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From a rescue efficiency perspective, this is a complete fiasco --- but from the content perspective... EXCELLENT :D
Fiasco sg
hould be his company name...lol....this is a usual rescue attempt for these guys...lol
Well at least the songs were pretty decent
Wheres your recovery business if you're so much better than everyone at it😂😂
Tom’s preparedness and foresight is refreshing. If he had packed a spare cam sensor he would have unlocked legend status.
Good choice in gear too, love my Smith goggles though they're the MTB variety.
Factual statement 😂
@@tenfriskydingos same, smith xl, they got my Troy lee helmet perfect too 🤘
Nah, if he packed the cam sensor he wouldn’t have been able to snow shoe 😉
And a new head gasket for the customer. Ahem. 😎
This will probably get buried in the comments but here it is anyways.
Input sensors like the cam and crank are very sensitive to interference. The two biggest causes of interference on a motor are the alternator and ignition systems. Make sure the cam/crank wiring is routed away from the ignition coils, alternator, and associated wiring. And make sure the cam and crank sensor are mounted as far away from the coils and alternator as possible.
You mentioned that some tin foil helped. Instead of tin foil which can ground out on contact throughout the engine bay, use a different type of shielding for the harness that is insulated. Make sure it is only grounded at one end, ideally at the main ECU ground to prevent “ground looping”.
I hope this makes sense and is helpful, love the channel 🤙🏼
Solid advice. Hope they see it!
Didn't get buried. Got top billing.
EMF wire looms
The bombi is like a 1980's RC car:
_"Forward, reverse, turns in reverse!"_
😅
oohhh that brings back memories...
This wouldn’t be as fun if there weren’t problems everywhere 😂. The teamwork between Matt and Robby is what I respect
Moe, Larry and Curly had great teamwork too. I really enjoy MORR but this was a Debacle. 😂😂😂
I appreciate what a good time they had during this dumpster fire.
U know Matt that if u didn’t talk crap about Robby’s yours would’ve worked fine… lol 😮
Hey Matt...quick note...when driving in Alaska, and the same symptoms occur on our truck as well as the Bobbi, we put a product called "Heet" in the tank to dry out the fuel. Something about water in the fuel that gets in from condensation, messes up the sensors and eventually stall the vehicle.
Traveling between drastic temperatures is an actual issue. If your unit is spending time above zero (because Celcius), and you see below freezing in your future, gas line antifreeze is your friend. Sounds like drag-strip fuel, but dumping alcohol into the tank is just basic. Alcohol attracts water, and remains flammable. Moisture in the fuel system crystallizes and blocks the filters.
Seafoam is amazing for so many things
We always referred to Heet as “Dry Gas”
If your gas is 10% ethanol, any of the Heet alcohol gas line antifreeze products are a complete waste of money.
If your fuel has ethanol in it, like most fuels do, moisture in your fuel is NOT the problem. Ethanol does the same thing as "Heet", aka methyl hydrate, aka "gas-line antifreeze". It bonds to any water in your fuel and prevents it from freezing. Because pretty much all gasoline has ethanol in it, fuel icing is no longer a modern problem.
The laughter level goes off the charts when Matt and Robby get together. 😅
As someone who cooks for a living, I cant tell you how much they appreciated you doing that. So many people will come in with no regard for us at all. Thank You!!!
with a name like that, no wonder!
"counterintelligence is finding none" 😂😂 ... Witty! 👍
Right? The best quote from the whole video.
It always amazes me when you don't fix major known problems before taking xyz vehicle out for another recovery. Definitely makes for great entertainment!
Stupid is as stupid does.
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these guys are very much of the "it works well enough, we will just struggle through", probably comes from their days in demo derby.
the different jobs may not be as long apart from eachother as the videos are because of editing and releasing on a schedule for the algorithem.
NO Mensa candidates on this show..@@user-kp6zf7pu6q
@ecot29 We don't know the exact timeline that they are doing these recoveries, these past few Bombi videos all could have happened within a couple days of each other. If they couldn't figure out the issue with the small amount of time they had between recoveries but they needed the Bombi for a "deep snow" recovery, like the customer said it was, then they have to work with what they got.
