LAB: Teodor Currentzis rehearses Brahms' Piano Concerto No. 2 | SWR Symphonieorchester
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Teodor Currentzis rehearses and talks about Brahms' Piano Concerto No. 2. The soloist is Alexandre Kantorow. Live recording from January 19,
2022 in Stuttgart's Liederhalle.
The scheduled soloist, Vadym Kholodenko, unfortunately had to cancel due to illness; French pianist Alexandre Kantorow thankfully stepped in for him. Helene Schneiderman sang the song "Immer leiser wird mein Schlummer" from "Fünf Lieder" op. 105 by Johannes Brahms.
Alexandre Kantorow, Piano
Helene Schneiderman, Mezzo-soprano
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Conductor: Teodor Currentzis
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Absolutely phenomenal coaching by the maestro at 40:00, the pianist responded so well. marvelous, simply marvelous.
Thank you do much!
Danke fuer den Traum, Theodor verbindet uns mit der himmlischen
Erinnerung der ersten Tagen unsers Dasein hier unten......
Currentzis makes you listen to music. And yes, Kantorow can do anything. Please give us more of these public rehearsals: the sky will break open again..
Among many others this piano concerto from master Johannes Brahms is one of the very closest one to my heart. Teodor is a phenomenal, talented, skilled intelligent and sensitive musician. One of the most genuine and authentic conductor in our days.
My God, such sublime music making--I see EXACTLY what you are trying to accomplish, and it is like I am hearing/seeing this piece for the First Time. I can also see that for what you are looking for, there can be even more--I hope to see you accomplish that or get even closer to that sometime. Magnificent rehearsal, and we need to see much more for the sake of great music making.
THE WORLD HAS WAITED FOR Teodor Currentzis!
WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE HIM!
Вы, Правы! Согласна с Вами.
Μια γλυκιά ανατριχίλα, μια μαγεία, δάκρυα στα μάτια,θαυμασμός!Θεοδωρος, Θεού δώρο, πραγματικά για όλους μας!
Wie schön kann eine Probenarbeit sein! Wie phantasiereich! Wenn einer da ist, der nie nachgibt und andere sich so wunderbar darauf einlassen, eine Form wird geschaffen, es wird erzählt- nur so entsteht Musik!
Herzlichen Dank dafür!
Brahms we love you ❤️❤️
Как прекрасно, когда жизнь превращается в сказку, благодаря сказочной музыке Брамса и филигранной работой дирижёра и оркестра над каждой музыкальной фразой. Вот оно- волшебство! Низкий поклон!🌺"Мне Брамса сыграют, я вздрогну, я сдамся.." Борис Леонидович Пастернак
Θοδωρή, δεν υπάρχουν λόγια! Σφίξιμο στο στομάχι από τη συγκίνηση. Πολλή Αγάπη από την Αθήνα! Σε περιμένουμε!
ФАнтастика--Оркестр --Пианист--Курентзис!!!!!Брависсимо!!!❤❤❤
Currentzis is wonderful🤗🤞
I want to live by this place and attend every rehearsal
３８分あたりからフランスの優れたピアニスト・カントロフ（父は高名なヴァイオリニスト・透明で繊細）へのクルレンティスの指導は見事。
自身が天才指揮者であるが同時に見事な音楽指導者。ロマン主義に陥らないことで、ブラームスの豊かなロマンを醸し出す。
Agreed! Kantorow excellent with and without directions! Love him so much!
What a magnificent cello solo.
Faszinierend! Ich hätte nicht gedacht das es mich über 1 Stunde so fesseln würde! Bravo di tutti!
I read some negative, harsh comments.
It makes me feel sad, because I don’t see any malice in Currentzis.
From a musician perspective: I feel that there is some spectacularization and dramatization on Currentzis’ part.
But it’s only to bring to light, to the open, some otherwise really hidden and non-communicable aspects of this music.
Maybe someone will argue that music is ineffable and meant to be experienced inside, and that any externalization is a simplification.
I agree, but Currentzis here is showing us very valuable tracks, not as an authority, but as a friend.
Then it will be your inner work to take back this music inside, and experience it with through your own lens, maybe ultimately disagreeing with what was said in this lecture.
As a final note, even simplifying is an art, and in my experience nobody does it better than Currentzis today. Schiff is also a very good example.
At least appreciate this effort on their part.
Couldn’t have said it any better.
Magic!
