If Your Vinyl Plank has Attached Pad | Do You NEED More Pad?
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- 0If Your Vinyl Plank has Attached Pad - Do You NEED More Pad?
This is a very common question. In this video, I will share all of the Pro's and Con's of using an additional pad, under a Plank that has an attached pad.
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Time Stamps -
0:00 Introduction
Pro's and Con's
0:31 Moisture Protection
1:19 Hides Imperfections
02:55 Allows movement
05:11 Sound Deadening
07:11 Causes Stress on Locking System
07:37 How Pad Affects Locking System - Drop and Lock/Angle to Angle
10:22 advice on Angle to Angle Installation
11:58 Best Pad to Use Under Vinyl Plank
13:45 Run down of Pro's and Con's
15:02 Prayer and Blessing for you 
Хобби
Dude! That's the first time, I had someone pray for me after a diy video. Continue to shine your light before men....Your floor installation channel is one of the best out there if not the top in my humble opinion. Thanks and...Amen!
Ok floor and decor optimax install directions say to lay down black 6mil poly if vinyl planks are to be installed below grade along with 1mm pad. Old laminate floor never had issues. What is your opinion. Thankyou for everything!
With no poly . Sorry
Why you blowing this dude?
Joe, your channel is by far the best I have viewed on flooring. Also, and possibly even more important, when you humbly but boldly profess faith and pray for us, that is powerful. You are being a light in this world, a world that needs men like you showing others the way…you are a blessing in many ways to many people. You inspire me brother. Thank you!
Joe, great video! Thank you for the video and, more importantly, for the prayer. That really got to me, man. I don't know why, but it made my eyes start to leak. I've been going through a lot for a long time, and I keep wanting to give up and give in. But through the grace of God, I keep trudging along.
Thank you, brother.
Thank You for your Prayers.
Another great video Joe, I saved it for when I'm ready to replace my flooring. Always look forward to the prayer at the end. I hope you and your family have a blessed holiday!
Hey Joe! I just want to thank you for super nice and educational videos. Here from Norway, I wish you a Merry Christmas and a nice holiday season.
Great video, loved all your honest insight!! Getting ready to do our floor and we have debated pad or pad, you helped decide our plan. Thanks and love your prayer at the end! God bless.
These videos are excellent! Exceptional quality, and I appreciate the quick simple prayer at the end. Thank you, and Blessings on you and yours!
Joe I'm just back years later to say thanks yet again for your videos. I laid laminate in most of my house with your videos and tips. You helped me get pro quality results DIY and any shortcomings in minor areas were from before I found your tip for that specific issue. Wishing you nothing but the best in 2024.
Love that you like QuietWalk. It was the first pad I ever used back when I did my first house in the 90's. The reason was exactly what you said. I liked the density and sound deadening quality and the price.
Wonderful prayer Joe!
Your videos are very informative-I have learned a great deal from you! Thank you for posting such valuable information. The prayer you did at the end was great to see and hear. God Bless you !!! So good to see a God loving person pray for those who are DIY's . Thank You
Thanks for the great information. I have a large living room that used to be a garage. We are going to remove the carpet and put down vinyl planks. So I will be using a pad because of being over concrete. God bless you and thanks again.
Thanks sir just solidified my take on underlayment. Learning so much here.
Amen and Thanks for the tips.
So, so helpful!! Just getting m supplies together and I ordered the wrong underlayment… thought thicker was better!!
Thanks for steering me away from a big mistake ♥️🙏🏼♥️
Thanks for all your videos. I put flooring in my first room with your techniques, 15'x15' octagon room. The cheater board is a life saver. I did not put pad down on the concreate subfloor. Leveling the floor is something i need more help on. I have 1,200sqft left to go ;) I fear i'm going to have to do more leveling. lets pray i don't. this next area needs to be continuous. so wish me lots of luck.
Thanks Joe for the very enlightening video. I’m about to install LVP on basement floor. Was trying to figure out whether to use moisture barrier or pad.
I installed a ton of angle to angle flooring and I think it's much better than the tap and lock. I find the best way to install it is to connect the ends together first and connect them together as a very long plank. I used the off cuts from my first row to lock the joints together (I think I got that idea from your videos). I did a 12 x 14 room by myself with no problems. Edit: This was the first room I did this way, but I had done several locking the individual planks together the way the instructions said and it was a royal pain.
Was wondering about this!
In Jesus name, yes!!
