I didn't feel that way at all when I gave it that title. I really felt it reflected the opening of the video when I spoke of how I noticed my friends aggressive attitude towards it. Seems many disagreed, however.
I bought my Mega Drive in late 1990 and after I bought the SNES around mid '92. It was a fun time. I was glad that I could have both systems at home. Playing Mario kart with my family and playing Street of Rage with my father were the best memories from that time.
Haha, I love the fact that you're so reasonable and non-partisan despite your channel name "Sega Lord X"....certainly not the impression one would get from the name. Nice video.
I wanted BOTH a Genesis and Super Nintendo for Christmas when I was a kid. Sadly for me, my mother couldn't afford either one back then. But I enjoyed the NES as a kid a lot. After that, my next console was a Nintendo 64 back in '98.
Same I got a genesis from a pawn shop in the mid 90s, and my main gaming device before was my old gameboy which I still have. My First system I could really enjoy was the Dreamcast.
To me that era was the pinnacle of gaming. 2 systems that were equally great yet each system had their own distinct strengths. I don't think that has happened again. Not to mention 2 systems with unique fantastic exclusives. My allegiance is towards the Genesis but the SNES is my third favorite system. Oh what an era of rivals pushing each other to new heights of excellence.
Wrong, the answer is Tiger electronic games. Those are the best games. Much better than consoles of even the current era. The Tiger electronic games were enhanced gaming experiences compared to their console counterparts. Much more replay value and immersive experience.
It was truly the pinnacle of gaming culture and I feel so fortunate to have lived it. I think one of the things we didn't realize at the time as that in the battle between Sega and Nintendo, we, the gamers, were the winners!
I love this video. The concept of a “fanboy” never made sense to me. Why hate another console just because you don’t have it. While not everyone can have the means to own multiple consoles that doesn’t make their offerings any less viable or entertaining. While I was more of a SNES kid growing up I did still appreciate the Genesis and had one for the great experiences I could only get on Sega’s console. I was proud to own both and still regularly play both to this day.
Once again you echo my sentiments. I'm a die-hard Sega fan first and foremost but when the SNES/Super Famicom came out there were titles there I couldn't miss out on and I'm glad I didn't because it opened my eyes to some of the amazing titles Nintendo produced. It was an era like you say where both machines complemented each other and they both had equal placing under the TV. Two games manufacturers vying for our attention with great software.
And that's the kind of comment I don't see on anyone else's videos, common sense comments like yours. No, it's Genesis does this, Genesis does that, SNES sucks and all that stupid shit. Mel's videos are where the console folk come together and talk some sense about good gaming, no matter the console. I own both consoles these days, and have a healthy library of close to 200 games for both consoles, it pains me to see some of the crappy comments I see on other videos, and more and more Genesis fanboys are getting vocal, when I see few if any SNES fanboys being vocally abusive towards Genesis fanboys. I think few of the fanboys for either side were alive, or old enough to appreciate the games for both consoles, but I'm nearing my mid 40's, and I just want to slap the fanboys for both sides for the stuff they pull. I've been called a Nintendo fanboy for sticking up for the SNES,when the fools don't realize I own 3 Sega consoles, over 50 games for the Saturn, 179 for the Genesis/MD, and 24 SMS games. Yeah I have 186 SNES/SFC games, and over 330 NES/FC games, but a lot of that was acquired when NES games were cheaper, and not going for the super priced SNES stuff, while most of my Genesis stuff was acquired when Genesis games were dirt cheap, before they started to succumb to theprice increase SNES games have seen.
@@captstrugglebunny We didn't really argue, either, but some would do that in school. I eventually bought a Genesis, and it then became they want to come over all the time.
Same here as well. It meant that I wasn't missing out on those great super Nintendo games. I actually miss those days when Friday meant renting games an getting pizza an having your friends stay over for some great gaming moments.
I went from NES to Genesis. My best friend had a SNES. After that I got an N64 and he got a Playstation. We would argue about which was better, but we dang sure switched back and forth and played the exclusives. We also played the hell outta PS2 and GameCube.
Even when the Nintendo 64 had come out in 1996, I still wanted a SNES for Christmas that year because of all my cousins having one when they were younger. ;)
Although both have fun, SNES was better overall than the N64. So you got a good deal: and at that point you had the pick of the litter, game wise, and price wise. And I think the SNES aged better.
You summed up my feelings about the era perfectly. I was a owner of both systems and was always anxious to play the systems I didn't have the TurboGrafx 16 (really wanted to play YS Books 1 & 2 and Dracula X) and the super expensive Neo-Geo. I think the 4th generation of gaming was definitely my favorite.
Great episode. I had both consoles growing up, but I did tend to lean more to the SNES once I got it. I loved that sound chip, and was easily impressed by the Mode 7.
When you have legendary individuals like Ken Kutaragi, and Shigeru Miyamoto as key people behind a console system, then you know this machine (the Super Nintendo) was a SERIOUS challenger to the title of 16 bit King of the World..and the rest is history...
As a kid I grew up mostly with Nintendo systems. I didn't had any console but played a lot with my cousins and friends. And sure I had a lot of fun with those games. Played the Genesis in late 2000s for the first time because I traded a NES I had for like 2 years, and my first game was Streets of Rage 2. Since then I became a Sega fan, but of course still loving what Nintendo did.
Wow! You hit the nail right in the head! I was one of the NES kids who got the Genesis and completely broke rank lol. The bit wars were real and i am so happy to have been a part of them. I even begged for the 32X in order to stay ahead of the curve on the bus ride to school which thanks to MK2 i feel was accomplished since the SNES port while good, was completely inferior to the 32X port. Wow, look at me still fighting lol.
This is one of the biggest reasons I like watching your videos. You have a great delivery and perspective on gaming. I have quite a few older systems myself. When I was a kid and especially now, I see how good it was to have been able play so many great games. Always looking forward to watching!
You know Sega Lord the most awesome days of my childhood were playing snes and mega drive. I didnt had a mega drive but my neighboor and friend had one and every afternoon specially on the weekends we always had a blast. It was how i knew Toe Jam and Earl, Sonic, Golden Axe. Man i miss those days holy shit.
Thanx to emulation, not only can i have access to NEOGEO and my old collection i sadly had to sell in hard times - but im now enjoying some mode7 action and can appreciate it much more than i would of back then...
Bravo! This was yet another excellent video, my friend. You really captured the era of those days with both systems. This video really brought me back to a really cool time in gaming. Well done!
If I had to choose between owning one of these systems in current times, it would be the SNES. A big part of what made the Genesis so appealing back then were Sega's arcade conversions, but now you can obtain the arcade versions of most of these games pretty easily, making the Genesis ports less appealing. Same/same with the sports games; I'd rather play Madden on a current gen console than play it on the Genesis. And I don't think that Sonic has the staying power that Mario has. Of course, I'm not trying to start a pissing contest here, as both systems are classics, and I certainly don't hate the Genesis.
The console wars bypass me, I had picked up the Master System and the NES with allowance funds I had saved over time. By the time the Genesis showed up I was 19 and had a job (while still living at my parents), so I had disposable cash. I bought myself the Sega 16 bit console and later got the SNES when it launched. Great experiences were had on both systems. If the Turbografx 16 had gained more traction in the U.S. I might have picked it up too; in fact I recall playing one for about an hour and a half one weekend when NEC was doing a mall tour. The local mall had a kiosk setup with several T-16s with various games. I got hooked on Bonk, it was only after I left to go home that I had realized I was wearing a Super Mario themed shirt; the people running the kiosk must have gotten a kick out that.
