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Good stuff Steve. I'm 84 years old and they say you can't teach old dogs new tricks. WRONG! I've learned a lot from you over the past couple of years. Great channel.
@@michaelwarren2391 its also getting to know how things work and are put together. I think there are a lot of people from the last couple of generations that are going to have a few issues in just knowing one end of a tool to the other
Sir I literally just spent all day working on the exact same motor on a power rake and couldn't get spark..And yes i sanded the flywheel thinking that would do the trick LOL, came inside and your video came up to show me what to do...WOW you saved me from canceling a few jobs.
I wish once you would come across something you can't fix and that will make you mortal. Its like you have the hands of God, your videos are the best and your explaining on the processes 2nd to none.
As a kid I learned a lot of small engine stuff by just tinkering with my dad. We have an old rototiller exactly like this with a small briggs and no spark. I got it up and going by myself at the time but gave up because points were too much for me. Now that I'm servicing all my equipment for spring I'm glad I found this video! See if the oll tiller will fire up again!
Stevo, I thought I've seen everything, I'm a retired fire service mechanic. I work part time at a catholic abbey 600 acre farm mostly on lawn maintenance equipment as theirs not much farming going on now. The sisters complained their Kubota diesel zero turn wasn't cutting cleanly, checked the knives, they were upside down and just beating the crap out of the grass. Sometimes their are volunteers that think they help, just make more work for me. Sorry for the rant.
I had on old crapsman electric start mulching mower that I was only too happy to send off to the metal recycler. the batteries lasted about a year, it had been heavily abused, and was undersized for the lawn I was mowing with it. and yes, I did the thing steve says not to do - I got tired of replacing batteries, and started it with a cordless drill. (it got replaced with a commercial mower)
@Steve's Small Engine Salon ... I have to Thank you Steve! It turned out that corroded points on my Very Old & not working 1500psi pressure washer, just required a bit of sanding and it "Sparked right Away!" PS. I was working on it as I watched this video In my garage. LoL...
Hi Steve - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. You brought me back to 1976. I still use the moeer I bought then but for the first 17 years I had erratic starting despite much investigation, which included points checking/cleaning. I thought it was carb problems. Finally, replacement points solved the issue but the reason for the fault was intriguing. While the condenser looked perfect on the outside, when I cut it open I found slight corrosion, enough to cause the problem that plagued me for years.
The spark! When you pulled the cover of the ignition I thought, Oh, Boy! But, expert analysis backed by years of technical 'sperience' and a little sandpaper put this old engine back in the fight. 😃 I can hardly wait till the next installment of this mechanical saga. I'm thinking Guinness Draft for that lesson. BTW: I find the engineering on these small engines to be ingenious in their simplicity. If it weren't for you and Dony, most of us fans would never see how these small wonders operate.
Took my 70s briggs craftsman tiller apart. Mine didn't have points,cleaned it up anyway and had to modify the aftermarket coil. Wasn't getting close enough to flywheel. Either way its running now and i still learned something and added a new tool to the collection. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Well, I'm in a tough spot. I just finished the last video. I watched every single video you have made and now I have to wait. You're killing me man! What am I going to do now? I guess I'll have to go fire up my own equipment. Thanks for all the awesome videos. You are a great teacher. Brewmaster out! 🍺
Steve, reminds me of my 1955 Chev 6 cylinder (my first car) and the points in the distributor! Thanks for the return to yesteryear.. Keep your videos coming!
I'm very happy to see you fixed the points. I hate when people change them over to electronic ignition. You are much better off with a point ignition system. I have been working on these things for around 40 years and I've never seen a set of points that rusted. I'm amazed you got them to work. Good job!
I have a 73 and 74 ST16s,Sears,Steve I love this channel.I would hit that like a thousand times if I could,you make me proud to be Canadian.I will make sure to help the next person the way you helped me.Thanks
I got a free lawn mower once that was being thrown away. Trying to fix it , found it had no spark. Believe it or not it had gunk on the flywheel. Cleaned it off and mower worked for many years. Old toro mower with the Briggs engine. Thanks Steve, really like your videos!!
Cleaning the emulsion tube was always an excellent way to learn patience. I've enjoyed every minute of this series. Better knowledge = better continent. Keep it going.
Just took my late uncle's tiller out of the brush to work on it. 1985 Coast to Coast (MTD), and hasnt run in at least a decade. Same engine, but in way better shape than Steves! Gives me lots of hope.
Wow I didn’t realize that it was a Rototiller. I got one in my old shed, back in the corner . It looks like it’s in halfway nice shape. What a great project oh my God. Steve, you’re the man. Inspiring.
Man, when I saw those points I said "That baby is toast!" I was, of course, wrong again. That was such a good, clear explanation! Your videos are like the Snickers commercial: "Snickers ALWAYS satisfies!" Steve, you are da man!
As rusty and crusty as that condenser was I'm surprisede you got any spark! Enjoying this series of videos just like all your outher ones. Still learning after 74 years...... Thanks!!
