The greatest Asheke Rasul (Ashek means lover)(the one who love Prophet Muhammad S.A.W the most after loving God) of this age went to a wedding party in a slightly muddy dress. Seeing this, the doorman pushed him hard and threw him on the ground and started cursing him. The greatest lover of Prophet Muhammad S.A.W (of this age) told the doorman that he was invited to the wedding ceremony politely.Although he was a young man, he did not take revenge on the doorman. When the doorman started apologizing (calling that young man as "Sir") to That young man as he has done very bad behaviour with that man(without knowing that he was invited) .But the young and strong man politely hugged the doorman and said, "You are my sir, because I have just come to eat.But You are guarding such a big wedding house burning in the sun. Your mind is very soft. Maybe for some reason you are in a little trouble. You can tell me. "When the doorman started crying, the young man wiped away the tears of that doorman.This is real Islam. The people who love Prophet Muhammad (SAW) the most after loving God(one and only) the most(they believe in peace, not in Violence). So do research about Islam and do not believe the false.... **Love is not a sin. However, Islam has never given anyone the right to threaten the life of a girl or a boy by pretending to love her for months, year after year (with the intention))for not marrying a girl or a boy. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: It is necessary for every believing man and woman to acquire (knowledge). -(Sunan Ibn Majah)...However, it cannot be done through obscenity by violating the veil. Islam will never tolerate violation of womens' right.. Islam has kept women away from all dangers with absolute compassion. Islam will not take responsibility for those who make mistakes. When women's rights are violated, Islam roars like a lion.(which normal people can not see) .
Can you make a video about the battle of Didgori and David the Builder? The Battle of Didgori was fought between the armies of the Kingdom of Georgia and the Great Seljuq Empire
One notion. You should say catholic states instead of christian states, as crusades were waged against christians as well. The Waldensians were one of the christian groups that were persecuted by the catholic church
What really took the cake was at 8:59, when the graphic showing al-Qalanisi chronicling the crusades went right to left, because Arabic is written right to left. Outstanding attention to detail as always! You guys deliver once again!
As a person born in Orthodox Christian European country Bulgaria where along with most if not all of Europe its written left to right so with right hand it's funny cause I use the left hand to write.
I love the brutal simplicity of medieval and early modern ethnography. Europeans tended to call all Middle Eastern Muslims "Turks", and it also turns out people in the Middle East just called European Christians "Franks".
Nomenclature in Aniquity and Medieval age is very debatable and problematic to comprehend and study because that was very beggining of concept of naming stereotypisation of the unknown cultures. Muslims no matter what ethnicity depend on historical age are called variously by non-muslims. In christian Europe they were known as "Saracens"; "Moors"; "Turks", etc. In other hand Christians were called "Rum" (Rhomeian/Greek) and "Frank" (Probably name for all Catholics).
It is always nice to see different perspectives on a single event and not just one. I think more people would be better off doing this. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
I think even European had misconceptions about the Crusades. For example the belief that the crusades participated by younger sons who had no inheritance.
This not a different prespective. It's a cherry picked account that doesn't talk about crusader atrocities amd portrayed muslim account as biased and corrupted by personal experiences. It belittles Muslim scholar as naive enough to make their opinion based on narrow mindedness and ignorance.
The crusades are rarely talked about from the Muslim perspective, so I found this video very interesting, thank you for bringing it and I hope you take more videos of this type
Hence the importance of translation. For instance, as an Arab I always wondered about the views of the west on muslim conquests, since all what we read comes from the muslim point of view.
That’s not correct, there are thousands of books and drama plays and tv shows and poets about the uncivilized brutal and savage invasions “Franks” did against different Islamic states in the medieval period and about the heroic battle such as Hittin and about the significant muslim figures of that time. But, who would translate that.
@@mariomaz0124wel I sa a video of kings and generals that first moslims go in to Spain then wanted to go in Frans but the deed blundering and stuf in France so the France acted against those blundering and defeated a Muslim invader. Later on the crusade happened.
@@Solus94we’re talking a thousand years ago at that point there’s no right of land because the land was ruled by a king and his nobles and the people living there were just resources
@@scottanos9981 lol so typical. If they made videos focused on Christian or European matters, you wouldn't say something like that. But if they focus on Islam it can only be because they are being sponsored and somehow propaganda and not because they find it interesting.
@@Redfield199 Exactly, there are channels like BazBattles who never make Islam focused videos or cover Islamic battles but cover sometimes only the battles which Muslims lost. No one calls them out for being Christian centric or having shady sponsorship.
This is why accurate and impartial history education is so vital. Knowledge lives in the brain, while legends live in the heart, with hatred looming in it's cellar. Thank you Kings and Generals for the service you do to humankind!
While the scientific approach to historical events is vital, legend and mythology is very important too. Myths get a bad connotation these days, buts they are the force which gives a society cohesion and willpower to fight through difficult times. What would be of the Reconquista without the myths of Pelagio and El Cid? Learning the science of history is not abou debunking myths more than it’s to understand why they exist.
It seems like the Arab view about the Franks isn’t really much different from the ancient Romans and Greeks, who thought the cold climate of Gaul and Germany is what made them uncivilised, but also what made them great warriors at the same time.
@@aokiaoki4238 Yeah Romans thought Gauls and Germans made great warriors caused they lived in harsh, cold climates with little luxury. Aristotle also believed climate determined what people were like. *Aristotle writes in his Politics 7.1327b that the peoples of Europe and colder climates are naturally full of spirit, but they lack intelligence and skill, so they live in freedom, but they are incapable of building great political institutions.* *He goes on to contrast European peoples with the peoples of Asia and warmer climates, who he says possess great intelligence and skill, but lack spirit, so they are able to build mighty empires, but they live in perpetual servitude to despots. Finally, he concludes that the Greeks, who live in between the two continents and the two climates naturally have all the best qualities of both and are therefore fit to rule over all other peoples* The 14th century scholar Ibn Khaldun also thought Franks and Slavs were dumb because they lived in a harsh (savage) climate, writing: “The country of the Franks is situated in the cold, northern part of the world, along with the Khazars, Alans, and Turks. It faces out to the northern part of the Enclosed Sea. The natural climate of that land would, naturally, lead to people dumb and ignorant like animals, and many people of that land like the Slavs know no religion and dress in animal skins. But some nations of the Franks and Slavs, like some Turks and Ethiopians (who live in similarly savage climate), received religious law in old times and kept to it."
@@joellaz9836 Full of spirit doesn't mean great warriors, rather emotional and undisciplined according to Pausanias. Byzantines beleived the same. I haven't find any Medieval source describing them as good warriors.
@@aokiaoki4238 If that was the case, Byzantines would not have hired the Varangian Guard and other Latinkons. Europeans have always been great warriors, from Antiquity to nowadays.
This is why I prefer Kings and Generals to Armchair Historian. "From the other perspective" videos here are actually diverse and accurate, and videos cover a very wide range of topics from areas like India and Arabia that deserve more attention. Thank you!!
It's like which came first? The chicken or the egg. I suppose you can go back to when modern humans came from the Middle East and replaced the Neanderthals.
I watched Fog of War in which Earl Morris interviews McNamara. What I found interesting is that McNamara said if we had lost World War 2 Americans would have been put on trial for war crimes. He cites our bombing of cilvilans and compares cities in Japan that we wiped out in similar size to Amerian cities. I would also add our unrestricted submarine warfare. On The Media (it about what exactly you think it is). Talked about bias being more than political. You also get narritive bias in which framing can make the subject more sympathetic.
True words. Just look at the 1nd and 2nd WW as a single conflict or the continuing war of the people against the elites since the American and French Revolution wich hit an early apex with the introduction of communist states and the modern hypercapitalism. Unfortunely were currently losing the war...(qoute from warren buffet)
For history enthusiasts, recommend the book called "The Crusades through Arab Eyes" from Amin Maalouf. The book is really good at explaining the people's situation and political state in muslim nations.
"Major cities of the Islamic world like Baghdad hosted hundreds of thousands of inhabitants while Paris and London hosted twenty thousand each".. I know it's a bit away from the original topic but as a person who's born in Iraq It breaks my heart to see what this great nation has become nowadays .. Hopefully we will build our homeland one day .. pardon my poor English btw ( My second language😅) Edit : I can keep taking about my point of view forever and people will still misunderstand me🤦🏻♂️ Edit2 : please read my reply regarding (US/IRAN) carefully then I will answer your questions. Edit 3 :- I'm not replying to anyone one anymore💀
Your English is excellent. And I also hope to see a strong, prosperous Iraq again, with Baghdad as a world city! Brotherly greetings from the US! (Also, I know saying 'sorry' is nothing compared to the pain and suffering my country inflicted on yours, but I hope we can make it up to you somehow)
Really interesting video. On a related note, are you maybe planning to do a similar one on the Muslim perspective on the Mongol invasions? They were far more destructive to the Muslim world than the crusades so they should have left a far more permanent impression, right?
