I am impressed how they can actually make BOTH versions run like rarely below 30 fps. It just shows how they're not being lazy, porting and recycling engines like activision does with call of duty, but instead, doing your best to make both version enjoyable.
bad company 2 on ps3 was the funnest ive ever had with the game because it was social, could sit around with mates smoking cones and doing rails drinking beer and throw the controller round
Running 100 cars down a 2 lane sand drive way and then a 4 lane asphalt driveway 100meters apart all diverging at some point to meet at a certain point results in less cars reaching the destination as opposed to running 100 cars down a 10 lane driveway going straight to a point.
@core6198 but don't forget that the developers don't make the games for a specific pc configuration, so they will always develop their games according to the top hardware specifications for the pc. And the consoles are made only for gaming so the games will run more or less well. In a very short period of time, a pc can get old.
@core6198 yeah i know what you mean,but for example, to run bad company 2 on pc,you dont really need a 2000 bucks computer,any decnt gaming pc could run it on max settings with no problem, except that a better pc could run it with more fps.but even if you had 2 gtx 560 cards(one of the most powerful cards right now)the graphics would of still look the same than a single card cause every game had its top limit and like i said, this game doesnt require that much.
İ've played BC2 and BF 3 in 2023. İ can say, if frame rate is important for you, you need to play BC2. İt has perfect frame rate. On the other hand, BF 3 has optimized but low fps. But still has realistic game mechanics and graphics. Both of them enjoyable and my favorite BF games for PS3
@iamgig9876 The Xbox 360 has a GPU which utilizes 48 Unified shader for higher framerates pipelines whereas the PS3 utilizes 8 vertex pipelines and 24 pixel pipelines. Nvidia (which builds the PS3 GPU) switched to unified pipelines after the PS3s launch. The daughter die on the Xenos GPU is for Anti-aliasing which is much more prominent on the Xbox 360 than the PS3. The PS3 does a terrible job with anti-aliasing making textures look less smooth as a result of slightly jagged edges Questions?
@iamgig9876 The PS3 has 22.4 GB/s of GDDR3 bandwidth and 25.6 GB/s of RDRAM bandwidth for a total system bandwidth of 48 GB/s. The Xbox 360 has 22.4 GB/s of GDDR3 bandwidth and a 256 GB/s of EDRAM bandwidth for a total of 278.4 GB/s total system bandwidth.
@Fabbit02 Not quite that's just for some Call of Dutys that are ported from the xbox to PS3, cus look Red Dead Redemtion GTA4 LA noire. It just depends on the developer, DICE ports Battlefield from PC so in this case the 2 look EXACTLY the same
@wwfww when the consoles where released 6 years ago you could buy a 8800gt which had twice the gpu power of a ps3/xbox360. Today in 2011 that graphics cards is still twice as powerful and still performs twice as well.(you can buy one for about £60 btw) People only upgrade them every once in a while because they want to lol
lets make metaphors. Running 100 cars down a 6 lane driveway to the same destination will result in less cars reaching the destination as opposed to running 100 cars down an 8 lane driveway.
@iamgig9876 Sony wanted the cell processor to handle graphics but at the last minute, they realized that the processors too weak for that so they chose some random Nvidia meant for PC. Microsoft designed the processor with gaming in mind and built it with ATI from the ground up, Sony admitted the GPU is crappier than the Xbox's GPU
Will Zhang Yet developers learnt and optimized their games to run on that inferior GPU and actually look better than any game x360 had. Uncharted 3, GoW, TLoU etc..
@wwfww PCs don't age any quicker than consoles. That may have been the case 7 years ago, but if you get a decent PC today, you're good for a few years.
@iamgig9876 The PS3 utilizes 8 SPE cells while the Xbox uses a processor with 3 cores of 3.2GHz each. Barely any crossplatform game is developed with the PS3 specifically in mind (like BF3 did with the PC). Most games are developed for the Xbox 360 then ported to the PS3 as the Xbox utilizes a very similar processor architecture to the PC. In porting down, the PS3 would only use about 4 of the available SPEs restricting the ability to run at full power. PS3 will beat the Xbox in Exclusives only
@iamgig9876 no one can ever tell if the Cell processor actually handles AA but in games, you can see that the Xbox does a better job with AA. The processor would be working on whatever it has to work on, it wont produce the same results as the daughter die in the Xenos GPU
Bad company 2 seems to run a lot smoother than BF3. Movement in BF3 just feels like everything is laggy and choppy. I thought it might be the frame rate but they seem to both be 30 fps. Maybe its just the design, ot increased server lag. BC2 is a better game as well, they ruined bf3 hardcore by putting in a minimap amongst many other things.
