Battle of Talas 751 - Abbasid - Tang War DOCUMENTARY

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  • @ridwanmaulana6480
    @ridwanmaulana6480 7 лет назад +442

    I never heard about this battle. Your channel are amongst the best youtube hidden gem

  • @Saicofake
    @Saicofake 6 лет назад +142

    This is 100X better than what History channel is giving nowadays.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +19

      Thanks!

    • @GuyI9000
      @GuyI9000 5 лет назад +4

      HIstory channel is biased and wants to control information

    • @TheMercifulAndJust
      @TheMercifulAndJust 4 года назад +2

      Filled with Freemasonic History Telling their warped stories
      Like also this kings and generals adding their statements of bias "papermaking the abbasids had stolen from the chinese" ... what stolen?? Was it sitting idle in your chinese baba's shop waiting to be nicked by A Muslim under Abbasid rule ?
      Man, why not keep your subtle biased opinions that has no evidential merit not tangibly nor intangibly (as in rationally).

  • @远山上的树木
    @远山上的树木 4 года назад +902

    I am from China. During this war, a Tang Dynasty soldier named Du Huan was taken prisoner and met many Chinese papermakers, carpenters, and painters in Arabia, and here is my English translation based on ancient Chinese documents.
    [Record of Chinese Tang Dynasty captives living in Arabia]
    The name of the king of Arabia was Mamun, and he was born here. Arab women were tall and plump, with beautiful clean clothes and moon-like beauty. The women went out and covered their faces. Silks and pearls from various countries are in abundance in the markets. Camels and donkeys walk through the streets. Vases of Chinese porcelain are offered by merchants to noblemen at festivals. Rice and wheat flour are available here, just like in China. Here grapes are the same size as eggs. There was a love of spices. Weavers, goldsmiths, painters, Fan Shu and Liu Hua from Shaanxi, China, and Lv Li from the east bank of the Yellow River. They also drove with camels. Their horses, said to be born from the mating of a dragon and a horse in the West Sea, have small bellies and long legs, and can run a thousand miles a day. There is also the ostrich, which is 3 meters high and has feet bigger than a camel's hoof, so that a man can ride an ostrich. There are also palm trees, the fruit is like Chinese dates, can be pressed to produce oil, eating dates can prevent disease. The climate in Arabia is warm, no snow and no ice. People often suffered from malaria, and within a year, half of those who got sick would die. Arabia conquered more than 50 countries and sent troops to defend them. The westernmost part of the Arabian territory reached the Black Sea.

    • @yorkssery
      @yorkssery 4 года назад +132

      Thats really nice to know thanks for translation im arab (: and would like to know the name of the book so i can read more about this Chinese captive

    • @samnatt248
      @samnatt248 4 года назад +113

      Thank you from a Palestinian Arab

    • @远山上的树木
      @远山上的树木 4 года назад +42

      @@samnatt248 You are welcome

    • @远山上的树木
      @远山上的树木 4 года назад +26

      @@Aaron_1428You are welcome

    • @远山上的树木
      @远山上的树木 4 года назад +35

      @احسن واحد 《经行记》杜环
      No Arabic version

  • @ti37
    @ti37 6 лет назад +708

    Im from Talas,, I read about this war in Talas but I didn’t know that it was a important that much ...really useful video,,thanks

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +64

      Thanks for watching!

    • @hangzhao8060
      @hangzhao8060 6 лет назад +17

      well it's not very important if there is no rebellion in Tang Dynasty

    • @malaysia_67
      @malaysia_67 6 лет назад +26

      @@hangzhao8060
      I think if Tang dynasty go head to head again with the combination of Abbasynian and Turkic, perhaps in history China wont even exist today.. Remember that the Chinese are fighting a combo enemy at their prime.

    • @hangzhao8060
      @hangzhao8060 6 лет назад +24

      ​@@malaysia_67 Abyssinia is in Africa, you must have got something wrong. Turkic then has been kicked the shit of, the east has been a part of China and the west has already forced to march west.

    • @netgodzilla4477
      @netgodzilla4477 5 лет назад +26

      @@malaysia_67 lol , it is the Turkic army that cannot go deeper into Chinese teritories. China was a superpower at that time.

  • @Liurf
    @Liurf 7 лет назад +2548

    "On the fifth day, at dawn, look to the East!"
    not Gandalf
    Turks

    • @cemilkerimli5530
      @cemilkerimli5530 6 лет назад +18

      xD

    • @crumbgg6205
      @crumbgg6205 6 лет назад +197

      ancient Chinese soldier: yeah, we fucked.

    • @someonefromdesert
      @someonefromdesert 6 лет назад +31

      Tang were also Turks, not Hans. Indeed Hans were second sort people during Tang dynasty.

    • @CookieGamerss
      @CookieGamerss 6 лет назад +8

      Vianna Ctuhlhu Lol someones mad that Turks are not getting bad comments

    • @welison985
      @welison985 6 лет назад +5

      Oh man! That one was good...XD

  • @Zhanyshow
    @Zhanyshow 6 лет назад +908

    Hi im from in Kyrgyzstan province talas.

  • @HistoryTime
    @HistoryTime 7 лет назад +285

    Oh man!!! I was about to leave the house... Now I have to leave in 9 minutes 5 seconds time.... Yet another of my favourite historical battles... Such a captivating moment in Eurasian history.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +39

      Leaving the house is for the weak, or something like that. :-)

    • @umaransari9765
      @umaransari9765 7 лет назад +6

      Kings and Generals if I wouldn't leave home to school or to bring stuffs from market my parents would kill me

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +14

      And they will be right, probably. :-)

    • @umaransari9765
      @umaransari9765 7 лет назад +4

      Kings and Generals ya lol xD

    • @seanwong8183
      @seanwong8183 7 лет назад +2

      Ah Jesus. You two should do a collab

  • @joshuahoffman1458
    @joshuahoffman1458 5 лет назад +913

    Battle of Talas long-lasting effects:
    1. Caused Buddhism to decline in the area and Islam to spread among the dominant Turk population, changing the religous and political demographics of a thousand square mile region.
    2. The lack of land route for Buddhists leads to a divergence in the religion in India and China, leading to two very different branches being formed.
    3. The Islamicist Turks lead to the Seljuk Empire, which took Jerusalem and triggered the crusades.
    4. Another Turkic peoples, the Ottomans, conquered the Eastern Roman Empire and created one of the largest empires in the world across three different continents.
    5. We are still feeling the effects of THAT empire collapsing down to the present day in the Middle East.
    But most importantly.....
    pApER sPReAd to eUrOPe.

    • @bighead8417
      @bighead8417 4 года назад +185

      Paper is by far the most important event

    • @-_-o7741
      @-_-o7741 4 года назад +83

      @J Fuck off you can practice what you want in China. No one gives a shit until you start killing others. Islam is peaceful unless provoked. This is all the fault of Saudi extremism(Wahabism). If the west didn't fuck up the middle East and gave the Arabs an Arabian Empire like they promised the Sauds wouldn't have risen to power.

    • @arturkarpinski164
      @arturkarpinski164 4 года назад +11

      Nicely done Josh!!!

    • @joshuahoffman1458
      @joshuahoffman1458 4 года назад +13

      @J I was talking about central asia. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, etc.

    • @finalfrontier001
      @finalfrontier001 4 года назад +2

      All the lies in your comment its amazing how insecure white christian males are.

  • @AlextheRambler
    @AlextheRambler 7 лет назад +855

    I always looking forward to watching these, congrats on your success!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +56

      Thank you very much, my friend. :-) Same here, I have been watching your videos forever, it is nice to see you breaking out finally. :-)

    • @aclark4031
      @aclark4031 7 лет назад +3

      Alex The Rambler! Omg Alex it’s you, you’re like my bae

    • @christermi
      @christermi 7 лет назад

      Alex The Rambler! You again ?

    • @poseidon1827
      @poseidon1827 7 лет назад

      Hey rambler

    • @cornycobra
      @cornycobra 7 лет назад +1

      Alex The Rambler! O

  • @alfarabi73
    @alfarabi73 6 лет назад +343

    Talas is one of the most important unknown battles in history. Thanks for covering it!