My 79 year old mum watched this for the first time .... She laughed and laughed. She enjoyed the banter!!! Thanks 😂❤
A hydrostatic turning dual-differential setup would be the way to go.
The tracks would be locked with no steering input and you'd have complete control of both track speeds for turning without fighting the brakes.
Its what military tanks have been using for coming up on a century.
Most efficient AND controlled way to use tracks
This makes sense. I was surprised to learn the Bombi uses braking alone for steering.
There must be some kind of skid steer drivetrain or similar the Bombi could be converted to.
Maybe Matt needs to talk to ex-military Tank Mechanics.
The bombi exists the way it does because it's cheap and when done right is very effective for small light vehicles. Hydrostatic drives are 4 or 5 times more expensive.
The fact the brake caliper snapped off means there has been no true engineering done to calculate anything on this vehicle. Not great when it is the rescue vehicle.
@@benfulton1265yeah they used an off the shelf kit that would generally be used for cars without much additional reinforcement. Would have fractured it with all the driving they were doing previously where it wasn't turning due to the tracks not being set up right... Wonder what the lateral traction bars were for and if it will just slide off the road now... 😏
30:57 I'm sure glad MATT has provided an "Emotional Support Tom" to the recovery CREW!! Great Job everyone involved!! What an adventure!!
Dude was an operator. He was gonna finish the mission, what a team player.
Tom's probably tired of 1/2 finished projects... Remember, Tom is some kind of Genuis astro phycisist or something and he's dealing with red neck engineering..
Ditch the drive train. Hydrostatic is the only way to go. Also be well worth adding a we blade to it as a winching anchor or for generally shifting snow.
Honestly a hydro system will make you life so much easier and more controlled. No just set the engine revs and massive torque and mm perfect control. What you have there is a lovely machine with a disaster or a transmission.
I worked for the UK government in Antarctic tractor train traverse and we used big plastic sheets as sledges. Look up how people move fuel in Antarctica. Messing about dragging and often breaking vehicles in deep snow is just folly. Burry the plastic, drag the vehicle on, then strap it down, drive off pulling the sled. If you need to go work hill just drag and anchor behind you. It’s safer and way nicer to your machines. The tools needed are also light weight and portable. You could modify it for your needs no bother.
I agree, hydrostatic is a sure fire method of moving heavy and slow loads.
But we will miss Chewie 😮💨
We use similar sleds for heavy hauling behind snowmobiles here in Alaska, and I've see really nice ones out of Canada. Much smaller versions of course!
How do you slow a sled reliably, down mountain passes?
its a pos to begin with, nothing square, would have been better off buying something new and modifying it. They are way over budget for something that has yet to actually prove its worth, even before they did all the useless work to it.
Love Tom's dry sense of humor! He always makes us laugh 😃 thanks Tom!
Hope you guys see this. By no means is this criticism, you guys are great, nothing but respect. Just some advice for the term x system on the bombi.
1. The term x can also be run in batch fire (no cam needed). You will need to modify ignition parameters to do so. I recommend you upload a version of your current tune to the 3.5" handheld with a (no cam sensor) designation. Usually you'll need a little more idle fuel, but closed loop will take care of the difference.
2. I don't know if you guys figured out why it wouldn't go into closed loop the other day, but many times it is either EMI interfering with the TPS RoC or MAP RoC acceleration enrichment triggering your "pumpshot" which puts the ecu in open loop. The enrichment values and VE table can also be so far off that when it triggers the accel enrichment, it temporarily runs better (it needed fuel and got it) or worse (it was running fine, got too much fuel). Either of those situations can cause a change to vaccuum fast enough that it exceeds MAP RoC blanking and gets you in a never ending loop.
3. The term x systems are not as reliable as a stock ECU, I would keep a spare on hand with a get home tune preloaded. They have a higher than normal failure rate for stuff like injector drivers and o2 sensor drivers. If you lose an injector, you'll still get home, but if the o2 driver fails and you have tightened down the learn and closed loop tables yet, you'll be in trouble when it happens. You'll have to clear the learn tables and disable o2 feedback. I find it is simpler to just preload a tune that has the o2 sensor feedback disabled once you have your ve table within +/- 5% accuracy when warm. To be safe, I would add 10% fuel to the entire VE table.
