I just installed a Denon AVR-X2500H for a home theater. Their family enjoys the results of my tweaking the sound through Audessy. It's definitely good value for features and performance.
Enjoyed the video. After 8-9 years of loving my Onkyo TX-NR609, it's been having HDMI & power-off issues, so looking at my options for a replacement, and Denon is certainly at the top of my list.
I had to replace my Onkyo receiver in Jan. 2015, when the power transformer failed. Treated myself to a Marantz SR5007, and have been using that ever since for both movies (7.2 channel) and 2channel stereo for music. To me, it sounds absolutely awesome, and never fails to deliver. I would recommend Marantz to anyone.
I’ve owned 3 high end Denon Amps and will never buy another one. Two of them blew the HDMI board and the third blew the power supply. The cost to service them was almost as much as buying a new one. Switched to Yamaha 3080 and it’s worked flawlessly for 2.5 years.
I've managed to switch brands everytime I upgrade my AVR. Started with Pioneer, then Onkyo, then Yamaha, and now Marantz. Never owned a Denon so I can't speak to that experience. However, I've been so happy with my Marantz that I'll likely go with them again the next time I upgrade.
I did a little research on amplifiers up to $ 1000 and about warming problems like Denon 4000 models and especially the popular 4500 model say it has 9.2 120W channels per channel but the overall amplifier power only TOTAL POWER 600W Make 600: 9 = 66.66666 and one third of them don't take advantage of this
Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Pioneer's all have great budget and high end. I feel its more of an opinion which to choose. I go with Denon user friendly and the lower end Denons are well equipped and sound great. Again its all about what you like.
I’ve owned Denon and Pioneer Elite both are excellent. I even had great luck with Sherwood in the past. I have not had good experience with Onkyo, and neither have people I know that all eventually dumped them for something else. My brother likes Denon and Yamaha, but on the same set of speakers I think his Denon sounded better than the Yamaha he upgraded too for Atmos. Yamaha audio reproduction always seems a little too sharp and bright, not treble heavy, but just focusing more on higher frequencies and muddying the mids, and it can’t be fixed with an equalizer. Might just be a receiver/speaker pairing issue for him.
@@emotionz3 I'm not a fan of Yamaha amps, they sound so thin and light, can get boring after awhile but they do make great sounding speakers and headphones which puts some expensive gear to shame.
Denon was recommend when I was buying my Polk theater system. I am new to this all and it sounds like I made a good choice 🤷🏼♂️ Denon 7.1 receiver AVR X2400H Polk SS S55 towers. Polk SS S35 center speaker. Polk SS S15 bookshelf speakers. Polk HTS10 Subwoofer.
I use Boston Acoustics , Pioneer and klipsh , It's not necessary to use the same brand on all your speakers , I have the same X2400h if you want an advise use only 5.1 or 5.2 like me and delete the Atmos speakers , in Amp options select zone 2 and then turn off zone 2 what happens , well the denon turn aside all the Amp power to main zone , the volume power increase twice is amazing , and Another advise if you tower has a passive crossover set the volume in -12 , why ? Because you eliminate all the noise and interference of the amplification . See you.
@@felixflores5225 i listened polk T 50 on youtube and i think the sound is not clear in my country the T50 cost 350 euro so maybe its for that the sound is not clear
This doesn't only apply to their newer receivers. My father owned a Denon DRA-375RD since the late 90s, last week he gave it to me because he bought a new one. Even though it's now more than 20 years old, the device still works like a charm. The inputs are more than sufficient for my usage and the sound quality is excellent. It still outperforms most of the new, so-called "hifi" receivers from other companies.
Excellent video as always. I hit Joe up on Patreon a few months ago looking for some advice and he recommended a Denon AVR over a cheaper option I was looking at it and said “buy once, cry once”. Very wise words from the master. Loving my Denon so far.
Hi, Anthem and Paradigm are a perfect match! However, Denon receivers match up perfectly with Paradigm as well. It all comes down how much one wants to spend.
Are you kidding me? I'm in Canada too but I own YAMAHA and SVS and you can get deals on many products not just those made in Canada. "I am an Anthem guy, but I am in Canada." I am an YAMAHA guy, but I am in Japan 😂
@@thomasfox8027 Totally agree, I have 3 Aventage receivers in three rooms of my house. They are amazing and have all the features I will need for quite awhile.
I just recently upgraded from a Pioneer sc-lx501 to a Denon 4500h and I could not believe the difference in sound clarity and imaging. I have a 5.2.2 system with in-wall Polk audio LCI-RTS105 speakers with SVS dual subs in a mid-sized room. They are older thx certified with 250 watt 92db sensativity 4 ohm speakers. The Denon seems to have brought them out to life! I am now a Denon fan!
running a dsp a2 and 3 pair of bw 302 supported with 2 mk sb8 almost 20 years now and never thought about to replace any part of it . still sounds awesome and works flawlessly
I have a Sony 5.1 that I bought in 1999 and its now my garage with a 5 disk carousel cd player. Crazy it all still works even after the last 6 years in a dusty hot garage.
I bought a refurbished Onkyo TX NR656 about a year ago. It was about $225 USD and it’s 7.2 . It has all the features I need, including some I don’t, like ATMOS. What you didn’t speak of is sound signature. Yamaha, for example, traditionally has a more “rolled off” upper mid and high range, which is less punchy and perceived as more “warm”. Onkyo was and still is more punchy and upfront sounding, on average. I think the Denon sound signature is more punchy now also- similar to Onkyo. Sony would be in that category now too. It would be good to speak to this topic rather than only what features they have. Also in how to match them with certain speaker brands, which are all slightly different. I like, for example, the more punchy and up-front sound signature with no rolled off highs. Not everyone will like that, however. As such, I have mostly Klipsch R series speakers (base model, but far better than the old Ikon/Synergy line) running off my Onkyo, and am very pleased.
Both Denon and Marantz provide great quality into the entry level of hifi. I own a Marantz amp and it sounds silky smooth. I have never heard it strain to produce good levels of hifil sound. Before AV receivers, I owned a Denon 100 watt receive. It sounded great!
My older denons do pretty much everything you mentioned. From 2010 and 2012. And were dirt cheap used. In total I have 5 denon avr's and love em all. Denon and marantz for life.
Last month upgarded from a onkyo txrz610 to a Marantz SR6013, huge difference, Marantz is a amazing avr..Running Fluance Signature series HT with SVS prime elevation for Atmos & dual fluance DB12 12"Subs. Auddsey sounds better off for me.
@@lusly258 Everyone ears are totally different, its definitely not my setup! I read on AVS forum & other places ,people like the sound better off & then on..
i have auddsey on all the time for 4 k and blu-ray moves, i just love the sound of atmos and dtx is fantastic with auddsey on and atmos to with crystal clear sound.
Lots of these qualities seem pretty common with most modern receivers. That being said my next receiver may be a Denon. Onkyo used to have great FM tuners and were very durable. So I recently bought a Onkyo 5 disc CD player from the Best Buy showroom--but it starts skipping about 19 minutes into a disc. Years ago I bought a $1,000 Denon 5.1 receiver after about 10 years, it developed a noisy channel. Driving a 4ohm speaker is important to me too. Waiting to see what the HDMI 2.1 implementation is on 2020 receivers.
I think you’re absolutely right. I just picked up a AVR-x8500h for $2,500.00 bucks! An open box return. Score! I love it. I’ve also got a Marantz NR1607 for my bedroom. I love it also. I understand, Sound United just completed their purchase of “Onkyo, Interga, and Pioneer.” All of a sudden, no one can compare. I bet they all end up with Audisey. You think?
I didn't even think about it, but you're right. They might all have Audyssey. I do like competition though. I hope Dirac and ARC makes their pricing more competitive so consumers might find them in less expensive models. I saw Dirac on an NAD T 758 V3 AVR and I was surprised it was "only" $1299.
Joe N Tell absolutely. The NAD is a nice machine, however, for the money, I believe that I bought the best receiver money can buy, based on features. On screen display and stuff.(AVR-x8500h) I have been a long time Pioneer fan. But even they can’t touch “Denon,Marantz “. Until now that they are all owned by “Sound United “. I love your channel Joe. You and Technodad. You’re my guys. Along with audioholoics and youthman.
hi, im a proud owner of the Denon X4100w too.. been using it since 2014 :).. when you mention that you are using the same receiver as mine, it really put a smile on my face.
@@y0ng1988 I too have bought this Avr for 350,two years ago . When connected to front q acoustics 2050 ,and rear IQ intelligent level 3, floor standing (German 90’s) speakers and pioneer Sw8 mk2 sub, shake neighbour walls lol, but why rear are always more silent than front, shouldn’t tey equally be loud.
My 7 channel Onkyo TX-NR737 (before HDR support) was my first "real" home audio system. It was amazing! I first tried to upgrade to the latest (9 channel) Onkyo RZ830 and I returned it for various reasons. I ended up getting a Denon AVR-X4400H and like it too. I think the Onkyos sound better for 2 channel audio, but do not handle surround sound as well. The Denon seems to produce more sound in various surround sound modes. The Onkyos seem to produce a better phantom image and sound stage, especially the RZ830. That had a great 2 channel sound. Sticking with Denon and am considering getting some separate higher end mono amplifiers (PS Audio Stellar) to power my mains.
