Our custom builder put in Aqualok brand 12 mil LVP and pieces of debris is causing pops coming through. It feels and sounds like plastic. Only good thing is easy maintenance, breeze to clean. My husband is a contractor and is taking it out next year. I’ve had hardwood in several homes and it scratches and water stains too easy. We put Pergo Timbercraft laminate in my dad’s house and loved it. Easy to clean and looked so authentic. We’re leaning in that direction again. I like a beveled edge so dirt doesn’t get in the grooves and so many brands have that groove. I wish they wouldn’t do that. Also I go barefoot in my house and the LVP is like ice. And noisy.
@@adazzlingworld3374I think they mean it doesn't reduce noise when someone's walking over it. My understanding so far is that we can use underlayment for sound and warmth with laminate, but only 1mm ith vinyl.
Perfect level of education! I only wish my flooring company had helped me understand all this before we installed something that ultimately isn't working great for us.
Ours either. We got a crappy LVP product and it's falling apart less than 4 years later. Crappy product + fast installation by not filling in low spots of slab = disaster.
What did you install? I'm still trying to figure out which flooring would be best. I don't like texture, I feel like the grooves will absorb dirt more than a smooth non texture
Just put down LVP to replace laminate. It’s warmer underfoot, easier to lay (mine had built in underlay and one blade cut you can snap it to length) doesn’t chip, and it doesn’t matter if you spill fluids on it. In my kitchen and will be in the bathroom soon.
Funny, I just ripped out the lvp my house came with and replaced it with laminate. I like the feel and sound of it better. Chips do happen time to time but an application of color matched epoxy and no one’s the wiser. Even though it is rated for 24 hours water-resistant, in wet areas like the kitchen, I also ran a bead of waterproof wood glue in the seems. In the last house I did the same, had standing water on the main floor from a hot water heater over a weekend while I was out, and had no issue with water getting underneath and buckling the floor.
I agree LVP . I installed in my master bathroom- main bathroom, third bedroom & closet, soon to be kitchen and two closets. I bought my home with laminate installed throughout master bedroom into main living area carried into dinning area and down a hallway and second bedroom. All the closets had 30 year old carpet.
March 1st, 2024 at 3:15pm pacific time……. thank you for all the information that you gave me watching this video. I have one question I have a mobile home and I want to replace the carpet with vinyl planking hopefully but our flooring is particleboard underneath the carpet and we have linoleum in the kitchen and bathrooms so I’m wondering if vinyl planking will still work to replace some of this flooring?
We have a plywood subfloor and we went with laminate. If you haven’t already, check with a floor store/installer. We were originally going to go with lvp, but our local store rep came out to measure and provide an estimate and suggested laminate instead, so that’s what we went with. Even if you decide to diy or go somewhere else it’s helpful to have someone look at your site.
I’m a painter and I just did a job that was LVP. It’s a bit pricey but I was looking at the planks and was very impressed. Install looked easier. You can just click them in. I’m actually going to be redoing my floors and I’ll be using LVP. The ones installed at the customers house had a lifetime guarantee. I think the extra cost now will save you a bunch in the future because you’ll never have to redo them. Prices I’ve been looking at are 4.19$ sf. I’m going to do research and see what best prices are out there.
We put in Mannington Wide Plank Laminate at our previous house, and it was gorgeous and looked just like engineered. Was water resistant and didn't have that plastic feel or sound of vinyl.
Best to use a crack fix product such as Ardifix by Ardex, then a leveling product depending on the amount of “flattening” needed. Most products call for nothing less than 1/16” variance in any given area and no more than a 3/8” slope over a 10’ span. So prep is very important for both products, but especially with LVP due to the inferior locking systems that can separate easily which also leads to a lot more edge loss and issues with LVP.
This video was so helpful.Thank you for sharing this information in such an easy to understand way. I have seen other comparisons but yours was the most concise.
So i currently have LVP and I regret it. I pulled up ceramic tile for this stuff. My floors are not leveled spay time you can hear and feel the planks pop. The planks are super thin so sometimes I feel like I’m going to fall in the floor. Yes I have tone of scratches. My LVP has a dull look as well. Now I’m going to try the laminate I need something that is way thicker and durable. I feel Both has they pros and cons. If you have a very level floor or even concrete floor I think vinyl will be great. Or even placing vinyl in a basement would be ok. After pulling up my ceramic and carpet I have plywood so imagine placing super thin plastic on that. I have even spoke with other peoples that regret placing LVP in their home due to the same complaints.
