Horizon Hobby - F-16 Thunderbirds - 80mm - Maiden Flights + Near Miss & Repair
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2022
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Literally watching this while driving in a light snowstorm in Jersey lol and I appreciate the time that you AND the 'camera crew' put in, vid after vid, rc after rc. I've been a short time subscriber and have since purchased a couple edf's from HH (w/o using any links). I'm saving this video to use your link to purchase this f16, for sure, when I'm ready-most likely right before summer hits. You guys are awesome...keep up the great work!
Brian, I came just to check out the plane and I ended up with a well of information that will save me from wrecking a few planes. . Luckily I dont have to fly with an eagle killing zone. I would not last two minutes in your field. You are a professional flyer hands down. Camera crew is the secret sauce to enjoying the videos without a headache.
Thanks Oliver!!!
Brian, thank you for these lovely videos, I love watching them at work! keep them coming please!
I'm humbled that you're still watching, and yes, with your lengthy builds, I can see you being one of a few select who may actually watch the WHOLE thing ;) LOL
Thanks for being a long time supporter, and for your help getting us off the ground!!! We'll be eternally grateful for your kindness Ramy!
"Oooooh Yeaaaaaahh" Lol! You've gotta stop watching the Patrincic Brothers. Beautiful finish on that F-16. Instead of leaving it white foam, they painted it, and it doesn't even look like foam. Great flyin' Brian!
Love the troubleshooting. Thanks Brian. Great work.
Thanks! We still need to revisit this beauty! Love this 80mm F-16 platform, and I feel like we could squeeze a lot more out of her now, since we've learned a lot over the last few years, especially around the area of AS3X and SAFE.
The field was finally dry enough for me to take mine out today
it truly is a beast
The bit at the end could be a video by itself about diagnosis of servo issues. I like the fact you show the problems too, not just the maiden.
Excellent video. Great servoectomy Dr. Phillips. Man I’m glad that turned out like it did. Could have been disastrous. Now we will need a second thought flight video after that repair. Well done guys. Sweet jet.
I love the honesty you always bring. I’m the same skill level you’re at and I CAN fly stuff like this but it’s work. I like to fly relaxed and have the ability to STOL so there would be a lot of other planes I’d rather have before this one but what a BEAST she is on 6s. I’ve bought the T-28 1.2 and P-51 1.2 because of your videos. Keep ‘em coming!!
This was nan outstanding video on trouble shooting ! Appreciate what you do !
Thanks! We're glad it was helpful for you!
I hope that it will be my next plane! I have learned so much from your stuff. I am 64 and been in RC cards and boats and just got back to planes. The new tech is awesome!
Oh man what a beautiful jet!! And I hear ya on setting the AS3X gains! It’s tough finding the right gain number, but great video! I think watching your landings is awesome, because you talk through it and give great pointers on what the jet or plane does as your coming in to land. So keep doing the landings :)
I enjoyed this one. Thanks guys!!
Thanks BRIAN,,,, your super,,, in trouble shooting also,,, I did NOT expect them to put extra connectors in that were between other connectors,,, ie the wing,,,, I rather have to connect a connector myself to a wing, then just slide it in, then have ANOTHER one hidden in the wing, as this one did,,, I thank you for showing me how these are assembled, AND that a tester can show current draw under load on a servo tester,,, I shall buy a new one also,,,, Well, the LESS connections, things in the control circuits the BETTER I SAY!!!! Less to go WRONG, FAIL!!!!! Oh, that the misses, camera crew, she is great,,,,
If you want the Afterburner Ring, here's the link Afterburner Ring bit.ly/3DHPbwU , but just keep in mind, we didn't have the channel to control it on our Rx...so when you watch future videos, if we can figure out how to use it without giving up something we want more, we'll share.
Terrific troubleshooting. This is why I watch.