Well, I am a Muslim and an Arab and I can tell you that they are barely mentioned or even remembered. I don't even think a lot of people even know about them
@@TheSirBrainbug They were... For the people that lived back then. Nowadays Muslim propaganda may focus more on, like the other person said, "the Horrible and Evil West".
I think the other reason why the mongol is not mentioned much is probably because the ilkhanate is eventually became muslim as well But this is just my opinion
At the end of the video you mention that the crusades don't have much impact on modern culture, I believe the levantine crusades really don't, but the reconquista basically formed the Iberian culture and has a great impact on Latin American culture. Looking for a video about that in the future.
@@carlospargamendez4784 the motivation was to restore christianity, and rule iberia as a roman culture state insteand of an arab muslim one. yes its ok to consider it a reconquista.
@@carlospargamendez4784 historians generally agree that there were several ideas behind reconquista including the arguments here so both are true, but creating christian kingdoms was a big goal. That's why many Muslims either converted or were expelled.
You really have to respect that they make these high quality videos without showing any bias towards any side and with complete objectivity. Another job well done.
@@andreydragomirov8559 They are just showing the perspective of the Arab kingdoms, everyone has their own view on things. If you look at the videos on the Crusades, they show it from the Crusader perspective. If you are arguing about the science and stuff, well yes, the Ayubidds were fairly farther ahead in sciences and medicine than Europe in the early crusades. Both religions were also prone to violence and to our eyes archaic laws. I understand you are probably anti-islam, but this is a view on history from primary sources, not an opinion video.
@@andreydragomirov8559 yes... none so far... you can see they are open to accept correction/s... if you have any correction to do, you can specify the exact wrong and tell the specific correction/s...
@@andreydragomirov8559 "exaggerating european evil doings..." the thing is, its you who interpreted the video-lecture as such... the message in the video is that, just as there is "jihad" by muslim nations, there is "crusaders" by west europe nations... understandably/naturally, any story has bits and pieces added otherwise it cannot be a story or a lecture but a recitation of statements/sentences...
I think they are biased. just listen to the video when they said 'only europian perspectives are described'. as a muslim raised in a muslim country I already know many books were written and videos were made on this topic from our perspective. but K&G simply ignored that. this only means they are refering to themselves as a western channel covering their topics from western perspective only. so they can't be neutral or unbiased. I can also point many times when they were clearly not neutral at all. for instance compare their video on the arab culture before Islam to their video on the danish people. in the video they made about early muslim war with the byzantine they openly tried their best to show the muslim victory in the battle of yarmok as a lie. even tampering with the animation. not to mention they went as far as blaming Saladin for the massacre of Acre! if you want to see a 'unbiased' western video on muslim history, I recommend that you watch History March. just compare their video on the battle of yarmok to that of K&G and you will know why you are wrong to think this channel is unbiased
@@andreydragomirov8559 You reduce christian warfare to 300 years of crusades, and reduce jihad to warfare. You shouldn’t be talking about ”authority to lecture”.
@@swellerferret2506 Nobody blames terror attacks on the crusades only the stupid people do that. It was the dismantlement of the Ottoman Empire in the early 20th Century into states which did not align to religious or ethnic people groups. If you look at the 50s 60s and early 70s the middle east generally was stable and prosperous. The subsequent unnecesary wars in Iraq caused the most problems as the US stayed in the country years after they had won. Then many weak states such as Iraq and Syria had a lot of instability during the Arab spring a western supported ideal. The disbanded Iraqi Army went to many extremist groups after 2011. And you seriously want make me believe that 9/11 was actually done by Al qaeda. If you even research enough the Taliban agreed to had over bin laden but the US did not want that. Focus on your own countrys extremists who shoot schools and riot at the capital building looting at blm protests ect. Most death in the 20th century and 21st century were caused by Christians and Athiests who were at the top
@@swellerferret2506 Haha, stupid old logic as always. Now imagine this; either Byzantines or Sassanids have defeated their foe and formed a massive kingdom, what do you guess they would do next, sitting beside a potential world power (i.e. the arab caliphate, had they stopped their attacks beyond jordan)? They would've definitely invaded the arabs or forcefully made their vassal eventually weakening them. The key point was of timing. The arabs attacked at the best time possible. Had they not, they would have been become slaves in the coming centuries. Only a fool blames someone of invading for balance of power( provided there is no massacre or there is no active peace treaty ) Even though the arabs were not waiting for the imperial empires to weaken, they just happen to have their matters sorted out the instant the empires were exhausted. Anyone blaming muslims for invading christian lands is either islamophobic or a complete idiot since the latter would have done the same
@@swellerferret2506 I have read many accounts of arab conquests such as those written by Hugh N. Kennedy and Robert G. Hoyland but I never came across your accusations. The era of Amir Ibn al-As al-Sahmi showed prominent expansion in Egypt. Upon entering the surrendered city of heliopolis, monophysite Christians that had suffered on-and-off persecution at the hands of Constantinople, rose up against their Roman oppressors. Although they were unhappy of the jizya tax upon them. This is the summary of the accounts of a renowned historian. While the accusations you present are the writings of bishop john of nikiu, a person who after seeing a humiliating fall of his Christendom was furious against the Muslims. If you take a look at his volume; the chronicles of John, you can clearly see the lack of continuity and the lack of interest in areas not fancy to him. In his book he claims that he has described the history right from Adam to Arab conquests of egypt, but in reality, he has just written on topics that were concerned to him with exemplary biasness and prejudice. He has not even mentioned once the brutalities of roman realm and theodore, the ruler of heliopolis. Your call
they are not neutral. just listen to the video when they said 'only europian perspectives are described'. as a muslim raised in a muslim country I already know many books were written and videos were made on this topic from our perspective. but K&G simply ignored that. this only means they are refering to themselves as a western channel covering their topics from western perspective only. so they can't be neutral. I can also point many times when they were clearly not neutral at all. for instance compare their video on the arab culture before Islam to their video on the danish people. in the video they made about early muslim war with the byzantine they openly tried their best to show the muslim victory in the battle of yarmok as a lie. even tampering with the animation. not to mention they went as far as blaming Saladin for the massacre of Acre! if you want to see a 'neutral' western video on muslim history, I recommend that you watch History March. just compare their video on the battle of yarmok to that of K&G and you will know why you are wrong to think this channel is neutral
Wonderful video! We in the West hear virtually nothing from the Muslim side and rarely consider how the Crusades were viewed from their side. Great stuff!
"We in the west", don't project your own lack of interest for a certain subject (which is totally fine) onto others. Try to speak for yourself instead of for, you know, 1,5~ billion people.
On the contrary, despite Muslims still being a relative minority, I hear virtually nothing *but* the "Muslim side" of things lol. Not only that, I see and hear way more *of* them, disproportionately to the exclusion of others. E.g. I hear nothing of Hindus/Sikhs despite their diasporas being comparable.
@@anthonyreed480 not sure about sikhs but msot definitely hindus, and rarely do we talk about the armenian apostolic church or the zoroastrians, the long gone tengriists etc
@@kenzo5096 I know English isn't your first language but the comment I'm responding to said "In the West" and, yes, the Chinese - like Muslims - are a minority. I'm not sure what point you think you're making.
One of my favorite stories from Ibn Munqidh is where he went into the mosque of al-Aqsa, which had been occupied by the Templars at the time. Despite their modern association with being zealous and intolerant of non-Christians, they provided a him space to pray, though this was interrupted by a Frankish man who didn't understand why Ibn Munqidh wasn't praying to the east, and so the Templar had to eject the man. However, he managed to escape and tried to turn Ibn Muqidh again, after which the Templar explained that the man had only recently arrived, and didn't understand why Muslims would pray towards the qiblah. Though still cursing the Franks "(the scourge of Allah upon them!)" in his texts, he still denotes that: "Among the Franks, we notice those who have come to dwell in our midst and who have become accustomed to the society of [Muslims]. They are greatly superior to those who have more recently joined them in the country which they occupy. They form, in fact, an exception which must not be made into a rule," which goes to show a very unique culture between the poulain that settled within the Levant to the Latins who took their booty and returned to Europe.
@علي ياسر They did. They were dispersed amongst many countries, Switzerland, Malta, Portugal, Spain and indeed Germany too. In fact some went to Scotland and England. They gained prominence in Malta and Switzerland just because they are small countries, but they were influential in other countries too.
