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Did you notice any difference between the lenses as far as the accuracy of the distance scale? It's always nice to have a reliable scale for zone focusing.
I own both in Nikon mount. The biggest limitation of the pancake version is the too long minimum focus distance. This is a function of the smaller barrel which does not allow the extension to get close. To be fair, Voightlander includes a small lens to put on the front to get closer but this is not convenient or practical in many situations. The newer, bigger lens has enough threaded extension in the barrel to allow good close up capability. Having both now, I ONLY use the newer larger lens for the ergonomics and close focusing.
Yes, I also prefer the new version because of the advantages you've mentionend - also, the SL-IIs looks a little bit cooler IMHO. Thanks for the comment!
Heck yeah man, the video we’ve all been waiting for but didn’t know it. Great stuff🤌🏼 was actually considering getting a copy of the new version and you just helped drive the nail in the coffin. Cheers 🍻
Is the one for 450 on eBay yours? :D I love the old pancake version. Got mine used from a dealer for 300 eur. What a steal. These are getting rare. It's perfect for my FM2. So small. But also very nice on the D810 or adapted to a Sony to get a more analog feel.
🤭 no it is not mine, I've removed it from ebay, it is on a dedicated camera sales forum right now (trying to save fees haha). And yes, you are absolutely right - they are getting rare and expensive! Could not agree more regarding the analog feel 😌
Thanks Thomas! After I got the 28mm and 90mm versions of this series, I am so pleased with them that I am considering to go for the 40mm as well. However I was not sure which version would make better sense. Thanks to you it is nicely compared and I am convinced to go for the newer version due to the availability of 3D metering and EXIF data. I am sure that you could pixel peep some IQ difference between the two lenses, but that does not matter much to me.
I have the 28mm as well and will do a test this year! (I'm also considering getting the 90mm) Great that you found liking to my video 📸 Allow me just a quick remark - both lenses are equally compatible with 3d metering as both have the CPU chip - however, I am a 100% on board with your decision to get the newer one! It is such a beautiful lens.
the compared lenses are identical, the only difference being the outer design and the closer focusing helicoid in the new one... I am surprised how someone could create a 16min long video on comparing 2 identical lenses :D
@@Zlaja192 Well, it was more like a product review and in fact step-by-step pointed out there was no visible difference in the image quality of the two lenses. Other differences there are in MFD, form factor, weight, handling and retro design.
@@zollieuncle9647 I know, yet its confusing to bring such a long comparison up, talking about two identical lenses. Folks that are indeed not familiar with these lenses will just get confused. There needs to be a quick and clear statement at the beginning, saying that these are optically identical lenses, as thats what matters the most. If someone goes ahead comparing them so thoroughly, it means that he himself is not briefed enough in order to produce videos about gear. Spoiler alert: the 28 and 58mm are also optically unchanged from their previous versions. But I am sure there is going to be a 30min long video about that ...
I bought the later version in late winter of 2021 - I'm very happy with it! I love the beautiful retro styling, the price was very reasonable for a quality article like this. This and a Samyang 35mm f1.4 have been used on the Nikon FM/FE/FM2n bodies and seem to register well. I won't be selling this Voigtlander 40mm f2 any time soon! Thanks for the review, very well put together!
Also, thanks for this comment! I have not tried Samyang lenses yet, so this is an interesting tip. I think there is definitely a market for F mount manual focus lenses, maybe even for a new f mount film camera 📸
can you also compare the current version of 28mm SLIIS vs SLIIN ? which version do you prefer ? New version focus extremely close , but also much bigger than the old one. I am considering buying which version for my nikon df and nikon F3, and I like small size lens balance well on camera and good ergonomics.
The good news: I have the new 28. The bad news: I don't have the old one. However, I plan on doing a comparison of the new 28 with the latest Nikon 28 AiS. My current assessment: get the new 28 - it is an impressive lens. I love mine and you won't be disappointed. It is not that big, esp. w/o the hood.
@@ThomasEisl.Photography thanks for your reply. Cant wait for your review on 28mm SLIIS vs AIS 28mm. I notice that SLIIS is still smaller than the famous AIS 28mm.
