Keep in mind that MTV & Nickelodeon are both under the Paramount umbrella so there is a direct connection between the 2 networks. At least they all are adults and not teenagers being coerced into doing erotic things under the tutelage of a sick fetish. Diddy had a show on VH1 and that network was owned by Paramount as well.
I wish Aviv was not a bananas angel. She is proving to be such a bad ass. I also like the way she approached Michele. She wasn't screaming or acting like a jerk, but she made her point.
I know. This has me all discombobulated. I like those three girls, but am not a Bananas fan. I usually don't root for Michelle or Tori, but if Cara has to side with them, then I want them to win. I'm out of my element. I do admit Tori is growing on me, especially with her Bananas feud.
Michele always has her list of people pretty set though. Even on 39 where she was literally working with/friends with so many people, her hierarchy was clear.
The fact that some of these people have watched bananas for years and dont know how he plays the game is laughable.. Like Rachel said, the best game against Bananas is ignoring him. He's an instigator and will cause drama, then walk away from it. While chiming in every few minutes. It is laughable at this point because the real players of the game know. Just walk away. It's Johnny. That's how he plays he gets in your head, and then has you worried about him when the real shot is coming from somewhere else. Why do you think Cara has barely interacted with him?? She knows his game lol.
Did you know Cara has a friend with her named Jimmy? He's the little pink puffball unicorn you see from time to time. He was in her gym bag early in the episode last night as she was leaving the house. My daughter gave that to her ❤️ It's her emotional support. Unicorn
@@shortycb2349 My daughter is 34 has cerebral palsy and currently is recovering from knee reconstruction surgery so it really made her extremely happy to see Jimmy again on TV ❤️
I'm so proud of cara that she got first place for the women I was mad that she wasn't winning dailies I'm glad she won this one coz last week I was really disappointed
Not a fan of Olivia, especially her confessionals. All of them want to speak of their sad song early life. It’s not where you start in life it’s where you end. Everyone has a story.
To me olivia screams hypocrite cus she talks about michelle being her BFF and how she would never want to hurt a BFF but she literally did las season lol
Jordan got super lucky with his win, Cara wins, and Michelle losing. Best outcome for him. Also, I don't get why so many people turn on Cory. Hope he doesn't go home next week.
He needs to start winning more dailies and politic just a bit more. He’s my favorite and I hope he becomes a champion one day. He does well in the finals but he seems to fall short in the worst checkpoint possible
As a survivor who’s played under worse conditions, it still surprises me how quickly and how often Michelle unravels. Survivor demands a lot too and as a representative, her flex being a “lady of leisure” and having Micheltdowns is upsetting me and my homegirls lol
I feel like survivor is more strategically worst. The challenge has a lot of instigators who do whatever they can to get under your skin. And for Michelle it works
Luv'ed that Cara won the daily and finished a classic Survivor puzzle that Michele should know. In fact many of the Survivor Super Fans build and practice this puzzle to the point supposedly Survivor production has retired it from the franchise.
It amazes me how much these contestants never watch their own shows. Michelle may have had no clue that was a Survivor puzzle unless it had been on her season. I'm always happy when an actual fan gets to compete.
Even thought Olivia and Michelle were the only non-Champs left. They’re still winners of their own respective shows. Olivia won Love Island and Michelle won Survivor. I think that just further proves how elite and strong this cast of women are this season! Truly the best of the best!
@ But not in a good way sure she’s a great competitor. It doesn’t change the fact that she’s completely unlikable. At least now Tori is completely unlikable.
Only thing that made me mad was they added the “puzzle” aspect of the the crossword at the end where as before (as late as ride or dies) it would be something of put in the right places, climb to the top and ring the bell. It almost feels like it caters to michelle a bit too much.
So happy you do recaps. I wish since I paid for paramount I could watch this season but I can't and it sucks. Least I get to know what happens because of your recaps. 😊
I cannot believe that Tori and Cara Maria are working together after all these years....Plus, Cara Maria working with Cory? What's the Challenge world coming too? Also, did someone on production forget about the 'Quiet on Set' controversy and the foot fetishes surrounding it?
Interesting for Michelle to say she’s frustrated by Josh playing the middle when that’s the game she played in USA 2, I also like that Josh has definitively taken a side even to his games detriment. Also why did production edit out the bus scene, what was said to Aviv that had her approach Michelle and Olivia afterwards for an apology?
@@canaomalstend3014 Do you think there was more implication than was shown? Cuz what they showed of her saying "can my feet join the party" felt more like spite at bananas angels in general/ poking fun at the weird foot stuff that everyone else was already talking about. I mean obviously it seemed to still give that implication to some people, so I'm glad she realized she shouldn't have said it-- but the actual line didn't really seem targeted in that way imo.
This episode also highlighted why Cory sucks at The Challenge. After he came in last he spent the entire time begging Michele not to pick him when he could’ve been building that relationship with her, Cara, and the other outsiders weeks ago.
I think he could be good if he made more strategic/smart moves, got better at puzzles, & didn’t wait so long to make alliances w/ppl. & he needs to realize he needs to get out his biggest threats in the game & who he can realistically beat in a final. But he doesn’t use his brain enough, that’s y he makes it to finals but comes in 2nd or 3rd.
I think Cory tried to make alliances he just ended up on the bottom b/c those ppl had their number 1s. He’s def not useless. Cory is a decent player he just needs to work a little more on his puzzle skills so he can keep winning and not have to rely on his friends to save him
I love how Johnny doesn't care about Laurel trying to call out Darrell and Emily for massages, but Michelle mentioning wanting to put her foot in the footsies game he's outraged by. It literally meant nothing, she was not attacking Aviv or her marriage in any way. Like bro get over your self-righteousness.
