Why I'm Retiring my Maschine MK3

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2023
  • For the past almost three years I've used the maschine platform less and less in favor of Kontakt. I've exclusively gone back to outboard devices for most of my production which led me to question why is the MK3 still in rotation at this point... Check out my thoughts around it.
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Комментарии • 179

  • @OgDj2024
    @OgDj2024 11 месяцев назад +21

    I still have the first one, and It’s still one of the best pieces of equipment I ever worked on in my studio. And I still want the MK3!

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeahs it's good piece of gear and how you feel about it is EXACTLY how I feel about my classic MPC's 👍🏾

    • @OgDj2024
      @OgDj2024 9 месяцев назад

      @@SoundstarMusic
      I can dig that! 👍🏾

    • @dxtrs_mnpltr
      @dxtrs_mnpltr 6 месяцев назад

      Mk3 is well worth it but at this stage i’d definitely go with Maschine+ which to my opinion is the best sampling groovebox ever made

    • @AdamsOlympia
      @AdamsOlympia 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@dxtrs_mnpltr Why Maschine+ ? The CPU in it is weak sauce compared to modern computers. You can get a lot more done with an MK3 and an Apple Silicon Mac than a standalone plus. I get it for live shows, eliminating the need for laptops but for home studio use it seems redundant.

  • @l.a.beltranmusic4554
    @l.a.beltranmusic4554 Год назад +13

    This was hands down the best Midi controller I have ever used. Just wish the DAW was better.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +1

      A lot of folks utter that same sentiment. 👍🏾

  • @drfingerprints1
    @drfingerprints1 6 месяцев назад +3

    Big mistake hommie. Ive got a 4k and i use them both. Think of the maschine as a keybord made for music production. The area that the MK3 excels in it the sound library and how well it connects to my analog gear aka asr 10 and mpc 4k zoom 224 and eps 16 plus. And there are times when i want a cleaner siund and the maschine gives me just that. Plus if I want to trap or make drill beats the grid on the maschine gives me the tight timing that i look for.

  • @envisagefilmshouston
    @envisagefilmshouston Год назад +2

    WELCOME BACK BROTHA! #MPCGANG

  • @ceddmack2816
    @ceddmack2816 Год назад +5

    That’s fair. I retired my Maschine MK3 and Studio about 3 years ago after they bombed with the Maschine +. It was probably because I was expecting it to be an MPC. On MPC’s 99% of the time now. Great video.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +2

      This seems to be a trend for creatives and NI should take notice that whether classic devices or newer devices, folks are leaving them in favor of Akai so they need to do something about that. Thanks for watching. 👍🏾💯

    • @jsmacks11
      @jsmacks11 Год назад +1

      Yeah Maschine + was a huge blow to Maschine. If they would have succeeded that would have opened the floodgates to Maschine. Early in Maschines development they were a huge competitor to Akai, but Akai keeps chugging and kind of understand their users a bit more. Akai responded by developing a Mpc for many form factors and price points. The MPC keyboard was a huge blow to Maschine+. A form factor that would attract many synth lovers but with a workstation and now is a good competitor with even keyboard workstations like Yamaha and such.
      That said, I think Maschine+ is seeing what Akai (and Ableton) are doing and will follow suit.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      @@jsmacks11 Well at this point they almost have to follow suit otherwise they'll be out of the controller business lol. Honestly its not the controller that many have an issue with but its the software itself. They need to develop that to be more like a tradition DAW with "real" DAW like functions. If they release something like that with a new device that's battery powered and truly standalone then they're back in the mix.

    • @LaidbackSounds
      @LaidbackSounds Год назад +1

      @@jsmacks11 thats true but you really want to talk about the mpc keyboard lol, it is not reliable and ram get used very quick, not a good device at all better buy a kornos or other traditionnal workstations

  • @jimmyMNSTR_911
    @jimmyMNSTR_911 Год назад +1

    This vid was helpful, I'd like to know the comparison b/w a toraiz and a maschine.

  • @SOAMLE
    @SOAMLE 4 месяца назад

    Just upgraded from the mkiii to the plus. Looking forward to getting it in the mail! Love my mpc too :)

  • @seigemonstracity
    @seigemonstracity Год назад +7

    Its all in how you use it.. I use it within my daw.. so im barely in the software like that.. Maschine is BEASTY!!!

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +1

      For me it’s less about that and more about getting away from software based production. Maschine has issues for sure though.

    • @Lenron-B06
      @Lenron-B06 9 месяцев назад

      Exactly this, I am in logic with it so I really don't care about stand alone

  • @DL-1
    @DL-1 9 месяцев назад +1

    Are you still using Reason Studios? Do you have any master level techniques that you can share about producing within Reason Studios? And the Mpc Live 2?
    Thank you.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  9 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately no. I haven't used reason in a few years at this point. I can say that Reason was a joy to use when i used it. In fact I used for well over 13 years and made some great stuff with it but over time (to me) it just became less intuitive.

  • @0x80O0oOverfl0w
    @0x80O0oOverfl0w 9 месяцев назад +4

    Legit the only youtuber i've heard complain about too many updates. Meanwhile other companies release a product that never gets any updates.