First, I really appreciate your insight of the most common issues developed by each type of equipment and the information for the best cost efficient repair if the equipment is in working condition. I’m aware that of the differences of the configurations between the engine you’re currently working on and the Kohler k241 series that I’m tinkering around with. I started off with an allrite spark, Because of the spark being incident. I cleaned the points set the gap to .02”, along with adjusted the valve tappet clearance cold intake .006” exhaust .017”, also cleaned the wire connection of the condenser and the grounding point, had irregular spark strength then spark plug replaced with new gaped at .025” But now at the moment there’s no spark. I yet have taken the cover and flywheel off. I’m assuming that is where the ignition coil is located from dealership. I have seen a few occasions where the k241 was not using a ignition coil but was operating from a magneto. My question to you is, Why would some k241 use a magneto while majority of the k241 applications are using an ignition coil? (Regarding both using an electric starter) I’ve done a few hours of research ever sense I acquired this Lincoln weldanpower 150, I can’t help but notice some of the differences between engines and wonder why, usually I’m able to answer my own questions. This time I’m stumped.
Man am I glad I found this video THANK YOU! I am wrestling with the same engine that was an old 2 inch sears water pump ! My son and I just started diving into it and realized there is no spark so we are going to try your instructions this week thank you thank you thank you awesome detailed video!
This couldn't have come at a better time. I have an old tiller with the same engine, same problems. I've rebuilt many a Briggs in my youth, but still managed to learn from you. Now motivated to go and get mine running again.
Steve- a netter way to loosen a flywheel is to put some pressure against it from the back (someone prying lightly OR a couple of wedges- not a lot needed!) and then hit the crank end with a "chattergun" (air chisel with a pointed driver), just like removing a steering wheel. It will jump right off!
Nice video Steve! It's remarkable just how well the older engines were built. I still have some of my Dad's old garden machines from the 50's. I was taught at a young age how to change plugs, points and condenser and such. Keep the oil changed and they just keep on running!
Wow! Awesome! I have a Troy Pony Rototiller, Don't remember how old, decades. Just haven't had the heart to get rid of it. Maybe now that I have found your channel, I can attempt fixing it my self.
I'm not a mechanic and have an office job, but I find your videos entertaining and informative/motivating that I want to start working on my own equipment. Thanks.
Yes, Steve, we are enjoying this video series. I appreciate the idea of rehabilitating an old piece of equipment and envy your talent and skill. As far as I’m concerned, you can do as many videos on this subject as you please.
Yes this is good. I’m working on the same engine on an edger. I had spark but not now. I will take the flywheel off tomorrow but now I’m getting a Sierra Nevada Torpedo and watching another one of your exciting videos, the carb one.
Steve getting a spark from those old points was miraculous. With all your good luck I will be hopeful that the tine seals don't leak or the tine shaft is not worn unless it is a chain drive. Please keep track of how long you have to soak the carburetor in ATF/acetone or how long you have to put it in ultrasound. I would have probably been chicken and installed a electronic conversion for the points but that would have been extra money not needed with your current spark.
You are a great and considerate man I have two old rotor tillers which I am about to look at 1970 and 1973 both Canadian tire models. You rival a six pack of Bud lite and a deluxe pizza during playoffs.
Enjoying this series very much. My dad actually had that garden tiller when I was growing up. Very interesting to watch and can't wait to see it running!!
This video series is very well done and just in time. I have an old Briggs attached to a water pump that just came into the shop. I don't have any experience with points and condensers so this was helpful. Cheers!
Certified Aircraft Mechanic> Steve rust is resistance in a magnetic circuit as a resistor in an electrical circuit. The rust will not usually prevent a spark, as you pointed out, but it will provided a stronger, higher voltage without the rust. So it is worth removing it at least until some clean metal shows through. Best to you.
@@StevesSmallEngineSaloon The engine will probably not give me much trouble to get running again. I've been searching the Web for bearings and tires... it was once a great self - propelled reel mower... now it is tireless - in the *wrong* way - LOL Bearings I can probably eventually find. Thanks, Steve! Hoisting a Muskoka "Mad Tom" IPA in your honour!
Also - forgot to mention that I originally found this thing at a scrap metal drive! Dropped off an old washing machine (broken) and picked up this beautiful old (seized engine) mower! Took little effort to get her running again, until the tires and bearings gave out. That was back in 2001!!
Another good one! Everyone should have a torque wrench. I torque my wheels on my Jeep, my sparkplugs, brakes, and even the oil drain plug If I can find the setting, I'll torque it. $20 at Harbor Freight in the US. I would guess the same in Canada at Princess Auto.
@@patrickflohe7427 I understand what you're saying. However, I have 2 expensive one's and one HF. It's easy enough to verify the accuracy of a torque wrench. I don't use the HF as often as my NAPA 1/2" or my smaller one in in./lbs, but when I check it, it's still hanging in there.
