Diablo 4: Why HEAVEN CLOSED its GATES!
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I think that you pretty much nailed it with this video and I have to agree. I also am intrigued by the reordering of the High Heavens and believe that this may be the main reason as to why the angels closed their gates. It would make sense, considering the fact that the angels must be in harmony for them to perform the ritual to create more angels. So they would have to restructure things in order to find that harmony, with regards to this, it makes sense that they would close off the High Heavens. They can't afford any distractions while trying to restructure everything and, let's face it, Sanctuary is very distracting.
Thats actually an incredibly succinct way of describing it!
Game LORE Dash I’ll say, kept me from having to watch the video! lolololol😄
Well, with the restructuring of high heavens, they have Valor for military discipline, Fate for knowledge, Hope for unity. They are missing Justice so no judge as to right or wrong. No wisdom to guide the Heavens. So, It might just be without Justice Imperius is just grabbing up all the power with no one to stop him. No wisdom to tell Imperius, "Hey, stop that! We are out number 5 to 1 by demons, Let's not cause a civil war in here." I think Imperius is pushing his luck in the high heavens and making the lightsong impossible.
Blizzard should hire this guy as a voice actor
Thank you! Would love to be a part of the world of Diablo... I actually did a voice over for a blizzard trailer for overwatch competitive that they never released 😅
For real!!
The High Heaven saw what happen in 2020 and went NOPE!
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lmao, even angels are afraid of corona. the virus strong enough to kill immortals. that actually sounds kinda epic.
I’m thinking Tyrael as the aspect of wisdom saw that Imperius is the next big problem for a greater balance as he is now tainted by sin. Imperius hates that the Nephalem had to save the day on his watch with the pride he holds onto. I think Tyrael locked heaven as a way to keep Imperius contained and secretly in check but Imperius figured out his motive and in his pride killed him and is going to be a major villain boss in D4. The moral dilemma is with the nephalem. As the mother figure of Lilith and her appeal to the nephalem versus opposing both her evil and the new evil of Imperius. Both heaven and hell get destroyed and the balance exists just with the nephalem as the biological mix.
That would suck if they killed off Tyreal after killing off Cain. Tyreal does what ever he wants too so if hes not there to help, definitely dead
It make me mad they killed off Cain without any reasoning or meaning to the series.
@@type-moonarchive8878 They had reasoning but it sucked was all. They killed him off because they "apparently" felt as though they needed a younger replacement. Hence Leah.
Which is idiotic considering they were also planning on killing her off from the start, meaning that their prior excuse for killing off Cain doesn't really hold up.
About the Lorath Nahr thing, check the first scenes before the old man shows up in the Gameplay Trailer of Diablo IV, the scene inside the barn shoes 'something' leaning against a wooden beam that looks particularly like his weapon (check the hi-res Gameplay trailer from the press kit and his concept art from Diablo III). Also believe that would be Tyrael inside the grave.
Great video, awesome narrative! I would really like if Tyrael earned his wings back in Diablo 4 and become Justice once more, making his story complete, in my opinion. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Never thought of that but what an awesome sight to behold!
Well, I mean they were blindsided by the utter power potential of the Nephalem.
The only one who even had a conceived idea of their power potential was Lilith, which is why she chose to birth them (and by default, thus humanity) in the first place.
Prime Evil Diablo practically pimp slapped Imperious down with near casual ease. Only suffering a scratch on the cheek in their encounter.
And the entirety of the angelic host was then also pushed to the brink in defense of heaven.
They were losing.
Whereas the Nephalem, took on that same Diablo singlehandedly.
Hell, Lilith is actually miffed that with the world stone destroyed and in shards, the Nephalem's power is actually limited.
Implying they're only functioning at a fraction of their full capacity.
Much of the Diablo Reddit is screaming "f__k the heavens! Help mom!" in response to Lilth being the new big bad, lol
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Which I'd not be surprised if they pull a fast one on us like they did with Diablo 2 and all the former allies from the previous game are now enemies in this upcoming one.