    • @rebinu
      @rebinu 6 месяцев назад

      Maybe they should make the gui HD lol

    • @CannedFunkMusic
      @CannedFunkMusic 10 дней назад

      That's why I was thinking. LoL

  • @tekbeatz
    @tekbeatz Год назад +5

    I still use my mk2 heavy. Love maschine.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      👍🏾

    • @leogolive
      @leogolive Год назад +4

      @@SoundstarMusic I been using the MK1 for a decade lol. I’m still gonna keep it even though I bought the MPC X.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +1

      @@leogolive Man put the MK1 in a gold case to just marvel at how far you've come and turn on the X 🤣

    • @leogolive
      @leogolive Год назад +2

      @@SoundstarMusic 🤣🤣🤣 man it’s funny you say that because a couple years ago I found a gold skin online and put it on there! It’s clean as hell lol! I could’ve upgraded to the newer ones but I just never felt a need to.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      @@leogolive yeah it's important to know why you need to upgrade which is one thing I feel gets lost with all this new technology they dropping on us creatives.

  • @RoomAtTheTopStudio
    @RoomAtTheTopStudio Год назад +6

    Your experiences resonate with me. I gave up on Maschine a few years before you did, as the software was a strain on my computer so I went completely hardware and analogue. I eventually learned to use my old MPC500 and that was the end of using Maschine Jam. There's too many things that stop me from being able to do what I want to do with Maschine. Now I have MPC3000 and 2000XL and I'm so happy with them I don't even want the new MPCs because Maschine put me off modern grooveboxes. I'm fast on my old MPCs and I enjoy using them and they sound good. I've released stuff that I've made on them and they help to pay the bills so I'm okay

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +1

      As long as you’re getting the desired results 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @1997wayz
    @1997wayz 6 месяцев назад

    I got my eyes on this so far but I'm caught between this and the Akai Standalone which is about $200 more ,which one is better?

    • @joserivera1054
      @joserivera1054 5 месяцев назад

      Akai mpc standalone is fire.

    • @1997wayz
      @1997wayz 5 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately for Christmas I bought the maschine MK3 and I haven't been able to use it yet. I don't know if it's not getting enough power to the laptop or what. The power cord used to come with earlier versions but now it only comes with the USB I can't get past the startup screen.. I'm having trouble downloading the software, just haven't been able to use it yet in almost a month!!!

  • @EBMZEQUENZER
    @EBMZEQUENZER Год назад +4

    Are you kidding : MASCHINE rules :
    I mostly compose old school EBM : and this baby rocks :
    No more FL, LIVE, REASON, CUBASE debates ( yes so I miss some plugins) meh ...
    Got to know it very very well and everything gets done in the box
    Need to do live gig : pull out my MASCHINE JAM and all is good
    Also, I believe when M3 update is announced it will be massive and superior :
    Cheers 🥂

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +1

      I'm glad you've found a tool you enjoy for the style of music that you make. 👌🏾

    • @EBMZEQUENZER
      @EBMZEQUENZER Год назад +1

      @@SoundstarMusic I really did 👍

  • @MaritimeFox
    @MaritimeFox 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have the maschine MK3 Mikro and I just didn't get on with it. I always found myself going back to the computer, to the point where I thought, why do I even need the Mikro. I've tried to come back to it a few times but I'm just not feeling the love for the thing.

  • @markmusicman
    @markmusicman Год назад +1

    I use mine as a midi controller and love it for that.

  • @BigChiefPrinceVision
    @BigChiefPrinceVision Год назад +6

    This video hit home, cuz i feel im about to do the same, my maschine software has acting buggy since this last update, i love maschine though, i got a mpc one i guess this is sign let me know know i need to learn it more , i love sound of mpc better too. I just have to get use to the workflow , i have a great work flow on maschine.

    • @0x80O0oOverfl0w
      @0x80O0oOverfl0w 9 месяцев назад +1

      The NI DrumKit instrument will consistently crash my Mac every time.

  • @Papagramz_
    @Papagramz_ 5 месяцев назад

    I’ve been running my mk3 through FL studio for about 3 years now. Best decision I’ve ever made. the 2 integrate surprisingly well. Drums hit harder too without having to mix. I respect your opinion tho

  • @willmcelroy6376
    @willmcelroy6376 8 месяцев назад +1

    Same here man. I’ve owned and used every system under the sun, software and hardware, and to this day the best stuff I ever did, was on an mpc or reason

  • @astrangeandmysteriouspodca7168
    @astrangeandmysteriouspodca7168 7 месяцев назад +1

    I still use my machine studio... really like it. Its not my main but...im an mpc , fl studio , cubase guy first.

  • @JayfkProductions876
    @JayfkProductions876 Год назад +6

    Comparing Maschine to MPC never really made Sense...
    Most Mpc's are Standalone Devices although they have Midi too
    Most Maschines are Midi, Groove Boxes/Workstations
    If MPC software (On Pc) wasn't so trash I would have got a MPC live Or X
    But Machine software was my deciding factor..