I'm sorry you're having trouble with your floors😢 I'm looking for something to replace the carpets in my new home as we're going to have pets and so don't want carpet anywhere. Downstairs we have concrete and so I think that laminate would be better than vinyl because we can have underlayment with laminate. With vinyl only 1mm underlayment is possible but I think it would be too cold over concrete. I was thinking about engineered wood, but was told pets nails would scratch it. I don't know what to choose anymore 😢
We are redoing our kitchen floor. I have a dog and I we have a pool so people come through my kitchen to change in the bathroom. What would be the best floor to put down. We have tile down now and the floor would be matching up to the tile floor in my dining room. Right now we have a wooden saddle to separate the two rooms.
I thought you were going to go into the differences between the two technologies (at the upper end of each) for how realistic they look, and how durable they are on top for scratch resistance. Those are the most important factor for many people who are installing flooring.
Kind of confused on what the pros of laminate are still. Thicker? You said there are thicker LVPs. The designs look similar. And you said price is similar. It seems like a thick LVP would be the top recommendation.
Laminate is more stain resistant, scratch resistant better stronger locking systems all in all a far better product than lvp when you get a decent laminate.
For me it comes to the sound when walking on it. Installing over concrete slab, the lvp has a dull, cheap feeling “thump” whereas the laminate has a nice, woodlike, hollow sound. The first time you here someone walk in with high heels you will notice the difference. Nobody on these videos ever talks about the one thing you will encounter with every step, the sound. The lvp also scratches easily so if you have dogs DO NOT do lvp. In fact, other than it being waterproof, I do not see where lvp is superior (even then, with using waterproof wood glue in between joints of laminate you can also make it pretty much waterproof)
Laminate Is wood LVP is plastic. Laminate is water resistant. LVP is water proof. Laminate can come in many thicknesses. LVP is limited to a few thicknesses. Laminate is not as noisy to walk on. LVP is loud when waking on it especially if installed over concrete. Laminate has better protection. LVP scratches very easy.
This video is why they invented the internet! Just like I'm in the showroom. Excellent! Now... which one sounds/feels best underfoot? We're shopping for a new home, been in many with new flooring, mostly LVP, and most come off as fake looking and click-ety/hollow/echo-ey sounding. They're also quite often spongey/bouncy. Really awful stuff. I doubt that we've been on the newer laminates - one of our own houses has Grandma's laminate and it sounds okay. What's your expert opinion?
Great video. Thank you! Question: Does the new design of laminate with composite resin expand/contract less than the older type? I am going to install this new thpe of laminate and I have read that the expansion gap should be 1/4 to 1/2 inch. But due to my baseboards, I really would prefer to only give it a 1/4" for expansion. Will this be OK with new composite laminate?
I’d like a thin plank warm tone floor to put over top of my real wood golden oak floor which on would be better my room is 14 ft long by 20 ft wide , roughly how much would it cost to do
Just sand and refinish your floors with a new stain color… don’t cover real hardwoods. They have companies that can change the color if you don’t like the golden color.
So as a flood adjuster, what I'm told a lot is that once LVP is taken apart it never really goes back together correctly; is that due to improper removal?
I'm currently shopping for new flooring. I've wanted LVP for years. However, now I'm also considering laminate. According to the salesman I spoke to today, because laminate is much thicker than LVP, the locking system is also thicker. That means it can hold up better to being taken apart and then reinstalled. With LVP, since it's thinner, the locking system is also thinner and more prone to breakage. Thus making it more difficult to reinstall. The salesman was an installer for 50 years (and a third-generation installer).
I have sheet vinyl floors in upstairs bathrooms. I thought I should use LVP over the vinyl so I can get a nice look (probably gray), but perhaps I can use a laminate instead. Thoughts??? Recommendations??? Specs? Must be waterproof-ish. Tx
LVP is plastic so it should be fine if you are installing Laminate then you’ll want to lay a moisture barrier first because even if the concrete is not wet it still holds moisture.
I was shopping for flooring throughout a new build. Salespeople kept steering me to LVP. I don't like it. It feels plasticky and I couldn't find one that had the right color. I found a laminate that I like, but now some of the edges of the planks are breaking and it's already scratched in a few places.