Meaning, the Nephalem may actually be the final boss in Diablo 4 if she "turns" them.
The fandom is really asking the question, are the heavens really deserving of being saved?
They're just as guilty via standing by inactive of perpetuating this seemingly endless eternal conflict as the legions of hell are for always throwing the first punches.
Which again, Lilith is against.
Her goal has always been the end of the eternal conflict.
At this point i would be like well mom if you dont want to kill everybody iam with you, because heaven and hell are all assholes.
How would the Nephalem's power be limited by the Worldstone being shattered? It being shattered is what allowed them to come back in the first place. It was attuned to limiting humanity's powers in order to keep them from wiping out Heaven and Hell themselves (which is what Lilith made them for). Now that limiter is gone. Which is why D3 was the natural evolution of the storyline, despite many complaining about the over-the-top levels of power the player character had and why D4 is reining that back in. Not sure Lilith cares about not throwing the first punch. She bred an army to take the fight to both sides and rule over the remainder, and she killed all of her colleagues that were afraid of the nephalem's power. She got banished to the Abyss twice because of her basically seeking to take a neutral third party and use it to rule all of Creation. Humans would rather be left alone, but she wants to end the war by ending everyone else and reigning supreme.
Lmao you think Lilith wants peace?
Diablo nearly destroyed Heaven and the have only 3 Angels left and one of them is Imperius xd
I still want my chance to bust Imperious sqaa in the mouth.
@@greglancaster9053 The way Diablo ate Imperius' lunch, all you need is your favorite nephelem, a nice armor build and Tyreal's sword to open the gates of the Heavens to get your chance. Run enough stuff through the Kanai cube and you might even get the sword. ;)
I so want that sword. It survived the shattering of the World Stone, and I suspect it had a role in Tyreal's pulling himself back together afterward, as it did in restoring his memory and powers in Act 1. Unless it was somehow found and taken off to another realm, it's likely still in Sanctuary. Perhaps it is waiting.
that kinda reminds me, does tyrael actually get his sword back every time or does he just have hundreds of identical copies laying around somewhere? it seems to get lost in almost every fight. first he dropped it into the fire/lava when he got overwhelmed by tal rasha and the dark wanderer, then he threw it to destroy the world stone, then it got broken and repaired during diablo 3. maybe in d4 there will be a secret loot room in heaven as an easter egg, kinda like the cow level, but instead of enemies it will just have a lot of chests and each chest contains at least 1 tyraels sword. lmao
Heaven was attacked by Diablo with all other evils with him and it looks like through diablo the first and original prime evil which is Tathamet almost returned
I'm sure someone else has pointed this out, but the single Nephelem is not alone. Not only are there others of the other classes, but the companions can all go through the temple challenge, which implies they are also Nephelem, though not so developed. The PC and three companions, entirely apart from pets, are dangerous to both Heaven and Hell. With Imperius corrupted and Tyreal mortal, there is little the Heavens can actually do, especially if Tyreal's sword should remain in human keeping, but to close and bind the gates as well as to seal off at least some of the Hoadric portals as well. Otherwise, Imperius might have his throwdown with a heroic Nephelem and come out the worse for it.
Btw, which angel was it that loved a Nephelem that Tyreal mentions to Lyndon in Act V?
Was that Lycander? The one who fell for Phillos.
@@TailsoftheBlade That's an interesting way to explain it. I was going by game play. If your character asks their elder spirit, there are fallback plans with other sages among the trapped souls that whichever of the strong ones make(s) it, they will be guided to the way to take Maltheal down.
@@TailsoftheBlade That would have been tremendously cool, especially when/if you get the companions' backstories sorted out. They might be friends, bonded by the events and activities, but they have lives and world still torn up as a result of all that's happened.