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +1

      People will always compare anything with 16 pads to the MPC but like you I never understood that either lol🤣

    • @JayfkProductions876
      @JayfkProductions876 Год назад +1

      @@SoundstarMusic it's really just MPC Vs Maschine coz I don't see Roland or Presonus or Nektar in the Convo's 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

  • @boothbuster
    @boothbuster Год назад +10

    Maschine is the pinnacle of hybrid production. The way it implements Ideas and Scenes is simply the best - only one copy of each clip to edit across scenes, for example. And it divides things among hardware and computer perfectly. Ableton Push will just never work as something that 90% of work can be done from like with Maschine. All-hardware like MPCs are cool, but then when it comes time to mix, changing arrangement later - either you end up going back and forth, or cross-fading audio clips to extend parts of a track, etc. Maschine is the only thing that works for me to keep the sequence IN the beatbox (in Maschine), so that it's easy to edit there later. With MPC, I gave up doing the arrangement there, and just exported 16 or 32 bar loops so that I wouldn't have to do cross fades and used those for each track to arrange in Pro Tools, which definitely took more time than trying arrangement ideas in Maschine.
    It really depends on whether it's a production or a labor of love thing though. Maschine, to me, is definitely the fastest ways to come up with workable output that is still custom without using loops. It's actually SO fast/too fast, to the point that sometimes I'll just not know what to do until I listen to things on repeat 10 times over! MPC is a bit more studious in that I spend time tweaking - does it work out for the better? Who knows, sometimes it does, sometimes it probably is a placebo.
    I agree with you though that many times, it's also just as fast to just use Kontakt, synth plugins, and most of all, BATTERY... I really just enjoy the old school way of doing to all in the DAW/Pro Tools sometimes. I also realized that, for example - especially nowadays I guess vs 10 years+ ago - who cares if I use a whole instance of Battery for just ONE drum sound - I realized it's so much faster to work like that, no need to feel boxed in by one kit or make a combined custom kit - just pull one or two sounds from each! And then it's all on separate tracks like I will ultimately need also without even doing any routing, lol.
    But Maschine definitely gets a lot of sounds in front of me faster than anything else (especially due to the sound previews, can't really beat the speed of that!).

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +1

      Glad you getting a use out of it so I'd say stick to what is working for you. 👍🏾

    • @boothbuster
      @boothbuster Год назад +1

      @@SoundstarMusic Thanks my dude! At one point I'd even started mixing down out of the box with some old digital recorders... then one day I was like, what's wrong with me, this sucks, haha... :) Anyway I'm sure you'll find some things you miss about the Maschine some day. I didn't even use mine for two years at one point, so I know the feeling and the journey with gear, going back and forth.

    • @cyborgchimpy
      @cyborgchimpy 10 месяцев назад +1

      I own the Maschine MK3 and MPC live 2 myself. in my very honest opinion, akai/MPC has incredible sound design going on. everything that comes out of it sounds PRISTINE. it also has a couple features which are super quick and cool to use like note repeat and 16 level etc. the touchscreen can in some parts also be super handy, though I dont like that some things are exclusive to the touchscreen and it seems they opted for less hardware buttons in favor of pressing stuff on the screen and menu diving. it is also much better as a centerpiece in a studio set up since its inputs/outputs are way more extensive and function properly(unlike Maschine..). and I havent used this much but the fact you can have 8x16 pads assigned to one track is sick as well. I also like that the sampler is MUCH MUCH better on the MPC than Maschine. the way you can manipulate them...the sound... and the intuitive UI around it is simply KING. being able to make your own keys in such a deep way is also amazing.
      now what actually brings me back to the Maschine is that NI simply has way more and way better softwaresynths(even though MPC's have better UI standalone for them), a MODERN and way better way to navigate through your library (MPC is way too oldschool IMO with folder structure). Maschine has immense amounts of sounds, a better songmode, a better overview of your entire project, more knobs which are intuitively placed below the screen so you can directly see what they are currently assigned too(I really dont like how it works with the MPC having to switch with the q-ling button and actively search where they are currently assigned to on the screen).. every pad can essentially be loaded with a synth, or a sample.. whereas with MPC you have to choose what type of instrument you are using for the "track".
      and last but not least..i'm very sorry Akai, but Maschine MK3 has the most miraculous and expressive feeling pads.
      i'm sure i've missed a lot but this would've been an even bigger wall of text, so i'll leave it as is. I prefer my Maschine MK3, even though I got the MPC live 2 for its standalone functionality. that said, the MPC probably still beats the Maschine+ as a standalone groovebox. Native instruments is just way too new in the standalone field.

