LAB: Teodor Currentzis rehearses Shostakovitch's 8th | SWR Symphonieorchester
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Teodor Currentzis rehearses and talks about Shostakovitch's 8th symphony. Live recording from January 18, 2023 in Stuttgart's Liederhalle.
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Definitely need more conductors doing open rehearsal recordings like this! Awesome resource!
It's highly misleading. A rehearsal lasts 2.5 hours minus 20 minutes break. If you waste your time babbling about what the work means you lose precious time. And orchestra musicians hate conductors who talk too much.
I have heard many detractors rake on Currentzis for his pseudo-intellectualism and pompousness. Now I know what they meant. This guy is full of himself.
Ну и что? Он говорит о том, сто его переполняет.Его нутрл- это музыка
MERCI! MERCI! MERCI!!!АНГЕЛА ХРАНИТЕЛЯ ЛЮБИМОМУ ТЕОДОРУ! ТЕОДОР КУРЕНТЗИС- это философия МУЗЫКИ! Благодаря величайшему его таланту и трудолюбию, я слышу музыку, которая передаёт и время, и место и настроение композитора и моя Душа сопереживает и радуется Божественным звукам...СЛАВА БОГУ ЗА ВСЁ! БРАВО ТЕОДОРУ, его концертам и проектам генеральный репетиций!!! Божией помощи Вам ТЕОДОР!
Que inspirador su comentario.
Valioso aporte a la comprensión de lo que éste gran dirigente desea transmitir.
Gracias.
Ελα ρε Θοδωρη γίγαντα !!!!
Ελλαδαρα παντου ρε άρχοντααα....
Shostakovich composed some of the best symphonies ever in history.
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Shostakovich Mahler and Beethoven wrote the greatest symphonies
@@DynastieArtistique I can’t agree more.
Mahler is the goat on that tho.
Really. It's one of the best symphonies.
Спасибо. Thank you very much.
Theodor Currentzis does an amazing job here and the musicians as well as they are able to deliver the difficult things he is asking for. What a privilege to be able to watch this. Thanks!
Thank you!
Funded Scharlatan
@@klassikswrkultur🙂
This guy is a spreader of russian lies and propaganda. We have public broadcasting fees in Germany and i dont want to finance a supporter of war and totalitarian regimes 😡
Κύριε Κουρετζή είστε ότι καλύτερο έχει αναδείξει η Ελλάδα μας. Είστε ο καλύτερος μουσικός, συνθέτης....σε όλο τον κόσμο!!!
Είμαστε περήφανοι για εσάς!🌹💐🌷❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💗❣️🇬🇷🇬🇷
As for me, it has been exciting journey inside the universal of Shostakovich by guiding maestro with a lots of passion.
It’s unbeatable feeling when you can see how musical filigree created by the orchestra .
Какой тонко- интонационный в извлечении многообразия звучания.
most of it is fastidious blah blah . Rehearsals filming is about the conductor, not the composer, for whom we only need to listen to the music, as many times as we wish if needed, to grasp his art.
Gestaltungswille - Kreativität - Wagnis - Vorstellung - Mut - Risiko : Der sich in die Mitte begibt hat immer Neider und Besserwisser. Danke an alle Musiker.
Das alles rechtfertigt nicht die Unterstützung eines Angriffskrieges
In Europa. Macht es wie die mPhil schmeißt ihn raus😡
I absolutely love these series of rehearsal time
Thank you so much!
Amazing!
Imposing, interesting, enchanting, but most of all a journey into classical music.
Θοδωρη εισαι καταπληκτικος διδασκαλος ο τροπος που τους μαθαινεις βημα βημα την ερμηνεια των μουσικων εργων ειναι μοναδικος παρακολουθω τις προβες σου ξανα και ξανα και δεν σε χορταινω
Das LAB Format ist wundervoll. Und es ist herrlich, dass Currentzis die Proben mit philosophischen/spirituellen Gedanken und auch künstlerischen Bildern verbindet. Und mit einer erfrischenden Prise Humor. Ohne diesen Ansatz und seine außergewöhnliche Persönlichkeit (die so viele nicht mögen) hätte ich persönlich vermutlich nie einen Zugang zur Klassik-Welt gefunden.
Ich war an dem Abend bei dieser Probe und bei dem unvergesslichen Konzert in Mannheim. Ich hoffe, das Orchester weiß, WIE unglaublich gut es war - bei aller schwäbischer Bescheidenheit.