@@subcaratothemoon1982 I've got the spear of Lycander a couple of times already in game. If it also served as a key to open the gates of the heavens...
Anyway, it looks like I will be buying the novels. The lore is interesting.
Love the content mate, Thanx for the videos your doing a great job. Your channel is on the up and up.
Thank you!
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Amazing theories!! I'd have to add that Tyrael becoming Wisdom doesn't really make sense. The Aspects relate to the Archangel's very essence, they don't need to learn, they simply are... Tyrael being a mortal can indeed learn wisdom, but he cannot be THE aspect of it imo... Plus he would die some day, as a mortal... I think a new aspect of Wisdom emerged from the Arch and he directed the closing of the Heavens...
A slightly corrupted Archangel perhaps? I don't think Diablo's meddling with the Arch had no consequence after all... No new aspects maybe?
A wrathful, but tactical Imperious after Tyrael's death that suggests allowing mortals the silence of heaven to prove where their free will takes them? So many ideas!
yeah, the storywriting for d3 was kinda lackluster. one way to save it would be to say tyrael didn't actually become the aspect of wisdom but rather acted as replacement until a new true aspect of wisdom was formed. at least to me that's what makes the most sense so that's what i'll believe.
Malthael was right...
In terms of outright protecting the Angels and continuing their existence he may very well have been right. The sad fact is that when all is said it done, it's also quite possible that both heaven and hell need to somewhat be re-assimilated for things to change on Sanctuary. I always fear a little bit they will go this route where they try to restore Anu or something to make a new balance in the Diablo universe. I think though it would never work because the ongoing feud with heaven and hell, and humanity caught in the middle has always been necessary for the franchise to exist in the first place.
@@DemonKnight85 Even such idea is terrible for franchise and lore it is hard to even imagine. No just no ... it is not LGBT or other freaks wishing party . It is Diablo universe where opposing elements just don't have ANY love for other. Remember Sanctuary was created by Angels and Demons that had doubts about ongoing war. But there was plenty - in fact Huge Majority of Angels and Demons who were not looking for any reconcilation at all ever - for a pretty damn good reason. And can't blame them , lets be honest Demons want totally opposite to what Angels want - so in this case this isn't pointless war, but JUST war. Like World beating Nazi in WWII. Not all wars are pointless and bad. Sometimes you have to stand for what you believe in or lose EVERYTHING you hold dear.
Hard imagine any Angel having any sort of agrement with Diablo after what he has done ? Lets not count Izual as it wasnt agreement but outright betrayal.
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Man, after the events of Malthael defeated, left alot on the table for sanctuary! All of the prime/lesser evils souls are out and about, causing Hate, Terror, & Destruction some of the nephalem heroes from D3 are corrupted, maybe some of the nephalem are acting as vessels for the Prime Evils O.O -theory lol- and the good, might be doing something bigger. as for that, we getting that 2 class reveal at Blizzcon 2020, the rogue for sure! going to maybe have a similar weapon swap utility as the barb -using daggers and ranged weapons- and a Paladin, maybe built the faith morale by the Crusader from D3. A big maybe lol -AHHHHH Excited for D4
Blizzcon 2020 was cancelled: blizzcon.com/en-us/news/23434523
Theory before watching
Maybe Imperius finally dominated the council after Tyrael died from a natural cause as a mortal.
Imperius rebuilt the heaven and decided not to de with Sanctuary
I'd put money on it, yeah
Imperius petitioned the council to Build a wall around the High Heavens so high not even the Nephalem would be able to pass it!
Most likely.
How about Izual?
Didnt Tyreal become mortal? Well mortal... at least human, no longer an angel. So that would mean he is still on Sanctuary, especially after the behaviour of Malthael and being cast out by The Aspect of 'Valor', Imperius. Next to that like you said, harmony is required for the song. I wouldnt be surprised if they are still healing after what both Diablo and Malthael did to the harmony, the former corrupted the place the latter violated the contract of collaboration between the heavens themselves. However one can said that the harmony already started to crumble when Imperius gave into pride and anger. So what are the heavens missing? The aspect of Valor, the aspect of Wisdom AND the aspect of Justice. Thats a big hole in the harmony.