    • @boothbuster
      @boothbuster 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@cyborgchimpy Exactly, this is why I believe (and said) the Maschine is the best hybrid device. MPC and Force are some of the best standalone devices. Maschine is just a very quick production workflow - so fast, that sometimes I feel like I didn't even make the music, lol! (well, I do, of course, but it's so quick to add a new group and pick the right sound and keep going)
      What I do like about Akai's setup is that the plugins and effects, while more limited, do sound good and they give a very good layout on-screen (and mapped q-links on the X and the Force, since those have 16 and 8 knobs), so that it's really easy to craft a sound from a preset or from scratch with little effort.
      I do think Maschine can do many of those things you mentioned on the Akai. Sampling-wise, to me, the Toraiz and SP just feel more like "samplers" for some reason, weird, right... Maschine can do a lot but just doesn't seem central since there's so much stuff, and for some reason sampling on the MPC even seems like it's no longer the central purpose (which is weird to say, I know!).
      And yeah, kinda crazy how the pads just seem that bit more responsive on the Maschine. I do like my X's pads though... haven't tried my old Live in a while and I forget if they're the same or not. (I think they are, it's the One that is smaller size pads...)

    • @Lenron-B06
      @Lenron-B06 9 месяцев назад +2

      Sound previews and ease of use is one of the reasons I plan on using maschine for years to come. I am a blind hobbyist producer, and the push nor the mpc has the accessibility I can get with maschine or the native instruments keyboards.

  • @dwaynemusik
    @dwaynemusik Год назад +1

    You need the akai mpcx I want one I got machine mk2 at the time but wanted an akai

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      I have two classic MPC's already and at this stage less is more for me. Not trying to invest in anymore MPC's LOL 🤣

  • @CDMESD
    @CDMESD Год назад +2

    Great Video. I feel the same way about my Maschine Plus. I liked it but now I have a love hate relationship with it. There are issues.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +1

      Yeah I can see that. It's about time for them to drop something new. In either case though for me personally I'm done with maschine. Won't be buying another one. 👍🏾

    • @CDMESD
      @CDMESD Год назад +1

      @@SoundstarMusic Me either. I think I am done, too.

  • @leogolive
    @leogolive Год назад +4

    Say man that intro music is jamming for real…I been using Maschine for years and finally bought a MPC X when the SE came out. I know it’s not one of the classic ones and I’m not even finna get into that because people have run that whole topic into the ground. But I feel the same way as you, although the X kinda has a built in computer with a touchscreen. It’s a different experience that I prefer over Maschine and I think it sounds far better.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +2

      Thanks! Yeah for me it's less to do with the actual comparison of devices but more of the fact that I really dont use maschine as often as before and I think Akai did a nice job with the MPC software which I think personally has a better UI and user workflow. It's just what I'm used to.
      Classic devices are nostalgia at this point but they do have a different sound mainly because of the components in them that were used to make them way back when. 👍🏾

  • @89thebestever
    @89thebestever Год назад +1

    Dope

  • @auroranamex5886
    @auroranamex5886 Год назад +2

    I ditched my maschine mk3 to buy push 2, and I was missing my baby badly, so I had to buy it once again. Push wasn't that fun at all. I think I'll try the mpc workflow one day, many mk3 users love it. But for now I'm with maschine. Good luck in mpc realm!

    • @lartisan6274
      @lartisan6274 Год назад

      why not " studio one + atomSQ "

    • @auroranamex5886
      @auroranamex5886 11 месяцев назад

      @@lartisan6274 , actually, I'm not aware of any benefits of this setup

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 8 месяцев назад

      Hunt down a Jam and you likely wont look back

  • @Mark-vf8op
    @Mark-vf8op 8 месяцев назад +1

    I got my maschine studio as a central best bought piece of equipment I ever bought

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  8 месяцев назад

      Almost bought the studio but waited a few weeks and got the MK3. The Studio is a nice controller as well. I have just outgrown anything maschine has to offer me at this point as I enjoy the more simplistic workflow approach of older devices.
      Thanks for watching and enjoy the maschine studio! 👍🏾

  • @Cornholio0494
    @Cornholio0494 6 месяцев назад

    I use my maschine mk3 with bitwig only i gave up on maschine software despite the workflow.
    It's a beast

  • @Bashanvibe
    @Bashanvibe Год назад +2

    I don’t own the Machine anymore I use to have the first generation!!! But while still following NI I’ve learned to only purchase what is catered to you style!!! But I get it you prefer what you like nothing wrong about that!!! When I get ready to upgrade I’ll just Komplet and stick with the software my hardware is going to be the Fantom new flagship!!! Btw new sub!!!

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      Yeah I removed all the komplete stuff that I don't use or need from my computer at this point. You'll be surprised how many gigs of space you get back LOL 🤣

  • @marclemar
    @marclemar Год назад +1

    I got Maschine back in 2015 for all the same reasons because it gave me that a old feeling of touch. Fast forward I have a Maschine +, MPC Live II and just picked up an X SE a few weeks ago. Now one gotta go!!! I’m so familiar with Maschine software it makes it tough the major problems is MASCHINE BE TRIPPING!! Files are always missing or something isn’t loading properly it’s just an utter mess with Maschine when it comes to keeping things working smoothly. I’m about to track all my Maschine beats and be DONE!! Ima miss the days when everything works fine tho I love the Maschine workflow

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +2

      Yeah the XSE and the Live II give you the same workflow just in different form factors and its on the same platform as well. #RIPMaschine 🤣