I think Currentzis is trying to inject the emotional sensitivity of the music into the members of the orchestra. There would be many ways to do that but he choose to do it his way. He wants them to play more than the notes on the page. He is sculpting the music to his vision, and who is to say it is right or wrong. It is his sculpture, let him do it his way. As an amateur musician, I am impressed with the professionalism of the orchestra, the conductor and the soloist. I very much enjoyed that he broke the piece into understandable parts. If any profession should allow ego to show, it is music. We usually play for ourselves and to be praised for our good works. Don't hate him for his ego, praise him for letting it guide the orchestra to a great performance.
The music is a true dream that only a genius could written. The pianist is fabulous and amazing not only for the sensibility and sublime interpretation that touches us in the deep of our soul. The divine music produced by Brahms is magnificent, fantastic and unforgettable . Thanks for this wonderful recording. The orchestra interpretation and the explanations given by Currentzis are extraordinary in order to appreciate even more this masterpiece.
Currentzis strives to express the spiritual dimension of the work - and that is his great gift. He has picked up the baton from Furtwangler.
Kantarow is a genius ❤
Thank you!
Heavenly!
Oh my, I wish every conductor would give a music lesson like this to the audience. Please thank him and the great elegantly performing Alexandre Kantorow. 🌷🌷🌷 ( Holland) Und Danke SWR Kultur. 🌷🌷🌷
Wir danken ebenso!
gefühlt; seine Musik streichelt meine Haut
What a wonderful rehearsal!!.It's always a pleasure to listen to Brahms' music!!! Thanks so much for this gift!!!. BLESSINGS!!!
German is a Greek to me and I never knew what that song was about. Finally, more than half a century later, I had to find it out. Thank you, Maestro.
My slumber grows ever more peaceful;
and only like a thin veil now does my anxiety
lie trembling upon me.
Often in my dreams I hear you
calling outside my door;
no one is awake to let you in,
and I wake up and weep bitterly.
Yes, I will have to die;
another will you kiss,
when I am pale and cold.
Before the May breezes blow,
before the thrush sings in the forest:
if you wish to see me once more,
come, o come soon!
My slumber grows ever more peaceful
Ευχαριστουμε Μαέστρο που μεσω της μουσικης σου μας κανεις να ονειρευτουμε ξανα..keep your beautiful smile..
როგორი საოცარი და ზღაპრულია. ვისურვებდი, ეს ყველაფერი ცხადად მენახა. მაესტრო მხოლოდ კონცერტს არ დგამს... ეს არ არის მხოლოდ მუსიკა და ნოტები. ეს ხელოვნებაა, ეს სანახაობაა, რომელიც სიამოვნებისგან სულს გიწვავს. ალექსზე რა უნდა ვთქვა? ყველაფერს მისი ხელები ამბობენ. ცოტას შეუძლია ამის შენამდე მოტანა... რომ გაგრძნობინოს და უბრალოდ შეისისხლხორცო. მთელი 1 სთ. და 11 წთ ცრემლი არ შემშრობია თვალზე. ეს იყო ტკივილის, სევდისა და სიამოვნების ცრემლი.
Благодаря Вашим интерпретациям, начала любить классическую музыку! Благодарю Вас, Теодор!!! Ваши лаборатории- нужное и важное дело. Не изменяйте своей мечте!
There is one thing that I had not thought of so far regarding classics. I mean those music pieces which are not familiar to my ears, causing to not like some composers. Well, it seems that someone needs some interpretation to listen to music and to be fulfilled by senses. And that's what this rehearsal did to me!
Thank you for making love this piano concerto, to understand, to dream, to want to live, to fall in love again and again... Thank you Theodore! You make us Greeks so proud! God bless you ♥🙏
I don’t understand why someone said the playing is much worse than before his rendering. It’s remarkable to me how he transformed the solo cello sound in 20min. It is simply much more interesting and complex. It doesn’t matter if he is being pretentious or sincere in his gestures and words. The result speaks.
We are different musicians ) there is an agenda for open rehearsal; he is gifted for public
Благодарю!)
Superb .i fail words to praise him
Grossartig!
Majestic!
It' s beautiful!❤
It's beautiful plaing.
Totally mesmerizing musical experience! Thanks for posting 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Brava Helen! Bravo maestro Currentzis!!! 😍
Danke an ALLE die soo schön spielen konnten, trotz dieser schrecklichen Masken.
Waited for Kantorow- he is magic! Finally he plays))) a conductor just speak over his playing ; we would hear pianist’s feeling without Theodore . But for public it’s probably more appealing. Kantorow to the end- 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I believe it is only to Kantorow's benefit to listen very carefully to what Currentzis was painting, I can hear it opened a new window for him. Excellent pianist though, with much potential.
Какое счастье слушать гениальную музыку Брамса в исполнении вашего оркестра, уникального пианиста Александра Канторова и глубокие комментарии Теодора Курентзиса. Это потрясающий спектакль. Браво!!!