Man Sega Lord X, you hung out with some fanboys from the sounds of it! I only got 2 minutes into the original version before it got taken down (yes, I know why and support the change) so I am watching the rest now. I grew up a military brat so I guess my experience was radically different. Sure there were SNES and Genesis households but it was common for us to trade systems for a month or so just so we could play the others exclusive games, it was also not uncommon to run into a TG-16, PC-FX, or even Sharp X68000 house due to people being stationed over seas. We all appreciated the games for what they were, regardless of the system and would go to each others house just to play a new release; I had a SNES at first but went to a friends house who had a Genesis because he got the new MKII, we just wanted to play. I never understood the mentality of fanboys, and I still don't to this day. Guess some people never let the Console Wars of the 90's go, eh? Good to see another level headed person.
Sweet SNES retrospective!!! It is my favorite console next to the Saturn!! I was going to get a Genesis at the time, but after seeing Super Mario world and Final Fight I grabbed that instead. I did pick up a Nomad later and got to experience all the Sega Genesis goodness!!!
I count myself among the combat veterans of the 16 bit wars in the Sega camp. Upon receiving my first paycheck I went out and got a haircut...and a Super Nintendo. To this day the old war horses sit peacefully next to each other...former enemies, now comrades. I play them nearly every day and love them both dearly!
the SNES is my number 1 console of all time. No console can get a better line up of games with such titles like DKC2, Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, Super Mario World, FF VI, Secret of Mana, Mario RPG, Super Mario Kart.... its just insane!!! But, I liked the Genesis very much too! The main Sonic games on this console are simply iconics!
Console wars were there to lessen the sting of not being able to afford both consoles. These days, owning 3 of each snes and MD due to region variations, I can say that I find the ones who disregard either or, due to the console war of old, are missing out on fantastic things. I was a SEGA kid due to budget and chance, but i would have loved both machines back in the day
I won a mega drive in 1992, with Sonic 2. It was a blow, it was very cool and for me at the time, better than everything I had in Super Nintendo. But in the following years all the games that went out for the two platforms were superior in Snes. Even so in 1994 buy the Sega-CD. In the 32bits era I was with the Playstation, given that Sega was not able to launch as many cool guys as it was in the 16-bit era. When it was ready to return to Sega, with Dreamcast, it was discontinued. However, if today I like electronic games and I am enthusiastic in its evolution, credits will always be from Sega.
I love your attitude and positivity in this video. I, too, had a SNES, Genesis, and TG16 during the nineties, and I must say, that era truly was the golden age of gaming. Truly incredible times.
I had Mega Drive as a kid, but I was always little jealous for my Nintendo friends who got the great SNES titles like Mario, Zelda, Mega Man, Donkey Kong Country and Castlevania. I loved the games I had on Sega, but I always felt like I was missing out by not being able to play the big Nintendo exclusives. Now I've come to appreciate Sega more as I better understand what they were doing with the Mega Drive and the depth of its game library. As a kid I only ever knew about the games I saw in a game store when my mom would take me to one. And it wasn't often! Now that I'm collecting for the system I've discovered so many great titles that I never even knew about back then. Nintendo had great games as well and thankfully I've been able to go back and play most of the games I missed from that side back in the day. Overall I prefer Sega, but you really couldn't go wrong no matter which one you picked in those days.
It's true, I loved both, but preferred NIntendo as they had the sort of games I wanted to play (Zelda/Mario etc), but I enjoyed the edgier games on Megadrive when I was in that mood.
AVGN started off as Angry Nintendo Nerd, too. But later he achieved enormous success by branching out to other console brands. Perhaps Sega Lord X can, too, achieve previously unfathomed levels of fame by being more inclusive of other famous video game hardware manufacturers. RESPECT!
Well, "SNES Drunk" sort of has had the same approach. He's loyally faithful to the SNES being great and knows its library incredibly well - but from time-to-time, talks about "what games were better on Genesis" or generally covers SEGA/Steam/etc games. I see Sega Lord X going down the same route -- really, it's inevitable, if he ONLY does Sega content he's going to run out of material before long, especially since they aren't really doing that much nowadays.
Great vid, man! I remember being somewhat exclusive to Nintendo back in the day. Then a neighbor turned me on to Phantasy Star, Sonic, and various other titles on the Genesis, while I did the same for him with Nintendo and none other than Super Mario World. We spent a better part the next year trading consoles back and forth. And teaming on one or the other. That was a very good year, and it made me a very happy Sega fan as well. My most played consoles to this day are the Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast, and tons of retro Sega titles on my Xbox One, and PS2 . This was a great reminder of some really great times, and brought some shit back.... Thanks man😁.
Enjoyable video. Final Final SNES is a great game despite being cut. It is still extremely frantic and challenging, it's more an impression of the arcade game rather than a direct port. And yes, SNES and Mega Drive complimented each other perfectly.
@@vasileios6301 indeed. If released even a year later it would have had all content. It's the same with Super SF2. People always comment that the Mega Drive version has some extra animation but don't understand it's a bigger cart so has more space for data!
I find it weird to hear about competition between the NES and Genesis from Americans. AVGN said the same in some of his videos. That didn't happen here in Ireland. When the Mega Drive (Genesis) came out, nobody talked about the NES competing with it. The Mega Drive was light years ahead of it. It was Mega Drive vs SNES and NES vs Master System. I think there was a shorter duration between when the Mega Drive and SNES coming out here (18 months instead of 2 years), so that's probably why. We had the same little groups in our school - the Sega Gang and Nintendo Gang. It's funny how this happened in schools all around the world. I was both a Sega owner (Master System) and Nintendo owner (SNES). Although, I pretty much played all the consoles cos whatever I didn't have, my friends had. I think looking back - at the time I liked both the Mega Drive and SNES equally, but I think as time has lapsed - the SNES has aged better and I find myself going back to playing it more than the Mega Drive.
Sean Ó Brian I only knew 1 person who had a Nes and the same with the Master System, everyone else either had a Mega Drive or Amiga, i only knew 1 other person besides myself who bought a Snes when it came out! (from England btw)
I'm in the US and I had never seen or heard of the Master System until the mid 2000's. In your region weren't you more into the gaming computers back then as well? The NES was super popular here. So was the Genesis and SNES.
@@CrustyRetro, the Master System was more popular in Europe than the NES. Yes, PCs were more popular but the Master System came and had power not available on PCs at the time. Top Hat Gaming has videos about that subject.
My experience of the 16-bit generation came primarily via the odd session at friend's houses, bee-lining it to store displays etc. as I went NES-PC-N64 etc. - I would however play a LOT of games via SNES9X etc. in the late 90's and I would get to experience games like Doom, X-Wing etc. on PC that were't technically possible on the consoles (well, they did a port of Doom on the SNES, but it was abysmally bad, even with an add-on chip). Never understood the whole schoolyard console rivalry thing (though it was very minimal at my school), as I could see that each console had its strengths and weaknesses, and both had good games. Seemed like a whole lot of post-purchase rationalization to me.
I owned a Genesis first and then a SNES. I got hit with a retro-gaming bug earlier this year and stopped playing any new games in favor of 16-bit ones. Mostly Genesis though, because to me, it has aged better. Things like Mode 7 and super low quality sample based music with a shit-town of reverb, no longer impress at all, I can see Donkey Kong Country for the dumb-down Mario clone that it is and Star Fox is unplayable. Really like the speed snd craziness of the Genesis action games and appreciate the good implementation of the FM synthesis sound though.
I've always been a Nintendo guy but I did get to play quite a bit of Sega Genesis back in the day. I do consider myself a "fanboy" but I never had anything against rival companies, and I do own a couple of non-Nintendo consoles. I understand kids arguing which is better because that's what kids do, but I've always been able to appreciate all the consoles even if I have my preferences. Hidden gems for the SNES will always have my jam but lately I've developed a bit of a craving for Sega games that I missed out on. Thank you Sega Lord X for all the information.
Man this is so true, my neighbor had a genesis (mega drive here) and I had a snes, it was so cool to check each system on it uniqueness. Video game Marketing was never a thing on my country, so console wars was a surprise for me when browsing the internet for the first time
I was lucky enough to have both systems as a child; I love both of them. But, like you Sega Lord X, I'm more a Sega kid than anything else. Love how you are expanding horizons talking about other systems. Keep on.
