The 2023 Hyundai Ionic 6 Is One of the Most Efficient EV's You Can Buy: Here's How and Why!
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The question is: will we be able to get this car without waiting for 2 or 3 years in Canada?
You are lucky, I'm in Quebec and at Hyundai they said 4 to 5 years... In a sad way I'm happy, the 2024 will probably have the rear wiper and better batterie. Also the 12vdc batterie trouble will hopefully be solved at this time.
In 2 to 3 years you will...😆
My brother get one in july in Switzerland!
Not a chance in hell
Learnt my lesson with Ioniq 5 so I placed my order back in November, will get it by the end of this year (I’m in Montreal)
I'm glad the 90's design aesthetic did not scare Hyundai away from maximizing the aerodynamics. 360 mi of range is impressive at this point in EV history.
Lucid holds the record of over 500. Next Goal is 1000M should be within next 4-5 years
It looks like if they repackaged that front motor that they could have useable frunk
In think the Ioniq 6 is beautiful, and I commend Hyundai for being bold enough to build it!
They make junk
@@allentoyokawa9068 not relevant
@@allentoyokawa9068 bz4x?
I always like to know which systems are liquid cooled vs air cooled!
Keep diving Deeper and Deeper into this sort of technology, thanks!
Flat cells vs. round (really cylindrical) cells? He described the battery cells as looking like a pop-tart. Flat cells save space between the gaps of round ones. But are flat cells less safe in accidents? I'm thinking of the thermal runaway effects of the older Samsung Galaxy Note phones. Round cells are hard to bend.
The biggest issue at hand with anything pure BEV is that the battery is chemically unstable or *"active"* (discharging) while at rest absolutely so using cylinder architecture for the USA has always been seen as the most safe approach. Having said that your cell phone has never been powered by using a cylinder structure I imagine in order to make way for wireless charging which has been validated now in the real World for some time. One of the reasons I refuse to buy new electronics for the most part is that wireless charging is not sold with the product which in my view anyways includes pure BEV as well. An ICE Platform remains far more safe and efficient as a consequence as my locally made hybrid system has an *"off switch"* which physically disconnects the battery components from all ICE components excepting the starter battery. Plus there are two types of ICE power units one using ignition based "gasoline" the other using compression based *"diesel."* both effectively use the same power trains but have two vastly differing characteristics. Pure BEV is much more reflective of a diesel not gasoline system which simply near unlimited amount of torque. Also pure BEV is quite massive (heavy by displacement but also using heavy by use of heavy metal) so requires a more diesel like commercial grade suspension and braking system...all of which Tesla more than any other has *"gone there."* still as relates to both safety and efficiency a Ford Model A remains vastly superior to what pure BEV brings to the table given the inclusion of a bolt on entertainment and navigation *"computing system."*
Before Tesla arrived this aspect was handled exclusively by Apple and Google.
Elon Musk now owns privately Twitter now as well so imagine a Twitter enabled and run Das Auto let alone cell phone architecture and the need for even a battery period beyond what can be put on the circuit board might suddenly disappear. That would be not only very safe but quite the leap in performance as well! Cell phones with foldable screens is a good look at that future as now I would argue.
Still this vehicle has all of the "makings" of a true entry level pure BEV that Tesla has always laid claim to as its goal.
Sandy Monroe prefers the cylinders over the pancakes. Time will tell.
It would be interesting to see how the Ioniq 5 range would be rated using the different testing method.
12:30 - wait, what...? they're at the dealers...? holy crap I've gotta call and arrange a test drive. thanks for the info and the cut-away video Romey. 👍
Good luck getting the dealer to let you test drive without committing to purchase at well over MSRP.
It's great to see the tech, but it is critical that your dealer network knows how to repair charging issues. Currently my 2023 Ioniq 5 Preffered AWD Long Range with Ultimate Package (Canadian equal to the USA Limited). Since new in October 2022 it has yet to be able to fast charge, April 6 I have my 5th attempt to repair the DC fast charging issue were they are now replacing VCMS module, which will likly not fix the issue according to another Ioniq 5 customer who has the same issue and had the VCMS module replaced. I have a 2020 Kia Soul EV limited for daily driving and bought the Ionic 5 as my road trip car, which it still cannot accomplish because of no Fast DC charging!
