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Springfield Hellcat, Sig P365 SAS & Glock 43x
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- 3 guns - one video. A tabletop look at the new Springfield Hellcat and the new Sig P365 SAS. We also compare them to the Glock 43x whic his my new EDC. If you stick till the end you’ll see some close-up video of the pistols.
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I have owed all three of these pistols. The first was the Sig which I liked, but I would always get a blister on my trigger finger from the sharp edge of the bottom of the trigger. This was after about 50 rounds. The second was the Hellcat which hurt my thumb joint do to the squared off back strap. Both pistols felt good in my hand just to hold, but were uncomfortable to actually shoot. I have large hands, so maybe they were just too small. The 43X is definitely the most comfortable. I usually shoot 150 to 200 round every time I go to the range and the 43X is nearly as comfortable to shoot as my 19. I use the Shield Arms 15 round magazines which also gives the 43X the same capacity as the 19. I have seen a few reliability issue video concerning the Shield Arms magazines but I have never had a single issue with any of the three mags I own with hundreds of rounds through each.
I have four Shield Arms mags with hundreds of rounds through each and I’ve had zero problems. I use them in my Glock 48 and really like the set up. Thank you very much for watching.
I carry Glock, my buddy carries Hellcat. What ever you chose, carry it. Don't leave it at home, ever.
Absolutely agree!
its funny i have a walther ppq and hellcat i carry if anyone asks my opinion i say get a glock....my opinion is based of my experience my firearms are flawless but long story short...glock
You’ll likely get in big trouble for shooting it. Better off carrying pepper spray or knife in those situations
Glock fan here, purchased 365for carry. 15 rounds in a small footprint. , Picked up another 365 , the SAS …. I rented Hellcat at range for fun. Purchased Hellcat OSP. I really like the Hellcat. SAS… don’t wast your money guys. Not a fan, not practical. I got caught up in the hype. Hellcat…Hell yeah! Note: double stack mag can be difficult to load. I use speed loader , but Glock 43x may be the gun for you. Single stack mag is nice.
I use these 3 exact guns in my rotation for edc. All 3 are excellent and reliable. The hellcat is my preferred weapon because of the grip. All 3 perform exceptionally well.
I've watched so many videos and to date it's the same story over and over. The Sig is almost always liked better by women because the grip isn't as rough and there's a tad less recoil. Men like the hellcat because of the feel of the grip but like the ladies mention more recoil. Glock owners are faithful and will always choose their Glock over any other. It's great to have choices but at the end of the day number one factor is reliability.
The hellcat has the best trigger out of the box compared to the other two. Best capacity also
Love my Hellcat !!!
I ended up choosing the hellcat as my new edc. I'm very happy with it too
I’m glad that is working out well for you. Hard to beat 13+1 in such a small package. Thanks for watching!
@@MDpolo I agree. No doubt the p365 and the g43x are also both great edc's that are bet reliable as well
I own the 43X and love it. Perfect size for my hand and Glock reliability. I have put about 1000 rounds through it with different types of 9mm and it eats it all. No malfunctions yet. I do like what Sig is trying to do with the SAS, a friend of mine owns one, but I think they missed the mark. I have not handled or shot a Hellcat yet so I can not comment on it.
Thank you very much for watching and taking the time to comment. Cheers!
Literally I was in the store looking this 3 and ended up with the hellcat just cause my priority is concealed carry (its my first) . But my next purchase will be the g43x mos. Great video thanks!
Thank you very much for your kind words. The best pistol is the one that fits you the best and that you will carry the most. Thanks for watching!
I have the hellcat OSP at first operating the guns controls and slide were extremely stiff but 300 rounds later I fell in love with it every thing loosened up 200 more to go before I decide if I even want the red dot
Awesome. I never got my hands on the OSP version. Thanks for watching!
As of right this moment, the glock 43x now has a flush 15 round mag and a 20 round mag.
Nothing on the market today has such capacity with such little imprint.
Game changer.
I agree with you. I have a Glock 48 with two of the 15 round mags and I’m very happy with it. Thanks for watching!
@@MDpolo
Did you purchase the 20 round mag yet?
It's sold out , but I got a couple!
43x now has after market flush fit 15+1 mag
wut? What about the regular 43? Looking for a flush fit with pinky extension that doesn't extend to the backstrap.
Alex P
I would be careful with those steal mags. The mag catch is plastic and the steal mag will cut through it in time with lots of vibration from shooting. They do make after market steal mag catches that are safe to shoot with those mags. Just a heads up.
+Alex P yes you are correct. Shield Arms says that they believe it “should” be around 2,000 rounds before you could experience a problem emanating from that. Having said that, I agree with your comment. Tanks for watching!
MDpolo Gun Channel Could someone just replace the plastic mag grab with a metal one? FYI... just starting my gun journey, my apologies if my questions sound dumb or illogical.
@@4doorsmorewhores651 upgraded trigger and mag release.
I went to look at the Hellcat and my dealer had just gotten a few 43x’s in that morning. I absolutely loved both of them and couldn't decide so bought both lol.
They are both exceptional guns.
There you go. Problem solved! Congratulations and thank you very much for watching.