@cherissetillman8973 again, he didn't have this reaction to laurel when she tried to call out Darrell and Emily. And again Michelle's comment about joining in does not equate to "Aviv must be cheating on her husband"
@reddlogan5245 he reacted that way because he was directly involved in the conversation, there's a difference between your ally being called out for supposedly doing something with someone else thats married as opposed to you being that someone. Also i dont understand why people believe Bananas has to speak out against everything. The situation didnt cincern him, so he didnt say anything, literally no one else said anything, except Darrell and Emily who were directly involved. I guess he is supposed to just sit there and be quiet this time
@@reddlogan5245 however i will agree with you that it seemed like a bit of an overreaction, i didn't even see it as Michelle implying anything with Aviv, so i didnt understand why it made Johnny so upset initially, it was until I realized thats how they were intepreting it that i got what the fuss was about, but yeah it didn't come across as an infidelity accusation to me
I don't know if its MTV or the producers, but they really stretch some of these episodes to 90 minutes when they don't need to be. From the end of the daily to the elimination a big chunk of the episode was just talking about who will be targets for the following week.
Interesting fact is that Olivia keeps meeting her friends in eliminations. She faced Michelle twice, Nurys twice and Ravyn once. Michelle is also quietly building up a good elimination record.
So doesn't have to do with the episode but I've been mulling over the ratings twist we've yet to see come to fruition. You just know it's going to affect the finals in some way, which I'm not looking forward to. However what if it didn't? I think instead having them come in on the challenge before the final would actually be peak. Let the challenge be that the top man and woman earn their way into the final, then everyone else, lets say two more male and female have to earn their way in another challenge which is positively or negatively impacted based on ratings of former players. The idea being that the challenge has always been about friendships and relationships will get you to the final but, other than AS 4, it never wins you the final. So let it be the same here, how you treated others can get you to the final, or it can cost you the final.
After watching this episode, I went ahead and watched Survivor ko rong this week, Michelle's winning Survivor season. She played the middle throughout and her game got better towards the end. Kinda like what she tries to emulate every time she's on the challenge.
Michelle has to use what Jhonny says as a motivation, if she works in her physicality and stamina she will dominate this game, she's already socially and mentally strong, there is only one attribute left
I have to agree! Episode left me feeling wanting more for sure. Would’ve been more exciting as a viewer to watch Michelle not get last place and force Jordan to make a choice even though I am rooting for “Rachel’s Angels” but instead we got the Cara-Cory Alliance out of nowhere. Interesting development I guess, but not really they are the only two left on the outskirts of both alliances it only makes sense they align with each other. Episode was ALRIGHT. I did enjoy seeing Cara win finally especially when it mattered most. Hopefully next week heats up! Def feeling kinda spoiled after two great episodes to have what feels like a filler episode.
Did anybody else also noticed that Derek's puzzle was actually incorrectly given the correct notion from TJ (The blue piece was on the wrong side)? And Cory somehow ended up with 1 puzzle piece too many (he has 2 red ones, you see it clearly in the still when he is holding the blue piece. He has 7 pieces)...
11:07 Confused how Josh helps them more than Bananas ??? Lol he loves dat guy & tbh don’t matter what Liv did/if she threw the Elim.. Michelle is 3-0 in Elims this szn and like 4-1 all time ??? She up there with Jenny and Ky for best on Era4
Besides numbers game, Michele and Olivia haven't proven anything, and once again they have the bold statement they will win the finals together....that's pretty bold. Also Michele comparing herself as Cara (literally once of the best female competitors ever).....um ok. It's also funny during the bus argument how each side will stretch the true to make their side feel like the victim. You see it from both sides. Also, after the elimination was over, it was alllllll annoying air time, watching and listening to Olivia and Michele talk and say goodbye. They made it seem like a scene from a movie when someone died. Karma came for Olivia and Michele this episode for last season. Did Michele forget, not only did she made Olivia betray Nurys, also that group lead by Jay and Michele forced Nurys to face against Kylan and Horacio? Oh, they also made Nurys at that time have to pick her Olivia her BFF at the time and Horacio the bf. So Karma made her face against her (BFF)......serves them right. Selective memory I feel like.
Production really was trying to milk their sadness. It cracked me up when it kept panning to Derek in the stands dabbing his eyes at the end. 😂 Meanwhile, I'm like isn't there something more interesting going on somewhere else in the house? At least like five minutes of other contestants instead of thirty minutes of Michelle and Olivia being distraught.
@ lol right? I would have enjoyed the foot conversation with bananas and his angels more than that good bye….i also loved how Olivia was rambling on and on with her goodbye confessional and production like cut her off the screen.
This was the worst episode of the season for me. It was obvious that it will be Michele vs Olivia as soon as I saw the video of Ev vs KellyAnne in the 1st minute of the episode. I was bored with all the feet talk, of all the Michele crying and whining, of all the back and forth between Michele and Johnny. The only good thing was that Josh was nominated as a target.
@jeric0777 Yes, true. I was just annoyed that they seemed to use the same stuff over and over, instead I would like maybe some more scene of goofing around, something personal or something else non-strategy related just because the game talk seemed to be repetitive.
@@MM-tz2bs I totally agree. You'd think at least one other person in the house had done something on camera that was more interesting than all the time given to Michelle and Olivia. I was disappointed in production leaning on that so heavily. It also makes me wonder if they're trying to push them on us because they're the new generation going forward.