Dang it everything i wrote down, a few seconds later you talk about XD
Maybe this inner fight between the heavens is what allowed Lilith to make use of the opening and emptiness of power at both the Heavens and Hells?
Nah they confirmed he's in heaven
I’ve said something along these lines before, but it is inappropriate to kill Tyrael, essentially off-screen. “Oh yeah, when you weren’t looking, the only likable link to the previous entries was killed”. Even if they rebirth him as an angel, it’ll feel retconned to me. 😕
Fantastic stuff as always, Dash!
Rebirth him as the child of a female Nephalem. He's mortal, so he's subject to the cycle now, but he'd be reborn even more powerful than he was as an angel.
That's a scary thought
Killing it with the videos 👌🏽
So angels be on lockdown too...
Imperius ate a bat
@@DarkLOREDash I thought he loved cookies?
Why HEAVEN CLOSED its GATES?
Well fuck, even the afterlife is closed due to Covid, now all I can imagine are angels social distancing.
I actually thought the person in the grave he was speaking to during the monologue was the late Deckard Cain...especially when he referenced "brother". It seems like the game developers really have a deep seeded beef with Heaven. Because Heaven in this lure is depicted as very weak and the Angels easily corruptible and or manipulated and lots of infighting. Lilith makes it clear (in her diary) that she is fed up with her uncles (the 3 prime evils)...but she keeps such beef to herself...no infighting. And my guess is that now that Heaven's Gates are closed, only Hell under the rule, leadership, or cue of Lilith can save sanctuary with Naphthalene army under her command can defeat (or rule over) both Heaven and Hell. It's going to be a great deception end game nevertheless.
Looking forward to Mt Arreat :D
Soon!
You mean crater Arreat
Here's a theory, could the Heavens being closed have to do with Inarius' return from his imprisonment in Hell? He desperately wants to return to Heaven, so maybe they closed the gates, so to speak, to keep Inarius from Returning.
I would like for Imperious to open his eyes , and Becomes the Archangel of redemption / humility and voluntarily relinquish power.
It feels like a Trag’Oul level reset might be coming.
Love your videos they pretty much reignited my love for diablo....that said I feel it's like you mentioned heaven is without wisdom and justice so they are prolly just in a way in fighting definitely with imperious becoming wrath I think it would be cool if they revert back to kill all humans and are another threat
Besides Tyrael and some other vague hints of other angels (the enchantress’ teacher) angels didn’t have much to do with Sancutary I thought? So how does it change anything?
From what I gather, her "Prophet" was Inarius.
your voice makes me comfortable
I’m wondering if the game creators wanted to “fix” the Tyrael becoming a mortal situation and turn him back into the bad ass angel he was, so to do that they have had him die, allowing him to be reborn in heaven. That’s why they want harmony, to restore Tyrael perhaps?
This kind of vids make my hype grow and also make the waiting time soooo long 😭 so wait the council of angirius needs a new justice archangel? D: i thought Tyrael still was the justice and wisdom in his mortal form
Here's some speculation, the tall man from the trailer of Lilith's return is the Hero from D3.
Heaven is closed and out of balance, because the Archangel of Justice isn't present. Not even sanctuary was in balance, when the seat went vacant. Remember, the dead rose from their graves.
Here comes my angry neck-beard vent.