  • @UpcycleElectronics
    @UpcycleElectronics 7 лет назад +334

    I liked the diligent dual account story line. It adds credibility to the documentary claim.
    It's nice to see someone raising the bar among the elite of RUclips storytellers. Your in my top 5 for favorite channels to watch every time I see an upload.
    The YT bots really should show your uploads more as suggested content within the category of intellectual, interesting, and entertaining alt-media. This content is easily better than the vast majority of #trending content ;)
    -Jake

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +12

      Thank you very much, Jake :-)

    • @mohaamd_7505
      @mohaamd_7505 6 лет назад +2

      You can enable notifications when ever he uploads.

    • @kamilo4989
      @kamilo4989 6 лет назад

      What are the other four?

    • @ryhanzfx1641
      @ryhanzfx1641 6 лет назад

      Yeah i'm interested of what are the other 4 favorite channel of yours? I'd like to check it out too

    • @yogipreneurable
      @yogipreneurable 6 лет назад

      Anyone knows what Game used as war ilustration?

  • @واحد-ث7ن
    @واحد-ث7ن 5 лет назад +441

    We, the youth of the world, must reject racial hatred and racism. This is a history and we must respect others without abuse and accept each other. My greetings to all human beings.
    Greetings from Arabia

    • @UnknownS11S
      @UnknownS11S 5 лет назад +15

      ونعم فيك

    • @AbdullahAnRd
      @AbdullahAnRd 5 лет назад +21

      ادفع بالتي هي أحسن ، فإذا الذي بينك وبينه عداوة كأنه وليٌ حميم 😍

    • @mosamohammed1692
      @mosamohammed1692 5 лет назад +7

      وش يقولون الاجانب في التعليقات

    • @jorenvanderark3567
      @jorenvanderark3567 5 лет назад +25

      Amen to that.

    • @aboelsofalabed1588
      @aboelsofalabed1588 5 лет назад +42

      That's the most wise comment may Allah bless you brother

  • @Vin-sv9fm
    @Vin-sv9fm 7 лет назад +477

    didn't know Chinese and Arabs once had a battle before, thank you, your channel is amazing!

    • @majerray
      @majerray 7 лет назад +116

      THey had battles and many more trade agreements and ambassies... that's how Black powder, Tee, and Paper found their way to the middle east and the wast

    • @Vin-sv9fm
      @Vin-sv9fm 7 лет назад +17

      momomo mimi i previously thought the technical exchange of paper-making was peacefully conducted through trade between the east and the west, and here i am surprised. that's another reason i subscribed to this channel.

    • @Vin-sv9fm
      @Vin-sv9fm 7 лет назад +13

      Black Moon so does the Chinese, it doesn't matter at all.

    • @kingofthesouth2593
      @kingofthesouth2593 7 лет назад +6

      Black Moon
      Let me guess you are not an arab right?

    • @kingofthesouth2593
      @kingofthesouth2593 7 лет назад +37

      Black moon
      لا تضحكني.الخلافة العباسية عربية رغم انفك.تزوير التاريخ صعب.اجري تلعب

  • @batir92
    @batir92 7 лет назад +1057

    Awesome video. I am from Talas, Kyrgyzstan home of the great hero Manas. Salam Aleikum to all my GokTurk brothers.

    • @alchemist7525
      @alchemist7525 7 лет назад +68

      wa allekm al salam from egypt my brother

    • @polpottribute9102
      @polpottribute9102 7 лет назад +89

      Alaykumselam from Iran Turkmens

    • @mehmetdemirci3725
      @mehmetdemirci3725 7 лет назад +45

      Be Turk dont be muslim

    • @simple6783
      @simple6783 7 лет назад +65

      Mehmet Demirci most Turks are Muslim religion and race are 2 different things

    • @polpottribute9102
      @polpottribute9102 7 лет назад +26

      Zaeem Sheikh Why ? Could be Christian (Ortodoks Gagauzians) or Jew (Karaims) Turks!

  • @patrickberbon3135
    @patrickberbon3135 6 лет назад +26

    My teacher wanted me to watch a 75 minute podcast on this and so I just looked up "battle of talis" and this actually has good animation and is interesting. Thanks for the great video

  • @khalidboy1
    @khalidboy1 6 лет назад +14

    whenever i watch your channel , i learn new things and i admire the effort you put on making these videos . keep it up man , piece and love from your moroccan muslim brother !

  • @abdousalem3079
    @abdousalem3079 7 лет назад +831

    The most important battle most people never heard about.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +189

      Exactly. But researching it was pain. :-)

    • @bkz9357
      @bkz9357 7 лет назад +27

      Kings and Generals thanks for good job!! My home town near by Talas

    • @cemalozarslan3014
      @cemalozarslan3014 7 лет назад +90

      Lot’s of Turks became muslim after this war

    • @flamingas
      @flamingas 7 лет назад +5

      Seemed very inconsequential.

    • @spikelol9928
      @spikelol9928 7 лет назад +6

      Cemal Özarslan no actually, Uzbek khan made bigger impact in Islam for turks

  • @coscoeng1218
    @coscoeng1218 7 лет назад +44

    The best day is when there is a notification about this channel.

  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +361

    The good news is that we will release our next video on Thursday, the bad is that we will have less time to reply to your comments. But, we want you to know, that we do our best to read each one and answer to it and appreciate each and every one of you. Thanks!

    • @alexsukhanov7918
      @alexsukhanov7918 7 лет назад +10

      Keep it up guys! You doing an amazing job!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +8

      Thank you for your support!

    • @Itachi029Achiko
      @Itachi029Achiko 7 лет назад +5

      Kings and Generals Hello sir, Are you planning to do a video about the battle of Didgori? :D Waiting for it from the first time I saw your chanel.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +5

      Didgori is getting closer.

    • @Itachi029Achiko
      @Itachi029Achiko 7 лет назад +1

      Kings and Generals :)

  • @Taiyuan2004
    @Taiyuan2004 6 лет назад +45

    Honestly! This the best English channel that talks about Chinese history. This channel definitely did a lot of research on Chinese history !

  • @saqlainsiddiqui7170
    @saqlainsiddiqui7170 7 лет назад +570

    Arabs and the Chinese fighting in central Asia! Wow! Way to go Kings and Generals. Love it that you guys cover some unique events in history

    • @saqlainsiddiqui7170
      @saqlainsiddiqui7170 7 лет назад +13

      WithAStick AngryWhiteMan yeah absolutely. This event in history is like a scenario of a game if you ask me.

    • @spikelol9928
      @spikelol9928 7 лет назад +62

      and turks smoked at that time watching how the battle went on😂

    • @singular123er
      @singular123er 7 лет назад +4

      Saqlain Siddiqui its muslims and chinese

    • @sillerjaw6840
      @sillerjaw6840 7 лет назад

      Ablaikhan Bennett LMFAOOO

    • @TheRid16
      @TheRid16 6 лет назад +3

      I only thought it was possible in Age of Empires Multiplayer XD

  • @zechbates9376
    @zechbates9376 7 лет назад +40

    Very good video this is by far one of the best history channels and I wish it would get more support (by way of subscribers)

  • @小林トール-k5i
    @小林トール-k5i 5 лет назад +14

    As a Chinese college student,I have to say your video is very objective and fascinating.The information you convey is the same as I have
    exposed to.

  • @elbeers50
    @elbeers50 6 лет назад +153

    I'm from Talas. It is a beautiful place, welcome everybody.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +18

      Glad to hear that :-)

    • @boraerkara4501
      @boraerkara4501 5 лет назад +11

      I am also from Talas,Türkiye, where is sister municipality of Kyrgyzstan Talas. and it's name is comes from Talas, Kyrgyzstan..And one day I wish to come there..

    • @linconnuegladiateur8275
      @linconnuegladiateur8275 4 года назад

      @@KingsandGenerals PLEASE SONG FINAL

  • @noahwolfgram4743
    @noahwolfgram4743 5 лет назад +8

    Got plastered on new years a eve, and still managed to watch/understand this episode. 11/10 would recommend this channel for everyone, both drunk and sober.

