Seems like you have changed your tune about underlay! What happened to the 30 cent stuff? Is it now not okay? How about everyone who listened to your earlier video's, are they now asking was I mistaken yo listen?
Hey Jeff! Thanks so much for the video. You've made a few videos on the topic, but I am curious about using underlayment with vinyl planks that have underlayment already on them. In a few videos, you have said that the underlayment that is attached to vinyl are insufficient. BUT, putting underlayment under some vinyl planks with underlayment voids their warranty. Do you still add this extra AbaTec underlayment if the panel has it's own underlayment and that risks the warranty? Thanks!
@@ArtOfTheWeld Never got a reply. We got some installed that had underlayment on them and did not get additional underlayment. Works for us, though sample size of 1
@@AwesomeMunson Never got a reply. We got some installed that had underlayment on them and did not get additional underlayment. Works for us, though sample size of 1
It seems rather odd, more like suspicious, that the STC of such a thin product can be so high, when laying mass loaded vinyl or thick rubber won't even get you anywhere if the floors and ceilings have not been engineered and built to proper specs and materials to reach the 60 something STC or impact rating. I'm sure that like many other products that boast such high STC or impact, small writings specify a thickness of concrete, a specific floor/wall/ceiling system with drywall, green glue and decoupling systems. Otherwise you could slap this underlayment on an apartment floor and fire up the home workshop with loud tools and dropping stuff, which I know you can't. I have a similar underlayment on top of existing floor and underlayment, plus 3/4 inch rubber mats, and I can guarantee that my neighbor still doesn't get a 68 IIC or 60 STC that the underlayment promises.
I actually think this video is a sign from the “powers that be” that I CAN do my bathroom remodel on my own… this series will cover every item on the list down to moving from single to double vanity. Thanks, Jeff.
So let me get this straight. In another video, you recommended purchasing an underpad from a store other than Home Depot (such as Floor & Decor). This underpad is sold at Home Depot but it's the best underpad? Is it more expensive than the type you recommended from Floor & Decor? Is it worth the extra cost or should I buy an underpad from Floor & Decor? Thank you.
I am finding that YOUR videos are consistently productive for me, clear and direct, and I really appreciate your creating these and sharing them. Thank you.
Jeff, you completely reversed course from your original advice on underlayment. You said it was stupid to pay anything more than .10 to .20/sq ft. You way overhyped the benefits of this, especially its ability to lay flat. Please don't sell yourself out for some free product. It’s making me question everything you’ve ever recommended…
This advice is for folks who get confused. It works in every situation. If you are smart then you will save the money and go to a wholesale supplier for the lower cost stuff, however since most folks only shop at the depot I am recommending this for them.
Hello, Great videos lots of help. I want to instal luxury vinyl on my kitchen, dinning, bathroom and livingroom, I got a house built in 2019 Can I just put this underpayment and on top my luxury vinyl ?
Question, does walking on the floor with this underlayment make it feel "spongy" (cheap feeling) and not like a solid floor? I don't like that feeling. I put engineered flooring in my basement with underlayment and it felt a little "spongy" and cheap.
I'm confused. He says use the DMX dimple stuff then he says use this stuff in the basement. This mat obviously can't whisk water away like the DMX underlayment in the basement.
Hey Jeff thanks for the video ! Could you use this product, or would you use this product with an SPC LVP that is 5mm and already has a black foam style underpad attached to it?
Per the comment I would stay away from squishy foam underlayment. This underlayment is good and there are better--just be sure they don't tear easily or compress easily, otherwise they lose function and longevity. The 2mm Ultra Quiet from floor and decor as well as ECF from HD are more expensive and highly IIC and STC with higher delta ratings as well, slightly. Again, good material that Jeff speak about---I just have not had any noise concerns with the 3mm ECF cork/foam compared to other rooms with 2mm competitors in terms of sound. Comfort is about the same if you have quality interlocking floating floor. Key.
Is underlayment necessary? I am also planning to install vinyl flooring and the planks have a rubber material coming with them, so in that case is it necessary to have a separate underlayment?
Two questions. First, I have heard the waterproof vinyl flooring is better than the waterproof laminate when used in a bathroom. Is that generally true? Second, I have been thinking that even if the flooring I get has an attached underlayment that I would put an underlayment like you have here in the video down first and then put the flooring. Just as a second layer of protection against water getting onto the osb. Is this a good idea? Any other tips for preventing water damage to the OSB when installing vinyl or laminate in a bathroom?
I've been shopping for vinyl plank floors and every floor sales person is saying don't bother with an additional underlayment if there's a pad on the plank. These are commission sales people advising me against buying $300-400 more product from them. Seems like everyone has a different opinion but if the guys who'd profit from selling me the stuff tell me not to buy it I'm leaning that direction.