Sultan Saladin - the life and legend by Jonathan Phillips. It is a well balanced account of the pre third crusade the third crusade and the lasting legacy of Saladin
It seems to me that most of the Muslim scholars have the same perspective as Christian scholars, that it was a battle between religions, rather than a battle between political entities that incorporated religion to justify their actions and war.
it was both and much more depending on how you see it an ethnic conflict a conflict for resources a conflict induced by climate change a conflict induced by over population a conflict induced by social strife brought about by rigid social classes my opinion : its all of them to some degree
@@waqasahmed939 That depends on what side you were on. The Christian foot solders were mainly doing this because they thought it would grant them salvation, like that was what they thought was the point of this and that's why they joined in such great numbers. The Muslims however probably had motivations that were much closer to home, they were maybe defending the place they lived or they were just fighting because they were part of the army their lord had raised. As times goes on though the Muslims would more and more start to see this as them defending against an existential thread to Islam, which definitely would motivate them a lot more.
@@nazmul_khan_ For many, that was teh case. However, I have serious doubts that as many would have gone simply at the urging of teh Pope if there was not wealth to be gained.
@Mosaab نعم هو it is not happening with a possibility of turkey but none else, and even turkey doesnt have that high of a chance id put my bets on india, although indonesia could be considered somewhat of a candidate for the muslim side, not exactly an islamic state though
Great video! I never thought about this type of question. If you're doing more on medieval warfare, would you consider one on how the knightly orders worked? The Templars, Hospitaliers, Teutonics etc. I've tried researching it myself but it's still confusing.
You guys have outdone yourself here. I am a big fan of this period in history and enjoy reading & watching content on this period. This is the first time I encounter a piece looking at crusades from the others point of view. I like 👍🏽
Ibnu al Athir my favorite historian to read about when i was in school. He wrote so many stuff about history of not just in the middle east but also in Asia and Europe.
despite the difference prespective between both of them, i love the warrior heart aspect inside both of them, they fight for what they believe is right. peace be upon you all brothers and sisters.
in my country(Indonesia), while studying the history of Islamic civilization. The reason for the crusade was because of the defeat of emperor Romanus in the manzikert war. Emperor Romanus was betrayed by aristocrats, nobles, and the church, when he went to the battlefield in his capital already appointed by the new emperor. So that his army which initially numbered 200 thousand so divided only 50 thousand left and eventually lost the war manzikert. The Muslim army that won the war captured the byzantium emperor and did not kill him but paraded him to the gates of Constantinople with the flag of tawhid in his procession. This incident is considered the cause of the crusade. Tragically, Emperor Romanus faced a coup by John Doucas, his political rival. Emperor Romanus' wife was forced into the monastery, while she was imprisoned in Sicily. After pledging not to reclaim his throne from Emperor Michael VII Doucas, Romanus was blinded on June 29, 1072, and died shortly afterwards from a severe infection from the threading of his eyes. In 1084, the Seljuk Sultanate conquered Antioch (now Antakya, Turkey) and the City of Nicaea in 1092.
Alhamdulillah. Being Hispanic and Muslim, i tend to follow my Moorish ancestry's example, and ive always wondered what my Muslim brothers and sisters perspective of the Crusades was.
@@thedstorm8922 Salahudeen was quite relieved as the german host posed quite a dilemma. Even with the ressources of egypt and syria fighting against three european kingdoms namely France, England and on top of that germany would have been a serious stretch.
I find it hilarious that it's mentioned in just about every crusade video. My favorite is from History Matter where it's just his name and then a quick clip of him sinking headfirst into the river.
The thing most people so not know is that he was a fairly impactful monarch before the crusades, instrumental for shaping the beginnings of a lot of history that would even impact our modern world.
For anyone looking for a book that uses excerpts from many different Islamic scholars to sum up the Islamic perspective of the crusades, I would suggest *Arab Historians of the Crusades* by Francesco Gabrieli, it is great!
Correction on Kitab al-Jihad: the literal translation of the book’s title is incorrect and doesn't even mean 'holy war' which is literally translated to Arabic as Al-harb Al-muqadas. The term jihad comes from the tri-root word juhd which literally means effort. So 'jihad' actually means to struggle or exert one's utmost effort. Otherwise, this simple video was a nice watch that doesn't include all the details mentioned in many history books and accounts by Muslim scholars and historians.
This is very whitewashed. Kitab Al-Jihad was written in direct response to the first Crusade and says that muslims are called to make war with Christians at least once a year. The "spiritual" jihad is only a means to the outer struggle, being war with infidels, underscored by the belief there will be a worldwide caliphate one day. Why even try to kid anymore?
Yeah, jihad means struggle. The lesser Jihad is a fair and justified non-agression war to please and gain favour of Allah, and the greater jihad is the war against your nefs (evil desires, temptations and inclinations).
Great video, but I have to point out one thing. Never underestimate the power of the ideas created around crusades. In Middle East, things grew organically, so it was very convenient to relate Crusades with colonization efforts. We would probably have the same thing should the Ottoman empire colonized the whole Europe. It is, however, also wrong to say that only some politicians in Middle East use Crusades as a political argument. Remember George W. Bush and his reference to Crusades? It was such a powerful reference and such a strong motivation to rally people around. So, the myths of Crusades are alive and healthy (and dangerous) on all sides. It is great that you put so much effort in clarifying these events, so we have less myths and more facts. That really helps. Great job!
ironically in Turkey the crusades are just seen as a another day at the office. The Turks were more concerned about the other Turkic/Mongol powers to their east then they were the christians of the west. Keep in mind that the Turks had already conquered larged parts of europe even before many of them became muslim.
@@juanchicruz6551 Not in Turkey their not. Turks conquered both the Muslim world and much of the Christian world too. For them its the nature of fighting, you win or you lose. They don't cry like babies over it.
‘Just a continuation of The Crusades’. That’s the first time I’ve ever heard someone other than myself, say that. Am so happy to have found this video. Thanks 😊
The manga and anime Altair: A Record of Battles (Shoukoku no Altair) really took the Muslim perspective almost precisely as laid out in the plot and story, and also how it is explained in this video. It is however still a fiction; many events and historical figures portrayed are greatly exaggerated or changed to fit the narrative of the story.
@@--Paws-- I’m gonna check this out. Thanks for letting me know. I needed a nee anime to watch. I like Arslan Senki as well. A good one for how corruption plays out.
I really I really love those counts of when they talk about the Europeans from the other cultures and how they saw us back then. Actually it's still relevant today
Nuraddin Zengi and Baybars had the best win ratio against Crusaders, Saladin although reputed more, failed to produce a decent record losing several battles such as Montgisard, Acre, Arsuf, Jaffa, Belvoir,...
yet Saladin is the one that broke them the most at Hattin and their failure to take Jerusalem in the third Crusade , let's not undermine one's work and appreciate all of them
Your perspectives on embracing diverse viewpoints in history are enlightening! How do you believe considering multiple angles enhances our understanding? Additionally, your insights into framing's impact on conflict perception are intriguing. How can we ensure nuanced interpretations?
History is a funny thing, "perspective" is almost always from the eyes of the beholder. The "crusades" were a two way street, and when one realizes that, history will become much clearer.
You don't need to whitewash the religion and its terms to appease to the white man of the West. Jihad literally in a linguist sense from its roots means Struggle. But the homonyms include a holy war. Jihad is justified and completely legitimate whereby a Muslim ruler declares war on the enemy. The only difference is the term is tainted today by proxy terrorists and the West
7:59: "Kitab al Dshihad" dosn't mean "The Book of Holy War" but "The Book of strive/struggle". Dshihad doesn't mean anything near "war" or "holy", but struggle itself. As such someone can do dshihad to get better grades at school etc. In this context it's about the struggle to maintain and keep the Islamic Realm as the Christian offensives were a threatening it. In WW1 the Ottoman Empire announced the "Dshihad-i Ekber" which can be translated as "The Great Struggle" to defend the Empire and as such to defend the Islamic Realm. You can interpret that this struggle is about war and a holy mission to guard the future and independence of the Islamic religion and Caliphate, but not in the same "holy war" manner as the Crusades. So basically it's wrong to translate "Dshihad" as "Holy War".
That is nonesense and a common tactic of religious apologists. Its like saying that a crusade is not a military campaign but an expedition to find god. The word Jihad is commonly used to describe a violent act against nonbelievers or perceived heretics. The term is used to activate and provide cause to justify religious, in this case muslim violence against whoever is proclaimed target of the jihad. And this is also how victims of jihadis understand the meaning of the word. Everything else is semantics.