Best way to solve that kind of dilemma, if you have the scratch for it.
The SAS would be great if they could leave off those awful ports. They have no place on a carry weapon. It's just a gimmick to catch the eyes of amateurs and tactitards.
I’m also disappointed on how dim the sights are in low light conditions. That was the no-go for me. Thanks for watching and cheers.
Sig offers an SAS slide without the porting. It fits perfectly on the regular 365 frame. You use the 365 barrel and guide rod/spring. I did this and am very satisfied.
Thank you for sharing. What do you think of those sights in low light conditions?
Oh you know you own the S&W M&P Shield Performance Center version with the ported slide. 🤣
Why do people obsess over a carry gun not having a port?
Doesn't seem like a big deal to me, at all.
I want the sig 365 sas frame with a normal 365 slide, i dont need the slide lock and take down lever, but i do need day and night front and back sights
hellcat is a beast, perfect capacity for the veiled port

Excellent comparison. For me though it's the 43X hands down.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
I’ll take all 3.
Due to the added grip length, the glock 43X is no longer a micro compact pistol, the glock 43 would be the right comparison but it only holds 6 rounds. The issue here is to pick a 43 over a hellcat with such great difference in magazine capacity, between the hellcat and the p635, it comes down to personal choice, only 1 round difference.
The purpose of this video was to showcase the two new pistols (Hellcat and SAS) in comparison to my current EDC which is the G43x. It is not meant to be a category comparison video. But there is more to comparing the Hellcat and P365 SAS than just one extra round. They feel completely different in the hand. The balance is different and the sight picture is different. Plenty to influence the decision in addition to one extra round. Thanks for watching!
In time if the hellcat doesn’t have the 365 setbacks I’ll trade my 43x for one
Some Hellcat owners are complaining about the trigger hanging up. Search it on youtube
Zombie Killer
I love my Hellcat. Is my pocket carry pistol and is great. Everything else I own is Glock (22, 27 & 45).
My Hellcat has been 100% trouble free.
In my Shield 2.0 9mm the 8 round magazine now holds 9 rounds. So 9 plus 1.
I paid $319.00
Has the best grip.
Has solid metal sights.
Trigger has a nice break and reset.
Its the softer shooter of all these carry guns for sure.
It is available with lasers(red/green), red dot, ported slides/barrel and even with 4” barrels all from factory!
All these other brands try too hard to emulate 😂 but for a lot more $$$
and with the current $ 50 discount from M&P, the Shield is half of the price of all the other guns...so definitely the best buy!
Great point .. the magguts plus two gives you ten in the mag and one in the chamber that's 11 rounds and the magguts plus two does not add anything to the length it gets the added rounds through a flat spring and a new follower .. great points that need remembering
I have the hellcat and the 43x. I love them both, but i carry the hellcat as my edc because it holds up to 17 rounds.
I’m buying the Hellcat and I’ve either owned or have shot all three of these.
Sweet. Please let me know what your experience with it is after you own it. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Lee Bartlett why do you prefer the hellcat
I own the hellcat and 365. Thinking of getting the 43x next...if I had to pick between those 2 it would be the hellcat. Both are nice though, the hellcat fits my hand better
@@semiauto3148 A lot of people will pass on the Hellcat for ONE reason and it's what SA and RRA did in 2017. Big time carve out for them but could've screwed all other FFL's in Illinois. Neither are #2A friendly.
bearingarms.com/david-l/2017/05/01/springfield-armory-and-rock-river-arms-sell-out-illinois-ffls/
I own both the Springfield Hellcat, and the P365 SAS, but my 365, does Not have a ported Barrel. I really thought I would like the sights on the SAS, and I do in a well lit scenario, but the sights suck hard in low light situations. My Hellcat, on the other hand, is my EDC, and I love it. I carry both, with my Hellcat, as a primary, and the 365 as a backup boot gun. If I had to choose one, the Hellcat, Hands Down.
Awesome video! I had a Glock43 and I carried (AIWB) for 6months, find the grip is too short when you need to draw the gun. So I decided to sell it. My only 9mm now is the Shield, but I need more capacity with it. The Shield comes with 7+1 flushed mag and an 8+1 mag extension.
I did measure my Shield 9mm slide and grip length (8+1 extended mag) and exactly the same as the Glock 43x (6” slide and 5” grip from top of slide)
The Shield is also single stack magazine, but I like the Glock 43x better (lower center bore) and footprint for carry is not as wide as the Shield when you measure from top of the slide to the bottom of the trigger guard.
I’m ordering the G43x today! Thanks for thr video comparison.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I do appreciate it! The 43x is very nice. I must say that I’m enjoying the P365 with the P365XL grip module. Stay tuned...
MDpolo Gun Channel I was torn between P365 and Glock43x. I did check both yesterday , but lost interest with the Sig due to shorter handle, so I forgot to measure how thick the handle of the double stack Sig P365 vs the 43x, but all I remember is the Sig , though double stock magazine, the handle is thin like the 43x.
Are you trying to tell me that a P365XL mag will fit a standard P365?
Hellcat is awesome and I own all 3.