Sanding a magnet does not make the magnetism change, people simply sand the magnet and around the flywheel so you keep your clearance. In the Briggs test it even tells you this that sanding the magnet does not change spark its just to make sure you keep the clearance you need. Great video Steve love your videos everytime
I will try to get my Dads old Briggs and Stratton engined concrete mixer to work this summer. It’s not been used since the early 1980’s. You’ve inspired me to give it a go Steve. Best wishes from an Irish subscriber ☘️🍺
Great video Steve! You have inspired me to take another look at my chipper/shredder engine that spins on the fly wheel end without turning the blade end of the crank. Bought a clutch remover tool thanks to your link so now I have a chance! Hopeful it is just a sheared key.
I’ve got the exact same tiller all tore down. Looking forward to finally working on it again after watching this. I did the upgrade from points and hope it makes a difference. Great videos! You would be an awesome shop teacher.
Takes me back to summers working with my Dad who worked in a lawnmower shop. One of my jobs was tearing down old engines and putting the good parts in bins out back so they could be reused, then for the kids with mini bikes and go carts we would sell them engines that ran that I would build out of the used parts.
Very Good Steve this is a great video just like all the other videos you've given us. However , I do wish you / these videos were available back in the 60's and 70's when I could have really used them. I'm not complaining better late then never. Thank you so much!
Brilliantly simple videos! I've just removed the flywheel from a Briggs and Stratton 'Magnatron' using exactly the technique you've shown here and boom...... NO POINTS behind the flywheel. I mean no point, they've not been removed there is no fitting or anything there. What magic is this? How come this one has no points? 👍🏼
You got a storebougth tool to get the cluthc of ... i had to weld mine out of some old bits and pices ey =) love your videos kep them comming , its awsome to learn from an 39 year old thinker like you .... im 29 myself (read 40 ) and have repaired and drived trucks all my life but i had an episode with epilepsy in 2012 so they wont have me on a big rig garage anymore . Luckily ther are small engines that i can repair so i got a job at a dealer that sells John deere tractors and sthil ect so your videos make my day every time. Mutch love and respect from Norway ey .... =D Have a awesome summer ahead m8
I absolutely love the series that you were doing on this. I'm getting to that age where I don't like anything new, but I love seeing old things restored! 👍
Hey man thank you so much for posting this just got a 30 dollar go kart and this video helped me get it spark I tried everything but checking the points I watched this and look at that runs like new.
I've used folded sandpaper on points many times, usually 400 grit. Not as good as new points, but generally an improvement. I always use a plain business card (moistened with acetone if possible) to clean the residual grit and any oil off the points after sanding. It's been my experience that with battery/coil systems, there is transfer of metal from one point to the other, resulting in a mountain on one side and a crater in the other. You will discover that when the mountain peak tears the sandpaper or business card. I don't know whether this is the same with magnetos, but removing that peak may require a point file. If you try removing it with sandpaper, don't fold it over so you sand only the mountain side until they're flat again. Know that after the EMP from that nuclear blast takes out all solid-state ignition systems, those old points will still be working fine. 😁
Yes sir, this is awesome how you are breaking this down into sections and explaining and showing it step by step! Great series and learning a lot! Thanks!
Steve you already know my comments and thoughts about your videos and your series that you are doing. I honestly think I am one of your biggest fans. Your videos are amazing, every single one of them. I don’t even own chainsaws, or air compressors but I still watch the videos because I love the way that you explain things and if I needed up getting one of these things then I will have some knowledge on how to fix what may be wrong with it just from watching your videos. Like always there isn’t enough videos for me lol, but I know believe it or not there is life outside of you tube lol. Another great video Steve and I can’t wait to watch the next one in the series. Until then have a wonderful day
Wow!!!! I cant believe that capacitor/condenser is still any good!!!!!! I thought for sure you were going to have to replace it!!!! And boy did I cringe when you hit them points with the sand paper!!!! LOL..... but hell... It works!!!!! Great video Steve!! Cheers!
OMG, one smack!! If I didn't see it with my own eyes. (I've always used a puller for everything.) Not even penetrating fluid. Love this super detailed, step series. Hate waiting for each video. If necessary, could you still get parts?
I had to re-glue all six magnets recently when removing the flywheel. Used a 3 pound hammer, block of wood, and slight pressure behind flywheel with prybar.
I have this same engine on an old tiller. No spark. I have been wondering what to do as this I so different than anything I’ve worked on but I’m sure that’s the fix! Thank you so much!
I am watching this video a bit late. Kokanee , nice touch. Those points were the worst I have seen. I love the fact they worked. Too cool. I love these old 5 HP's. Thanks for the great video Steve.
I’m enjoying this series Steve! I have a few of these old Briggs laying around that I’d like to get running and I appreciate all these little tips you share!
Great Videos and great advice. I am working on a 1972 Kemp wood chipper/shredder about the same 5hp briggs motor and was stumped about the spark it had it when I first started on it. Then i had the output shaft cover off and the governor gear fell off and I wasn't sure about the position of it so I just putter all back together. Then no spark. So off I go to see bout the points.