@@possumGFX Nonsense? Religious apologists? I just translated it from Arabic and described its usage in the Islamic world as a former Muslim. You should note that a widely known Hadith (Quote) of the Islamic Prophet Mohammad says "The greatest Dshihad (Struggle) is against your own nafs (will). The one who overcomes that Dshihad is the greatest among you (The Ummah/Muslim comunity)". Your comment is unfortunately biased, as if you would read some books about Islamic Theology or just simply learn Arabic, you would take it back. Just a side note: I myself criticise Religions and especially Islam a lot (as I am a former Muslim myself), but you just simply are wrong in this matter. I'm strictly against the media calling Islamic Terrorist "Dshihadists", cause it simply is wrong and has nothing to do with the meaning of "Dshihad", just as the term "Anti-Semitism" is used in a wrong way in my oppinion. Anti-Semitism means "Against Semites" and as such against Isreails *AND* Arabs and not "Against Jews". But in common usage it means "Anti Jews" where as there can be Jews who aren't Semitic (for example Khazar Turks). "Anti-Semitic" also excludes being Anti-Arab, whereas Arabs are a Semitic folk. Some terms just need to be changed so prejudices like the ones you have can be exterminated with time.
@@HorvardPasha The terms dont need to be changed. Islamic terrorism is not because Islamists dont understand their own book or language. They understand it very well and they make a different point about what Jihad means. If it was an inner struggle like you people say then why would they declare "Jihad" on others? Like Bin Laden did 1991. Like Boko Haram did in 2015. The Ottomans in 1914, Saddam Hussein in 1990, Gaddafi in 2010 and so many many times in history beginnign from Mohammeds conquest of the arabian Peninsula to the conquest of northern Africa, the occupation of Iberia and the atttacks on Greece and later Vienna or 9/11. It was never "declared" to their own people so they may do a little "inner struggle" with themselves. It was always meant as a declaration of war on religious base. So sorry...no...it does not mean "inner struggle." It means killing those deemed not muslims in the name of Allah. The fact that muslims rush to discuss the meaning of the term instead of the act itself is already telling.
@@possumGFX you are an ignorant and talking nonsense. Here is one example for jihad „The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The best fighting (jihad) in the path of Allah is (to speak) a word of justice to an oppressive ruler“ Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) [Sunan Abi Dawud 4344]
@@namenloser7026 Declaring Jihad on other people has absolutely nothing to do with "speaking justice to oppressve rulers." You must be seriously naive if you think that. A single quote out of context wont change that. For every single quote there is another talking of slaughter and murder, of child abuse and bloody conquest in the name of Allah.
One thing that is often forgotten about the countries concerned by the crusades, is that there was there still a lot of christians. They were from Syrian, Copt or other churches.
@@resentfuldragon I'm aware that Muslims were better at treating those who worship differently than the Christians who often just didn't allow other religions. The point Inwas trying to make was that the Eastern Christians also faced discrimination and violence from their fellow Christians.
@@resentfuldragon You are partially right. Compared to the European Christians, Muslims treated the minority better in their cities. However, not as clean as one would often think. For example, Muhammad pretty much wiped out entire Jewish tribes in Medinah. Granted it was for alleged treason but hey, Muhammad came to their city. Also during the reign of Uthman, when Byzantines recaptured a few cities for a short period from the Muslims in Egypt killing the military there, Muslims retaliated by wiping out the military and the civilians there, including Copts.. until they were forced to stop. It also depended on what kind of Christians were the minorities. Back then there were many Christian groups declared heretics by the Church, found refuge under the more reasonable Rashiduns. It was easy to conquer Levant because the Christians there were persecuted both by the Byzantines and the Western Romans. They sort of welcomed the Muslims with open arms. But let's not forget the heavy taxes imposed upon them, which was used to fund the ongoing conflicts. Pay up, or convert, or send your children to us, as they would be our future soldiers.
@@resentfuldragon lol, tell that to the millions of Zoroastrians, who refused to convert, massacred by the Caliphate during the conquest of Persia/Iran, less than a generation after your prophet died.
@@jamieammar6131 Alleged treason? It was straight up treason. They betrayed the signed contract that they had with the Muslims and sided with the enemy pagans. And fyi it wasn't their city. The city belonged to the Ansar (who were Muslims). Tbh you wrote so much untruths in your following paragraphs one doesn't even know where to start. It's clear you don't know much about what you're talking about tbh.
What most historians seem to omit to explain, is that the Crusades were in response to a change in Muslim tolerance, where previously Christians and Jews could live in Jerusalem and surrounding areas if they paid the additional Dhimmī tax, in 1077 Muslim Seljuk Turks took control of the Holy Land. And there came a change in policy, the Holy lands were closed to Christian and Jewish Pilgrims but worst of all was the ongoing mistreatment of the local Christians by Muslims that sparked the Crusades
@@kmmmsyr9883 - just researching as I go , the Fatimids appear to of taken Jerusalem from the Seljugs only one year before the fall of Jerusalem , some believe the Fatimids initiated an alliance with the crusaders to defeat the Seliugs not realizing the Crusaders objectives ?
Phenomenal video I greatly thank you guys at the K & G channel for your very meticulous research and respect for other perspectives. I hope one day instead of fighting and bickering and all the nonsense embroiling these two great faiths , comes more understanding between their peoples. Best of wishes in the new year!
@@raquibhasib1710 Actually religion dying out would be best, religion has already held back civilization for millennia, the quicker the better. Especially considering ya'll can't even decide which skydaddy is the correct one. It just funny to me how all sides are so convinced "they" have the "correct" belief, as if it was just indoctrination from birth that reinforced this belief. TL;DR Skydaddy hasn't ever, and will never exist. 🤣😂
@@jonhall2274 I believed in religion. In 🌍 so called strong/ elite society did , doing and will do a lot of unjust work ( murder , robbery, rape u name it) against poor/ weak people. Do you really think this will go without payback ???
@@raquibhasib1710 🤦♂️Considering it's happened for literally multi-thousands of years, with people far more faithful than today, and yet nothing has happened.🤷 Nothing will ever happen, because skydaddy doesn't exist. 🤣😂
I think this is the best historic video I've ever seen ❤️ from any West channel. Very neutral, truthfull perspective ❤️ Specially the last part when you said about present day situation.
Most of Crusader states got destroyed by Turks County of Edessa->Nuraddin Zangi County of Antioch->Baibars County of Jaffa and Ascalon->Baibars Lordship of Sidon->Baibars County of Tripoli->Al Mansur Qalawun Lordship of Tyre->Al Ashraf Khalil Kingdom of Jerusalem->Al Ashraf Khalil and also Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia too
@@hegantank6495 Literally ALL Mamluk Sultans that fought during the crusades were Turks (Bahri period), The Circassian Dynasty (Burji period) followed much later on
Love hearing different perspectives! Thank you for exploring this topic. I served in Afghanistan and while I was there it was a privilege in hearing the Afghani perspective through our interpreters when we dealt with the Afghan contractors we worked with. Working with those guys it made me realize that in the long run we are all just a bunch of dumb humans spinning around a ball of nuclear hellfire. By hearing the different perspectives it made me more compassionate and made me realize that there are way more good people in this world than evil. It is unfortunate that we as humans have to find a reason to kill each other over ultimately trivial things when most of us just want to live our lives and not be bothered by shitty people/governments.
Its ok brother...you did what was expected of you as a soldier...its always been like this since the beginning of time..old powerful men arguing and yound men dying for reasons most dont really know. 😥 I hope at least you found some peace and solace while you're up there in the mountains..salam brother. 🙏🏾
Really apreciated episode. For an Iberian, I guess Crusades are viewed under a different light, since the process of both coexisting and fighting among Christian and Muslims is something that neither French, English, Germans or Northern Italians experienced at their homelands. The question of "who's land is this?" is actually deeper than we might think. Once, a History teacher asked us in class: After half a millenium of occupation, when generations of families lived, let's say, in Algarve (Portugal's southernmost territory, which name actually comes from the Arabic _Al Gharb_ (the West)), how can one Christian, that isn't even related to that territory or was his family, come and say to them "This is our land?". Curious fact that passed unnoticed: there was but one success in the Second Crusade, which was the capture of Lisbon, which turned into Portugal´s capital to this day, in the next century. English crusaders en route to the Levante helped Portuguese forces in this endeavour, constituting a "Western Front" of this rather failed enterprise.
Yes, Norman (Scandinavian-Viking Heritage) soldiers of recently conquered England of 1066 helped in the seige of Lisbon of 1147 against the Islamic colonists, which was the first of four or five times that England helped Portugal, which in turn created the oldest alliance (Anglo-Portuguese) between two countries, primarily against Spain and France.