Thank you for watching!
As do I, but to me it's a tie between the sig and the springfield.
I currently carry an XDS 9, so of those three I would probably go with the Hellcat.
+Daniel Kleindienst That makes sense. It’s a platform that you’re familiar with. Thank you for watching!
Wife carries the 365 and I carry the 43x. Can’t go wrong with either one
I completely agree. They’re both very good. Thanks for watching!
I bought the Hellcat today....have’nt got time to test it yet...great video!
Thank you and congratulations. Let me know what you think of it.
I think I’m going with the hellcat for the rail and mag cap and optic ready for a trijicon rmr
+J Ames I’m almost certain that a Trijicon RMR is too big for the Hellcat. I haven’t tried it though.
glock 43x has an aftermarket rail for 30 dollars. I put an olight on it and i ordered a holster from triad thats specifically for the setup. Its nice
I'm getting the 43X and the Shield Arms S15 flush metal mag, 15 rounds. The Sig and Springfield can't beat that.
I’ve been trying to get one of those mags w/o any luck.
MDpolo Gun Channel Preorders were live in in September, the demand is so high that they will start delivering them by the end of this month, too many people with G48 and G43X haha
I go with Hellcat. I've shot both Hellcat and Glock, I must say Hellcat is little jumppier but it carries more pew-pew.
The Glock 43 X feels better in your hand because it has a Glock 19 size handle. In length. And you never did touch on the takedown of the P365 SAS. That's gonna be pretty awkward too. I have a hellcat in FDE. It's in my rotation. However, I am thinking hard about getting the OSP version in Black. Great video.
Is it take down and the sights on the SAS were a nonstarter for me. Thank you very much for your kind words and for watching.
Why everybody hall HS pistols Springfield? Its clear to see that is HS pistol and not a Springfield
Was looking for a new summer gun. I've got big hands so I really don't like smaller guns including the 365. Tried out the hellcat the other day and that thing was just terrible for me. Went with the 43x :)
Nade I’m liking the P365xl and the Glock 48 as far as the thinner guns go. Thanks for watching.
Very nice review, we may need to try to fit our rig to one of the mags for the Hellcat
Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching!
@@MDpolo no problem, if you do gear reviews come check us out at ReloadWrap and let me know what you think.
Since most of P365 and Hellcat owners carry them with extended mags... I say Glock 43x with Shield Arms 15 round magazine.
End of discussion ! 👌🏻✌🏻
I’m really liking my Glock 48 with the S-15 mag. Thanks for watching.
Only difference is the hellcat and p365 both came with extended magazines standard. There is no need for aftermarket magazines with them
Glock 43x same size as P365? 10% wider and an inch taller with flush 10 Rd mags I think. Every fraction of an inch counts in the subcompact field, IMHO.
The 43x and P365 are not the same size. You are correct.
almost an INCH longer than the P365. 5.8" - G43X 6.5" but the height is most important for concealment more than length. IMO
There IS a 15 round all metal magazine for the Glock 43X, also, which at the very least would make the extra height for something useful... I have NO IDEA why Glock insists on covering their magazines with a polymer sleeve... Just make the damned things out of steel like every other manufacturer and there is more room for ammo, or you could make your pistols just that little bit smaller. Either way, if you use the all steel 15 rnd, then it could be considered "relatively" the same height considering I think the 15 rnd P365 magazine would make the P365 the same height.
Going with the Glock 43X
P365 SAS is what I bought. Love the gun for CCW
+Joseph Dvorkin Congratulations. What do you think of those sights in low light conditions?
That is the only draw back to the gun. I owned a Lima green laser with my previous P365 and it helps minimize night sighting issues.
Sweet! Thanks.
Tried a set of sights like that years ago when they were sold extremely expensive and they were definately a no go for me. I like my P365 with the factory Xray night sights, has been reliable still after 3,800 rounds. Sig should've stopped at the P365XL variant.
Thank you very much for watching and for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it!
I call bull shit!!!!!
Signs hv never ben reliable at all.
They always have problems and always will!!!!!
How can you make such a generalized statement. I own many Sig Sauer products, and for me, all have been excellent with the exception of the P365 and the P365xl. And by the way, I’ve owned 3 P365s and had problem with 1 of them. The other 2 were 100% reliable. Thanks for watching.
To me, the 43X definitely feels better in the hand than the other two.
Ya for sure! It does have a longer handle!
I agree the 43x does feel better in my hand but the other 2 come "upgraded" right out of the box. No need for aftermarket sights or magazines
Love my SAS, but I agree the Glock felt better.
I held both the Hellcat and the P365, and I went home with the P365 even though I was heavily biased towards the Hellcat when I walked into the store.
For me as well. The P365 just fits my hand better. Thank you for watching.
I didn’t like the way the 355 felt when I held it. The Hellcat on the other hand fit me perfect.
I have a 43x and from experience the long grip constantly snags when I carry IWB. For a 10 round mag it's a little too long. I was leaning towards the Sig SAS, but in low light visibility I'm not sure the sights make it worth it. The Hellcat with a shorter grip and 11+1 or 13+1 seems like the better choice for me.