@wwfww 2000 bucks to run the game properly? no way dude, with a pc like that you would be able to run future games with no problem. is more of a 500-800 bucks to run today games on good and average fps. which is around 40 to 50 fps and sometimes a lil higher with the settings on high and vsync and AA off. so why 2000 bucks???
@iamgig9876 come on, go into technicals. Your damn comments are so hard to read... Use capitalization please. The Xbox Xenos GPU allows more bandwidth for it utilizes Unified pipelines which in turn increases the framerate. Your processor isnt better on cross platform games as no crossplatform game will ever use the full processor, only 4 out of the 8 available SPEs at MOST.
This game is so much better than bf3, its sad because its looks like they didnt even try compared to this they just figured if they drown you in guns everythings o.k. :(
Oh... CUDA... so your processor does the work your GPU cant... great... Truth be told, the processor has enough work and isnt meant to process graphics data in the first place, results will be pretty inferior. Microsoft was smart in reserving a die for the Xbox to process AA on its own
and lets also contradict ourselves. the PS3 has 10mb of ram? last time I checked it had 512MB of ram The Xbox has 512MB of ram? Last time I checked the Xbox has 512MB of RAM... Oh wait...
@stephos21 and how does this say i am a fanboy? just writing what i think or thought makes me a fanboy people that reply fanboy shit are just plain annoying to me so dont call me a fanboy because i did not say which was better so you just wasted time replying to me. :)
diference between two systems? ps3 better proccesor, xbox bit better grphic card, about ports they do the same and the ps3 doesnt use all his power not like in exclusive games like killzone 3,etc . for me? its the fucking same 5 ,6,7 fps its not a big deal i just enjoy in my 42 pug HD plying in console xD, way better than pc i like controllers no mouse and keyboard lol. and too the graphics are better just cause of colors i mean directx11 anti aliasin,it just look cleaner not better textured
@coolcar100 Lol, you say Call of Duty is in it for the money. So it Battlefield. And the PS3 has stupid architecture. Not fanboying, it just does. The difference in power between the PS3 and Xbox is so small, yet the PS3 is about 100x more difficult to write a game for.
I'm being very honest...like seriously I know this isn't a graphics comparison..but the ps3 version looks waaaay better than the xbox version just saying..
@iamgig9876 thatd be stupid, no one would want an upscaled picture. The damned thing would look blurry, run at native or its upscaled 720p... No one upscales games just cuz they can, looks so so bad.
+Mateusz Wojtkiewicz dude when I bought this game for my old PC I was playing this game at THE lowest settings with sub 30 fps and it looked worse. This was a PC with a 9600 and a core 2 duo.
lol obviously will look better on ps3 because they dont do crappy ports like treyards infitiwrd does , like call of duty , the really difference its that call of duty its represented by xbox , the xbox 360 isnt the best system , if we are tlking bout systems then the pc will represent call of duty series but no , anyways this will end when call of duty mw3 comes , and really guys stop comparing obviusly the ps3 will have better permf cause of the proccesor and maybe better grafics just look spec
I remember playing this when it came out and shitting bricks at how amazing the graphics were.
I am impressed how they can actually make BOTH versions run like rarely below 30 fps. It just shows how they're not being lazy, porting and recycling engines like activision does with call of duty, but instead, doing your best to make both version enjoyable.
@iamgig9876 by bandwidth, I was referring to the 48 unified pipelines vs 8 + 24 pipelines on the PS3
bad company 2 on ps3 was the funnest ive ever had with the game because it was social, could sit around with mates smoking cones and doing rails drinking beer and throw the controller round
Running 100 cars down a 2 lane sand drive way and then a 4 lane asphalt driveway 100meters apart all diverging at some point to meet at a certain point results in less cars reaching the destination as opposed to running 100 cars down a 10 lane driveway going straight to a point.
How is the screen tearing when the game is at 30 fps? I don't understand that
@iamgig9876 now read the part where it says its useless in practice and only has potential?
@core6198 but don't forget that the developers don't make the games for a specific pc configuration, so they will always develop their games according to the top hardware specifications for the pc. And the consoles are made only for gaming so the games will run more or less well. In a very short period of time, a pc can get old.
@core6198 yeah i know what you mean,but for example, to run bad company 2 on pc,you dont really need a 2000 bucks computer,any decnt gaming pc could run it on max settings with no problem, except that a better pc could run it with more fps.but even if you had 2 gtx 560 cards(one of the most powerful cards right now)the graphics would of still look the same than a single card cause every game had its top limit and like i said, this game doesnt require that much.