@jeric0777 yeah, you are right, could be. You'd think that they'd learned by now that you can fall in love with people even if you dont show strategy only talk.
There was definitely something cut from what Michele's said on the bus. There is no way the fight broke out over that and Michele saying "can i join the feet party"
That's what I'm stuck on-- that line alone just felt like her lashing out at bananas angels in general/ making a comment about the foot stuff everyone else had already been talking about. If that was it, it feels like a but of an overreaction. But I guess even if that was all she said, if people were able to jump there (even if it was kind of a jump), it could still be harmful to Aviv. Glad Michele seemed to realize she shouldn't have said it either way, but I was genuinely confused at first when Johnny said it was a low blow at Aviv cuz I literally just thought she was saying the foot shit was weird in general which it kinda is.
All the feet being talked about this episode I was thinking someone is going to get a foot injury or the elimination was going to be stomping grapes or sum
I had a feeling that Cara might have a deal with Cory since he never chose her as a target. And he most likely only got the #1 spot after Theo was eliminated.
When Tori called Cara Maria a friend I was god smacked. Jordan’s comment about not wanting to hear the best friend bullshit in the chamber made me laugh because that told me who his decision would have been. I think Cara Maria performs the best when the pressure is on her. She’s basically the opposite of josh and Michele she turns up when she’s on the line daily or elimination. I think people underestimate Caras and Jordan’s puzzle abilities. She’s good at odd puzzles that god it wasn’t math tho. Bananas and cara would have probably been last. If there are math equations in the final, then I’m going to annoyed. Are we ever going to get another physical elimination.
If you watch Nia post the night where Olivia and Tori were talking on the bench her and Theo were down in the street throwing peanuts and calling them. Until they saw. Then they had to leave because production chased them away
I had high hopes for this season because they were bringing back heavy hitters, but they were eliminated so early. Note the sore looks like the last 6 seasons.
I actually like Cory a lot this season, was hoping Michele would save him but saw it coming that she wouldn't based on the edit. I wonder if her decision was influenced by an idea that Cory would have a better chance in elimination to beat Bananas compared to Derek.
I mean a lot of feet content by bananas angels. The other thing is not having a chamber and Michelle and Olivia squaring of on a elimination overall. The stunning part is the unlikely alliance between Cara Maria and Tori deal which i never thought we would see.😁
This episode was okay, the feet talk was weird lol. but the daily challenge played out perfectly with Cara winning and Michelle losing. I did want Olivia to go home because the next girl day Michelle will most likely do bad and go home anyway.
Anyone else think it’s weird Drew made the title “Cara-Tori” when it really should have been about “Cara-Cory”? He didn’t even talk about Cara and Cory at all and that was the main thing I took away from this episode. Other than feet🙄
This episodes challenges/ elimination was straight out of Survivor. The Pyramid puzzle and the word scramble ( I’m pretty sure they used a very similar riddle answer) .
i know its not relevant at all but notice how during the puzzle part of the elim michelle's tether is much more of a disadvantage than olivia's. I know it not important but i think they shoulda been unstraped
idk if this is a hot take but if this wasnt a cast full of legends, people would be talking about this season as one of the weakest overall. it feels like so much is being cut from the edit and most of the episodes are dominated by 2-3 people and i think the format is to blame
I feel like they should've made it more interesting and let Cara replace her target after she won the daily. I'm not sure if it would've mattered but I would've loved to see Jordan have to show some of his cards since he was off the table to be a target next week anyway.
This episode was kind of filler, but everyone's game is more or less out in the open. First, this episode was mostly Michelle and Bananas trolling each other with Bananas getting the upper hand. Second, the 40-yard dash daily was great. Jordan killed it, and put himself in a good position to make the final. Moreover, Cara Maria came in clutch with a quality win; and Olivia performed well. Second, I like that Cory's making some moves- working with Cara is better than Michelle. Also, Josh joining the Angels was to be expected- but Bananas will bite him in the ass (Rachel will claim plausible deniability). Third, the stranded elimination was cool; Michelle had the better strategy, and got the W as a result (She's now 3-0 in eliminations). All in all, Bananas' Angels have the numbers (unless Tori, Jordan, Kyalnd, & Michelle team up with Cara & Cory); and Derek has done well avoiding eliminations or being a target. Finally, whoever side wins next week will be able to control the game- barring a double-elimination or purge.
Cory has lost so many years promoting his playa' persona that he has no legit relationships. He will always be odd man out in whatever alliance he floats to, too late.
Great Review Drew Brother! The episode was okay to me I felt it should have been 60 minutes instead of 90 minutes so much filler before the elimination.
Hopefully anyone from bananas side goes home asap, they are on my nerves. 😂 I’m rooting for the other alliance for sure. Also, I don’t think anyone is jealous of bananas alliance. He may be good physically, but not worth working with.
i dont think olivia threw that elimination or took it easy. michelle's always been good at puzzles, and her decision to lay out the pipes in the beginning was genius!
I WAS SO CONFUSED ABOUT THE FEET SCENE. As in, I was staring at the screen actively paying attention, but I was so confused. Im so happy Cara finally won something. I’m tired of Michelle whining about…well…having to compete. On a show called the challenge lol. She’s insufferable. This whole episode was wack because of michelle/bananas and michelle/olivia.
