Is This Knife Still Class Leading? (Cru Wear Paramilitary 2)
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2023
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My very first premium knife was a PM2, blacked-out w/ S30V. I recently picked up the Crucarta PM2 and damn…it’s given me a whole new respect for the PM2, overall. I had been searching for that next tier knife to blow my cash on. Chaves was in there…WE, CRK and some others. But, honestly, I’d be perfectly content owning nothing but Spyderco knives. Especially the PM2. It only took me 5-6 years and a couple grand to come full circle and end up with this revelation. And, it feels good, man.
My first "big" knife was the Manix 2 lw in s110v. That was years ago, and the addiction flew off the handle afterward. But now days, I havnt bought a knife in a while. I want to, but I have so many now that I just use them.
I agree wholeheartedly. I have $800 knives and though they are beautiful to look at... none are as ergonomic or useful as my Spyderco's. I'm fondest of the Para Military 2 and Delica 4. I own 2 Delica 4's and 1 PM2 but am finding myself looking for another PM2. I'd like to have one in each of my vehicles and 1 or 2 kicking around for EDC. Not sure if that's normal or excessive? Lol. I have a Cold Steel Espada too but it's just too damn big for EDC... stunning knife though.
I've carried a blue m390 model almost everyday for about 8 years now. The only reason I'm even looking at new knives is because I've sharpened it down to where it's basically a sliver at this point. It's probably the best investment I've ever made.
Bro I feel the exact same!👍😂
Mine is on the way. Delivery tomorrow. Your comment has me fired up! Thanks!
The Pm2 undoubtedly is in the all time top 5 non custom blades ever made.
Hell yeah. To me, the Sebenza and the PM2 are the two best production knives of all time.
What else is on that list?
@@2Bstrifeless Microtech ultratech OTF, Benchmade super freak, Rat Worx chain drive auto, and the Hogue dekka along with the para 2 I also really like the spyderco Domino as well which I could swap out for the Dekka in a top 5 and these would be from the non custom folding knives that I own and actually have used.
I like the way the Micarta gets some character with use. That’s just an insanely cool and good-looking knife to me.
Big fan of the patina too 👍
I honestly think algorithm man has a real future. Knife world or not. That guy….that guy gets it.
that guys the real _you_tube. not the money making machine. just him and his brick doing fun random knife stuff. and sometimes cats. or dogs. or also not. breath of fresh air imo!
'ANIME BODY PILLOW - TIFA LOCKHEART'
The Venev stones use a different grit rating system. FEPA or GOST. FEPA 1200 is roughly JIS 4000.
Glad you're having fun again.
I can't put my finger on why you're my fave knife channel on youtube, but here we are.
I got my first spyderco pm2 2 days ago off a friend.. 140 Canadian dollars ( a little less than half new price) and wow… it’s my first real folder as I usually carry a fixed, and man is it on a whole new level compared to my usual Chinese bucks… great company
Enjoy it in good health!
Congratulations! Welcome to the knife community! You are in for quite a ride. Figure out what you really want and you'll find someone that makes it. Until then, create a second bank account your significant other does not know about. They will not understand.
I've been through a lot more of the larger company knife brands. But I have far more spydercos then anything else. Always drawn back to my spidies.
@Salty Balls their heat treatment is awesome.. liked it so much I picked up a delica and dragonfly off the same guy and am waiting for the k390 police to get back in stock on whitemountainknives to pick one up... I'm a sucker for tool steels that patina and really want the extra length for food prep
Lol should've just gotten a civivi
I have that Native 5 in Spy 27, and feel very secure handling it. As a clumsy person, I have learned that the forward choil is my friend. I have never had to sharpen it in the year or so I've had it. Over 70, so I may never need to.
I still want the yellow Magnacut one!
The forward choir is not your friend just a casual acquaintance
Although I have many knives, my PM2’s remain my favorites. They are sharp, poky, slicey, thin, amby, 4 way clip, compression lock, fine and plentiful jimping, great steels - does all goat folder
Same here, I love mine in S110V
Same here, thinking about getting another one, no knife satisfies me as much as my pm2
I’m not crazy about them, but somehow I own 3. (Maxamat, S90V, and 15V) I’m hoping that 15V makes me like it enough to get me to carry and use it regularly.
Every material gets character with use
@@nandayaneShoot, you should be carrying that s90v model!! That steel has great qualities, like keeping your working edge a long while while remaining easy to resharpen.
Went down the Stretch2 in K390 also. Thank you Pete and Mr B.
Love how you went through the trouble to do the green screen stuff. And not bother hiding or putting it away. Legend!