I read someone had a similar issue on Reddit. Turned out the charge port lock was malfunctioning. Level 2 doesnt lock but DCFC does
@Scy First repair attempt was exactly that, but not so much the latch, they misdiagnose a fault DC highvoltage pin temperature sensor. They replaced the whole shooting match, CCS / J1772 socket cable assembly, no luck on that idea.
Longer range/higher efficiency sounds great, but I wish there was more information about when the front drive disconnects, and then when/how quickly it can reengage. An AWD car has to be ready to be an AWD. That and how it would behave if you were towing something
Its an electric motor so when no power is applied to it its free to turn... No link from the rear to the front like a fuel car.
If it’s anything like the Ioniq 5 I’m sure it’s AWD is operated by their “HTRAC” system, and further adjusts based on drive modes of Eco/Normal/Sport/Snow and for towing there is a trailer setting to toggle, all of these things probably impact the aggressiveness or lack there of, of when the front drive disconnects.
interesting that the first thing he points to is the testing methodology. Wonder if Ioniq 5 can punch a little higher too
Just to be clear, is the “field issue” he mentions the handshake problems between specifically the Ioniq 5 and Magic Dock? That will be a welcome fix.
Yes, he's referencing the charge failures of I5 owners using Magic Dock. There have been successes even before this fix (see new Plug & Play EV video), but it's not clear how to make that happen at every MD location. Fingers crossed for a permanent fix in the next month or so 🤞
Nice review & deep dive. But I can't believe the lead powertrain engineer could not recall the torque figures on his pet project.
Yeah, he was a little light on specs.
Is this guy even an engineer?
I don’t think the extra 1.5 seconds 0 to 60 is going to make a big difference to most people that would be shopping this car. It’s not the “sexy” (or is it S3XY?) pick. This car to me is more of a family car/daily driver/ easy going ride. I’d buy one.. but then, I’m older so I want a comfortable ride (I’ve seen some reviewers compare the ride of the Ioniq 6 to a Mercedes) more than I want acceleration.
interesting video but please move slower for better footage. Turning from left to right and back again and again doesn't make sense. One slow slide maybe on a tripod and better audio at your end wood be more professional. Thanks for considering
Hyundai has done an amazing job with their EVs. The main difference in terms of efficiency is their drag coefficient. The rest of the changes are minuscule and already exist in the ioniq 5. The question is how many people would opt for slightly more range for less cargo space and the different shape.
Unfortunately, they’re going to have a hard time selling EVs in the US for at least a 2-3 years until they can ramp US production as they’re not going to be eligible for the IRA tax credit. I hope that maybe they’ll be able to lease them.
At this point, for EVs, it’s (almost) all about volume. Demand outstrips demand significantly. Even right now, before people really experienced EVs, about 34% of the US population already wants one but only 10% can get one due to supply and to some extent cost (which will be less of an issue with IRA)…. the more people who experience them, the more will want them and as prices come down, it’s going to overtake gas cars faster than what most people imagine.
I like how 5.2 seconds isn't considered fast anymore.
My question is, will people buy these now that the imports in the US don't get the 7500 tax break? Here in Canada, every BEV just trickles in at very low numbers. OEMs want to send cars anywhere but Canada. LOL. We haven't seen an increase availability of the EV6 or Ioniq 5. The Mach E is still over priced so nobody buys that here. You can get a Tesla in weeks. Still that's the only BEV readily available.
Well the Tesla is also probably the best value for the money too. Plus it has a heat pump standard, etc. I think other companies are going after countries/states with the most strict emission laws/regulation timelines.
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 The Canadian dollar sucks and the Canadian govt is being out spent by other countries who are throwing money at the auto industry. Honestly, I wouldn’t call any of these BEVs value plays but Tesla is still Beating the competition. VW can’t even source a heat pump. Most of the BEVs are 65k or more. It’s just stupid.
Hyundai offers $7500 off leases, since leases get the tax break even if they dont meat the origin requirements. So potentially they could actually advertise that
@@r5LgxTbQ that’s whacky. LOL.
This “lead” engineer is not very knowledgeable. He sounds more like a marketing guy. He did not know any numbers. When asked about the charge curve, he mentioned the glass / drink analogy, which a very novice answer.