Пусть искусство объединяет !!!
Ich kann kaum 27.03 abwarten ich hoffe sehr dass Teodor nach Köln kommt ❤🙏
Вам можно позавидовать.
Der ist genial
Very beautiful! Some orchestras cannot even play like that at a concert, not mentioning a rehearsal.
Beautiful cello solo!
one of the best moments of music creation I have from many years now...... Currentzis know what he wants ant know haw to get it..... and the musicians love him....
Как же хорошо выглядит сегодня Теодор спасибо за концерт
Qué maravilla!
Fantastica interpretazione, grazie mille!
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤🔥
🙏🏻❤
παρακολουθω αυτη την προβα καθε βραδυ δεν κοιμαμαι και εγω το βραδυ για να ηρεμησω Θοδωρη εκτος ολων των αλλων χαρισματων σου εισαι και ενας εξερετικος ηθοποιος
Incredible …
Superbe, mais il faudrait avoir l'enregistrement du concerto en entier, surtout avec Kantorow qui est, on le sait, un grand passionné de Brahms. !
L'intégralité du concerto pour piano de Brahms avec Kantorow est à écouter lors de ce concert : ruclips.net/video/2ALWxXpiBuM/видео.html
Тронуло за душу... Спасибо...
Que tous les instruments de musique apaisent ce monde tourmenté ....
Beautiful ❤️
Чайковский и Малер в вашем исполнении - шедевры.
Аbout what is dreaming...let's dream together...
Thank you.
Lovely! It sounds like having a conversation with Mahler.
Mahler??
Fascinating approach by the conductor, but sad that only the 3rd movement is included.
εξαιρετικό!!!
Sublime.
Maestro muito inspirado em busca das profundezas de Brahms. Mas me frustra bastante só ter acesso a fragmentos desta celestial sinfonia. A performance completa deve ser maravilhosa. Bem, o maestro é um poeta.
Gostaria de corrigir o que acabo de expressar. Falei em celestial sinfonia, na verdade é o maravilhoso concerto no2 quase uma sinfonia. Acho que sonhei!
I enjoyed how this rehearsal, focused on the subtle interplay between the instruments in this movement. Some listeners may comment on the arbitrariness of the images that Currentzis uses to highlight the beautiful transitions. Personally I found no harm in them, nor was I put off from hearing the music.
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"......να περάσουμε από την μία διάσταση στην άλλη..." ,από αυτή της πραγματικότητας σε αυτή των ονείρων.....κ Κουρεντζή είστε ο βαρκάρης ....
Una vez más tengo que LAMENTAR que estos documentos audiovisuales tan interesantes, NO estén SUBTITULADOS al ESPAÑOL...Una verdadera pena...!!!!
Just learn English
@@grandegiancarlo ¿Por qué...?
Есть же совершенство не земле !! Теодор одно из них
Ouve isto. E incrivel
Brings back memories of college days whenever that one student just could not stop sharing half-baked ideas all through class.
Καταπληκτικόσ ο μαέστρος..
Η μουσική θεϊκή....
Ονειρεμένο ❗
He is so funny an hollow! Talking about dreams and so on... Trying to deliver an image of a philosopher or the man out of this world, he only makes sane people laugh over him.))
Why do you have the soloist waiting ? Can’t you rehearsal the orchestra along and after with the soloist all of you together?
The main purpose here is public who pay $$$, and we are for free:). it should be understandable , master class, many beautiful words.
@@svitlanasyrtsovapianostudi5157 Bullocks answer. Attending the rehearsal was free for the public.
The rehearsal was not about getting the orchestra to play together. It was about creating the sentiment of the movement. Better, maybe, to have the orchestra and the soloist together here? 🤔
Die Mezzo-Sopranistin wabert sehr!
Ein Vibrato darf NICHT die Intonation gefährden!
Schade!!!
🍷🍷🍷🥂🥂🥂🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
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Who is the pianist.
Alexandre Kantorow
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You will be hard pressed to find a negative comment from an established artist. It is always the nobodys and wannabes that overflow youtube with their BS. Let them live in obscurity. Let Currentzis be worshipped by true artists.
Is that true though? Ever been in rehearsals with Riner? Szell? Maazel?
How arrogant, Los Patas, to talk like this when you are a semi-amateur like yourself. "Established artist"? What a laugh. P. S. The rhythm in Bach's E Flat Minor Prelude (WTC I) is NOT a waltz. Kindergarten mistake. Whoever was the ignoramus who "taught" you should return your money, provided you paid anything.
Einzigartig was der Mann macht! Und den "Musikalisch Korrekten" stehen die Haare zu Berge...