Well said. I didn't go platform agnostic until the PS2/Gamecube/Xbox era. Now that I'm an adult and have my own disposable income I'll give any machine a chance as long as there are some games that interest me on it, even retro consoles.
I was a Sega kid back then for sure who loved his Genesis to death, but all that changed when I saw the SNES for the first time when my neighbor got it for Xmas of 91.. I was particularly blown away by Super Castlevania IV.. I had to have it, so I proceeded to save every penny from my meager allowance, saved every dollar from mowing many lawns and washing so many cars and was finally able to purchase one in the spring of ‘92... I’m glad I did that because my brother and I were able to enjoy so many games back then. NINTENDO definitely gained my respect with the SNES!!!
I appreciate your point of view due to your ownership of the various consoles; I think most people would root for whatever system they were used to playing on, not knowing what they may be missing on a 'rival' console.
The 16bit generation is my favorite and I too embraced all three platforms. Being able to play any title regardless of platform was the best way to approach things and it is how I still game today.
I was mostly a Nintendo fan as a kid, however Sega has one of the best games of all time, Streets of Rage 2. My friend had it on his Sega Megadrive(in Europe) and I was blown away by the smooth action, I still play it quite often, it just never gets old. Oh and the music is so good in that game, maybe one of the best, if not the best soundtrack on Megadrive/Genesis. While Snes games often sound better(imo), some sounds such as bass are better on Sega and I think Sor2 is a great example of that!
The SNES had so many all-time classics like Super Metroid, F-Zero, Earthbound, and many more. Although I am more of a SEGA fan I will always consider the Super Nintendo to be one of the greatest systems of all time. The SNES and the Mega Drive/Genesis will always be equal to me in terms of quality, which one you like more comes down to preference.
I honestly didn't think I could handle watching another Nintendo Vs. Sega video in my life. However, as someone who was fortunate enough to have both SNES and Genesis in their household I really appreciate your take on this.
The difference in sales between them was mainly because of Japan. The Super Famicom sold a lot there. The Genesis sold more in the US, but it wasn't enough for facing the massive sales on the eastern side of the world.
@UC3h-V8HZeOpC9IlUxlmZwLw Just like Mark III, the Mega Drive had no chance in Japan due to Nintendo hogging most of the local AAA third party devs in extremely restrictive exclusive contracts which were later found to be illegal and monopolistic by a court. Companies like Konami and Capcom couldn't publish Genesis games until 1992. With Nintendo's domination of the 8-bit market and monopolistic practices, it's a miracle that Genesis was this successful... a true underdog success story. For the first two years West, it was carried on the strength of Sega arcade brand, superior sports games and excellent marketing.
^ this Nintendo success is half for good reasons (a few good hardwares and some genuinely great games here and there) but also half for bad reasons (illegal monopoly during the 8 and early 16-bit days, flooding the market with cheap hardwares (the handhelds in particular but also the Wii, Wii U or Switch (well, the latter do both but whatever you get the point)...). I have much more respect towards Sega or Sony although there's at least one good thing with Nintendo cheapo handhelds: it's nice for kids who aren't always careful with their stuff.
I had in order. The Atari 2600, NES, Genesis, Gameboy, *PC,* Playstation, *PC upgrade,* Playstation 2, *New PC,* X box, *New PC,* Wii, New PC (again) & PS3. Now just upgraded PC only. I loved the rivalry between the 16bit consoles. But I loved both. _(My best friend and I would swap Genesis & SNES often because we both wanted new games to play. Same with the PS1 & N64)_
I was a nes fan and didnt plan on getting a genesis until i played sonic. But eventually I got a genesis then snes and always wanted a tg16 back then and a neo geo. Never was a fanboy of systems but I have my favorite games on each system. All systems of that era are worth owning.
With my friends, it was never a fight. It was more like, "I have a SNES." "Oh, I have a Genesis." "Shit! Let's go to each other's houses and play each other's games!" I'm an SNES fan, but to dismiss the Genesis, TG16, or PC, was and remains foolish.
Back in the day, I got a NES and (later) a SNES; those two are the only video game consoles I have ever owned to this day. A cousin was the first from all people I knew who got a Sega Genesis, and most of the times I got to play some Genesis games it was because of him. All those who were fortunate enough to own both consoles literally had the best of both worlds.
1:05 ive recently gotten into retro gaming, so i didn't even grow up with this. I decided i was going to go the clone console route because i could get multiple consoles all in one. I was going to go with just a nes and snes console, but last minute decided id go for one that also has a genesis port. Boy was that a good idea, because now i have more genesis games than nes and snes. I want to focus on my snes collection a little, as i dont have much for it, (thats why im here actually.)but either way, I've found a surprising amount of games i like on the genesis. Idk, if i had to choose one being better now, surprisingly, ill say genesis.
Your philosophy of open-mindedness is EXACTLY the kind of thing I too, personally feel strongly about,and wholeheartedly agree with. I never let bias get in the way of my ability to enjoy anything and everything I give a chance and feel is worthy.
Well said SLX. I was a SNES owner first and loved it. Still remains my favourite system to this day. That said, my neighbour had a megadrive and I loved that too - I played it more than my brothers N64 in the next gen (having discovered beer and women by then). Today I’ve got both and a PC Engine to boot. Love them all. Gen 4 was incredible.
I was a Sega kid first and Nintendo kid second growing up. Between both systems, I had a Genesis. My only experience with the Super NES back then was playing it while visiting with my cousins, renting it, or playing ROMs on an emulator. I didn't have any Nintendo hardware until the Nintendo 64 launched. I eventually got a Super NES, and I only have four games for it: Super Mario World, Super Mario All-Stars, Secret of Mana, and Mega Man X. I have far more Genesis games, but not shelves and shelves of them. My library is curative, with games I know I'll play.
People have to remember how split the videogame community was back then. I grew up in the 70's and 80's where brandnames were almost everything. You either owned a Sega something or a Nintendo do-hicky. And these two sides argued as if the fate of the universe was at stake.lol turbo grafx was seen as a third party wanna be trying to cash in on the videogame craze, nobody I knew had one. Most games I didn't recognize. Again names and brand names of popular well known games was critical to being successful back then. It seems foreign as to how split the two sides were in the day. I bought my genesis in 89' because I was a big Sega arcade fan. They were the best games at the time and I wanted that experience home. It was may first gaming system that I bought with my own money. Back then with limited income you choose a console/game and stuck with it. That meant brand loyalty usually. I wasn't interested in the snes until Star Fox. I saw the commercial and was blown away by it. I simply had to have that game! I bought a used snes and a few games for it including SF. After that I respected the snes and what it could do (although most of its magic comes from chips in the cart and not actual system hardware). With better color, sound and scaling abilities everyone argued that the snes was better, and it wasn't a bad argument. The abilities of the snes can't be denied. However, there is one angle that few ever considered and still don't to this day. The genesis was pushing polygons, natively since 89'. Games like M1 Abrams, LHX, F-117, Mig-29, Strike Eagle 2, Kawasaki racing all were polygon or had polygon usage. Everyone focuses on VR racing on the genesis as segas response to the fx chip at Nintendo. In fact, the genesis had already been using polygons in its simulation series of games for years. Also what isn't brought much either is that yes, the genesis could scale, backgrounds. Panorama Cotton is proof of what the genesis could do when pushed!! Its pretty impressive and i couldn't believe it was a genesis game. So, superiority is sort of in the eye of the beholder to a degree. Each system had advantages and disadvantages, strengths and weaknesses. Two approaches to the same market that gamers benefited greatly from. We don't see that as much today with so many cross platform games and systems very similar in specs and technology. It was an exciting time to be a gamer back then, I do miss those days.