Thanks for the inside look!
I would have also asked why the decided to go with a design that does not have a frunk.
360 from 77 is very impressive!!
I love the fizzy drink charging analogy!
So good to hear about a legacy automaker innovating. Tesla is a gift that keeps on giving!
Anyone else not know what the heck a two cycle or five cycle certification is? I tried looking it up but could not find any other press material covering that aspect.
Yes, it’s the way the EPA rates EV range.
@@TFLEV oh thanks, I found an AP article covering that and mentioning the Porsche Taycan. So doing all 5 test certifications enables a higher EPA certified range, but doesnt mean the actual range has been improved right?
)I was wondering the same thing. Sounds like teaching to the test to me.
The Ioniq-6 is an impressive vehicle, however at 2520kg for the long range AWD version it's still a heavy vehicle. A lot of additional work needs to be done to improve the efficiency to where Tesla is currently.
This new Hyundai Ioniq 6 RWD is more efficient than the Tesla Model 3 RWD, it's also bigger than the Tesla Model 3 so it will definitely weigh more.
Please? This car has 2020kg and not 2520…
The .22 drag coefficient! Wow that’s great the best in the industry I think . And I agree with another commenter , why are we so focused on the 0-60 time , it’s not important anymore even the quarter mile in 1.8 sec whatever , not important all electrics push you back in your seat , even Hummer right . The most Important is Range , range , range! And available chargers I’m sure they’ll be growing in numbers as more electric cars are sold. And better heating cooling systems that don’t use so much power
Love the features but in light of the massive recall for issues with the hybrids across the Hyundai lineup, I'm not sure I ready to trust them yet.
theres nothing new, its egmp. will see if it does on route dcfc navigation, plug and charge, and preconditioning.
No
Sometimes
Maybe are the answers so far. And forget about no hassle otas, sentry mode, dog mode, real adas etc.
Maybe the Koreans next gen ev platform will master what teslas already accomplished since 2012? 😀
Gas use a lot of gas when cold so it is true for both type of vehicles.
From what I understand, this does not qualify for the 7500$ federal tax credit, as it's made in South Korea. Can anyone confirm?
The IRS will rule if it’s considered a free trade country soon so that they will qualify. Japan and South Korea have been lobbying the issue.
I want to see the RWD long range model efficiency numbers and review. Want to see how close it can get to that 361 mile number. If it is accurate then I will have to seriously consider this car. Thanks for the video.
Ye looking at the random hardware everywhere, this is a parts bin car.
Typical Tesla fanboy know nothing response, come up with something original.
Hopefully they have fixed the 12v battery drain issue.
Ah man, that's disappointing to hear that they went with the 5 cycle test for the Ioniq 6 instead of the more realistic 2 cycle test :( Otherwise, the car is very awesome.
Shame that Hyundai didn't discuss any changes (if any) they made to the ICCU for the Ioniq 6. Ioniq 5 owners have reported this part failing after 11 months.
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Great video guys
Great video. Thx.
I'm not so much shocked by the high range of this car as I am by the vast increase over the range of the other cars on the same platform. I'm very skeptical.
Awesome innovations here. Next gen EV development from Hyundai/KIA. I just wish it looked better 🤷🏾♂️
Very good competitive product. Hyundai needs to start building them in the states. The ev9 is going to be huge is Hyundai can build it in the states and price it aggressively. It may even do well in China.
EV9 will be built at the new plant in Savannah. They might start it out at the West Point plant.
Maybe they fixed the ICCU that deadlined my 22 Ioniq 5. I have been without the car for 4 weeks now. No ICCUs are available in the US and the dealers know nothing about fixing them. They sideline the car and wait for a field tech.
Yikes
Should've asked why Hyundai doesn't sell BEV platforms in every state.
better than any tesla
9:16 I sort of understand
I don’t understand all the hype over number of seconds to reach 60 mph. Don’t remember any ICE cars advertising this rating?? Five seconds to reach 60 mph is OK for most people. Typically, the only place where zero to 60 mph becomes an issue is merging into freeway traffic.
It goes so far because it is only RWD. The Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor AWD goes the same distance. The AWD Ioniq 6 has way less range! What is with Hyundai and Kia's EVs that they lose so much range in their AWD and Performance Models? 🤔 The Kia EV6 GT loses 30% of its range whereas the Performance Tesla Model Y hardly loses any
Blablabla Tesla!