Yes, agreed. I really thought Sig had something with the SAS, but I was very disappointed on how dim those sights are in the dark. Thanks for watching and cheers.
Huge difference in grip length on the glock 43x . Looks like a solid inch
You are correct. It was close to 3/4” on the nose. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Basically if you put the 13 round mag in the hellcat it’s very close to the 43x in size maybe a tiny bit smaller except you get 4 additional rounds
Just got a Glock 43X today and I absolutely LOVE it. Easy to conceal and feels great in my hands. Not a fan of the 365 due to no safety at all. Wasn’t impressed with the hellcats grip. Overall the 43X had everything I was looking for. Not to mention shield has a 15 Round magazine which I’ll be picking up once available.
+MoonLight Productions - congrats! I like the G43x but have been spending time with the G48 and really like it. I don’t understand your comment regarding the P365 having “no safety at all.” It has all the internal safeties of a striker-fired pistol. In addition, you can get it with an external safety if you wish. The only safety missing is the trigger “dingus”. Thanks for watching and cheers!
I just bought the 43x today
It's okay everyone is entitled to make a mistake. Glock late to the table with the 43 and then this abortion 43x. Don't get me wrong have several glocks and love them. But when it comes to this area of the market they fell on their face.
The best gun for you is the one that you shoot the best and the one you will carry the most. I actually like the 43X and I shoot it very well. +barefoot bob - Not sure how you can make a statement like that. The beauty of the times we live in is that you can find a gun that it right for you. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
+Txtea713 - Congratulations! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
The 43x is an excellent firearm no doubt. I just think it was a quick response to the p365 that didnt require a total redesign. We are in the RUclips age now and there are hyper expectations. Its a win for the consumer, there are many great guns hitting the market.
MDpolo Gun Channel you’re welcome
Hellcat 😍🎯
I live on south side of Indy neighbor. Just found your channel.
Awesome! Thank you.
Hey @mdpolo gun channel what a great video! What is the brand and model of that GLOCK 43x trigger?
Thank you very much! It is an Overwatch Percision trigger. Love it.
I picked up the Hellcat yesterday. (11/27/19) Put 200 rounds of FMJ and 25 JHP through it. No malfunctions. This will be replacing my G43 as my EDC. I plan on keeping the G43. It is an awesome pistol. I just wanted something with more capacity that would conceal as well as the G43. The Hellcat is about the same size as the G43 with the 11 round mag & flat base plate vs. the 6 round G43 mag. It's going to take some practice to get comfortable with the Hellcat. It does have a bit more recoil. I was all over the place with my first few mags. The trigger is a bit on the heavy side compared to the G43. I'm hoping this changes after I put some more rounds through it. The grip on the Hellcat feels slippery to me. (all polymer frame pistols feel slippery to me) I will be putting some grip tape on it just as I did for the G43. So far so good. Only time will tell if it will be as reliable as my G43 has been.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the Hellcat. Springfield send me one to review and I’ve had it for several weeks now. Some days I love it and some days I dislike it. So rather than rushing the review because everybody else is doing one, I’m taking my time to make sure my thoughts are well organized before filming. Thank you for sharing!
A didn't like glock till I put my hands on the 43x an now I'm in love
All three are nice guns but if the price is a factor for you i recommend the HellCat. I own several glocks and both the Hellcat and Hellcat pro. The Hellcat is easier to conceal carry than the Glock.
The porting on the sas is a good thing .. if you are shooting the gun from retention in a self defense situation . Last thing I care about is a little gas. Kinda silly thing to be a issue for someone
@JusticeAA if you are jacked up adrenaline and shooting a snappy gun rapidly any muzzle control or Target control advantage is always praised. But for some reason people look at ports(one of the easiest things you can do to midigate recoil ) as a bad thing . I have a carry gun with porting . I also shoot from retention as long as you are using good high end deffence ammo that won't splinter as it passes the ports all you will feel is wind . If shooting from a ludicrously high retention point is the only way you can experience anything uncomfortable. This is a experienced shooter talking from experience and have shot porting from these positions I know what I am speaking on.
Between those three glock 43x first second hellcat
ya I agree the glock 43x however front slide serrations??? pointless silly looking and potentially dangerous to use
Some people like them and know how to use them. So we have options. Something for everyone. Thank you for watching!
I own the p365 sas it is not ported. I guess Sig stopped porting them.. I Bought it 3 months ago. The sight is good. If you keep it in the dark all the time the sight is dim at night. Seems much brighter if it is "charged by light"
Maybe it just seems that way.
It's a great gun... takes a lot of getting use to. Personally though, for me, I prefer my S&W
It just wasn’t for me. Thank you very much for taking the time to watch. I appreciate it.
Just the review I’ve been waiting for!!
Thank you and I appreciate you watching!
Does the hellcat have a safety?.
Mine does not and none of the Hellcats that I’ve seen have had a manual frame or slide mounted safety.
365 is most compact which is what I look for have 2 of them black and stainless best guns I've ever owned not the SAS versions
SAS sucks, the XL is the best!
Glock 43x with Ameriglo sights wins all day in my book.