I was an early adopter of both consoles. I didn't import a Super Famicom, but I wanted to. I followed its development through gaming mags and was excited for its launch. I still regard the Geneais as my favorite 16 bit system, but I loved the Snes and the TG 16 a helluva lot. Great video. Good for you for being so open-minded. Wish gamers did not discourage the desire to enjoy all systems. the 16 bit era was absolutely my favorite console gen.
I am 45 years old, and I bought my first sega genesis in 1990 used for $85, and got the super Nintendo on the release month, and agree with you 100% that they both had different qualities and it made it worth buying them both to enjoy two different system's. I felt that the SNES was a higher quality system in that the stereo sound output of my genesis thru my Dolby Prologic 5 speaker stereo was not as good as the SNES. I disliked having to use a headphone plug to r/l RCA outputs with the Genesis. I personally felt the SNES was a bit superior but had fewer games. I enjoyed your video, as I always do. God bless.
As a kid, I honestly asked for all three systems for Christmas. I played a Turbografx before I played a Genesis, and I was an avid NES player, so the Genesis was realistically third on my list for excitement at the time. Truthfully, though, I was going to be absolutely thrilled no matter what system I would end up having. It ended up being a Super Nintendo that I'd own during its actual heyday, but that never stopped my wanting, well, all of them. The only time I ever engaged in those schoolyard arguments was when it became Sonic vs Mario. I'm just not a huge Sonic fan, so it was easy to pick a side for me. I never understood why anyone felt the need to be all Nintendo or all Sega, though. Among my friends, all of the console wars nonsense was accompanied by whispers of the Neo Geo, which was basically if mythical porportions, and at best someone knew a friend of an acquaintance that supposedly owned one. Those were special times.
Nice episode SLX! Although I only have one bit of feedback. When you praise a game's soundtrack, it makes sense to let us listen to a couple of seconds of music from said game. It's the commentative equivalent of describing a game without any screenshots or gameplay clips.
Nice thing about both the Mega Drive and Super Nintendo (and actually most systems until the PS3/360), was that the game systems were very different , from the hardware to the game library. It was always interesting to go to a friend's house to try games that you never played on your system. In my case I only had a PC at that time, so it was always interesting to go to and play NES or MD games that were wildly different to what I was playing on the PC. Nowadays I probably like the Mega Drive more, as I also like the Sega style of gameplay, but there is no denying the SNES is great.
I was one of those who jumped from NES to Genesis. I still love the Genesis the most but I was always a huge closet SNES fan. I wish I could have owned both back in the days.
My 'go to' games on the Genesis were Space Harrier II, Golden Axe, Phantasy Star 2 and 3, Populous (man, I sunk so much time into that game), Starflight, Might and Magic (actually a port of M&M II), Target Earth (man is that game hard!) and Alisha Dragoon.
I really wish I could of been a teenager/young adult during the 16-bit era. As good as games and technology are now I can't help but feel like I missed out on a really special time in gaming. Anyways, great video!
Had both the Genesis and the SNES in my house growing up. Loved them both. When I was younger, I preferred the Genesis because it had Sonic and Streets of Rage, but the SNES had too many amazing games for me to deny its excellence. The catch was that I HAD all the best games on the Genesis (that I knew about), and I'd only RENTED a lot of my favourite games on the SNES. So I kept going back to S3&K and Toejam and Earl, and kept wishing I could play Yoshi's Island, SMRPG, or DKC2 or 3 again. And then I got a 3DO!
I was one of those rare families that had both a Genesis and Super Nintendo, so I never even knew about the Console War until the internet became more readily accessible to everyone
I was the same way, man! I still am. I've played every console since Atari 2600. There are TOO many amazing games to offer on all the platforms. Subbed! 🖖👽
I LOVED the fact that we could get both experiences at the same time.. 16-bit era was to me the golden age of gaming! The kids that argued about it usually couldn't afford or weren't allowed to own both 😂
I respect the way you took down your original video because the title was to controversial. That's some integrity you shown right there. RUclips needs more of that.
It made me happy that you included FF4 in the list. It is one of my favourite games of all time :) I usually play through it at least once a year. My run last year was the PSP version, I think I’ll run through the steam version this year.
I had an SNES, but I didn't own one until 16-bit consoles were already in decline. I went straight from 8-bit to getting a PC. I actually bartered for my Super Nintendo. I had recently gotten a Soundblaster-16, and no longer needed the sound card I was replacing. My next door neighbor's PC lacked any kind of sound card, so he traded me straight across for it and all of this games. It wasn't a bum deal for him though, because he could finally get to experience PC games as they were meant to be played. The Sound card was also where the controller port were located. So once you had one, you could use a gamepad, or a flight stick, and really enjoy those games.
A rewatch for me. So many great memories. I liked shooters bu they weren't my top games, I preferred platformers, which is why I liked NIntendo. Sonic was great, such a different sort of platformer, which complimented the collecting type of Mario.
I think it was a little funny that you showed Earthworm Jim when talking about multi-platform games that were equals. That one has some nasty problems on the Super Nintendo, lol. Maybe a better example would've been the sequel. Very fun episode though, it's cool to see how you liked both because they offered different experiences.
i was a snes kid ,only because i couldn't afford both . donkey kong country was a real gem on the nintendo .. but sega had that arcade feel to it . . it took me almost a year of pushing lawnmowers to afford the sega with streets of rage 2 and thunder force 4 .. my back was broke ,but it was worth it :)
I had both Sega and Nintendo consoles growing up, I was fortunate. But I preferred Nintendo because I was big into RPGs. And the SNES really came thundering in hard with them. Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy II & III (IV & VI, whatever), Illusion of Gaia, Lufia II, etc. But I absolutely still loved Genesis games like Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, Splatterhouse 2, etc.
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I thought this was called:Does the Super nintendo suck? lol
It was until people just read the title without watching the video and instantly passed judgement
It was The Super Nintendo.....Sucks? I explain why in the description and why I changed it.
Right, you're right the original title did sound abit clickbaitesque.
Cool vid btw.
I didn't feel that way at all when I gave it that title. I really felt it reflected the opening of the video when I spoke of how I noticed my friends aggressive attitude towards it. Seems many disagreed, however.
Sega Lord X and SNESDrunk are like the Genesis/Megadrive and SNES of our day, perfect compliments to each other!
And just like back in the early 90s, I love them both the same
@@AnthonyRiddle snesdrunk is a cokehead
@@samuelstyles5031 and?
You cannot believe how often I already thought that! The 2 best retro gaming channels here on RUclips!
I bought my Mega Drive in late 1990 and after I bought the SNES around mid '92. It was a fun time. I was glad that I could have both systems at home. Playing Mario kart with my family and playing Street of Rage with my father were the best memories from that time.
wow such good times, I was not even born that year
Merino kart was a classic!
My merino kart shrunk in the wash
I got the SNES first and later the genesis when it was pretty inexpensive. They both had their own cool things.
Haha, I love the fact that you're so reasonable and non-partisan despite your channel name "Sega Lord X"....certainly not the impression one would get from the name. Nice video.
I like peach jam.
@TrueSinister my shoes are missing.
@@jacobprayer8656 irrelevant and not amusing or remotely funny. what else you got?
@@chivalrous_chevy1163 Stop crying
@@jacobprayer8656 who's crying? I'm not.
I wanted BOTH a Genesis and Super Nintendo for Christmas when I was a kid. Sadly for me, my mother couldn't afford either one back then. But I enjoyed the NES as a kid a lot. After that, my next console was a Nintendo 64 back in '98.
Same I got a genesis from a pawn shop in the mid 90s, and my main gaming device before was my old gameboy which I still have. My First system I could really enjoy was the Dreamcast.
Aww man, you missed the best gen.
Ngl you missed out on a whole generation of fun!
I acually liked both the sega genesis and the SNES equally.