Please send Josh into elimination next week. Bananas & Corey have gone in but Josh has skated by. Someone with his elimination record should have to earn their way into the final
Michelle is proving herself with her elimination wins, have to respect that. But it was a dirty move going after the feet contact between Aviv and Bananas, she definitely wanted to get back at Bananas but she didn't think about Aviv when she made that move. The scene where Aviv confronts her civilly about it was good for both of them. Laurel really looked bad with her dispassionate attitude, def. have to wonder why she'd even do this season if she would just quit like that and now all the social media stuff going on with her is taking it to another level. She's definitely lost pretty much all the respect I had for her. I still don't like how Michelle was just intimidated by her a few seasons ago but Laurel has just worn out her welcome now. Good win for Cara, it really seems that she and Cory are quietly big threats to win this season although Rachel is formidable for Cara. Looking forward to seeing how Cory approaches things from here on out since it seems like he can't get anyone on the same page as him. With Nehemiah gone he's really on his own but plenty formidable.
I wonder why angelcake still watches this, he always says hes not happy with a lot of things, the challenges the elimination, the nominations etc; what does he like? 😂
Bananas foot fetishized content and the level of it was wild. Feet focus give me the ick. Cara winning was awesome and I kind of liked that it allowed for a lot more old school content minus the feet shit.
The dailies seem to frazzle Michele especially when she is doing it as a solo player, however in elimination she seems to be able to calm down and laser focus on what she is doing and she wins. I just wish Michele can apply that same technique to her dailies.
I saw somebody in the comments on Instagram saying “What in the Dan Schneider is going on with these feet scenes” or something like that 😂😂😂
I saw that too! 😂
😂 That's a good one.
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Keep in mind that MTV & Nickelodeon are both under the Paramount umbrella so there is a direct connection between the 2 networks. At least they all are adults and not teenagers being coerced into doing erotic things under the tutelage of a sick fetish.
Diddy had a show on VH1 and that network was owned by Paramount as well.
Cara and Corey is the alliance that I never knew that I needed.
Yep and I feel like we are all for it. They're a pretty strong duo if you ask me 👀
@@Scorpio_01993and they’ve always been the odd man out when it came to how the games going especially with alliances
Cara is the worst
@@superextragetem9674 okay buddy 👍
@@B.HARRRR okay buddy what?
I think Kyland actually hit the nail on the head with Josh. Josh can be friends with everyone but he can't be in an alliance with everyone.
Kyland said that
@@chargestone96and it makes no sense lol
@@AliFrankTheTankit clearly does? 😂😂
I thought Kyland Said that !!!
@@chrisk240 throwing someone in but being buddy buddy isn’t them off the show is what y’all praise Amanda for bashing tori 😂😂😂😂😂😂
can we talk about how funny cory is? "jordans doing parkour"
Throwing the phrase "my best friend in the house" seems to be a common theme season to season
Specially Olivia
@@ladyofsaints8782Michelle and Olivia are annoying with that best friends stuff. Lol
You know it’s not a season with Michelle if not her infamous Micheltdown 😅😅
I wish Aviv was not a bananas angel. She is proving to be such a bad ass. I also like the way she approached Michele. She wasn't screaming or acting like a jerk, but she made her point.
I know. This has me all discombobulated. I like those three girls, but am not a Bananas fan. I usually don't root for Michelle or Tori, but if Cara has to side with them, then I want them to win. I'm out of my element. I do admit Tori is growing on me, especially with her Bananas feud.
I agree! I’ve never watched the season she was on and I think she’s such a great competitor. I hope she does more flagship seasons after this
Cara and Cory are my favorite challengers of all time personally. So seeing them being each others number 1’s now damn near made me cry.
I’m glad they finally made it official. I don’t know why they didn’t do this earlier.
Ranks third on alliances this szn rn
Cory is your favorite all time? 😭
Michelle is mad at Josh cause he is friends with everyone yet she plays exactly like him and is allies with him everyone
They do remind me of each other a lot.
Michele does tend to have actual priorities though, Josh is just lost in the sauce
Michele always has her list of people pretty set though. Even on 39 where she was literally working with/friends with so many people, her hierarchy was clear.
Jordan didn't want to win but he had to put Kyland in his place lol
😂😂😂 he literally won to prove a point lol
Honestly if Kyland played as much as Jordan did, Jordan wouldn’t have won as much as he did
I don't know about that @@Rico401Prov
@@Rico401ProvI don't know about that
Jordan channeled his namesake and basically said, "It became personal with me," lol.
The fact that some of these people have watched bananas for years and dont know how he plays the game is laughable..
Like Rachel said, the best game against Bananas is ignoring him. He's an instigator and will cause drama, then walk away from it. While chiming in every few minutes.
It is laughable at this point because the real players of the game know. Just walk away. It's Johnny. That's how he plays he gets in your head, and then has you worried about him when the real shot is coming from somewhere else.
Why do you think Cara has barely interacted with him?? She knows his game lol.
Did you know Cara has a friend with her named Jimmy? He's the little pink puffball unicorn you see from time to time. He was in her gym bag early in the episode last night as she was leaving the house. My daughter gave that to her ❤️ It's her emotional support. Unicorn
That’s cute 💙🩵
I saw it! So cute!!
@@shortycb2349 My daughter is 34 has cerebral palsy and currently is recovering from knee reconstruction surgery so it really made her extremely happy to see Jimmy again on TV ❤️
We ALL NEED emotional support unicorns...sigh!
Prove it
I'm so proud of cara that she got first place for the women I was mad that she wasn't winning dailies I'm glad she won this one coz last week I was really disappointed
The needy greedy joke gets me every time lol
Glad Michelle won the elimation, I'm still not over how Olivia treated Nurys last season
The only thing Olivia ever done.