Love the short series. I have an old Sears chipper that I need to fix. I am considering replacing the vintage engine on it but I want to see what condition it's in first. A chipper like this wouldn't be used that much so it may just need some TLC. It looks like it's been stored in a garage all it's life, no rust. It uses a vertical shaft motor.I will compression test it first. It looks like it is using a lawn mower engine. Not sure on the size. The chipper blade looks like a really heavy duty lawn mower blade cut down.
Nicely Done. My motor they stripped out the 1/4 20 bolts then tapped them out to a 5/16 and then stripped those and ran it like that all season. Wore the bolt holes out so bad that there is no metal left to work with. i filled to bolt holes up with JB Weld and let it set all winter , now going o tap them back to 1/4 20 hoping they will torque ok.
Brilliant Steve, thanks so much, great video as ever 👍👌👏. I haven’t seen a set of points in decades, all that fooling around with machinery, bikes and cars, you SO take me back, great job 😁
I like watching you work on that engine completing one step at a time until you can crank it properly. I don't have a snowblower, but do have a mower I would like to get started as it has been sitting for a long time.
Taryl has a video on getting on old roto tiller running as well. We giddy fan boys of both of your channels want to see a collaberation! Please make it so! Sure, you Canadians talk funny, and yes, we Americans are direct, but there MUST be peace between us.
Nice video. I'm surprised you got good spark with only filing the points. I work on antique Italian scooters, and condensers always go south, and need replacing. That rusted mess in there would make the condenser replacement a huge challenge.
Steve I actually had sanding the coil and the flywheel bring back the spark on a mower back in the early 80s on a vertical shaft mower. That was literally the only thing that I did. I never even took the flywheel off. This is also the only thing that I did to my 16.5 horse motor that I bought for my log splitter. The log splitter motor was only 2 or 3 years old when I did this. After I was done I sprayed the flywheel down with WD40 and haven't had any trouble since. Ps Every year I get my old Troy Built tiller out I need to sand the points. Also I was always told to slide a piece of white paper between the points after sanding them to remove any practicals left behind.
Great series, Steve! Reminds me of Bryan Gray on RUclips who restores McCulloch saws that are sometimes in horrendous disrepair. He goes through these same steps.
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Good stuff Steve. I'm 84 years old and they say you can't teach old dogs new tricks. WRONG! I've learned a lot from you over the past couple of years.
Great channel.
Dave I’m so tickled to learn you enjoy this. I’m 70 and hope to follow your lead. Means I have many more years to drive my wife batty😎
Thank You...
I enjoy spending the time to refurbish a piece of equipment instead of throwing it out.
Yes Carl, I’m a cheap @$$ too!
Me too!
It's not being cheap, it's being frugal -- and smart. 😊
@@michaelwarren2391 its also getting to know how things work and are put together. I think there are a lot of people from the last couple of generations that are going to have a few issues in just knowing one end of a tool to the other
@@christopherelworthy9640 I think you're right.
Don't we all wish Steve was our premier!
Wish alberta knew as much as steve.
THANK you steve for EVERYTHING.
I am THOROUGHLY ENJOYING this series! Keep em coming Steve!
Thanks, will do!
Sir I literally just spent all day working on the exact same motor on a power rake and couldn't get spark..And yes i sanded the flywheel thinking that would do the trick LOL, came inside and your video came up to show me what to do...WOW you saved me from canceling a few jobs.
Great 👍
I wish once you would come across something you can't fix and that will make you mortal. Its like you have the hands of God, your videos are the best and your explaining on the processes 2nd to none.
WOW! Thank You...
He just doesn't show those. 😆
As a kid I learned a lot of small engine stuff by just tinkering with my dad. We have an old rototiller exactly like this with a small briggs and no spark. I got it up and going by myself at the time but gave up because points were too much for me. Now that I'm servicing all my equipment for spring I'm glad I found this video! See if the oll tiller will fire up again!
Right on
Stevo, I thought I've seen everything, I'm a retired fire service mechanic. I work part time at a catholic abbey 600 acre farm mostly on lawn maintenance equipment as theirs not much farming going on now. The sisters complained their Kubota diesel zero turn wasn't cutting cleanly, checked the knives, they were upside down and just beating the crap out of the grass. Sometimes their are volunteers that think they help, just make more work for me. Sorry for the rant.
This series is motivating me to restore my old lawn mower rather then just taking it to the recycling (landfill).
Right on
I had on old crapsman electric start mulching mower that I was only too happy to send off to the metal recycler. the batteries lasted about a year, it had been heavily abused, and was undersized for the lawn I was mowing with it. and yes, I did the thing steve says not to do - I got tired of replacing batteries, and started it with a cordless drill. (it got replaced with a commercial mower)
Our local "Tune-up" is a plug, air filter, and oil for just $59.95. Sharpen blade + $8. I get many free mowers each spring. Yea! Me
@Steve's Small Engine Salon ...
I have to Thank you Steve! It turned out that corroded points on my Very Old & not working 1500psi pressure washer, just required a bit of sanding and it "Sparked right Away!"
PS. I was working on it as I watched this video In my garage. LoL...