And I'm gonna have to pick up one of these. This is the exact airforce jet I got to ride in with a airforce Thunderbird pilot who needed to go up and get his hours in when I was 14. This plane looks like a really good adrenaline rush wide open crazzy fast adrenaline flying
Another great video Brian!!!!
Thanks Jeff!
Awesome educational video Brian. You taught us a lot today! Glad you caught that loose connector and avoided possible trouble. I'm going to skip the tailerons. I think flaperons will do well. Looking forward to the next videos, maybe this repair will fix the wobble.
You both do a great job...thanks for keeping real ; )
She’s a beauty, great flying as always!
Thanks!
cool flight and awesome information
Brain thank you for helping me on the road to addiction! Love your videos even though most are way above my skill level.
Excellent video, as usual!
Thanks!
Well done finding the issue. I appreciate thatvlevel of detail in your videos. I think that my eyes would dictate the other color scheme which this video helped me confirm. Thank you for that.
awesome troubleshooting!
Wow, thank you guys.
Thanks!
Beautiful plane, you have good taste in planes brother.
That's cool
thanks!
I fly one of these and it lands at crawling speed lol. Its a very easy jet for anyone with edf experience. Balance and setup is critical. Also dont set flaperons setup spoilerons. You want to raise the ailerons on the model creating a washout in the wingtips
I admittedly had a hard time with this one, since we had a PD sample that was setup all weird, and we didn't have great luck getting it all configured. Hope we haven't soured your thoughts of this plane.
Very cool!
Thanks!
Awesome guys
Thanks!
I have played around with the gains isolating each axis. As a start change the yaw gain to the same as roll. A high gain on yaw axis can cause the waggle. The pitch axis seems to be the least sensitive. Great trouble shooting
Man I love tailerons on my jet.it’s not needed but so much fun!
I have my tailerons on a switch.
Great video! The scheme drew me to it, so I don't want missiles. I have the 70mm and love it, in fact I'm on my 3rd one 🤣. When I saw the grey version I said if they ever did it in the Thunderbird scheme, I'd have to get it. Well, I ordered it last night, then found your videos. You always have good info on how to set the planes up and a good idea of what to expect in the air. I appreciate the time you take to do these, please keep it up. Thanks
That sounds insane
Grease those landings, way to preach the hobby Brian. I have wonderful wall art waiting on their maiden. Practice makes perfect i beat my rebel up and seems to fly better or i might be getting better.
That is Killer!!!
Good work fixing, Appreciate the trouble shooting
very very nice
Thanks a lot
I love your videos! I used your website to buy the Arrows Corsair!! 😊
You are awesome bro.
Thanks for the video! I’m
Setting mine up right now, I watched your other f-16 and saw the elevators needed quite a bit of adjustment to get to that 20mm mark. I’m in that same situation with my thunderbird now... Any input?
I wish you would have set it up by the book. I think you caused more problems than you solved with all the mixing. Beautiful plane and great flying.
we didn't have a book.
@@BrianPhillipsRC ohhh so you had to wing it. Haha. I haven’t seen anyone else get that wing shuttering so it had to be the setup. Good work though
This is simply a GREAT plane. Have one. No changes on setup and flies great. BUT, dont fly off grass. On takeoff the front wheel collapsed. Its a pavement only. I have just fixed it as has to replace front gear. The single screw that holds it to the retract broke and caused me a few hours work to replace. Love the scale way it flies. Amazing. Thanks for review.
Question: u seem to have much more turn authority on the ground than mine. Did u change anything?
You would need to watch our Unbox, Build, and Radio Setup video and compare notes. I'm not sure how yours is setup, but ours was not setup the way we wanted it to be setup.....we got an early sample, but this particular sample had been goofed with a bunch, and we got this BEFORE the manual was printed...soooo we didn't maybe get it as good as we wanted it.
This is one of the only planes where I didn't feel like we got it right, as a result. We do things slightly different than the factory, on most planes...mostly rates and expo, but this one we really had to stretch to make it work...and we didn't get it as RIGHT as I wanted it...it DID work, but out of box, BNF would have been pretty good over ours.