@@armandorodriguez146 I've had spills in the kitchen that's been wiped the morning after (8 to 10 hrs) and it hasn't done any damage. I wouldn't use this in a bathroom floor that contains a shower.
and the true winner over both is a thick sheet linoleum. You can float it so no glue down, doesnt off gas like sheet vinyl ( which i love except for off gassing) and with the thicker padding attached is softer and MUCH quieter then noisy laminate ( invision a tap dance studio) OR LVP. And less costly. AND truly waterproof.
If the LVP is water resistant and has an attached waterproof pad on the bottom of each plank would one really need to first pace a water proof underlayment on a concrete basement floor, the basement is a conditioned space by a central supply and return A/C unit system? Great video.
How much difference is there in scratch resistance between them. Particularly if furniture gets bumped or slightly pushed will that likely scratch both products? Deciding between coretec pro and kronos swiss
I think laminate is a little bit more scratch-resistance than the Coretex Pro. However, Coretec has an acrylic finish and there's a third-party repair kit that can repair scratches in the acrylic finish. Whereas laminate and all other LVPs don't have the ability to repair just a single scratch.
It seems like the new laminate hasn't been around long enough to truly tell how it wears. If we're talking about 9 months with the new market, it's just not long enough to tell.
There seems to be so much misinformation on the various types and especially how the planks lock into place. One product compared their system which I think was called _'drop in locking'_ and another that uses _true tongue and groove_ The locking system of the tounge and groove seems supeior to any other as there is an audible 'CLICK' heard when when locking the 2 end pieces together with a tap of a rubber mallet. Also, it was suggested that it has a minimum 20 mil wear layer; minimum of 5 mil body and 1 mil padding. The thicker, say up to 7 mil allows more of the thickness to be used in the tongue and groove system.. *Can somebody comment or confirm or deny* those basic fundamentals?
There’s two types of locking systems drop and lock is when you put the planks in on a angle them drop them down until you hear a click. Then there a tong and grove style where you put the plank into the grove then set it down. The drop and and lock in my opinion is better because the planks hold together better. The thickness is talking about how thick the plank is most laminate products are 12mm thick which gives a nice strong plank to walk on and is the hight of most baseboards so the plank can slide right under the baseboards. There’s also ware layers referred to as AC 1 AC 2 AC 3 AC 4 and AC 5. Higher the number the better the protection is too scratches scuffs and general spills like water. Now for the overall material Laminate is wood LVP is plastic there are hybrid Laminate products that have plastic in the middle since plastic is not affected by water it can be water proof. It’s a little more expensive but worth it if you are installing it in a bathroom.
@@ryans413 What I ended up with was 7.5mm SPC flooring. This is what I found out about it: _A vinyl floor has a simple PVC core that makes it flexible and soft. The SPC vinyl planks have a core made of a stone plastic composite, which gives it a rigid construction and less pliable feel_ They said it would hold up better than others. During install, it appeared to have a groove that was pliable - not rubber, and not tonge and groove. No rubber mallets were used aside from moving it slighty to but up to the next plank then final tap in place. There were no 'clicking' sounds. I suppose this stuff is as good as any other on the market. It was made by Lawson.
EXACTLY! Those are "sales" terms". No plank flooring is protective of water getting or having water underneath. But if concrete isnt properly sealed or laided directly on soil, it CAN wick moisture. Off grade floors can wick the dampness and humidity upwards and warp floors.
LVP is completely plastic and plastic is not effected by water. Laminate is wood and will absorb water if left on the plank for too long. Water resistant is Laminate water proof is LVP
Just to sumarize: way better get laminate floor that is PVC and VOC free and you are safe. Getting entirely plastic (vinyl) floor is dangerous for your health! Just remember, US government opened a case to test and potentially ban vinyl products!!
No flooring that is click in lock is water proof to the point that water will find its way under the flooring and this is where the problem starts with siiting water growing mold.
I hate my lvp. It’s impossible to keep it clean. Shows every foot print and mark. I’ve tried every kind of cleaner, even house keeper can’t get them clean. Hate hate hate!
A huge point missed in this video For all you installers. Laminate is not click together, need to hammer it in and it sucks. Lvp clicks in and is twice is fast
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Goodness. I've watched so many videos and people just "blah blah blah" and act like they know everything. This guy actually knows everything
Our custom builder put in Aqualok brand 12 mil LVP and pieces of debris is causing pops coming through. It feels and sounds like plastic. Only good thing is easy maintenance, breeze to clean. My husband is a contractor and is taking it out next year. I’ve had hardwood in several homes and it scratches and water stains too easy. We put Pergo Timbercraft laminate in my dad’s house and loved it. Easy to clean and looked so authentic. We’re leaning in that direction again. I like a beveled edge so dirt doesn’t get in the grooves and so many brands have that groove. I wish they wouldn’t do that.