Isn’t the Ioniq 6 both bigger and heavier than the Tesla?
Almost all manufacturers have noticeably less range with AWD. Don't know why they can't do it better
@@BigOrangeSnowman88 It's smaller and less roomy than the Model S but a lot heavier. The heaviest version of the Model S weighs 4,500 lbs whereas the Ioniq 6 weighs 4,600 lbs! The Ioniq 6 weighs almost as much as a Tesla Model S despite being a much smaller car lol 😂
@@brunoheggli2888 what did I say that was factually incorrect? Please tell me 🙂
Hyundai is really advancing in the EV space.
Hyundai makes the best EV
Wow,game ovee for Tesla!
Wish we would (should) stop focusing on 0 to 60 mph times. May benefit a few racing individuals on a closed coarse, but for general road use unsafe. How much torque do you really need for passing or emergency maneuvers during everyday driving? I guess the same observation also applies to horsepower/watts. Why would you need such high horsepower/watts to drive one person to work or out and about. Would prefer AWD when needed, excellent traction (with the proper tires for your climate and region) regardless of road conditions, advanced safety plus driver assistance features, adequate range (250-300 miles) and over the air software updates/upgrades. Then manufacturer vehicles with high horsepower/watts for those that truly require it (heavy trucks/pickups).
@Michael Buchal.Of course you're right! But that makes too much sense, Michael.
At 55k, that thing should rip the doors off other cars. Not sure why they designed the expensive model to be so limp.
One of the biggest piece of junk EV you can buy****
Came here to say it’s spelled IONIQ 😅
Too bad the South Korean cars have to be recalled every week! Some don't because they are stolen like crazy!
This power tran engineer didn't tell about future LG CHEM auto batteries hand shake deal that would 🐝 used in future range over 40~50% improvements longer. That will make tess engineer 💩in their 🩲🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If Cupertino 🍎 comp has made deal with LG CHEM 4 them to change i📱 batteries 🔋. Then it will be amazing 4 Hyundae/KN future EV cars..
Well how reliable is it over 350k miles and is it fully rebuiltable with tools I can buy
No, but no electric or modern ICE car is fully rebuildable with tools you can buy unless you know how to rebuild computer chips.
Proving reliability over hundreds of thousands of miles is a function of time, and a lot of it. It is impossible for any modern, let alone new vehicle to prove such a thing.
You've never seen one, and yet you're preemptively complaining about what will happen after 350,000 miles? I don't know what you're rebuilding, since it needs no engine, transmission, emission controls, fuel or exhaust systems.
@@TFLEV What's funny is that the parts will eventually go out of date so even with the tools, cars with that many miles will be unrepairable as well. No one seems to mention this fact however when someone brings up nonsense like this.
No egmp platform ev sold yet actually does over 240kws for any period of time no matter how fast the charger is let alone approach 350kws.
So stop lying to customers about it eh? As bad as the sitting president claiming gm is leading in evs.👍🏻
Strange comment. How is it a lie? And is there any EV on the road charging at 350kw. I know Hummer or maybe Lucid can get fairly fast, but…
@@notshylo yes it's an outright lie! No egmp platform car publicly shown charging can even beat the 250kws a tesla can do since 2019.
These cars average maxing out around 220-240kws in ideal condtitions but nothing near the 350kws so widely claimed.
The highest right now for an ev publicly available for personal transportation is about 270kws for the porsche taycan since 2021.
The lucid air dream has gone a bit over 300kws shared publicly but still not approaching 350kws which they also claim.
As you said the hummev can barely top 300kws for a brief 5mins or so.
Then mate rimac charging his personal nevera showed just over 330kws last year at a public 350kw 800v dc fast charger.
The tesla semi can do 750kws on it's megachargers per actual Pepsi drivers using and charging them.
@@4literv6 No one has claimed eGMP cars charge at 350kW. No one. So I really don’t know what your beef is.
@@notshylo roman said it right in the video smh. Blocked and muted you now are. 👍🏻
@@4literv6 When?
More Korean junk ... you guys Crack me up with the way you lie about Korean junk😅
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