    • @boomboombaby9140
      @boomboombaby9140 Год назад +2

      @@SoundstarMusic I have a live 2 and it’s a one and done for me 😂😂😂

  • @AlliedForcesTv
    @AlliedForcesTv Год назад +2

    Ouuu boy I got my maschine next to me listening to this and she ain’t like a word she heard 😂😂

  • @730productionsllc
    @730productionsllc 10 месяцев назад

    I just use the M+ and the KK32 as a controller for my iPad Pro now that Logic Pro is on the iPad as well as BeatMaker 3

  • @djsmoothc39able
    @djsmoothc39able 11 месяцев назад

    Love my mk3 I had a mpc 2000 on 2004-2006 then came reason and 2014 maschine studio

  • @shadezondabeat6121
    @shadezondabeat6121 Год назад +1

    I got the Mpc live 2 recently but it wont connect to the software my friend has the same problem, i think Maschine is more stable than the Mpc

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      Try using it minus connecting it to the computer. See if that works. Connecting it to computer makes it a controller that just controls the software. The hardware has the same functionality on its own .

    • @shadezondabeat6121
      @shadezondabeat6121 Год назад +1

      @Soundstar Music I'd like it to work as intended, I paid £880 for a unit that's not stable, its annoying bro 😒

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      @@shadezondabeat6121 Connecting it to the computer was an optional feature saying that "you could" but the Live II as with all new MPC's are mostly intended to function as independently as possible. Sorry you are having that issue though. I'd contact Akai ASAP! 👍🏾

    • @AboutHouseMusic
      @AboutHouseMusic Год назад

      You may have forgotten to install the driver. See if that helps.

    • @shadezondabeat6121
      @shadezondabeat6121 Год назад

      @aHM That's the 1st thing I did bro, it was a faulty unit, I had to send it back. I'm about to return a second Mpc because it's got a slow internal drive after update 2.12, sometimes it don't load up it just gets stuck on the boot up screen😢. I have reinstalled the firmware a few times but it still runs slow

  • @multipreach2674
    @multipreach2674 Год назад +1

    Send it my way homie.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      Naw my youngin' likes his mikro so the MK3 is an upgrade for him 🤣

  • @devonleblanc9152
    @devonleblanc9152 16 дней назад

    I love it, I just make everything in MK3 VST on FL and drag in either the midi or raw wavs

  • @ajaesterling
    @ajaesterling Год назад +1

    Mannnn. I just put mine up for sale. I did some hard thinking this morning and Im retiring mine too. I went to the fil;es and took all the drum etc in the "samples" folder and imported everything so i have the sounds, but yeah...its time for me to let it go. It was like a funeral bro! lol. But I had to do it.

  • @boomboombaby9140
    @boomboombaby9140 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love MPC sofware because its software with a hardware workflow. Everything is in your face like a digital MPC

  • @reggieware6751
    @reggieware6751 9 месяцев назад +1

    That’s word life different strokes for different folks come from that old-school error. The worst standalone didn’t even exist because everything was standalone and I’m 60 years old now right and I love my MK3 I wish I could let you hear some of the stuff that I do with it

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  9 месяцев назад

      Yeah I liked the Maschine platform as a whole when I first got it (except the software) and I made a lot of great tunes with it as well. I think as a creative the tool doesn't matter (sometimes) because we'll find a way but as time went on I just found more comfort and joy in My MPC's (4K and 2KXL) because it made me go back and remember how songs were made...and I love making music that way. Thanks for watching!

  • @billbradleymusic
    @billbradleymusic 6 месяцев назад

    Funny, I am older than you and the machine mk3 is the hands down coolest piece of gear I've ever used.

  • @joserivera1054
    @joserivera1054 5 месяцев назад

    I sold mines bro....I use my mpc live when I'm on the couch and my X when I'm in my little studio.

  • @richardrandlejr1954
    @richardrandlejr1954 6 месяцев назад

    So basically preference of software and workflow. I personally like Maschine 2 with my Jam and S25, I sketch there then transfer to logic to complete and mix.

  • @KabukiStarship
    @KabukiStarship 4 месяца назад

    For me, I never used those old ones so I'm looking at something new and different. I have an Arturia Spark LE, I should just use that, but I love the 4x4 drumpad. I got the Presonus Atom drumpad and it feels great for snare rolls.

  • @ZETONEproductions
    @ZETONEproductions Год назад +2

    Did this 3 times ,, now the Mk3 and my jam stays ,, Maschine is very very powerful ,, next to my X

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 8 месяцев назад

      You have a Jam, ofc you arent bout to give up Maschine. Maschine is great, but Jam makes it just incredible

  • @mycosys
    @mycosys 8 месяцев назад +1

    If you wanna get Maschine back into your workflow - add a Maschine Jam - the combo for sequencing and mixing is just unreal. Just try to ignore that fact its software lol.
    I run it stand-alone beside my daw (not plugin) basically as a Drum Machine and tape/arranger setup - but like you thats the way i started out. It gets its own monitor, its kinda like using an old-school system that could support a monitor.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  8 месяцев назад +1

      yeah my friend has that same setup. MK3+Jam lol lol He likes it a lot too👌🏾💯

  • @galvanizingtechniques1111
    @galvanizingtechniques1111 5 месяцев назад

    Man i love my Maschine MK3!!!.