Also I go barefoot in my house and the LVP is like ice. And noisy.
When you say “noisy” - what does that mean? I was looking at installing an LVP but much thinner than a 12mil.
Ye confirmed my suspicion, imperfections appear much easier with vinyl than laminate
@@adazzlingworld3374I think they mean it doesn't reduce noise when someone's walking over it.
My understanding so far is that we can use underlayment for sound and warmth with laminate, but only 1mm ith vinyl.
What about bathrooms?
My laminate is like ice. Must wear house shoes once out of bed October through April in N. Indiana.
Excellent video, very informative and direct. Thank you for this !
Perfect level of education! I only wish my flooring company had helped me understand all this before we installed something that ultimately isn't working great for us.
I'm going to be chatting to my guy , as my house is on a slant
I have been going to do lino with some type of board to level everything. Hmm.
@@tbyersthere is a leveling compound that you can put on a floor.
Ours either. We got a crappy LVP product and it's falling apart less than 4 years later. Crappy product + fast installation by not filling in low spots of slab = disaster.
What did you install? I'm still trying to figure out which flooring would be best. I don't like texture, I feel like the grooves will absorb dirt more than a smooth non texture
Thank you. Very helpful!
Just put down LVP to replace laminate. It’s warmer underfoot, easier to lay (mine had built in underlay and one blade cut you can snap it to length) doesn’t chip, and it doesn’t matter if you spill fluids on it. In my kitchen and will be in the bathroom soon.
Funny, I just ripped out the lvp my house came with and replaced it with laminate. I like the feel and sound of it better. Chips do happen time to time but an application of color matched epoxy and no one’s the wiser. Even though it is rated for 24 hours water-resistant, in wet areas like the kitchen, I also ran a bead of waterproof wood glue in the seems. In the last house I did the same, had standing water on the main floor from a hot water heater over a weekend while I was out, and had no issue with water getting underneath and buckling the floor.
@@js6872agree…my LVP is like ice to my feet and it’s noisy. Laminate we had before was quiet..important to put down under layment with Laminate.
Which brand did you use?
I agree LVP . I installed in my master bathroom- main bathroom, third bedroom & closet, soon to be kitchen and two closets.
I bought my home with laminate installed throughout master bedroom into main living area carried into dinning area and down a hallway and second bedroom.
All the closets had 30 year old carpet.
very concise, clear, and informed explanation! refreshing!
March 1st, 2024 at 3:15pm pacific time……. thank you for all the information that you gave me watching this video. I have one question I have a mobile home and I want to replace the carpet with vinyl planking hopefully but our flooring is particleboard underneath the carpet and we have linoleum in the kitchen and bathrooms so I’m wondering if vinyl planking will still work to replace some of this flooring?
We have a plywood subfloor and we went with laminate. If you haven’t already, check with a floor store/installer. We were originally going to go with lvp, but our local store rep came out to measure and provide an estimate and suggested laminate instead, so that’s what we went with. Even if you decide to diy or go somewhere else it’s helpful to have someone look at your site.
Thank you for your variable information and your straight to the point info. 🙏🏼
I’m a painter and I just did a job that was LVP. It’s a bit pricey but I was looking at the planks and was very impressed. Install looked easier. You can just click them in. I’m actually going to be redoing my floors and I’ll be using LVP. The ones installed at the customers house had a lifetime guarantee. I think the extra cost now will save you a bunch in the future because you’ll never have to redo them. Prices I’ve been looking at are 4.19$ sf. I’m going to do research and see what best prices are out there.
That was such a great presentation of information!
We put in Mannington Wide Plank Laminate at our previous house, and it was gorgeous and looked just like engineered. Was water resistant and didn't have that plastic feel or sound of vinyl.
Any longevity issues with installing LVP over cracks in a concrete slab? How do you prep concrete with cracks for LVP? What is the process?
Best to use a crack fix product such as Ardifix by Ardex, then a leveling product depending on the amount of “flattening” needed. Most products call for nothing less than 1/16” variance in any given area and no more than a 3/8” slope over a 10’ span. So prep is very important for both products, but especially with LVP due to the inferior locking systems that can separate easily which also leads to a lot more edge loss and issues with LVP.