Had Yamaha since i bought the Yamaha dsp a592!!! Always played with the others but never left Yamaha. I feel Yamaha always sounds more complete especially in surround sound.
Hi, Yamaha receivers are great! But, its how one matches them correctly with the right speaker packages. My experience with Yamaha receivers has been when they are match with Klipsch Reference speakers, the sound is amazing for both movies and music.
I started out with a realistic vintage receiver that I still use and think it sounds great. Recently I went to the local thrift store and found a denon AVR-S730H for 40 bucks. I plugged it in and it powered on so I took the gamble. Brought it home and everything works fine on it. This is the first modern receiver I’ve owned and I was surprised by all the options and features. I have all my gaming consoles and Blu-ray running through it. Sometimes I’ll even hook up my turntable when I’m getting bored of the realistic receiver. I don’t see myself upgrading anytime soon since I’m satisfied by its performance. All your points made here I find to be true.
I have the Marantz 6012 because it was cheaper than the Denon 4400 at the time I bought. The main reason for me going Denon/Marantz was the ability to limit room correction to only below the Schroeder frequency, which are the only frequencies where room correction provides a benefit. The only other systems that allow this are expensive, high end processors.
Just bought a new Denon avr- x- 1600 7.2. Channel. Can't wait to get it . I love the surround sound systems. Listen to mainly rock. Came from the days of the first 4 channel surround sound. It was called quad in the 1970s.
I’ve had various high end Denon and Yamaha amps. I just prefer the sound of Denon every time. Currently using an AVR 4520 I picked up several years ago and couldn’t be happier.
Peetiegonzalez Absolutely correct! I’ve done careful sound quality comparisons between certain brands, Denon beats Yamaha every time, and for years now.
Joe N Tell In my many receiver sound quality comparisons over many years, with all neutral tone settings, the Yamaha’s were consistently brighter, more forward, usually less/lower reproduction of bass, giving a thinner sound. (This is their reputation also, it’s well known. So people who like more emphasis on highs/treble response go for Yamaha.) Denon and Marantz are known for more solid, thick, meaty bass, and a warmer sound, (while still being open and clear in the highs.) This is what I like, so I’ve had Denon for a long time. I’d love to know more about how Denon/Marantz compare to Onkyo and NAD in terms of signature sound/ brand sound characteristics.
@@joentell It is tough to quantify. Especially as I formed my opinion unscientifically several years ago and have stuck with Denon since. I wasn't blind testing, either, just switching the whole system out and using for days at a time. I just got the impression the Yamaha sound was a bit 'flat', compared to the Denon's more fuller sound. With Gallo Nucleus ref. speakers back in the day, I also felt the Denon offered a much clearer soundstage. Since I've stuck to speakers with decent tweeters and top-of-the-range Denon amps, (I used to pick them up used for a fraction of their original price as each new model came out with an extra codec or two, the high-end crowd would upgrade and dump their 1-gen-old $3,000 model for a few hundred bucks.) I haven't needed a centre speaker. People don't believe me at first when I tell them that, when they can clearly hear voices/instruments (seemingly) coming right out of the TV screen.
I've got the Marantz SR 7015 running tannoy eclipse three towes and eclipse mini speaker set up and it sounds great... Kicks the guts out of my old Sony receiver
I actually went with a Pioneer receiver, one of the class D amplifier models for my home theater system. The efficiency of the amp helps tremendously when placed in a cabinet or a smaller area as they won't get heat soaked as they put out much less heat than conventional class AB amps. Class D is also more energy efficient which helps when receivers are on for long periods of time. To me the amplifier is what sold me on Pioneer. Others have different priorities. Luckily we have many good choices out there.
My last recent years experience is Denon used to be built much better than last 10 years! Marantz? Not a problem. On budget n lower price points, i think onkyo may be better value. Although u never had any issue, at the price points, with Denons sound quality!
must be different here in Australia my good friend bought an S720W and had it fail out of the box, took it back to the shop, replaced it and had the next one fail straight out of the box … he now owns Onkio and loves it
Speakers have impedance not resistance as it varies with frequency. I have had two Denon AV receivers. I currenly have an AVR-X2400H and love it. It went up £200 after I bought it.
Just bought a Denon receiver to run a pair of speakers in my sunroom, and power two more out on the deck. I use it primarily for audio but really like the idea of having something that can grow over time and handle mostly everything I throw at it. Only have had it two weeks, but am loving it so far. Amazing tech for the price.
Thanks for the tips on presets. I will try it on the demon remote app. Yes the Denon Audyssey Multi EQ app is awesome. It made a big difference for me after room correction. It's a long microphone calibration time but it's worth the wait.
i have surround speakers SB-AFC140 from Technics ,in a set with surround reciever (all from 2002) ,2 years ago the reciever start to fail, i replaced it and have a marantz now, you won't believe how the speakers sound now, 10 times better ,and if you think they cant handle the power, you wold be suprised,because they are sattelite speakers, i have also 2 yamaha powered subs, ns-sw300 (X2) ,next thing i'll buy know are the new towerspeakers from technics SB-G90 and a marantz amp MM7025 , 2 MM7055 and the AV8805, online i find 6 more of technics sattelite speakers SB-AFC140 ,now ik have 11 in total, and i know it will sound the way i like to hear it, i was amazed how 17 year old speakers sound with todays amps an AV's .... Marantz and technics ... the perfect combination
Yamaha will stay and be a good brand, when it comes to avr yamaha wont fail you, good quality parts and tech same goes to denon...you wont go wrong with denon and yamaha.
Yamaha's always seemed to have good clean detailed , dynamic, uncolored sounding preamp sections, with good processing. it's the amplifier sections that could use some refinement! Pairing Yammies with outboard power amps are the way to go, imo
Henrik John I would agree... when I was comparing the Denon and Marantz side by side the Marantz had so much more dynamic expression for music. It was a lot more lively than the Denon
Had a Yamaha unit for over ten years. Worked like a charm. Decided to upgrade due to the need of more hdmi inputs. Got a middle of the pack Onkyo... A month in a half in and the unit is already displaying grave issues.
My wife had a Marantz Stereo receiver, I have had a Denon A/V receiver and DVD/CD player. Both receivers did not last past 10 years of moderate use before they failed permanently. My Denon DVD/CD player packed it in by the 5th year with even less moderate use. I just had my Yamaha RXV1000 receiver break down last year. That was 17 years of very satisfied service. Of course I replaced it with a RX-A1070. At this level all Yamaha, Denon, Marantz, Onkyo and Pioneer Elite receivers sound great. Some may differ with features but I believe nobody manufacturers better quality and durability than Yamaha.
I've had a lot of denon amps and I feel you need to buy one of the top two models in the range to get any real power. I still use my AVC-A1SR THX amp for music, this is a beast, but for home cinema I bought a second hand Pioneer Sc-LX85 for about £300 which is a far better solution than a low end Denon albeit minus the atmos decoder which I wouldn't use.
I just got the Yamaha rx-a3080 to replace my Marantz sr6008. why does the Yamaha sound so low? I have to crank the volume really high, the sr6008 sounds louder.
I have a Marantz sr7012 and I am impressed! Such smooth sound! Put it this way Marantz receivers sing to me while many other brands scream at me! Smooth!
My 10 year old Marantz lost its audio a couple weeks ago, and evidenced symptoms over the past few years. This was my first Marantz product. It does not strike me that they're built like tanks any more.
The old receivers are basically good as integrated amps. Tuners are gone. Outlaw makes a great receiver with lots of power and I think it has HDMI which is rare in a stereo receiver. But if you want multi-channel, receivers are most common. Be sure it has full pre-outs so you can connect an external amp.Gene at Audioholics tests receivers and has found that some do not have full output voltages at their pre-out jacks. Watch his videos.
I have had a Denon 1613 for years and love it. I am slowly upgrading my watching area, new Andrew Jones 5.1 are on their way, and eventually a new AVR to support Atmos, but this is a multi year project for me. But when the time comes it will be another Denon or Marantz
I have the X1300W which was Denon's entry level atmos, dtsx receiver back in 2016 which gives a great bang for your buck with movies, not so good with 2 channel (Direct) stereo for music though, so for lossles music audio i use the centre spread option.
I must have missed something everything you talked about is general stuff about all AV receivers, so what's so special about denon and marantz? Is it there technology, circuit topology, better components, features that are star lights ahead of other manufacturers?
I agree. This video tells me nothing. Other than he is probably sponsored by Denon and Marantz. I am in the market to replace my 9 year old Denon AVR-1612. I won’t be getting another Denon.
@@joentell Hey Joe I like most of your videos, just wasn't impressed with this one and agreed with Shannon. As for #2, yes it lasted 9 years. The reason I won't be getting another one I experienced a poor warranty situation early on. There was also a time that it randomly lost all of my setup requiring reprogramming and recalibration. As of today it is working fine, but I want to try another brand for my next AVR.