Jeff, would you use this with vinyl plank that already has 'underlayment' attached? Like Lowes' Smartcore Ultra. I didn't use any on my install directly on slab, and it sounds like hollow plastic when walking on it.
I have Smartcore and I didn't use an underlayment just standard OBS and they turned out great. Smartcore is like 7-8mm I believe which is a good thickness I wouldn't not use an underlayment for anything under 5mm. Some of their cheapest floors like Procore are complete ass.
Im installing vinyl plank on my washroom and realize the floor is not even..Can I put two or three layers of this to level the floor before installing the vinyl plank?
Can I glue this down under my glue down 2mm LVP planks, or Is there something like this that I can use between my slab on grade concrete floor and glue down 2mm LVP planks?
I would like to know can I use this when putting down peel and stick tile over permanent tiles? I am a renter and would like to cover over the ugly old fashioned tile so when I move out I can just pull It up without damaging the ugly tile?
Hello Jeff, loved the video. Would this product work with Hardwood flooring? I am installing some new hardwood oak floors a few months and wanted to know I could use this product.
Thanks Jeff. Lots of positives for using this underlayment instead of DMX 1-Step. I understand you're not allowing yourself to mention the EVA flooring underlayment by name, but as a commenter I can. Anyhow, it looks like the best pricing for this underlayment is ordering online from Home Depot since. The link you provided has this at $0.75 sq/ft, but if you buy direct from Home Depot (in the USA) it costs $0.51 sq/ft. Thanks for another informative video.
The only downside is that you won’t be giggling to yourself nearly as much during the installation if the song “X Gon’ Give It to Ya” happens to be playing. Maybe that’s a non-issue for most folks, but I always enjoy things that have a coincidental musical theme to them. I suppose you could throw on some “Dancing Queen” and make do with this stuff, if that’s your thing. It seems like going from AbaTec to ABBA is a bit of stretch, but maybe it’s just me.
Don't get this, bubble wrap, some planks come with good padding, do research first This is not a good product, Jeff must got paid real good for this over the top advertising.
For those overseas that are watching, what do you typically look at when buying underlayment? There's a lot to take into consideration such as ratings etc, but I'm not sure if they're good. Any suggestions here is much appreciated!
Hi Jeff, If I need an underlayment that will be placed down on a 2nd floor unit with an in-law unit downstairs, will this product be sufficient in terms of maximizing sound proofing? What other underlayment do you recommend that may have a higher sound rating if this is a priority?? Thanks a lot and definitely will be tuning in to your upcoming series! cheers!
If installing LifeProof LVP on a concrete floor in a basement in a 20 year old house would you rather do a subfloor with a dimple mat and OSB or this product and just the LifeProof flooring?
I'm starting to install vinyl planks that has built in underlayment (rubber) and without knowing i also picked up some underlayment like you show in this video. I see people say not to use underlayment in that case because of the locking issues you point out, but this underlayment seems different as it's thinner and compressed. You also mention that it's ok to use this type of underlayment because of it's density. I've already got the underlayment cut and laid out in one room and was about to start laying planks...then i figured I should try to make sure it's ok first. In your opinion, do you think it's ok to have extra when the plank has underlayment attached? I'm on a concrete floor...which is flat, at least in this first room. Thanks for all the video's...super helpful!
97 cents a square foot yikes. Think I'll stick with the DMX for my basement it is actually cheaper. Too bad the stuff in this video can't be sold at HD in Canada
I bought this product based on your recommendation and against the advice of our contractor who said that in his experience and the flooring guy at lowes this underlayment should not be put under our CALI Vinyl Pro with Mute Step Interlocking Luxury Vinyl Plank Flooring. He said that because the flooring goes together with tongue and groove locking system that the underlayment could cause the flooring to "give" and the more the flooring "gives" the more stress it causes on the tongue and groove connection. So I hope that I have done the right thing choosing to go ahead with this underlayment anyway. After having the contractor voice his concerns I watched many more of your videos and I noticed that you do not put this underlayment down before installing the vinyl plank flooring? Can you tell us why that is?
Thanks so much for this! I'm looking at tackling a bedroom with an old subfloor. The floor is solid but I do have some 1/4" seams at joints in places... Can I use this as my smooth surface before laying vinyl sheeting?
Really enjoy the videos and learning about the newest things. Thank you for that! Kinda in relation as it is similar flooring but, quick question, I am trying to add some floating flooring to match what is there, to patch a space in a kitchen that used to have a cabinet in it. It seems the floor under the cabinet was just slab and there is a 8th inch one side and half inch the other side difference in the floor level. I am using Henrys 345 to fill in the difference layer by layer to build up the half inch side and it is taking forever to dry. I am now thinking I made a mistake and should have used self leveling concrete. Would you recommend just keep building it up and waiting for each layer to dry or just bust it out and put some self leveling concrete in there? Any thoughts are appreciated.