To me that era was the pinnacle of gaming. 2 systems that were equally great yet each system had their own distinct strengths. I don't think that has happened again. Not to mention 2 systems with unique fantastic exclusives. My allegiance is towards the Genesis but the SNES is my third favorite system. Oh what an era of rivals pushing each other to new heights of excellence.
I would say that the 90s was the golden age of gaming.
@@buckroger6456 no question about that
Totally agree. A very unique time in the video games history.
Wrong, the answer is Tiger electronic games. Those are the best games. Much better than consoles of even the current era. The Tiger electronic games were enhanced gaming experiences compared to their console counterparts. Much more replay value and immersive experience.
It was truly the pinnacle of gaming culture and I feel so fortunate to have lived it. I think one of the things we didn't realize at the time as that in the battle between Sega and Nintendo, we, the gamers, were the winners!
I love this video. The concept of a “fanboy” never made sense to me. Why hate another console just because you don’t have it. While not everyone can have the means to own multiple consoles that doesn’t make their offerings any less viable or entertaining. While I was more of a SNES kid growing up I did still appreciate the Genesis and had one for the great experiences I could only get on Sega’s console. I was proud to own both and still regularly play both to this day.
Once again you echo my sentiments. I'm a die-hard Sega fan first and foremost but when the SNES/Super Famicom came out there were titles there I couldn't miss out on and I'm glad I didn't because it opened my eyes to some of the amazing titles Nintendo produced. It was an era like you say where both machines complemented each other and they both had equal placing under the TV. Two games manufacturers vying for our attention with great software.
And that's the kind of comment I don't see on anyone else's videos, common sense comments like yours. No, it's Genesis does this, Genesis does that, SNES sucks and all that stupid shit. Mel's videos are where the console folk come together and talk some sense about good gaming, no matter the console. I own both consoles these days, and have a healthy library of close to 200 games for both consoles, it pains me to see some of the crappy comments I see on other videos, and more and more Genesis fanboys are getting vocal, when I see few if any SNES fanboys being vocally abusive towards Genesis fanboys. I think few of the fanboys for either side were alive, or old enough to appreciate the games for both consoles, but I'm nearing my mid 40's, and I just want to slap the fanboys for both sides for the stuff they pull.
I've been called a Nintendo fanboy for sticking up for the SNES,when the fools don't realize I own 3 Sega consoles, over 50 games for the Saturn, 179 for the Genesis/MD, and 24 SMS games. Yeah I have 186 SNES/SFC games, and over 330 NES/FC games, but a lot of that was acquired when NES games were cheaper, and not going for the super priced SNES stuff, while most of my Genesis stuff was acquired when Genesis games were dirt cheap, before they started to succumb to theprice increase SNES games have seen.
I had a SNES, but most of my friends had a Genesis. What was great was that situation made for many great sleepovers on weekends.
Same here. Rather than fight, we were super excited to play each other's games!
@@captstrugglebunny We didn't really argue, either, but some would do that in school. I eventually bought a Genesis, and it then became they want to come over all the time.
Same here as well. It meant that I wasn't missing out on those great super Nintendo games. I actually miss those days when Friday meant renting games an getting pizza an having your friends stay over for some great gaming moments.
Exactly
I went from NES to Genesis. My best friend had a SNES. After that I got an N64 and he got a Playstation. We would argue about which was better, but we dang sure switched back and forth and played the exclusives. We also played the hell outta PS2 and GameCube.
Even when the Nintendo 64 had come out in 1996, I still wanted a SNES for Christmas that year because of all my cousins having one when they were younger. ;)
I'd still rather have a SNES even now. Better game selection and 2-D perfection.
Although both have fun, SNES was better overall than the N64. So you got a good deal: and at that point you had the pick of the litter, game wise, and price wise. And I think the SNES aged better.
We got a snes after the n64 for the exact same reason
You summed up my feelings about the era perfectly. I was a owner of both systems and was always anxious to play the systems I didn't have the TurboGrafx 16 (really wanted to play YS Books 1 & 2 and Dracula X) and the super expensive Neo-Geo. I think the 4th generation of gaming was definitely my favorite.
Great episode. I had both consoles growing up, but I did tend to lean more to the SNES once I got it. I loved that sound chip, and was easily impressed by the Mode 7.
When you have legendary individuals like Ken Kutaragi, and Shigeru Miyamoto as key people behind a console system, then you know this machine (the Super Nintendo) was a SERIOUS challenger to the title of 16 bit King of the World..and the rest is history...
As a kid I grew up mostly with Nintendo systems. I didn't had any console but played a lot with my cousins and friends. And sure I had a lot of fun with those games. Played the Genesis in late 2000s for the first time because I traded a NES I had for like 2 years, and my first game was Streets of Rage 2. Since then I became a Sega fan, but of course still loving what Nintendo did.
Wow! You hit the nail right in the head! I was one of the NES kids who got the Genesis and completely broke rank lol. The bit wars were real and i am so happy to have been a part of them. I even begged for the 32X in order to stay ahead of the curve on the bus ride to school which thanks to MK2 i feel was accomplished since the SNES port while good, was completely inferior to the 32X port. Wow, look at me still fighting lol.
This is one of the biggest reasons I like watching your videos. You have a great delivery and perspective on gaming. I have quite a few older systems myself. When I was a kid and especially now, I see how good it was to have been able play so many great games.
Always looking forward to watching!
You know Sega Lord the most awesome days of my childhood were playing snes and mega drive. I didnt had a mega drive but my neighboor and friend had one and every afternoon specially on the weekends we always had a blast. It was how i knew Toe Jam and Earl, Sonic, Golden Axe. Man i miss those days holy shit.
Lot of great experiences to be had on the old SNES
Thanx to emulation, not only can i have access to NEOGEO and my old collection i sadly had to sell in hard times - but im now enjoying some mode7 action and can appreciate it much more than i would of back then...
Bravo! This was yet another excellent video, my friend. You really captured the era of those days with both systems. This video really brought me back to a really cool time in gaming. Well done!
If I had to choose between owning one of these systems in current times, it would be the SNES. A big part of what made the Genesis so appealing back then were Sega's arcade conversions, but now you can obtain the arcade versions of most of these games pretty easily, making the Genesis ports less appealing. Same/same with the sports games; I'd rather play Madden on a current gen console than play it on the Genesis. And I don't think that Sonic has the staying power that Mario has.
Of course, I'm not trying to start a pissing contest here, as both systems are classics, and I certainly don't hate the Genesis.
The console wars bypass me, I had picked up the Master System and the NES with allowance funds I had saved over time. By the time the Genesis showed up I was 19 and had a job (while still living at my parents), so I had disposable cash. I bought myself the Sega 16 bit console and later got the SNES when it launched. Great experiences were had on both systems.
If the Turbografx 16 had gained more traction in the U.S. I might have picked it up too; in fact I recall playing one for about an hour and a half one weekend when NEC was doing a mall tour. The local mall had a kiosk setup with several T-16s with various games. I got hooked on Bonk, it was only after I left to go home that I had realized I was wearing a Super Mario themed shirt; the people running the kiosk must have gotten a kick out that.
Man Sega Lord X, you hung out with some fanboys from the sounds of it! I only got 2 minutes into the original version before it got taken down (yes, I know why and support the change) so I am watching the rest now.
I grew up a military brat so I guess my experience was radically different. Sure there were SNES and Genesis households but it was common for us to trade systems for a month or so just so we could play the others exclusive games, it was also not uncommon to run into a TG-16, PC-FX, or even Sharp X68000 house due to people being stationed over seas. We all appreciated the games for what they were, regardless of the system and would go to each others house just to play a new release; I had a SNES at first but went to a friends house who had a Genesis because he got the new MKII, we just wanted to play.
I never understood the mentality of fanboys, and I still don't to this day. Guess some people never let the Console Wars of the 90's go, eh? Good to see another level headed person.
The 16 bit wars gave us some of the best games ever made, still to this day. Two consoles, large library of games to collect, yes please.