Can't wait to see what's up with the axle on the bombi and what you're going to do next
I know some of these words.😂
OK, fly this guy to Hurricane Utah for a weekend to get the Bombi fixed. This is some expertise talking.
Well that was all Greek to me.
@@brianhaygood183 Find out his favorite meal too.
I was planning on Terminator X Stealth for my 496 build. I thought it was more reliable than Sniper.
The Bombi has a control authority problem. Tracked vehicles have a ratio of track width to wheelbase which allows them to steer correctly... If you end up with a ratio much over about 1.5 or so you'll end up not being able to steer effectively. The reason is that you develop steering torque based on your vehicle track width, and you develop track stability based on your ground contact length (wheelbase, effectively).
It needs to either be wider or shorter :)
Oh, and if you want a good drive option, have a think about electric drive... You can get a 100kW electric motor for about $7k... One of those per side would make the Bombi pretty hilarious... One CAN throttle per track and it'll stick steer faster and slower :) Chuck a generator in there instead of an engine and have some fun :)
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@@drew79s Could the engine be used as the generator?
not efficiently@@Royaleah
@@Royaleah sure, you just connect another electric motor to it 🙂
I mean it would sound a lot nicer than just buying a 30kVA gen set, but it would also be more expensive and less efficient... 🤣
I guess my life is boring because I get such a kick out of watching you and your team (friends). You love your crew and they obviously love you. This episode was such a hoot!
The fact that you guys get in to much trouble and maintain your cool and team spirit is very rare! God bless the whole the team!
To avoid fuel lines freezing: keep a full tank, especially when the rig will be sitting idle during wet/cold weather. This avoids condensation in the tank. Also, the appropriate ratio of HEET to gas will help. In leaded gas days, it was 1 can to 15 gallons. Now it's 1:10. But read the bottle's label; the ratio has changed at least once. HEET's cheap insurance, keep a couple bottles handy, and put one in when you fill up.
And... it's not a failure if 1) everyone makes it home, and 2) nobody's in a body bag on the way home. So, no failure.
But the best part? L O L A Lola! That was a decent adaptation and appropriation. Well done!
Tom's monolog is absolutely golden.
Toms commitment to the goggles was impressive. This trip is the definition of what can go wrong will go wrong.
Tom is always prepared, including his standard pb&j.
it could have been a smooth operation had they not rigged Bombi from the get go........ this was the time to fix Bombi and get it right not throw it together and return to ground zero...... (Which they did)
To be fair, the lateral traction plates would have helped a little bit in the powder rut. That being said naked rails are so much more fun.
That was so much fun to watch. I love the way that they always manage to MacGyver a solution when things go sideways.
A bunch of geeks collaborating! Awesome to watch!
Tom- "This is why I wear my snow pants!" Best line yet Tom 🤣🤣
The Black Bear in Richfield is our go to restaurant where we know we will get good service and good food. It's no surprise that they were willing to accommodate you. Good on you for taking care of the staff.
I swear Matt said the Blackbird Diner in Richville
yea but what on earth does "take care of the staff" mean? Give them all a massage... a free donkey... do their laundry... ?
@@bushmanphotos good question, I was assuming he meant a nice tip...
@@bushmanphotos Robby showed you(hand motion), they tipped them heavily before they ordered.
HeavyD was 💯 about Robbie that he's super cool and just adapts and stays optimistic in all situations.
Trials and tribulations. The best part about this is You have such an amazing group of people with you. Positive lives to all of them.
Matt, not sure if anyone mentioned this. Look at using a tractor axle with wet brakes. There are also mechanical drive axles for rough terrain forklift axles that may work. I used to design equipment. If I was starting from scratch, hydraulic drives are the way to go.
With ai ground up build, it would be easier to go electric motor drives letting the computer run the pair of motor controllers ( electric braking is also possible with theas.)