The problem with the dynamics of heaven and the way it's treated in Diablo III, at least from where I'm sitting, is that they took away the elemental nature of it. This is a quirk I see in a more than a couple franchises, like Supernatural for example. Hell is supposed to be the elemental embodiment of evil. It is and always should be, the raw, unbreakable, universal wellspring of all the terrible things in the universe. It is one half of an equation that governs the universe, the other half being Heaven, which naturally, should be the elemental source of all that is good. There was a mathematics too it. You could balance the equation from one side to the other, but they had to equal out at some point. This raw, unbreakable source of courage, wisdom, and compassion. It worked by the rules that seemed to govern the world of Diablo. Hell should never be able to destroy Heaven, and vice versa, and the farther you get from 0 (which we'll stick mankind here on this scale), the more difficult it should be to progress your influence.
Well in Diablo 3, and other franchises, instead of heaven being the opposite and equal end to that equation of good and evil, Heaven and it's angels appear as corrupt, malicious, fragile, and shockingly susceptible to hell's influence. So really, it's not the opposite of Hell at all. I like the Heaven portrayed in the previous Diablo games, distant, enigmatic, but existing as this counterbalance to Hell's influence. Not wanting to oppress mankind with it will, or at least being extremely calculating with it's intent, as we see in the actions of it's agents, such as Tyreal.
But, as Diablo 3 had shitty writers who didn't understand or couldn't write around the idea of the two polar opposite but codependent forces of heaven and hell, good and evil, they made the angels a bunch of weak, arrogant, stupid assholes. We never seem to see demons display mercy, or honor, or humility, so why do you expect me to buy it when you just make angels crappy humans with wings? Like Star Wars, Star Trek, and the later seasons of Game of Thrones, the creators didn't understand their franchises and it all reads like shitty fan fiction.
Also kinda hate the whole Nephalem "all powerful" arch.
I tend to agree on a lot of points. If not all courageous and infallible, leave them in a shroud of mystery
A good writer in the future will make Imperious having a character growth. Corrupted Imperious is already very tired trope, but Imperious making growth will be very novel.
huge +1 on pretty much everything you said. really makes you wonder how heaven was even able to resist against the onslaught of hell millenia ago before sanctuario even became a thing. with the way things appear in diablo 3, it should have been easy enough for demons to win long before anything we know in the games even came into existance. sure there's that excuse of "demon attacks always inevitably fail because they eventually start fighting each other when it looks like they're winning". but that seems like just a lazy excuse to me because in essence saying that is implying to agree that angels really are much weaker than demons by nature. and this then throws the entire concept of balance completely out.
overall, pre d3 i've always viewed angels as a bit more like space marines from wh40k. ultimately being the forces of virtue, light, and all that, but not all too concerned over the fate of individual humans and even willing and able to cut down those of their own who have been touched by corruption.
I hope the devs read this to understand how the fans of the franchise feel
I like videos with the length of 13:37.
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Here's my another theory...as the High Heavens closed its gate...Imperius remain in his domain...casting off the two angels Uriel and i forgot the other one...with Tyrael dead or either missing or assassinated by both side...Lorath will seek the help of the casted out angels..a new leadership led by Uriel.
Great vid m8, what class would you play first?
I mean... I want some form of Pally/crusader but if not barb. You?
Hopefully an Amazon makes the final cut
@@DarkLOREDash i think I start with sorceress
@@josephbrady711 After this PTR in D3, I would really love to see a Necromancer/Witch Doctor, though if the classes are bound to single sexes, it might be a deal breaker for me. That option is something I really love about the current game.
@@mackenziedrake perhaps the male of an Amazon could be like a Centurion.. shield and spear style
Anyone else think that Tyrael might be a secret agent from hell? If he was, it would not even be a plot twist at this point, all his actions have allowed the realm of hell to constantly harrass humanity.
I played with the idea but, it didn't mesh, unfortunately
Plus it would be like the third time "Tyrial" was a demon deceiving mortals. At the end of the first game the angel that tells you to implant the soulstone, that's just Diablo fucking with you, then again what's his name mistaking a disguised Baal for Tyrial. Just too redundant.