Tell that History teacher that although 500 years passed the challenge of restoring the Gothic kingdom was never lost and continued to drive the reconquest despite so many generations. The spirit of Covadonga reached Algarve because in 711 Algarve was part of the Regnum Gothorum.
@@chejonte my friend, my teacher obviously was aware of that. However, the empirical question remains, and think about this: a muslim living in Algarve in the XIII century may have up to 500 years of forefathers living there, whilst the VIsigoths had control over that region for half that ammount of time. Now, adding something more to the question, how would a Roman descendent fill himself at the dawn of the VIII century in the Algarve, knowing that his Roman forefathers were there almost 600 years before the first Visigoth ever set a foot there? Did he see himself as a Visigoth? As a Roman? As a Celtic Roman perhaps? It really is a complex question. I like to think that I'm a Celtic Portuguese, for example, with a lot to own to the Romans. So, am I allowed to be only Celtic? Roman Celtic? Portuguese?... Questions, questions... Cheers!
@@danielconde13 Well, It is a question of geography, identity, culture, faith, will and geopolitical militar force, sure. Nowadays you can identify with whatever you want because information and Historiy books are easy to find. In medieval times those diferent identity options were not a realistic option. A big mayority of population in those times werent aware of those diferent historical identities. Only the three religions of the Book mattered.
The most civilized comments section in all of youtube. Amazing video, breaking eurocentrism helps us all have a more broad and moderate view of these historic events.
@@dangin8811 The Crusades and the wars preceding it were just like the rest of history wars of expansion and re-expansion and control. Islam grew in the middle east and started to expand and conquer (which was a thing that pretty much everyone did), the Europeans fought back, but the mid-east was too far to effectively control so they ended up losing. I agree with you, that while the crusades started with the 1st crusades. The conflicts are much older. Although I also think if you start connecting every conflict to another one, well then our ancestors with stones were probably fighting the crusades.
@@faheem65asssyes, Christianity was spreading by preaching and miracles. The Islam spread by killing and enslavement. For hundreds of years, all those lands were Christian. Poor Armenians suffered the most by being displaced.
It is absolutely great to have the crusade in muslim perspective as well. We never talk about that from this perspective. Brilliant video. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication. A fan from Sri Lanka ❤️.
Crusades in one respect was a reconquista bridge that turned out to be too far. Disunity and competition among Christendom and Islam was one of the main reasons, for time and again both expansions were checked.
@@imawormbeforeiamman6052 Yes, without the fall of Constantinople and the Ottoman Empire blocking trade of Asian spices to Europe, Portugal and Spain would not have been inspired to seek other trade routes.
The book of Oussama Ibn Mounqidh is a very good book to read. It's short but you can see the perspective of a muslim on the crusade who are curious, where the ennemy is more the islamic court scheme that the new warrior of the west etc... a book that you need to read to understand the crusade !
@@yakovmatityahu i invite you to watch farid responds, check his vids on 100+ christian prince lies. Anyway its your call which one to trust but at least you will have broader view
I am from Lebanon, which is the most country in the area still influenced by the crusades to this day, from the different religions that exist there to the different terms still used. For example, people still use the word "Frangi", which means Frankish, to describe anything that comes from the west.
“Saladin, We’re Back!” So France’s general Henri Gouraud is said to have declared when he entered the Kurdish warrior’s tomb beside the Umayyad Mosque in August 1920 after the French had seized Damascus.
@@George-cr6jq the seljuk turks were a nomadic society that ruled over the former abbasid caliphate. The fatmid's tried to form an alliance with the crusaders against the seljuks.
I think the domination of Turkic tribes from Central Asia within the Islamic world and eventually Europe is a good example. The Europeans and Arabs were both sedentary.
Understanding the modern world requires an understanding of history, especially from each others perspectives. The Muslim world as the video points out largely saw the western colonial expansion as a continuation of the crusades. As part of their independence struggles many Muslim nations adopted symbols dating back to the crusader period like Egypt which adopted the eagle of Saladin on its flag. European sailors and pirates operating in the Indian Ocean were also referred to as Firangis (Franks).
Maybe do one on the Islamic conquest of Spain, Anatolia, Egypt, the Levant and Sicily, I guess the crusades and occupation by the Islamic world of Christian lands that incited the reciprocal crusades that we call the crusades.
Awesome content, thank you! Constructive criticism, I find the narration dull & automated and recommend watching Ted-ED videos for examples of great narration 🤩
Many Muslims sought shelter in the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the Dome of the Rock, and the Temple Mount area generally. According to the Gesta Francorum, speaking only of the Temple Mount area, "...[our men] were killing and slaying even to the Temple of Solomon, where the slaughter was so great that our men waded in blood up to their ankles..." According to Raymond of Aguilers, also writing solely of the Temple Mount area, " in the Temple and porch of Solomon men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins." Writing about the Temple Mount area alone, Fulcher of Chartres, who was not an eyewitness to the Jerusalem siege because he had stayed with Baldwin in Edessa at the time, says: "In this temple 10,000 were killed. Indeed, if you had been there you would have seen our feet coloured to our ankles with the blood of the slain. But what more shall I relate? None of them were left alive; neither women nor children were spared." The eyewitness Gesta Francorum states that some people were spared. Its anonymous author wrote, "When the pagans had been overcome, our men seized great numbers, both men and women, either killing them or keeping them captive, as they wished." Later the same source writes, "[Our leaders] also ordered all the Saracen dead to be cast outside because of the great stench, since the whole city was filled with their corpses; and so the living Saracens dragged the dead before the exits of the gates and arranged them in heaps, as if they were houses. No one ever saw or heard of such slaughter of pagan people, for funeral pyres were formed from them like pyramids, and no one knows their number except God alone."
It's one of the more interesting things about these kind of chronicles that both sides likely exaggerated the massacre at the hands of the franks. Muslim chronists did it to make the crusaders appear more monstrous whereas the christian writers did it because they considered the act of spilling muslim blood as cleansing the sacred places from heathen influence.
Muslims: "they took our lands" Byzantines: wait, whaaaaat? Franks: My lands. Muslims: Everything started with siege of Toledo and Sicilia. Proto-Spaniards: Give me back my city. Normands: My island now.
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The greatest Asheke Rasul (Ashek means lover)(the one who love Prophet Muhammad S.A.W the most after loving God) of this age went to a wedding party in a slightly muddy dress. Seeing this, the doorman pushed him hard and threw him on the ground and started cursing him. The greatest lover of Prophet Muhammad S.A.W (of this age) told the doorman that he was invited to the wedding ceremony politely.Although he was a young man, he did not take revenge on the doorman. When the doorman started apologizing (calling that young man as "Sir") to That young man as he has done very bad behaviour with that man(without knowing that he was invited)
.But the young and strong man politely hugged the doorman and said, "You are my sir, because I have just come to eat.But You are guarding such a big wedding house burning in the sun. Your mind is very soft. Maybe for some reason you are in a little trouble. You can tell me. "When the doorman started crying, the young man wiped away the tears of that doorman.This is real Islam. The people who love Prophet Muhammad (SAW) the most after loving God(one and only) the most(they believe in peace, not in Violence). So do research about Islam and do not believe the false....
**Love is not a sin. However, Islam has never given anyone the right to threaten the life of a girl or a boy by pretending to love her for months, year after year (with the intention))for not marrying a girl or a boy. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: It is necessary for every believing man and woman to acquire (knowledge). -(Sunan Ibn Majah)...However, it cannot be done through obscenity by violating the veil. Islam will never tolerate violation of womens' right.. Islam has kept women away from all dangers with absolute compassion. Islam will not take responsibility for those who make mistakes. When women's rights are violated, Islam roars like a lion.(which normal people can not see)
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Can you make a video about the battle of Didgori and David the Builder? The Battle of Didgori was fought between the armies of the Kingdom of Georgia and the Great Seljuq Empire
A lot of Muslim content on this channel, is it something because of your patreons?
Any plan on making a video on indian history again? Maybe on 1805 siege of bharatpur?
One notion. You should say catholic states instead of christian states, as crusades were waged against christians as well. The Waldensians were one of the christian groups that were persecuted by the catholic church
What really took the cake was at 8:59, when the graphic showing al-Qalanisi chronicling the crusades went right to left, because Arabic is written right to left. Outstanding attention to detail as always! You guys deliver once again!
most Semitic languages are like this. Hebrew is like this as well
As a person born in Orthodox Christian European country Bulgaria where along with most if not all of Europe its written left to right so with right hand it's funny cause I use the left hand to write.
@@ivokantarski6220 Ya i was going to say try writing as a lefty
i was just about to comment on that when i saw this....... Kings and Generals showing their amazingness again.
the kings and general team are muslims and I believe Arabs themselves.
