Remco needs a good surface where he can generate power on souplesse. Cobblestones, gravel or dirt are not his thing. Against the big engines like van Aert and Vanderpoel he will tire out. Look at Glasgow, constantly braking and then accelerating is for riders who can do over 1000 watts over and over again. So no RVV. Squeezing to the front of the peloton over and over again with his size is just a bad idea, risking injuries. San Remo maybe, he could probable end close.
Kuypers was a big CX story. He worked in a factory to fund his CX then gave himself a year to get a pro contract. Had some v.good results…bit inconsistent but he got on the BandB CX team so move to road squad seems relatively logical. I imagine he’s been doing a lot of endurance training over the Winter.
I think it’s a bit weird with LBL, because in theory, every GT Rider could ride it. It is in the perfect spot because it fits in the Giro preparation as well as before the build up towards the TdF. The reason because it was so bad this year is because Roglic and Remco were injured and it was like this for the last years. Also Jonas isn’t interested in the Ardennes at this stage of his career. If he will turn his mind at it, LBL probably will be one of the most exciting races all season.
I think the reason the hilly classics don’t get much attention is because you can’t really see how steep the climbs are on TV or wherever you watch the race. I’ll see the graphic saying it’s an 11% gradient yet it looks like it’s almost flat. You need the backdrop of a mountain parcours to really appreciate how tough the climbs are.
Thibaut Nys had a real bad spell in his CX season, with the team & entourage claiming he was burned up. He skipped a bunch of races after really underperforming, never really getting back to his previous seasons' level. Might have a ring of truth, he did ride a lot of races in the 2023 calendar year, so I'm thinking they tried to have him rest and charge up for a summer season of road cycling. The potential is certainly there, so makes sense they would take the careful approach at his age.
Giro Tour WC is the triple crown of cycling by tradition. Stephen Roche was the last to pull it off. El Patron slowly grew back into his role but on the last day he was a joy to watch.
I know you don't want to hear it LR and Benji but I'm really looking forward to the prospect of Pogi soloing to loads of victories at Il Giro and le Tour 😁 Will be a shame if the rest are not able to compete with Pogi but I still love the spectacle 😉
Kopecky has confirmed that she won't be riding the Tour this year as she wants to focus on Olympics, so that answers the question about whether they will ride for Vollering
At 24:20 Patrick bemoaned the fact that World Championship road races "never have a flay sprint anymore. Unfortunately." I thought the parcors in Glasgow last year produced an exciting attritional race in which the cream rose to the top and fought it out for the title. The parcors had never-ending corners so riders were constantly gas on, gas off. The final four remaining to contest the finish were van der Poel, van Aert, Pogacar, and Pedersen.
The Ardennes are less important for the same reason the Giro is greater than La Vuelta, we have 1 day fatigue by now. If LBL was in the San Remo slot it would be huge
@@thanosduckplease The Mur de Huy is very exciting I'll give you that. All the DNFs from the weather could kind of go either way entertainment-wise depending on what you enjoy.
5:38 Harper’s crash wasn’t because of a bumpy road. It was because of a curb up onto a pavement that was very hard to distinguish from the road surface. The pavement was tarmaced with a very similar material so looked very similar to the road surface, and because it was so wide, the curb looked like the line that marks the middle of the road. After Ben O’Connor crashed in exactly the same spot due to mis-understanding the road surface/furniture in the same way, a spectator stood there acting as a marshal to warn the other riders of the danger. Obviously those two were pushing it because they had attacked, but in this instance it seemed like this needed to be marked out with a marshal or something by the organisers. Thankfully Harper is relatively okay with a ‘mild concussion’. Could have cbeen a lot worse the way he landed.
Romandie actually IS the french speaking part of Switzerland. Also, in "Ovronnaz" we don't pronounce the final "z", like in all names from the region that finish with a " z"
It wouldnt make any sense for Pogacar to ride the Vuelta after the Giro/Tour double against a fully prepared Vingegaard. It would be impossible to win.