Right on
I bought two old beat up rototiller engines to learn how to repair small engines, and these videos are perfect.
Right on
This is a great series of videos. How to solve common problems in a practical and methodical way. I hope your good luck continues!
Thank you!
Hi Steve - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. You brought me back to 1976. I still use the moeer I bought then but for the first 17 years I had erratic starting despite much investigation, which included points checking/cleaning. I thought it was carb problems. Finally, replacement points solved the issue but the reason for the fault was intriguing. While the condenser looked perfect on the outside, when I cut it open I found slight corrosion, enough to cause the problem that plagued me for years.
The spark!
When you pulled the cover of the ignition I thought, Oh, Boy!
But, expert analysis backed by years of technical 'sperience' and a little sandpaper put this old engine back in the fight. 😃
I can hardly wait till the next installment of this mechanical saga. I'm thinking Guinness Draft for that lesson.
BTW: I find the engineering on these small engines to be ingenious in their simplicity. If it weren't for you and Dony, most of us fans would never see how these small wonders operate.
Right on Wayne! Thank You...
Took my 70s briggs craftsman tiller apart. Mine didn't have points,cleaned it up anyway and had to modify the aftermarket coil. Wasn't getting close enough to flywheel. Either way its running now and i still learned something and added a new tool to the collection. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Nice work!
Well, I'm in a tough spot. I just finished the last video. I watched every single video you have made and now I have to wait. You're killing me man! What am I going to do now? I guess I'll have to go fire up my own equipment. Thanks for all the awesome videos. You are a great teacher. Brewmaster out! 🍺
Steve, reminds me of my 1955 Chev 6 cylinder (my first car) and the points in the distributor! Thanks for the return to yesteryear.. Keep your videos coming!
You are welcome!
I'm very happy to see you fixed the points. I hate when people change them over to electronic ignition. You are much better off with a point ignition system. I have been working on these things for around 40 years and I've never seen a set of points that rusted. I'm amazed you got them to work. Good job!
I have a 73 and 74 ST16s,Sears,Steve I love this channel.I would hit that like a thousand times if I could,you make me proud to be Canadian.I will make sure to help the next person the way you helped me.Thanks
Wow, thanks!
I got a free lawn mower once that was being thrown away. Trying to fix it , found it had no spark. Believe it or not it had gunk on the flywheel. Cleaned it off and mower worked for many years. Old toro mower with the Briggs engine. Thanks Steve, really like your videos!!
Steve, this video series is awsome! I have never seen a rustier set of points before work after only sanding them. Keep up the good stuff!
Thanks, will do!
It's amazing on how the most simple fixes work where so many people over look and over think their repairs. Keep up with the awesome content 🙂🙂
Thanks, will do!
Cleaning the emulsion tube was always an excellent way to learn patience. I've enjoyed every minute of this series. Better knowledge = better continent. Keep it going.
Thank You...
Just took my late uncle's tiller out of the brush to work on it. 1985 Coast to Coast (MTD), and hasnt run in at least a decade. Same engine, but in way better shape than Steves! Gives me lots of hope.
Wow I didn’t realize that it was a Rototiller. I got one in my old shed, back in the corner . It looks like it’s in halfway nice shape. What a great project oh my God. Steve, you’re the man. Inspiring.
Looks like those points did some underwater work.
Agreed!
Man, when I saw those points I said "That baby is toast!" I was, of course, wrong again. That was such a good, clear explanation! Your videos are like the Snickers commercial: "Snickers ALWAYS satisfies!" Steve, you are da man!
WOW! Thank You...
As rusty and crusty as that condenser was I'm surprisede you got any spark! Enjoying this series of videos just like all your outher ones. Still learning after 74 years...... Thanks!!
Glad you like them!
First, I really appreciate your insight of the most common issues developed by each type of equipment and the information for the best cost efficient repair if the equipment is in working condition. I’m aware that of the differences of the configurations between the engine you’re currently working on and the Kohler k241 series that I’m tinkering around with. I started off with an allrite spark, Because of the spark being incident. I cleaned the points set the gap to .02”, along with adjusted the valve tappet clearance cold intake .006” exhaust .017”, also cleaned the wire connection of the condenser and the grounding point, had irregular spark strength then spark plug replaced with new gaped at .025” But now at the moment there’s no spark. I yet have taken the cover and flywheel off. I’m assuming that is where the ignition coil is located from dealership. I have seen a few occasions where the k241 was not using a ignition coil but was operating from a magneto. My question to you is, Why would some k241 use a magneto while majority of the k241 applications are using an ignition coil? (Regarding both using an electric starter) I’ve done a few hours of research ever sense I acquired this Lincoln weldanpower 150, I can’t help but notice some of the differences between engines and wonder why, usually I’m able to answer my own questions. This time I’m stumped.
I am enjoying this series a lot. I wish I felt more comfortable working on small engines.
You can do it!