Hey there Jeff! Perfect timing for posting this! 👍 We are currently renovation a 1910s house. Unfortunately, our contractor bailed on us and now we our DIY’ing (or DIOurselves). Nevertheless, we are grateful to have your videos and we are confident we can conquer DIY’ing! 💪😅 Currently, we are battling with the floors. Trying to figure out how to level the floors or wondering if we can cross our fingers that the under layment (such as this one) will suffice?? 🤞 Unfortunately, it’s not in our budget to rip up the hardwood tiger wood flooring nor repair it. So we can’t put in new subfloor. So we are using the hardwood flooring as our subfloor. However, we do notice about a 1/2” dip in one area. Apparently, the house is settling (because it’s a 100+ year old house on a hill) and the joists are warped. To mitigate the bounciness we’ve drilled wood screws into the hardwood to the joists. But this still doesn’t solve the dip. Flooring feels solid, but again.. how can we fix the dip or will under layment help??? Please help! 🙏😇
Im 7months late but better late than never. Im confused, throughout the video you say this product can be put under ANY floating floor..but in going through the questions, Many people have asked if it can be used with vinyl plank that comes with the attached pad and your answer is No.
i think he doesn't want you to buy anything attached as the quality won't be as good as what you can buy separately but if you do buy one with an attached underlayment, then you don't need an additional separate one. Although quiet walk does make a 1.5mm one that supposedly is designed for any type of LVP if you want a small additional dampening
You said this blue stuff is the “best on the market you’ve seen to date”. How does it compare to “Acousticork T-56 Endurance”? I’m looking for best quality with lowest sound transmission.
Thanks for the demo. So this performs better than 2 lb mass loaded vinyl with a 31 STC? I heard you say it has a 66 STC. That's awesome, but sounds difficult to believe since it's very thin and has low mass. Your thoughts?
Hello. Thanks for your video! If you're installing Vinyl Plank Flooring that already comes with 1mm pad underneath, over a plywood subfloor, do you still need to install an underlayment?
My basement is dry but the floor will sweat if something is on top of it(old house). Is there an issue with placing 6mil poly or some other barrier that lays flat on the concrete?
Hello from Barrie, Jeff. I’m trying to source this product in Canada and having some difficulty. I need it for a project I’m hoping to complete tomorrow. I looked in the description because you said you’d leave some info there, but I only found a link to the US Home Depot website. Please help!
Just bought a house and discovered your channel. Time to fix all the things! Question about the underlayment though - I just installed luxury vinyl planks which already had an underlayment attached and the warranty for the planks specifically states that the warranty is void if you install any additional underlayment other than what is already attached to the planks. Is there any advantage to using an additional layer of underlayment if the planks already have one attached?
I'm going to install LVP on a wooden subfloor. The subfloor is, seemingly, original to the house which was built in 1940. It is a made from tongue and groove planks. My LVP is 6.5mm thick with a 1.5mm pad. Would you still recommend installing an underlayment?
This may be a dumb q : 1960 house in London ON, re-doing 5 x7 bathroom. the subfloor is 5" planks at 45 degrees to the joists. The original steel bathtub just sits on the subfloor. Gutting it down to the studs. Do I put the vapour barrier over the entire 5 x 7 (new bath on top)? I'm thinking it it can take cabinets it can take a bath.
I understand the rolling issue... but one is $79 and the other is $17. I just can't justify that when I need 3 rolls for one room. Sounds like something professionals would use to save time, tho.
Hi Jeff, is QuicPrep 100 sq. ft. Universal Underlayment Engineered Hardwood & Laminate for Luxury Vinyl Plank an equivalent product in Canada, it is being sold here at Homedepot Canada?
Jeff I like this product a lot, but I have to ask is it necessary to use this product if the laminate I am planning to install already has an attached 2mm underlayment? (Pergo Outlast plus is the product and the company only allows their version of this product to be added underneath their product because of "chemical" compatability. You can check their instruction guide to see what I am talking about. The Pergo version of the "easy cut" is retailing at $79 for 100 square feet. Pretty pricey to me. I'd like to know If I can simply put a good vapor barrier down under the Pergo Outlast?
Hello love your channel ! I am looking to put laminate flooring in a commercial space. It will be a dance studio! I really need cushion in the floor. Could you recommend a quality floor and and underlayment padding (good for knees). It will be going on concrete! Please help!
I have a question. My boys Bathroom has flooded due to sewer line backup. Should I still do this or glue directly to cement? I’ve heard a lot of back and forth.
What do you think about quietwalk luxury vinyl for an underlayment in a basement. I'm using an 8 mm plank with an attached pad. Looking for vapor barrier and hopefully add a little warmth given im in the north.