You should cover diablo hiegth
Can anyone tell me what does "Close the gate of Heaven" actually means? You said that there was no way to ask Heaven for help but when have they helped before? It was only Tyrael that was helping Sanctuary and not the Heavens so what was lost on Sanctuary by the Gates of Heaven closing?
nephlem serve the light what does imperious serve?
I do hope they'll let us CHOOSE the hero from diablo 3 that shows up. so we can maintain our headcanon.
It would be really bad writing if that were the case. If Tyrael was ousted after correctly siding with the force that defeats the prime evils, the heavens deserve to destroyed and there's no hope for that world. It would make sense that they would shut themselves off to recover and consolidate their forces though.
I don't see how Tyrael can be the aspect of wisdom when he's dumber than shit. He definitely seems a better fit for justice.
Also, I think there was some lore stuff that got screwed up in d3. Like they did stuff just for the sake of doing it (Tyrael staying human or somehow changing his aspect, etc.)
The aspect of wisdom definitely was confusing.
Lol weren't we on our own in 2? We got like, 2 angels that faffed around and made us do all the dirty work. Tyrael even charged us money to resurect our mercenaries. They didn't seem very helpful, even back then. :p
Heaven is closed for maintenance due to a recent demon outbreak, and corona virus.
The angels never really took a direct roll in events in Sanctuary it was usually just Tyreal acting in his own and I'm sure they are trying to replenish their ranks but I think the last point you made is the most likely reason.
Reaper of souls ended of a rather bleak note from Tyreal who is mankind's greatest supporter, even he felt doubt and fear towards the Neflem and what his power would mean for all realms.
The bonds build with heaven in Diablo 3 are tenuous indeed.
The real question is could they even close there gate. It was destroyed they have to rebuild it first.
they had enough of our shit it wasnt even their goddam job
Anyone else who doesn't want Imperius to be an emeny boss? We had an angel go mad already...
And maybe Tyreal can be knocked down a notch; being justice and wisdom makes him.... always right... which I've hated from the start. Maybe Imperius actually HAS a point and Wisdom Tyreal instead of just Justice, can now see his point clearly, which is why it is difficult to make the next decision and heaven has to be closed to figure it out. But Lilith is returning... time is running out...
Maybe I'm just opposed to a stereotypical hotheaded impulsive jerk as an enemy.
It would certainly be more interesting for Imperious to be redeemed in some way, but I don't see it happening. Not because it's impossible, but beceause this is a. Modern Blizzard, and B. Diablo... Happy endings like that are a bit off tone. I sppose if he had to sacrifice himself it would work a little better.
@@patrickbuckley7259 There is no more blizzard. It is only activision now.
I wonder if blizzard puts this much thought into the story...
Diablo 3. Diablo brings the high heavens to its knees because he had the power of all the primes in him. Can the Angels not do the same if they are contained like the prime evils? Imperius in order to seak greater power may try to contain the power of the heavens to seek revenge against the Nephelm and Diablo.
The writers just pulled a Force Awakens on this franchise
I don't really understand why people go soooo deeeep into game lore. I know Blizzard has quite extensive storylines but come on. Maybe heaven is closed because... they have enough? So much happened, they think nephalem is strong enough to protect the world? Meanwhile heaven is closed just to cure wounds and rethink everything? Or maybe they know it is not over, something evil is coming and they have not enough strength? Yes... simple, just like that. I really like your videos, you are wise man, especially when you talk about some characters like Zoltun, description of heroes etc. But really... don't... :D When it comes to storylines you just lost yourself in it.
I almost missed this Vid
They're obviously remodeling after D3. Diablo did alot of damage during his seige of the crystal arch. They'll return near or during the end of D4, watch. I wonder if Inarius is going to be freed & play some part in defeating Lilith. He could use a good redemption arc. Maybe replace Imperius. He's becoming somewhat of a lose cannon. I can definitely see him falling at some point & him needing to be taken care of.