Your a blessing indeed in more ways than you know!!
Thanks again too for sharing your wealth of knowledge. I have a small kitchen jon in Jan. My kitchen. Going to look for the pad video now.
Thanks Joe
thank you and God bless you I have learned a lot from you
That prayer at the end made me subscribe :)
Useful information about flooring. This is the 2nd video of yours I've watched. I watch these videos to learn from the experience and/or expertise of others. You have compared several underlayments and have identified their particular strengths and weaknesses. I'm after that knowledge, that evidence of pros-cons. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
About the praying - I understand that you believe you are doing us a kindness, and for that I thank you. If you could provide some performance statistics, you know, pros and cons, for the deity you invoke in your prayers, I'd be better able to evaluate it.
Thanks again for the info.
great vid man !!
I really like #30 felt for underlayment
I love you and I love your content. Praise the Lord. May God bless you!
Thank you for your prayer! Such a blessing to me this morning as I consider helping my son finish his reno project
I was gonna subscribe but when you hit us with the prayer I was like "This dude is LEGIT !"
Great video for a layman like myself. I forgot to say I SUBSCRIBED
always great info thanks Brother! God Bless
Thanks Joe! What do you think about a roll on moisture barrier like Bona R540 for on grade or below grade concrete slabs before a pad is used?
Thanks
I'm praying for you, too, Joe. Psalm 90:17 "Let the favor of the Lord our God be upon us, and establish the work of our hands upon us; yes, establish the work of our hands!"
Question, I stripped carpet out of the master bedroom of our property we purchased and the padding was turning to dust. My question would be would you recommend stripping the glue off, or putting an extra pad down. It's a concert floor and I am struggling with getting the glue scrapped up. In some areas it's thin like a piece of paper but other areas seem to be thicker. I am wondering if you would strip the glue and put waterproof flooring down, or would you just strip the glue and paint the concrete floor. Also the master bathroom had the same carpeting do I need to strip the glue off the plywood before installing either linoleum or or waterproof flooring? Thank You for these videos they're very helpful.
I used 1/4 inch mass loaded vinyl under my mannington rigid, I have had zero issues thus far
I'm considering to get an additional pad like quiet sound just to help my neighbor downstairs live better :D
Will you be sharing any information on using electric heated floor padding under any on the flooring?
Thank you for this! QUESTION: If I have to leave the 1972 vinyl sheet in place because of asbestos, can I use levelling cement on top of the old vinyl sheet (uneven plywood subfloor), then put down the Quiet Walk LV, then the new rigid core SPC vinyl plank with attached foam pad flooring on top? I am concerned the vinyl will bubble up with suction (as it dries) under the levelling cement and destroy the vinyl seal that encapsulates the asbestos backing, and create a crumbly concrete mess under the underlayment. I am also concerned the Quiet Walk LV underlayment will be too slippery on top of the smooth vinyl and will bunch up under the planks. What are your thoughts for putting rigid core SPC flooring on top of old uneven vinyl flooring that can't come out?
Awesome videos, I’m planning a basement using Floorette over concrete. Is Quietwalk my best option for padding?
Thanks
What are some examples of the two types? Is Home Depot's Lifeproof drop and lock?
Curious on whether you would use a pad when installing over an existing tile and vinyl plank floor? I'll be using a cork-backed core luxury vinyl plank from Floor and Decor - what I've read is you need that stiff cork back to go over tile so grout lines don't bleed through - but do I also need some sort of pad? Seems like overkill, but I'll like some opinions. Thanks!
Do you have any videos to help me level our floors before laying down planks? Our wood subflood is crazy uneven and has major deflection
Do recommend using a pad in a second floor bathroom installation? Do you have a bathroom vinyl plank installation video?
Do you have another video on how to install the pad/vapor barrier?
I think if I ever redid my Flooret LVP, I'd put a thin pad underneath, for sound and minor differences in the subflooring.
I love quiet walk LV, BUT, my nucore drop and and lock felt too soft, joints felx too much for my liking, i removed half my living room to remove the qw, and put down poly 6mil. Feels more solid, no joint flex. There were 6 planks with broken butt joints that I found. Too much felx, these were all under furniture legs too. Its to bad I really wanted to use the q walk lv since it has moisture wick. Possibly differnt brand of plank wouldnt have this issue.
