The Polestar 2 Gets a Little Better
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2023
- The Polestar 2 got a new look! In this clip, Marques, David, and Andrew discuss whether or not they think it's an improvement to how the car used to look.
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The Polestar 3 is a completely different car vs the Polestar 2. It's built on the new Volvo platform, that is going to be used on the new eXC90 too.
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I like the rear end of Polestar 2. It's very distinctive. While the front end looks like every other modern Volvo model.
One feature of the Polestar that appeals to me the most is the inclusion of Android Automotive. Hyundai and Kia EVs are awesome but their infotainment and charging/trip planning are not good.
I was in Sydney on the weekend and was surprised how many polestars were around, they were everywhere
The polestar 1 was one of the most beautiful cars ever.
I know beauty is subjective, but I think you have not seen many cars : D
@@xMaku1 Il bet I have had more cars than you.🤣
@@ozzycalle That is probably true. But considering all classics from Ferrari, Porsche, Bugatti, Merc, BMW etc, you picked sedan that has nothing special about its silhouette as 'one of the most beautiful cars ever'. Maybe you should watch even more cars.
I agree. I was almost shocked on how beautiful it was when I saw it in real life. Seeing it in real life is a totally different experience.
@@xMaku1 exactly though. It’s simple, it’s understated, it’s classy as fuck. It’s just simply beautiful, it’s not trying too hard to look insane or wild.
Snow white 2022 Polestar 2 AWD owner here. Best purchase I've made in a long time. Strong performance, decent charge and the car gets compliments whereever it goes!
Same here! 6k miles in and still love the car as much as day 1. It is just such a solid car.
Same here , i've owned a P2 since September 2020 and love it - it's the best car i've ever owned !
Funny you said it. First time I saw it "uber" ride I complimented the car straight away 🤣
Love the Framework laptop!! A video on that would be super interesting, I love mine. Glad you all are pro right to repair.
7:22 I have the 2022 dual motor Polestar and recently did a road trip, and yes provided a flat terrain (like California's I-5) and keeping it say under 80mph the EPA rating does match the actual range (so around 270 miles).
So the car has exactly the amount of battery strength that the car says it should have when it arrives at the charging station. It was a car tester in Norway, so the on-board computer did not have accurate information at all about how much battery he would have left when he got to the charging station
We have a 2023 dual motor and can confirm.
2:32 The previous single-motor Polestar 2 was FWD - thus the RWD is new for the single-motor.
The biggest problem with small and fast incremental updates for cars is the valuation of the car in the used market. In the traditional lineups, you know the model of the car and feature set, so you can come to a valuation. But if the updates are too frequent, reaching a valuation becomes really difficult.
I like the new EV front ends. I like the fact that they're getting away from the old school 'grill'. EVs don't need the same engine airflow as an ICE. I think they need to push the styling toward a new look. It will be a step-by-step process but I think we'll start seeing some more interesting front ends. Also, boys, the Polestar 3 (larger SUV) has been introduced. Look-up the launch video. I believe production begins in March and deliveries starting Q3, 2023. The smaller SUV, Polestar 4 is to be introduced in 2024...I think. I'm waiting for the 5 (the Precept). That's an AWESOME car.
I own a dual motor 2022 Polestar 2, range is decent in the summer, 250ish, winter 160 or so. For us, range is fine, we seldom go on longer trips. Charging speed is 155kw, which is also fine, in our area (MN) chargers faster than that are very rare. 95% of our charging is done at home, so speeds are irrelevant. BTW, 0-60 times on the dual motor versions is 4.6 seconds, with the performance upgrade (now available in the US) you're looking at 4.2. Sporty, fun car to drive, we love ours!
how much electricity does it consume in the winter, it is 27 kWh
But maybe you don't make long journeys, but there are others, for example a 4 hour drive one way And then maybe in the winter when it's cold with snow and ice
@@Andersljungberg Yesterday my wife drove it, put on a little over 100 miles. She used 55kwh. (recharged it to 90% last night). It was -12f when she left home. With our rates here it cost $7.75 to recharge. She preheats the climate at all her stops so it stays warm. And no, to answer your other question we don't do many long trips. That's what my plane is for.
@@gbsorenson Surely it should heat up the battery automatically until you get to the charging station that you have selected in the trip computer?
@@Andersljungberg yes, if you select a charger as your destination in Google maps, it will preheat the battery for charging. If you use Carplay for navigation, it will not.
But the problem with Tesla's thing about upgrades is because they sometimes don't say when you're getting upgrades and changes because it could be in the middle of them making cars then decide to change and add something. The nice thing about making them a yearly refresh is because it lets buyers know if they are getting something different per year than if they did one huge change in the middle of the year and you just bought a car and missed out on it.