Sweet SNES retrospective!!! It is my favorite console next to the Saturn!! I was going to get a Genesis at the time, but after seeing Super Mario world and Final Fight I grabbed that instead. I did pick up a Nomad later and got to experience all the Sega Genesis goodness!!!
I like your videos because each video is a compilation of good games to try on.
Rodrigo Badin same. Every arcade video he does I know I'll have to hit some random rom site to search out new roms.
I count myself among the combat veterans of the 16 bit wars in the Sega camp. Upon receiving my first paycheck I went out and got a haircut...and a Super Nintendo. To this day the old war horses sit peacefully next to each other...former enemies, now comrades. I play them nearly every day and love them both dearly!
the SNES is my number 1 console of all time. No console can get a better line up of games with such titles like DKC2, Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, Super Mario World, FF VI, Secret of Mana, Mario RPG, Super Mario Kart.... its just insane!!! But, I liked the Genesis very much too! The main Sonic games on this console are simply iconics!
Great video with a lot of truth. I personally loved them all for their own strengths and still do. Thanks for your work.
Console wars were there to lessen the sting of not being able to afford both consoles. These days, owning 3 of each snes and MD due to region variations, I can say that I find the ones who disregard either or, due to the console war of old, are missing out on fantastic things. I was a SEGA kid due to budget and chance, but i would have loved both machines back in the day
Yeah I don't blame you for changing the title of this video
I won a mega drive in 1992, with Sonic 2. It was a blow, it was very cool and for me at the time, better than everything I had in Super Nintendo. But in the following years all the games that went out for the two platforms were superior in Snes. Even so in 1994 buy the Sega-CD. In the 32bits era I was with the Playstation, given that Sega was not able to launch as many cool guys as it was in the 16-bit era. When it was ready to return to Sega, with Dreamcast, it was discontinued. However, if today I like electronic games and I am enthusiastic in its evolution, credits will always be from Sega.
I love your attitude and positivity in this video. I, too, had a SNES, Genesis, and TG16 during the nineties, and I must say, that era truly was the golden age of gaming. Truly incredible times.
I had Mega Drive as a kid, but I was always little jealous for my Nintendo friends who got the great SNES titles like Mario, Zelda, Mega Man, Donkey Kong Country and Castlevania. I loved the games I had on Sega, but I always felt like I was missing out by not being able to play the big Nintendo exclusives.
Now I've come to appreciate Sega more as I better understand what they were doing with the Mega Drive and the depth of its game library. As a kid I only ever knew about the games I saw in a game store when my mom would take me to one. And it wasn't often! Now that I'm collecting for the system I've discovered so many great titles that I never even knew about back then.
Nintendo had great games as well and thankfully I've been able to go back and play most of the games I missed from that side back in the day. Overall I prefer Sega, but you really couldn't go wrong no matter which one you picked in those days.
It's true, I loved both, but preferred NIntendo as they had the sort of games I wanted to play (Zelda/Mario etc), but I enjoyed the edgier games on Megadrive when I was in that mood.
AVGN started off as Angry Nintendo Nerd, too. But later he achieved enormous success by branching out to other console brands.
Perhaps Sega Lord X can, too, achieve previously unfathomed levels of fame by being more inclusive of other famous video game hardware manufacturers.
RESPECT!
Well, "SNES Drunk" sort of has had the same approach. He's loyally faithful to the SNES being great and knows its library incredibly well - but from time-to-time, talks about "what games were better on Genesis" or generally covers SEGA/Steam/etc games. I see Sega Lord X going down the same route -- really, it's inevitable, if he ONLY does Sega content he's going to run out of material before long, especially since they aren't really doing that much nowadays.
So behold Video Game Lord X!
He changed the name from angry Nintendo nerd to avgn cuz he got sued for using the Nintendo name in his name
@@PsychomachineryEBM Comsole Gaming Lord X?
Great vid, man! I remember being somewhat exclusive to Nintendo back in the day. Then a neighbor turned me on to Phantasy Star, Sonic, and various other titles on the Genesis, while I did the same for him with Nintendo and none other than Super Mario World. We spent a better part the next year trading consoles back and forth. And teaming on one or the other. That was a very good year, and it made me a very happy Sega fan as well. My most played consoles to this day are the Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast, and tons of retro Sega titles on my Xbox One, and PS2 . This was a great reminder of some really great times, and brought some shit back.... Thanks man😁.
Enjoyable video. Final Final SNES is a great game despite being cut. It is still extremely frantic and challenging, it's more an impression of the arcade game rather than a direct port.
And yes, SNES and Mega Drive complimented each other perfectly.
Final Fight would be great if it was built on a 2mbyte cart,it was very limited on 1mb.
But cart prices were very high back then.
@@vasileios6301 indeed. If released even a year later it would have had all content.
It's the same with Super SF2. People always comment that the Mega Drive version has some extra animation but don't understand it's a bigger cart so has more space for data!
Sega CD version was superior though despite feelings on remixed music
I find it weird to hear about competition between the NES and Genesis from Americans. AVGN said the same in some of his videos. That didn't happen here in Ireland. When the Mega Drive (Genesis) came out, nobody talked about the NES competing with it. The Mega Drive was light years ahead of it. It was Mega Drive vs SNES and NES vs Master System. I think there was a shorter duration between when the Mega Drive and SNES coming out here (18 months instead of 2 years), so that's probably why.
We had the same little groups in our school - the Sega Gang and Nintendo Gang. It's funny how this happened in schools all around the world. I was both a Sega owner (Master System) and Nintendo owner (SNES). Although, I pretty much played all the consoles cos whatever I didn't have, my friends had.
I think looking back - at the time I liked both the Mega Drive and SNES equally, but I think as time has lapsed - the SNES has aged better and I find myself going back to playing it more than the Mega Drive.
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I only knew 1 person who had a Nes and the same with the Master System, everyone else either had a Mega Drive or Amiga, i only knew 1 other person besides myself who bought a Snes when it came out! (from England btw)
I'm in the US and I had never seen or heard of the Master System until the mid 2000's. In your region weren't you more into the gaming computers back then as well? The NES was super popular here. So was the Genesis and SNES.
@@CrustyRetro, the Master System was more popular in Europe than the NES. Yes, PCs were more popular but the Master System came and had power not available on PCs at the time. Top Hat Gaming has videos about that subject.
My experience of the 16-bit generation came primarily via the odd session at friend's houses, bee-lining it to store displays etc. as I went NES-PC-N64 etc. - I would however play a LOT of games via SNES9X etc. in the late 90's and I would get to experience games like Doom, X-Wing etc. on PC that were't technically possible on the consoles (well, they did a port of Doom on the SNES, but it was abysmally bad, even with an add-on chip). Never understood the whole schoolyard console rivalry thing (though it was very minimal at my school), as I could see that each console had its strengths and weaknesses, and both had good games. Seemed like a whole lot of post-purchase rationalization to me.
I owned a Genesis first and then a SNES. I got hit with a retro-gaming bug earlier this year and stopped playing any new games in favor of 16-bit ones. Mostly Genesis though, because to me, it has aged better. Things like Mode 7 and super low quality sample based music with a shit-town of reverb, no longer impress at all, I can see Donkey Kong Country for the dumb-down Mario clone that it is and Star Fox is unplayable. Really like the speed snd craziness of the Genesis action games and appreciate the good implementation of the FM synthesis sound though.
I've always been a Nintendo guy but I did get to play quite a bit of Sega Genesis back in the day. I do consider myself a "fanboy" but I never had anything against rival companies, and I do own a couple of non-Nintendo consoles. I understand kids arguing which is better because that's what kids do, but I've always been able to appreciate all the consoles even if I have my preferences. Hidden gems for the SNES will always have my jam but lately I've developed a bit of a craving for Sega games that I missed out on. Thank you Sega Lord X for all the information.