We're about to unbox our NX10, and I wonder if this plane would be a GREAT one to debut it with??? I guess we'll have to take a bit and think that over...but thanks for planting the seed ;)
Please, would you can tell me, How you torn reverse the turbine?
Love this video, as always very informative. For this version, 80mm although it's more scale, the 70mm looks like much more fun and maneuverable to fly. My question, though since you like the Eflight 80mm Falcon, which do you prefer, the F-16 Thunderbirds 80mm or thew F-16 Falcon 80mm?
Nice jet ! Great flight 💪 can I use the rtf transmitter that comes with the habu to use on these BNF ? Would it still work the same ?
Do you think the "Camera crew" would approve of a carrier style catapult/landing platform setup off of the back deck? Talk about a TopGun experience 😂
It'd be like a fixed aircraft carrier that launches into the "bowl". Without hoofing it out to the road and watching for cars etc.
I mean, it's not like you don't have the jet stock to justify something as cool as that 👍
Hi Brian, do you have any idea why I can’t access AU4 on a DX9? Programmed tailerons on the BNF version, using a SW for the for reverse thrust. Used us all 8 channels but can’t work out why I can’t use the 9th? Cheers
You’ve now got an excuse to give camera crew to get your special tool now! Always get the switch tighten tool! 👍
Glad they painted the white. Not a fan of the bare foam on the 70mm. My june nite has those a330 mg servos and they have been great soo far. I was kinda bummed when I found out my a10 64mm has all plastic gear servos except those nose. A plane as expensive and awesome as the a10 should have metal geared servos imo.
Brian,
I fly a 70mm viper jet and an 80mm bae hawk. I just purchased this thunderbirds jet, I installed a spektrum 6 channel without safe. So I’m limited to either having flaperons or thrust reverse. Will this plane have to land much faster without flaps? Should I trade the reverse thrust for the flaperons? Is this jet going to be way different than those two airframes? Referring to stall speed, landing speed etc? I’m very good at flying the other two jets.
What gyro settings did you end up going with?
great video BUT(lol),would have loved to see the stock bnf version from the factory,again great job from both of you
Wow it must be a biggun,, first of your videos I've watched not filmed on your front driveway, great video folks. Do you ever fly at a local rc club?
Do you have any recommendations for getting any help from horizon customer support? I received a plane (not the same model as this video) with manufacturer's defects and they will not help. They're nearly completely unresponsive and will not call me after requesting phone calls at least 3 times.
Finally. I figured tailerons were gonna be too much roll. Probably why HH abandoned it.
How are flight times on 6200's? Usual 3.5 min?
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Awesome! Love the vids. I fly the f16 70 mm. I'm fairly comfortbale on the 70 would this be a good upgrade?
I have both too. This is much more scale flying. Wont alpha as high. Its heavier with higher wing loading. The 70 is fun to go crazy. 80 u need to fly a bit more scale. But oh boy, what a joy
@@wash-rc For sure! I actually just got the 80 three weeks ago and have been flying it! I love it!
how similar is this to the hobby zone F-16 Falcon 80mm?
Curious as I want to practice in realflight before I buy this, which only has that one
they almost seem like just different livery, but im not sure
Very similar, only adds the 8ch Rx and some other stuff we cover in the video.
@@BrianPhillipsRC thank you very much for the response
I've now liberated my local hobby shop of their one
cant wait to get it out to the field sometime soon
Brian I have had 2 of these nx8 both crap soon after receiving it won’t power on press the power button blinks 3 times nx has load of issues been down for weeks now
So you've had TWO that are bad??!?!! Why are you having so many problems? We've had an almost flawless experience.
