назад +4

    Valve Steve. Cheers.

  • @patrickpoulard24
    @patrickpoulard24 3 года назад +3

    I have another idea of what video you should do. I would love to see you do a small engine rebuild. I think you should also do a video about when it is proper to us Never Seeze and when is it not proper to use Never Seeze.

  • @bengearhart4613
    @bengearhart4613 3 года назад +2

    valves and compression next. Loving the series keep it up Steve.

  • @KidRondeau
    @KidRondeau 2 года назад +1

    Dude! My dad just gave me his old Agway tiller...he said it was from the late '80s...but the engine code says it was made in 1979! It looks a LOT like the one you're rehabilitating here, and I'm looking forward to using your video series as a guide. Thanks for the great work!!

  • @JackGrahamAircraftAluminumArt
    @JackGrahamAircraftAluminumArt 2 месяца назад

    I have the same issues on a rototiller with the same engine I am working on. Thanks for this series.

  • @stonesauer5781
    @stonesauer5781 3 года назад +2

    Really enjoying this series Steve...it takes me back to being a kid seeing family manhandle this beast every year in our huge gardens.

  • @rossgebert9422
    @rossgebert9422 3 года назад

    Don't matter what is next, I enjoy watching your channel. Thanks Steve.

  • @JJLandscaping
    @JJLandscaping 3 года назад +1

    Another awesome and educational video. Never knew how to fix a clutch, now I do. Thanks

  • @BigScreenLife
    @BigScreenLife 11 месяцев назад +1

    I've used 3in1 multi purpose oil inside the clutch assembly, found it works quite well and its very thin and doesn't stick anything.

  • @trevorfillmore698
    @trevorfillmore698 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Steve I got my grandfather's old tiller and it started screaming at me. I don't have that tool for the clutch but going to try channel locks. Your the first channel I come to when I have a small engine problem. Told the boys at work about your channel I work for the DOT so all truck drivers and heavy equipment operators I should them you video of greasing a chain saw clutch not one of us know about it and we all run big saws of our own.

  • @chrisgear402
    @chrisgear402 3 года назад +3

    Definitely the valves so you can check the compression. Thank you for all your great videos. You have taught me a lot.

  • @josephrich6014
    @josephrich6014 3 года назад +1

    Another great video. I just picked up an old lawn mower and clutch is stuck on it. Definitely going to get after it per these tips. Thanks.

  • @greybeard804
    @greybeard804 3 года назад

    I've snapped more than one crank by turning the engine over with an impact.
    I like that tool.

  • @peterzenner2020
    @peterzenner2020 3 года назад +2

    I'm a little late to these videos, but it's great that you're going through this engine one piece at a time. Very logical progression. Excellent learning tool ya got here!

  • @wildefox1478
    @wildefox1478 3 года назад +2

    Awesome video as always Steve, do the valves next, see if it has compression.

  • @johngallagher2313
    @johngallagher2313 3 года назад +5

    Valves and compression

  • @justanotherviewer52
    @justanotherviewer52 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Steve.
    Nice job on the clutch. So easy wehn you know what you are doing.
    Do the valve next.

  • @georgebaumann8225
    @georgebaumann8225 3 года назад +1

    Valve and compression gets my vote!

  • @darrellhebert1725
    @darrellhebert1725 3 года назад

    Steve, really enjoy your videos. You don’t wast time with the I love me segments many others insert in their video. Thank you sir.

  • @phil463
    @phil463 3 года назад +2

    Great vid. I have come across my share of repairs with those briggs starter clutches. And many of them were because someone told them to lube them and they used grease LOL Do the valves next, I think your audience will love it; especially in a world full of Honda clones. Kudos!

  • @billbkr32ify
    @billbkr32ify 3 года назад +4

    Flat punch and hammer works just as well. Be careful not to break off one of the ears.