Er hört alles, was zwischen und hinter den Noten steht. Brahms ist erstanden!
and the concert??????
The concert will be available next week.
@@klassikswrkultur thenks. is fantastic....
we look for the concert..... please.....
@@klassikswrkultur when??????????????????????
We still have to ask for a little patience until next week. Sorry …
48:26
One complete rehearsal for 1 movement only. All the other movements could be rehearsed the same way! At least the outcome was fantastic!
Мне очень жалко музыкантов- творить в масках........:((((((((((
Horrible to see all musicians wearing these horrible masks! I'll never get used to it ;-(
Give me a break…,
Playing in masks looks so ugly. It is a profanation of music. Better not to play at all. And conductor do not wear mask, another absurd detail.
Нашли о чём написать?!
I think people's criticisms have more to do with the verbose nature of his language and leadership. He is more interested in words than music. The fact is, he is so unwilling to step away from abstract poeticism that at times he ends up having little effect on the actual sound itself. I agree that the interpretive aspect of the art form is primary, but if the musicians are not easily translating whatever abstraction a conductor is attempting to convey, to the degree that they must repeat a phrase ad nauseam, that is a testament to the shortcomings of the conductor. Currentzis is more interested in his self-perceived profundity than he is actually extracting a musically profound conveyance by the orchestra - textbook musical narcissism. He takes so long to shape each phrase, not because he has such genius vision and demands that it be achieved, but because he's not as good at his job as he thinks he is. Amazing how easily people are conned into believing something is good because it comes in a pretty box has a nice label.
I had my share of dealing with people who suffer from NPD, and let me tell you, this guy, oh my.... A shame, he is obviusly talented.
If you hate Currentzis , you hate music
Nonsense
@@WinrichNaujoks Tell me then which conductor is as musical as him in 2022
@@elionthekeys That's a different question.
Preposterous , pretentious. By the way Immer Leiser was written after the piano concerto. All this music really is from the period after the Schumannn encounter. The real question is do we feel this in 3 or six and much and how swift are the crescendi . Not every phrase can end slower. Why doesn’t the guy show anything with his hands. Why does he not address the question of the direction of the 8th notes in the solo. Too much time necessary for all that love and darkness and tender and sensitive looks upward into wings.
Picky, picky , picky .
He needs to be able to show it all with gestures. The musicians would understand that. Either that or mark it in the parts. For example, Carlos Kleiber was notorious for having all of his musicians’ parts notated precisely to what he wanted before the first rehearsal. Here, Currentzis clearly did not prep the musicians to be able to approach this rehearsal lab as a lab instead of a normal rehearsal. This clearly is a lab, and string players continue to show their lack of ability to immediately think outside the box. This wouldn’t happen in Berlin or London.
What a load of crap! Just let the solo cellist play . He Is already playing beautifully. Stop infusing your ridiculous thoughts into music that already expresses sentiments you can’t possibly comprehend. It’s all a show and, unfortunately, the people in the audience are eating it up. I seriously doubt the fine musicians in the orchestra are taking this charade seriously. How sad to see these types of conductors wasting precious rehearsal time with this nonsense.
Pardon....are you hard of hearing? Else, listen, juste listen again....and surely at some point, you will get it. :-)
@@um3338 I had enough of listening after about a minute of his nonsense. Typical of conductors who can’t either conduct nor rehearse and indulge in senseless speeches. That orchestra is quite refined and plays beautifully already. It’s all a show.
By the way, when he is rehearsing in Russian, there's the same picture. I heard it by myself. Yeah, sometimes it sounds a bit pointless and excessively. But sometimes Currentzis can say something really interesting and precious.
@@janwagner3682 listen....to the MUSIC...not to the person. Compare recordings...
@@janwagner3682 it is very conformist to think that if the orchestra sounds refined it is fine. Because of this thought, orchestral musicians generally have an unhappy life and the public gets bored of concerts.
I may be wrong but I seem to remember this movement as marked, 'Andante' - NOT Adagio or Largo. It should be taken at a walking tempo. This is a distortion of Brahms intentions.
The only reason I can see for Teodor to speak English to a German orchestra is that if he spoke his native language (Greek), there would be almost zero chance anyone would understand him. Thus, his imagery in English may sound a bit “off” at times. What other choice does he have? And, a musician without “ego” is no musician at all.
He speaks too much.such useless comparisons.just play will you?
Yeah, I enjoy very much a lot of his interpretations, but I found this rehearsal very frustrating. Those cheesy comments about the music annoyed me so much! Is really there a necessity for that? I dont have patience for that.
Are all his rehearsals like that, or is he just acting this way in a public rehearsal?