You could go with old school dozer steering. There was no differential. It was a bevel gear that drove both tracks equally. There was a clutch and brake on each side. To turn you just had to declutch one side. To turn more, you applied a brake. I think the Ripsaw tank by Howe and Howe is set up the same way. The problem with differntial steering like you have set up, is when you try to stop one side, the other side HAS to speed up due to the gear ratio in the spider gears. Just bombing around (pun intended) is fine, but as soon as you put a load on it pulling, thats what overloads the drive train. Hydrostatic is nice, but requires full hydro with pumps, spool valves, and oil that gets thicker in cold weather. The mechanical drive train is more reliable.
Man I had SO MUCH FUN watching this. Thanks for having us along
You removed all of the side cleats and then you slid into the guard rail and couldn't get lateral traction. Might want to put some of them back on.
Yup. Been a groomer at ski resorts for a decade and we would never drive a cat without the ice cleats. Those things are like ice skates, any kind of off camber and the things gone
Bobbi Busted! Bummer! That was a long video, but worth every minute. Great editing with all the camera switching. Good friends, great attitudes!
I hate spellcheck - Bombi!
It was a long video but I was disappointed when it ended. I wanted it longer.
31:34 Absolutely hilarious when all the guys start dropping like flies on the uphill slog. Suddenly you can tell who does cardio. Tom is da man! And Tom being all chipper, breathing only slightly elevated, and making them all carry on a conversation just kills me! 🤣🤣🤣 Classic mind games that we play in the closing stages of an endurance race to psych out our competition. Does Tom do marathons? He obviously does something....
Except Tom had snowshoes, if you've ever walked in snow or sand a very long way, you'll understand why the snowshoes are a HUGE benefit!
@@joelcatlin7246I've seen a few more pair of snow shoes before they took off to get whiskers. Not sure though if Robby or any of his crew were wearing them though.
That was awesome. I felt a little sorry for y'all but I was still laughing and enjoying the recovery. For Matt: make a food menu with nothing but pictures for Robbi. Y'all had me lol for most of the video. Great video, big potential for bombi, and I love your crew.
Hej Team,
Im thinking the steering issues and the fact that the caliper fell off are symptoms of the same problem. The mounting bracket for the caliper flexes too much, so what you'll get is 2 things:
- it will oscilate between "grabbing" and "sliding". which ruins any brake performance
- this oscilating also caused the bolts to fail due to fatigueing.
So instead of jumping straight to a different steering system, you could try something pretty cheap and easy: Make those mounts MUCH stronger.
Probably the best way to drive a tracked vehicle is to use individual drive motors mounted in the rear. I can't see electric being practical, given the energy loss from the cold. A hydrostatic pump and "wheel motors" would be more efficient, but you will need to control both the high and low fluid temps to make it work well. Also, there is a mechanical reason that dozers and such mount the track drives in the rear - doing so only puts the bottom of the track under tension (moving forward) - the top of the track isn't loaded. Putting the track drives in the front increases track wear because you are now pulling the top of the track forward under load before it can go around the rear idler and pull the vehicle forward. If you look at 32:15 in the video you will see the track all wadded up under the drive hub. This is extremely hard on the track.
Diesel Electric. Simple.
“I’m eating my apple, it’s a little tart 😐”
😂😂 33:40
You guys and Robbie and their crew together on a job is some of your best material. The impromptu CoLab gets the best content. Don't change it - its awesome!!
I work for myself by myself, it would be fun to have a crew like you guys and have a good time getting the job done
Dude, you need to start bringing food and water with you!! I’m gonna copy and paste this into every video I can find!! You are in the recover business, you should be better prepared!!
Agreed. He brings so many untested vehicles into a recovery situation, never brings much food and water, doesn't seem to finish his projects. Drives a vehicle without a water pump for several minutes.
Asking Matt to make sense is a fool's errand at this point. This is the first video ive watched in awhile, hoping things had changed. But nothing has.
Yeah nevermind not being even properly dressed for a night in the mountains.
YES HYDROSTATIC. YES.