    • @Jim-ie6uf
      @Jim-ie6uf 3 года назад +1

      That's how I do it, carefully

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 3 года назад

      I was just thinking that - mentioned in its own bar that I have a wood chipper that doesn't rewind on its own until it starts. maybe next time I have it out, I'll put this video to use.

  • @Ron-ds2ob
    @Ron-ds2ob 3 года назад +5

    Hey Steve, just for your personal knowledge, It took me 1 Bud light to watch this video. Let's get some spark in the next one, and we will see if it drags out to 2 Bud lights.

  • @aaronpowell4885
    @aaronpowell4885 3 года назад

    I'm ready for either! I've cleaned and/or replaced several sets of points and a couple of condensers on flathead Briggs but have never personally had the valves out of one yet. I say valves first!

  • @semco72057
    @semco72057 3 года назад

    I like what you did to solve the problem with the clutch and the removal of the rust. I would like to see you work on the piston next to make sure all is fine there.

  • @DragonflyAcres2022
    @DragonflyAcres2022 3 года назад +2

    Like always great video .I want to see compression and valves.Thank you for sharing

  • @BrianBeamers
    @BrianBeamers 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Steve!! I have alway put grease in the clutch. Not anymore thanks for another great tip!!

  • @michaelfarris2556
    @michaelfarris2556 3 года назад +1

    Following this one to the end.

  • @tomjonas7384
    @tomjonas7384 3 года назад +25

    I’d like to see the valves and check for compression

  • @TheChube25
    @TheChube25 3 года назад +3

    Steve,
    I have an idea for your video mini series. How about a rebuild of a Tecumseh OH160? These seem to be a forgotten engine. Not many in depth videos out there on them. Certainly none from professionals such as yourself. I know Tecumseh is out of business here in the states, parts are probably hard to come by. Just a thought. Thanks for the great videos!

    • @StevesSmallEngineSaloon
      @StevesSmallEngineSaloon  3 года назад +1

      Right on Chris! Thank You...

    • @joefudd
      @joefudd 3 года назад

      Ahh yes. Tecumseh engines. Always on the old Sears junky mowers. The governor (made out of plastic or pot metal) always goes out, then they throw the rod right out the side. When they run they always vibrate like hell because of poor balancing. They made good power though, had awesome compression. I'd always replace them with a good old Briggs.

    • @TheChube25
      @TheChube25 3 года назад

      @@joefudd
      The OH160 in my opinion was a better engine. The one I used as a 12 year old boy helping my father was an absolute beast. They were part of Tecumsehs XL series. Yes, it was mounted to a Sears tractor, but she was a work horse.

  • @daurbn
    @daurbn 3 года назад +1

    Learning as I go by watching your videos! Trying to get spark and taking it apart and putting it back together then fixing valve issues? Not sure as I'm learning from you! I would say valves then spark but I'm still learning 😌

  • @davidhettesheimer3685
    @davidhettesheimer3685 3 года назад +1

    Like to see you do the valves first. Thank you Steve.

  • @mickdog2
    @mickdog2 3 года назад +1

    either valves or points...........I've got 2 of those 5hp that I can't get to run, one is from 67......I'm enjoying this series.

  • @nickmecum4371
    @nickmecum4371 3 года назад +1

    Valves please, Steve you are the best!

  • @thomaswissmann9073
    @thomaswissmann9073 3 года назад +1

    Let’s see the valves get taken out , cleaned, and lapped in. In the meantime, you can take the starter cover back off because you’ve already done that part. This way you’ll be prepared for the next video taking the flywheel off with the flywheel removal tool, then get to the points and condenser. I also recommend maybe putting in people into and condenser again instead of converting it to electronic ignition. Many guys out there need an education on replacing the points and condenser. Old guys like me have been there done that the last 50 years, but it makes for a good video for the young bloods.

  • @hfraat25
    @hfraat25 3 года назад

    Will follow this series with interest had plenty of these in the past. I drilled a small 1/8 hole in the dust cover and spayed with wd40.. same job.