We can't take Blizzard's lore as gospel. If Lilith were D4's true antagonist, player nephilim would literally be the bad guys according to lore, because she co-created Sanctuary to be a neutral ground free of Light and Dark influence.
So either Lilith is being retconned or players are disrupting the neutrality of Sanctuary.
Ever since the heavens found out about humanity they've (except Inarius (for obvious reasons) and Tyrael) been against humanity. They simply "helped" so the prime evils wouldn't control them for their side. They've never cared about humanity largely in part due to imperius but he lead the angiris council and they made decisions on behalf of all of the heavens, since he didn't care others kind of couldn't either. Even Inarius eventually stopped caring about humanity, which basically only left Tyrael as humanity's heavenly guardian. So when they say heavens have closed their gates it kind of just tells me the devs don't understand their own story fully, they've never really been open in the first place.
I want an Angel Based Class!!!!
To keep out the degenerates, of course.
Yeah, but now they're locked up with a drunk uncle.
Am I the only one who just doesn't think this is dark and gritty enough? I wish someone was focused on how this game makes you feel rather than how the skills work or what the lore is or how the animations flow. That stuff is all fine but it's not the dark and gritty Diablo style of games that I miss playing. I guess I'm just not the target audience anymore.
What if Deckard is now an angel somehow lol
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Diablo 3 messed up the story.. blizzard shouldn't have shown high heavens.. it should have remain a mysterious realm.. diablo story has become is ssoo complicated its boring.. and the hero in diablo 3 is overpowered.. i remember in diablo the hero is average; not too strong and not too weak thats why diablo became the game we all love, it should have been the same in all diablo games
I think that the Nephilim (our D3 hero) has had enough of all the BS, took over heaven and locked himself up in it to plot against all creation (heaven, hell, Sanctuary, Pandemonium, etc.). For this reason Rathma himself had to come out and free Lillith because she is our only hope for salvation.
I think only a few decades is way to short of a time to have passed between the games, especially since 90% of the population has perished. Sanctuary is at this point like a post apocalyptic world. I would have given the world way longer time to heal and then forget the darkness that engulfed the world and even the story in d2 and d3 is only a legend and myth in which Lilith would be plotting her thing. It just doesn't make sense to me but that's just my opinion.
I know why because we don’t have keys to open it and to open the gate we need to die
Who's got Tyreal's sword? It will open anything.
So what happens to people when they die? Do the go to hell guaranteed?
That is not quite how Heaven or Hell works in the Diablo universe..
There is also the spirit world the witch doctor communes with even more than the necromancer does. That seems to be where most would have normally gone, possibly to be reborn.
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imperious is a giant coward and he's probably hiding behind the gates because his bruised ego can't handle the fact the nephalem did what he could not.
*Izual* ...that shithead told the 3 brothers about Soulstones and how to corrupt them :(
I bet you Inarius closed the gates since Lilith is back and he doesn't have the child support money ready yet.
Diablo in diabli 3 looks a little strange nothing like the one yku see i dibalo1 or 2
I don't even remember the story of Diablo 3.... I played it but hated it once I was done with it. Diablo 3 felt so dumbed down on builds and instead made it a Uber Chad simulator with shitty wow graphics. I'm soooo looking forward to Diablo 2 remaster!!
How does heaven close it's gate after having it destroyed 😂
So, I hope whatever happens either Imperius get a redemption arc, where he apologizes to us and to TYREAL, recognizing he was right(mostly) this whole time....or we get to kill the bastard with his own spear. Seriously words cannot express how much I wanted to kill him in Act 4 and how I wish they would have made him the villian of RoS.
Anywho, I think you nailed it about the heavens. They need to restore their ranks and numbers, but I bet they wont be able to. Imperius is so out of tune he could be a pop star. Without (real) wisdom to guide the angels will not get organized. So they will just close and wait. The hells are silent for the moment, so they dont have to act now, yet it would seem the best time, if they took over the hells they may could stop the Evils the instant they respawn.