I love the brutal simplicity of medieval and early modern ethnography. Europeans tended to call all Middle Eastern Muslims "Turks", and it also turns out people in the Middle East just called European Christians "Franks".
Nomenclature in Aniquity and Medieval age is very debatable and problematic to comprehend and study because that was very beggining of concept of naming stereotypisation of the unknown cultures.
Muslims no matter what ethnicity depend on historical age are called variously by non-muslims. In christian Europe they were known as "Saracens"; "Moors"; "Turks", etc. In other hand Christians were called "Rum" (Rhomeian/Greek) and "Frank" (Probably name for all Catholics).
Either Franks or Latins. Look at Age of Empires, Europeans were always either Franks or Teutons.
To be fair, the majority of crusaders were French and if not French then they were German or English.
Slavic and other type of crusaders were rare.
We await the coming of Turkish Frank, he will unite us all
Some still do this. In Sicily the elders call all middle-easterns and Northafricans "turks", especially in Palermo
It is always nice to see different perspectives on a single event and not just one. I think more people would be better off doing this. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
I think even European had misconceptions about the Crusades. For example the belief that the crusades participated by younger sons who had no inheritance.
@@blugaledoh2669---Yeah it's possible everyone on both sides had misconceptions about these wars.
This not a different prespective.
It's a cherry picked account that doesn't talk about crusader atrocities amd portrayed muslim account as biased and corrupted by personal experiences. It belittles Muslim scholar as naive enough to make their opinion based on narrow mindedness and ignorance.
@@brokenbridge6316 yeah many Muslims seem to think that the Crusade was a early form of European colonization.
@@blugaledoh2669---For all we know. It probably was.
The crusades are rarely talked about from the Muslim perspective, so I found this video very interesting, thank you for bringing it and I hope you take more videos of this type
Hence the importance of translation.
For instance, as an Arab I always wondered about the views of the west on muslim conquests, since all what we read comes from the muslim point of view.
That’s not correct, there are thousands of books and drama plays and tv shows and poets about the uncivilized brutal and savage invasions “Franks” did against different Islamic states in the medieval period and about the heroic battle such as Hittin and about the significant muslim figures of that time. But, who would translate that.
Yeaa because they took Jerusalem and than said it was always theirs.
@@mariomaz0124wel I sa a video of kings and generals that first moslims go in to Spain then wanted to go in Frans but the deed blundering and stuf in France so the France acted against those blundering and defeated a Muslim invader. Later on the crusade happened.
@@Solus94we’re talking a thousand years ago at that point there’s no right of land because the land was ruled by a king and his nobles and the people living there were just resources
The fact that this channel covers different perspectives makes it so versatile and is the best on RUclips imo
This channel puts out Islam focused videos like every week. Pretty sure we know who sponsors them 😅
@@scottanos9981 lol so typical. If they made videos focused on Christian or European matters, you wouldn't say something like that. But if they focus on Islam it can only be because they are being sponsored and somehow propaganda and not because they find it interesting.
@@Redfield199 What else can you expect from a schmuck like Scott there?
@@scottanos9981 Who sponsors em? + What's wrong in putting out Islam focused vids?
@@Redfield199 Exactly, there are channels like BazBattles who never make Islam focused videos or cover Islamic battles but cover sometimes only the battles which Muslims lost. No one calls them out for being Christian centric or having shady sponsorship.
"They saw Europe as a cold, savage place covered in mist."
Accurate.
Not true 😒😡
@@Mitrandhir true😡
@@Mitrandhir True
Accurate description of Birmingham
And Europeans thought of middle east as a barren desert,unbearable heat and uncivilised tribes
This is why accurate and impartial history education is so vital. Knowledge lives in the brain, while legends live in the heart, with hatred looming in it's cellar. Thank you Kings and Generals for the service you do to humankind!
While the scientific approach to historical events is vital, legend and mythology is very important too. Myths get a bad connotation these days, buts they are the force which gives a society cohesion and willpower to fight through difficult times. What would be of the Reconquista without the myths of Pelagio and El Cid? Learning the science of history is not abou debunking myths more than it’s to understand why they exist.
"Knowledge lives in the brain, while legends live in the heart." Beautifully put, thanks for that.
It seems like the Arab view about the Franks isn’t really much different from the ancient Romans and Greeks, who thought the cold climate of Gaul and Germany is what made them uncivilised, but also what made them great warriors at the same time.
Great warriors?
@@aokiaoki4238
Yeah Romans thought Gauls and Germans made great warriors caused they lived in harsh, cold climates with little luxury.
Aristotle also believed climate determined what people were like.
*Aristotle writes in his Politics 7.1327b that the peoples of Europe and colder climates are naturally full of spirit, but they lack intelligence and skill, so they live in freedom, but they are incapable of building great political institutions.*
*He goes on to contrast European peoples with the peoples of Asia and warmer climates, who he says possess great intelligence and skill, but lack spirit, so they are able to build mighty empires, but they live in perpetual servitude to despots. Finally, he concludes that the Greeks, who live in between the two continents and the two climates naturally have all the best qualities of both and are therefore fit to rule over all other peoples*
The 14th century scholar Ibn Khaldun also thought Franks and Slavs were dumb because they lived in a harsh (savage) climate, writing:
“The country of the Franks is situated in the cold, northern part of the world, along with the Khazars, Alans, and Turks. It faces out to the northern part of the Enclosed Sea. The natural climate of that land would, naturally, lead to people dumb and ignorant like animals, and many people of that land like the Slavs know no religion and dress in animal skins. But some nations of the Franks and Slavs, like some Turks and Ethiopians (who live in similarly savage climate), received religious law in old times and kept to it."
@@joellaz9836 Full of spirit doesn't mean great warriors, rather emotional and undisciplined according to Pausanias. Byzantines beleived the same. I haven't find any Medieval source describing them as good warriors.
@@aokiaoki4238 Europeans have always been great warriors
@@aokiaoki4238 If that was the case, Byzantines would not have hired the Varangian Guard and other Latinkons. Europeans have always been great warriors, from Antiquity to nowadays.
This is why I prefer Kings and Generals to Armchair Historian. "From the other perspective" videos here are actually diverse and accurate, and videos cover a very wide range of topics from areas like India and Arabia that deserve more attention. Thank you!!
This goes to show that the framing of when a conflict begins and ends can effect the way we think about an event.
It's like which came first? The chicken or the egg. I suppose you can go back to when modern humans came from the Middle East and replaced the Neanderthals.
Eg. Israel
I watched Fog of War in which Earl Morris interviews McNamara. What I found interesting is that McNamara said if we had lost World War 2 Americans would have been put on trial for war crimes.
He cites our bombing of cilvilans and compares cities in Japan that we wiped out in similar size to Amerian cities. I would also add our unrestricted submarine warfare.
On The Media (it about what exactly you think it is). Talked about bias being more than political. You also get narritive bias in which framing can make the subject more sympathetic.
True words. Just look at the 1nd and 2nd WW as a single conflict or the continuing war of the people against the elites since the American and French Revolution wich hit an early apex with the introduction of communist states and the modern hypercapitalism. Unfortunely were currently losing the war...(qoute from warren buffet)
@@therenegadepianotechnician5170 The egg came first.
For history enthusiasts, recommend the book called "The Crusades through Arab Eyes" from Amin Maalouf. The book is really good at explaining the people's situation and political state in muslim nations.
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@@joelaut2605 COPE
@@joeroganstrtshots881 most intelligent westerner
Amin Maalouf is not a muslim so he is biased against.
I generally don’t trust Muslim historians.
"Major cities of the Islamic world like Baghdad hosted hundreds of thousands of inhabitants while Paris and London hosted twenty thousand each".. I know it's a bit away from the original topic but as a person who's born in Iraq It breaks my heart to see what this great nation has become nowadays .. Hopefully we will build our homeland one day .. pardon my poor English btw ( My second language😅)
Edit : I can keep taking about my point of view forever and people will still misunderstand me🤦🏻♂️
Edit2 : please read my reply regarding (US/IRAN) carefully then I will answer your questions.
Edit 3 :- I'm not replying to anyone one anymore💀
Love iraq from pakistan 🇵🇰
Your English is excellent. And I also hope to see a strong, prosperous Iraq again, with Baghdad as a world city! Brotherly greetings from the US!
(Also, I know saying 'sorry' is nothing compared to the pain and suffering my country inflicted on yours, but I hope we can make it up to you somehow)
@@aaronmarks9366 THANK YOU SO MUCH!! .. You don't even have to apologize my friend we differentiate between governments and people😊
@@kellysamuel3383 Thanks .. You too
@@SyedMHashimK love you too buddy 🇵🇰❤🇮🇶
Really interesting video. On a related note, are you maybe planning to do a similar one on the Muslim perspective on the Mongol invasions? They were far more destructive to the Muslim world than the crusades so they should have left a far more permanent impression, right?