@@BrianPhillipsRC yeah look at some RUclips videos prob have to stick with dx6e
@@BrianPhillipsRC they prob don’t want u reviewing nx 8 that don’t work made sure u got a good 1 I guess
There are Tailerons and there are elevons....... I don't think there is anything called a tailelevon..... but what do I know, LOVE your videos !
Stabilators
why not just use tailerons , forget the flaperons that way you keep the amount of elevator movement you like, just use flaps but perhaps only half flaps on landing may be enough ? 5000mah seems the way to go. Gyro on tailerons and rudder ? Will the main wing not be more stable on landing if you do not have flaperons? or was it just dancing around because of the duff wing servo connection.? No doubt the next flights will reveal all !!!
You know, if you didn’t have the roll control in the back with the “elevon” setup, that servo loss in the left wing would’ve been so much worse!
Not sure if 'Taileron' is an RC term?...but IRL they are called Elevons (Elevator/Aileron) and the model also used Flaperons - so Flaps/Ailerons. :)
It’s an elevon if it’s on the trailing edge of the wing, (delta wing). it’s a taileron if it’s on the tail (horizontal stabilizer) Both do pitch and roll but they have different names on different wing configurations.
Would you take this or the 80mm Rafale?? Which is a better all around jet?
This 100% hands down. I FAR prefer the F-16 over the Rafale, BUT I'm very bias. I watched F-16's flying around Des Moines, Iowa, since there was a squadron stationed here, and I loved seeing them. They've since been shipped off to another place :(....
As for the build quality, and overall rc amazingness - they're both good, but I think the F-16 is better, and more conventional flying plane. I enjoy flying it more. That's not to say the Rafale is a slouch, it's just different to fly...and not my cup of tea, as compared to one of my all time favorites ;)
Hope this helps!
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@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for answering I flew the F16 and its a fast bird, the Rafale, I have only flown the 64mm and was curious
Great flying Brian. That's a beautiful jet! Would love to see you do the high alpha with that thing.
Me too. I need to get some details sorted before I'll feel comfortable with it. Heck, I can hardly high alpha my 70mm!!!! It's a pilot skill and real-estate thing too ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC you could do it. You're a great pilot!!
I think I could see it, don't know if I could control it lol
I have the 70mm Thunderbird with no flaps. It lands easily in 1/2 of our 400' runway using a nose up landing. So I thought I would like a larger version. But after watching this video I am not so sure. From what I can see this 80mm does not have 'normal' flaps and it would need flaperons and / or reverse thrust in order to land on 400'.
This 80mm seems a bit complex and I prefer simple. Then there is the $600 cost - way more expensive than my 70mm.
I do lots of aerobatics with my 70mm - not so sure about this 80mm?
What do you think ?
70MM flies so good and easy because power to weight is much higher on 70MM. have both. 80MM much less forgiving. 80MM wins on looks!
@@oncemore7116 thanks, think I will stay with my 70mm
Haha, this plane is going to Brian Phillips so let's leave this connector loose and see if he crashes or fixes it. For $600 I expect more, and not just because of the loose connector.
You really need a big runway. Is that normal?
7000 mAh 6s. What C rating ?
Thanks for the info Brian. All the issues you had has made my mind not to get this plane.
Hi Brian, how do you think she'd do on grass? I don't have access to a hard surface but do like this bird 👍
She CAN land on grass, but I can't see her getting up to speed well, unless is SHORT and well kept grass. Gotta put her down slow as possible, and hit the mains on landing only....then plop her down gently
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks for that Brian 👍
Use the afterburner
I don't have enough channels as configured ;(
Beautiful Jet,But Doesn't look like an AMA flying field..🤣
Excellent video as always. Any chance of reviewing the FMS BAE HAWK 80MM 🙏
Get it. It's awesome. One of the best thrust to weight jets out there plus its quite cheap for an 80mm and has all the LED, decent gear, flaps etc
@@M4rkmcc21 have already but have yet to fly it.