The two guys on either end know their shit about EV and cars. The guy in the middle knows nothing. He literally thought the dot in the middle of the grill was a LiDAR sensor…it’s just a front facing camera.
tbh, I wish that mono-tooth "grill" was matt black (yes Marquess, yes) for all models.
I agree, or atleast an option
The dual motor in Europe does get the bigger 84kW/h battery. They're probably trying to run the inventory for the 78kW/h battery. Experts are expecting the 84kW/H dual motor to come to the US maybe the following year.
I agree that the 2 looks frumpy and the C pillar is bulky. That grill change is not enough to make it look slick. The interior is very pretty though.
the focus on that water bottle though...
I've driven the Polestar2, slapping car.
They're probably super agile because the suspension is actually thought through on these things, unlike many other brands.
I also hate the semi coupe semi sedan roofline.
I don't think it's as easy for car manufactuerers to drop new stuff like smartphone companies can, everything needs to be approved and it costs alot of money.
Also what's some headlight animation gonna cost them, it's one extra module with some code.
3:20 M2 Pro MBP went up in price in Europe. Now starts at €2,500 and with the slower 512 GB SSD
Face-lift doesn't need new name. Every year car differs little bit from older.
He looks like he drives a Forrester to hiking trails with his golden retriever named Shadow just long enough to ease his chafing after a 4 hour session on the Hub
I'm a little annoyed that some of the other markets get the larger battery sooner than the US but I love most everything about this. Especially the upgrades to the single motor, wasn't much reason to choose it before. Now it's much more capable.
I could take or leave the update on the front. I just wish they'd made the sensor stuff on it less obvious.
Other car testers say that it is Tesla's trip computer that is more accurate on how much battery is left when the car arrives at the charging station. And if it showeFd an error, it does it in a conservative way, so you don't risk being left behind on the road with an empty battery
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As someone who just ordered an M2 Pro Mac Mini, you can tell how I feel about changing a form factor for the sake of a "new look". Just gimme the horsepower.
well its more then just a look change, they moved and added a bunch of the new sensor modules for the saftey systems and other features
Marques, check your microphone... Your audio quality has been blown out compared to everyone else for the past few podcast videos.
i want the polestar 3/suv
My polestar 2 can easily hypermile over the advertised range.
All information on the Polestar 3 should be available. 111 kWh battery, dual motor setup, Dual Clutch torque vectoring etc. Really looking forward to an early autofocus review in the end of the year! ;) (Make it happen!)
Sitting there with laptops in front of all of them and they just sit there and guess about if the Polestar 3 was announced already and if any details were available for it. 😂
Those are decorations 🤣
The new grill is very simmilar to its cousin, the volvo xc40.
Any thoughts on the Jaguar I-Pace? Seems no love for the Jag
Hoping that Aptera one day crosses into Marques' top 4!
The reason car manufacturers don’t and won’t make significant upgrades every single model year is because if they did, everyone would just wait for the next year if they knew something better was coming.
The Osborne Effect
It sounds like we haven’t started separating EVs like we do Gas cars. From luxury and affordable. All EVs are being judged on the same plain… at least by MKBHD
Nobody buys a Prius because of how it looks until maybe now with the new one.
The Polestar 2024 lineup looks strikingly similar to the 2023 BMW i4 lineup…
Only the RWD single motor version gets the bigger battery pack and faster charging. The dual motor models are stuck with smaller battery and slower charging according to the media release from Polestar.
So we have Polestar 2s at my job and they still have the grill thing
I thought the generational changes by ICE OEMs was about 7-10 years. Like they’ll release a Honda Civic that’s completely updated vs small changes. The problem with this, is that by the time they update, it’s already outdated in terms of tech and design (small screens running Android).
I think the Tesla approach is great for consumers getting the best product, but it also means the moment you buy a Tesla it can be outdated (like I got the Intel chip when they were already delivering cars with the Ryzen chip).
I wouldn’t bother upgrading until something like Project Highland comes out AND has all the cool updates (single cast body, 4680 cells, HW4+)
The polestar as an estate would be the best ev imaginable
It looks like someone forgot to put the grill on the car. 😆
close to 400 miles
The machE is backwards to what you said.... The gt is black and the premium and select are color matched. You said the opposite.
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Please tell me they changed that awful key fob with the facelift😕
The old grill looked so much better. The front looks a bit ugly to me now.
Agreed. Kinda disappointed they replaced it
Totally agree. Love the look of the current, makes it stand out from other bland looking EVs. All of the SUV type look the same and this is just looking more like a tesla which are ugly as all hell lol
I agree. Makes it look similar to the c40/xc40 BEV. The older grill gives the contrast the front needs to be attractive IMO.