See you in Baden-Baden.
Wir freuen uns drauf! Vielen Dank für die tolle Rückmeldung.
Ich finde seine putin nähe und die Unterstützung eines Angriffskrieges in Europa unerträglich . Das hat mit dem Klischee der "Künstlerpersönlichkeit" nichts mehr zu tun .Es ist peinlich für Deutschland ,dass solche Leute hier arbeiten dürfen und auch noch beklatscht werden .😡
Εξαιρετικός !!
Παρακολοθωνταςτην πρόβα ,μπορώ να εκτιμήσω και να θαυμάσω το αποτέλεσμα!
Μπράβο και στην ορχήστρα!!❤
Μπράβο στον Κουρεντζή..αστέρι
I'm admiring your work.
It's your victory!
They're plaing beautiful.
Thank you.
Κύριε Κουρεντζή,
"....στην απέραντη μοναξιά της ύπαρξης μέσα στην κενότητα της απεραντοσύνης....."οι υπέροχες ερμηνευτικές συλλήψεις σας....
Ευχαριστούμε από τα βαθύ της ψυχής μας. 😊
Yo, maximum pressure in the beginning of the symphony. I want it grim. I want it Kurt SANDERLING
These type of rehearsals/performances could be very useful in helping general public to understand music. But this way, they would fall out of “entertainment” and quickly become educational. And that, I’m afraid, isn’t the Theodors goal.
He likes to be in the center of the spotlight, mostly preaching to the choir. He likes to “meditate” and be worshipped as a result, during the rehearsal, he seems to get into spontaneous and unnecessary “splitting hair”, getting into nano-fiber of music organization, result of which is usually exaggeration of “piano” into quadruple piano, and micro-details of “zusammen” and its articulation. He claims that his role is “to tell the truth” in the name of composer, not really, he uses composer to glorify Theodor Currentzis, keeping the orchestra on this unbearable short leash.
I wish him to shave off his narcissism and allow the orchestra freedom of breathing with their own creativity. Recently, Theodor shown few signs in going that way, which is great. He will have a chance to put his name into the glorious list of conductors, otherwise, it will be just very sad.
Completely agree. Huge ego!!! this unique maestro. Needs to moderate his approach to the musicians. !!!
Completely disagreeing here. The orchestra doesn't convey a coherent feel and interpretation in the beginning. How the piece is played doesn't make you feel anything.
He really gets them there and everything starts to make sense. It's getting so much more emotional after his drastic interventions. And one has to understand that a conductor needs to act in front of the orchestra in a theatrical way to mirror the expression for every seat to see. Then every player knows how to breathe together. They can't see each other but everyone can see the conductor. So it's less about ego. It's more about showing everyone how to feel in real time.
His musical results are emotionally exceptional. He gives his interpretation which makes total sense to me. Heard this piece countless times before without any soul. So I think what he's doing here works astonishingly great.
I have no idea if he is overly narcissistic or not. If I were part of an orchestra, I'd for sure struggle in following a young person telling me what the composer wants - in a piece I love and know myself.
But I have to accept the conductor is in a position to have a better, more global overview on how the ensemble plays it.
Unrelated to this video here: There's this general issue of orchestras being experts at certain pieces, but their changing conductors are not...
Teodor - New Genius!
er ist ein Anstreicher mehr nicht.
Феноменально! Целебно! Красиво! Благодарю!
Thanks You! This is brilliantly! This is amazing!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💐💐💐❤️❤️❤️
It’s Mahler style…. Not Shostakovich. Unfortunately..
Ευχαριστούμε κ.Κουρεντζη..
Я люблю классическую музыку. Я всегда слушая её, плачу. Ещё я влюблена в Теодора.
Magnificent! I have loved this music for 30 years, and this rehearsal has opened it up for me like never before. Bravo!
No risky, no whisky. 1:33:35 They come in too softly. They need to be fully there on the initial phrase
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1:20:57 real
Just Amazing. Thanks. If possible more rehersals,please
This is just wonderful to watch & to hear the subtle changes. Amazing attention and depth from the orchestra
The orchestra is the conductor's instrument. He can play it the way he wants, for better or worse. The question really is, does the conductor really understand the composer? Shostakovitch, to my mind, was not hard for virtuoso musicians to understand. Never the less, the conductor has to convince all within ear shot.