Have you mentioned TG16 before? Make a (another) video showcasing some TG16 love!
Thanks for another video!
"Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis. When I was dead broke man, I couldn't picture dis'"
I’m a casual gamer as well. This generation of gaming is my favorite by far...
This was truly the golden age of gaming, so glad I could experience it.
Really interesting video! I absolutely loved my SNES growing up. Great library.
Man this is so true, my neighbor had a genesis (mega drive here) and I had a snes, it was so cool to check each system on it uniqueness. Video game Marketing was never a thing on my country, so console wars was a surprise for me when browsing the internet for the first time
I was lucky enough to have both systems as a child; I love both of them. But, like you Sega Lord X, I'm more a Sega kid than anything else. Love how you are expanding horizons talking about other systems. Keep on.
Well said. I didn't go platform agnostic until the PS2/Gamecube/Xbox era. Now that I'm an adult and have my own disposable income I'll give any machine a chance as long as there are some games that interest me on it, even retro consoles.
I was a Sega kid back then for sure who loved his Genesis to death, but all that changed when I saw the SNES for the first time when my neighbor got it for Xmas of 91.. I was particularly blown away by Super Castlevania IV.. I had to have it, so I proceeded to save every penny from my meager allowance, saved every dollar from mowing many lawns and washing so many cars and was finally able to purchase one in the spring of ‘92... I’m glad I did that because my brother and I were able to enjoy so many games back then. NINTENDO definitely gained my respect with the SNES!!!
I enjoyed both systems back then as I do now. Wonderful video review!
I appreciate your point of view due to your ownership of the various consoles; I think most people would root for whatever system they were used to playing on, not knowing what they may be missing on a 'rival' console.
I grew up in England so I didn’t know anybody with an Super Nintendo. Used to really enjoy play super mario and F zero at the local games store
I'm only a newcomer to your channel, but look forward to your updates the most. Great channel !!!
The 16bit generation is my favorite and I too embraced all three platforms. Being able to play any title regardless of platform was the best way to approach things and it is how I still game today.
The punch sound effects on Final Fight (SNES) are still, for me, the most satisfying of any console beat ‘em up I’ve ever played.
I was mostly a Nintendo fan as a kid, however Sega has one of the best games of all time, Streets of Rage 2. My friend had it on his Sega Megadrive(in Europe) and I was blown away by the smooth action, I still play it quite often, it just never gets old. Oh and the music is so good in that game, maybe one of the best, if not the best soundtrack on Megadrive/Genesis. While Snes games often sound better(imo), some sounds such as bass are better on Sega and I think Sor2 is a great example of that!
The SNES had so many all-time classics like Super Metroid, F-Zero, Earthbound, and many more. Although I am more of a SEGA fan I will always consider the Super Nintendo to be one of the greatest systems of all time. The SNES and the Mega Drive/Genesis will always be equal to me in terms of quality, which one you like more comes down to preference.
I honestly didn't think I could handle watching another Nintendo Vs. Sega video in my life. However, as someone who was fortunate enough to have both SNES and Genesis in their household I really appreciate your take on this.
Awesome video buddy honestly, you're are the best at retro games and systems videos man! Thank you
I've never have a SNES before. But I grew up on my Sega Genesis since I was a kid 😀😁
Same here. Didnt even onow i was missing out. Best believe i just bought a havked snes with all the games built in tho
The difference in sales between them was mainly because of Japan. The Super Famicom sold a lot there. The Genesis sold more in the US, but it wasn't enough for facing the massive sales on the eastern side of the world.
Sega won the West
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Just like Mark III, the Mega Drive had no chance in Japan due to Nintendo hogging most of the local AAA third party devs in extremely restrictive exclusive contracts which were later found to be illegal and monopolistic by a court. Companies like Konami and Capcom couldn't publish Genesis games until 1992. With Nintendo's domination of the 8-bit market and monopolistic practices, it's a miracle that Genesis was this successful... a true underdog success story. For the first two years West, it was carried on the strength of Sega arcade brand, superior sports games and excellent marketing.
^ this
Nintendo success is half for good reasons (a few good hardwares and some genuinely great games here and there) but also half for bad reasons (illegal monopoly during the 8 and early 16-bit days, flooding the market with cheap hardwares (the handhelds in particular but also the Wii, Wii U or Switch (well, the latter do both but whatever you get the point)...).
I have much more respect towards Sega or Sony although there's at least one good thing with Nintendo cheapo handhelds: it's nice for kids who aren't always careful with their stuff.
+Doug R.
Sega sold as much if not more hardwares during that era. You have to look at overall sales figures.
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I had in order. The Atari 2600, NES, Genesis, Gameboy, *PC,* Playstation, *PC upgrade,* Playstation 2, *New PC,* X box, *New PC,* Wii, New PC (again) & PS3.
Now just upgraded PC only. I loved the rivalry between the 16bit consoles. But I loved both.
_(My best friend and I would swap Genesis & SNES often because we both wanted new games to play. Same with the PS1 & N64)_
I was a nes fan and didnt plan on getting a genesis until i played sonic. But eventually I got a genesis then snes and always wanted a tg16 back then and a neo geo. Never was a fanboy of systems but I have my favorite games on each system. All systems of that era are worth owning.
With my friends, it was never a fight. It was more like, "I have a SNES." "Oh, I have a Genesis." "Shit! Let's go to each other's houses and play each other's games!" I'm an SNES fan, but to dismiss the Genesis, TG16, or PC, was and remains foolish.
Thanks for the re-upload 👍
Thank you for your videos.
Back in the day, I got a NES and (later) a SNES; those two are the only video game consoles I have ever owned to this day. A cousin was the first from all people I knew who got a Sega Genesis, and most of the times I got to play some Genesis games it was because of him. All those who were fortunate enough to own both consoles literally had the best of both worlds.
1:05 ive recently gotten into retro gaming, so i didn't even grow up with this. I decided i was going to go the clone console route because i could get multiple consoles all in one. I was going to go with just a nes and snes console, but last minute decided id go for one that also has a genesis port. Boy was that a good idea, because now i have more genesis games than nes and snes. I want to focus on my snes collection a little, as i dont have much for it, (thats why im here actually.)but either way, I've found a surprising amount of games i like on the genesis. Idk, if i had to choose one being better now, surprisingly, ill say genesis.
this is why i love your video you give all platforms the love they deserve
Your philosophy of open-mindedness is EXACTLY the kind of thing I too, personally feel strongly about,and wholeheartedly agree with. I never let bias get in the way of my ability to enjoy anything and everything I give a chance and feel is worthy.
Well said SLX. I was a SNES owner first and loved it. Still remains my favourite system to this day. That said, my neighbour had a megadrive and I loved that too - I played it more than my brothers N64 in the next gen (having discovered beer and women by then). Today I’ve got both and a PC Engine to boot. Love them all. Gen 4 was incredible.
I was a Sega kid first and Nintendo kid second growing up. Between both systems, I had a Genesis. My only experience with the Super NES back then was playing it while visiting with my cousins, renting it, or playing ROMs on an emulator. I didn't have any Nintendo hardware until the Nintendo 64 launched. I eventually got a Super NES, and I only have four games for it: Super Mario World, Super Mario All-Stars, Secret of Mana, and Mega Man X. I have far more Genesis games, but not shelves and shelves of them. My library is curative, with games I know I'll play.