Not a fan of Olivia, especially her confessionals. All of them want to speak of their sad song early life. It’s not where you start in life it’s where you end. Everyone has a story.
@wfndb738 yes it about what you do with your life.
Olivia is so fking delusional, I feel gaslit. Lol
To me olivia screams hypocrite cus she talks about michelle being her BFF and how she would never want to hurt a BFF but she literally did las season lol
Jordan got super lucky with his win, Cara wins, and Michelle losing. Best outcome for him. Also, I don't get why so many people turn on Cory. Hope he doesn't go home next week.
I think people like Cory on a personal level but he’s pretty much useless
@@Zay6005I wouldn't say useless. He is a better player than Josh and Derek
He needs to start winning more dailies and politic just a bit more. He’s my favorite and I hope he becomes a champion one day. He does well in the finals but he seems to fall short in the worst checkpoint possible
As a survivor who’s played under worse conditions, it still surprises me how quickly and how often Michelle unravels. Survivor demands a lot too and as a representative, her flex being a “lady of leisure” and having Micheltdowns is upsetting me and my homegirls lol
I feel like survivor is more strategically worst. The challenge has a lot of instigators who do whatever they can to get under your skin. And for Michelle it works
I had a feeling it was going to be michelle vs olivia when they showed the evelyn vs kellyanne flashback.
I thought with that flashback someone was going to throw the elimination. Glad neither one of them did
It was so obvious Michelle was going to win because it was really showing who she thought she would target if she won and not Olivia
Luv'ed that Cara won the daily and finished a classic Survivor puzzle that Michele should know. In fact many of the Survivor Super Fans build and practice this puzzle to the point supposedly Survivor production has retired it from the franchise.
It amazes me how much these contestants never watch their own shows. Michelle may have had no clue that was a Survivor puzzle unless it had been on her season. I'm always happy when an actual fan gets to compete.
Even thought Olivia and Michelle were the only non-Champs left. They’re still winners of their own respective shows.
Olivia won Love Island and Michelle won Survivor. I think that just further proves how elite and strong this cast of women are this season!
Truly the best of the best!
Don’t think Derek has ever won anything
Cara and Tori working together who knew?
I think those two are badass and should have allied a long time ago!
@@Scorpio_01993Their are both badass! Tori just need to chill out and understand it a show!
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 yeah she has her moments but if you see her from dirty 30 to now, she has come a long way 💪
@ But not in a good way sure she’s a great competitor. It doesn’t change the fact that she’s completely unlikable. At least now Tori is completely unlikable.
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 As a competitor tho, she's a beast gotta give her that
Michelle comparing herself to Cara is crazy
Delusional even
Only thing that made me mad was they added the “puzzle” aspect of the the crossword at the end where as before (as late as ride or dies) it would be something of put in the right places, climb to the top and ring the bell. It almost feels like it caters to michelle a bit too much.
So happy you do recaps. I wish since I paid for paramount I could watch this season but I can't and it sucks. Least I get to know what happens because of your recaps. 😊
Too much Michelle. Don’t want to hear from her at all for a few episodes.
@@dontread12 NO SPOILERS .... PLEASE DON'T SPOIL IT FOR EVERYONE!!!
She REFUSES to take that second L
Watch another show then! 😂
I cannot believe that Tori and Cara Maria are working together after all these years....Plus, Cara Maria working with Cory? What's the Challenge world coming too? Also, did someone on production forget about the 'Quiet on Set' controversy and the foot fetishes surrounding it?
Maybe since that was unknowing minors and these are consenting adults, but yeah it's weird.
Interesting for Michelle to say she’s frustrated by Josh playing the middle when that’s the game she played in USA 2, I also like that Josh has definitively taken a side even to his games detriment. Also why did production edit out the bus scene, what was said to Aviv that had her approach Michelle and Olivia afterwards for an apology?
It was just about Bananas and her playing footsie and Michelle basically implying that they have something going on when Aviv is married.
@@canaomalstend3014 Do you think there was more implication than was shown? Cuz what they showed of her saying "can my feet join the party" felt more like spite at bananas angels in general/ poking fun at the weird foot stuff that everyone else was already talking about. I mean obviously it seemed to still give that implication to some people, so I'm glad she realized she shouldn't have said it-- but the actual line didn't really seem targeted in that way imo.
Were Olivia and Michele upset about going against one another? It was barely mentioned in the episode 🤔
😂 I know. You'd think it would have came up at least once.
This episode also highlighted why Cory sucks at The Challenge. After he came in last he spent the entire time begging Michele not to pick him when he could’ve been building that relationship with her, Cara, and the other outsiders weeks ago.
Cory is pretty much useless!
Besides Nelson who does Cory have a good relationship with? No one.
I actually like Cory, but I agree to an extent. I don't think he's useless, but I can agree his social game sucks
I think he could be good if he made more strategic/smart moves, got better at puzzles, & didn’t wait so long to make alliances w/ppl. & he needs to realize he needs to get out his biggest threats in the game & who he can realistically beat in a final. But he doesn’t use his brain enough, that’s y he makes it to finals but comes in 2nd or 3rd.
I think Cory tried to make alliances he just ended up on the bottom b/c those ppl had their number 1s. He’s def not useless. Cory is a decent player he just needs to work a little more on his puzzle skills so he can keep winning and not have to rely on his friends to save him
I love how Johnny doesn't care about Laurel trying to call out Darrell and Emily for massages, but Michelle mentioning wanting to put her foot in the footsies game he's outraged by. It literally meant nothing, she was not attacking Aviv or her marriage in any way. Like bro get over your self-righteousness.