  • @darkwine78
    @darkwine78 9 месяцев назад +1

    it is all about preference and the user...

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  9 месяцев назад

      Correct. I used it for a few years and made some great stuff on it..but just prefer classic MPC's. Thanks for watching. 👍🏾

  • @nicholass6183
    @nicholass6183 Месяц назад

    1 min in... alright youtube, b4 we get started!

  • @ildarkinildarkin
    @ildarkinildarkin 7 месяцев назад +1

    Well, both MPC Software and Maschine software are similar in terms of their capabilities and both are groovebox-like softwares (not complete DAW). If you are coming form MPC world and got used to MPC workflow - there is no reason to switch to Maschine as it's the same thing in terms of capabilities.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching. I do feel that Maschine and the MPC Software are different though but in terms of if something is capable of the job then yes I'm following your logic.

  • @730productionsllc
    @730productionsllc 10 месяцев назад +1

    Maschine plus ain’t shit either. I don’t have a computer but I assumed I could still do some stuff within M+ by using some stuff I had purchased when I had the mk3. Boy did I get pissed when I realized my money went to the wrong thing.

  • @RobEFresh8155
    @RobEFresh8155 Месяц назад

    Love the Mk3 but hate arranging inside of machine software.

  • @jsmacks11
    @jsmacks11 Год назад +3

    MPCs have a well thought out sequencer for getting ideas down. I think that is there biggest plus.
    There are good DAW sequencers that surpasses the MPC in many areas but it usually involves a higher level of complexity and reliance on mouse and key commands which takes away the feel you get with dedicated buttons.
    I remember when a producer showed me how to use a mpc in like 10 minutes back in 97 then left the room. The learning curve was almost instant.
    Most DAWS require a good bit of manual reading or tutorials to get the most out of them.
    Maschine while a great product has alot of weird modes that can be non-intuitive. Took awhile to wrap my head around it. That said the workflow has improved some but still requires a good study to get alot out of it. I think someone with an MPC background will find alot of weird quirks. I do love NIs browser system. It is something they did right and well thought out but Maschine is kind of made to work with a PC and a main DAW.
    That said I have been an Ableton user for 16 years. It is not as intuitive as an MPC (but intuitive nontheless) but is also a great program and starts excelling when you get later in a production. Ultimately I end up using Ableton for my Maschine needs.

  • @oldmanfresh
    @oldmanfresh Год назад +2

    Retiring mine as well. I only use it as an interface. I can do everything quicker in Logic.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      Yeah it's tough to beat LPX as far value + cost. LPX does a lot and its been my DAW of choice for a LOOOOOONNNG time. Even with me using hardware for most of my productions. Getting it into LPx is easy and then adding to it is just icing on the cake so I TOTALLY feel you! 👍🏾

    • @LaidbackSounds
      @LaidbackSounds Год назад

      @@SoundstarMusic if you love Logic yu will like studio one even better lol far better than logic ( i come from logic as well)

  • @silklion7375
    @silklion7375 8 месяцев назад +2

    I hate Maschine software is just halfway. I cant arrange songs fluently with it. Might be my workflow and becuz Im more used to DAW timelines, but this parterned based timeline really annoys me

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  8 месяцев назад

      Yeah, a lot of users have stated the same. I think it's an acquired taste actually. I would always just lay the foundation of what I wanted to do there and then export to Logic (drag and drop) and arrange everything on that side.

  • @politicum8113
    @politicum8113 7 месяцев назад +1

    What i find, mpc software much more creative for soundesign than NI. Im ableton user. I dont like mpc sequencer, but soundesign, fx, omg! Awesome.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  7 месяцев назад

      Yeah I think both programs offer great things for the creative mind...but for me, as a producer, it was more of the workflow thing and looking to use something every day that allows my creative process to get straight to it...and it just wasn't/isn't NI Maschine.
      Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing your thoughts as well. 👍🏾

  • @laidbackmedia
    @laidbackmedia 8 месяцев назад +1

    Smart move.
    Ever notice none of the samples were in the right key?

  • @user-bv7ww4wr3n
    @user-bv7ww4wr3n 7 месяцев назад

    Maschine is actually a *Dongle-ized midi device* - There's practically *no real midi-controller integration* within a DAW or with other external midi devices.
    It's good for what it does. But it's still an outdated *'Dongle-ized'* Groove Box. I could never say that it is a midi-controller.

  • @CrisCozy
    @CrisCozy 5 месяцев назад

    I have MPC Beats and NI
    NI software is way more intuitive than MPC Beats. IMO MPC’s hardware look better than NI but NI workflow is better.