@@simon6495 There is no opportunity. If Jonas DNFs someone else will beat him. The Giro/Tour double is already insanely hard. Winning the Vuelta afterwards is just impossible.
@@alexqq14 Sure but it's Pogacar. He is ambitious and will consider his options if he actually wins Giro and Tour. He propably still goes for Worlds/Olympics/Lombardia, but still, one can dream.
Vingegaard at 100% is the most dominant climber since Pantani. All of the best climbing performances last year were from the Dane. Pogacar would need to pull a tactical masterclass to beat him, but who knows for sure?
Looking for some good competitive riding in Tour de Romandie. A 1.4 mile prologue seems kind of lame to me, but I guess we will find out who can brake and accelerate out of corners the fastest. The mountain stages should be entertaining.
Guys You clearly forgot Sanremo in the Best Race Discussion 😅 MSR was a CRACKER as always. Couldn’t have predicted the winner until 5 secs before the finish line.
if pogi would win tdf, Jonas would always go to la vuelta, which would make it quite hard, to win there. But yeah, ofc you go for ist..., if you have still anything in you.
I love what you guys do but I can't follow half of what your talking about. I need visuals to remind me of the teams and who the people are.., who was even at the race, what type of race and course it was, who were the major riders and teams and what the results were. I always tune in but I always tune out after 20 minutes or so.
There’s a big question about rider recruitment and why some teams are very poor at it because they’ve never really developed their own riders and seem stuck in the 1980’s. Maybe they all need to read money ball or move people like Patrick L sidewards. Great points about young Spanish and French riders. Re Total it looks like they’re not accountable for rider performance …or recruitment. It was obvious Sagan was phoning his performances in and it will be astonishing if Julian A gets near his peak form.
I think Pogi would rather win worlds than Vuelta this year. But if he can get the giro tour double and low(ish) competition for the Vuelta he should do it.
Hello guys, you have a lot of interesting information, but I think you were wrong about the consequences of the LBL fall. The jury has neutralized the race to allow the fallen riders and those who were hindered as a result to return because they had made a mistake in removing the cars between the 2 groups, while if riders fall behind due to bad luck, they are allowed to come back between the cars. So it's very strange to talk about a DQ for the riders who returned, while they were seriously disadvantaged because they had to chase for an hour and lost a lot of energy.
Yeah but it’s the fact that the other teams had spent energy so they could be at the front to avoid crashes, so the riders at the back of the peloton run the risk of being caught behind a crash. So it’s not fair for the riders at the front to just let the riders running the risk at the back to get motor paced after being caught behind a crash 30km ago
@@LM.211 You can't all be at the front, and that's what causes accidents.....About time race officials were pro active after crashes.....Like in motor racing with double waved yellows.
@@LM.211 That is not a strong argument because there will always be a battle for positions with or without a crash. In fact, they already had an advantage because it would have taken a kilometer or more for those riders to get back to the back after that fall, in which they could not improve their positions. Moreover, it was extremely unsportsmanlike to try to eliminate your opponents who were held up by a fall that they could not do anything about. What a sick mentality there is in cycling. And then this behavior naturally increases the chance of many more crashes because they will try even harder to be at the front of the peloton.
'wiebes can climb' is based on what? her result in amstel which was chopped down too 100k race? half of the peleton were on the breakaway group. pls dnt say de ronde.