Hi Jeff! Your videos are amazing thank you. I was wondering what kind of underlayment should i use? i have vinyl floors and winter gets really cold and air blows from the floors and we usually do not wear shoes so our feet freezes. This project will be DIY If you can provide multiple options please that will be perfect. Thanks
How is it for vinyl peel and stick? I'm about half way through replacing flooring in a small bathroom. I used trafficmaster peel and stick and I already regret it. It's not the product. The product looks great and is cheap enough to just install without really giving a shit. The problem is the assclowns that inhabited this house before me slathered the subfloor with peanut butter. It might not have been peanut butter. It might have been some sort of putty. Whatever. It's goo and nothing will stick to it and I don't want to screw with wood underlayment. I'm gonna rip out all the stuff I installed and I ain't even mad. It cost me $35 and half a day.
Would this product work over ceramic tile eliminating the requirement to fill grout lines, or should they still be leveled first? Looking to install vinyl plank in my basement (ceramic tile over concrete).
5 years ago I used a product like that on top of my concrete floor but it was a different colour, under laminate flooring, never had a problem except the floor was cold close to the exterior wall in winter..thats laminate though...this time I have a new construction slab on grade, 5 foot foundation walls with styrofoam on inside of walls, then filled the hole to the top, tampered ground, 4 inches of gravel, 2 inch styrofoam then one layer of heavy duty poly then 5 inch concrete for slab on grade,...so was wondering if one can put 1 inch rigid foam under vinyl flooring to make for a super nice warm floor...would this create a problem in the floor not being able to breath under the vinyl... or with the vapour barried already under the slab do i have to worry about having a second one on top of the concrete under the vinyl flooring..thanks
always love watching the videos Jeff! I've learned so much from you, a true teacher. thanks for everything
Yess sir 👏👍👍
I appreciate that!
Seems like you have changed your tune about underlay! What happened to the 30 cent stuff? Is it now not okay? How about everyone who listened to your earlier video's, are they now asking was I mistaken yo listen?
Hey Jeff! Thanks so much for the video. You've made a few videos on the topic, but I am curious about using underlayment with vinyl planks that have underlayment already on them. In a few videos, you have said that the underlayment that is attached to vinyl are insufficient. BUT, putting underlayment under some vinyl planks with underlayment voids their warranty. Do you still add this extra AbaTec underlayment if the panel has it's own underlayment and that risks the warranty? Thanks!
no reply?
I'd like to know the answer to this as well.
Did you ever find an answer to this elsewhere?
@@ArtOfTheWeld Never got a reply. We got some installed that had underlayment on them and did not get additional underlayment. Works for us, though sample size of 1
@@AwesomeMunson Never got a reply. We got some installed that had underlayment on them and did not get additional underlayment. Works for us, though sample size of 1
It seems rather odd, more like suspicious, that the STC of such a thin product can be so high, when laying mass loaded vinyl or thick rubber won't even get you anywhere if the floors and ceilings have not been engineered and built to proper specs and materials to reach the 60 something STC or impact rating. I'm sure that like many other products that boast such high STC or impact, small writings specify a thickness of concrete, a specific floor/wall/ceiling system with drywall, green glue and decoupling systems. Otherwise you could slap this underlayment on an apartment floor and fire up the home workshop with loud tools and dropping stuff, which I know you can't. I have a similar underlayment on top of existing floor and underlayment, plus 3/4 inch rubber mats, and I can guarantee that my neighbor still doesn't get a 68 IIC or 60 STC that the underlayment promises.
Anyone looking for the tape, it's called: Tuck Tape
Hey Jeff quick question for ya. If I had vinyl plank that has an attached pad, should I add another layer of something like this?
Yes!
Exact same question. Got it a HD. Instructions even say do not use and underlayment
I actually think this video is a sign from the “powers that be” that I CAN do my bathroom remodel on my own… this series will cover every item on the list down to moving from single to double vanity. Thanks, Jeff.
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Is this needed for porcelain or ceramic for a bathroom?
@@maymofoo8637 No, tile connects directly to the floor.
So let me get this straight. In another video, you recommended purchasing an underpad from a store other than Home Depot (such as Floor & Decor). This underpad is sold at Home Depot but it's the best underpad? Is it more expensive than the type you recommended from Floor & Decor? Is it worth the extra cost or should I buy an underpad from Floor & Decor? Thank you.
Should I use this even if the floor I want already has an attached pad?
Great video! One question though. Should underlayment be used for vinyl with pad??
Thank you advance!!
I am finding that YOUR videos are consistently productive for me, clear and direct, and I really appreciate your creating these and sharing them. Thank you.