Thank you so much for getting right to it instead of talking about nonsense. Also the information was great
LVP has also been around quite awhile also. I’ll have to check on the difference in the warranties and if there is a difference.
Wow,this guy has so much confidence in what he's saying
wish I could be so confident with herpes
This video was so helpful.Thank you for sharing this information in such an easy to understand way. I have seen other comparisons but yours was the most concise.
Thanks for this sharing with good information also for my decision and experience in choosing for my home floor. Great !👍
Fantastic video! Thanks so much for putting it out.
Thanks for the good explanation videos now I know what to choose from for floors 👍
So i currently have LVP and I regret it. I pulled up ceramic tile for this stuff. My floors are not leveled spay time you can hear and feel the planks pop. The planks are super thin so sometimes I feel like I’m going to fall in the floor. Yes I have tone of scratches. My LVP has a dull look as well. Now I’m going to try the laminate I need something that is way thicker and durable. I feel Both has they pros and cons. If you have a very level floor or even concrete floor I think vinyl will be great. Or even placing vinyl in a basement would be ok. After pulling up my ceramic and carpet I have plywood so imagine placing super thin plastic on that. I have even spoke with other peoples that regret placing LVP in their home due to the same complaints.
This is helpful/useful info. Thank you
Not me, love my vinyl flooring thick and smooth look so beautiful!
Ashley, do you know how many mils thick your vinyl is? Yesterday I was told not to get anything less than 12 mil. I found some that is 20 mil.
@@kayBTR I thought there were only the 3 thicknesses he showed of 2, 5 and 8mm?
I'm sorry you're having trouble with your floors😢
I'm looking for something to replace the carpets in my new home as we're going to have pets and so don't want carpet anywhere.
Downstairs we have concrete and so I think that laminate would be better than vinyl because we can have underlayment with laminate. With vinyl only 1mm underlayment is possible but I think it would be too cold over concrete.
I was thinking about engineered wood, but was told pets nails would scratch it. I don't know what to choose anymore 😢
We are redoing our kitchen floor. I have a dog and I we have a pool so people come through my kitchen to change in the bathroom. What would be the best floor to put down. We have tile down now and the floor would be matching up to the tile floor in my dining room. Right now we have a wooden saddle to separate the two rooms.
Great video, thanks!
I want to redo my bathroom. Can either of these types of products have the toilet installed on top?
I’d recommend using LVP in the bathroom since it’s waterproof and I’d use a thinner plank so you can set the toilet on top.
Laminate is now waterproof, that is the point of the video. They make spacers for the toilet so you don't have to use thin LVP.
Very helpful for this complete novice. Thank you!
Hi I'm considering the Sams Club flooring- any good for moisture, mold, mildew resistant ( in a humid bedroom)?
I thought you were going to go into the differences between the two technologies (at the upper end of each) for how realistic they look, and how durable they are on top for scratch resistance. Those are the most important factor for many people who are installing flooring.
Excellent advice
Excellent, informative video!
Kind of confused on what the pros of laminate are still. Thicker? You said there are thicker LVPs. The designs look similar. And you said price is similar. It seems like a thick LVP would be the top recommendation.
Laminate is more stain resistant, scratch resistant better stronger locking systems all in all a far better product than lvp when you get a decent laminate.
For me it comes to the sound when walking on it. Installing over concrete slab, the lvp has a dull, cheap feeling “thump” whereas the laminate has a nice, woodlike, hollow sound. The first time you here someone walk in with high heels you will notice the difference. Nobody on these videos ever talks about the one thing you will encounter with every step, the sound. The lvp also scratches easily so if you have dogs DO NOT do lvp. In fact, other than it being waterproof, I do not see where lvp is superior (even then, with using waterproof wood glue in between joints of laminate you can also make it pretty much waterproof)
Laminate Is wood LVP is plastic. Laminate is water resistant. LVP is water proof. Laminate can come in many thicknesses. LVP is limited to a few thicknesses. Laminate is not as noisy to walk on. LVP is loud when waking on it especially if installed over concrete. Laminate has better protection. LVP scratches very easy.
Thanks for the recommendation!! 👍
Good information
Which one would be a better choice for a bathroom?