Disagree. I’m not a fan of grilles of any design. I’m glad we’re stepping into a new generation of propulsion, and vehicle design aesthetics.
A new version of tesla could mean thicker windows that insulate cold better and lower the sound and better suspension
it's such a shame they changed that grill !! I way prefer the older grill.
BMW ix3 is such a Nice EV aswell
Guy in the blue sweatshirt keeps interrupting
I prefer gasoline but these polestar are awesome and popular in Europe
i hate the flat fronts that people think EVs need. work the cooling system into the design, heat pumps and cooling loops still exist and are important to the function of the car, do some cool air tunnel passthrough stuff like some race cars have with their auxiliary radiators. the Bisimoto Porsche electric swap did it well i think
tata sierra EV too
Will MKBHD ever review Indian EVs
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Google and Apple will move into the auto industry with a OS for EV vehicles. The "apple" car people have been talking about is not a car itself, but the system the car will use to control its peripherals. This will be a game changer for the industry.
I think the Polestar 3 has like 111kwh battery pack
Save him, he’s trapped??
"I prefer the SUV" and you are target hatred of all car enthusiasts everywhere lol
The Polestar 2 is pretty cool. But it isn't a real EV. It is built on Volvo/Geely's CMA/ICE vehicle platform - that is why it has a transmission tunnel and is rather heavy. The Polestar 3 on the other hand will be Polestar's first real EV. Love the brand.
Why are Americans so obsessed with SUV?
Europeans are too...
Polestar sounds like a competition for strippers.
Polestar 2 is just too expensive for what it offers. It doesn't even have blind spot monitoring on the base model.
Send out the updates asap. Use the public as beta testers. Win/win for both customer and company.
* PSNY...Polestar..Expanding into 30 Countries in 2023... Expecting 60 % Increase in Deliveries in 2023 Over 2022. I'm Predicting Profitability in 4th Quarter 2024... and Over $ 40 Stock Price by then.
This is dependent on production line design more than model designs
I saw a polestar on the road I swear I thought it was a Scion tC.
MKBHD
Did you watch Boston Dynamics new video. It's incredible!
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This Wvfrm podcast was a snoozefest. Sorry guys!
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First view 🤯
Nah, beat you to it
way too early
The Polestar would be much better if they fix the interior. Too many buttons, cramped conditions for the occupants/bad ergonomics in general (drink holder positions are terrible). The car in general to drive just seems like it isn't taking advantage of all that EV's can offer. Rear wheel drive is a great move, the front wheel drive isn't nice to drive. Build though overall seems very good. Shame they are charging so much for the extra's that just come with a Tesla as that is a deal breaker as well.
This car does not have "too many buttons." It doesn't have that many. It wasn't designed as an EV therefore it has compromises. The Polestar 3 was and it's completely different.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Yep absolutely keep those buttons. And there really is not that many of them anyway. Tesla approach is just bad (=everything on screen).
Polestar 2 has had problems with electricity consumption. It has been too high and the charging speed in practice has not been what Polestar has claimed
I didn’t bother to view the video because I know the originator is a Tesla owner. Not objective.
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ev is so wack 😂😂
Should I say “first”?
Polestar 2 upgrade is worth waiting for , rear wheel drive, etc. Most Annoying is your collective use of the word..."LIKE". Your not children any more . So please "LIKE"...grow up. 🤪🤪👍👍
Crazy that Americans are paying up for this Chinese car
Model S, Taycan, Rivian, Polestar in that order....shh You are lavishing too much praise on Volvo. I have a Model 3. However, as a Tesla owner, I have to admit the best EV is the Lucid Air Grand Touring. It's the fastest (2.6s), longest range (516mi), and nicest interior. You test-drove an ugly color combination. Check out cosmos silver. That being said, Tesla has the chargers and Electrify America is garbage. Stick with your Model S.
I always start to listen/watch these WC videos but after a couple of seconds I am all over the top because of the hugely overused "like" word. It sounds awfully cheap. Please stop this.
Overall bad talk. This show is getting dumped.
No thanks. Volvo and Polestar are now Chinese owned companies so I won't be considering their offerings and I'll be discouraging others as well. Same with Lenovo.
(Written on a phone assembled in China...) 🤣
@@everpuremusic although it's not always possible, I try to avoid supporting inhumane communist dictatorships whenever I can. I also have absolutely no trust in the Chinese government. While our own government may be imperfect, there is absolutely no comparing it to China's.
The Smart zone integration should be executed like the Polestar 3 is better blended , but I understand that this way it will get more attention and I guess capture people curiosity is a marketing thing