@@TurtleBones You accused me of being sponsored on this video which is incorrect. I have proudly done some in the past for other companies and plan on doing sponsored videos in future. I always mention when that's the case. I have actually never even done a review of a Sound United product as of now. I just want to set the record straight on that. I'm saying I like Denon and Marantz because I've personally had good experiences with them. Guess what my next video is? A Yamaha receiver...and I really like it. So this was not meant to be exclusive to Marantz and Denon. It's reasons why I like them, not why I don't like others.
I've had multiple brands of receivers over the years from Yamaha, 3 generations of Denon (when they were beastly and made in Japan), Onkyo and latest is Marantz. Agree on most and really enjoy my D&M, except for handling 4 ohm speakers. On my old Denon AVR-4802, had trouble with 4ohms loads and its gone in to protection mode/shutdown. I've upgraded to a Marantz and an outboard McIntosh Amp for the front L/R channels which have no problem driving the 4 ohm Polk Audio LSi25 in a home theater environment. The newer Marantz runs a bit hot so I also added an Aircom T8 to cool it. The Marantz is one of the best additions to my HT experience since adding 4K.
My reason to go with Denon was, in the Mid/Low price range, your only other option is Onkyo and while I was a huge fan of them, my last 2 receivers both died within a few years. Looking around online a lot of people have had issues with Onkyo too. I almost went with Pioneer until I read that Onkyo merged with them and looking at the rear of the systems the Onkyo and Pioneer look very similar now and I am NOT taking another chance with them. The only other mid/low option was some of Yamaha's line and they're laughable with how little ports they give you. So it came down to Denon by default. I've read mostly good things online, so I'm hopeful. It was pretty easy to set up and the UI is the best I've used for an AVR, but that really isn't saying much, the UI is usually unintuitive.
5 months agoI got my first surround amp Denon x2200w 7.2 with Atmos and dts x. It has zone 1 and 2 option for 200 euro plus Boston acoustics xs 5.1 for 90 euro. These days I am enjoying watching movies with my 5.1.2 setup. I don't know a lot about the amps but I am happy with my Denon. Nice video clip.
Been a long term Sony fan (ES/QS) having used /owned /sold loads of gear over the years. My older AV set up is powered by Yamaha. I have a great CD player from Paul's brand which sounds fantastic. Never brought Denon - came close several times. Strange. 😎😎😎
Yamaha rx-1400 here made in 2003 and still works. Dunno about Marantz or Denon but Yamaha is top notch in reliability and sound quality. For those complaining about the settings , I agree . Its a pain with tons of settings but one you master them, you get best sounding machine ever!!!! My sounds natural not bright not boomy , natural.
Denon is my first recommendation as well, even used back to x1200/x2200. Then x3300/x4200 for the upgraded audyssey and after that the nad t758 v3 with dirac that competes in price with the high end denon and marantz. I had a thing for the marantz 6012, I like the size, look and features, but wound up going with the nad. Menu system is nowhere near the denon/marantz which I would say is another plus for them and the remote isnt on the same level either. Great idea about the late night mode.
I did not listen to all of video but I think that one of the reasons to go Marantz is the slimline series which is perfect for apartments and smaller rooms/offices with a smaller footprint. I still have my 2012 NR-1403 working almost every day and has outlasted many of my friends receivers who used them a lot less. It works well with the 2018 firecube with Alexa
Sorry, but I've tested both denon x4400h and Yamaha a2070 at my home while no noticible difference in movies, there was a big difference in stereo music. Yamaha sounds richer and warmer and with clearer vocals than denon...
May be that your Yamaha is more suited for the speakers than the denon. I had a yamaha that I could change powerampsetting between driving 6 and 8 ohm speakers
I have yet to test out the newer Yamaha reeceivers. I never claimed Denon or Marantz was the best, just that I like them and recommend them. A lot of people seem to like Yamaha. I reached out to them now to look at some of their offerings.
@@joentell if you're long enough in audio (and it seems so) you realize that yamaha makes insane amps. Just take a look at a old c4 pre amp. They cameup with serviceability ideas you would not even believe decades ago already. Not to mention reliable especially in their higher end power amp lineup.
One thing that people often fail to mention especially amongst home theater people and something that me being an audiophile matters highly is sound quality. I've heard a lot of different brands avrs and to me Marantz for music sounds the best. Now I know the home theater people jumped in and say well it's the speakers or it's the room correction or it's this or it's that but I tried a lot of different ones and I keep coming back to Marantz because when I listen to music it just sounds good more close to an actual Hi-Fi amp than anything else.
I have to disagree. I own a Denon AVR-X2300, it replaced a Sony STR-DN1040, and while the Denon has a lot of features (I bought it for the Dolby Atmos compatibility) and it has decent sound, the Sony's sound was better. I'd also recommend people look at Yamaha's offerings. However, no matter who recommends what you're buying to what your ear likes hearing so do some listening tests if you can. BTW, for the price of a Denon x*300 you could buy a PS Audio Sprout 100, which is much better sounding still, but much more limitee on features.
@@joentell besides better sounding for music and films (and for that you'll have to do a listening test to decide if I'm right or not) there's the more modern graphical interface, and using the automated speaker setup is faster, and easier than Audessey's (spelling). It's pretty tough too. I brought it over to a friend's house a few months after I bought it and a friend of his accidentally fell on it and sort of crushed it. I took it to the local Sony authorized repair shop, cost $75 to have the chassis pounded back into shape and electronics checked to be sure I wouldn't electrocute myself and the Sony kept on going and sounding just fine. It still wobbled on a flat surface but a couple pieces of cardboard under one of the feet fixed that. I'd still be using it but Dolby Atmos came out and I wanted the feature. Denon was one of the first to offer Atmos so I bought it and a set of those add-on Atmos cap speakers and liked it. I sold the Sony, told the buyer about its accident, and they still bought it for $200. I ran into the guy a year ago and told him I should have kept it. He loves it. The newest model, the Sony 1080, is the top pick, over the Denon and Marantz, Onkyo, Yamaha, etc over at What Hi-Fi. It has Atmos and all the other bells and whistles. I'll say one thing, if it's in your budget, which will have to be a lot more, check out PS Audio. I had their old Elite Plus, integrated amp that I bought new when it came out in the late 70's or early 80's. It had been sitting in the garage for 20 years and for a lark I brought it in and hooked it up to my system, and it blew the Denon out of the water as far as sound. I ended up selling the PS Audio gear to someone in another state for $500 , he's a genuine golden ear audiophile too, worked with some of the greats, like John Iverson. Anyways, go audition the Sony or if you have deep pockets, the PS Audio. (I've been eyeing their new Sprout 100 integrated amp that's about $500-$600, the same ballpark as the Sony or similar Denon, and going back to listening in stereo, but REALLY GOOD stereo. )
@@dgdave2673 He'd have an easier time getting hold of the latest version that's been around for a couple of years now the STR-DN 1080. A week or two ago they went on sale for one day at under $350. Amazon screwed me up on buying one then.
Agree on Sony but make sure it’s the Sony ES (Elevated Standard) line of products. No doubt Marantz and Denon (D & M Holdings) have got the latest technology built in to their receivers. I still think both the build quality (5 Year Warranty) and the audio of Sony ES is preferred. Hopefully Sony builds a new model to replace the Sony ZA5000ES. The flagship Sony STR-DA5800ES is also fantastic if you don’t require Atmos.
Hi. iPhone/iPad has the app called DeRemote, for both Denon and Marantz . It allows you you to manipulate every speaker and subwoofer individually. And it’s free. From what I can see , it allows for all models. Every model had different features.
because the same company owns nearly them all! aka same company I would say the older Denon AVR made in Japan models built 2000-2005 are the sweet spot
I am currently thinking about getting the Denon 4500, have a very cheap Denon right now (less than $300 new) and it surprisingly sounds very good, need more flexibility with streaming, multi-sub setup, and ability to get into Atmos.
After a ton of research, shopping and analysis; I ended up with the new Sonos 4.1 Amp (Amp&DAC) for my den/man-cave. I paired it with some Schiit autio, Kleptch ceiling speakers, an Emotiva Sub and a Sony X950G TV. Plus a Sony WM1000xm3 & T1 headsets. For a small room; I don't think you can do better... It absolutely rocks.....
@@malinoisnation9392 I really don't know a good sub from a great sub. If someone was going try and save a couple of $, I would recommend getting a cheaper sub first... So, no, I am not familiar with SVS. And, I am not the audiophile I wish I was. I try to learn from others on U of RUclips...
Pioneer AVR s for value for Money.. Powerful,Great sound, great features...All that you mentioned in this video goes apt to Pioneer as well. Eg: VSX LX 303 or 304 9.2 Dolby Atmos, Has Great Features,Power ,Super Signal all at a Price that Denon or Marantz can't even Match to. So I believe it's like For me DENON, MARANTZ, PIONEER,ONKYO N NOW YAMAHA all of them make great AVRs what u choose is a matter of ur liking ....