Man am I glad I found this video THANK YOU! I am wrestling with the same engine that was an old 2 inch sears water pump ! My son and I just started diving into it and realized there is no spark so we are going to try your instructions this week thank you thank you thank you awesome detailed video!
You're Welcome...
What's the gap supposed to be between the magnetic flywheel and the magneto piece 🤔 ?
I love this series. Well done Steve!!
Thank You...
This couldn't have come at a better time. I have an old tiller with the same engine, same problems. I've rebuilt many a Briggs in my youth, but still managed to learn from you. Now motivated to go and get mine running again.
Great to hear!
Steve- a netter way to loosen a flywheel is to put some pressure against it from the back (someone prying lightly OR a couple of wedges- not a lot needed!) and then hit the crank end with a "chattergun" (air chisel with a pointed driver), just like removing a steering wheel. It will jump right off!
I am loving this series! Takes me back to small engine shop class 9th grade. 1976! I probably worked on that model engine!
Cool!
Nice video Steve! It's remarkable just how well the older engines were built. I still have some of my Dad's old garden machines from the 50's. I was taught at a young age how to change plugs, points and condenser and such. Keep the oil changed and they just keep on running!
Very cool!
Love this series. Love the way you take 1 thing at a time and explain how to fix it.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Glad you enjoy it!
@@StevesSmallEngineSaloon have you done a video on why and how to fix a surging lawnmower engine. Ive looked through your videos but didnt see one.
I really appreciate your step by step videos for a newbie like me . I am willing to learn from watching and doing my own repairs. Thank you
Glad to help
Wow! Awesome! I have a Troy Pony Rototiller, Don't remember how old, decades. Just haven't had the heart to get rid of it. Maybe now that I have found your channel, I can attempt fixing it my self.
Right on
Steve just want to thank you for your video on the electric ignition replacement.... I had it on backwards and wasn't gapped right.....Thank you
You're Welcome...
Good series. I enjoy working on and saving the vintage machines that hasn't ran in years. You are doing a great job 👍
Thanks 👍
I'm not a mechanic and have an office job, but I find your videos entertaining and informative/motivating that I want to start working on my own equipment. Thanks.
Glad to hear it!
Yes, Steve, we are enjoying this video series. I appreciate the idea of rehabilitating an old piece of equipment and envy your talent and skill. As far as I’m concerned, you can do as many videos on this subject as you please.
Cool, thanks
Spark testing is key to any none start engine. I love your videos on how to do these repairs, thanks a million Steve I learn so much from your ways.
Very welcome
Yes this is good. I’m working on the same engine on an edger.
I had spark but not now. I will take the flywheel off tomorrow but now I’m getting a Sierra Nevada Torpedo and watching another one of your exciting videos, the carb one.
Good luck!
Steve getting a spark from those old points was miraculous. With all your good luck I will be hopeful that the tine seals don't leak or the tine shaft is not worn unless it is a chain drive. Please keep track of how long you have to soak the carburetor in ATF/acetone or how long you have to put it in ultrasound. I would have probably been chicken and installed a electronic conversion for the points but that would have been extra money not needed with your current spark.
Right on
@Steve's Small Engine Saloon. Thanks Steve for making this video series. Learning lots with each one.
Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
You're Welcome...and Thank You...
Outstanding Steve
I really enjoy working on the small engines. Your knowledge, program, and the way you present it are clear and precise.
Thank You !!
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You are a great and considerate man I have two old rotor tillers which I am about to look at 1970 and 1973 both Canadian tire models. You rival a six pack of Bud lite and a deluxe pizza during playoffs.
Enjoying this series very much. My dad actually had that garden tiller when I was growing up. Very interesting to watch and can't wait to see it running!!
Very cool!
This video series is very well done and just in time. I have an old Briggs attached to a water pump that just came into the shop. I don't have any experience with points and condensers so this was helpful. Cheers!
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Great to hear!
Definitely fun stuff. I was amazed that that rusty mess actually produce a spark. Totally amazed.
Me too!
I enjoy seeing you bring these engines back to life!
Thank You...
I greatly enjoyed your enthusiasm. I’m excited watching your excitement. Thanks Steve. Ready for the next episode.
Glad to hear it!
Certified Aircraft Mechanic> Steve rust is resistance in a magnetic circuit as a resistor in an electrical circuit. The rust will not usually prevent a spark, as you pointed out, but it will provided a stronger, higher voltage without the rust. So it is worth removing it at least until some clean metal shows through. Best to you.
Thanks, Steve! Inspiration for me to get my old Yardworks reel mower going again! Hasn't run in at least fifteen years, but it's on my "to do" list!!
Go for it!
@@StevesSmallEngineSaloon The engine will probably not give me much trouble to get running again. I've been searching the Web for bearings and tires... it was once a great self - propelled reel mower... now it is tireless - in the *wrong* way - LOL Bearings I can probably eventually find. Thanks, Steve! Hoisting a Muskoka "Mad Tom" IPA in your honour!
Also - forgot to mention that I originally found this thing at a scrap metal drive! Dropped off an old washing machine (broken) and picked up this beautiful old (seized engine) mower! Took little effort to get her running again, until the tires and bearings gave out. That was back in 2001!!