This video is why they invented the internet! Just like I'm in the showroom. Excellent! Now... which one sounds/feels best underfoot? We're shopping for a new home, been in many with new flooring, mostly LVP, and most come off as fake looking and click-ety/hollow/echo-ey sounding. They're also quite often spongey/bouncy. Really awful stuff. I doubt that we've been on the newer laminates - one of our own houses has Grandma's laminate and it sounds okay. What's your expert opinion?
This video was great - what do you recommend to put down in a bathroom ? Laminate or LVP ? What is your thought on Mowhawk's PureTech?
Great video. Thank you!
Question: Does the new design of laminate with composite resin expand/contract less than the older type? I am going to install this new thpe of laminate and I have read that the expansion gap should be 1/4 to 1/2 inch. But due to my baseboards, I really would prefer to only give it a 1/4" for expansion. Will this be OK with new composite laminate?
I’d like a thin plank warm tone floor to put over top of my real wood golden oak floor which on would be better my room is 14 ft long by 20 ft wide , roughly how much would it cost to do
oh my dog.. you are going to cover REAL wood... I'd do almost anything for real wood floors!!
Just sand and refinish your floors with a new stain color… don’t cover real hardwoods. They have companies that can change the color if you don’t like the golden color.
So as a flood adjuster, what I'm told a lot is that once LVP is taken apart it never really goes back together correctly; is that due to improper removal?
I'm currently shopping for new flooring. I've wanted LVP for years. However, now I'm also considering laminate. According to the salesman I spoke to today, because laminate is much thicker than LVP, the locking system is also thicker. That means it can hold up better to being taken apart and then reinstalled. With LVP, since it's thinner, the locking system is also thinner and more prone to breakage. Thus making it more difficult to reinstall. The salesman was an installer for 50 years (and a third-generation installer).
Can the be used with a heating floor?
I have sheet vinyl floors in upstairs bathrooms. I thought I should use LVP over the vinyl so I can get a nice look (probably gray), but perhaps I can use a laminate instead. Thoughts??? Recommendations??? Specs? Must be waterproof-ish. Tx
Well Explained the difference Thanks.
Do you carry porcelain tiles
A good LVP “glued down” over a prepped subfloor is the better option for humid, high traffic and pool homes.
Is naturetek plus good? Pergo outlast +?
Are moisture under basement floor ok to have lvp?
LVP is plastic so it should be fine if you are installing Laminate then you’ll want to lay a moisture barrier first because even if the concrete is not wet it still holds moisture.
I was shopping for flooring throughout a new build. Salespeople kept steering me to LVP. I don't like it. It feels plasticky and I couldn't find one that had the right color. I found a laminate that I like, but now some of the edges of the planks are breaking and it's already scratched in a few places.
Which would you prefer for herring
What is best for rv flooring. Lvp vs laminate
Is LVP good for going over tile?
Depends on how thick the LVP is and how wide the grout lines are. Grout lines can be filled in with leveling compound.
Excellent breakdown ! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 ,, if I lived in the US , I’d be On my way! To your store
Thank you
Put down Mohawk Revwood laminate. Everyone thinks its engineered hardwood and it's water resistant 👌
Has it been tested in water?
@@armandorodriguez146 I've had spills in the kitchen that's been wiped the morning after (8 to 10 hrs) and it hasn't done any damage. I wouldn't use this in a bathroom floor that contains a shower.
You have one of the best floors for the money over your left shoulder, Elandura.
Do you like glued down lvp for residential ?? The planks don’t click when installed.Gotta use pricey adhesive (pressure sensitive)..Thanks in advance!
Thank you!
Very helpful!!
and the true winner over both is a thick sheet linoleum. You can float it so no glue down, doesnt off gas like sheet vinyl ( which i love except for off gassing) and with the thicker padding attached is softer and MUCH quieter then noisy laminate ( invision a tap dance studio) OR LVP. And less costly. AND truly waterproof.
Just stop talking.
It's also ugly.
so which is thicker? And is thicker better?
Laminate. Read my review.
What is the minimum thickness I should look for?
LVP = 6.5mm, Laminate = 10mm
Thank you.
Great info..
If the LVP is water resistant and has an attached waterproof pad on the bottom of each plank would one really need to first pace a water proof underlayment on a concrete basement floor, the basement is a conditioned space by a central supply and return A/C unit system? Great video.
Most LVP manufactures advise to use 6mil underlay on concrete. I wouldn't trust the 1mm-2mm pad they put on some of these planks.
Best explanation about these two products and even the hybrid floor planks.