I bought the PM2 cruwear when it came out as the be-all knife. I am glad I did, its been a beast.
I love mine, I've got 6 PM2'S with different steels on each one and I really like the cru wear model
Love the simplicity of the PM2. Great ergonomics, easily disassembled for cleaning, variety of high quality steels and functional movement. The Spyderco PM2 or the Spyderco Autonomy 2 are my go to EDC folders. Just ordered this exact version. I’m definitely looking forward to it.
I like the cruwear pm2 and those scales take dye really well. I did mine in a dark blue and came out nice, also it hides dirt better.
Glad to see you back on to knives, still waiting your analysys on magnacut!
Sold off my PM2 about 5years ago. Yes Spyderco got me one more time with their cru-micarta version. And again Pete comes in just in time to save me a lot of work...Bravo!
I’ve been using a cruwear pm2 for months now with absolutely no corrosion that I can speak of. I think it’s just barely stainless enough that aside from intentionally trying to stain it, it’s pretty good to go.
Oh and by the way the stretch is the ultimate daily knife and that’s coming from a master Gardner who cuts all day err day 😅
Love your work. 👍
Something worth mentioning is that them Venev resin bonded stones are stamped using the FEPA F rating but most places selling them still list it as grit. That F1000 your using there is actually 4.5 micron which equates to ~4500 grit, hence the polish.
Man I wish they gave the Manix as much love as the PM2. I'd love a K390 or Maxamet Manix 2. Yeah, I know there's a Maxamet lightweight Manix 2, but I'd love to see it in the regular version, just like they do with the PM2.
PS: My PM2 hasn't seen any use since I got a K390 Stretch, it's a better knife in every "user knife" way. If you like to use knives this is a knifeguy knife for sure.
You could always buy a lightweight and a regular weight and swap blades. If thats too pricey, sell the lightweight with swapped out blade. You won't recover all your money but it would soften the financial blow.
@@charlessalmond7076 I was thinking about that but I got discouraged due to two reasons. One I vaguely remember someone in our local community trying that and saying the blades were slightly different and incompatible. Two it's near impossible to do without ruining the knife, and that just seems like too much of a waste.
@@Antimonyish it works, but installing another blade into the lightweight handle is tricky. I did it for a friend a couple years ago.
@jeffrey abrahamse VG-10 Endura was my first Spyderco, I love it but I the Stretch is so much better. I thought the Stretch was bigger due to the name, but the Endura is actually the bigger knife overall lol. And I agree with Pete on his point where Stretch is a better performing PM2. Thinner stock and grind, better ergos thanks to backlock and FRN handles. Boxy scales on the PM2 are a hot-spots and the compression lock just tends to dig into your palm which are non-issues on an FRN back lock.
I still like my old RAT1. Mostly because the AUS8 triggers the PM2 owners.
I like the AUS8 Rats because they're easy to sharpen
As a steel snob my head just exploded.
Change rat with a ganzo 727 which has axis lock and 440 and their heads will explode even more lol
What’s AUS8….. just kidding lol
Ha! I love my Rat 1, too, but it's in D2
I totally agree with everything you said about the PM2 and the Para3. I had six of them and let them go (that micarta/cru-wear sure is a beauty, though!). I let them go because I got a Para3 LW and it's excellent. Amazing how the subtlest of changes can change things. That Stretch2 is fantastic, btw. I'm waiting for it in Spy27, so this was a very interesting video for me. Thanks!
The micarta PM2 is the exact knife I carry every day, it is splendid to me.
I was very curious and happy when I saw you post this because I have been thoroughly impressed with Spyderco’s more recent cruwear and more specifically the “Crucarta” pm2 which has been my work carry for many months now. Over the last few years Cruwear has become my favorite all around steel, it’s got good edge holding while being very durable and not too difficult to maintain or sharpen. On top of that, it’s corrosion resistance is surprising considering the class of steel it’s in. I’m not always the most cautious when it comes to keeping blades clean and my crucarta still looks brand new when I properly wipe down the blade. Maybe it’s in part due to Spyderco’s heat treat and hardness which has been reported to run around 63-65RC I believe but it also just seems cruwear is not a stain prone as steels like M4 or K390 and is much more along the lines of 3V. On a side note Benchmade seems to be getting a fair amount of positive feedback on their cruwear as well although I can’t say I’ve put mine through the ringer like I have with my cruwear pm2.
Just ordered me one of those PM2 CruCartas, should arrive in the mail tomorrow, super stoked.
I haven't been able to purchase a new knife in a year or more was good to see you doing a review on I finally got it and I am definitely pleased
i have one. my first pm2. i absolutely love it
The funnest knife channel there is! Thanks Pete!