Being a car guy, i would have lost money that the condenser was good on that. Great info
Thank You...
Another good one! Everyone should have a torque wrench. I torque my wheels on my Jeep, my sparkplugs, brakes, and even the oil drain plug If I can find the setting, I'll torque it. $20 at Harbor Freight in the US. I would guess the same in Canada at Princess Auto.
I wouldn’t be using a cheap torque wrench, but hey....
@@patrickflohe7427 I understand what you're saying. However, I have 2 expensive one's and one HF. It's easy enough to verify the accuracy of a torque wrench. I don't use the HF as often as my NAPA 1/2" or my smaller one in in./lbs, but when I check it, it's still hanging in there.
Sanding a magnet does not make the magnetism change, people simply sand the magnet and around the flywheel so you keep your clearance. In the Briggs test it even tells you this that sanding the magnet does not change spark its just to make sure you keep the clearance you need. Great video Steve love your videos everytime
Right on
I will try to get my Dads old Briggs and Stratton engined concrete mixer to work this summer. It’s not been used since the early 1980’s. You’ve inspired me to give it a go Steve. Best wishes from an Irish subscriber ☘️🍺
Good luck!
How did it go?
Great video Steve! You have inspired me to take another look at my chipper/shredder engine that spins on the fly wheel end without turning the blade end of the crank. Bought a clutch remover tool thanks to your link so now I have a chance! Hopeful it is just a sheared key.
Go for it!
I’ve got the exact same tiller all tore down. Looking forward to finally working on it again after watching this. I did the upgrade from points and hope it makes a difference. Great videos! You would be an awesome shop teacher.
Thank You...
Takes me back to summers working with my Dad who worked in a lawnmower shop. One of my jobs was tearing down old engines and putting the good parts in bins out back so they could be reused, then for the kids with mini bikes and go carts we would sell them engines that ran that I would build out of the used parts.
Very Good Steve this is a great video just like all the other videos you've given us. However , I do wish you / these videos were available back in the 60's and 70's when I could have really used them. I'm not complaining better late then never. Thank you so much!
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Brilliantly simple videos! I've just removed the flywheel from a Briggs and Stratton 'Magnatron' using exactly the technique you've shown here and boom...... NO POINTS behind the flywheel. I mean no point, they've not been removed there is no fitting or anything there. What magic is this? How come this one has no points? 👍🏼
Love this series Steve, keep it going. Mucking with old engines is a hobby of mine.
Thanks, will do!
Too much rust, for old sparky Steve!!! I love your minimalist approach, to troubleshooting that old gem. I would've brightened up everything :)
You got a storebougth tool to get the cluthc of ... i had to weld mine out of some old bits and pices ey =) love your videos kep them comming , its awsome to learn from an 39 year old thinker like you .... im 29 myself (read 40 ) and have repaired and drived trucks all my life but i had an episode with epilepsy in 2012 so they wont have me on a big rig garage anymore . Luckily ther are small engines that i can repair so i got a job at a dealer that sells John deere tractors and sthil ect so your videos make my day every time. Mutch love and respect from Norway ey .... =D Have a awesome summer ahead m8
Right on
Steve, you are the spark of life!!!!
Thank You...
I absolutely love the series that you were doing on this. I'm getting to that age where I don't like anything new, but I love seeing old things restored! 👍
I'm so glad!
Hey man thank you so much for posting this just got a 30 dollar go kart and this video helped me get it spark I tried everything but checking the points I watched this and look at that runs like new.
Right on! Glad it helped!
I've used folded sandpaper on points many times, usually 400 grit. Not as good as new points, but generally an improvement. I always use a plain business card (moistened with acetone if possible) to clean the residual grit and any oil off the points after sanding. It's been my experience that with battery/coil systems, there is transfer of metal from one point to the other, resulting in a mountain on one side and a crater in the other. You will discover that when the mountain peak tears the sandpaper or business card. I don't know whether this is the same with magnetos, but removing that peak may require a point file. If you try removing it with sandpaper, don't fold it over so you sand only the mountain side until they're flat again. Know that after the EMP from that nuclear blast takes out all solid-state ignition systems, those old points will still be working fine. 😁
Yes sir, this is awesome how you are breaking this down into sections and explaining and showing it step by step! Great series and learning a lot! Thanks!
Much appreciated!
Steve you already know my comments and thoughts about your videos and your series that you are doing. I honestly think I am one of your biggest fans. Your videos are amazing, every single one of them. I don’t even own chainsaws, or air compressors but I still watch the videos because I love the way that you explain things and if I needed up getting one of these things then I will have some knowledge on how to fix what may be wrong with it just from watching your videos. Like always there isn’t enough videos for me lol, but I know believe it or not there is life outside of you tube lol. Another great video Steve and I can’t wait to watch the next one in the series. Until then have a wonderful day
WOW! Thanks Dave...
I like you emphasize minimizing change. One thing at a time is critical while troubleshooting.