Well, I am a Muslim and an Arab and I can tell you that they are barely mentioned or even remembered. I don't even think a lot of people even know about them
@@neofadhel1643 Oh, ok. I would have thought that the conquest of Persia or the sack of Baghdad would be traumatic events.
@@TheSirBrainbug They were... For the people that lived back then. Nowadays Muslim propaganda may focus more on, like the other person said, "the Horrible and Evil West".
@@luisdonoso6154 which it is. Horrible and evil.
I think the other reason why the mongol is not mentioned much is probably because the ilkhanate is eventually became muslim as well
But this is just my opinion
4:39
"Started off with protecting Constantinople..."
"Accidentally razed Constantinople to the ground!"
It was just a prank bro
We will never forget the genocide done by Pagans in our city of Constantinople
@@aktradingcompany9035 I almost cried when watching the episode about the Crusaders in Constantinople
Opps.
@@aktradingcompany9035 calm down lol. But yeah and not only that andalus shall be restored and indeed shall dhaka be captured by islamabad
I got my grandpa into your channel and hes been loving all the Roman videos and the Middle Eastern HIstory!
This reminds me of that book by Amin Maalouf "The crusades through arab eyes".
great book indeed
We have a copy at home of this book, truly a very interesting read
“eyes”
@@darthbanana7 “through”
At the end of the video you mention that the crusades don't have much impact on modern culture, I believe the levantine crusades really don't, but the reconquista basically formed the Iberian culture and has a great impact on Latin American culture.
Looking for a video about that in the future.
There is nothing in History as "Reconquista". There was the military expansion of peninsular christian kingdoms and the motivation was very different.
Any academic reference to iberian culture influence from the crusades?
Great topic suggestion!
@@carlospargamendez4784 the motivation was to restore christianity, and rule iberia as a roman culture state insteand of an arab muslim one. yes its ok to consider it a reconquista.
@@carlospargamendez4784 historians generally agree that there were several ideas behind reconquista including the arguments here so both are true, but creating christian kingdoms was a big goal. That's why many Muslims either converted or were expelled.
You really have to respect that they make these high quality videos without showing any bias towards any side and with complete objectivity. Another job well done.
@@andreydragomirov8559 They are just showing the perspective of the Arab kingdoms, everyone has their own view on things. If you look at the videos on the Crusades, they show it from the Crusader perspective. If you are arguing about the science and stuff, well yes, the Ayubidds were fairly farther ahead in sciences and medicine than Europe in the early crusades. Both religions were also prone to violence and to our eyes archaic laws. I understand you are probably anti-islam, but this is a view on history from primary sources, not an opinion video.
@@andreydragomirov8559 yes... none so far... you can see they are open to accept correction/s... if you have any correction to do, you can specify the exact wrong and tell the specific correction/s...
@@andreydragomirov8559 "exaggerating european evil doings..." the thing is, its you who interpreted the video-lecture as such... the message in the video is that, just as there is "jihad" by muslim nations, there is "crusaders" by west europe nations... understandably/naturally, any story has bits and pieces added otherwise it cannot be a story or a lecture but a recitation of statements/sentences...
I think they are biased. just listen to the video when they said 'only europian perspectives are described'. as a muslim raised in a muslim country I already know many books were written and videos were made on this topic from our perspective. but K&G simply ignored that. this only means they are refering to themselves as a western channel covering their topics from western perspective only. so they can't be neutral or unbiased.
I can also point many times when they were clearly not neutral at all. for instance compare their video on the arab culture before Islam to their video on the danish people. in the video they made about early muslim war with the byzantine they openly tried their best to show the muslim victory in the battle of yarmok as a lie. even tampering with the animation. not to mention they went as far as blaming Saladin for the massacre of Acre!
if you want to see a 'unbiased' western video on muslim history, I recommend that you watch History March. just compare their video on the battle of yarmok to that of K&G and you will know why you are wrong to think this channel is unbiased
@@andreydragomirov8559
You reduce christian warfare to 300 years of crusades, and reduce jihad to warfare.
You shouldn’t be talking about ”authority to lecture”.
Seriously so jealous at how much quality content Kings and Generals puts out!
Stop commenting the same thing every video
@@swellerferret2506 its the other way round. Baisically all videos about thw crusades were from Western perspectives until relatively recently
@@swellerferret2506 Nobody blames terror attacks on the crusades only the stupid people do that. It was the dismantlement of the Ottoman Empire in the early 20th Century into states which did not align to religious or ethnic people groups. If you look at the 50s 60s and early 70s the middle east generally was stable and prosperous. The subsequent unnecesary wars in Iraq caused the most problems as the US stayed in the country years after they had won. Then many weak states such as Iraq and Syria had a lot of instability during the Arab spring a western supported ideal. The disbanded Iraqi Army went to many extremist groups after 2011. And you seriously want make me believe that 9/11 was actually done by Al qaeda. If you even research enough the Taliban agreed to had over bin laden but the US did not want that. Focus on your own countrys extremists who shoot schools and riot at the capital building looting at blm protests ect. Most death in the 20th century and 21st century were caused by Christians and Athiests who were at the top
@@swellerferret2506 Haha, stupid old logic as always. Now imagine this; either Byzantines or Sassanids have defeated their foe and formed a massive kingdom, what do you guess they would do next, sitting beside a potential world power (i.e. the arab caliphate, had they stopped their attacks beyond jordan)? They would've definitely invaded the arabs or forcefully made their vassal eventually weakening them. The key point was of timing. The arabs attacked at the best time possible. Had they not, they would have been become slaves in the coming centuries. Only a fool blames someone of invading for balance of power( provided there is no massacre or there is no active peace treaty ) Even though the arabs were not waiting for the imperial empires to weaken, they just happen to have their matters sorted out the instant the empires were exhausted. Anyone blaming muslims for invading christian lands is either islamophobic or a complete idiot since the latter would have done the same
@@swellerferret2506 I have read many accounts of arab conquests such as those written by Hugh N. Kennedy and Robert G. Hoyland but I never came across your accusations.
The era of Amir Ibn al-As al-Sahmi showed prominent expansion in Egypt. Upon entering the surrendered city of heliopolis, monophysite Christians that had suffered on-and-off persecution at the hands of Constantinople, rose up against their Roman oppressors. Although they were unhappy of the jizya tax upon them.
This is the summary of the accounts of a renowned historian.
While the accusations you present are the writings of bishop john of nikiu, a person who after seeing a humiliating fall of his Christendom was furious against the Muslims.
If you take a look at his volume; the chronicles of John, you can clearly see the lack of continuity and the lack of interest in areas not fancy to him. In his book he claims that he has described the history right from Adam to Arab conquests of egypt, but in reality, he has just written on topics that were concerned to him with exemplary biasness and prejudice. He has not even mentioned once the brutalities of roman realm and theodore, the ruler of heliopolis.
Your call
Haven't watched yet but as a Muslim I already know and trust that K&G did an amazing job on covering this as neutrally as possible. Keep it up!
As a Christian, I can tell you that the catholic church waged war against my kin as well.
As a pagan I take offense to not be mentioned.
Ibn al Walid wants to see you with his army now
@@Xrisus94 as a Koopa I'm offended by Italians
they are not neutral. just listen to the video when they said 'only europian perspectives are described'. as a muslim raised in a muslim country I already know many books were written and videos were made on this topic from our perspective. but K&G simply ignored that. this only means they are refering to themselves as a western channel covering their topics from western perspective only. so they can't be neutral.
I can also point many times when they were clearly not neutral at all. for instance compare their video on the arab culture before Islam to their video on the danish people. in the video they made about early muslim war with the byzantine they openly tried their best to show the muslim victory in the battle of yarmok as a lie. even tampering with the animation. not to mention they went as far as blaming Saladin for the massacre of Acre!
if you want to see a 'neutral' western video on muslim history, I recommend that you watch History March. just compare their video on the battle of yarmok to that of K&G and you will know why you are wrong to think this channel is neutral
Wonderful video! We in the West hear virtually nothing from the Muslim side and rarely consider how the Crusades were viewed from their side. Great stuff!
The loss of christian lands, destruction of church of holy sepulcher.
"We in the west", don't project your own lack of interest for a certain subject (which is totally fine) onto others. Try to speak for yourself instead of for, you know, 1,5~ billion people.