Been watching your videos, thank you. I am looking for a tile looking plank in the shade of gray. I was told that I should install something that is tongue and groove like all 4 sides like coretec. Is there any other company out there that its this way without braking the bank? Coretec stone I was quoted 6.80 sq ft. Is this reasonable and is it worth it?
I am installing click vinyl with 4,2 mm thickness without integrated underlayment on OSB. It is a bathroom with a bath, should i put any foil underneath vinyl? I was thinking vapor permeable foil that you use on roofs to protect OSB just in case or maybe nothing as manufacturer suggests (they also told me to glue it down in bathroom...).
Hey Joe, have u ever heard of Firmfit the intown collection? How is it? Thanks!
What about if installing on second floor bathroom. Would you use a plastic vapor barrier? Also would recommend using extra padding or just the padding attached to the vinyl plank? Last questions if you don't mind, what if your floor have lots of staples due to removing vinyl rug?
So my house is in Alaska and I am interested in LVP, on an concrete slab, I also wonder about in floor heating radiant heating spots, like bath rooms, in front room, in front of couch and kitchen, How would this work? I have rolled vinyl currently, 15 years old. can it be laid over top? Sorry for so many questions, but big investment. Bless you for sharing your gifts!
Question - a lot of LVP floors that I walk on sound like “plastic” if you know what I mean. They don’t sound solid like wood. If I do angle lock LVP on a concrete (no moisture issues) would that black pad eliminate or reduce that type of sound. THANKS!!
I’m putting vinyl plank down for a friend. I’ve watched a lot of your videos and I’m pretty comfortable doing the install. This is going over concrete. Do I need a vapor barrier down first on the concrete. This plank has a sound mitigating underlayment. What do you suggest? God Bless!!
Sir I have a question im installing LVP flooring on the first floor of my house It’s a new house new build just under a month old it has cheap vinyl flooring over the plywood since it has a basement. Can I install the LVP right over the vinyl? It was too expensive for the developer to install LVP the reason why I am doing it my self. There are only minimal areas where the vinyl bubbled. Thank you!
Joe - I’m between Flooret Modin LVP and Coretech Plus Premium that has the green pad attached. Any thoughts on which way to go?
What do you think about putting a 1200 pound pool table pn top of it
I pulled up my floor and noticed where the dishwasher was there is a lot of moisture. Can I use a moisture barrier just under the tucked away dishwasher area to protect the floor?
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat Thanks for all your great videos and insight! Do all your recommendations regarding pad hold true when installing in a new manufactured home (we don't like the flooring choices they offer)? We're looking at the NuCore 6.5mm which says underlayment is recommended but not required. Any thoughts you have on this would be greatly appreciated.
I would NOT use a pad with nucore if it is a wood subfloor. Use quietwalk LV if it is concrete.
@@SoThatsHowYouDoThat Wow! Thanks for the fast response. The subfloor is the typical plywood/OSB and the NuCore has the cork backing.
I have a condo concrete sub floor.
It won’t get much moisture or water. Would you still recommend I get a vapor barrier?
I installed LVP in a portable building. There is padding on the backside of the plank, and did not put a moisture barrier underneath. I just hope I don’t get a callback. 😳🤞🤞🤞
Nice job god bless
Hi Joe, I’m preparing to install laminate planks to replace 3/4” hardwood on the second floor that’s outdated. Do you think I should rip out the HW first? The HW is in every room, hallway and stair case down to first. We recently installed tiles in the upstairs bathroom at level with the old HW (maybe there’s a 1/8”-1/16” higher difference). If I rip out the HW I would need to install another subfloor. So should I leave the HW and install on top? If so they’ll be a lip to the bathroom. The laminate is 12 mm (not quite 1/2”). It’s my dilemma right now lol. Also the HW cracks a lot. So I’ll need to nail it in everywhere like you did to prep it.
Do you have a video where you install laminate in a staircase?
FYI I’ve never did that before.
Like your videos.
Thanks Joe
Don't rip it up. Lips are fine unless there's wheelchairs
@9:56, you're lifting on opposite sides of the lock. How could you pull the planks apart when there is a lip under the side you're lifting?
I put quiet walk under my luxury vinyl i dident use quite walk luxury vinyl and I accidentally put the blue vapor barrier facing down in the second floor of my house. Do you think I should be okay?
Question: Loved the video and the prayer at the end, my rigid core nucore floor does not recommend anything over 1mm underlayment, would this quietwalk lv still work since it is 1.4mm or will it cause my floor to buckle or separate over time
What did you end up doing!?