Right on
Wow!!!! I cant believe that capacitor/condenser is still any good!!!!!! I thought for sure you were going to have to replace it!!!! And boy did I cringe when you hit them points with the sand paper!!!! LOL..... but hell... It works!!!!! Great video Steve!! Cheers!
OMG, one smack!! If I didn't see it with my own eyes. (I've always used a puller for everything.) Not even penetrating fluid. Love this super detailed, step series. Hate waiting for each video. If necessary, could you still get parts?
I had to re-glue all six magnets recently when removing the flywheel. Used a 3 pound hammer, block of wood, and slight pressure behind flywheel with prybar.
I have this same engine on an old tiller. No spark. I have been wondering what to do as this I so different than anything I’ve worked on but I’m sure that’s the fix! Thank you so much!
Glad I could help
I am watching this video a bit late. Kokanee , nice touch. Those points were the worst I have seen. I love the fact they worked. Too cool. I love these old 5 HP's. Thanks for the great video Steve.
I’m enjoying this series Steve! I have a few of these old Briggs laying around that I’d like to get running and I appreciate all these little tips you share!
More to come!
Great Videos and great advice. I am working on a 1972 Kemp wood chipper/shredder about the same 5hp briggs motor and was stumped about the spark it had it when I first started on it. Then i had the output shaft cover off and the governor gear fell off and I wasn't sure about the position of it so I just putter all back together. Then no spark. So off I go to see bout the points.
I have a front line tiller just like the one you're working on (only in much better shape, it runs). Can't wait to see the next video!
Cool, thanks
This is really helpful. I have a 1990 Craftsman Tiller with no spark, so we will check this out. I'm sure different, but probably not that different.
Love the short series. I have an old Sears chipper that I need to fix. I am considering replacing the vintage engine on it but I want to see what condition it's in first. A chipper like this wouldn't be used that much so it may just need some TLC. It looks like it's been stored in a garage all it's life, no rust. It uses a vertical shaft motor.I will compression test it first. It looks like it is using a lawn mower engine. Not sure on the size. The chipper blade looks like a really heavy duty lawn mower blade cut down.
Steve man, I love this series. It's neat to see the restoration of a small engine that's not so modern👍
Keep it up
Thanks, will do!
Nicely Done. My motor they stripped out the 1/4 20 bolts then tapped them out to a 5/16 and then stripped those and ran it like that all season. Wore the bolt holes out so bad that there is no metal left to work with. i filled to bolt holes up with JB Weld and let it set all winter , now going o tap them back to 1/4 20 hoping they will torque ok.
Good luck!
Excellent video. Didn't realize how easy the conversion would be. Thanks Steve 😁
Glad to help
Brilliant Steve, thanks so much, great video as ever 👍👌👏.
I haven’t seen a set of points in decades, all that fooling around with machinery, bikes and cars, you SO take me back, great job 😁
Glad you enjoyed it
I’m enjoying this so much, I wish my dad was here he would love this series.
Thank You...
I like watching you work on that engine completing one step at a time until you can crank it properly. I don't have a snowblower, but do have a mower I would like to get started as it has been sitting for a long time.
Taryl has a video on getting on old roto tiller running as well. We giddy fan boys of both of your channels want to see a collaberation! Please make it so! Sure, you Canadians talk funny, and yes, we Americans are direct, but there MUST be peace between us.
I was on his show already. Here's the link. Right about the 3 minute mark!
ruclips.net/video/4u2FflUK-UE/видео.html
Nice video. I'm surprised you got good spark with only filing the points. I work on antique Italian scooters, and condensers always go south, and need replacing. That rusted mess in there would make the condenser replacement a huge challenge.
Thanks for sharing
Steve I actually had sanding the coil and the flywheel bring back the spark on a mower back in the early 80s on a vertical shaft mower. That was literally the only thing that I did. I never even took the flywheel off. This is also the only thing that I did to my 16.5 horse motor that I bought for my log splitter. The log splitter motor was only 2 or 3 years old when I did this. After I was done I sprayed the flywheel down with WD40 and haven't had any trouble since.
Ps Every year I get my old Troy Built tiller out I need to sand the points. Also I was always told to slide a piece of white paper between the points after sanding them to remove any practicals left behind.
I am impressed that you got that set of points with that much corrosion sparking.
Me too!
I would like to see full restoration it’s great viewing 👌 nice one Steve from Scotland 🏴
Haha! Never doubted ya for a minute Steve👍good video and good beer!🇨🇦
Thanks 👍
Love it Steve working on a Briggs and scrap iron Troy built tiller with similar issues thanks!
Good luck!
Steve, I believe Briggs makes a replacement solid state ignition that will bolt on and replace the points and condenser, correct me if I'm wrong.
You are correct! That is plan B....
Yep. I bought one of those Kits for a old chainsaw. Been using it for 10 years. Still putting out good spark.
Great series, Steve! Reminds me of Bryan Gray on RUclips who restores McCulloch saws that are sometimes in horrendous disrepair. He goes through these same steps.