  • @ashimov1970
    @ashimov1970 3 года назад +5

    My wife and I are kazakhs (qazaqs), the closest neighbours and next of kin to the karluk family people (uzbeks and uyghurs) who are the strait descendant people of that turkic tribes that chose the Party and Deen (Faith/Religion) of Allah during the events depicted in the video. Currently we qazaqs are inhabiting exactly the area where the Battle took place and significant part of the Talas river. In fact, the spouse is originally from that area. Thank you for the video. It is pretty informative and insightful.

  • @umaransari9765
    @umaransari9765 7 лет назад +43

    Love Kings and Generals
    U deserve 1 million subs

  • @ragael1024
    @ragael1024 3 года назад +4

    so now i must give thanks thrice:
    Once to the supporter of this video, Fahad Al Mandil(i hope i spelled it right). i was always curious of this battle, but never went to actually buy books to learn of it. you truly made me wiser today, friend!
    Second, a big shout to the Abbasids. because of them, we no longer use sponges to wipe our rears with. papermaking is the reason why we all enjoy a slice of heaven whenever we use the porcelain throne :))
    and thank you, K&G, for your content. you are one of the reasons why i love history so much these days :)

  • @ganikurmanov7225
    @ganikurmanov7225 6 лет назад +569

    Wow! I am from Kazakhstan. And I had no idea that someone outside of my country even knows about Talas battle. My school and university teachers alway mantioned the importance of that historical event. If tans would win that battle than Central Asia would be more "asian" than Muslim. Thanks for video, good job!

  • @siddharthabanerjee6155
    @siddharthabanerjee6155 4 года назад +6

    Thanks for this video and remarkable explanation. I have been looking for information on the battle of Talas river for a couple of days, and this has been the best so far. Even Brittanica could not give much information. Great video :)

  • @mysticonthehill
    @mysticonthehill 6 лет назад +127

    I am not Arab or Chinese but It is great seeing all the friendship this video has prompted people to express between the two cultures. I it shows that when people approach each of from a perspective of interest and curious a good fruit is sown even among people who had fought in the past. Peace to all.

  • @azurkhan7737
    @azurkhan7737 5 лет назад +10

    Hi I am from Gilgit, Pakistan, I wasn't awared of the battle between Gilgit and China fourteen hundred years ago, thanks for making this precious video. 🌹

    • @zainjawaid2556
      @zainjawaid2556 5 лет назад +1

      I am from Multan, Punjab. I heard only few accounts about it last year when i visited Hunza. I like history so i dig on it and found about Chinese invasion on Gilgit and Karimabad. There are also some racial mixing between biltistan, Mangol, Chinese, Turks and tibetian.

  • @hwasiaqhan8923
    @hwasiaqhan8923 7 лет назад +394

    One of the major reason of why the Chinese Tang Dynasty and Arabic empire were hostile towards each other was because the Arabs invaded the Persians which was allied with China, Tang and Persia had great relations. After the Persian empire was destroyed, the Persian prince fled to China for asylum.

    • @abdelrhmanemira2480
      @abdelrhmanemira2480 7 лет назад +5

      Mamluks Ball no the four kings after prophet Mohamed dead are relatives and umywad and Abbasid were cousins too so maybe it is one of the reasons

    • @xenon9030
      @xenon9030 7 лет назад +48

      Does not seem likely. The Muslim leaders hated each other even more than some foreign Chinese Dynasty.

    • @eugeneng7064
      @eugeneng7064 7 лет назад +16

      God Guides To His Light Whom He Wills ! Yes. They still had the remnants of the Sassanid court living in Chang'an. By the very nature of distance and having their own problems, the Tang couldn't have mounted an attack on the Arabs. Then the Arabs made a move on them, guess what happened next?

    • @dclawsurmommusic1319
      @dclawsurmommusic1319 7 лет назад +27

      Vitalis gotta love how Persia is a fellow civilization that was at least respected by the Han Dynasty and Roman Empire/Republic

    • @eugeneng7064
      @eugeneng7064 7 лет назад +23

      Having looked it up, the reasons for the battle may have been far simpler with the Sassanid royalty living in Chang'an being a convenient excuse/propaganda.
      The Umayyads deposed a local ruler in the region which resulted in a Tang response. The Tang sent an army to reinstate their vassal and succeeded, keeping several garrisons nearby to keep an eye on things. The Abassids then overthrew the Umayyads and wanted to consolidate the formers territories, cue confrontation.

  • @furiousgeorge4114
    @furiousgeorge4114 7 лет назад +91

    The Tibetan Plateau stands over 4.5 kilometres above sea level and is surrounded by imposing mountain ranges that harbour the world's two highest summits, Mount Everest and K2. Marching an army of conquest in to this region with thoughts of victory is a fool's errand. The geography of the nation of Switzerland has much of the same defensive advantages, however not the same religious and political significance. The Tibetan Plateau is a natural fortress that any sane person would fear to attack.
    This video is an epic revelation to my former self. Great work KaG, Bravo.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +3

      Thanks! :-)

    • @MrGuana141
      @MrGuana141 7 лет назад +9

      China didn't agree =D

    • @marypusineri6291
      @marypusineri6291 7 лет назад +4

      Kings and Generals Great video! I has never heard of this Battle before, so im thankful that you took the time to make this so people can learn.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +2

      What's up Mary.. Unfortunately I should inform you, Dwarf Fortress is not planned for foreseeable future :(

    • @Pedrosa2541
      @Pedrosa2541 7 лет назад +9

      Yes, but you have to also consider that the Tibetan Plateau can't sustain a sizeable population on their own because of how bare and unfertile is the land. Tibet was always destined to be a state influenced by one of their powerfull neighbours, China or India, just happened that the former was the winning side.

  • @timotg91
    @timotg91 7 лет назад +6

    I love the ending when the far-reaching effects of the battle are discussed. If this ever comes up in future battles, I would like that you include it there as well!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад

      Thank you, will do!

    • @mregoist5045
      @mregoist5045 2 года назад

      @@KingsandGenerals Hello,can you make a video about Aksu battle please,

  • @ttouran
    @ttouran 6 лет назад +3

    I watched this video again, love this channel. Arguably the very best channel on youtube when it comes to historical battles.

  • @crossetler_2184
    @crossetler_2184 7 лет назад +7

    Thanks for these informations guys! I had never heard of this battle, and therefore, I was unaware of it's importance. To think that great shocks that seem to be indecisive, or at least, not so impactating at their time - Manzikert, Lepanto, etc - creates much larger repercussions over time. Once again, thanks. There should be more people acting like you guys in the world. Peace.

  • @hussainpainter52
    @hussainpainter52 6 лет назад +93

    "The Conflict became inevitable". You know it is the start of something epic when you hear this

    • @metivs
      @metivs 5 лет назад +7

      :-D so true! We looove this on Kings and generals.

    • @Ardaagafilimada
      @Ardaagafilimada 4 года назад +3

      yeah it is the best thing to hear because you know there will be an epic showdown

  • @kamilszadkowski8864
    @kamilszadkowski8864 7 лет назад +1093

    Interesting, I've never heard about this events.

    • @hassanabdulsalam131
      @hassanabdulsalam131 7 лет назад +99

      that is why this channel is great

    • @worsethanjoerogan8061
      @worsethanjoerogan8061 7 лет назад +21

      I had, but only recently. It might be less talked about because details about the battle are scarce, sources are conflicted, and it didn't result in much direct territorial changes.