  • @BrucesShop
    @BrucesShop 3 года назад +1

    Hey you were just on Pattay's This is old school stuff bud.

  • @kkovler1
    @kkovler1 3 года назад +2

    hammer and wooden stick works well on clutch removal too.

    • @buddyg1408
      @buddyg1408 3 года назад

      Big pipe wrench work s also

  • @waynemark93
    @waynemark93 3 года назад +1

    "Balls of steel" 😳
    Hahahaha! Caught me unaware and I had a great laugh!
    BTW: Love your presentation and common sense approach to small engine repair. Do rhe valves next.

  • @mikespain8655
    @mikespain8655 3 года назад +2

    The little hole on ratcheting clutch is where I put a little light oil. Some have a felt pad inside for keeping the oil in.

  • @martinpreece7773
    @martinpreece7773 3 года назад +1

    I need the ignition fix as a reference for my 2hp vertical project.
    But the valves fix is useful too

  • @kingofthetrack
    @kingofthetrack 3 года назад +1

    Valves next Steve.......top work.

  • @ralphbrubaker1882
    @ralphbrubaker1882 3 года назад +1

    Nice job on all your educational videos Steve. Even a guy that knows-it-all can learn a thing or to. I like the Beer advice, i think that we would make a good team1

  • @oxyfee6486
    @oxyfee6486 3 года назад +2

    So glad I subbed to this channel,thanks from a fellow Canuck.

  • @davestewart9146
    @davestewart9146 3 года назад +1

    Go for the valves Steve 👍😁

  • @constructioncenter
    @constructioncenter 3 года назад +2

    Valves and compression would be awesome!

  • @don7406
    @don7406 3 года назад +2

    Wow, the toilet bowl cleaner did a nice job. I’m going to try that with some of my rusty junk. Thanks for sharing.

    • @StevesSmallEngineSaloon
      @StevesSmallEngineSaloon  3 года назад +3

      Any time!

    • @joefudd
      @joefudd 3 года назад

      That was a good way of cleaning them up. I'll try that the next time. Thanks, Steve!

  • @davereisinger9636
    @davereisinger9636 3 года назад +1

    Steve, thanks for taking the time to make these videos. I learned so much. It really doesn’t matter what you work on next. I’ll be watching all of it. Thanks again you do a great job communicating.

  • @tilmonhensley443
    @tilmonhensley443 3 года назад

    Like to see you work on them valves Steve. But what ever you do i'm sure I will learn something . Enjoy your videos, and thanks 4 the Wisdom, And Help. Peace from N.C.

  • @andrewwoodward6560
    @andrewwoodward6560 3 года назад +2

    This is fun ! Thanks Steve ! 👍

  • @thomaskapetantsis4951
    @thomaskapetantsis4951 3 месяца назад +1

    I would love how you check how you are going to check for spark?

  • @hankpoth9681
    @hankpoth9681 3 года назад +1

    I've got the same engine on my tiller. Last year I fixed the spack issue. Show me a good valve Job!

  • @rtkville
    @rtkville 3 года назад

    I wish I had seen this video 60 yrs ago when I had some of those old style B.S. engines. Good video and which ever you want to do next is fine with me. Thanks Steve!!!

  • @cpcoark
    @cpcoark 3 года назад +1

    Lets convert it to electronic ignition. Good video and series

  • @waynebaird3539
    @waynebaird3539 3 года назад

    Thanks Steve for all of your fine advice, tips and videos. I'm not small engine savvy, but your videos are so clear and concise, up-close and amazing. You show us how to , why to, and teach so much in an interesting manner. You're a natural teacher. I commend you and appreciate your honesty, comic attitude and ethics in all of your videos. So, Thank you. I have learned a lot, and if I need to learn further, I check out your videos to learn so much. God Bless you and your family. Again, thanks.