You guys always manage to have fun even when things don't go exactly right. Great video. I hope Robby don't give you too much grief, but that is all part of the fun.
That's a true team effort, so glad you both went and figured out what you both have to do to get your rings ready for your next adventure. Great job everyone.
I just found out that my younger brother spent some time last week designing a steering system for the Bombi and sent it to Tom. I really suggest checking that out because he's amazing. Just a little background on my little brother too. He almost died a couple years ago from a brain infection and was left with severe brain injury. so for him to actually design you a steering system says a lot about how much he likes you guys. He had to sleep all weekend to recover from designing that system. I really enjoy your content as well and watch all your stuff. keep up the awesome work and thank you for entertaining my brother.
Awe man, that got my heart. I really hope they see this!!
I loved it! This was chaos and despite and required. Problem solving and help from friends teamwork it was all great fun to watch.
Honestly its just getting better and better. Its super fun to see all these different storys at the same time :D
Matt, I agree with your Hydrostatic drive thinking. Even it will take alot of work switching over, Man it will be smooth afterwards
The best recovery, day out having fun video i have seen in ages. great to see both the snow cats out together.
It's been so awesome watching the progress of upgrading the Bombi, and seeing it in action here really shows how dang powerful it is.
Much love you guys. Watching your videos makes me feel like family. OVER😂😂
Only half way through the video but i love the goofy tone of everything. Made for a good chuckle and brightened up my day 😊
shout out to the camera crew and editors. love your work, keep it up
Matt, you didnt fail my friend, this is just another step into improving the Bombi and you will in due time, dont rush things take your time into research on how snow cats or bombi's operate and go from that. You got this Matt you have a great crew to back you up and help you all the way, i wish i still had that drive in me to fix vehicles but i lost it and unsure how to gain it back, i've prayed to god for assistance but no answer yet, i used to be just as active as you all but not anymore sadly and the bummer part is doctors refused me to work so i sit at home doing nothing being bored out of my mind, best of luck Matt oh and to your crew please continue to be there for Matt and each other, God Bless you guys.
Long day but you had the right team to make it all come together in the end. Great video. It is so nice to see everyone keep good humor even though things were not going perfect.
i love how prepared tom is. when it rains i have rain gear in my bag so when i walk to work i'm not caught unprepared. its no different than if i go somewhere without a snatchblock , pull pal, and tree savers. lifes easier when you're prepared
This was a great video! Nothing but problems but with teamwork and a never-give-up attitude you guys still get the job done.
glad I stayed for the end. I love you guys! so wholesome
You guys do great work together. Great drone footage. Thanks
Just to try and help you guys in the future, those 4wd actuators need exactly 12 volts to work, if this ever happens to you again you can run a wire to the positive side of the actuator from the battery, and it will engage again something sucks about those and the actuator will be good but the part that supplies the power won’t give enough, they suck
You GUYS are ROCKING....Much love & respect from Montreal, Quebec, canada
Bro!!!! That was amazing! Congratulations on the success and the achievement of your goals! Look forward to your future endeavors and wish you success in your congressional campaign. Love from Los Alamos!
Great program and really great positive attitude by all even when there are some major challenges... This is so inspiring for me and I will remember when I get into unexpected problems... Just keep going until you get it !! 👍👍👍
Damn hope you guys have great insurance because you do some dangerous, mind-boggling recovery. I am glad to see your priority is keeping your crew safe and teaching safety first to your crew.
Love this. Team work and collaboration!
You ALL ALWAYS Have So Much FUN Together ❤️
Matt and team pulled the rabbit out of the hat again and the team effort saved everyone's bacon! Well done all in spite of the odds against you. The old car rally saying applies, "Press on Regardless!" HIgh Fives to all especially the gracious staff at the diner, above and beyond the call. Matt and team always show great respect for those in the service industries they come in contact with. Another epic recovery "not according to plan!"
Great footage! Persistence! Great video, thanks guys and gals.
This one was really fun to watch! What a great group!
Wow that recovery was something else!!
Glad everything ended well!!
Best most FUN and enjoyment of all videos. Plus you-all had FUN.