@@PHHE1 huh? women's races only feature half of the climbs from the men's races. assuming that rule doesn't apply for msr and they keep all the climbs (3 capos, chipressa & poggio). for women sprinters, that's still alotta climbing (assuming, 1. the length of the race stays fairly long and 2. womens peleton ride full gas like the men do). lotta assuming on my part as we don't even know what kinda race its going to be. this is why they hesitated on doing the women's version of msr all this time. cos it's gonna look, less like a sprinters classics and more like an endurance race, or a puncheurs race if they decide to keep all the climbs and cut the length to around 150K, like in the standard women's race. so assuming women's msr is over 200K long and will feature all the climbs from men's race. longo borghini, cecile uttrup ludgwig, lianna lippert, silvia persico, elise chabbey, puck pieterse are some of the riders wiebes won't be able to follow. only way lorena wins, is if kopecky and vollering mark all the attacks. but those two are selfish glory hunters and i wouldn't hold my breath. plus demi is leaving sd this winter. only reason i would want the women's version of msr is for marianne vos to win it. just like with joke of a paris-roubaix, which only features half of the cobbled sectors and no arenberg.
@@Andy_ATB i can see that mountainbiking can help with the cobbles but calling remco technically bad is a bit of a stretch he might not be as great as the crossers/mountainbikers like mvdp wva and pidcock or pogi but he is still better than 95% of the peloton
Listened on spotify and just came here to leave a like cause I want daily Romandie recaps, hehe
same for me! Let's gooooooo
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thank you very much would have missed it
Listened on Apple Podcasts and came here to like because I want daily Romandie recaps
I beg for a daily Romandie podcast, 3000 times!
3000+ let’s get it!
I've never liked a RUclips video in my life. Liked.
El patron was really was a patron in the race the moment he handed a bottle from the mechanic to a rider from an other team 😍
Remco needs a good surface where he can generate power on souplesse. Cobblestones, gravel or dirt are not his thing. Against the big engines like van Aert and Vanderpoel he will tire out. Look at Glasgow, constantly braking and then accelerating is for riders who can do over 1000 watts over and over again. So no RVV. Squeezing to the front of the peloton over and over again with his size is just a bad idea, risking injuries. San Remo maybe, he could probable end close.
Most sensible take on this topic
Daily Romandie pods lads, let's go.
Would definitely tune in for Romandie recaps. Especially since I'm finding Carlton Kirby's solo commentary tough to sit through this week.
The road to 3K for daily Romandie highlights.
Here from Spotify just for the daily Romandie podcasts - make it happen
I broke my Canyon Aeroad a couple of years ago...I made a lamp out of it. LOL
I never like the podcast but only the LR recaps to make Patrick produce more of them. But this one I'm liking
Kuypers was a big CX story. He worked in a factory to fund his CX then gave himself a year to get a pro contract. Had some v.good results…bit inconsistent but he got on the BandB CX team so move to road squad seems relatively logical. I imagine he’s been doing a lot of endurance training over the Winter.
I think it’s a bit weird with LBL, because in theory, every GT Rider could ride it. It is in the perfect spot because it fits in the Giro preparation as well as before the build up towards the TdF. The reason because it was so bad this year is because Roglic and Remco were injured and it was like this for the last years.
Also Jonas isn’t interested in the Ardennes at this stage of his career. If he will turn his mind at it, LBL probably will be one of the most exciting races all season.
I guess we are getting Romandie daily recaps !
3K!! leeeets goooooooo
I think the reason the hilly classics don’t get much attention is because you can’t really see how steep the climbs are on TV or wherever you watch the race. I’ll see the graphic saying it’s an 11% gradient yet it looks like it’s almost flat. You need the backdrop of a mountain parcours to really appreciate how tough the climbs are.
31:20 Can't wait to see this infamous rider Ghilghelders Van Ghelovevanvangehlouvevaghawarrevangheleluwe.
Gotta say though it's a bit of a mouthful.
Romandie Prologue: Alaphillipe "spitted" in the face of Lefevre !
Was watching race highlights and the commentators were saying “el patron”! You should add for royalties!
Yes Normandy Highlights!!!
"Chain stains" is better than chain stays 😁 ..... I've always called it 'rear triangle'.
Thibaut Nys had a real bad spell in his CX season, with the team & entourage claiming he was burned up. He skipped a bunch of races after really underperforming, never really getting back to his previous seasons' level.