  • @doncook3584
    @doncook3584 3 года назад

    That engine has balls of steel. Too good

  • @Niterider73
    @Niterider73 3 года назад +1

    Steve I'm loving these videos! I would not be the least bit upset if you continue to do series like these. I always enjoy watching videos like this where they take an older piece of equipment and get it running again. I'm working on a '74 merry tiller with the 5 hp wisconsin engine myself, So it's really nice to see someone on RUclips that is kind of following along doing the same thing. Keep it up! Love the videos!

  • @Gary67242
    @Gary67242 3 года назад +1

    looking forward to seeing valve repair.....thumbs up !

  • @ViewerofKnowing2023
    @ViewerofKnowing2023 3 года назад

    Great content. Take care of the valves next. Explain why you replace the bent valve with the appropriate new one.

  • @robertporemba1016
    @robertporemba1016 3 года назад

    Steven and April I, hope all is well up north. I'm down in sunny Florida, The Season's ready to take off full swing. I'd like to see you jump right into the valves. The toilet bowl cleaner for rust, hell of an idea. I've been using other products. Love the knowledge. Have a good day Steve.

  • @jongraff6931
    @jongraff6931 3 года назад

    Hope you have enough Stella to get that Briggs running! All your videos are great!👍

  • @DirtRoadLanding
    @DirtRoadLanding 3 года назад +4

    Steve, did you ever fix Buckins Maculloch generator?

  • @davidconn3222
    @davidconn3222 3 года назад

    Hey Steve for the grand finale can you get Bob and Doug Mckenzie for a beer hunter special ? now that would be a beauty eh ? the rebuild is a really good idea, going to learn a lot and have fun along the way.

  • @SiCkDiAbLo
    @SiCkDiAbLo 6 дней назад +1

    Thanks for the tip, now I know what to do..Thanks, Subscribed!!!

  • @gillendk
    @gillendk 3 года назад +2

    I vote spark next! :) but either is grand :) nice one

  • @ebfromwyoming4118
    @ebfromwyoming4118 2 года назад +1

    Once again thank you Steve

  • @irwineve
    @irwineve 3 года назад +2

    More details on the mix to clean the clutch in the ultrasonic

  • @andybryce9194
    @andybryce9194 3 года назад +1

    Hey Steve,
    Love the videos, like everyone else! I love the fact that you are doing a longer series on an old motor front to back. My vote is to address the valve and compression issue before the spark. Although the spark is probably less costly to dig into, no compression would probably mean you won't proceed further.

  • @DicksSmallEngines
    @DicksSmallEngines 3 года назад +1

    Either or regarding next video Steve mate. Thoroughly enjoying this little mini series thus far..... good content . Short, concise & to the point. 👍🏻🔧

  • @henrymurawskibigdogrepair
    @henrymurawskibigdogrepair 3 года назад +3

    Great tip steve great video

  • @jeffferguson899
    @jeffferguson899 3 года назад +1

    I love this series . Its got a mustie1 vibe to it!

  • @rhodysweet
    @rhodysweet 3 года назад +2

    Loving this series Steve - thanks!

  • @jafinch78
    @jafinch78 2 года назад +1

    As always, excellent information. Appreciate as always. Least I can do is feed the comments with some comment chow. Thank you sir! Balls of steel.

  • @davidbarrett7767
    @davidbarrett7767 3 года назад +1

    Amazing how you can fix anything!

  • @themowerman
    @themowerman 3 года назад +4

    Wooo hoooo hello from the uk 🇬🇧. How’s it’s going me old mucker

  • @fixitorstripitGardenmachines
    @fixitorstripitGardenmachines 3 года назад +1

    What ever you put up i will watch, until the next one stay safe

  • @Lovinflyindrones2022
    @Lovinflyindrones2022 3 года назад +1

    Nice informative video. Thanks again!!! Valves next

  • @francislang5075
    @francislang5075 3 года назад +1

    great job steve

  • @Jfhelwig
    @Jfhelwig 3 года назад +1

    Could watch this all day