Mitchell acknowledged she did wrong by making that comment
He was protecting her because she is married. That's why he reacted that way. If she was single, he wouldn't have done that
@cherissetillman8973 again, he didn't have this reaction to laurel when she tried to call out Darrell and Emily. And again Michelle's comment about joining in does not equate to "Aviv must be cheating on her husband"
@reddlogan5245 he reacted that way because he was directly involved in the conversation, there's a difference between your ally being called out for supposedly doing something with someone else thats married as opposed to you being that someone.
Also i dont understand why people believe Bananas has to speak out against everything. The situation didnt cincern him, so he didnt say anything, literally no one else said anything, except Darrell and Emily who were directly involved.
I guess he is supposed to just sit there and be quiet this time
@@reddlogan5245 however i will agree with you that it seemed like a bit of an overreaction, i didn't even see it as Michelle implying anything with Aviv, so i didnt understand why it made Johnny so upset initially, it was until I realized thats how they were intepreting it that i got what the fuss was about, but yeah it didn't come across as an infidelity accusation to me
Johnny is so frustrating to watch this season. Always crying when things don’t go his way, it’s no wonder he gets thrown in all the time.
I don't know if its MTV or the producers, but they really stretch some of these episodes to 90 minutes when they don't need to be. From the end of the daily to the elimination a big chunk of the episode was just talking about who will be targets for the following week.
They could have pushed in next weeks daily challenge and left on a cliff hanger or something. The middle portion just seemed pointless
There was so much feet content, it got funny in retrospect, but at the time, I thought it was so weird.
Interesting fact is that Olivia keeps meeting her friends in eliminations. She faced Michelle twice, Nurys twice and Ravyn once.
Michelle is also quietly building up a good elimination record.
So doesn't have to do with the episode but I've been mulling over the ratings twist we've yet to see come to fruition.
You just know it's going to affect the finals in some way, which I'm not looking forward to.
However what if it didn't? I think instead having them come in on the challenge before the final would actually be peak. Let the challenge be that the top man and woman earn their way into the final, then everyone else, lets say two more male and female have to earn their way in another challenge which is positively or negatively impacted based on ratings of former players.
The idea being that the challenge has always been about friendships and relationships will get you to the final but, other than AS 4, it never wins you the final. So let it be the same here, how you treated others can get you to the final, or it can cost you the final.
After watching this episode, I went ahead and watched Survivor ko rong this week, Michelle's winning Survivor season. She played the middle throughout and her game got better towards the end. Kinda like what she tries to emulate every time she's on the challenge.
Michelle has to use what Jhonny says as a motivation, if she works in her physicality and stamina she will dominate this game, she's already socially and mentally strong, there is only one attribute left
I'm tired while watching this. Paused the video and questioned myself if the actual phrase is needy greedy 🤣
I have to agree! Episode left me feeling wanting more for sure. Would’ve been more exciting as a viewer to watch Michelle not get last place and force Jordan to make a choice even though I am rooting for “Rachel’s Angels” but instead we got the Cara-Cory Alliance out of nowhere. Interesting development I guess, but not really they are the only two left on the outskirts of both alliances it only makes sense they align with each other. Episode was ALRIGHT. I did enjoy seeing Cara win finally especially when it mattered most. Hopefully next week heats up! Def feeling kinda spoiled after two great episodes to have what feels like a filler episode.
Josh being part of the alliance doesnt help anyone else in the alliance since Josh will never win anything.
Thanks ❤Drew
Did anybody else also noticed that Derek's puzzle was actually incorrectly given the correct notion from TJ (The blue piece was on the wrong side)? And Cory somehow ended up with 1 puzzle piece too many (he has 2 red ones, you see it clearly in the still when he is holding the blue piece. He has 7 pieces)...
They were 100% playing footsies on the bus idk y they were trying to say it didnt happen
11:07 Confused how Josh helps them more than Bananas ??? Lol he loves dat guy
& tbh don’t matter what Liv did/if she threw the Elim.. Michelle is 3-0 in Elims this szn and like 4-1 all time ??? She up there with Jenny and Ky for best on Era4
When they show too much error 4 I’m bored the best thing about this episode was Bananas and Jordan. I wanna see them run the final with Corey.
Besides numbers game, Michele and Olivia haven't proven anything, and once again they have the bold statement they will win the finals together....that's pretty bold. Also Michele comparing herself as Cara (literally once of the best female competitors ever).....um ok. It's also funny during the bus argument how each side will stretch the true to make their side feel like the victim. You see it from both sides.
Also, after the elimination was over, it was alllllll annoying air time, watching and listening to Olivia and Michele talk and say goodbye. They made it seem like a scene from a movie when someone died. Karma came for Olivia and Michele this episode for last season. Did Michele forget, not only did she made Olivia betray Nurys, also that group lead by Jay and Michele forced Nurys to face against Kylan and Horacio? Oh, they also made Nurys at that time have to pick her Olivia her BFF at the time and Horacio the bf. So Karma made her face against her (BFF)......serves them right. Selective memory I feel like.
The challenge always finds a way to payback and put you in the bad situation you put others
Michele is doing amazing rn 3 eliminations wins in one season is good
@@runawaycloak1752 for sure, Michele has been surprising most. She’s not the best, but she’s good.