Might have a ring of truth, he did ride a lot of races in the 2023 calendar year, so I'm thinking they tried to have him rest and charge up for a summer season of road cycling. The potential is certainly there, so makes sense they would take the careful approach at his age.
3k let’s get it boys
Thanks for the women's peloton coverage!
Benji, that thing you were missing in this years classics is your compatriot Wout van Aert 😥
In the picture the circled part of the bike is the seat stay. The chain stay runs from the bottom bracket to the drop outs.
Giro Tour WC is the triple crown of cycling by tradition. Stephen Roche was the last to pull it off.
El Patron slowly grew back into his role but on the last day he was a joy to watch.
Ireland Abú 🇮🇪🇮🇪
Itzulia final stage was epic
I know you don't want to hear it LR and Benji but I'm really looking forward to the prospect of Pogi soloing to loads of victories at Il Giro and le Tour 😁 Will be a shame if the rest are not able to compete with Pogi but I still love the spectacle 😉
Kopecky has confirmed that she won't be riding the Tour this year as she wants to focus on Olympics, so that answers the question about whether they will ride for Vollering
So they're going for wiebes then
Yes, now It’s clear they are going for Wiebes with Bredewold as second leader 😊
Reusser will lead Demi to victory
At 24:20 Patrick bemoaned the fact that World Championship road races "never have a flay sprint anymore. Unfortunately."
I thought the parcors in Glasgow last year produced an exciting attritional race in which the cream rose to the top and fought it out for the title. The parcors had never-ending corners so riders were constantly gas on, gas off. The final four remaining to contest the finish were van der Poel, van Aert, Pogacar, and Pedersen.
I think Pogi will do the Vuelta if Jonas is not ready for the Tour. Pogi and Jonas need each other to make the Victory of the Race special.
The Ardennes are less important for the same reason the Giro is greater than La Vuelta, we have 1 day fatigue by now. If LBL was in the San Remo slot it would be huge
@benji you should get Buycycle as a show sponsor.
I think MSR was probably the best race of the year so far
Indeed
Always is
@@jordywilliams Yeah the Cipressa to the finish is probably the most exciting stretch of racing all year.
La flèche wallone tbh. That or one of the paris nice stages
@@thanosduckplease The Mur de Huy is very exciting I'll give you that. All the DNFs from the weather could kind of go either way entertainment-wise depending on what you enjoy.
Florian climbed very well after Mohoric at the gravel worlds last year.
Rightio. Time for the bike industry to step up. Someone needs to send a bike to Benjii for the season. Giant, you listening?
When boys are laughing, all is good!
Only came here to say I want daily romandie podcasts - usually a Spotify listener!
Can you imagine how amazing the memes will be with Burgaudeau and Alaphilippe on the same team?? I hope it happens for the lulz.
Yep. Daily please
Let's go daily recaps :D
Patrick, based on what you know, do you think Jonas will ride TDF? I'm not talking about some inside info, just based on his injuries.
Came from Spotify, romandie!
5:38 Harper’s crash wasn’t because of a bumpy road. It was because of a curb up onto a pavement that was very hard to distinguish from the road surface. The pavement was tarmaced with a very similar material so looked very similar to the road surface, and because it was so wide, the curb looked like the line that marks the middle of the road. After Ben O’Connor crashed in exactly the same spot due to mis-understanding the road surface/furniture in the same way, a spectator stood there acting as a marshal to warn the other riders of the danger.
Obviously those two were pushing it because they had attacked, but in this instance it seemed like this needed to be marked out with a marshal or something by the organisers.
Thankfully Harper is relatively okay with a ‘mild concussion’. Could have cbeen a lot worse the way he landed.
Romandie actually IS the french speaking part of Switzerland. Also, in "Ovronnaz" we don't pronounce the final "z", like in all names from the region that finish with a " z"
El Patreon 🎉 or what is the branded spelling!
Hot take: Tour de Romandie, after Basque country fiasco, is the best field of the year!