I recently bought a Marantz M 5005 integrated amp From England and i bought a 110V -220V converter. It has been working well, It cost $500 in the US and $250 overseas. I Love it, I have two small Marantz speakers in the rear and larger Marantz in the front. The ones in the front keep kicking the breaker in the receiver but the rear speakers don't do that.I have swapped channels and still have the problem, that tells me it;s the used big Marantz i have in front are detecting a surge of some sort. If you know a way I can stop them from doing that, I would greatly appreciate it.
Tip: AVRs are like cellphones. There's a new one every 6 months, and the "old" one is suddenly half the price. So it's not that hard to buy used and save like 75%.
Hope what happened to Pioneer/ Onkyo doesn't happen to Denon/ Marantz. So far their buyout hasn't been impactful like it was for Pioneer/ Onkyo. Sad to see these top notch companies get swallowed up. Who's left nowadays? I'm going to hang on to my Pioneer Elite when it was the old Pioneer. It has HDMI 1.4 so I'll keep till it breaks which may be never. I still have Pioneer Kuro plasma. You'd LL never see quality like this ever again. Sucks.
Just had to reply. I’m 58 and on December 10 was in my mancave which had 2 PIONEER ELITE PLASMAS. A PRO 150FD AND PRO 1150 HD + 60 inch PANASONIC ZT60. MY 60 INCH PIONEER? Less than 1700 hours. Plus 12 DEF TECH SPEAKERS and much more. I’m disabled- broken neck in 3 places and 70 -100% paralyzed from chest down. Fire alarms go off and I’m in room over garage. Crawled across floor to door. Flame & smoke everywhere as garage below was start of fire. Made to top of stairs and pulled myself up as floor was giving out. Dove head first down 19 steps -thru smoke, fire, broke 3 ribs -cracked more, knocked completely unconscious- died, saved by fighters- CPR - Chapel Hill Burn Center in aCOMA for 3 weeks and ICU foe 8. Returned to 100% burned down house and ZERO PIONEER, DEF TECH, DENON OR ANY TRACE OF HOME THEATER. HAPPY TO BE ALIVE, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT..... ELITE PLAMAS WERE AWESOME. GREAT VIDEO‼️👍🏼 William ~
I can respect this video for sure, my personal experience with Denon is mostly positive. My Denon AVR has overheating issues despite being in open air after 30 minutes to an hour at 3/4 volume. The Denon AVR would shut down (Thermal) and give me a red blinking light, I could turn the unit back on again after it cooled some and the sound was good... but lacked the punch I desired. I have had experience before with Onkyo and they were JUNK, brand new in the box and hooked up 7.1 speakers I toasted the AVR unit within 3 hours... in the middle of a house party. :( I recently upgraded to a Yamaha RX-A680 (Aventage 7.2) and I'll never buy anything else again, the power and clarity this unit provides was much better than my Denon by leaps and bounds. This pushed my Klipsch speakers to their limits as well, I have plans to add a second Yamaha YST-SW315 to my home theater as well! Love the channel, thanks for the great vid!
Tristan Jones if that were true wouldn’t there be an aftermarket for that sort of thing? I know what the obvious solution is but why release a product that overheats? Just bad design IMO... my Yamaha does just fine, despite it not having any fans.
@@troyfordguy1345 There is an aftermarket. Here is an example. www.acinfinity.com/ Why is there a huge aftermarket for cars and trucks because big cars manufacturers don't want to be bothered with the customer service on those lower ticket items. In a perfect world there would be auxillary fans in the box with the AVR. But that is not the way that business has ever worked.
Manufacturer does not matter when you spend $1000 on a receiver they’re all the same competitive price and features. I’ve sold a Yamaha for years and the main reason is because They are bulletproof service wise.This is not to say that Denon & Marantz don’t make great products as well.
@@joentell Yes, definitely... Please ! and don't get shocked when you experience the pathetic "Stereo Mode" because of the low quality amps used in AVRs in order to compensate the bloatware costs... People need to be informed !
I'm from the sound first, features later school. If I were comparing today I think I would include Parasound. If you are going to build a multi-channel home theater system from a 2- channel start-up, try starting with a really good 2-channel integrated amp with an audio/ video pass-thru. I think you will find a big difference. And if you must have Bluetooth and the amp doesn't include it, you can add an outboard unit at anytime with the advantage of upgrading in the future. One tip. If someone is going to use small main speakers with subwoofers initially, it would be good to choose an amplifier that can block low frequencies going to the main speakers.
Still rocking a Marantz SR7002 I found at Goodwill for $25. With Audyssey and good speakers, it’s a thrift steal!
We don't get such deals here in Canada.
Denon X4400H owner here...I totally agree...absolutely love its features and sound accuracy...from music to home theater....
I just installed a Denon AVR-X2500H for a home theater. Their family enjoys the results of my tweaking the sound through Audessy. It's definitely good value for features and performance.
Got the same receiver. You can switch ohm rating to match speakers.
actually, the x1500h is a better value lolz
@@PaoXiong86 maybe he got it at a special price like most sane people. Lo-stfu
Michael Livingston Audyssey is amazing tech. And my version is ca.2009. Really helps a bad room.
Marntz and denon is it possible to run two AV receiver at once ? Please help me.
Enjoyed the video. After 8-9 years of loving my Onkyo TX-NR609, it's been having HDMI & power-off issues, so looking at my options for a replacement, and Denon is certainly at the top of my list.
same here
Another vote for Yamaha. I've been using them since the 80s.
I had to replace my Onkyo receiver in Jan. 2015, when the power transformer failed. Treated myself to a Marantz SR5007, and have been using that ever since for both movies (7.2 channel) and 2channel stereo for music. To me, it sounds absolutely awesome, and never fails to deliver. I would recommend Marantz to anyone.
Definitely better than the onkyo?
I’ve owned 3 high end Denon Amps and will never buy another one. Two of them blew the HDMI board and the third blew the power supply. The cost to service them was almost as much as buying a new one. Switched to Yamaha 3080 and it’s worked flawlessly for 2.5 years.
I've managed to switch brands everytime I upgrade my AVR. Started with Pioneer, then Onkyo, then Yamaha, and now Marantz. Never owned a Denon so I can't speak to that experience. However, I've been so happy with my Marantz that I'll likely go with them again the next time I upgrade.
Haha, exactly the same here! 😉👍
I did a little research on amplifiers up to $ 1000 and about warming problems like Denon 4000 models and especially the popular 4500 model say it has 9.2 120W channels per channel but the overall amplifier power only TOTAL POWER 600W Make 600: 9 = 66.66666 and one third of them don't take advantage of this
Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Pioneer's all have great budget and high end. I feel its more of an opinion which to choose. I go with Denon user friendly and the lower end Denons are well equipped and sound great. Again its all about what you like.
Well said👍
I’ve owned Denon and Pioneer Elite both are excellent. I even had great luck with Sherwood in the past. I have not had good experience with Onkyo, and neither have people I know that all eventually dumped them for something else. My brother likes Denon and Yamaha, but on the same set of speakers I think his Denon sounded better than the Yamaha he upgraded too for Atmos. Yamaha audio reproduction always seems a little too sharp and bright, not treble heavy, but just focusing more on higher frequencies and muddying the mids, and it can’t be fixed with an equalizer. Might just be a receiver/speaker pairing issue for him.
@@emotionz3 I'm not a fan of Yamaha amps, they sound so thin and light, can get boring after awhile but they do make great sounding speakers and headphones which puts some expensive gear to shame.
Denon was recommend when I was buying my Polk theater system. I am new to this all and it sounds like I made a good choice 🤷🏼♂️
Denon 7.1 receiver AVR X2400H
Polk SS S55 towers.
Polk SS S35 center speaker.
Polk SS S15 bookshelf speakers.
Polk HTS10 Subwoofer.
I use Polk speakers with my Denon Ar791
I use Boston Acoustics , Pioneer and klipsh , It's not necessary to use the same brand on all your speakers , I have the same X2400h if you want an advise use only 5.1 or 5.2 like me and delete the Atmos speakers , in Amp options select zone 2 and then turn off zone 2 what happens , well the denon turn aside all the Amp power to main zone , the volume power increase twice is amazing , and Another advise if you tower has a passive crossover set the volume in -12 , why ? Because you eliminate all the noise and interference of the amplification . See you.
felix flores thank you!
I have a Denon x2400 great Receiver. I just stepped up to the x6500h and full Klipsch RP series 7.2.4 :).
@@felixflores5225 i listened polk T 50 on youtube and i think the sound is not clear in my country the T50 cost 350 euro so maybe its for that the sound is not clear
I bought my Denon tuner and CD player back in the 1980's. Still going strong!
Great stuff!! All that remains of that legacy is the name.
This doesn't only apply to their newer receivers. My father owned a Denon DRA-375RD since the late 90s, last week he gave it to me because he bought a new one. Even though it's now more than 20 years old, the device still works like a charm. The inputs are more than sufficient for my usage and the sound quality is excellent. It still outperforms most of the new, so-called "hifi" receivers from other companies.
I learned something!! 😯 When I get home, I'm gonna make presets!! I hadn't realized that THAT'S what the presets could do!