Production really was trying to milk their sadness. It cracked me up when it kept panning to Derek in the stands dabbing his eyes at the end. 😂 Meanwhile, I'm like isn't there something more interesting going on somewhere else in the house? At least like five minutes of other contestants instead of thirty minutes of Michelle and Olivia being distraught.
@ lol right? I would have enjoyed the foot conversation with bananas and his angels more than that good bye….i also loved how Olivia was rambling on and on with her goodbye confessional and production like cut her off the screen.
This was the worst episode of the season for me.
It was obvious that it will be Michele vs Olivia as soon as I saw the video of Ev vs KellyAnne in the 1st minute of the episode.
I was bored with all the feet talk, of all the Michele crying and whining, of all the back and forth between Michele and Johnny. The only good thing was that Josh was nominated as a target.
It seemed like without a Chamber scene, they were scrambling for filler.
@jeric0777 Yes, true. I was just annoyed that they seemed to use the same stuff over and over, instead I would like maybe some more scene of goofing around, something personal or something else non-strategy related just because the game talk seemed to be repetitive.
@@MM-tz2bs I totally agree. You'd think at least one other person in the house had done something on camera that was more interesting than all the time given to Michelle and Olivia. I was disappointed in production leaning on that so heavily. It also makes me wonder if they're trying to push them on us because they're the new generation going forward.
@jeric0777 yeah, you are right, could be. You'd think that they'd learned by now that you can fall in love with people even if you dont show strategy only talk.
@MM-tz2bs I know. Very true. And when they try to push people on us, it tends to backfire.
The targets thing is played out already since it’s so few people left
There was definitely something cut from what Michele's said on the bus. There is no way the fight broke out over that and Michele saying "can i join the feet party"
That's what I'm stuck on-- that line alone just felt like her lashing out at bananas angels in general/ making a comment about the foot stuff everyone else had already been talking about. If that was it, it feels like a but of an overreaction. But I guess even if that was all she said, if people were able to jump there (even if it was kind of a jump), it could still be harmful to Aviv. Glad Michele seemed to realize she shouldn't have said it either way, but I was genuinely confused at first when Johnny said it was a low blow at Aviv cuz I literally just thought she was saying the foot shit was weird in general which it kinda is.
You should definitely make another sting board of the alliances. This was a very revealing episode.
Reloading RUclips waiting on this video 😅
Bananas is a hypocrite. Michelle is doing terrible. Derrick is playing the best social game. Jordan is killing it this episode/ season
Derek hangs out with the girls the most so this format probably benefits him more than anybody
All the feet being talked about this episode I was thinking someone is going to get a foot injury or the elimination was going to be stomping grapes or sum
So when is Derek and Josh going to see an elimination.
If Bananas wins the next elimination Tori can finally be a target!
Aviv was in the Israeli Air Force.
I had a feeling that Cara might have a deal with Cory since he never chose her as a target. And he most likely only got the #1 spot after Theo was eliminated.
I hate the way he plays cuz he doesn't play smart. All those people he was defending yet they dont have him on their list
@s.r6331 yeah me too. He flounders on the main show. His social game was much better on the Challenge USA 2.
Good video angeldadddy
I think Cara and Cory being and forming a alliance is interesting because they don't got to many people backing them up overall.🤔
When Tori called Cara Maria a friend I was god smacked. Jordan’s comment about not wanting to hear the best friend bullshit in the chamber made me laugh because that told me who his decision would have been. I think Cara Maria performs the best when the pressure is on her. She’s basically the opposite of josh and Michele she turns up when she’s on the line daily or elimination. I think people underestimate Caras and Jordan’s puzzle abilities. She’s good at odd puzzles that god it wasn’t math tho. Bananas and cara would have probably been last. If there are math equations in the final, then I’m going to annoyed. Are we ever going to get another physical elimination.
If you watch Nia post the night where Olivia and Tori were talking on the bench her and Theo were down in the street throwing peanuts and calling them. Until they saw. Then they had to leave because production chased them away
I had high hopes for this season because they were bringing back heavy hitters, but they were eliminated so early. Note the sore looks like the last 6 seasons.
I actually like Cory a lot this season, was hoping Michele would save him but saw it coming that she wouldn't based on the edit. I wonder if her decision was influenced by an idea that Cory would have a better chance in elimination to beat Bananas compared to Derek.
Man will I be the only member of the cast that will blame Tori for causing us to be targets lol
I mean a lot of feet content by bananas angels. The other thing is not having a chamber and Michelle and Olivia squaring of on a elimination overall. The stunning part is the unlikely alliance between Cara Maria and Tori deal which i never thought we would see.😁
This episode was okay, the feet talk was weird lol. but the daily challenge played out perfectly with Cara winning and Michelle losing. I did want Olivia to go home because the next girl day Michelle will most likely do bad and go home anyway.
Feel like there setting bananas up to get screwed by eliminated players
Definitely!
Anyone else think it’s weird Drew made the title “Cara-Tori” when it really should have been about “Cara-Cory”?
He didn’t even talk about Cara and Cory at all and that was the main thing I took away from this episode.
Other than feet🙄
Cara-Cory could definitely do some damage together!