Jeff, you completely reversed course from your original advice on underlayment. You said it was stupid to pay anything more than .10 to .20/sq ft. You way overhyped the benefits of this, especially its ability to lay flat.
Please don't sell yourself out for some free product. It’s making me question everything you’ve ever recommended…
Is it possible his advice just changed? Flooring seems like an industry that's constantly evolving on an even year to year basis now.
@@danaolsongaming it’s literally the same stuff he said sucks and not to use before. Now he recommends it.
@@misternobody5937 he’s really screwed his viewers over before?
This advice is for folks who get confused. It works in every situation. If you are smart then you will save the money and go to a wholesale supplier for the lower cost stuff, however since most folks only shop at the depot I am recommending this for them.
@@misternobody5937 I never said not to buy this before. I was referring to the white foam bubbles in between plastic in a previous video.
Hello,
Great videos lots of help.
I want to instal luxury vinyl on my kitchen, dinning, bathroom and livingroom, I got a house built in 2019 Can I just put this underpayment and on top my luxury vinyl ?
I've always used A heavy 30 lb tar/felt paper under my Vinyl Plant flooring. It's waterproof and flat and not spongey. Plus it's everywhere.
I was literally researching underlayments last night. Perfect timing!
Have you used this with coretec product that already has cork backing?
My LVP (LifeProof) says the warranty is void if you do an underpad.. what should I do?!!
Question, does walking on the floor with this underlayment make it feel "spongy" (cheap feeling) and not like a solid floor? I don't like that feeling. I put engineered flooring in my basement with underlayment and it felt a little "spongy" and cheap.
I'm confused. He says use the DMX dimple stuff then he says use this stuff in the basement. This mat obviously can't whisk water away like the DMX underlayment in the basement.
Hey Jeff thanks for the video ! Could you use this product, or would you use this product with an SPC LVP that is 5mm and already has a black foam style underpad attached to it?
Hi, did you ever find an answer to this question?
Per the comment I would stay away from squishy foam underlayment. This underlayment is good and there are better--just be sure they don't tear easily or compress easily, otherwise they lose function and longevity. The 2mm Ultra Quiet from floor and decor as well as ECF from HD are more expensive and highly IIC and STC with higher delta ratings as well, slightly. Again, good material that Jeff speak about---I just have not had any noise concerns with the 3mm ECF cork/foam compared to other rooms with 2mm competitors in terms of sound. Comfort is about the same if you have quality interlocking floating floor. Key.
Is underlayment necessary? I am also planning to install vinyl flooring and the planks have a rubber material coming with them, so in that case is it necessary to have a separate underlayment?
Very intersting, however, you did not mention how effective this is for thermal insulation on concrete floors. Any advice? Thanks
Would you use this along with MLV? We want to soundproof our floor as much as physically possible.
Two questions. First, I have heard the waterproof vinyl flooring is better than the waterproof laminate when used in a bathroom. Is that generally true?
Second, I have been thinking that even if the flooring I get has an attached underlayment that I would put an underlayment like you have here in the video down first and then put the flooring. Just as a second layer of protection against water getting onto the osb. Is this a good idea? Any other tips for preventing water damage to the OSB when installing vinyl or laminate in a bathroom?
I've been shopping for vinyl plank floors and every floor sales person is saying don't bother with an additional underlayment if there's a pad on the plank. These are commission sales people advising me against buying $300-400 more product from them. Seems like everyone has a different opinion but if the guys who'd profit from selling me the stuff tell me not to buy it I'm leaning that direction.
Jeff, would you use this with vinyl plank that already has 'underlayment' attached? Like Lowes' Smartcore Ultra. I didn't use any on my install directly on slab, and it sounds like hollow plastic when walking on it.
I have Smartcore and I didn't use an underlayment just standard OBS and they turned out great. Smartcore is like 7-8mm I believe which is a good thickness I wouldn't not use an underlayment for anything under 5mm. Some of their cheapest floors like Procore are complete ass.
Im installing vinyl plank on my washroom and realize the floor is not even..Can I put two or three layers of this to level the floor before installing the vinyl plank?
Can I glue this down under my glue down 2mm LVP planks, or Is there something like this that I can use between my slab on grade concrete floor and glue down 2mm LVP planks?
Is this recommended if the vinyl plank already has a pre attached underlayment? This is going on a concrete floor.
Don’t need it.
I would like to know can I use this when putting down peel and stick tile over permanent tiles? I am a renter and would like to cover over the ugly old fashioned tile so when I move out I can just pull
It up without damaging the ugly tile?
How bout sheet vinyl underlayment
Hello Jeff, loved the video. Would this product work with Hardwood flooring? I am installing some new hardwood oak floors a few months and wanted to know I could use this product.
Can you skip it if your flooring already comes with an underlayment?