+King Kent yea. I’m liking the 48 better... thanks for watching!
What holster do you carry the Glock 43x in? I just pick one up and I’m not sure what to carry it in.
My favorite IWB Kydex holster‘s in no particular order are: harry’s holsters, the armzmen holsters and phalanx concealment. Thank you very much for watching.
I rotate from my 43x with trijicon sights to my 365xl with Romeo zero red dot and olight pl mini in a Slimfit holster
Sounds like a sweet set up! Thank you for watching!
Just purchased P365 SAS. nice compact pistol
finally got my hands on the Sig SAS yesterday. The sights in it messed with my focal points I imagine it would take a lot of getting used to.
I completely agree. I applaud them for innovation, but this pistol is a pass for me. Thank you for watching!
Dang hope ya reconsider! Supposed to focus on the target and leave both eyes open
I'm going with a Hellcat for EDC. Gonna get it tomorrow. Selling my POS S&W Bodyguards
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the mag pinky extension on the hellcat and the sig might not drop when releasing the mag because you have it grasped. you might do this inadvertadly, not knowing you are doing it. One of the great features of the Glock 43X a full grip on the handle. what are your thoughts on this hang up of mags not dropping?
That’s a good point Jesus. However, I have used extensions in several pistols like the Shield, Glock 43, Glock 26 and Walther PPS and I have never experienced that issue. I’m not implying that it could not happen, but it has not been my experience. You do make a good point with the G43x. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Thanks for the comparison. I have a 43x which I love, but the Hellcat seems to be superior.
+Christian valx - both good pistols. Personal preference really. Thanks for watching!
Hellcat is a really well built pistol… solid.
I put one of these meprolight sights on a Kahr .40 cal and then I ported the barrel and slide through the front sight holes. I widened the holes in the slide and ported the barrel so they matched up. It was a fun project but I hated that gun. I hated the sight and I hate .40 cal. Snappy and high pressure. I got rid of it and got a glock 43x. I also really like my old S&W 3913. Great carry guns. Good video btw.
+Cofivous Gogant I can imagine that Kahr .40 being snappy! Good call on the 43x. Thanks for watching!
When loading a new loaded mag in the SAS you must rack the slide back to chamber a round not too difficult.
+RENE CASTELLANOS - indeed you do. Thanks for watching.
This video is for the buyer that doesn't want to go to the gun store and hold the gun for himself 😂
Have all three except my 365 SAS is non ported. All three good EDC guns. 43X & Hellcat accept same leather holster.
Thank you for watching.
The P365xl is even better!! The 43x is my backup.
Got the hellcat last week it was hell trying to find one it’s sold out everywhere around me in every gun stores I pick up the Non OSP because I don’t really care much about optic sights what I think of it i love it with a few draw backs tho it fits great in my hands I large hands and love the sights love the quality of the build and love the double stack rounds it can fit inside my side pockets easy the draw back since it is micro it’s a tad bit snappy the grip texture ain’t really all that and the mags are a pain to Load without a bullet feeder tool over all tho I love it first CCW my 13 + 1 is the biggest factor for CCW I was looking for something ready to go in terms of reliability and functionality which can easily be conceal & carry a good amount of rounds I paid 520 for mine which was $60 more than the G43x which isn’t drastic I personally think it’s better than the G43x and Sig SAS
+anthony mok Congratulations! It is a heck of a little pistol! Thank you for watching and I appreciate your feedback.
i find the hump on the grip of glocks is hard to conceal. it is right by where the glock emblem is at the bottom of the grip. just got the sig and its easier to conceal for me. i have 4 glocks so i am definitely a fan.
I think that hump has been reduced substantially in the Glock 43x and 48. Thank you for watching!
I just bought a hellcat a few weeks back I love it it shoots great I like the sight a lot and it carries great
HellCat is by far the most comfortable and reliable pistol. Had to buy 2 of them.....
Time will tell how reliable the Hellcat truly is. Thank you for watching!
I’m carrying the 43x right now. I’m considering getting a Hellcat for summer carry though.
+Glockguy87 - both good choices. Just depend which feels best in your hand and you shoot better. Thanks for watching!
I own all of these shown guns, I have all three offerings of the Sig P365, and a few 43 and 43X's and now the Hellcat, I find all three to be excellent carry guns in their own way, I carry daily and find I use different EDC guns based on my clothing needs at that time, I'm partial to the Sigs though, and even with my large hands they fit great and the guns are totally accurate if I do my part, my Hellcat is new to me and I fell will work out just fine, for sure I really don't need all these guns, but I enjoy my guns, and that's every one of them, nice review and thanks for sharing..
+Rod Klomp - when I made this review, I had 20 minutes with the Hellcat before I had to give it back to the store. So this video was a quick look at the Hellcat and SAS. A couple of days ago I got my own Hellcat so I’m working on a more in-depth review. Awesome that you have all those guns. Which would you choose if you could only keep one and why? Thanks for watching.
I chose the SAS and love it. Not sure why he said the gas from the ports would get in your eyes? Maybe if you shot it with the back of the slide pressed up against your nose. But if you did that the gas would be the least of your problems :-) .