Oh man great video. Like a video of old. No one has the comparisons like yours that takes super steels and gives an idea of edge retention. Hope to see many more
Still have my pm2 in s110v. Love it. Great ergos, love the compression lock, and that it comes in so many steels.
Ah the pm2. My favorite overall folder. I have many others but the one in my pocket every single day at work is my pm2.
Had one years ago, it got stolen, and I was so bummed out. 6 months later I was working a safe job at a pawnshop and beheld a nice black and camo pm2 in the case.
I couldn't leave without it. So after a bit of haggling I got it for $60. Been with me daily ever since. I pair it with a wave, and small Wenger. Perfect combo for me.
In the work van is a mora robust like I stash in every vehicle I own.
Pawn shop knives are the best!
The average pawn shop customer sees a $100+ folder and couldn't care less. All it takes is a tiny bit of interest and the owner is usually trying to get me to buy every one he has with huge discounts.
I've gotten a ton of Benchmades and Spydercos at under 50% MAP, and even a really dumb USA custom (Schenk WR) that retails for $600, for $225!
Love you pete (plutonically) been watching for a long time off and on, love your unique style of channel. Ive handled a pm2 and know i love it, one of the top production knives out there though im a benchmade and spyderco simp. One will find its way into my pocket someday with a unique blade steel
Love my PM2 cru-carta. Probably the one and only Spyderco knife I’ll ever own.
Youve got to love micarta, and the character it builds with over time use. This will make Uncle Randy so proud, i have a Buck Vantage in 20cv Paul Boz heat treat, with micarta scales. The more its used, the better the micarta looks.
Glad you got your knife mojo back mate. Bloody exciting news.
My crucarta was even better after a disassembly, cleaning and relube with Lucas gun oil (I know others use different stuff but this works great for me). It’s super glassy. The factory clip had to go too in favor of a Lynch clip
Para 3 is great for the sub 3” blade for sure. That’s a specific requirement for where I would carry it. So I would say it definitely has a place in the lineup. Great video!
fortuitous stuff here...I am currently also playing around with the pm2 in cruwear. i can say that for edc i like cruwear much more than m4 or k390. for what you also showed at the end..you can easily strop it back.
I have been also thinking about the spy steel....but i think i'll hold off on it a bit
good to see you again!
hey Denis, you too man! The SPY27 slipped through the cracks a bit but is DEFINITELY worth a go around!
I love that you are inspired to make knife videos and help me laugh at myself! I carried a blurple PM2 in S110V until I moved to Las Vegas where 3 inch plus blades are illegal. I got a Para 3 in Maxamet because I could carry it. They both worked great but I searched for something less wide in my pocket. Couldn’t get any TRM knives. I got a Hogue/Ritter mini RSK MK1 (and a few other knives). The Hogue/Ritter fits great for me most of the time unless I need something bigger. I like the full size version too.
Do you shop at PVK?
So I can gamble my life savings away in Vegas, party all night, and pay for women. But I can't carry a pm2 legally. Our laws are so strange
@@chriswebb3018 that’s why I appreciate what Doug Ritter does with Knife Rights.
0:51 the double-take I did seeing my hand in one of your videos would have made Roger Rabbit proud! Love the channel, been watching for years.
Jesus, you had me rolling. ...Taking a sharpening from both ends while her normal sharpener watches from the corner... My God... Lol
It's nice to see you are doing triple duty in the video. 1)sharpening, stropping, preparing the edges. 2)Conducting the Actual cutting tests. and 3) Testing the effects of sweaty hands on the steel from near heat exhaustion status of the human in his oven shack.
good call on the micarta over the smooth G1O.. i got the KC Yojimbo in the smooth stuff and man is that sucker slick, like toss-across-the room slippery
The Para 3 lightweight is really the game changer. Comfortable handle, lightweight, wire clip and a nice small profile.
I just got the crucarta PM2 and its a different beast. Beautiful handle, and capable size for more versatility.
I just want the Paramilitary 2 lightweight. I sit there with my Stretch and my P3LW and my PM2 and I just want to mash them all together and carry that for the rest of my life.
I love straight spine stretch II! I think the first, not the XL, feels better and the lockback is just right!!!! It's better for me than Paramilitary 2.
@@TheKyleMark This! Now that it's announced this but for the Military but oh man, how have they not done a lightweight PM2 yet, it's got to be their most popular model by far.
I've never owned or wanted a lightweight model but I'm glad Spyderco offers them
Pm2/3 blade geo just can’t match the stretch, it’s noticeably thinner. Ergo wise though, pm3 lw is insanely comfy.