It wouldnt make any sense for Pogacar to ride the Vuelta after the Giro/Tour double against a fully prepared Vingegaard. It would be impossible to win.
But the opportunity to win all three is so rare that it kinda does make sense to go just in case Jonas dnfs imo
Exacly and also this year there Is the rainbow jersey as a goal
@@simon6495 There is no opportunity. If Jonas DNFs someone else will beat him. The Giro/Tour double is already insanely hard. Winning the Vuelta afterwards is just impossible.
@@alexqq14 Sure but it's Pogacar. He is ambitious and will consider his options if he actually wins Giro and Tour. He propably still goes for Worlds/Olympics/Lombardia, but still, one can dream.
Vingegaard at 100% is the most dominant climber since Pantani. All of the best climbing performances last year were from the Dane. Pogacar would need to pull a tactical masterclass to beat him, but who knows for sure?
I hope Benji's new bike is made from Tandem grade steel and fits 32mm tires. Roubaix Cobble Crusher.
Ciccone is back in business
Best LR Outro
Looking for some good competitive riding in Tour de Romandie. A 1.4 mile prologue seems kind of lame to me, but I guess we will find out who can brake and accelerate out of corners the fastest. The mountain stages should be entertaining.
We are halfway there. Like the Video so we can get Romandie coverage
Kopecky is not riding the TdF, but I guess you did not know this when uploading this podcast
It's the seatstays by the way.
Guys You clearly forgot Sanremo in the Best Race Discussion 😅
MSR was a CRACKER as always. Couldn’t have predicted the winner until 5 secs before the finish line.
It also was super boring until shortly before that
@@PHHE1😂😂😂 so true
@@PHHE1 Or You are just a MSR hater 😂 I really enjoyed the last 2-3 hours
Amstel Gold was best race so far
And unfortunately that wasn't that good either
That or Brabantse Pijl
I raise you the Vuelta Andalusia
Remco descending in MSR... I'm skeptical as hell
My vote for best race, Women’s Roubaix, six up sprint with the world champion boxed in and somehow takes the win!
JA is the most popular rider in France and it will remain that way for a while. Total energies being french, it makes sense to go for JA.
el patron is the Thruth!
No vuelta feminina preview? Starts on Sunday boys!
Please Romandie recaps!
Was it the chain stay or the seat stay?
Based off the picture, it’s the seat stay.
Swiss one weeks is back 🥳
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Please daily romandie recaps
Yeah, Felix is the son of Alexanders mother and his stepdad/coach Stein Ørn.
thibau nys was up on teneriffe for 2 weeks thats all i know coz i saw him a couple times there🤣
Nearly crashed the Tesla to log in and leave a like on this video. Let's go
They will never go for Bettiol. Where's quick step remember?😂
loved the "the PeePee" brothers :P comment!
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if pogi would win tdf, Jonas would always go to la vuelta, which would make it quite hard, to win there.
But yeah, ofc you go for ist..., if you have still anything in you.
No Tour de Suisse route discussion?
That's months away lol
I love what you guys do but I can't follow half of what your talking about. I need visuals to remind me of the teams and who the people are.., who was even at the race, what type of race and course it was, who were the major riders and teams and what the results were. I always tune in but I always tune out after 20 minutes or so.
Have come extra to yt, to give like, so that we reach 3000 :)
There’s a big question about rider recruitment and why some teams are very poor at it because they’ve never really developed their own riders and seem stuck in the 1980’s. Maybe they all need to read money ball or move people like Patrick L sidewards. Great points about young Spanish and French riders. Re Total it looks like they’re not accountable for rider performance …or recruitment. It was obvious Sagan was phoning his performances in and it will be astonishing if Julian A gets near his peak form.
I think Pogi would rather win worlds than Vuelta this year. But if he can get the giro tour double and low(ish) competition for the Vuelta he should do it.