  • @donjuan2421
    @donjuan2421 Год назад +1

    Word.. I started with a 2000 classic, got a Maschine mk2 then went and got a Ren a few years ago... Maschine just doesn't compare, hardware, software or sound, simple as that

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      Appreciate your perspective. 👍🏾

    • @jsmacks11
      @jsmacks11 Год назад +1

      Sound is pretty good on Maschine. I think their workflow is the biggest issue. It's sequencer is just not as intuitive as MPC. That said it has alot of good things (great pads, powerful sampler, synths, effects, browser).
      My main gripes:
      1. It feels more like a controller and less like an instrument. Ableton Push also feels like a controller but it is better designed to work with its software and provides extra functionality to the program (easier to get to quantize functions, step sequencing, note repeat).
      2. The software itself isn't that flexible or intuitive. Ableton software on the other hand can make good use without the controller.
      I think honestly Maschine need to get their software usable to the point where you need the hardware less. Make the software free even or at least cheap. That alone would increase hardware sales and force them to improve the software.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      @@jsmacks11 Yup same gripes I've seen about it for years now so hopefully NI listens.

  • @lartisan6274
    @lartisan6274 Год назад +1

    NI , Ableton, Arturia are big company, if they really wanted, they could make a great groove box, but no. I think they are partner in screat. Why maschine, or NI dont have a daw, and they show always in demo Ableton. They just put them money on " expansion, sounds " even no new vst since longtimes

  • @nukenoly8751
    @nukenoly8751 Год назад +1

    Use the mk3 as a controller with Battery in your DAW

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +1

      I'm all outboard analog mostly now. Battery is very limiting as well IMO.

  • @jskillzmusic9150
    @jskillzmusic9150 Год назад +1

    MPC still has more updates , it’s annoying

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      I haven't had to update my 4K and 2KXL is years! 🤣
      Seriously though LPX is my DAW of choice and has been for quite a while since LP8 Studio. I use the MPC software from time to time when I just want to mess around with it but I still feel it is better than the maschine software in my opinion.

  • @issiewizzie
    @issiewizzie Год назад +2

    I say treat Maschine as a classic device ..lol

  • @mrjohnwilkesbooth
    @mrjohnwilkesbooth 9 месяцев назад +1

    😅 The Ntro 😅

  • @BlockBallerRecords
    @BlockBallerRecords Год назад +2

    I been owned Mpcs and Maschines all versions except for the new mpcs and I just stuck with the mk2 mini because if you know how to simply use it as a sequencer THATS IT= Drop it in your Daw of preference it’s all the same the Music doesn’t change because of the Drum Machine YOU MAKE THE MUSIC NOT THE DRUM MASCHINE 😂😂

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  8 месяцев назад

      The tool one chooses to use however matters in my opinion. the mini works for your workflow I'm assumining .

  • @HitzdropBeats
    @HitzdropBeats Год назад +2

    There’s a whole stand alone

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      Oh you're talking about that other device that looks just like this one ... lol 🤣(sarcasm)

    • @HitzdropBeats
      @HitzdropBeats Год назад +1

      @@SoundstarMusic yeah that one …but I get it as creatives most are all over the place when it comes to inspiration. I have em all so I feel your struggle

    • @leogolive
      @leogolive Год назад

      Funny thing is I wanted Native Instruments to make a standalone Maschine for years and when they finally did I wouldn’t buy it. I heard there were issues with it and I decided that if I’m going stand-alone then I’m going with a company who has it mastered.

  • @ernestparker7261
    @ernestparker7261 Год назад +1

    No dafuq you not, maschine 4 life

  • @spamspam7265
    @spamspam7265 2 месяца назад

    I have both Maschine is better then MPC workflow

  • @krazyFLoops
    @krazyFLoops 3 месяца назад

    He could just write that down 🤪

  • @EricRabb
    @EricRabb Год назад +7

    Native gotta fix its song mode, we need mutes, also a recordable performance mode.

    • @JackAcid
      @JackAcid Год назад +1

      Yes, yes, and yes again. Very frustrating.

  • @brucehathcockmusic
    @brucehathcockmusic Год назад +1

    Great intro song

  • @TylerDurdenXIII
    @TylerDurdenXIII Год назад +1

    Mk3 hardware design and building is cool but de Mashine DAW is one of de worst i never see !! 🤮

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      that seems to be the thing that most people say about it as well.

    • @Lenron-B06
      @Lenron-B06 9 месяцев назад

      I don't get the problem, just load it as a plugin inside your DAW and problem solved.

  • @HOLLASOUNDS
    @HOLLASOUNDS Год назад +1

    As a Reason user since 2006, I invite you to come back to Reason, look at My face 😇 come on back brother.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +1

      I was a reason user before you were 🤣 (2003) I honestly loved reason and used it for over 13 years but it does not compete in my opinion with LPX. Nothing does to me for that matter. R12 is still on my computer because I have so many tracks in reason still, but I could never go back to it for anything really at this point. The intro beat to this video was made in it almost 10 years ago... no cap 💪🏾

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS Год назад +1

      @@SoundstarMusic How about you use Reason Rack plugin instead, you might as well since you have 12? Lots of fun devices to play with 😇👍.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      @@HOLLASOUNDS NAW I'm good. 👌🏾

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS Год назад

      @@SoundstarMusic 😭

  • @superbeziJ
    @superbeziJ Год назад +1

    so basically, you got tired of the update and fumbling with the knob. And you got bored of the unit.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      In addition to always being tied to a computer to create music as well. But NI needs to spend more time on their DAW vs their sound library in my opinion. The Maschine software is limited in comparison to other DAWS such as LPX, Pro Tools, Ableton, FL Studio.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 8 месяцев назад +1

      Its a groovebox, not a DAW, @@SoundstarMusic - how many DAWs run as a plugin?