Finally! Someone showing some love for the K390 Stretch 2. My favorite Sypderco. The rear point on the PM2 falls in the middle of my pinky finger. Not comfortable.
K390 is an amazing steel.
Quite cool steel and knife! Beutiful vintage micarta!
I carry a PM2 daily in either CruWear or M4. Fantastic blades. I find the stroppy stuff 4 micron from DBK is the goat when it comes to stropping these super steels.
Bricky! Good to see you brother
Here for the adventure music choices! I would put these on loop
I feel like Pete has hit the nail on the head as why my PM2’s are mostly shelf knives for me.
On paper it’s more premium than my seki k390 spyderco’s (better fit and finish, more fun lock, more solid lockup.. ect..) but in hand and cutting It’s less comfortable and has a thicker blade than FRN handled spyderco offerings. The Stretch is simply better at cutting and more comfortable.
I agree, use my frns much more often. The main issue for PM2 is how much space it takes in the pocket. Not a very good edc, but a great knife overall.
PM2 is like blue jeans. Just great. The Crucarta is my favorite one of the 5 I have.
Shirt tye dye works on the micarta, I left mine in purple for 2 days and it took well
I've got my first pm2 still, it's an original at that. I bought it back when they were first released and it was my first go at s30v. Once I figure out what I needed to sharpen it, I had a ball with it. I've used the absolute piss out of it to where the DLC coating is showing good amounts of wear. I still carry it semi frequently because I don't want to forget it. It's what got me out of sub $50 knives. As you said though, the k390 stretch 2 is basically better all around and nothings booted it out of my pocket for any amount of time since, and I share the same sentiment about the Para 3, I don't carry mine much. Honestly the knife was a bit of a let down. Blades too thick, too wide, handles too boxy. It should have been slimmed down, thinned out and also shortened into a little edc blade. But then that would just be a delica then wouldn't it?
Oh and algorithm guy gets it, I'll watch video of people mowing their lawns or doing the simplest of things for embarrassingly long amounts of time.
We have the same reaction to the Para 3. That thing about it having the same feel in pocket as the longer one. Unless you require a sub 3 inch blade. Yet all over YT it is proclaimed to be the ultimate edc knife.
ha that gremlin grip !... thx for the review/test !
Love the cat with green eyes in the window👍👍
Hey Pete, not sure of you'll see this or care but they do have portable battery operated fans.
Look up Venty fan for the best on the market if you don't have electric outlets in your shead. Sadly that is also the most expensive option and shipping to you wouldn't be cheap so you can always get a desktop fan off amazon and use an external battery bank (like one to charge your phone) to keep the fan running for a long while.
I'm just sure a slight breeze would be a godsend while sharpening knives in the Austrila heat
I'm excited to buy those one
I've always loved the native and manix 2, but the pm3 is great as well. I find the pm2 too big. The manix is big but it just feels so damn good in the hand that it makes up for it
Yes Pete is back in full force! A classic Spyderco with a new outfit on (I got this PM 2 not too long ago). Then two cut tests! Then a video this morning. What a day!
I also picked up a TRM Atom today!
That's FANTASTIC!
Extra extra...Pete is back❗🔥💥🤯 Great video Pete👍
Thanks Pete! I laughed, learned and laughed some more, nice One Punch 👊 shirt!
U need to get the Spyderco Manix2 with magnacut; go mine yesterday!!
the first spyderco I bought is the stretch in K390 and when I'm not at work it's in my pocket more then any other knife I own 42 as of now
The “Crewcarta” PM2 was definitely a good release, but the best one of 2022 is the 15v Manix 2 in my opinion.
Just bought a PM 2 in Cruwear, have one in S110v that is really nice, BUT...I found it too chippy. I have 2 fixed blades in Cruwear that I love, so this PM2 should be a good fit.
Have used Magnacut 😍😍, hope they produce a PM 2 in that as well, and not just the Salt. Acts like a stainless Cruwear IMO...
Great Video! I will have to give Crew wear a go. The ergonomics of the old style blades is indeed better.
My most carried knife to date is the Spyderco Endura 4 in ZDP189. Thanks again : )
I’ve got a Resilience in S35VN - FRN that I feel the same about as your Stretch 2. It’s a great cutter… boxes don’t stand a chance…
Like a trip down memory lane, rope cutting test & blade steel comparison as a bonus ! Pete you've got to tone it down, our expectations will get too high !
Stretch K390 for the win, even if they put K390 into the PM2
What a comprehensive test Pete! Through trial an error I came to a similar conclusion. In my case the Kapara/Stretch 2 edge out the PM in the aspects I care about.