I'd go with the older one since having a 40mm f2 pancacke is really outsanding. For me the increase ins side is not justified, the size is what makes this lens so unique imo
Have both versions. I give my vote for the old version. Design of housing and materials are better. The new one has very soft metal and those sharp ribs lose black paint in no time after just normal use.
Ich hab eine Nikon FM2n near mint gekauft, wird in den nächsten Tagen kommen, das 40mm Voigtländer wird meine Linse werden. Voigtländer nutze ich schon an der Konica Hexar RF, auch mit 40mm, das ist eine tolle vielseitige Brennweite. lg BM
It is quite possible - and to me, the newer version also seemed to have a slight edge. However, I was hesitant to state that, as it could also be sample variance. Thanks for the comment!
@@ThomasEisl.Photography but you said or wrote old version on the left and new version on the right # so that was just my very subjektive impression regarding some structures ( on the bridge for instance ). Thanks anyway 😔👍
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If the differences between the two lenses is bordering on zero, it proves that Cosina's quality control is excellent.
Absolutely agree - they are virtually identical (except the close focus distance)
thank you for the video I think I like the older one, other just two big
Thanks for the preview, should receive the 58mm and this new 40mm SLIIs tomorrow!
Both excellent lenses! I love my 58mm even more than the 40mm TBH. Thank you for the comment!
Did you notice any difference between the lenses as far as the accuracy of the distance scale? It's always nice to have a reliable scale for zone focusing.
I own both in Nikon mount. The biggest limitation of the pancake version is the too long minimum focus distance. This is a function of the smaller barrel which does not allow the extension to get close. To be fair, Voightlander includes a small lens to put on the front to get closer but this is not convenient or practical in many situations.
The newer, bigger lens has enough threaded extension in the barrel to allow good close up capability.
Having both now, I ONLY use the newer larger lens for the ergonomics and close focusing.
Yes, I also prefer the new version because of the advantages you've mentionend - also, the SL-IIs looks a little bit cooler IMHO.
Thanks for the comment!
Can you use them with Nikon Zf? With or without adapter?
The new version looks at least three decades older than t(e old version! Great comparison 😊👍 thank you 🙏
True!
Thank you for your kind words!
Heck yeah man, the video we’ve all been waiting for but didn’t know it. Great stuff🤌🏼 was actually considering getting a copy of the new version and you just helped drive the nail in the coffin. Cheers 🍻
Thank you!
Glad that I pushed you over the edge, you will love it 🙂
Is the one for 450 on eBay yours? :D
I love the old pancake version. Got mine used from a dealer for 300 eur. What a steal. These are getting rare. It's perfect for my FM2. So small. But also very nice on the D810 or adapted to a Sony to get a more analog feel.
🤭 no it is not mine, I've removed it from ebay, it is on a dedicated camera sales forum right now (trying to save fees haha). And yes, you are absolutely right - they are getting rare and expensive! Could not agree more regarding the analog feel 😌
What app are you using to compare the images? The synchronized zoom/pan looks very useful.
In this video, I've used ON1, I think - but almost any RAW converter can be used e.g. OM Workspace, Nikon NX Studio and so on.
Love the Voigtlander SL-II N 40mm f/2 and 58mm f/1.4!
Same same! Will do a review of the 58 at some point, it is a fantastic lens!
Nikon Df + Voigt 58 shooting b/w… heavenly!
Thanks Thomas! After I got the 28mm and 90mm versions of this series, I am so pleased with them that I am considering to go for the 40mm as well. However I was not sure which version would make better sense. Thanks to you it is nicely compared and I am convinced to go for the newer version due to the availability of 3D metering and EXIF data. I am sure that you could pixel peep some IQ difference between the two lenses, but that does not matter much to me.
I have the 28mm as well and will do a test this year! (I'm also considering getting the 90mm)
Great that you found liking to my video 📸
Allow me just a quick remark - both lenses are equally compatible with 3d metering as both have the CPU chip - however, I am a 100% on board with your decision to get the newer one! It is such a beautiful lens.
the compared lenses are identical, the only difference being the outer design and the closer focusing helicoid in the new one... I am surprised how someone could create a 16min long video on comparing 2 identical lenses :D
@@Zlaja192 Well, it was more like a product review and in fact step-by-step pointed out there was no visible difference in the image quality of the two lenses. Other differences there are in MFD, form factor, weight, handling and retro design.