Kaitlyn is always smiling !!! makes the job easier with her upbeat attitude.
Besides Matt's singing - this was a really great episode! Team Work!!!!
I want to work there. The paper mill is killing my soul. Great family!
I’m a heck of a driver too. Fork truck to limousines. 👍❤️
Thanks for 47 minutes and 36 seconds of great entertainment! Better than any cinema movie.
I really enjoyed this episode... the teamwork and good humor throughout (or at least edited out) is refreshing.
And Matt, your singing improv was pretty good... but I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket... so what do I know.
Best video yet! Loved it!
Wish I could join y'all crew. So much fun while working hard.
Thanks for taking us along on the,"RECOVERIES" pink hat included. 🤗😉
Best one yet , loved the way this all happened a real adventure 😅
I must say this is one of the most amusing episodes I've ever watched , Lovely stuff guys and girl ❤ Robbie must come along more
Rough recovery but no one gave up and you accomplished the mission. Well done to all. Military level stamina and dedication.
A great little ditty about Lola; thanks for sharing. After the second song, I am convinced MORR has a group song writers on staff.
For your diff problem you have to grind 2 flat spots on the center pin where the spider gears spin to let oil get in or it will sease up. It's a problem I've had to deal with often! It just needs to be 1/4" wide flat spot on opposite sides
The bombee scoots along pretty good Matt. 👍 great job
I havent watched Matt's videos for a whil maybe a year. this video is so funny because it embrases the fun of offroading ( getting stuck, and taking the most fun of it). also, watching the bamni ( for me ) for the first time after seeing it being restored. I realy enjoyed watching this video, it is so funny. especialy with Rorry being in it .
Glad you all made it home! I can't believe you even take the bombi out if it isn't 100% ready.
Old crawlers have a locked diff and a steering clutch and brake for each side. Usually foot brakes and a leavers for the steering clutches.
I have have a old bristol 22 crawler that uses this system.
But I am sure there are crawler / bulldozers that use that steering system on your part of the world that you could modify to your application.
Cheers for the Videos.
Keep it up.
Dee from New Zealand.
Another Epic Adventure. Thanks for sharing. ❤
Amazing you guys get anything done, as long as your having fun 😜
that was some serious fun with adventure and laughter ! what a team!
Way Too much to endure but you all persevered. Good job!!!
Another great vid from the MOOR team. and beyond For the Bombi delima, I would consider (note research here) to use some great big calipers (maybe wilwood) along with a hydro-boost conversion for each brake valve, OR find a self contained rear tractor diff with "power wet brakes" that can be fitted into the Bombi. The other option of course as you mentioned several times is a hydrostatic conversion which would give you a better drive but of course more mods for install. Plus, you still need good brakes which you don't have now. Personally, I would give the most attention to the hydro for the final benefit for long term use and best drive. Anyway, great vid adventure with all of both teams there that we love to watch and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Matt and Robby together is always great fun! 😂❤
Even though things went kind of south, you guys persevered, and came up with a plan and got the job done! You are all a great team together, and like they say teamwork makes the dream work ! great job as always, and great video👍🏼🤩🫡❤️
Matt needs some huge semi truck brakes on the front to make the bombi turn better and I could probably help him with that if he lets me come to the matts offroad recovery compound i wouldent charge nothing i would come fix it just for fun ive been building bombis since 1997
Whoop whoop! The BEST video I have watched on this channel in a long time!
Thanks for the risk-taking, ingenious plans to get out of trouble and the enjoyable camaraderie in the team!!!
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i love the team work!! always prepared and plan B or C maybe.
This was epic. Can't imagine the feeling of seeing whiskers coming over that hill to save the day!
Look at the bright side Matt! You got to drive the bombee in snow. You made memories and now you know what upgrades the bombee needs and you got the suburban out! Good job guys, everyone helped out. Feel bad for the guys in the back getting wet. 👍
You guys should call Edison Motors. They're working on a DIY series hybrid system for heavy duty pickups. Whatever generator they pick will be plenty large for the bombi's engine, then you just need a 150kW motor for each side of the tracks. It would be considerably more controllable.... and efficient.