Thanks @JoeNTell
Excellent video as always. I hit Joe up on Patreon a few months ago looking for some advice and he recommended a Denon AVR over a cheaper option I was looking at it and said “buy once, cry once”. Very wise words from the master. Loving my Denon so far.
I am an Anthem guy, but I am in Canada. It's nice to get deals on the odd thing here and there.
Anthem and Paradigm are great together ;)
Hi, Anthem and Paradigm are a perfect match! However, Denon receivers match up perfectly with Paradigm as well. It all comes down how much one wants to spend.
Are you kidding me? I'm in Canada too but I own YAMAHA and SVS and you can get deals on many products not just those made in Canada.
"I am an Anthem guy, but I am in Canada." I am an YAMAHA guy, but I am in Japan 😂
@@thegoat164 calm yourself dude.
Perhaps getting cost helps me too, or will that upset you too?
@behexen250
Electronics Anthem:
Manufactured in Mississauga, Ontario (and Vietnam)
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I have Yamaha. Love their quality parts and natural sound at lower price. I have almost all these options you have mentioned in the Video. Thank you
Same. Denon & Marantz are great, but it's Yamaha Aventage for me.👌
@@thomasfox8027 Totally agree, I have 3 Aventage receivers in three rooms of my house. They are amazing and have all the features I will need for quite awhile.
Thomas Fox But YAMAHA sound quality for music is so terrible
I just reviewed the Yamaha A-S501 and I love it for music!
@@niupizhu6566 sorry but I will have to disagree with that bold statement you just made
I have a Denon 1912 that sounds great and is still going strong after 7 years of constant use.
I just recently upgraded from a Pioneer sc-lx501 to a Denon 4500h and I could not believe the difference in sound clarity and imaging. I have a 5.2.2 system with in-wall Polk audio LCI-RTS105 speakers with SVS dual subs in a mid-sized room. They are older thx certified with 250 watt 92db sensativity 4 ohm speakers. The Denon seems to have brought them out to life! I am now a Denon fan!
Very clear and to the point explanation. Thanks for that. I myself have a Denon and they sound cleaner than most other receivers I've tried.
i also have a denon receiver so true the sound is very cleaner
running a dsp a2 and 3 pair of bw 302 supported with 2 mk sb8 almost 20 years now and never thought about to replace any part of it . still sounds awesome and works flawlessly
Yamaha for me. Quality parts. 12 years on my current 7.1
I have a Sony 5.1 that I bought in 1999 and its now my garage with a 5 disk carousel cd player. Crazy it all still works even after the last 6 years in a dusty hot garage.
SONY STR-DA1200ES,like a tank!
Same here. I bought in into musiccast so I am committed for a long time.
I always hear the highest praise for Yamaha and Sony.
YAMAHA for me as well, #1 for reliability and I've had mine for 12 years now and I'm betting it still works 10 years from now.
I bought a refurbished Onkyo TX NR656 about a year ago. It was about $225 USD and it’s 7.2 . It has all the features I need, including some I don’t, like ATMOS.
What you didn’t speak of is sound signature. Yamaha, for example, traditionally has a more “rolled off” upper mid and high range, which is less punchy and perceived as more “warm”. Onkyo was and still is more punchy and upfront sounding, on average.
I think the Denon sound signature is more punchy now also- similar to Onkyo. Sony would be in that category now too. It would be good to speak to this topic rather than only what features they have. Also in how to match them with certain speaker brands, which are all slightly different.
I like, for example, the more punchy and up-front sound signature with no rolled off highs. Not everyone will like that, however.
As such, I have mostly Klipsch R series speakers (base model, but far better than the old Ikon/Synergy line) running off my Onkyo, and am very pleased.
Both Denon and Marantz provide great quality into the entry level of hifi. I own a Marantz amp and it sounds silky smooth. I have never heard it strain to produce good levels of hifil sound. Before AV receivers, I owned a Denon 100 watt receive. It sounded great!
So they are entry-level for a wipe and audiophobic snob
I guess Bose is for first grade...
My older denons do pretty much everything you mentioned. From 2010 and 2012. And were dirt cheap used. In total I have 5 denon avr's and love em all. Denon and marantz for life.
Denon and Marantz are my fav for stereo music listening. Well done vid!
Pioneer, Marantz, Denon, and Onkyo, are all owned by the same company.
Recently upgraded from Marantz SR8012 AV Receiver to Marantz AV8805 Pre/Pro pairing with Emotiva power amp and my goodness...It’s a DREAM
Our Little Cakery I’ve done the same thing using an Emotiva amp with a Marantz AV8801. Amazing sound quality
Last month upgarded from a onkyo txrz610 to a Marantz SR6013, huge difference, Marantz is a amazing avr..Running Fluance Signature series HT with SVS prime elevation for Atmos & dual fluance DB12 12"Subs. Auddsey sounds better off for me.
Mike Z-HT must be your setup, I need Audessy on
@@lusly258 Everyone ears are totally different, its definitely not my setup! I read on AVS forum & other places ,people like the sound better off & then on..
i have auddsey on all the time for 4 k and blu-ray moves, i just love the sound of atmos and dtx is fantastic with auddsey on and atmos to with crystal clear sound.
Lots of these qualities seem pretty common with most modern receivers. That being said my next receiver may be a Denon. Onkyo used to have great FM tuners and were very durable. So I recently bought a Onkyo 5 disc CD player from the Best Buy showroom--but it starts skipping about 19 minutes into a disc. Years ago I bought a $1,000 Denon 5.1 receiver after about 10 years, it developed a noisy channel. Driving a 4ohm speaker is important to me too. Waiting to see what the HDMI 2.1 implementation is on 2020 receivers.
Most of the 11 reasons are also found in other brands, aren't they?
Anyway, good informative video nonetheless. :)
I think you’re absolutely right. I just picked up a AVR-x8500h for $2,500.00 bucks! An open box return. Score! I love it. I’ve also got a Marantz NR1607 for my bedroom. I love it also. I understand, Sound United just completed their purchase of “Onkyo, Interga, and Pioneer.” All of a sudden, no one can compare. I bet they all end up with Audisey. You think?
I didn't even think about it, but you're right. They might all have Audyssey. I do like competition though. I hope Dirac and ARC makes their pricing more competitive so consumers might find them in less expensive models. I saw Dirac on an NAD T 758 V3 AVR and I was surprised it was "only" $1299.
Joe N Tell absolutely. The NAD is a nice machine, however, for the money, I believe that I bought the best receiver money can buy, based on features. On screen display and stuff.(AVR-x8500h) I have been a long time Pioneer fan. But even they can’t touch “Denon,Marantz “. Until now that they are all owned by “Sound United “. I love your channel Joe. You and Technodad. You’re my guys. Along with audioholoics and youthman.
Used to have a Marantz years ago. Now I have a monster Yamaha surround sound receiver.
hi, im a proud owner of the Denon X4100w too.. been using it since 2014 :).. when you mention that you are using the same receiver as mine, it really put a smile on my face.
Great AVR
@@y0ng1988 I too have bought this Avr for 350,two years ago . When connected to front q acoustics 2050 ,and rear IQ intelligent level 3, floor standing (German 90’s) speakers and pioneer Sw8 mk2 sub, shake neighbour walls lol, but why rear are always more silent than front, shouldn’t tey equally be loud.
I have the Denon AVR-X6500H and it’s amazing. Best receiver I’ve ever had!
i got mine last weekend
mike schneider nice! How do you like it so far?
@@T-eee-L i havnt ran audyssey eq yet, been busy. but yes i love it. i owned a denon avr4311ci before for 12 years, so im always a fan of denon.
I got mine 2 weeks ago.
My 7 channel Onkyo TX-NR737 (before HDR support) was my first "real" home audio system. It was amazing! I first tried to upgrade to the latest (9 channel) Onkyo RZ830 and I returned it for various reasons. I ended up getting a Denon AVR-X4400H and like it too. I think the Onkyos sound better for 2 channel audio, but do not handle surround sound as well. The Denon seems to produce more sound in various surround sound modes. The Onkyos seem to produce a better phantom image and sound stage, especially the RZ830. That had a great 2 channel sound. Sticking with Denon and am considering getting some separate higher end mono amplifiers (PS Audio Stellar) to power my mains.
(Sound United is the parent company for all of these brands.) Onkyo's are regularly are rated for 4 Ohms as well.
it would be great to have an updated version of this video! Thank you for the great info
Had Yamaha since i bought the Yamaha dsp a592!!! Always played with the others but never left Yamaha. I feel Yamaha always sounds more complete especially in surround sound.
Yamaha will always be my favorite brand of receivers
Hi, Yamaha receivers are great! But, its how one matches them correctly with the right speaker packages. My experience with Yamaha receivers has been when they are match with Klipsch Reference speakers, the sound is amazing for both movies and music.