Could you use this and use any kind of vinyl over tile? Or would you still need to get a product with the firm center . Forgot what the name was
Do you have a video for laminate or vinyl floor install and suggestions for basement concrete floor?
Im looking for an insulating underlayment for thermal insulation for heating mat being installed above concrete slab and porcelain tile.
Thanks Jeff. Lots of positives for using this underlayment instead of DMX 1-Step. I understand you're not allowing yourself to mention the EVA flooring underlayment by name, but as a commenter I can. Anyhow, it looks like the best pricing for this underlayment is ordering online from Home Depot since. The link you provided has this at $0.75 sq/ft, but if you buy direct from Home Depot (in the USA) it costs $0.51 sq/ft. Thanks for another informative video.
it all comes down to logistics. Hopefully one day soon we will figure out better pricing on flooring products. Cheers!
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im seeing 95 cents sq/ft now :(
Is the EVA flooring underlayment better than this Abatech underfloor for reducing sound?
The only downside is that you won’t be giggling to yourself nearly as much during the installation if the song “X Gon’ Give It to Ya” happens to be playing.
Maybe that’s a non-issue for most folks, but I always enjoy things that have a coincidental musical theme to them.
I suppose you could throw on some “Dancing Queen” and make do with this stuff, if that’s your thing. It seems like going from AbaTec to ABBA is a bit of stretch, but maybe it’s just me.
Is it necessary to put padding under planks if you’re installing onto an existing wood floor? Thanks in advance!
Don't get this, bubble wrap, some planks come with good padding, do research first
This is not a good product, Jeff must got paid real good for this over the top advertising.
Make a video of best soundproofing materias for walls pls.. thanks!
He has videos on soundproofing walls already. Just search his channel and you will find!
Hi did every know what is the mane of this product ? Thankyou
For those overseas that are watching, what do you typically look at when buying underlayment? There's a lot to take into consideration such as ratings etc, but I'm not sure if they're good. Any suggestions here is much appreciated!
Ivd just commented for the same reason! I'm UK based.
I love how now you need an underpad on top of an underpad built onto the plank. Seems counterintuitive.
The underlayment is so expensive here in the US
try using 3mm eva foam for a more budget friendly alternative. Cheers!
Do you have a Lowes equivalent you recommend?
Should the sheets be taped together before the floor is installed? When I add the underlayment to the cart at Home Depot, tape is recommended.
Are there any LVP brands that won't void warranty with this product?
Hi Jeff, If I need an underlayment that will be placed down on a 2nd floor unit with an in-law unit downstairs, will this product be sufficient in terms of maximizing sound proofing? What other underlayment do you recommend that may have a higher sound rating if this is a priority??
Thanks a lot and definitely will be tuning in to your upcoming series! cheers!
What if your plank has a built in pad LVP? would you still use this to help with all these benefits on top of sub floor?
If installing LifeProof LVP on a concrete floor in a basement in a 20 year old house would you rather do a subfloor with a dimple mat and OSB or this product and just the LifeProof flooring?
both options are fine. However the subfloor will protect your space in the event of water getting in if the exterior is not waterproofed. Cheers!
Also, adding this product to Lifeproof voids the lifetime warranty
Can this underlayment be used under engineered hardwood that is being stapled down?
I hear from multiple sources you shouldn't use an underpad when a flooring already has one attached to it.
I paid the tiny premium for this product and didn't realize all the benefits for ease of installation. Glad to know it's approved by Jeff!
I'm starting to install vinyl planks that has built in underlayment (rubber) and without knowing i also picked up some underlayment like you show in this video. I see people say not to use underlayment in that case because of the locking issues you point out, but this underlayment seems different as it's thinner and compressed. You also mention that it's ok to use this type of underlayment because of it's density. I've already got the underlayment cut and laid out in one room and was about to start laying planks...then i figured I should try to make sure it's ok first. In your opinion, do you think it's ok to have extra when the plank has underlayment attached? I'm on a concrete floor...which is flat, at least in this first room. Thanks for all the video's...super helpful!
How did your project work out? Did the additional underlayment cause any issues?
What are your thoughts to using MLV as an underlayment for luxury vinyl plank?
great for sound transmission control. going to have a lot of off gases emitting for a while. Cheers!
It's suficient to keep the warm floor with this, please?!
97 cents a square foot yikes. Think I'll stick with the DMX for my basement it is actually cheaper. Too bad the stuff in this video can't be sold at HD in Canada
I bought this product based on your recommendation and against the advice of our contractor who said that in his experience and the flooring guy at lowes this underlayment should not be put under our CALI Vinyl Pro with Mute Step Interlocking Luxury Vinyl Plank Flooring. He said that because the flooring goes together with tongue and groove locking system that the underlayment could cause the flooring to "give" and the more the flooring "gives" the more stress it causes on the tongue and groove connection. So I hope that I have done the right thing choosing to go ahead with this underlayment anyway.