    • @Dragons_Armory
      @Dragons_Armory 7 лет назад +30

      No, they didin't, the Abbasids never extended that far, in fact the Tang and Abbadis quickly became allies afterwards. The current state of Tarim Basin was done by the Karakanid Turks who waged a jihad and took over the region then forcefully converted the locals to Islam.
      Google it

    • @heavenwatcher100
      @heavenwatcher100 7 лет назад +37

      M
      Learn more history before making biased comments. Was China ruled by other ethnicities other than Han for the most part of the history? Come on, from Xia(夏) or Shang (商)to modern PRC. China was only partially ruled in the northern area by minorities in the period of five barbaric uprising(五胡乱华), then Liao(辽) and Jin(金) as well as defeated Japan. Only Mongols and Manchurian/Jurchens managed to take complete control of China in Yuan(元) and Qing dynasties(清).
      Xiongnu(匈奴), Gokturks(突厥汗国), Uyghur(畏兀儿;回鹘)Oirat(瓦剌), and Zungaria(准噶尔) were influential nomadic regimes at the border, but they never managed to establish a recognized dynasty in Chinese heartland. Thus, the combined history of China under non-Han Chinese rule only count for about 1000 years. What about the other 3000 to 4000 years? It's still under the control of Han Chinese.
      If you count total control of China, only Mongols and Jurchens succeeded once respectively, and they were all driven back by Han in their demises. The other major dynasties in Chinese history like Qin(秦), Han(汉), Jin(晋), Song(宋) and Ming(明) are completely ruled by Han Chinese. While Sui(隋) and Tang(唐)are paternally Han ethnicities and use pedigree of their fathers' families instead of their maternal lineages that contain Proto-Mongolic/Turkic/Caucasian genes. Just like you won't describe the kingdom of France is ruled by Austrian or Habsburg if they have mothers or queens from the House of Habsburg.
      Last but not the least, where's your so-called East Turkestan? It only managed to survive in a short period of time during the turmoil of late Qing dynasty or ROC and surrendered quickly as General Zuo Zongtang (Remember the taste/fear of General Tso's chicken? It's named after him) and General Wang Zhen marched back to Xinjiang. Today, there's only Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, but no such East Turkestan. Turkic ethnicities are living better and enjoy greater gender equality in modern China than under the rule of East Turkestan separatists.

    • @michaelmoore4043
      @michaelmoore4043 7 лет назад

      Me too

  • @趙溫
    @趙溫 6 лет назад +3

    What a well-made history documentary!! It is way better than some similar videos you can find on RUclips, made by those who apparently don't know what they are talking about.

  • @beiwang726
    @beiwang726 6 лет назад +371

    Thank you tell the history of Chinese and Arab.I had read it in chinese history book.Chinese and Arab are both great people.

    • @TH-ry2yd
      @TH-ry2yd 4 года назад +19

      Bei Wang
      We were a great people but now 🤦‍♂️💔

    • @soon4476
      @soon4476 4 года назад +29

      @@TH-ry2yd يزلمة اسكت بدك تفضحنا

    • @TH-ry2yd
      @TH-ry2yd 4 года назад +7

      So On
      تفضحنا ؟! ههههه سمعة الكنادر احسن من سمعة العرب واذا بذايقك كلامي فهذا واقع روح حل مشكلتك معو

    • @merasmusgaming7147
      @merasmusgaming7147 4 года назад +1

      Achaemenid Parthian Sassanid Safavid Empires Commie’s happened,

    • @linconnuegladiateur8275
      @linconnuegladiateur8275 4 года назад

      PLEASE SONG FINAL

  • @سؤالوجواب-و5م
    @سؤالوجواب-و5م 6 лет назад +49

    I almost dropped a tear for our great history thanks for this great video

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  6 лет назад +9

      Thanks for watching!

    • @mregoist5045
      @mregoist5045 2 года назад

      @@KingsandGenerals Hello,can you make a video about Aksu battle please? Between Chinese and Arabians forces

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  2 года назад +1

      @@mregoist5045 can you stop posting the same comment?

    • @mregoist5045
      @mregoist5045 2 года назад

      @@KingsandGenerals Oh ,Sorry, I thought you ignored my writing, that's why I had to write many times, I appreciate you attention , I hope you won't ignore my request. Thank you so much.

  • @danyawang3632
    @danyawang3632 5 лет назад +3030

    I am Chinese muslim😂I am the result of the history😂

    • @ekitochin6059
      @ekitochin6059 5 лет назад +27

      khalifirst Can man give up his income to be a western pauper?Hah

    • @xdshang2836
      @xdshang2836 5 лет назад +250

      @Viral Viroli China has millions of muslims , the problem is on the west part ,others are fine

    • @勇士勋章
      @勇士勋章 5 лет назад +89

      It's not only for muslim.
      for⛪for🙏for🎓for everyone.
      communism ing……

    • @abdulrhmanfarhat7291
      @abdulrhmanfarhat7291 5 лет назад +43

      XD shang that’s not true even the han muslim tribes face huge harm them mosques are under 24 hours that’s if nor demolished

    • @dadadadaddada5833
      @dadadadaddada5833 5 лет назад +40

      have you escaped from china

  • @befriendmywater142
    @befriendmywater142 6 лет назад +33

    I learned this battle in school in China. Arabian got the paper making technology from captured workers in Chinese army. There is one Chinese captive whose name is Du huan. He stayed in middle East for about 10 years and finally returned to China. He wrote a book about his experience but unfortunately the book was lost in history, but some of its contents were found in other books. It says he was captured in Talas and forced to join the Arabian army to fight in North Africa. He was allowed to return to home in 761, he then got on board a boat in Red sea and went back to Guangzhou, China via Srilanka.

    • @atahirince
      @atahirince 3 года назад +3

      so interesting ... one day both side of history we will read i think

  • @fjack1588
    @fjack1588 6 лет назад +6

    Great! I have always been interested in the Battle of Talas and always remember the date, but really knew very little about the details, most importantly the role of the Turkish cavalry.

  • @ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo
    @ShivanshNautiyal-hk8uo 7 лет назад +23

    Thank god I subscribed your channel. Made my Sunday

  • @carlchurchill3588
    @carlchurchill3588 7 лет назад +88

    great video - chinese troops are pretty clearly Qin dynasty, not Tang (difference of about a millenia there), but good production as always. Shame theres no medieval chinese mods you could use instead for more accurate units.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +24

      Yep, unfortunately. :-(

    • @Tanakun09
      @Tanakun09 7 лет назад

      Their is a mod on ancient China and middle East but it's for medieval 2 total war. I believe it was called asian empires mod. But it was in chinese language. The mod was based on the late ming dynasty and feature several eastern and steppe faction too

    • @eugeneng7064
      @eugeneng7064 7 лет назад +1

      If the thumbnail can show a Tang era cataphract that would be cool though

    • @heavenwatcher100
      @heavenwatcher100 7 лет назад +11

      Ming(1368-1644) is too late to depict Tang(7th century-10th century) anyway. Tang units are notable for crossbows/heavy bows(连弩/震天弓) and heavy blades (唐刀,陌刀). I assume you can find mods in games like mount and blade.

    • @eugeneng7064
      @eugeneng7064 7 лет назад +5

      SAMAND33 What he mean was that the troops depicted in the video and even the thumbnail, are Qin era troops. The banners in the video themselves even have the character 秦 'Qin' instead of 唐 'Tang'

  • @darkzi1431
    @darkzi1431 5 лет назад +248

    Westerners: We want papers too
    Abbasids: Hold my turban

    • @linconnuegladiateur8275
      @linconnuegladiateur8275 4 года назад +1

      PLEASE SONG FINAL

    • @angelabby2379
      @angelabby2379 4 года назад +2

      the mongols : would u want the song dynasty paper money with that too?

    • @abdallahnada3840
      @abdallahnada3840 4 года назад +2

      @@angelabby2379 1227 Song dynasty:we invited paper money
      Mongols:and we will put it in your a**
      😂😂

    • @ademali8199
      @ademali8199 3 года назад

      While I go get your 📃 papers he did the job 👍

    • @شبحاليوتيب
      @شبحاليوتيب 6 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂

  • @1995ismaeelkhan
    @1995ismaeelkhan 6 лет назад +756

    Afghanistan'nin ozbek turkdan bütün turklera selamlar 🖐🏻

    • @yusufonde5590
      @yusufonde5590 6 лет назад +23

      Sana da selam Turk balasi. Isveçten selam olsun Tum Turk yurtlarina!

    • @TheKingSpartacus
      @TheKingSpartacus 6 лет назад +15

      İstanbul'dan selamlar

    • @firesodiqov2549
      @firesodiqov2549 6 лет назад +9

      Voleykum assalom, bizani afgonistondigi uzbeklarimiza so'g bulishsin

    • @alperenkocyigit6871
      @alperenkocyigit6871 5 лет назад +3

      Aleyküm selam kardeşim

    • @theaccount7235
      @theaccount7235 5 лет назад +1

      Ismaeel Khan aleykum selam kardesim.