This episodes challenges/ elimination was straight out of Survivor. The Pyramid puzzle and the word scramble ( I’m pretty sure they used a very similar riddle answer) .
didnt they do that puzzle in ww2 final where Paulie peices together after being half dead
i know its not relevant at all but notice how during the puzzle part of the elim michelle's tether is much more of a disadvantage than olivia's. I know it not important but i think they shoulda been unstraped
idk if this is a hot take but if this wasnt a cast full of legends, people would be talking about this season as one of the weakest overall. it feels like so much is being cut from the edit and most of the episodes are dominated by 2-3 people and i think the format is to blame
I feel like they should've made it more interesting and let Cara replace her target after she won the daily. I'm not sure if it would've mattered but I would've loved to see Jordan have to show some of his cards since he was off the table to be a target next week anyway.
Thought it was directed by Dan Schneider
This episode was kind of filler, but everyone's game is more or less out in the open. First, this episode was mostly Michelle and Bananas trolling each other with Bananas getting the upper hand. Second, the 40-yard dash daily was great. Jordan killed it, and put himself in a good position to make the final. Moreover, Cara Maria came in clutch with a quality win; and Olivia performed well. Second, I like that Cory's making some moves- working with Cara is better than Michelle. Also, Josh joining the Angels was to be expected- but Bananas will bite him in the ass (Rachel will claim plausible deniability). Third, the stranded elimination was cool; Michelle had the better strategy, and got the W as a result (She's now 3-0 in eliminations).
All in all, Bananas' Angels have the numbers (unless Tori, Jordan, Kyalnd, & Michelle team up with Cara & Cory); and Derek has done well avoiding eliminations or being a target. Finally, whoever side wins next week will be able to control the game- barring a double-elimination or purge.
Cory has lost so many years promoting his playa' persona that he has no legit relationships. He will always be odd man out in whatever alliance he floats to, too late.
Plus neither of his geuine alliance members (Nelson and Hunter) compete anymore so he really only has Aneesa
@@dararupert7199 And she burned him in Bloodlines. She will always do as Bananas tells her, if he's on the show with her.
Great Review Drew Brother! The episode was okay to me I felt it should have been 60 minutes instead of 90 minutes so much filler before the elimination.
Hopefully anyone from bananas side goes home asap, they are on my nerves. 😂 I’m rooting for the other alliance for sure.
Also, I don’t think anyone is jealous of bananas alliance. He may be good physically, but not worth working with.
Did you get tired of bananas Angels showing there feet in there content shorty CB and did it get you to cringe?🤔😂
i dont think olivia threw that elimination or took it easy. michelle's always been good at puzzles, and her decision to lay out the pipes in the beginning was genius!
I enjoyed seeing Cory and Cara partner up. I was wondering why they didn’t do that sooner since they were both loners for a minute
I WAS SO CONFUSED ABOUT THE FEET SCENE. As in, I was staring at the screen actively paying attention, but I was so confused.
Im so happy Cara finally won something.
I’m tired of Michelle whining about…well…having to compete. On a show called the challenge lol. She’s insufferable. This whole episode was wack because of michelle/bananas and michelle/olivia.
S40: Battle of the BUNIONS and Big Toes . what a Slugger of a season!
Please send Josh into elimination next week. Bananas & Corey have gone in but Josh has skated by. Someone with his elimination record should have to earn their way into the final
Josh is terrible at eliminations he shouldn’t be in elimination because once he is in elimination he will lose
I'd be happy to see Josh vs Bananas.
Michelle is proving herself with her elimination wins, have to respect that. But it was a dirty move going after the feet contact between Aviv and Bananas, she definitely wanted to get back at Bananas but she didn't think about Aviv when she made that move. The scene where Aviv confronts her civilly about it was good for both of them. Laurel really looked bad with her dispassionate attitude, def. have to wonder why she'd even do this season if she would just quit like that and now all the social media stuff going on with her is taking it to another level. She's definitely lost pretty much all the respect I had for her. I still don't like how Michelle was just intimidated by her a few seasons ago but Laurel has just worn out her welcome now. Good win for Cara, it really seems that she and Cory are quietly big threats to win this season although Rachel is formidable for Cara. Looking forward to seeing how Cory approaches things from here on out since it seems like he can't get anyone on the same page as him. With Nehemiah gone he's really on his own but plenty formidable.
Jordan can't be trusted! And that's why he wins the whole season!
Bananas performance this season reminding me of free agents. I hope we get the same outcome 👀
Man this season has really ruined bananas and laurels reputation. They are both just unbearable.
Really rooting for Cory in this one. Everyone else is so petty and obnoxious, and Cory is just trying to play the game.
Loving Michele this season… she’s sticking up for herself and kicking ass in these eliminations… say what you want but she’s a star this season 👑🔥
It's not needy greedy. It's nitty gritty. But I think I like it 😆
Nelson would disagree. Lol
He knows lol. He is mocking a mistake Nelson made seasons ago
I figured he said it on purpose, but not sure why. Thanks yall 😊
Aviv is a trooper but I feel it for her in the finals
I wonder why angelcake still watches this, he always says hes not happy with a lot of things, the challenges the elimination, the nominations etc; what does he like? 😂
Bananas foot fetishized content and the level of it was wild. Feet focus give me the ick. Cara winning was awesome and I kind of liked that it allowed for a lot more old school content minus the feet shit.
The dailies seem to frazzle Michele especially when she is doing it as a solo player, however in elimination she seems to be able to calm down and laser focus on what she is doing and she wins. I just wish Michele can apply that same technique to her dailies.
The episode of FEET!!
I’m over these none physical eliminations tho . Bring the physical stuff back now . This should’ve been a Hall brawl or balls in
Was Dan "I beat my meat to feet" Schinder behind the cameras on this episode?
Did Laurel get the boot??
She got purged out in the mini final, last episode
Someone high edited this video 😂