After having the contractor voice his concerns I watched many more of your videos and I noticed that you do not put this underlayment down before installing the vinyl plank flooring? Can you tell us why that is?
What did you end up doing, and how did it work out?
I'd really like to know! 😁
@@MichaelPace2.0yes me too
I am from faroese island and is says I can't subscribe your channel. I am Scandinavian hope you the best xox
cheers! and thanks for watching!
Thanks so much for this! I'm looking at tackling a bedroom with an old subfloor. The floor is solid but I do have some 1/4" seams at joints in places... Can I use this as my smooth surface before laying vinyl sheeting?
Really enjoy the videos and learning about the newest things. Thank you for that! Kinda in relation as it is similar flooring but, quick question, I am trying to add some floating flooring to match what is there, to patch a space in a kitchen that used to have a cabinet in it. It seems the floor under the cabinet was just slab and there is a 8th inch one side and half inch the other side difference in the floor level. I am using Henrys 345 to fill in the difference layer by layer to build up the half inch side and it is taking forever to dry. I am now thinking I made a mistake and should have used self leveling concrete. Would you recommend just keep building it up and waiting for each layer to dry or just bust it out and put some self leveling concrete in there? Any thoughts are appreciated.
I prefer self leveling
How does it compare to Sentimel from Floor and Decor?
Hey there Jeff! Perfect timing for posting this! 👍 We are currently renovation a 1910s house. Unfortunately, our contractor bailed on us and now we our DIY’ing (or DIOurselves). Nevertheless, we are grateful to have your videos and we are confident we can conquer DIY’ing! 💪😅 Currently, we are battling with the floors. Trying to figure out how to level the floors or wondering if we can cross our fingers that the under layment (such as this one) will suffice?? 🤞 Unfortunately, it’s not in our budget to rip up the hardwood tiger wood flooring nor repair it. So we can’t put in new subfloor. So we are using the hardwood flooring as our subfloor. However, we do notice about a 1/2” dip in one area. Apparently, the house is settling (because it’s a 100+ year old house on a hill) and the joists are warped. To mitigate the bounciness we’ve drilled wood screws into the hardwood to the joists. But this still doesn’t solve the dip. Flooring feels solid, but again.. how can we fix the dip or will under layment help??? Please help! 🙏😇
what did you do?
Can this be installed on basement concrete, and do you need any adhesive?
Hi Jeff, does the underlayment need to be taped to the floor?
In my part of the world, trapping moisture underneath the floor is a massive no-no, since it will lead to mold.
Im 7months late but better late than never. Im confused, throughout the video you say this product can be put under ANY floating floor..but in going through the questions, Many people have asked if it can be used with vinyl plank that comes with the attached pad and your answer is No.
i think he doesn't want you to buy anything attached as the quality won't be as good as what you can buy separately but if you do buy one with an attached underlayment, then you don't need an additional separate one. Although quiet walk does make a 1.5mm one that supposedly is designed for any type of LVP if you want a small additional dampening
@@Bustudent1 I literally just purchased the Quietwalk that your talking about! Thanks for the input, greatly appreciated.
Use DMX foundation wrap its "exterior only" but actually it works well as underlayment and is about $180 for 426sq ft ..42c/sqft
Appletite? Apple ate? Apple what?
You said this blue stuff is the “best on the market you’ve seen to date”. How does it compare to “Acousticork T-56 Endurance”?
I’m looking for best quality with lowest sound transmission.
Thanks for the demo. So this performs better than 2 lb mass loaded vinyl with a 31 STC? I heard you say it has a 66 STC. That's awesome, but sounds difficult to believe since it's very thin and has low mass. Your thoughts?
Hello. Thanks for your video! If you're installing Vinyl Plank Flooring that already comes with 1mm pad underneath, over a plywood subfloor, do you still need to install an underlayment?
Is their any chance you could do some videos for great products that are sold in the UK? Much appreciated.
Fantastic and informative video! 😊
My basement is dry but the floor will sweat if something is on top of it(old house). Is there an issue with placing 6mil poly or some other barrier that lays flat on the concrete?
best to have an air space so the relative humidity can be managed better. a foam insulated panel with osb on top is a great place to start
Hello from Barrie, Jeff. I’m trying to source this product in Canada and having some difficulty. I need it for a project I’m hoping to complete tomorrow. I looked in the description because you said you’d leave some info there, but I only found a link to the US Home Depot website. Please help!