More like Bend-ji's bicycle
34:35 no one's friends with gianni lol
seatstays
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combined likes on all platforms is 3k come on guys
Hello guys, you have a lot of interesting information, but I think you were wrong about the consequences of the LBL fall. The jury has neutralized the race to allow the fallen riders and those who were hindered as a result to return because they had made a mistake in removing the cars between the 2 groups, while if riders fall behind due to bad luck, they are allowed to come back between the cars. So it's very strange to talk about a DQ for the riders who returned, while they were seriously disadvantaged because they had to chase for an hour and lost a lot of energy.
Yeah but it’s the fact that the other teams had spent energy so they could be at the front to avoid crashes, so the riders at the back of the peloton run the risk of being caught behind a crash. So it’s not fair for the riders at the front to just let the riders running the risk at the back to get motor paced after being caught behind a crash 30km ago
@@LM.211 You can't all be at the front, and that's what causes accidents.....About time race officials were pro active after crashes.....Like in motor racing with double waved yellows.
@@LM.211 That is not a strong argument because there will always be a battle for positions with or without a crash. In fact, they already had an advantage because it would have taken a kilometer or more for those riders to get back to the back after that fall, in which they could not improve their positions. Moreover, it was extremely unsportsmanlike to try to eliminate your opponents who were held up by a fall that they could not do anything about. What a sick mentality there is in cycling. And then this behavior naturally increases the chance of many more crashes because they will try even harder to be at the front of the peloton.
Benjie, get a hard case to avoid such consequences.
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half brother, such a difficult concept to understand
I believe LR has been removing likes from the video
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Seat stays, neither of you are gearheads because there was no talk of the new bike....
Even Van Aert cannot win in era of Mvdp and Pogi, tbh.
Wiebes defo climbs stronger than the male climbers compared to the respective climbers. So msr goes to wiebes I say
'wiebes can climb' is based on what? her result in amstel which was chopped down too 100k race? half of the peleton were on the breakaway group. pls dnt say de ronde.
You don't have to climb much for MSR, you realize who won it this year?
@@PHHE1 huh? women's races only feature half of the climbs from the men's races. assuming that rule doesn't apply for msr and they keep all the climbs (3 capos, chipressa & poggio). for women sprinters, that's still alotta climbing (assuming, 1. the length of the race stays fairly long and 2. womens peleton ride full gas like the men do). lotta assuming on my part as we don't even know what kinda race its going to be. this is why they hesitated on doing the women's version of msr all this time. cos it's gonna look, less like a sprinters classics and more like an endurance race, or a puncheurs race if they decide to keep all the climbs and cut the length to around 150K, like in the standard women's race.
so assuming women's msr is over 200K long and will feature all the climbs from men's race. longo borghini, cecile uttrup ludgwig, lianna lippert, silvia persico, elise chabbey, puck pieterse are some of the riders wiebes won't be able to follow. only way lorena wins, is if kopecky and vollering mark all the attacks. but those two are selfish glory hunters and i wouldn't hold my breath. plus demi is leaving sd this winter.
only reason i would want the women's version of msr is for marianne vos to win it. just like with joke of a paris-roubaix, which only features half of the cobbled sectors and no arenberg.
Felix ørn kristoff is the son of kristoffs mother and kristoffs coach Stein Ørn
02:05 UK baggage handlers are a liability.
Remco suits PR more than RVV but he defo should do MSR
@@JQ0110 pidcock is similarly small and he did okay (not great tbf) plus remco has great tt abilities which seems to be advantageous in PR
@@eliasrosanelli2575yeah pidcock should also (in theory) be better at RVV over the course of his career than Roubaix.
@@eliasrosanelli2575 Pidcock can handle a bike, Remco isn't very good technically......
@@Andy_ATB i can see that mountainbiking can help with the cobbles but calling remco technically bad is a bit of a stretch he might not be as great as the crossers/mountainbikers like mvdp wva and pidcock or pogi but he is still better than 95% of the peloton
I keep pushing Juan Patron Lopez as a possible nickname. It's not sticking