@@Ziet1 I'm not sure Brian will review it as its a pretty old jet now. I'd have thought he'd have already done it by now. U should maiden it soon man. If uv flown the Futura its pretty much the same as that. Just more scale looking.
happy new year, another great review . I flew mine four or five times now and i find it to be lacking top speed in my opinion is under powered.
Why?? I have the old 80mm in the box still. lol.
I had it paused and I hit play again and it was right at the beginning of you saying I'm gonna get you addicted and my wife looked at me and listened for the whole 12 seconds of you saying the addicted to planes part she thought you meant drugs LMAO
This looks amazing but I'm upgrading from high wing prop plane . Ready for a jet , this or the Habu 3s ?
Did u actually put this in the same basket as a habu 3s?! 😆
You're a long way from an F16 dude...
The 70mm Habu is probably a good bet and as you progress it’s still a blast with a few light mods like carving out some foam for elevator travel and adjusting the linkages I get mine to do rolling harriers with the gear off on the stock power set up running 6s 3300 all the way back. I upgraded the edf to an x fly galaxy and it is even more fun over 1 to 1 thrust to weight. Flys like a trainer hard to stall easy to land.
I have the 70mm and don’t fly it because I can’t see it. This is the 80mm repopped as a Thunderbird. I LOVE the F-16 but I’ll pass. There are many Motion RC/Freewing/Flightline planes I’d rather have. Bitco Hobby has some awesome planes too I’d rather have first
So why waste ur time and watch the vid if u want a freewing plane?
@@M4rkmcc21 because nunya 😂🖕
Beautiful jet ,but way too fast for me 🥺👍
Too bad they didn't make it with a slightly larger wingspan. The takeoff and landings would be shorter. They should have moved the landing gear out more to make it more stable during ground roll.
Its scale and would look funny with larger wings and wider gear. Get a sport jet
Shame that you had to make mods out of the box. Not a cheap plane either
Why wouldn’t you put the AS3X gains onto a knob so you can adjust in flight to get rid of the oscillation?
I don’t know what to do?? I want to get the grey one, but this is a THUNDERBIRD?? Ughh, life is full of hard decisions!
This has a 8 channel receiver
@@joshuaburgess4730 But the question is: do I have an 8 channel transmitter? (No) I dunno, I have the 70mm Thunderbird, and I like the scheme, so an 80mm scale Thunderbird would be cool, but ugh, I like the look of the ordinance and the grey one!
@@aerospacematt9147 I just bought the grey one last month then they do this to me!? ( my 80mm thunderbird be here Monday hahaha) I have a nx10 so that's why I'm getting it.
@@joshuaburgess4730 I need to get an NX10 one of these days.
@@aerospacematt9147 horizonhobby has the easy pay option. Might help in getting one. I'm a elite member with horizonhobby so I can get a agent directly Monday thru Friday and free shipping on anything. Also 1000$ credit limit on easy pay instead of the 500$. ( yeah it stays maxed out almost)
Its a bad habit that all you yt pilots mean: "what 100% travel? my pro pilot skills need 5000% travel"
Let me guess they want 600$ for it
Too fast & squirrely for me...definitely not my cup of tea.
Make shorter videos so your views shoot up!youtube pumps shorter vids more
We agree this tactic would work, but we want to do right by our audience, and so much of them ask for the full length.
I think if we did short "entertainment" style videos, we'd just be copying what Horizon Hobby does - not that their stuff isn't good - IT IS - but we want to show when their planes DON'T work good too ;)
I want to start making some shorter content, but I would have to do voice overs for the content to make it any good, since I'm always blathering about things through the whole thing. I know some find it super annoying, but others really enjoy and need the support when they're newer pilots. It's hard to get help when you're new.
@@BrianPhillipsRC i love the long videos as well but i think most people dont have 1hr plus to watch through a video. I would think shorter videos would get more views but thats just my opinion either way im a big fan of the content since im just getting into the hobby and im trying to absorb as much knowledge as i can.