  • @joshsun2947
    @joshsun2947 6 лет назад +517

    I am chinese, i respect diferent culture and nations, we should live peacefull together

    • @yousseftyphon3610
      @yousseftyphon3610 6 лет назад +13

      It's impossible the difference of ideologies will always divide us

    • @ekremtunc819
      @ekremtunc819 6 лет назад +11

      @@ayoubkhalil1 still impossible. It is not about culture, language, ethnic or religion differences, it is about us being human. We would still have wars even if we had no difference from each other.

    • @cumpanions8105
      @cumpanions8105 6 лет назад +2

      I thouth China baned youtube...

    • @Courtesyyy
      @Courtesyyy 6 лет назад

      Indeed But not all men Will be willing for that

    • @wisdomleader85
      @wisdomleader85 6 лет назад +1

      Don't be naive. Tribalism is in our blood. People will always find excuses to group up against each other. It's just how a social species like humans compete for resources.

  • @Beluga747
    @Beluga747 5 лет назад +9

    I like these mini lectures so much! The plot, the graphics, the rewind to address multiple accounts, and the fact that you don't butcher all the names. In that vein, 唐 "Tang" sounds like "father," not like "angry."

  • @figo_rma
    @figo_rma 4 года назад +14

    تحية الدولة العباسية دولة العلم والعلماء والصناعة والطب والجيش والفتوحات والنصر ورحم الله هارون الرشيد واسكنه فسيح جنانه
    Greetings to the Abbasid state, the state of science, scholars, industry, medicine, the army, conquests, victory, and may God have mercy, Harun al-Rashid,

  • @mehmetg.5146
    @mehmetg.5146 6 лет назад +282

    Actually this battle is very important for the history of Turks. It triggered many events

    • @the3rdmaster311
      @the3rdmaster311 5 лет назад +15

      muslims ottomans not the Turks

    • @sjahrazed
      @sjahrazed 5 лет назад +2

      It would be interesting if you could explain us more.

    • @BIGMrighthere
      @BIGMrighthere 5 лет назад +63

      "muslims ottomans not the Turks"
      Turkic people, not just people of modern day Turkey. One empire after the next came into fruition; Seljuk Turks, Mamluk Empire, Khilji Dynasty etc. This battle almost breathed a new life into the tribal Turks of central asia. Gave them a vision, I think, they never had. Conquest, power and kingdoms.

    • @o7016-c7i
      @o7016-c7i 5 лет назад +20

      BIGMrighthere the Manluk empire was caccaustion ( i don’t know how to spell it ) but yeah the Turkish people became Muslims and they after that became great in every term,sad though many Turks still hate Arabs even though they are Muslims and historical allies

    • @BIGMrighthere
      @BIGMrighthere 5 лет назад +37

      @@o7016-c7i The Turkic people are a diverse bunch. There are those in central asia, there are also those from the caucuses region as you said, we've had them in medieval India as well. Mamluks were slave soldiers (not like americas idea of slaves doe lol), a lot of them were of turkic origins. Kazakstanis for example are of turkic descent and live in the Caucasus region.
      And you're right, the turks and arabs should have got a long but they allowed themselves to be played by the British. The British played old divide and conquer strategy; pit the Muslims against each other, destroyed the caliphate and walked off as the winner.

  • @bozkurtsss
    @bozkurtsss 6 лет назад +223

    after the battle turks became muslim and served as a mercanery for the abbasids and after a century they took the whole control of the abbasids army. they invade persia and whole middle east and create a seljuk empire.

    • @ahmedislam2580
      @ahmedislam2580 6 лет назад +1

      savaş 751 senesinde oldu türkler anadoluya 1071 de geldi amk araplar türklere üstünlük kurdu

    • @MohammedAli-uf1ek
      @MohammedAli-uf1ek 5 лет назад +8

      @@ahmedislam2580 Araplar, Türkistan da dahil olmak üzere Asya ülkelerini fethi olmasaydı .. Türklerin orijinal evi ... Türkler artık Müslüman olmazdı ..
      Araplar tüm İslam ülkelerinin fethetmişlar

    • @rudman97
      @rudman97 5 лет назад +36

      They invade India too. Remember, Indian kings defeated mighty Abbasids, stopped them at sindh. But, Turks overpowered Indian kingdoms.
      Nomads are very powerful in battle.

    • @ahmedislam2580
      @ahmedislam2580 5 лет назад +8

      @@rudman97 do you know muhammad ibn qasim ?

    • @abdelt5169
      @abdelt5169 5 лет назад +10

      @@rudman97 you wrong , I don't think the indians had won any of their battle against Arabs Muslims !!!

  • @yxb9182
    @yxb9182 4 года назад +175

    Love Arab,from China
    👍👍👍

  • @gangstercats641
    @gangstercats641 5 лет назад +3

    I never know about this history... Now, know new knowledge... Thanks for adding the Malay subtitles... I'll sub your channels

  • @AlfredGanQuan
    @AlfredGanQuan 6 лет назад +113

    Another important impact of this battle was that it helped trigger the infamous An Lushan Rebellion (755 - 763 AD), which marked the decline of the Tang Empire.

    • @shantielyse
      @shantielyse 5 лет назад +1

      AlfredGanQuan hey! by any chance, do you know how the battle of talas led to technological and cultural transfer? I’m thinking it would be gunpowder and paper making, but I’m not sure. Thank you in advance!

    • @MrLi-fd4hs
      @MrLi-fd4hs 5 лет назад +15

      This is just an inconsequential war. The leaders of the Tang Dynasty did not even know that such a war had taken place. What really changed the pattern of Central Asia was Anshi’s chaos

    • @chuekinsiu4667
      @chuekinsiu4667 5 лет назад +2

      An Lushan is a Turk.

    • @muneirovalibas6194
      @muneirovalibas6194 3 года назад +1

      @@MrLi-fd4hs of course its "inconsequential", you guys lost lol losing war over territory that helped secure the Silk Road trade route was anything but "inconsequential".

    • @ryanmarlin2974
      @ryanmarlin2974 2 года назад

      @Communist iron fist lmao, no, absolutely not. The Chinese never ever fought in the middle east. And they only fought against arabs once, in talas.

  • @JerryLiuYT
    @JerryLiuYT 7 лет назад +13

    I never knew of the second account of the battle! Very interesting!

  • @almurabiton
    @almurabiton 6 лет назад +226

    Because of this war Turks joined Islam and they become a superpower for hundreds of years.

    • @almurabiton
      @almurabiton 6 лет назад +78

      @sick turrett
      Wrong, Christian empire which was Byzantium collapsed, and Zoroastrian empire which was Sassanid empire collapsed as well no hope for this to comeback that time, there was Omayad empire then came Abbassid empire and both are Islamic superpower of that time, so next must be Islamic to prevail. Thats what turks did 😊

    • @AERoVALKYRiE
      @AERoVALKYRiE 5 лет назад +2

      they were on their way to become a superpower regardless which religion they adopt. perhaps if they adopted Buddhism, Islam wouldn't be as popular.

    • @paidsurveys1761
      @paidsurveys1761 5 лет назад +14

      @@AERoVALKYRiE No their conversion to Islam was the best thing that could have happened to them. m

    • @inawarminister
      @inawarminister 5 лет назад +1

      @@AERoVALKYRiE if they convert to buddhism or christianity they might have gone the way of Manchu or Bulgars - essentially culturally extinct tho.
      Keep in mind turkish Bulgars =! slavic Bulgarians

    • @-alblowi1550
      @-alblowi1550 5 лет назад +7

      The turk was mangols farmers the Arab save them and they betrayed the arab caliphate

  • @ahmedamar359
    @ahmedamar359 5 лет назад +2

    Just amazing guys how you resume and present our history !! Thanks

  • @OsamaJalil
    @OsamaJalil 7 лет назад +49

    damn that Chinese music, playing with my emotions.. Anyone knows the name?

    • @Turunc_eren
      @Turunc_eren 7 лет назад +3

      Writes in the description :)

  • @bilgetonyukuk5530
    @bilgetonyukuk5530 5 лет назад +429

    Turks. Everywhere.