Put some rubber texture talon grips on your glock 43x then it will be great that is what I did on my glock 43x I got the same all black glock 43x like in this video it's been a really reliable firearm
Yes I put the Talon Grips with the pro texture and it makes all the difference in the world. Thank you very much for watching.
What sights did you say you have on your glock? I would like that change the factory ones
+Matt Conklin - Ameriglo Bold.
Concerning the porting on the sas, the only time it’s really a concern is if you’re seated in your car shooting out. I own a Glock 21C as a truck gun, so I’ve thought about it a lot! I’ve come to the realization that if you index the magazine on your chest as you shoot it’ll direct all that gas and particulate away from you. In most other situations you’ve gotta be right up on the port for it to cause any sort of issue as far as I’m concerned. That’s just my school of thought on porting.
Thank you very much for sharing. Speaking only for me and my level of training, I would not trust myself to remember to do that under stress. I give Sig high marks for innovation, but it is a pass for me. Thanks for watching!
MDpolo Gun Channel I totally understand that. Great review man!!
I recently got a 43x (yesterday) & I love it but haven’t even shot it yet. Watching this vid tho, makes me wanna get a Hellcat or P365 more.
I have a 43 and hellcat. I love both hellcat has lots of bounce cause 43 heavier
43 is heavier?
You can’t go wrong with any of those. You should shoot all three of them and figure out which one fits you the best.
What sights do you have on the glock 43X?
Ameriglo Agent.
Dont own the hellcat but would like too. Got the sig and the 43x. The 43x is by far more superior in reliability than the sig.
Do you have any recommendations?
It’s all personal preference really. You should get all of them in your hand, see how they feel and more importantly shoot them if you can prior to purchasing. After that you’ll be able to see which one is best for you. If it helps you in any way, the Hellcat is gone and the P365 is on me as I type this.
7:20 exactly. I was looking for a gun for carry and for when I do Uber. The thought of shooting this at different angles (potentially next to my face) in a car didn’t seem like a great idea when I thought it through. Lucky Sportsman’s Warehouse has a generous cancellation policy!
Good thinking. Thank you for watching!
Only when the extended mag is empty and then it rattles. I can't get past the pinching my hand when using the extended mag using either hand when shooting.
I wanted to like this gun but-PASS. As for the 43X it's going to print with conceal carry. 5" grip compared to the 4" Hellcat grip and the 4.3" P365 grip. I don't compare the slides to show the length differences I use TOTAL length from the bottom rear of the grip to the from of the slide. Glock 43X slide 6.06" but over all length is 6.5" and 6" on the Hellcat and 5.8" on the P365. You can hide slide length easier than the grip length.
I conceal my G43x and G48 with no problem at all. Thanks for watching.
Great comparison brother!
Thanks brother!
Hey KSGunguy, Need some new videos! I think the last one I saw of yours was a PCC or a Saint or something. I'm not interested in tohos type of firearms...but I know there is so it's all good. Just kidding you sir, I know as soon as you can get your hands on one of these new guns you and dozens of other reviewers will get there cameras rolling!!
I wish he would’ve put the 13 round mag in the Hellcat than compared it to the G43x.. but I’m still very comfortable with my tricked out Shield 9mm, 8+1 & 10+1 HYVE base plates, 19 rounds on me at all times.. that’s more than enough
Yes, regrettably I only had 20 minutes with the Hellcat and the SAS since customers were waiting to handle them. I may do an updated video in more detail once I know I can spend more time with the pistols. Sounds like a sweet setup you have. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
Can you show the grip thickness of the 43x vs hellcat
I took a bunch of photos of them, let me see if I can find what you ask for and will post it on my Instagram.
If I had to choose between these three I’d go with the 43x
+Cosmoline Fiend I agree with you. The 43X has been my daily carry for a while. However, I have been experimenting with the G48 and I actually shoot it better...
MDpolo Gun Channel yea the g48 has been pinging my radar recently. I think I’m gonna pick one of those up. The price is right by me right now too.
The shop by me has a 48 for 437.99 right now. I think I’m gonna pull theoretical trigger on it. Lol
I would and get a Harry’s Holsters IWB for it. Thanks!
I have the bitone 43x love it
Hellcat for me.
The Hellcat may be my next gun! Glock 43 EDC right now...
The mighty Hellcat. I have several videos on the hellcat which may give you some insight. Thank you very much for watching.
I'll still be shooting the 43x...
The hellcat is imported by a shitstain company who activity tried to screw gunowners, and sig wanted me to send back TWO of their 365s a total of 6 times because they were shit from the factory... Meanwhile my Glock is still running 100%, cost less, and has better aftermarket support.
If you shoot with both eyes open, you will see the target with the SAS., , I'll take a hellcat, or that SAS. Even though I do like Glocks also.
+Nate Dawg - yes, I always shoot with both eyes open. I’m working on a full review of the Hellcat right now. Thanks for watching.
@@MDpolo the Helcat looks attractive also, I'm on the fence between these two. Thw Glock is larger than I would like for EDC for me personally because if the extended grip holding 10 rounds
sheild arms makes a 15 round mag for the 43x that is the exact same size as the 10 round
Yup. I have 2 of them and so far they have worked perfectly. Thanks for watching!