@@avg0062
YAMAHA matched with SVS Ultras😉
I started out with a realistic vintage receiver that I still use and think it sounds great. Recently I went to the local thrift store and found a denon AVR-S730H for 40 bucks. I plugged it in and it powered on so I took the gamble. Brought it home and everything works fine on it. This is the first modern receiver I’ve owned and I was surprised by all the options and features. I have all my gaming consoles and Blu-ray running through it. Sometimes I’ll even hook up my turntable when I’m getting bored of the realistic receiver. I don’t see myself upgrading anytime soon since I’m satisfied by its performance. All your points made here I find to be true.
I still use my Yamaha rxv-2200 17 years old still sounds great 6.1 100watts per channel
I have the Marantz 6012 because it was cheaper than the Denon 4400 at the time I bought. The main reason for me going Denon/Marantz was the ability to limit room correction to only below the Schroeder frequency, which are the only frequencies where room correction provides a benefit. The only other systems that allow this are expensive, high end processors.
Yamaha forever for me. I've been buying low and high end yamaha's and they have always worked perfect and never failed.
me 2, but yamaha UI sucks big time.
Okay but the price difference is huge. I bought the Denon 4500h. If I want the same I need to buy a the Yamaha 2080. Price is insane.
Yes yamaha and Polk audio nice match
Yamaha,really!?
Just bought a new Denon avr- x- 1600 7.2. Channel. Can't wait to get it . I love the surround sound systems. Listen to mainly rock. Came from the days of the first 4 channel surround sound. It was called quad in the 1970s.
I’ve had various high end Denon and Yamaha amps. I just prefer the sound of Denon every time. Currently using an AVR 4520 I picked up several years ago and couldn’t be happier.
What did you notice was the difference in sound? It's tough to explain I know.
Peetiegonzalez
Absolutely correct!
I’ve done careful sound quality comparisons between certain brands,
Denon beats Yamaha
every time, and for years now.
Joe N Tell
In my many receiver sound quality comparisons over many years, with all neutral tone settings,
the Yamaha’s were consistently brighter,
more forward,
usually less/lower reproduction of bass,
giving a thinner sound.
(This is their reputation also, it’s well known.
So people who like more emphasis on highs/treble response go for Yamaha.)
Denon and Marantz are known
for more solid, thick,
meaty bass,
and a warmer sound,
(while still being
open and clear in the highs.)
This is what I like,
so I’ve had Denon for a long time.
I’d love to know more about how
Denon/Marantz
compare to
Onkyo and NAD
in terms of signature sound/
brand sound characteristics.
@@joentell It is tough to quantify. Especially as I formed my opinion unscientifically several years ago and have stuck with Denon since. I wasn't blind testing, either, just switching the whole system out and using for days at a time. I just got the impression the Yamaha sound was a bit 'flat', compared to the Denon's more fuller sound. With Gallo Nucleus ref. speakers back in the day, I also felt the Denon offered a much clearer soundstage. Since I've stuck to speakers with decent tweeters and top-of-the-range Denon amps, (I used to pick them up used for a fraction of their original price as each new model came out with an extra codec or two, the high-end crowd would upgrade and dump their 1-gen-old $3,000 model for a few hundred bucks.) I haven't needed a centre speaker. People don't believe me at first when I tell them that, when they can clearly hear voices/instruments (seemingly) coming right out of the TV screen.
May be the other way around if you had different speakers, but great youve found a combination that rocks👍
I've got the Marantz SR 7015 running tannoy eclipse three towes and eclipse mini speaker set up and it sounds great... Kicks the guts out of my old Sony receiver
I love my Marantz SR7012. No regrets with that purchase.
I actually went with a Pioneer receiver, one of the class D amplifier models for my home theater system. The efficiency of the amp helps tremendously when placed in a cabinet or a smaller area as they won't get heat soaked as they put out much less heat than conventional class AB amps. Class D is also more energy efficient which helps when receivers are on for long periods of time.
To me the amplifier is what sold me on Pioneer. Others have different priorities. Luckily we have many good choices out there.
My last recent years experience is Denon used to be built much better than last 10 years! Marantz? Not a problem.
On budget n lower price points, i think onkyo may be better value. Although u never had any issue, at the price points, with Denons sound quality!
must be different here in Australia my good friend bought an S720W and had it fail out of the box, took it back to the shop, replaced it and had the next one fail straight out of the box … he now owns Onkio and loves it
Speakers have impedance not resistance as it varies with frequency. I have had two Denon AV receivers. I currenly have an AVR-X2400H and love it. It went up £200 after I bought it.
Mande a comprar un Denon AVR-X2400H a Amazon , todavia lo recibo.
Also not a mention of Sony and Yamaha, Yamaha manufacture a lot of the surround decoder ICs.
Just bought a Denon receiver to run a pair of speakers in my sunroom, and power two more out on the deck. I use it primarily for audio but really like the idea of having something that can grow over time and handle mostly everything I throw at it. Only have had it two weeks, but am loving it so far. Amazing tech for the price.
Thanks for the tips on presets. I will try it on the demon remote app. Yes the Denon Audyssey Multi EQ app is awesome. It made a big difference for me after room correction. It's a long microphone calibration time but it's worth the wait.
It does take a while to do the initial calibration. Totally worth it for me. Let me know how the presets go.
i have surround speakers SB-AFC140 from Technics ,in a set with surround reciever (all from 2002) ,2 years ago the reciever start to fail, i replaced
it and have a marantz now, you won't believe how the speakers sound now, 10 times better ,and if you think they cant handle the power, you wold be suprised,because they are sattelite speakers, i have also 2 yamaha powered subs, ns-sw300 (X2) ,next thing i'll buy know are the new towerspeakers from technics SB-G90 and a marantz amp MM7025 , 2 MM7055 and the AV8805, online i find 6 more of technics sattelite speakers SB-AFC140 ,now ik have 11 in total, and i know it will sound the way i like to hear it, i was amazed how 17 year old speakers sound with todays amps an AV's .... Marantz and technics ... the perfect combination
Yamaha will stay and be a good brand, when it comes to avr yamaha wont fail you, good quality parts and tech same goes to denon...you wont go wrong with denon and yamaha.
Yamaha's always seemed to have good clean detailed , dynamic, uncolored sounding preamp sections, with good processing. it's the amplifier sections that could use some refinement! Pairing Yammies with outboard power amps are the way to go, imo
If you appreciate any form of music, you'll return that denon as fast as fk
@@alexanderscott3790 That's 100% true statement !
As far as customer support goes, Yamaha is a class act.
Henrik John I would agree... when I was comparing the Denon and Marantz side by side the Marantz had so much more dynamic expression for music. It was a lot more lively than the Denon
Had a Yamaha unit for over ten years. Worked like a charm. Decided to upgrade due to the need of more hdmi inputs. Got a middle of the pack Onkyo... A month in a half in and the unit is already displaying grave issues.
I got the Beast From the East! AVR-X8500H . Love it
My goodness! Beast is right!!!
Is not think like that best if you like it and you wont playing extra is your many
Me too, in silver and it's beautiful.
@@mordimeshita1754???WTF
My wife had a Marantz Stereo receiver, I have had a Denon A/V receiver and DVD/CD player. Both receivers did not last past 10 years of moderate use before they failed permanently. My Denon DVD/CD player packed it in by the 5th year with even less moderate use.
I just had my Yamaha RXV1000 receiver break down last year. That was 17 years of very satisfied service. Of course I replaced it with a RX-A1070. At this level all Yamaha, Denon, Marantz, Onkyo and Pioneer Elite receivers sound great. Some may differ with features but I believe nobody manufacturers better quality and durability than Yamaha.
I've had a lot of denon amps and I feel you need to buy one of the top two models in the range to get any real power. I still use my AVC-A1SR THX amp for music, this is a beast, but for home cinema I bought a second hand Pioneer Sc-LX85 for about £300 which is a far better solution than a low end Denon albeit minus the atmos decoder which I wouldn't use.
We 2 Marantz Receivers the SR5600 11 years old & SR8500 9 years old. My Wife loves it! ❤ Thanks!
Gotta love them presets!!!
You know!!!!
I just got the Yamaha rx-a3080 to replace my Marantz sr6008. why does the Yamaha sound so low? I have to crank the volume really high, the sr6008 sounds louder.
@@guanaco1626 Cheap amplifier cheep power supply TOTAL power is no higher is limit
I have a Marantz sr7012 and I am impressed! Such smooth sound! Put it this way Marantz receivers sing to me while many other brands scream at me! Smooth!
PS Great Video. Well done and informative
I like the 4 volt preouts on the Denon. Drive any amp.
I’ve owned many receivers in the past, here’s my top favorites (in order):
1. Marantz
2. Denon
3. Yamaha
That’s it !
I use my 1973 Marantz 19 everyday. Built like a tank.
My 10 year old Marantz lost its audio a couple weeks ago, and evidenced symptoms over the past few years. This was my first Marantz product. It does not strike me that they're built like tanks any more.
I have a marantz SR19 since 2001. It's still working but I want a new receiver for HDMI hookup
The old receivers are basically good as integrated amps. Tuners are gone. Outlaw makes a great receiver with lots of power and I think it has HDMI which is rare in a stereo receiver. But if you want multi-channel, receivers are most common. Be sure it has full pre-outs so you can connect an external amp.Gene at Audioholics tests receivers and has found that some do not have full output voltages at their pre-out jacks. Watch his videos.