@@zollieuncle9647 I know, yet its confusing to bring such a long comparison up, talking about two identical lenses. Folks that are indeed not familiar with these lenses will just get confused. There needs to be a quick and clear statement at the beginning, saying that these are optically identical lenses, as thats what matters the most.
If someone goes ahead comparing them so thoroughly, it means that he himself is not briefed enough in order to produce videos about gear.
Spoiler alert: the 28 and 58mm are also optically unchanged from their previous versions. But I am sure there is going to be a 30min long video about that ...
I bought the later version in late winter of 2021 - I'm very happy with it!
I love the beautiful retro styling, the price was very reasonable for a quality article like this. This and a Samyang 35mm f1.4 have been used on the Nikon FM/FE/FM2n bodies and seem to register well. I won't be selling this Voigtlander 40mm f2 any time soon!
Thanks for the review, very well put together!
Also, thanks for this comment! I have not tried Samyang lenses yet, so this is an interesting tip.
I think there is definitely a market for F mount manual focus lenses, maybe even for a new f mount film camera 📸
can you also compare the current version of 28mm SLIIS vs SLIIN ? which version do you prefer ? New version focus extremely close , but also much bigger than the old one. I am considering buying which version for my nikon df and nikon F3, and I like small size lens balance well on camera and good ergonomics.
The good news: I have the new 28. The bad news: I don't have the old one.
However, I plan on doing a comparison of the new 28 with the latest Nikon 28 AiS.
My current assessment: get the new 28 - it is an impressive lens. I love mine and you won't be disappointed. It is not that big, esp. w/o the hood.
@@ThomasEisl.Photography thanks for your reply. Cant wait for your review on 28mm SLIIS vs AIS 28mm. I notice that SLIIS is still smaller than the famous AIS 28mm.
Just wanted to let you know that I've published the 28mm Voigtländer review right now ☺️
@@ThomasEisl.Photography wow, thank you, cant wait to see the video.
Great vid thanks bro
Welcome! 💪
I'd go with the older one since having a 40mm f2 pancacke is really outsanding. For me the increase ins side is not justified, the size is what makes this lens so unique imo
Yes!
that's the first version and the third version. I like the second version the best
You mean the one with the yellow lettering and slight ridge and valley focus ring?
Vielen Dank !!
Sehr gerne. 📸
Have both versions. I give my vote for the old version. Design of housing and materials are better. The new one has very soft metal and those sharp ribs lose black paint in no time after just normal use.
Thanks for sharing that - very valuable for potential buyers!
Ich hab eine Nikon FM2n near mint gekauft, wird in den nächsten Tagen kommen, das 40mm Voigtländer wird meine Linse werden. Voigtländer nutze ich schon an der Konica Hexar RF, auch mit 40mm, das ist eine tolle vielseitige Brennweite. lg BM
Super! Die FM2N ist eine tolle Wahl und die Kombination mit dem 40er ist stylish aber auch optisch leistungsfähig! Danke fürs teilen!
for me old version looks a bit less sharp at 5m distance and the new one a bit less sharp at infinity - wide open to 2.8
It is quite possible - and to me, the newer version also seemed to have a slight edge. However, I was hesitant to state that, as it could also be sample variance.
Thanks for the comment!
@@ThomasEisl.Photography but you said or wrote old version on the left and new version on the right # so that was just my very subjektive impression regarding some structures ( on the bridge for instance ). Thanks anyway 😔👍
I've owned both and the SLIIS has better bokeh and sharpness IMHO
Very interesting! Than you for sharing that!
I really love the first version but i always see things just about the second one, it's just uncanny because i really didn't liked the redesign
Yes, there is a point to be made for both designs, right!
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The new one looks pretty much like the Nikon Pre-AI Auto lens.
Yes, that's pretty cool design I'd say!
I like the smaller version. It's really a pancake. But sad there are no bunny ears for my Nikon F2sb or FT2.
Yes, design-wise, they are totally different lenses, although optically basically the same.
The newer one looks a tad more colour-saturated than the older lens.
Yes, quite possible! Could be new coatings.
I think your definition of sharp is a little exaggerated.. They both seemed a little soft to me up until about f4
Well, "sufficient sharpness" is a very subjective assessment - be that as it may, the lenses are for sure considerably sharper at f/4!