@@MDpolo i feel like the 43x is awesome,and with the 15rd mag its still the same size as all my old subs with extended 8rd mags! love the 365 and hellcat but both have rather small grips
+GWay9 I’m enjoying the regular P365 with the XL grip module and the Glock 48 with the S15 mag. I have videos on both.
I REALLY don't think the Glock 43 can be compared to the other 2 tbh. I think the hellcat and 365 are in a league of their own. I DO think Glock hasn't made the gun that competes with these 2 but I have a feeling sometime, probably in this next decade, they will make the perfect 9mm 10 round (maybe 11 or 12 to compete with hellcat) micro pistol and I would more than likely buy it in a heartbeat if it works as well as I'd imagine
I hear what you’re saying, but the premise I was going on was - which one of the three would I pick as a carry pistol. So from my point of view, all three were competing for a spot in my every day carry holster. Thank you very much for watching and taking the time to comment.
Good comparison video but you should show them all with flat mag baseplates like the Glock. Glock 43x is barely in the same class for concealment. Largest grip but only 10 rounds, come on Glock.
You are absolutely correct about the base plates. I actually didn’t think about that until after. You’re also correct on the 10 rounds from Glock... Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
You said about the G43X said, "Largest grip but only 10 rounds, come on Glock.
I hear this a lot on RUclips when guns are compared i.e. the gun with the larger round count get top marks.
Since you said *TheDvanlen10,* "...but only 10 rounds,..." could you expand & explain:
1 - What you meant by that.
2 - why is that sounds like a negative in CCW when the average CCW shooting involves 2 to 4 shots no matter how many attackers there are.
3 - What is the number of bullets (IYO) a carry gun should have (remember more bullets more weight) - 10, 12, 14, 15, 20, 32??
4 - Also, if a person emptied 10 or 11 bullets into someone is that really a self-defense shooting or is that a murder (ref. by law use only enough force to stop the threat).
5 - You also said, "...the Glock 43x is barely in the same class for concealment.". The G43X is a top seller for CCW, I used to carry a G26 around, now I carry the G43X because it is lighter, thinner, easier to conceal. My question: what did you mean by, "barely in the same class for concealment."
That sounds odd to me from my use of the G26 & now G43X in CCW around the USA.
- By saying, "...come on Glock." in reference to the G43X. Do you know that the G43 (non-X) is available with a shorter handle.
- If you state, "But the G43 only has 6 rounds," please answer above questions 1 through 3 and question 5 for the G43.
Thanks, answer completely and I will share my thoughts & experience after.
God bless
sweetcostarica sorry, I didnt want to write a whole essay on it just a quick comment. My comment relates to the direction the technical advancements are taking us. When the Sig p365 came out and now the Hellcat, many think this a new class of ccw firearm. Micro size and high capacity. Crucial size being grip length because thats the hardest part to conceal. You point is correct, do you need that capacity? I guess thats up to the individual. Would the marketing depts like you to believe you NEED that capacity? Absolutely. Fwiw, I carry a Kahr CM 9, 6 +1 capacity and don’t have a problem with it.
@@TheDvanlen10 We have a lot of time to even write a book on-line to share knowledge. This is not a difficult thing & the information can and does help others.
Of course it is your right *TheDvanlen10* NOT to answer my questions. This is my way: I like to completely cover a topic with questions for others so I can understand where they are coming from. Then I put forth my argument.
I GOT NOTHING
When folks *do not answer* my easy questions from their point of view, I get very wary of them as just "talkers" without proof. Just saying, not pointing at you.
MY POINTS (answered as I promised)
Anyway, so getting more bullets into a smaller magazine is a technical advancements and a innovation? Yes, it is. Is that "breakthrough" important?
No, not really with CCW firearms by the street data and round count in actual shootings (see: *Active Self Protection* RUclips videos and count the bullets).
Round count in a CCW gun and even in a duty gun (talking about the backup guns LEOs carry):
- Adds weight
- Adds unneeded weight if more than 6 to 10 rounds
- Is not needed in actual self-defense (IMO and according to the FBI shooting data)
SUPPORTING DATA
(Posted in 2006)
The Armed Citizen - A Five Year Analysis
OVERVIEW OF SURVEY
For the period 1997 - 2001, reports from "The Armed Citizen" column of the NRA Journals were collected. There were 482 incidents available for inclusion in the analysis. All involved the use of firearms by private citizens in self defense or defense of others. No law enforcement related incidents were included. The database is self-selecting in that no non-positive outcomes were reported in the column.
DATA ANALYSIS
As might be expected, the majority of incidents (52%) took place in the home. Next most common locale (32%) was in a business. Incidents took place in public places in 9% of reports and 7% occurred in or around vehicles.
The most common initial crimes were armed robbery (32%), home invasion (30%), and burglary (18%).