I have had a Denon 1613 for years and love it. I am slowly upgrading my watching area, new Andrew Jones 5.1 are on their way, and eventually a new AVR to support Atmos, but this is a multi year project for me. But when the time comes it will be another Denon or Marantz
I have the X1300W which was Denon's entry level atmos, dtsx receiver back in 2016 which gives a great bang for your buck with movies, not so good with 2 channel (Direct) stereo for music though, so for lossles music audio i use the centre spread option.
My Marantz SR8200 is almost 20 years old and is amazing still.
I must have missed something everything you talked about is general stuff about all AV receivers, so what's so special about denon and marantz? Is it there technology, circuit topology, better components, features that are star lights ahead of other manufacturers?
I agree. This video tells me nothing. Other than he is probably sponsored by Denon and Marantz. I am in the market to replace my 9 year old Denon AVR-1612. I won’t be getting another Denon.
#1) Not sponsored. We're REQUIRED to state that.
#2) Your Denon lasted 9 years. Why don't you like it?
@@joentell Hey Joe I like most of your videos, just wasn't impressed with this one and agreed with Shannon.
As for #2, yes it lasted 9 years. The reason I won't be getting another one I experienced a poor warranty situation early on. There was also a time that it randomly lost all of my setup requiring reprogramming and recalibration. As of today it is working fine, but I want to try another brand for my next AVR.
@@TurtleBones You accused me of being sponsored on this video which is incorrect.
I have proudly done some in the past for other companies and plan on doing sponsored videos in future. I always mention when that's the case. I have actually never even done a review of a Sound United product as of now.
I just want to set the record straight on that. I'm saying I like Denon and Marantz because I've personally had good experiences with them.
Guess what my next video is? A Yamaha receiver...and I really like it. So this was not meant to be exclusive to Marantz and Denon. It's reasons why I like them, not why I don't like others.
@@joentell you already said that
I've had multiple brands of receivers over the years from Yamaha, 3 generations of Denon (when they were beastly and made in Japan), Onkyo and latest is Marantz. Agree on most and really enjoy my D&M, except for handling 4 ohm speakers. On my old Denon AVR-4802, had trouble with 4ohms loads and its gone in to protection mode/shutdown. I've upgraded to a Marantz and an outboard McIntosh Amp for the front L/R channels which have no problem driving the 4 ohm Polk Audio LSi25 in a home theater environment. The newer Marantz runs a bit hot so I also added an Aircom T8 to cool it. The Marantz is one of the best additions to my HT experience since adding 4K.
Anthem receivers and the new Arc Genesis is fantastic
Must be nice to be a baller. 😉
My reason to go with Denon was, in the Mid/Low price range, your only other option is Onkyo and while I was a huge fan of them, my last 2 receivers both died within a few years. Looking around online a lot of people have had issues with Onkyo too. I almost went with Pioneer until I read that Onkyo merged with them and looking at the rear of the systems the Onkyo and Pioneer look very similar now and I am NOT taking another chance with them.
The only other mid/low option was some of Yamaha's line and they're laughable with how little ports they give you.
So it came down to Denon by default. I've read mostly good things online, so I'm hopeful. It was pretty easy to set up and the UI is the best I've used for an AVR, but that really isn't saying much, the UI is usually unintuitive.
Did your tried Pioneer Elite AVR 901/801/701 ? with there Class D amp is way way better than any AVR in the whole market
Correct. I have a pioneer elite receiver myself. They are the best ones in my opinion
i have the elite vsx84txsi 140 per channel thx rated, 7.1 hdmi..i love mine too!
Agreed, i have the Pioneer Elite sc-79 flagship model, clean sound. The others brands are good too, why isnt Pioneer given a shoutout? 🤔
5 months agoI got my first surround amp Denon x2200w 7.2 with Atmos and dts x. It has zone 1 and 2 option for 200 euro plus Boston acoustics xs 5.1 for 90 euro. These days I am enjoying watching movies with my 5.1.2 setup. I don't know a lot about the amps but I am happy with my Denon. Nice video clip.
Love my Marantz SR-5010!
Been a long term Sony fan (ES/QS) having used /owned /sold loads of gear over the years. My older AV set up is powered by Yamaha. I have a great CD player from Paul's brand which sounds fantastic. Never brought Denon - came close several times. Strange. 😎😎😎
Im running a denon x4500h with monolith 7x 200 amp i only have 7.2.2 setup right now but its awesome
I'm upgrading my gear and am looking into that same setup but can't decide between the Denon or Marantz.
@@IrishNomad its owned by the same company now denon so you are good either way
I got my 7.3.4 running now .3 is 2 12 R-112SW and a polk 10
@@godhand6510 True. The Marantz has the HDAM boards for better sounding preamps but the Denon has more power.
@@godhand6510 What is your room size?
Used to be a Pioneer guy but I’ve converted to Denon and I’ll be a Denon guy for life. Running the Denon AVR-X6500, beast!
Fun Fact- The Company Owns Denon and Marantz now owns Pioneer and ONKYO.
Correct
Yamaha rx-1400 here made in 2003 and still works. Dunno about Marantz or Denon but Yamaha is top notch in reliability and sound quality. For those complaining about the settings , I agree . Its a pain with tons of settings but one you master them, you get best sounding machine ever!!!! My sounds natural not bright not boomy , natural.
Denon is my first recommendation as well, even used back to x1200/x2200. Then x3300/x4200 for the upgraded audyssey and after that the nad t758 v3 with dirac that competes in price with the high end denon and marantz.
I had a thing for the marantz 6012, I like the size, look and features, but wound up going with the nad. Menu system is nowhere near the denon/marantz which I would say is another plus for them and the remote isnt on the same level either.
Great idea about the late night mode.
I forgot to mention the menu system. I guess I've been spoiled for a while.
I did not listen to all of video but I think that one of the reasons to go Marantz is the slimline series which is perfect for apartments and smaller rooms/offices with a smaller footprint. I still have my 2012 NR-1403 working almost every day and has outlasted many of my friends receivers who used them a lot less. It works well with the 2018 firecube with Alexa
Sorry, but I've tested both denon x4400h and Yamaha a2070 at my home while no noticible difference in movies, there was a big difference in stereo music. Yamaha sounds richer and warmer and with clearer vocals than denon...
May be that your Yamaha is more suited for the speakers than the denon. I had a yamaha that I could change powerampsetting between driving 6 and 8 ohm speakers
I have yet to test out the newer Yamaha reeceivers. I never claimed Denon or Marantz was the best, just that I like them and recommend them. A lot of people seem to like Yamaha. I reached out to them now to look at some of their offerings.
@@joentell if you're long enough in audio (and it seems so) you realize that yamaha makes insane amps. Just take a look at a old c4 pre amp. They cameup with serviceability ideas you would not even believe decades ago already. Not to mention reliable especially in their higher end power amp lineup.
One thing that people often fail to mention especially amongst home theater people and something that me being an audiophile matters highly is sound quality. I've heard a lot of different brands avrs and to me Marantz for music sounds the best. Now I know the home theater people jumped in and say well it's the speakers or it's the room correction or it's this or it's that but I tried a lot of different ones and I keep coming back to Marantz because when I listen to music it just sounds good more close to an actual Hi-Fi amp than anything else.
I have to disagree. I own a Denon AVR-X2300, it replaced a Sony STR-DN1040, and while the Denon has a lot of features (I bought it for the Dolby Atmos compatibility) and it has decent sound, the Sony's sound was better. I'd also recommend people look at Yamaha's offerings. However, no matter who recommends what you're buying to what your ear likes hearing so do some listening tests if you can.
BTW, for the price of a Denon x*300 you could buy a PS Audio Sprout 100, which is much better sounding still, but much more limitee on features.
I've never owned a Sony AVR. What do you like better about it?
@@joentell besides better sounding for music and films (and for that you'll have to do a listening test to decide if I'm right or not) there's the more modern graphical interface, and using the automated speaker setup is faster, and easier than Audessey's (spelling). It's pretty tough too. I brought it over to a friend's house a few months after I bought it and a friend of his accidentally fell on it and sort of crushed it. I took it to the local Sony authorized repair shop, cost $75 to have the chassis pounded back into shape and electronics checked to be sure I wouldn't electrocute myself and the Sony kept on going and sounding just fine. It still wobbled on a flat surface but a couple pieces of cardboard under one of the feet fixed that. I'd still be using it but Dolby Atmos came out and I wanted the feature. Denon was one of the first to offer Atmos so I bought it and a set of those add-on Atmos cap speakers and liked it. I sold the Sony, told the buyer about its accident, and they still bought it for $200. I ran into the guy a year ago and told him I should have kept it. He loves it. The newest model, the Sony 1080, is the top pick, over the Denon and Marantz, Onkyo, Yamaha, etc over at What Hi-Fi. It has Atmos and all the other bells and whistles. I'll say one thing, if it's in your budget, which will have to be a lot more, check out PS Audio. I had their old Elite Plus, integrated amp that I bought new when it came out in the late 70's or early 80's. It had been sitting in the garage for 20 years and for a lark I brought it in and hooked it up to my system, and it blew the Denon out of the water as far as sound. I ended up selling the PS Audio gear to someone in another state for $500 , he's a genuine golden ear audiophile too, worked with some of the greats, like John Iverson.