    • @icemanchambers1207
      @icemanchambers1207 5 лет назад +69

      @@JohnKastoras Nobody is pure blood. Specially Greeks because Turks have conquered your country and today Greeks have at least %15 Turkish Blood

    • @IndoManiac90
      @IndoManiac90 5 лет назад +4

      Cenk Tüneygök Many foreign men also marry and have children with turkic women

    • @IndoManiac90
      @IndoManiac90 5 лет назад +8

      Cenk Tüneygök Thats false, indo-europeans have dominared altaic people many times. In fact the scythians who were likely indo-european speakers mixed alot with north east asian women from the region were turkic people come from, its likely most of the west eurasian Y-dna in those modern turkic tribes come from these indo-european scythian males.

    • @none23517
      @none23517 5 лет назад +7

      too many turks. lol. I am happy to be 100% indian

    • @ضرارابنالازور-ز6د
      @ضرارابنالازور-ز6د 5 лет назад +1

      @@none23517 🤮

  • @axb6061
    @axb6061 7 лет назад +32

    Hey I have a suggestion about the emblems for Chinese nations, but it’s just my opinion so u can disagree as much as u want. I understand that as China did not use national banners in the same way as the west, u use the name of the dynasty in an emblem, although sometimes there was never that exact emblem in use. Instead of using the kaishu 楷书calligraphy font for the characters, you could use the Seal Script (篆体字 zhuantizi)which we’re used on seals and stamps. Sometimes this font was used on banners. It could make the emblems/icons for Chinese armies or nations in your maps more authentic

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +5

      Admittedly, I know very little on this topic, but I will look into that, thank you!

  • @cristianmatheus850
    @cristianmatheus850 5 лет назад +3

    Awesome video!! cheers from Brazil!

  • @aidabagirova4933
    @aidabagirova4933 7 лет назад +8

    I've been waiting for this video for a long time. I enjoyed viewing

  • @johnyricco1220
    @johnyricco1220 7 лет назад +126

    After the Persia king Yazdegerd III was beheaded by the Arabs, his son, Peroz III, the last Sasanian king and a large number of Persians fled to China. The Chinese emperor was married to Peroz’s sister and pledged to restore him to his throne. Peroz fight many battles as a commander of the Tang armies. However China withdrew from Central Asia after the An Lushan Rebellion of 755-763 wiped out a quarter of its population.
    On his death bed Peroz told his people they can never go home and they are to become Chinese. For centuries after his death Peroz’s fiefdom in China was known as The Realm of the Western King.

    • @basilofgoodwishes4138
      @basilofgoodwishes4138 6 лет назад +29

      Johny Ricco This story would make a Good movie.

    • @dildaarad4964
      @dildaarad4964 6 лет назад +25

      no, yazdegerd iii was not beheaded by arabs. He was killed by his own armies which refused to attack Arabs again.

    • @postyoda
      @postyoda 6 лет назад +8

      This historically inaccurate on so many levels and was just popularized in pop history books in modern times.

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 6 лет назад +5

      @@dildaarad4964 thats what the muslims told you

    • @gemilee6657
      @gemilee6657 6 лет назад +1

      CCTV made this story in a documentary

  • @rayanhey2411
    @rayanhey2411 7 лет назад +40

    I have a history exam tomorrow!!!!
    Cool.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +4

      What is the topic? :-)

    • @rayanhey2411
      @rayanhey2411 7 лет назад +8

      The history of Islamic empires

    • @tancreddehauteville9983
      @tancreddehauteville9983 7 лет назад +2

      Rashidun,Umayyad,Abbasid,Fatimid,Cordoba,Almoravid,Almohad,Ayyubid,Mamluk,Khwarezmia,Seljuk,Ifriqiya,Ghurid,Ghaznavid,Delhi,Khilji,Qabajah,Mughal,Golden Horde,Timurid,Hafsid,Ottomans,Safavids,Mali,Mysore,Tugluqid,Rum and many many more...

    • @rayanhey2411
      @rayanhey2411 7 лет назад

      Azaz Ahmad You got me here I wanted to say Arabian Empires

    • @tancreddehauteville9983
      @tancreddehauteville9983 7 лет назад

      Rayan Hachem don't worry nearly half of the ones mentioned are Arab 😄

  • @yohopirate
    @yohopirate 5 лет назад

    5:44 Fantastic details, I had not seen this before, well done! Also 8:38, it seems you guys have even incorporated the modao, amazing work

  • @VforArt
    @VforArt 7 лет назад +110

    wow, super cool episode!
    if its about Asia.... i wish we could allso see something about Korea or Japan (and ofc. more on Mongols)

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +6

      Planning to. :-)

    • @VforArt
      @VforArt 7 лет назад

      i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/699/432/28e.gif

    • @jovenus20
      @jovenus20 7 лет назад +3

      Imjin war please

    • @heavenwatcher100
      @heavenwatcher100 7 лет назад +9

      jovenus20 Sounds like a good idea. This war does shape the rules of East Asia. Just hope there will be less number of triggered nationalists under this topic. (China-Japan-Korea trilateral relations are messes.)

    • @yatriprasad
      @yatriprasad 7 лет назад

      And more of India also please

  • @plaingroom1
    @plaingroom1 7 лет назад +37

    As an Arab they never taught us about this battle but thank you really to spot light this battle.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +2

      Thank you for watching :)

    • @NoName-yy1jx
      @NoName-yy1jx 6 лет назад +2

      Your such a lier or you didnt go to school

    • @ahmad_mido
      @ahmad_mido 6 лет назад +2

      talk about yourself

    • @vasilileung2204
      @vasilileung2204 6 лет назад

      Nobody was taught this battle in school lol it’s such an obscure but cool event

    • @cumhuravkaroglu6658
      @cumhuravkaroglu6658 2 года назад

      Bize Türkiye'de öğretiyorlar. Araplarla birlikte kazandığımız savaş olarak biliyoruz. Maalesef Araplara Osmanlıya ihanet eden Mehmet Ali Paşa ve Şerif Hüseyin'den başka kim öğretiliyor ki?

  • @ss-fv8lt
    @ss-fv8lt 6 лет назад +408

    لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله

    • @alfredthepatientxcvi
      @alfredthepatientxcvi 5 лет назад +5

      Same words, no meaning except extremism.

    • @vitaminc864
      @vitaminc864 5 лет назад +11

      Alfred The West is dying, we must save it Tge west is dying cause your not even religious your all gays...
      To retain western civilization u need Christianity

    • @Sir_Wolfoo
      @Sir_Wolfoo 5 лет назад +10

      Muhammad never existed, Islam is a tool and a poison made by the Arabs to control people

    • @theimmortalemperor3605
      @theimmortalemperor3605 5 лет назад +32

      @@Sir_Wolfoo why do you have an arabic name

    • @tagizademirasim
      @tagizademirasim 5 лет назад +25

      @@Sir_Wolfoo shut up donkey

  • @iqbalsaufi1675
    @iqbalsaufi1675 4 года назад +3

    Thx for Malay Subtitles, this video bring more knowledge to me and all of us
    7:56 the knowledge start spreading to my brain

  • @ZhangtheGreat
    @ZhangtheGreat 6 лет назад +31

    Thank you Kings and Generals for covering this battle. It's sad that this battle is rarely talked about, because it's one of the most significant in world history as it altered control over Central Asia forever. China had (on again, off again) impacted that region since the Han Dynasty centuries earlier, but the Tang's defeat at Talas permanently transferred Central Asia out of Chinese hands. Subsequent Chinese dynasties (except the Yuan, but that was ruled by the Mongols) would never again gain any control over Central Asia.

    • @剑心符文
      @剑心符文 2 года назад +2

      新疆不是中亚?

    • @1212-m6b
      @1212-m6b 2 года назад +2

      @@剑心符文 East Turkestan is NOT china. UYGURS are NOT han chinese.

    • @georgelee5656
      @georgelee5656 Год назад

      这场战争并不是能真正影响中国对中亚的控制,真正影响的是五年后的安史之乱,这场帝国内部的叛乱使帝国抽调了几乎所有的军队回去平叛,使唐帝国再也无力继续向西前进了

    • @darfri
      @darfri Год назад

      中国是56个民族@@1212-m6b

    • @tomorrowsun8491
      @tomorrowsun8491 9 месяцев назад

      @@1212-m6b we govern it

  • @Umut_9182
    @Umut_9182 4 года назад +237

    Both sides afraid of fighting each other:
    Turks:
    Allow us to introduce ourselves

    • @yifan91
      @yifan91 4 года назад +23

      Sneaky betrayal attack

    • @سامالعربي-غ4ع
      @سامالعربي-غ4ع 4 года назад +10

      Wrong

    • @allahslabgrave
      @allahslabgrave 4 года назад +1

      ourselves*

    • @Aymen-qo8dz
      @Aymen-qo8dz 4 года назад +6

      I don’t think so
      Not afraid but the powers are the same and Turks come when the tang army Are tired

    • @rojak2008
      @rojak2008 4 года назад +6

      @J the turks were fighting side by side with chinese dynasties. They only get treated badly by the communists.