Somehow the angels always seem to make the wrong decision, yet fall forward. I think if they challenge the nephalim they will regret it, but I bet thats where the story goes. Either Hell and Heaven unite against the nephalim, or we have to ally with hell to help defeat heaven, then Diablo will somehow trick a nephalim and steal his body/power, final boss mode activated.
They are remodeling, they got f*ed up by diablo. They were like ok we just need to remodel the gates so they are not as weak. Might open this fall. LOL
Okay, now that I have my tinfoil hat on... What if... Apart from the prime evils, the High Heavens will be the enemy? It's been established that they are just as big of a bastards as the demons and after what happened in D3 maybe they retaliate? Dunno, but I have a feeling Lilith is not associated neither with the burning hells or the high heavens. (I don't follow the lore for a few years now so please correct me if I'm wrong about something).
No, I hope that happens. Heaven and Hell gang up
@@DarkLOREDash Me too. Would certainly put Lilith into an interesting place in all this and at the same time break away from the traditional angels r gud gais dogma.
@@Pixx2266 Honestly I hate the Angels have to be dicks in everything (except for MAYBE just one Good Guy, who always dies) it's dumb and overdone. Seriously Just having Angels be beings of pure goodness and righteousness would be the more origional take at this point.
Imperius is undoubtedly quite a dick, though to me he feels kinda like Bakugo from boku no hero. Severe anger issues, but after cooling his jets and having some sense smacked into him, quite a reasonable dude in the end.
That being said, I don't really mind one way or the other, whether he stays good or ends up evil. I just want Inarius to return as an angel.
If Inarius remains uncorrupted, then he is certainly worthy.
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The angels have failed so they should be destroyed so that they can renew
(obviously not targeted towards you) It's so fucking stupid how the birth/rebirth of angels and demons is so unbalanced. The angels require other angels to bring someone back, but even then it's a different being. Meanwhile, demons just reform eventually with all their powers and memories intact.
Honestly, not even sure what "the gates are closed" really means considering how little a role the heavens play in the mortal world.
I think it's the whole "team work makes the dream work" fable. The brothers 3 never can sustain it & angels strive to hold it. But the fact it's so broken makes demons OP
@@DarkLOREDash exactly! And with the origin of all things being that they came from equal portions of the same being, it doesn't make sense. It should then give some other advantage to angels...other than wings.
But then, lore was better when it was just the first two games and it was more grounded and less cosmic and grand.
Heaven closed its gates??
As far as I know.. It was destroyed by Diablo with the use of Leah.. Right??
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Well I may be the one, but I really hope this around for once Angels stop being shit and so and actually for once get shit done and be major force they ARE MEANT TO BE. So far Demons always push the narrative and straightforward stomp Angels - heck almost destroying them completely in D3. It is now or never Angels actually kick some Demon ass. I know game is about player killing Demons , but lets be honest Tyrael and not only - as Angeris Council didnt decide to destroy Sanctuary are not bad guys - they are good. How the hell can you blame them for even looking at Nephalem with prejudice in first place is beyond me. Imagine fighting Demons for eternity - seeing them killing your brothers and sisters daily. And what now ... you treat thier offspring with Angel as sudden innocent allies ? Heck I have to say Heavens really went super soft on Sanctuary.
It really sucks that Angels are not shown to kick some ass of late.
Honestly ... I don't like Tyrael becoming human. I have nothing against humanity - rotfl I'm one myself haha. But what was so damn wrong about having ally that ain't Human ? And yes he was humanity ally before he mortal. Which kinda also irks me, I get why he rejected Angel powers - but at same time it was stupid - he was insanely powerful Archangel - who knows maybe most powerful and that power could be used for good. Dismaring yourself just to prove point is at best questionable.
i don't watch much of this lore stuff but why is it all the good guys in this are idiots and all the evil are genius seems alittle one sided when they are both idiots if they think the player wont always be more good or the most evil of all what about that.