Anyways, go audition the Sony or if you have deep pockets, the PS Audio. (I've been eyeing their new Sprout 100 integrated amp that's about $500-$600, the same ballpark as the Sony or similar Denon, and going back to listening in stereo, but REALLY GOOD stereo. )
Joe N Tell - you should review the Sony STR DN1040 - it is very good and better for Music.
@@dgdave2673 He'd have an easier time getting hold of the latest version that's been around for a couple of years now the STR-DN 1080. A week or two ago they went on sale for one day at under $350. Amazon screwed me up on buying one then.
Agree on Sony but make sure it’s the Sony ES (Elevated Standard) line of products. No doubt Marantz and Denon (D & M Holdings) have got the latest technology built in to their receivers. I still think both the build quality (5 Year Warranty) and the audio of Sony ES is preferred. Hopefully Sony builds a new model to replace the Sony ZA5000ES. The flagship Sony STR-DA5800ES is also fantastic if you don’t require Atmos.
Hi. iPhone/iPad has the app called DeRemote, for both Denon and Marantz . It allows you you to manipulate every speaker and subwoofer individually. And it’s free. From what I can see , it allows for all models. Every model had different features.
Onkyo have ..Bi-amp/2nd zone feature ...uniquely ...
Best for Front big speakers with bi amp ...
7.1+Bi amp
hi joe, best avr brand in order for music. example 1 yamaha 2 marantz 3 pioneer 4 onkyo 5 denon. id like to see your top 5.
because the same company owns nearly them all! aka same company
I would say the older Denon AVR made in Japan models built 2000-2005 are the sweet spot
Depressing but true. :/
no 4k some don't have hdmi either but your right but I'd say pre 2k
I am currently thinking about getting the Denon 4500, have a very cheap Denon right now (less than $300 new) and it surprisingly sounds very good, need more flexibility with streaming, multi-sub setup, and ability to get into Atmos.
Anthem??? Their MRX line is EXCELLENT.
Hell Yeah!!
After a ton of research, shopping and analysis; I ended up with the new Sonos 4.1 Amp (Amp&DAC) for my den/man-cave. I paired it with some Schiit autio, Kleptch ceiling speakers, an Emotiva Sub and a Sony X950G TV. Plus a Sony WM1000xm3 & T1 headsets. For a small room; I don't think you can do better... It absolutely rocks.....
That's awesome that you found something that works for you!
Did you check out svs subs?
@@malinoisnation9392 I really don't know a good sub from a great sub. If someone was going try and save a couple of $, I would recommend getting a cheaper sub first... So, no, I am not familiar with SVS. And, I am not the audiophile I wish I was. I try to learn from others on U of RUclips...
Check out my Subwoofer Shootout video if you haven't already. I've heard good things about RSL but I haven't tested them yet. And Monoprice Monolith
Hey Joe, have you tried monolith 15 subwoofers? I would love your take on those.
Also the ultimax 18
I would love to test out both of those.
Ultimax 18 is a beast. Depending on the enclosure your going to use, make sure you have a good amount of room to let it breath.
Pioneer AVR s for value for Money.. Powerful,Great sound, great features...All that you mentioned in this video goes apt to Pioneer as well.
Eg: VSX LX 303 or 304 9.2 Dolby Atmos, Has Great Features,Power ,Super Signal all at a Price that Denon or Marantz can't even Match to. So I believe it's like
For me DENON, MARANTZ, PIONEER,ONKYO N NOW YAMAHA all of them make great AVRs what u choose is a matter of ur liking ....
Denon and Marantz are owned by the same company.
I recently bought a Marantz M 5005 integrated amp From England and i bought a 110V -220V converter. It has been working well, It cost $500 in the US and $250 overseas. I Love it, I have two small Marantz speakers in the rear and larger Marantz in the front. The ones in the front keep kicking the breaker in the receiver but the rear speakers don't do that.I have swapped channels and still have the problem, that tells me it;s the used big Marantz i have in front are detecting a surge of some sort. If you know a way I can stop them from doing that, I would greatly appreciate it.
Tip: AVRs are like cellphones. There's a new one every 6 months, and the "old" one is suddenly half the price. So it's not that hard to buy used and save like 75%.
Which is why I have what is basically a stereo receiver.
I got an old Denon, 1080p, 5.1 24/192khz on all channels, for like 100$.
I agree.....always used Denon, but, you can add Yamaha to this.
Hope what happened to Pioneer/ Onkyo doesn't happen to Denon/ Marantz. So far their buyout hasn't been impactful like it was for Pioneer/ Onkyo. Sad to see these top notch companies get swallowed up. Who's left nowadays? I'm going to hang on to my Pioneer Elite when it was the old Pioneer. It has HDMI 1.4 so I'll keep till it breaks which may be never. I still have Pioneer Kuro plasma. You'd LL never see quality like this ever again. Sucks.
Onyko and Pioneer just got bought by sound United maybe their quality will go up now.
Similar situation. I'm running the Pioneer Elite VSX-50. It's been very good to me.
Just had to reply. I’m 58 and on December 10 was in my mancave which had 2 PIONEER ELITE PLASMAS. A PRO 150FD AND PRO 1150 HD + 60 inch PANASONIC ZT60. MY 60 INCH PIONEER? Less than 1700 hours. Plus 12 DEF TECH SPEAKERS and much more. I’m disabled- broken neck in 3 places and 70 -100% paralyzed from chest down. Fire alarms go off and I’m in room over garage. Crawled across floor to door. Flame & smoke everywhere as garage below was start of fire. Made to top of stairs and pulled myself up as floor was giving out. Dove head first down 19 steps -thru smoke, fire, broke 3 ribs -cracked more, knocked completely unconscious- died, saved by fighters- CPR - Chapel Hill Burn Center in aCOMA for 3 weeks and ICU foe 8. Returned to 100% burned down house and ZERO PIONEER, DEF TECH, DENON OR ANY TRACE OF HOME THEATER. HAPPY TO BE ALIVE, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT..... ELITE PLAMAS WERE AWESOME. GREAT VIDEO‼️👍🏼
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I can respect this video for sure, my personal experience with Denon is mostly positive. My Denon AVR has overheating issues despite being in open air after 30 minutes to an hour at 3/4 volume. The Denon AVR would shut down (Thermal) and give me a red blinking light, I could turn the unit back on again after it cooled some and the sound was good... but lacked the punch I desired. I have had experience before with Onkyo and they were JUNK, brand new in the box and hooked up 7.1 speakers I toasted the AVR unit within 3 hours... in the middle of a house party. :( I recently upgraded to a Yamaha RX-A680 (Aventage 7.2) and I'll never buy anything else again, the power and clarity this unit provides was much better than my Denon by leaps and bounds. This pushed my Klipsch speakers to their limits as well, I have plans to add a second Yamaha YST-SW315 to my home theater as well! Love the channel, thanks for the great vid!
Which model Denon was it?
Joe N Tell I actually still have it, the model is an AVR-1315. Of course spec wise I think the Yamaha is better because it’s newer.
You should have a fan for any receiver or amplifier. It will help your components perform optimally and last much longer.
Tristan Jones if that were true wouldn’t there be an aftermarket for that sort of thing? I know what the obvious solution is but why release a product that overheats? Just bad design IMO... my Yamaha does just fine, despite it not having any fans.
@@troyfordguy1345 There is an aftermarket. Here is an example. www.acinfinity.com/
Why is there a huge aftermarket for cars and trucks because big cars manufacturers don't want to be bothered with the customer service on those lower ticket items. In a perfect world there would be auxillary fans in the box with the AVR. But that is not the way that business has ever worked.
Manufacturer does not matter when you spend $1000 on a receiver they’re all the same competitive price and features.
I’ve sold a Yamaha for years and the main reason is because They are bulletproof service wise.This is not to say that Denon & Marantz don’t make great products as well.
I want to review some newer Yamaha stuff.
@@joentell Yes, definitely... Please !
and don't get shocked when you experience the pathetic "Stereo Mode" because of the low quality amps used in AVRs in order to compensate the bloatware costs... People need to be informed !
Is stereo mode bypassing all of the DSP?
@@joentell Hahahaa... that was an epic shot ! :)
? I'm just curious if it works like pure direct mode
I'm from the sound first, features later school. If I were comparing today I think I would include Parasound. If you are going to build a multi-channel home theater system from a 2- channel start-up, try starting with a really good 2-channel integrated amp with an audio/ video pass-thru. I think you will find a big difference.
And if you must have Bluetooth and the amp doesn't include it, you can add an outboard unit at anytime with the advantage of upgrading in the future.
One tip. If someone is going to use small main speakers with subwoofers initially, it would be good to choose an amplifier that can block low frequencies going to the main speakers.