  • @Abdbd55
    @Abdbd55 7 лет назад +6

    I would like to thank you for and fahad for his suggestion and I suggest the battle of Hattin led by Salahuddin and the legendary battle Ain Goliath, led by Saifuddin Qatz

  • @SAYLAW88
    @SAYLAW88 4 года назад +3

    Hi im from in Kazakhstan Province Talas.
    It runs through the city of Taraz in Zhambyl Province of Kazakhstan and vanishes in the Muyunkum Desert before reaching Lake Aydyn.

  • @houssine167
    @houssine167 5 лет назад +161

    الإسلام دين ارتضاه الله لعباده،وهو الحل الوحيد لكل مشاكل العالم حاليا، فهو رحمة ومنهاج حياة. وطراز دقيق.

    • @AbdullahAnRd
      @AbdullahAnRd 5 лет назад +24

      هو دين الحق والعدل ؛ ليت بني آدم يعرفوه حق معرفة كي ينصفوه بحق ، فغايته هو المنشودة من كل الناس ، كيف لا وهو الوحي الخالص من رب الكون .

    • @kareemtheeb1478
      @kareemtheeb1478 5 лет назад +1

      @@snakex555 بربري.

    • @user-sl9lm3dy2s
      @user-sl9lm3dy2s 5 лет назад +21

      @@snakex555
      هل تعتقد أن العري والعلمانية هيا الحل ياحفيد داروين...؟

    • @user-sl9lm3dy2s
      @user-sl9lm3dy2s 5 лет назад +8

      @Ger Many
      بل تركيبه عقليتك هيا سبب تخلف شخصيتك وجعلتك تعتقد أن الإسلام به تناقص وما الي ذلك
      كل الكتب بها أخطأ الا القرآن ذلك الكتب لا ريب فيه هدا للمتقين
      الله يصلح حالك يجاهل

    • @manuelcalavera7272
      @manuelcalavera7272 5 лет назад +1

      @@snakex555
      لماذا يوجد سلاحف نينجا في دبي؟؟

  • @olliewalsh8706
    @olliewalsh8706 7 лет назад +5

    I’ve never been interested in this period of history... I am now, thankyou

  • @monosodiumglutemate8216
    @monosodiumglutemate8216 6 лет назад +11

    Better than watching a war movie. Love your videos. Though the paper making technology wasn't stolen, technology was transferred through the silk route trades, and books became a tradable commodity in those days. But thanks for epic videos. Really enjoy your work.

  • @abdulhafizkedir5712
    @abdulhafizkedir5712 4 года назад +2

    This channel is like no other.!!👍👍

  • @Saifuddeen1000
    @Saifuddeen1000 6 лет назад +30

    I'm from Kyrgyzstan, Talas

  • @nikolamaksic4790
    @nikolamaksic4790 7 лет назад +6

    Sweet. Curently reading Rene Grousset's Empire of the steps. Amazing book, gives europe- centric history better understanding of " barbarian invasions" and " bigger picture" historic view.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +3

      I have been told to read it by a friend. :-)

    • @nikolamaksic4790
      @nikolamaksic4790 7 лет назад +3

      Kings and Generals. I am big fan of Tamerlans "work", so reading it is quite an enjoyment. Big recomendation for all history nerds outhere . Even tough it dates pre WWII and many ,mostly archeological discoveries came afterwards it is still masterpiece of step history

  • @dindin5706
    @dindin5706 5 лет назад +47

    Salam aleikum from Kyrgyzstan to our Arab brothers!

    • @TH-ry2yd
      @TH-ry2yd 4 года назад +3

      Din Din
      وعليكم السلام ❤️

    • @carbondioxide5719
      @carbondioxide5719 4 года назад +4

      Wa alikum salam

    • @toipe5490
      @toipe5490 4 года назад +4

      وعليكم السلام😘

    • @th0r_0dinson
      @th0r_0dinson 4 года назад +4

      وعليكم السلام أخي ❤❤❤

    • @user-sl9lm3dy2s
      @user-sl9lm3dy2s 4 года назад +4

      Salam Kyrgyzstan from Egypt
      وعليكم السلام

  • @dipro001
    @dipro001 5 лет назад +3

    I am so impressed by your coverage on Muslim and Hindu history. Please keep up.

  • @cryptoption7757
    @cryptoption7757 7 лет назад +19

    Hi ! Please do the battle of Ain jalout between mamluks and mongols !!!

    • @abdurahman90982
      @abdurahman90982 7 лет назад +7

      100% they will get lot of views for this battle, the decisive defeat of the mongols for the first time

    • @FallenAngelAbaddon
      @FallenAngelAbaddon 7 лет назад +2

      Urban Student Prepper So can we, now fuck off.

    • @MrSami-tv6vl
      @MrSami-tv6vl 6 лет назад

      Natashark dodo I watch videos like .Roman empires invasions. Mongol empire invasions . Chinese empire invasion ...extra and I never complain . sometimes I don't even find videos about Muslims invasions . But when Muslims give a title about a battle. A racist like you come and give his opinion to something not even close to argue with .this is a history channel a very great history channel .no lies and bullshit . There is a lot of other channels don't do anything about Islam . goodbye 😐😐😐

    • @bilghuerlikhon1794
      @bilghuerlikhon1794 6 лет назад

      binima bina
      How hulaghu khan fucked your stupid caliph?

  • @fahdimtiaz7523
    @fahdimtiaz7523 7 лет назад +7

    Would really like to see a video on the battle of Ain Jalut.

  • @mohasalim8649
    @mohasalim8649 5 лет назад +327

    Arabs Vs. Chinese
    Not so much talked about!
    Peace t to China from an Arab

    • @Horonos119
      @Horonos119 4 года назад +10

      You can be Arab but didn't an Muslim

    • @KJ-is5ug
      @KJ-is5ug 4 года назад +1

      The Arabs saw the Great Wall of China and immediately retreat lol

    • @aleembaksh1880
      @aleembaksh1880 4 года назад +64

      @@KJ-is5ug
      The battle happened at Talas in central Asia, no where near the Arab or Chinese homelands just on the edge of their empires.

    • @zhenliu2321
      @zhenliu2321 4 года назад +6

      But many powers are hoping for the china-arabic confliction

    • @jekesan4221
      @jekesan4221 4 года назад +13

      It's one of rare occasions where Arabs and Chinese conflicted

  • @hoodclassicsofcalifornia
    @hoodclassicsofcalifornia 4 года назад +5

    This is a big underrated battle in history. It's the greatest most powerful empire's of the century(8th century)going at each other randomly in the middle of Asia. 3 empires all different in culture but the mightiest in the world at the time.

    • @georgelee5656
      @georgelee5656 Год назад +1

      This is because the rulers of China were not very concerned with the continued expansion of the empire, we did not have a strong interest in areas unsuitable for farming, and the war did not affect the stability and strength of the empire. It was also because the Chinese rulers did not know very well what the world was like in Central Asia further to the west, which was too far away for China.

  • @kespec
    @kespec 6 лет назад +186

    turks, arabs, tibetians, chinese. this is like the ultimate showdown.