Oh man that was awesome! I've listened to this piece for years and totally missed how some of the themes were used, like the allegro for example, he just made the piece so much more epic for me!
Mr.Teodor Currentzis, really I'm admiring. It's good work.
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I also love his voice
The concertmaster of the second violins is simply wonderful! Continuous visual contact with the maestro!
He's incredible...
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너무 좋다 😭 감사합니다
Théodor, salut apo tnv Ikapia!!! kaln kpovia!!! sylviane!!!!!
💙 работа мастера безупречна
This is great to understand Shostakovitch's Symphony.
Just a wild guess : Schostakowitsch would have opposed the Invasion of Ukraine. Being good at conducting is not an excuse for everything .😡
Крутое шоу...
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❤🙏 Благодарю!
SLAVA UKRAINI
I think he shouldn't talk about right/wrong all the time. That's often debated. More honest and less offensive would be if he said "I'd like us to play it this way".
His interpretation make a lot of sense and the actual performance is stunning. The words he picks and his talk in general are too much about himself. He is trying to sell himself as a philosopher, but seems fake.
i'd love to know if this is a general rehearsal or which day? cos I see audience in...
This Currentzis LAB took the form of a public rehearsal with an audience. About the idea of the Currentzis LABs: A few days before his concerts, he comments on selected works, explains his interpretive approaches, exchanges ideas with guests or actively involves the audience. This can happen in very different ways.
@@klassikswrkultur thank you for taking the time to respond. I watched a few of these now and I think I get the idea. I m sure it will evolve into something great. Keep up the good work and the uploads for us who can't physically be there. Happy day.
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Здрпавствуйте! Скажите,пожалуйста,как и где можно посмотреть эти репетиции на русском языке.Заранее спасибо.
Thank you for the message. Unfortunately, the rehearsal only exists in the form shown.
The valkyries are not coming - no way, Sir!
Любовь 🤍
ruclips.net/video/snpK0q47YgA/видео.html Tamtam-guy almost loses his balance after the FFF blow.
Heavy stuff, this symphony 😎
Bravoo 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Good✨✨🌸🌸✨✨
The musicians seem to be not inspired..
Schade, dass für diejenigen von uns, die kein Englisch sprechen, noch keine deutsche Übersetzung enthalten ist.
Vielen Dank für die Anregung! Wir nehmen sie mit in unsere Gespräche.
Englisch verstehen würde doch erstmal reichen?
Wir leben im 21. Jahrhundert, du hast Zugang zum Internet. Um Gottes Willen lerne einfach die Sprache. Wirklich peinlich...
Ohne Vorwurf: ich würde auch dazu raten, es zu lernen. Nur mit Deutsch ist man viel zu eingeengt. Neue Sprachen lernen und erarbeiten macht Spaß!
Stop talking about yourself. We will do that after you leave.
Why is this man standing in front of the orchestra telling them things as if they don't probably know it already? This isn't a junior high or high school orchestra. Very condescending and egotistical. But not anything new for this conductor. The day he stops making everything about himself and stops imposing his wrong headed ideas into every nook and cranny of the music, is the day he'll become a better conductor. After watching some of this video, it becomes painfully obvious why his recordings of Beethoven are so genuinely wretched and wrong.
I'll tell you what, the orchestra doesn't know. They are all incredible musicians, professional, but it's not their job to think on interpretation. That's a conductors job. And he does that beautiful, even with the old tricks of his. By your logic there is no need to work hard and careful on the piece, and this laziness is the reason why a lot of classical music sound soulless.
And I don't understand where does he talk about himself?
Agreed, his interpretation of Mozart's Requiem is nowhere near the legend Karl Böhm.
@@kriskoulaaizen4942 Of course the musicians must work hard. And the conductor is the captain of the ship. And all are there to best bring out what the composer's intentions were in each composition they perform. And yet the strings (not talking about violins, violas etc.) shouldn't be so taut that there isn't room for the musicians to breath within those parameters. What I hear from this conductor's performances is the exact opposite. He's so eager to make pieces sound new, a breath of fresh air from the past. Yet, due to his ego, the music is turned into something far from what the composer intended (in Beethoven, it's laughable in fact).
@@jeremyberman7808 if that's your opinion, I respect that. I, personally, love his works.
You are free to misleading…….
His massage to audience not to musicians only!!!!!