İ've played BC2 and BF 3 in 2023. İ can say, if frame rate is important for you, you need to play BC2. İt has perfect frame rate. On the other hand, BF 3 has optimized but low fps. But still has realistic game mechanics and graphics. Both of them enjoyable and my favorite BF games for PS3
@iamgig9876 The Xbox 360 has a GPU which utilizes 48 Unified shader for higher framerates pipelines whereas the PS3 utilizes 8 vertex pipelines and 24 pixel pipelines. Nvidia (which builds the PS3 GPU) switched to unified pipelines after the PS3s launch.
The daughter die on the Xenos GPU is for Anti-aliasing which is much more prominent on the Xbox 360 than the PS3. The PS3 does a terrible job with anti-aliasing making textures look less smooth as a result of slightly jagged edges
Questions?
@appelhoofdLOLZ I played the game 5 times, and I never saw any problem with the textures in 1080p
@iamgig9876 how is that any better of a thread than mine?
@iamgig9876 The PS3 has 22.4 GB/s of GDDR3 bandwidth and 25.6 GB/s of RDRAM bandwidth for a total system bandwidth of 48 GB/s.
The Xbox 360 has 22.4 GB/s of GDDR3 bandwidth and a 256 GB/s of EDRAM bandwidth for a total of 278.4 GB/s total system bandwidth.
@Fabbit02 Not quite that's just for some Call of Dutys that are ported from the xbox to PS3, cus look Red Dead Redemtion GTA4 LA noire. It just depends on the developer, DICE ports Battlefield from PC so in this case the 2 look EXACTLY the same
@wwfww when the consoles where released 6 years ago you could buy a 8800gt which had twice the gpu power of a ps3/xbox360. Today in 2011 that graphics cards is still twice as powerful and still performs twice as well.(you can buy one for about £60 btw) People only upgrade them every once in a while because they want to lol
Optimization is really unbelievable.
lets make metaphors.
Running 100 cars down a 6 lane driveway to the same destination will result in less cars reaching the destination as opposed to running 100 cars down an 8 lane driveway.
@halowalker14 totally agree dude that's the way we roll!!
@Sickboiy27 it drops by 8 frames per second for one second =)
@doompop123 you could order one online.
@coolcar100 The difference in power is literally hardly anything. I'd be surprised if there was any visual difference between the PS3 and 360 version.
This game is very well optimized for both.
@iamgig9876 Sony wanted the cell processor to handle graphics but at the last minute, they realized that the processors too weak for that so they chose some random Nvidia meant for PC. Microsoft designed the processor with gaming in mind and built it with ATI from the ground up, Sony admitted the GPU is crappier than the Xbox's GPU
Will Zhang Yet developers learnt and optimized their games to run on that inferior GPU and actually look better than any game x360 had. Uncharted 3, GoW, TLoU etc..
@1234minhaj i dont see it ??
@iamgig9876 no, the 8 cells combined is, too bad only 4 gets used in multiplatform games
does xbox lag?
@wwfww PCs don't age any quicker than consoles. That may have been the case 7 years ago, but if you get a decent PC today, you're good for a few years.
@iamgig9876 The PS3 utilizes 8 SPE cells while the Xbox uses a processor with 3 cores of 3.2GHz each. Barely any crossplatform game is developed with the PS3 specifically in mind (like BF3 did with the PC). Most games are developed for the Xbox 360 then ported to the PS3 as the Xbox utilizes a very similar processor architecture to the PC. In porting down, the PS3 would only use about 4 of the available SPEs restricting the ability to run at full power.
PS3 will beat the Xbox in Exclusives only
I don't the see the difference in frame rate.
that fvo :(
@iamgig9876 no one can ever tell if the Cell processor actually handles AA but in games, you can see that the Xbox does a better job with AA. The processor would be working on whatever it has to work on, it wont produce the same results as the daughter die in the Xenos GPU
@applegameplayguy Maybe, the PS3 looks lot brighter than the xbox so ur kinda right
both looks awesome
Yep
@iamgig9876 the hell does that even say?
How can you do that you can see the frames?
Bad company 2 seems to run a lot smoother than BF3. Movement in BF3 just feels like everything is laggy and choppy. I thought it might be the frame rate but they seem to both be 30 fps. Maybe its just the design, ot increased server lag. BC2 is a better game as well, they ruined bf3 hardcore by putting in a minimap amongst many other things.
@PregnantFox yes and you may want to get a 2000$ pc to run the game properly, instead of a 300$ console.
@iamgig9876 thats 1000... cant be math?
thats 1GB... which ironically, it doesnt have.
Thy both nearly the same its just the ps3 has a tiny bit more of a graphic push but they both looked good wouldnt mind it on any
@wwfww 2000 bucks to run the game properly? no way dude, with a pc like that you would be able to run future games with no problem. is more of a 500-800 bucks to run today games on good and average fps. which is around 40 to 50 fps and sometimes a lil higher with the settings on high and vsync and AA off. so why 2000 bucks???