@@GrimJaw Haven't done it yet, Had to move a wall and do some mudding and sanding
I unfortunately used pad under my Lvp that had padding. It has caused my planks to start separating due to too much flexing of the planks….
Solid is better. We used 1/4 OSB over the subfloor.
That sucks, sorry to hear that
Did you use an angle to angle or drop lock?
Would you use a pad for Flooret LVP? It’s on a plywood subfloor.
Interested to know as wel
Joe I have old tile that I want to cover do I want a pad?
I have jus finished 3 bedrooms because of your videos. I may have made a huge mistake though. I put down Mohawk rigid vinyl plank on a concrete slab without adding a vapor barrier. I have been stressing this week wondering if I need to redo it with a vapor barrier. House is a single floor with no basement and is 10 years old. Do you think I’m ok to leave it as is?
If the product had a pad on the back side , you are fine. Each manufacturer has a phone number you can call for technical support and assistance. This would be on the directions that came in each package. If you tossed them out, you can go their website. They will answer all your questions! They are very friendly and patient . I know of no product that allows a pad under product that comes with a pad! You would be putting a vapor barrier on top of a vapor barrier and that's a no,no! Good day!
@@stevehamman4465 yea it had a pad under it, and the only thing it says on the instructions about a pad was do not use foam underlayment. Thanks for the help
@@Boogiiie , there are sound barrier pads also. But these can allow to much movement of the flooring material, up and down when walking on it. The extra movement can break the tongue off the plank and allow for separation! Your on a slab , and have a pad on your product, so you are fine! Mohawk? Is a good product!! Have a nice life!!
Will the pad not hold the water against the sub floor and create the perfect environment for mold and wood rot? I had that problem ,water, underneath my vinyl plank w/o a pad. I had no idea the water or the mold damage was there for a long time. Disaster.
Moisture will also make wide Lvp have cupping issues the ones I saw were 8 inches wide I believe
The manufacturers say just don’t tape the seams when on wood if you do use pad. If you have that much moisture when not taping seams that’s another problem
I am about to install Flooret LVP over the slab in the basement. I know in that video you said the manufacturer recommends vapor barrier but not a pad, what exactly does that mean? Also I really dislike the thought of trapping moisture under the flooring. Thank you for all of your videos I am hoping they will pay off as I go to do this install.
Hi, I am in same situation what did you go with? I bought quietwalk LV but my joints are flexing too much with cork backing, thinking about just usinf 6mil plastic, my thought is concrete is porous, itnshould absorb mositure back in if it sweats
I would use quietwalk lv
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat thanks fornfast response! I currently bought quiet walk lv but nucore will not warranty it since its 1.4mm vs 1mm they recommend. My joints also feel pop noise when pressed hard maybe too much flex , my subfloornis not perfect butni didnuse henery feather to help. Being above ground slab in Phoenix i am not too worried about water, but being in a basement below grade I would think hard about quiet walk LV due to moisture wick
i cant find QuietLock 1.4 mill for my basement install. Because of the radon thing in CO we were going to SEAL the floor first then LVP. Is it not recommended to use a pad with rubber sealing ?
It's called QuietWalk Luxury Vinyl 1.4 mm, Home Depot carries it.
Im on a second floor condo and I need soundproofing. I would be laying it on concrete. I have no idea where to start product wise. Can you recommend what products and brands I should purchase?
Any updates on what you used in second floor condo??
You can use Quiet board
@griffin3386 I haven't started. It's going to be my summer project as I'm a teacher. I'm also trying to save up some money before then. I can't afford to hire someone, so I'm going to give it a go myself. I'll let you know when I figure it out, though!
@@SoThatsHowYouDoThat Thank you for your response! I'll look into that!
You got this
I personally don't recommend to add underlayment to spc thay already has pad. It would make it more weak on the joints and with the everyday use the joints will start cracking
I tore out a whole kitchen that had extra pad and it wasn’t thick at all and it wasn’t a drop and lock the whole kitchen broke at the joints but in the family room where they didn’t use a pad nothing happened
If over concrete, then YES you need a vapor barrier underlay like he shows in the video
I think you were lifting the plank the wrong way though.
Joe, I was told by a sales person at floor and decor, that I can lay nu core performance over existing linoleum floor. Also, that I could apply the floor, right to my bare plywood floor. Are both of these statements true?
Yes
Yea never will get wet. Mold will just build up under all of that
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