People have to remember how split the videogame community was back then. I grew up in the 70's and 80's where brandnames were almost everything. You either owned a Sega something or a Nintendo do-hicky. And these two sides argued as if the fate of the universe was at stake.lol turbo grafx was seen as a third party wanna be trying to cash in on the videogame craze, nobody I knew had one. Most games I didn't recognize. Again names and brand names of popular well known games was critical to being successful back then. It seems foreign as to how split the two sides were in the day. I bought my genesis in 89' because I was a big Sega arcade fan. They were the best games at the time and I wanted that experience home. It was may first gaming system that I bought with my own money. Back then with limited income you choose a console/game and stuck with it. That meant brand loyalty usually. I wasn't interested in the snes until Star Fox. I saw the commercial and was blown away by it. I simply had to have that game! I bought a used snes and a few games for it including SF. After that I respected the snes and what it could do (although most of its magic comes from chips in the cart and not actual system hardware). With better color, sound and scaling abilities everyone argued that the snes was better, and it wasn't a bad argument. The abilities of the snes can't be denied. However, there is one angle that few ever considered and still don't to this day. The genesis was pushing polygons, natively since 89'. Games like M1 Abrams, LHX, F-117, Mig-29, Strike Eagle 2, Kawasaki racing all were polygon or had polygon usage. Everyone focuses on VR racing on the genesis as segas response to the fx chip at Nintendo. In fact, the genesis had already been using polygons in its simulation series of games for years. Also what isn't brought much either is that yes, the genesis could scale, backgrounds. Panorama Cotton is proof of what the genesis could do when pushed!! Its pretty impressive and i couldn't believe it was a genesis game. So, superiority is sort of in the eye of the beholder to a degree. Each system had advantages and disadvantages, strengths and weaknesses. Two approaches to the same market that gamers benefited greatly from. We don't see that as much today with so many cross platform games and systems very similar in specs and technology. It was an exciting time to be a gamer back then, I do miss those days.
One of my favorite videos you have made so far. Perfect nails a unique, and exciting time in game history.
I was an early adopter of both consoles. I didn't import a Super Famicom, but I wanted to. I followed its development through gaming mags and was excited for its launch. I still regard the Geneais as my favorite 16 bit system, but I loved the Snes and the TG 16 a helluva lot. Great video. Good for you for being so open-minded. Wish gamers did not discourage the desire to enjoy all systems. the 16 bit era was absolutely my favorite console gen.
I am 45 years old, and I bought my first sega genesis in 1990 used for $85, and got the super Nintendo on the release month, and agree with you 100% that they both had different qualities and it made it worth buying them both to enjoy two different system's. I felt that the SNES was a higher quality system in that the stereo sound output of my genesis thru my Dolby Prologic 5 speaker stereo was not as good as the SNES. I disliked having to use a headphone plug to r/l RCA outputs with the Genesis. I personally felt the SNES was a bit superior but had fewer games. I enjoyed your video, as I always do. God bless.
As a kid, I honestly asked for all three systems for Christmas. I played a Turbografx before I played a Genesis, and I was an avid NES player, so the Genesis was realistically third on my list for excitement at the time. Truthfully, though, I was going to be absolutely thrilled no matter what system I would end up having.
It ended up being a Super Nintendo that I'd own during its actual heyday, but that never stopped my wanting, well, all of them. The only time I ever engaged in those schoolyard arguments was when it became Sonic vs Mario. I'm just not a huge Sonic fan, so it was easy to pick a side for me. I never understood why anyone felt the need to be all Nintendo or all Sega, though. Among my friends, all of the console wars nonsense was accompanied by whispers of the Neo Geo, which was basically if mythical porportions, and at best someone knew a friend of an acquaintance that supposedly owned one.
Those were special times.
Aaaahhhh back in the day when competing consoles were actually very different from one another. Nice video man.
Nice episode SLX! Although I only have one bit of feedback. When you praise a game's soundtrack, it makes sense to let us listen to a couple of seconds of music from said game. It's the commentative equivalent of describing a game without any screenshots or gameplay clips.
Nice thing about both the Mega Drive and Super Nintendo (and actually most systems until the PS3/360), was that the game systems were very different , from the hardware to the game library.
It was always interesting to go to a friend's house to try games that you never played on your system. In my case I only had a PC at that time, so it was always interesting to go to and play NES or MD games that were wildly different to what I was playing on the PC.
Nowadays I probably like the Mega Drive more, as I also like the Sega style of gameplay, but there is no denying the SNES is great.
I was one of those who jumped from NES to Genesis. I still love the Genesis the most but I was always a huge closet SNES fan. I wish I could have owned both back in the days.
My 'go to' games on the Genesis were Space Harrier II, Golden Axe, Phantasy Star 2 and 3, Populous (man, I sunk so much time into that game), Starflight, Might and Magic (actually a port of M&M II), Target Earth (man is that game hard!) and Alisha Dragoon.
I really wish I could of been a teenager/young adult during the 16-bit era. As good as games and technology are now I can't help but feel like I missed out on a really special time in gaming. Anyways, great video!
Great video as always. Final Fantasy 4 has been my favorite RPG since I first played it back then. Glad to hear you love it too.
Had both the Genesis and the SNES in my house growing up. Loved them both. When I was younger, I preferred the Genesis because it had Sonic and Streets of Rage, but the SNES had too many amazing games for me to deny its excellence. The catch was that I HAD all the best games on the Genesis (that I knew about), and I'd only RENTED a lot of my favourite games on the SNES. So I kept going back to S3&K and Toejam and Earl, and kept wishing I could play Yoshi's Island, SMRPG, or DKC2 or 3 again.
And then I got a 3DO!
I was one of those rare families that had both a Genesis and Super Nintendo, so I never even knew about the Console War until the internet became more readily accessible to everyone
I wouldn't be friends with anyone who said Super Mario World's graphics looked bad. That game is a timeless classic that looks great even now.
I was the same way, man! I still am. I've played every console since Atari 2600. There are TOO many amazing games to offer on all the platforms. Subbed! 🖖👽
I’ve kinda fell out of the retro community BUT I will always watch your videos! Keep up the great work!
I LOVED the fact that we could get both experiences at the same time.. 16-bit era was to me the golden age of gaming! The kids that argued about it usually couldn't afford or weren't allowed to own both 😂
I respect the way you took down your original video because the title was to controversial. That's some integrity you shown right there. RUclips needs more of that.
It made me happy that you included FF4 in the list. It is one of my favourite games of all time :) I usually play through it at least once a year. My run last year was the PSP version, I think I’ll run through the steam version this year.
I had an SNES, but I didn't own one until 16-bit consoles were already in decline. I went straight from 8-bit to getting a PC. I actually bartered for my Super Nintendo. I had recently gotten a Soundblaster-16, and no longer needed the sound card I was replacing. My next door neighbor's PC lacked any kind of sound card, so he traded me straight across for it and all of this games. It wasn't a bum deal for him though, because he could finally get to experience PC games as they were meant to be played. The Sound card was also where the controller port were located. So once you had one, you could use a gamepad, or a flight stick, and really enjoy those games.
SNES + Street Fighter 2.... Nostalgia .... 😍
I went from Nintendo NES to Sega Genesis to SNES when I became 8 and got my SNES.
A rewatch for me. So many great memories. I liked shooters bu they weren't my top games, I preferred platformers, which is why I liked NIntendo. Sonic was great, such a different sort of platformer, which complimented the collecting type of Mario.
If I had to pick between the two, I'd go with the SNES. That's not a world I'd want to live in, though. :)
I think it was a little funny that you showed Earthworm Jim when talking about multi-platform games that were equals. That one has some nasty problems on the Super Nintendo, lol. Maybe a better example would've been the sequel. Very fun episode though, it's cool to see how you liked both because they offered different experiences.
i was a snes kid ,only because i couldn't afford both . donkey kong country was a real gem on the nintendo .. but sega had that arcade feel to it . . it took me almost a year of pushing lawnmowers to afford the sega with streets of rage 2 and thunder force 4 .. my back was broke ,but it was worth it :)
I had both Sega and Nintendo consoles growing up, I was fortunate. But I preferred Nintendo because I was big into RPGs. And the SNES really came thundering in hard with them. Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy II & III (IV & VI, whatever), Illusion of Gaia, Lufia II, etc. But I absolutely still loved Genesis games like Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, Splatterhouse 2, etc.