    • @ahmedislam2580
      @ahmedislam2580 6 лет назад +43

      @abcde fghij mongols are learning ride a horse at that time LoL

    • @CLWu-qm9wq
      @CLWu-qm9wq 5 лет назад +7

      and Chinese general Gao Xianzhi is a Korean descent

    • @AERoVALKYRiE
      @AERoVALKYRiE 5 лет назад +6

      @abcde fghij not yet, you will see them few hundred years later. as for the players, it would just be the Mongols vs everyone else

    • @ahmedislam2580
      @ahmedislam2580 5 лет назад +16

      @@luisromanlegionaire mongols were lucky because Muslims at that time they were fighting within themselves if they come b.c 700 we can destroy the mongols
      and already we destroyed them battle of ain jalut

    • @ahmedislam2580
      @ahmedislam2580 5 лет назад +9

      @@luisromanlegionaire abbasids win the wars because the bureaucracy was in the hands of the Arabs after the persians took the bureaucracy and abbasids falled

  • @saberduma3848
    @saberduma3848 7 лет назад +7

    Cool video! Can you make videos on Tang-Turk War, Tang-Goguryeo War, Mongol-conquest of Southern Song China, and Imjin War?

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  7 лет назад +2

      Thank you. Not an expert on the Chinese history, but I will look into that.

    • @saberduma3848
      @saberduma3848 7 лет назад +1

      Thank you!

  • @omirbayakhmetov805
    @omirbayakhmetov805 6 лет назад +18

    Hello. I'm from Kazakhstan. When Arabs came to CA, turkic nations didn't understand fought with them. Then when Chine Empire came, arabs came anf helped turkic nations. After Atlah battles, turkic nations reverted to Islam peacefully. Converting to Islam started in 752 and ended in 13-14 century. Also some chinese people reverted to Islam. They are dungans now who live in Kazahstan, Kyrgyzstan and China

    • @ebuuuu2833
      @ebuuuu2833 6 лет назад +1

      You must learn something about Qutayba ibn Muslim.

    • @orbit1894
      @orbit1894 6 лет назад +2

      Peacefully? Rather forcefully id say, there were two big massacres committed against Turks by Arabs to convert them to Islam, and Turks were sold into slavery to serve in the abbasid army, get your facts right.

    • @chengejshi5523
      @chengejshi5523 6 лет назад

      Mate, you have to know how those Dungans did in China and why did they come to your country. :

    • @huanhuang311
      @huanhuang311 4 года назад

      Peacefully? Are you kidding? So many battles were fought, peoples slaughtered, and cultures destroyed over the centuries to follow!

    • @huanhuang311
      @huanhuang311 4 года назад

      And Dungans fled China only until 19th century.

  • @williamtheconqueror863
    @williamtheconqueror863 3 года назад

    Very nice video!
    It is recommended that you get to know Su Dingfang, another general of the Tang Empire, and I also look forward to your making a video about Su Dingfang. thanks.

  • @muratlokmanoglu
    @muratlokmanoglu 6 лет назад +16

    The wrong politics of the Chinese have brought the Turks to the Arabs. Battle of Talas was the most effective reflection of it. Another educational presentation with correct informations. Respect your will. Thank you

  • @selimkahraman5582
    @selimkahraman5582 5 лет назад +25

    this war affected all world history and Turkıc history

  • @SultanSalahddin
    @SultanSalahddin 6 лет назад +85

    As an Arab i am very surprised how we had such a great minded leaders in the past and how dumb and Unworthy we are in the modren Days ...

    • @someone-wi4xl
      @someone-wi4xl 6 лет назад +30

      بعقيلتك المنكسرة و الخنوعة لن تنهض الأمة
      أعمل و دعك من التثبيط

    • @SultanSalahddin
      @SultanSalahddin 6 лет назад +13

      @@someone-wi4xl حقك علي .... لكن بلا شك هذه الاوقات اوقات مظلمة .

    • @kareemtheeb1478
      @kareemtheeb1478 5 лет назад +49

      God does not change people untill they change themselves.

    • @abdalrahmanalassaf7989
      @abdalrahmanalassaf7989 4 года назад +6

      طيب اسطب تعليقك لأنك بتبين إنه نحن العرب ضعاف، كل الشعوب مرة بهيك مرحلة اشطب تعليقك المخيب للأمل أحسن!

    • @SultanSalahddin
      @SultanSalahddin 4 года назад +1

      @@abdalrahmanalassaf7989 مافي داعي بالاخر مين انا و انت ؟! مجرد تعليق يعبر عن راي بسيط

  • @HengSaoQianJun
    @HengSaoQianJun 5 лет назад +72

    One of the most amazing battle ever happened in Asia or even in the world in my humble opinion. The clash between two of the biggest empires in the world at that time, Tang army was definitely not to be easily mess with; if it is not the betrayal of their allied force, who knows what the outcome would be.

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 2 года назад +15

      it would have definetly been a win for the Tangs. granted the arabs were probably better in skill but the tangs teamwork and hard sheilds prevented them from suffering against the Arabs

    • @Axrector
      @Axrector 2 года назад +3

      similar to the early days Romans, China would absorb new cultures, capable generals would adopt their fighting styles, making new settlers get use to new climate and terrain

    • @neyou6940
      @neyou6940 2 года назад

      @@thekinghmimidou7001 Good joke

    • @剑心符文
      @剑心符文 Год назад +1

      ​@@williamrobert9898阿拉伯有屁技术?

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 Год назад

      @@剑心符文 ???

  • @spikelol9928
    @spikelol9928 7 лет назад +69

    congrats to my turkic ancestor, by the way in our school program in Kazakhstan we study this episode of history. Hi to my turkic friends.

    • @bakdakal
      @bakdakal 7 лет назад +2

      Salem bauyrym!

    • @ekingunay
      @ekingunay 7 лет назад +3

      Uğurlar olsun kardeşim

    • @Baibars-xq7vi
      @Baibars-xq7vi 7 лет назад +3

      Qardashim sana da salamlar.

    • @bilghuerlikhon1794
      @bilghuerlikhon1794 6 лет назад

      Daisy Wong
      Chinese arent we brothers and never since 639 JIESHEQHUAI

    • @yoshida.takashi
      @yoshida.takashi 6 лет назад +4

      Daisy Wong Turkic People are East Asians who moved Westwards but they are not Chinese. West Asian Turks like Anatolians, Azerbaijan ... are not Ethnic Turkic only in Language. They are Turkified Turkic People. The Turks in Central Asia are more related with Ancient Turkic People but they are an Admixture between Turkic, Mongol Tribes and some an Admixture between Iranian people like Sogdians. The Most Ethnic Turkic People are Salar they shared most common Haplogroups with Ancient Turkic People.
      Turkic Haplogroups
      Haplogroup D, O2, O3, C
      Modern Turks have Sogdian r1a from Iranian Tribes in Central Asia.
      West Asian Turks J2 Typical for Middle Eastern. R1b Typical for West European. G Typical for People in Caucasia and E1a for North Africans. Same thing in Azerbaijan. The Majority is non Turkic.
      The Turkic People in West Asia were since Ancient Times an Minority. The Elite Class was Turkic in every Khagante in West Asia. Cumans, Bolgars ... were all non Turkic in Ethnicity. They absorbed Turkic Culture and Language thats all.

  • @demistr7435
    @demistr7435 6 лет назад +204

    Chinese history is always interesting.

    • @hwasiaqhan8923
      @hwasiaqhan8923 5 лет назад +20

      Screaming Wind Culture revolution did not wipe out all the cultured Chinese. And Han culture is reviving today in China, talking about connections with the past peoples, Turkish people have less than 15% ancient turk DNA, which means Turkish are conquered Europeans assimilated by East Asians.

    • @HengSaoQianJun
      @HengSaoQianJun 5 лет назад +6

      @@screamingwind3559 The cultural revolution did not erase all their culture and histories, while some are lost but most of the cultures destroyed back then are retrieved today

    • @storklee8223
      @storklee8223 5 лет назад +3

      @@screamingwind3559 bullshit

    • @木目心人尔
      @木目心人尔 5 лет назад +2

      The Chinese always call themselves the descendants of the Loong(Chinese dragon), the descendants of the Yan and Huang Emperors , and you are not Chinese, not qualified to speak.

    • @zoezou4835
      @zoezou4835 5 лет назад +1

      @@screamingwind3559 every dynasty change would kill millions.cultural cant be killded. there are billions Chinese.

  • @Barakelde__kg
    @Barakelde__kg 4 года назад +11

    Talas is one of the 6 regions of Kyrgyzstan. When i was child i used to hang out with my friends nearby that Talas river

  • @somefakeintellectual9544
    @somefakeintellectual9544 7 лет назад +110

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