@iamgig9876 why would u do that, thats a stupid waste of time but even so, every technical aspect points to Xbox
OMG DF had this software to show FPS in consoles 11 years ago. And no one cared or analyized these things back in thatt ime.
@iamgig9876 come on, go into technicals. Your damn comments are so hard to read... Use capitalization please.
The Xbox Xenos GPU allows more bandwidth for it utilizes Unified pipelines which in turn increases the framerate. Your processor isnt better on cross platform games as no crossplatform game will ever use the full processor, only 4 out of the 8 available SPEs at MOST.
PS3 uses OpenGL while Xbox uses direct x 8 or the crappiest version of dx 9 (which was made in 2002)
Is screen tearing good?
This game is so much better than bf3, its sad because its looks like they didnt even try compared to this they just figured if they drown you in guns everythings o.k. :(
@iamgig9876 read the comments of those who voted for PS3. Sounds just like you...
destruction is better in Bad company 2 :)
@iamgig9876 Even so, the PC owns both consoles.
itssssss the same :D
lolwut? xbox don't used dx11
@iamgig9876 yes, lets mix our words up. My unicorn has a longer horn than yours; it also runs faster.
i thought the xbox version is better but now i see same fps cool
I'm an Xbox gamer, but onestly BC2 lock fucking better on PS3
At least make your comment somewhat readable then stop referencing Wikis
Oh... CUDA... so your processor does the work your GPU cant... great... Truth be told, the processor has enough work and isnt meant to process graphics data in the first place, results will be pretty inferior. Microsoft was smart in reserving a die for the Xbox to process AA on its own
I like this game better than BF3.
and lets also contradict ourselves.
the PS3 has 10mb of ram? last time I checked it had 512MB of ram
The Xbox has 512MB of ram? Last time I checked the Xbox has 512MB of RAM... Oh wait...
@stephos21 and how does this say i am a fanboy? just writing what i think or thought makes me a fanboy people that reply fanboy shit are just plain annoying to me so dont call me a fanboy because i did not say which was better so you just wasted time replying to me. :)
diference between two systems? ps3 better proccesor, xbox bit better grphic card, about ports they do the same and the ps3 doesnt use all his power not like in exclusive games like killzone 3,etc . for me? its the fucking same 5 ,6,7 fps its not a big deal i just enjoy in my 42 pug HD plying in console xD, way better than pc i like controllers no mouse and keyboard lol. and too the graphics are better just cause of colors i mean directx11 anti aliasin,it just look cleaner not better textured
Same shit for me :S
@coolcar100 Lol, you say Call of Duty is in it for the money. So it Battlefield. And the PS3 has stupid architecture. Not fanboying, it just does. The difference in power between the PS3 and Xbox is so small, yet the PS3 is about 100x more difficult to write a game for.
yeah, bfbc2 is the best battlefield ever
it really is
NFKRZ wtffff
вот здесь тебя, Рома, я точно не ожидал увидеть) (и что ты шаришь за лучшую батлу)
I'm being very honest...like seriously I know this isn't a graphics comparison..but the ps3 version looks waaaay better than the xbox version just saying..
Ps3 better for me
Damn 30fps
@element271 u mad bro :)
@MegadrixfireZ ahaah mad?
@96stewie96 hahahahahaha are u serious,fanboy?
Ps3
@iamgig9876 You type like you're 5
ps3 all the way!
@iamgig9876 u fked up ur link too much, nonexistant
@iamgig9876 and learn to spell and type, damn it.
@eaglegaming and xbox version is better, better textures, better colors and better black leves
@iamgig9876 thatd be stupid, no one would want an upscaled picture. The damned thing would look blurry, run at native or its upscaled 720p...
No one upscales games just cuz they can, looks so so bad.
Oh fuck. I did not know BFBC2 looks THIS bad on consoles.
It's same on pc..
MaxIndieGames no it isn't?!
Just built my pc today and by no means does it perform the same.
MaxAero same in PC ? hahaha yes yes.. it's look horrible in consoles very very horrible..
+Mateusz Wojtkiewicz dude when I bought this game for my old PC I was playing this game at THE lowest settings with sub 30 fps and it looked worse. This was a PC with a 9600 and a core 2 duo.
lol no noobs pc with 8x aa and eye finity is better
lol obviously will look better on ps3 because they dont do crappy ports like treyards infitiwrd does , like call of duty , the really difference its that call of duty its represented by xbox , the xbox 360 isnt the best system , if we are tlking bout systems then the pc will represent call of duty series but no , anyways this will end when call of duty mw3 comes , and really guys stop comparing obviusly the ps3 will have better permf cause of the proccesor and maybe better grafics just look spec
pc is better than xbox
Win ps3