Overall, shots were fired by the defender in 72% of incidents. *The average and median number of shots fired was 2.* When more than 2 shots were fired, it generally appeared that the defender's initial response was to fire until empty. It appears that revolver shooters are more likely to empty their guns than autoloader shooters. At least one assailant was killed in 34% of all incidents. At least one assailant was wounded in an additional 29% of all incidents. Of the incidents where shots are fired by a defender, at least one assailant is killed in 53% of those incidents.
Handguns were used in 78% of incidents while long guns were used in 13%; in the balance the type of firearm was not reported. The most common size of handgun was the .35 caliber family (.38, .357, 9mm) at 61%, with most .38s apparently being of the 5 shot variety. Mouseguns (.380s and below) were at 23%, and .40 caliber and up at 15%.
The range of most incidents appears to be short but in excess of touching distance. It appears that most defenders will make the shoot decision shortly before the criminal comes within arm's length. Defenders frequently communicate with their attackers before shooting.
The firearm was carried on the body of the defender in only 20% of incidents. In 80% of cases, the firearm was obtained from a place of storage, frequently in another room.
*Reloading was required in only 3 incidents.* One of those involved killing an escaped lion with a .32 caliber revolver, which was eventually successful after 13 shots.
Multiple conspirators were involved in 36% of the incidents. However, there were no apparent cases of getaway drivers or lookouts acting as reinforcements for the criminal actor(s) once shooting starts. At the sound of gunfire, immediate flight was the most common response for drivers and lookouts.
When multiple conspirators were involved, the first tier was a two man action team. If another member was available, he was usually the driver of the getaway car and remained in the car. If a fourth conspirator was involved, he was stationed immediately outside the target location as a lookout for the police or other possible intervening parties. The outside conspirators do not generally appear to be armed. It does appear that the trend over the period has increased from one weapon in the action team to two weapons.
The largest group of violent criminal actors was 7, a group that committed serial home invasions in Rochester NY. An alert and prepared homeowner, who saw them invade an adjacent home, accessed his shotgun, and dispatched them (2 killed and 1 seriously wounded) when they broke in his door.
Incidents rarely occurred in reaction time (i.e., ¼ second increments). Most commonly, criminals acted in a shark-like fashion, slowly circling and alerting their intended victims. The defender(s) then had time to access even weapons that were stored in other rooms and bring them to bear.
The most common responses of criminals upon being shot were to flee immediately or expire. With few exceptions, criminals ceased their advances immediately upon being shot. Even small caliber handguns displayed a significant degree of instant lethality (30 per cent immediate one shot kills) when employed at close range. Many criminal actors vocally expressed their fear of being shot when the defender displayed a weapon. Upon the criminals' flight, the "victims" frequently chased and captured or shot the criminals and held them for the authorities.
CONCLUSIONS
1) Even small caliber weapons are adequate to solve the vast majority of incidents requiring armed self-defense.
2) Mindset of the potential victim was far more important than the type of weapon used. All the victims were willing to fight their opponents in order to survive. Although not common, in some cases bridge weapons, such as pens, were used to gain time to access the firearm.
3) Frequently, the defenders were aware that something was amiss before the action started and then placed themselves in position to access their weapons. Awareness of the surroundings appears to be a key element of successful defense.
4) The defenders had some measure of familiarity with their firearms. Although perhaps not trained in the formal sense, they appear to be able to access a firearm and immediately put it into action. At least one defender learned from a previous experience and made the firearm more accessible for subsequent use.
5) Training or practice with a firearm should include a substantial amount of accessing the firearm from off body locations, such as drawers, underneath counters, etc.
6) This analysis does not present a view of the totality of armed self-defense in that non-positive outcomes were not available for inclusion in the database. The analysis may, however, be useful in helping to describe a methodology for successful armed self-defense. This methodology might be described as: 1. be aware, 2. be willing to fight, 3. have a weapon accessible, 4. be familiar enough with the weapon to employ it without fumbling, 5. when ready, communicate, both verbally and non-verbally, to the attacker that resistance will be given, and 6. if the attacker does not withdraw, counterattack without hesitation.
Data Tables
Location of Incident
Home 52%
Business 32%
Public 9%
In or around Vehicle 7%
Shots Fired
Type of Location No Yes
Business 33% 72%
Home 25% 75%
Public 29% 71%
In or around Vehicle 35% 65%
Grand Total 28% 72%
Number of Shots Fired
Average 2.2
Median 2
Mode 1
Max 20
Gun Type
Handgun 78%
Long Gun 13%
Unknown 8%
Body Carry
Type of Location No Yes
Business 69% 31%
Home 94% 6%
Public 49% 51%
In or around Vehicle 65% 35%
Overall 80% 20%
Multiple Assailants
Type of Location NO YES
Business 76% 24%
Home 72% 28%
Public 62% 38%
Retail Business 52% 48%
In or Around Vehicle 49% 51%
Overall 64% 36%
What do you think (in detail) *TheDvanlen10?* Thanks.
sweetcostarica My answer is:
#1 learn how how commenting works on RUclips. All commenters are just “talkers”. I don’t need proof because I wasn’t trying to prove anything
#2 I would suggest a Glock forum site for the activity you’re looking for but you’ve probably already been kicked off of them
#3 congratulations you won an argument that no one was having with you