This cannot be overstated.
The pm2 is an objectively great knife, but pretty much everyone will find a knife that better suits their preferences/needs if they dig a bit deeper in Spyderco's catalog.
Great test!
Sharpening from both ends took me a sec !
Years ago someone made a comment that your time lapse rope cutting looks like pooping. I’ve never been able to not think of that when I watch your rope cut tests.
I really like spy27 a lot. Used it with a pm3 lw holds a working edge pretty long and gets back sharp super fast . Dang tuff to but it takes a crazy sharp edge bites like an alligator!
I opine that this particular version of the PM2 is one of the functionally best folding knives ever created. Doesn't hurt that it's a real looker neither. If I had to sell most of my folding knives I'd just keep this, my ZTs and my Sebenza.
Awesome. Love it. Thanks Pete, your the man. Respect.
Great review!
This is my thought on the compression lock, its too "fumbly" when youre using your knife in a quick manner. Same thing with the "strong lock" from the Hawkes. I was in a production setting so intried many different knives, having to quickly pull my knife, make a cut, close it, and re pocket it. The compression was too "fumbly." Its a great lock for any other reason, tho. The best ive found was a simple thumbstud and a swift axis lock.
Ive stopped buying folders after this knife. This thing is perfection.
Your the best fluffer, Pete. They’re lucky to have you😂
I can say my crucarta had the sharpest factory edge ive seen in a while, someone makes a little piece you glue on to the lockbar making it the same height as the scales. I can't remember who sold it but I bet that would really improve the ease of use.
It's called the CME (compression made easy) but it escapes me who makes it
OCD4EDC
@Duh ya think? I've been debating the CME. I had a shaman that smashed my finger and I loved everything but that. Had I known the CME existed I'd have kept it. My para3 is probably looking at a CME and new scales though
Another great video Pete 👍
Pete I like my stretch 2 XL more than my pm2. With the new cruwear g10 stretch xl , I intend to buy one and get micarta scales for a crucarta stretch.
If you love the "forward finger choil" but don't have the dosh for a PM2 or Stretch, get a Byrd. They have a similar forward choil that for some reason, the full-fat Endura and Delicas lack.
I do like those camera angles made me have fun watching those steels got sharpened 😂
I never noticed.....until now.
Dude, your content is the best. Lol. This is why I support you on Patreon. I really want to buy you a beer. Or a kangaroo. I don't know, what do you buy an Aussie?
Algoritmen man wins. Well, I was going to watch some paint dry. But, that beige really threw me off.
Anywho, I am trying to catch up, so on to your next video. Which, by the way, will make me cry. I saw a glimpse of Opinel in that thumbnail. I very much like my opinels, fascinating engineering and simple, great cutting edge and comfortable in the hand. 😊
Knives are like women are amazing at first and then they get kind of old and you think I need a new one even though you already have a perfectly good one. Before you knew it you end up with 37 ex-wives and no money left by anyting but a ganzo
Could be you're right, but a wise man once told me women are like buses.
@@jjrossitee 😂 Another wise sage once said “Life’s a biTc h and then You marry one”
I think the record is actually 30 ex wives.
@@garethbaus5471 now that's a man who isn't afraid to commit
If you think knives are like women you probably shouldn’t get married.
8:58, never change Pete
I've been asking the same question about SPY27. They came out with the Manix 2 LW, Para 3 LW and the Native 5 LW and that was it. Well, I saw a recent video of Metal Complex and apparently, Spyderco is releasing several new models using SPY27 including the Military 2. I have the basic black G10 with S30V blade which I am totally happy with so I don't think I'll be getting the new version though.
“…getting reamed!!” Too funny!
Wow a double sharpening session woooof
The crucarta pm2 is the first pm2 that approached comfortable out of the box for use. At least for me. I don't know how Spyderco does not change the scale design. Of all knife companies.
Well. My first pm2 had qc problems. I let it go. I'd consider a new military, but I'd have to examine it real close before buying.
Fascinated by the way the cutting board drifts away from you as you chop.
Hey Pete, i was thinking about the mechanics of the rope cut test while holding my own PM2, and was wondering if it would be marginally more comfortable to extend the index finger out on top of the blade?
You look like you've been doing some work on those arms, Pete (not gay...not that there's anything wrong with that...). Your return to the fold of the Knife Borgs has once again inspired me to think about making a one-off knife video. The weather is nice out, so I may do it.
Yeah, it's good to see you geeking out again over knife steels, even though your random videos have been Gold.
I really feel a connection with algorithm man... I don't know what it is, but it's there.