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  8 месяцев назад

      @@mycosys groovebox, controller whatever name we put there it is still tied to a computer that uses a software application as the brain of the unit. The software itself is the problem not the controller. The controller isnt hard to learn because its mapped to functions in the software. LPX is superior to Maschine in my opinion as they are both software applications used to make music aren't they? 🤷🏾‍♂

  • @ChuckDeeBeats
    @ChuckDeeBeats 8 месяцев назад +1

    you cant even manually slice samples anymore on the new mikro. softwares always been trash but a few years back you could actually chop with the mikros. do not buy new mk3 mikro its useless

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  8 месяцев назад +2

      oh, no worries I'm out of the Maschine world altogether. I just open the software to sample some sounds out of it into my MPC's 😁

    • @mrjohnwilkesbooth
      @mrjohnwilkesbooth 7 месяцев назад +1

      😅😅😅 frfr - the library is the only thing that is noteworthy. The Maschine is slowly dying. I don't see a need for another newer model imho 🤔 the sequencer is too basic for my needs so I don't use it anymore. Honestly, an mpc does at least offer you the ability to connect different time signatures together in a song.
      The only thing keeping the maschine alive is NI expansions (Library).
      Having a Maschine is like having a 🔥chic but her Punani is straight🗑️. I'd rather have a regular chic with the 💣 Punani!!! 😅
      😅😂

  • @marcelochagra3307
    @marcelochagra3307 Год назад +1

    Inspiration has nothing, NOTHING to do with what you mention in this video (in the sense that the hardware inspires you).
    No, the inspiration arises in the mind, if you don't have that, you don't have anything no matter how much hardware you buy.
    That changing hardware can make your work flow is another thing entirely.
    It also has nothing to do with the issue of NI releasing a package every hour. No, that has nothing, NOTHING to do with the context of what you say.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад

      (1) Inspiration comes from many things and is different for everyone so let's not kid ourselves.
      (2) Workflow is an over-saturated term to a degree, that being said for me personally simplicity is better but even in a complex technological era we are in LPX as many other DAWS are, just are better in my opinion to NI Maschine.
      (3) NI's overkill of instruments is something I don't believe they need help in. They are the leaders in the category. That also being said and over abundance of too much of the same stuff can stifel the creative process which I stated in a previous video.
      (4) Your opinion is yours 👍🏾

    • @marcelochagra3307
      @marcelochagra3307 Год назад

      @@SoundstarMusic No. It has already been proven over and over again that inspiration DOES NOT HAVE to do with changing gadgets.
      Mozart buying an MPC because he didn't feel "inspired" with violins?
      Elvis giving up his guitar and buying a marimba because the guitar no longer "inspired" him?
      Michael Jackson dancing cumbia because Break Dancing no longer "inspired" him?
      As the saying goes: "it's not the arrow, it's the Indian".
      If there is something that history has shown time and time again, it is that inspiration is born and dies in the head. The rest is accessory.
      There's no reason to make music inspired by a Maschine, and then not be able to do it on that same Maschine.
      It is the head, the brain; therein lies the whole thing, not in the new (or old) toys.
      But I want to be fair and say that you have a point that works for you, and that it is not a general rule.
      I understand.

  • @kenny-vk5ry
    @kenny-vk5ry Год назад +7

    all them drum machines do the same thing .fools be talking like its some kind of science too them.

    • @SoundstarMusic
      @SoundstarMusic  Год назад +5

      The basics yes (program, sequence, arrange etc..) but I respectfully disagree. (1) Maschine is controller not a drum machine, (2) different drum machines offer different features which allows the freedom to affect sound (3) Internal components used to make the devices matter and (4) lastly all that is science that's why companies spend tons of $$$$ on the research that goes into every component .
      In the end these are just tools used to make music 💯

    • @spamspam7265
      @spamspam7265 8 месяцев назад

      Stock v stock MPC wins

  • @BigChiefPrinceVision
    @BigChiefPrinceVision Год назад +1

    This video hit home, cuz i feel im about to do the same, my maschine software has acting buggy since this last update, i love maschine though, i got a mpc one i guess this is sign let me know know i need to learn it more , i love sound of mpc better too. I just have to get use to the workflow , i have a great work flow on maschine.

  • @BigChiefPrinceVision
    @BigChiefPrinceVision Год назад

    This video hit home, cuz i feel im about to do the same, my maschine software has acting buggy since this last update, i love maschine though, i got a mpc one i guess this is sign let me know know i need to learn it more , i love sound of mpc better too. I just have to get use to the workflow , i have a great work flow on maschine.