Just bought a house and discovered your channel. Time to fix all the things! Question about the underlayment though - I just installed luxury vinyl planks which already had an underlayment attached and the warranty for the planks specifically states that the warranty is void if you install any additional underlayment other than what is already attached to the planks. Is there any advantage to using an additional layer of underlayment if the planks already have one attached?
yes the ones attached are lousy. never buy that product. always buy quality vinyl and a separate underlayment.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY but if we bought those with underlayment attached, is it a good idea to add an extra layer like this one?
I'm going to install LVP on a wooden subfloor. The subfloor is, seemingly, original to the house which was built in 1940. It is a made from tongue and groove planks.
My LVP is 6.5mm thick with a 1.5mm pad. Would you still recommend installing an underlayment?
How does this compare to MLV? I’m preparing to install hardwood flooring but trying to reduce sound transmission before install
This may be a dumb q : 1960 house in London ON, re-doing 5 x7 bathroom. the subfloor is 5" planks at 45 degrees to the joists. The original steel bathtub just sits on the subfloor. Gutting it down to the studs. Do I put the vapour barrier over the entire 5 x 7 (new bath on top)? I'm thinking it it can take cabinets it can take a bath.
What about old tiles that might have asbestos 🤔
I understand the rolling issue... but one is $79 and the other is $17. I just can't justify that when I need 3 rolls for one room.
Sounds like something professionals would use to save time, tho.
Hi Jeff, is QuicPrep 100 sq. ft. Universal Underlayment Engineered Hardwood & Laminate for Luxury Vinyl Plank an equivalent product in Canada, it is being sold here at Homedepot Canada?
Jeff I like this product a lot, but I have to ask is it necessary to use this product if the laminate I am planning to install already has an attached 2mm underlayment? (Pergo Outlast plus is the product and the company only allows their version of this product to be added underneath their product because of "chemical" compatability. You can check their instruction guide to see what I am talking about. The Pergo version of the "easy cut" is retailing at $79 for 100 square feet. Pretty pricey to me. I'd like to know If I can simply put a good vapor barrier down under the Pergo Outlast?
will this work for nail down engineered wood floor?
Hello love your channel ! I am looking to put laminate flooring in a commercial space. It will be a dance studio! I really need cushion in the floor. Could you recommend a quality floor and and underlayment padding (good for knees). It will be going on concrete! Please help!
I have a question. My boys Bathroom has flooded due to sewer line backup. Should I still do this or glue directly to cement? I’ve heard a lot of back and forth.
What do you think about quietwalk luxury vinyl for an underlayment in a basement. I'm using an 8 mm plank with an attached pad. Looking for vapor barrier and hopefully add a little warmth given im in the north.
Hi Jeff! Your videos are amazing thank you. I was wondering what kind of underlayment should i use? i have vinyl floors and winter gets really cold and air blows from the floors and we usually do not wear shoes so our feet freezes. This project will be DIY If you can provide multiple options please that will be perfect. Thanks
Jeff, you really should be sponsored by all these brands. You've probably moved more product than their advertisements have.
Curious if it can be used if the flooring already has an attached underlayment as well.
not recommended.
Mr. Thorman, I'm scared of your wife; she's too beautiful.
How is it for vinyl peel and stick?
I'm about half way through replacing flooring in a small bathroom. I used trafficmaster peel and stick and I already regret it.
It's not the product. The product looks great and is cheap enough to just install without really giving a shit. The problem is the assclowns that inhabited this house before me slathered the subfloor with peanut butter. It might not have been peanut butter. It might have been some sort of putty. Whatever. It's goo and nothing will stick to it and I don't want to screw with wood underlayment.
I'm gonna rip out all the stuff I installed and I ain't even mad. It cost me $35 and half a day.
Any opinion on the Quiet Walk product? Can't seem to find 3mm EVA anywhere. All out of stock.
My concrete sub has some moisture. What kind of moisture barrier should I get to install solid hardwood? Thanks.
Appreciate the info! But 130 dollars for 100sqft box is pricey lol
Can it be used under click lock vinyl flooring which says that underlayment is optional
Would this product work over ceramic tile eliminating the requirement to fill grout lines, or should they still be leveled first? Looking to install vinyl plank in my basement (ceramic tile over concrete).
5 years ago I used a product like that on top of my concrete floor but it was a different colour, under laminate flooring, never had a problem except the floor was cold close to the exterior wall in winter..thats laminate though...this time I have a new construction slab on grade, 5 foot foundation walls with styrofoam on inside of walls, then filled the hole to the top, tampered ground, 4 inches of gravel, 2 inch styrofoam then one layer of heavy duty poly then 5 inch concrete for slab on grade,...so was wondering if one can put 1 inch rigid foam under vinyl flooring to make for a super nice warm floor...would this create a problem in the floor not being able to breath under the vinyl... or with the vapour barried already under the slab do i have to worry about having a second one on top of the concrete under the vinyl flooring..thanks