How much difference is there in scratch resistance between them. Particularly if furniture gets bumped or slightly pushed will that likely scratch both products? Deciding between coretec pro and kronos swiss
I think laminate is a little bit more scratch-resistance than the Coretex Pro. However, Coretec has an acrylic finish and there's a third-party repair kit that can repair scratches in the acrylic finish. Whereas laminate and all other LVPs don't have the ability to repair just a single scratch.
The only drawback while installing thick LVP is that they don't slide when locked in. So it's not possible to push them under casings and baseboards.
Awesome! Thank you for the info.
Thank you so much
It seems like the new laminate hasn't been around long enough to truly tell how it wears. If we're talking about 9 months with the new market, it's just not long enough to tell.
There seems to be so much misinformation on the various types and especially how the planks lock into place. One product compared their system which I think was called _'drop in locking'_ and another that uses _true tongue and groove_ The locking system of the tounge and groove seems supeior to any other as there is an audible 'CLICK' heard when when locking the 2 end pieces together with a tap of a rubber mallet. Also, it was suggested that it has a minimum 20 mil wear layer; minimum of 5 mil body and 1 mil padding. The thicker, say up to 7 mil allows more of the thickness to be used in the tongue and groove system.. *Can somebody comment or confirm or deny* those basic fundamentals?
There’s two types of locking systems drop and lock is when you put the planks in on a angle them drop them down until you hear a click. Then there a tong and grove style where you put the plank into the grove then set it down. The drop and and lock in my opinion is better because the planks hold together better. The thickness is talking about how thick the plank is most laminate products are 12mm thick which gives a nice strong plank to walk on and is the hight of most baseboards so the plank can slide right under the baseboards. There’s also ware layers referred to as AC 1 AC 2 AC 3 AC 4 and AC 5. Higher the number the better the protection is too scratches scuffs and general spills like water. Now for the overall material Laminate is wood LVP is plastic there are hybrid Laminate products that have plastic in the middle since plastic is not affected by water it can be water proof. It’s a little more expensive but worth it if you are installing it in a bathroom.
@@ryans413 What I ended up with was 7.5mm SPC flooring. This is what I found out about it: _A vinyl floor has a simple PVC core that makes it flexible and soft. The SPC vinyl planks have a core made of a stone plastic composite, which gives it a rigid construction and less pliable feel_ They said it would hold up better than others. During install, it appeared to have a groove that was pliable - not rubber, and not tonge and groove. No rubber mallets were used aside from moving it slighty to but up to the next plank then final tap in place. There were no 'clicking' sounds. I suppose this stuff is as good as any other on the market. It was made by Lawson.
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Waterproof or water resistant are meaningless term. Do they absorb waterfrom underneath and swell up.?
EXACTLY! Those are "sales" terms". No plank flooring is protective of water getting or having water underneath. But if concrete isnt properly sealed or laided directly on soil, it CAN wick moisture. Off grade floors can wick the dampness and humidity upwards and warp floors.
LVP is completely plastic and plastic is not effected by water. Laminate is wood and will absorb water if left on the plank for too long. Water resistant is Laminate water proof is LVP
Just to sumarize: way better get laminate floor that is PVC and VOC free and you are safe. Getting entirely plastic (vinyl) floor is dangerous for your health! Just remember, US government opened a case to test and potentially ban vinyl products!!
145 O'Kon Mills
No flooring that is click in lock is water proof to the point that water will find its way under the flooring and this is where the problem starts with siiting water growing mold.
So i guess with vinyl you can take it up dry off and replace. Laminate will be ruined need new planks
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I hate my lvp. It’s impossible to keep it clean. Shows every foot print and mark. I’ve tried every kind of cleaner, even house keeper can’t get them clean. Hate hate hate!
I want a “waterproof “ laminate. Not water resistant.
Until them LVP is king.
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Brandyn Forges
95151 Bernita Lake
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I’ve been educated
Mallory Shore
Guess what “ laminate” used to be Pergo GARBAGE
so now they redesigned it because it failed and wasn’t waterproof like they eluded to.
A huge point missed in this video
For all you installers.
Laminate is not click together, need to hammer it in and it sucks.
Lvp clicks in and is twice is fast
just buy real wood parquet
LVP is so ugly and more expensive....what a scam by the flooring industry
Same price and not ugly.
Lvp is trash
Laminate is not waterproof,, kid proof or animal proof, save your money and use LVP
super informative, thank you!
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