On the contrary, despite Muslims still being a relative minority, I hear virtually nothing *but* the "Muslim side" of things lol. Not only that, I see and hear way more *of* them, disproportionately to the exclusion of others. E.g. I hear nothing of Hindus/Sikhs despite their diasporas being comparable.
@@anthonyreed480 not sure about sikhs but msot definitely hindus, and rarely do we talk about the armenian apostolic church or the zoroastrians, the long gone tengriists etc
@@kenzo5096 I know English isn't your first language but the comment I'm responding to said "In the West" and, yes, the Chinese - like Muslims - are a minority. I'm not sure what point you think you're making.
Look, let's be honest: this is a brilliant video. Just awesome. It will be featuring in my classroom teaching as well. Keep up the great work!
So glad to see a fellow history teacher! Best wishes, historical knowledge and perspective is sorely needed in every country's schools today!
@@aaronmarks9366 Great to connect work another passionate history teacher too. Do you follow the History Skills channel as well?
History is the best subject I have at school, God bless history teachers.
Yay another Kings & Generals video. You guys have been on a roll lately.
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"This enabled both sides to have a stereotypical view of each other" --- excellent wording.
One of my favorite stories from Ibn Munqidh is where he went into the mosque of al-Aqsa, which had been occupied by the Templars at the time. Despite their modern association with being zealous and intolerant of non-Christians, they provided a him space to pray, though this was interrupted by a Frankish man who didn't understand why Ibn Munqidh wasn't praying to the east, and so the Templar had to eject the man. However, he managed to escape and tried to turn Ibn Muqidh again, after which the Templar explained that the man had only recently arrived, and didn't understand why Muslims would pray towards the qiblah.
Though still cursing the Franks "(the scourge of Allah upon them!)" in his texts, he still denotes that: "Among the Franks, we notice those who have come to dwell in our midst and who have become accustomed to the society of [Muslims]. They are greatly superior to those who have more recently joined them in the country which they occupy. They form, in fact, an exception which must not be made into a rule," which goes to show a very unique culture between the poulain that settled within the Levant to the Latins who took their booty and returned to Europe.
Interasting very interasting
He says the templars were his friends.
@علي ياسر
One of the countries.
@علي ياسر
They did.
They were dispersed amongst many countries, Switzerland, Malta, Portugal, Spain and indeed Germany too. In fact some went to Scotland and England.
They gained prominence in Malta and Switzerland just because they are small countries, but they were influential in other countries too.
It wasn't Muslim land so he can cry all he wants about it
Sultan Saladin - the life and legend by Jonathan Phillips.
It is a well balanced account of the pre third crusade the third crusade and the lasting legacy of Saladin
Thanks
The sultan was a Kurd by the way
@@theawesomeman9821 wait salahdin was a kurd ?? didn't he come from Egypt ?
@@cebonvieuxjack he was born to kurdish parents in a kurdish village in modern day tikrit, iraq.
@@machtvonhre8979 uh, well thanks for the info !
It seems to me that most of the Muslim scholars have the same perspective as Christian scholars, that it was a battle between religions, rather than a battle between political entities that incorporated religion to justify their actions and war.
it was both and much more depending on how you see it
an ethnic conflict
a conflict for resources
a conflict induced by climate change
a conflict induced by over population
a conflict induced by social strife brought about by rigid social classes
my opinion : its all of them to some degree
@@anon-iraq2655 I think for the foot soldiers, they saw it more along the lines of religion than the leaders necessarily did
@@waqasahmed939 That depends on what side you were on. The Christian foot solders were mainly doing this because they thought it would grant them salvation, like that was what they thought was the point of this and that's why they joined in such great numbers. The Muslims however probably had motivations that were much closer to home, they were maybe defending the place they lived or they were just fighting because they were part of the army their lord had raised. As times goes on though the Muslims would more and more start to see this as them defending against an existential thread to Islam, which definitely would motivate them a lot more.
@@nazmul_khan_
For many, that was teh case. However, I have serious doubts that as many would have gone simply at the urging of teh Pope if there was not wealth to be gained.
@@anon-iraq2655
There is rarely one reason. I personally see religion as an incentivising factor, rather than a root factor.
Never stop posting, i find every video very valuable and cannot think of a better way to spend my spare time ❤️👌💯
15:12 G.W. Bush also referred to the invasion of Iraq in 2003 as a crusade, which naturally revives this paradigm
We didn't wait Bush's discours to call it a croisade. But we find it زلة لسان mean A slip of the tongue. That confirm the view of the majority
@Mosaab نعم هو it is not happening with a possibility of turkey but none else, and even turkey doesnt have that high of a chance id put my bets on india, although indonesia could be considered somewhat of a candidate for the muslim side, not exactly an islamic state though
@@Cecilia-ky3uw India?????
@walid walidos get your head out of anger my friend. Stop looking at people with a hateful and ignorant heart.
@Mosaab نعم هو آمين
Great video! I never thought about this type of question.
If you're doing more on medieval warfare, would you consider one on how the knightly orders worked? The Templars, Hospitaliers, Teutonics etc. I've tried researching it myself but it's still confusing.
They already made videos on those Crusader Orders
@@theawesomeman9821 I did not know that, thank you.
@@readingking1421 Your welcome
Muslims' view on European crusaders were similar to Europe viewing Vikings. Savage yet strong.
i love how he also covers parts of history not taught in school
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You guys have outdone yourself here. I am a big fan of this period in history and enjoy reading & watching content on this period. This is the first time I encounter a piece looking at crusades from the others point of view. I like 👍🏽
Oh I had no idea just how much I needed a video on this topic.
Stellar work K&G, absolutely fantastic 👏
Ibnu al Athir my favorite historian to read about when i was in school. He wrote so many stuff about history of not just in the middle east but also in Asia and Europe.
despite the difference prespective between both of them, i love the warrior heart aspect inside both of them, they fight for what they believe is right. peace be upon you all brothers and sisters.
Yes so lovely they kill each other like madmen
I am not a patreon ,but I wish these videos were a bit longer..
cant get enough of K&G..👍
in my country(Indonesia), while studying the history of Islamic civilization. The reason for the crusade was because of the defeat of emperor Romanus in the manzikert war. Emperor Romanus was betrayed by aristocrats, nobles, and the church, when he went to the battlefield in his capital already appointed by the new emperor. So that his army which initially numbered 200 thousand so divided only 50 thousand left and eventually lost the war manzikert.
The Muslim army that won the war captured the byzantium emperor and did not kill him but paraded him to the gates of Constantinople with the flag of tawhid in his procession. This incident is considered the cause of the crusade.
Tragically, Emperor Romanus faced a coup by John Doucas, his political rival. Emperor Romanus' wife was forced into the monastery, while she was imprisoned in Sicily. After pledging not to reclaim his throne from Emperor Michael VII Doucas, Romanus was blinded on June 29, 1072, and died shortly afterwards from a severe infection from the threading of his eyes. In 1084, the Seljuk Sultanate conquered Antioch (now Antakya, Turkey) and the City of Nicaea in 1092.
Alhamdulillah. Being Hispanic and Muslim, i tend to follow my Moorish ancestry's example, and ive always wondered what my Muslim brothers and sisters perspective of the Crusades was.
@AbdulloTOLİB Im sorry?
@Misericordia United States.
Greetings from Turkey bro❤️
Lmao the way barbarossa just dissapeared is so funny
He drowned in a river.
@@thedstorm8922 Salahudeen was quite relieved as the german host posed quite a dilemma. Even with the ressources of egypt and syria fighting against three european kingdoms namely France, England and on top of that germany would have been a serious stretch.
I find it hilarious that it's mentioned in just about every crusade video. My favorite is from History Matter where it's just his name and then a quick clip of him sinking headfirst into the river.
The thing most people so not know is that he was a fairly impactful monarch before the crusades, instrumental for shaping the beginnings of a lot of history that would even impact our modern world.
Barbarossa was 60 years old and likely suffered a heart attack
For anyone looking for a book that uses excerpts from many different Islamic scholars to sum up the Islamic perspective of the crusades, I would suggest *Arab Historians of the Crusades* by Francesco Gabrieli, it is great!
Correction on Kitab al-Jihad: the literal translation of the book’s title is incorrect and doesn't even mean 'holy war' which is literally translated to Arabic as Al-harb Al-muqadas. The term jihad comes from the tri-root word juhd which literally means effort. So 'jihad' actually means to struggle or exert one's utmost effort. Otherwise, this simple video was a nice watch that doesn't include all the details mentioned in many history books and accounts by Muslim scholars and historians.
i thought the same. translating jihad in simply holy war it's so inaccurate
This is very whitewashed. Kitab Al-Jihad was written in direct response to the first Crusade and says that muslims are called to make war with Christians at least once a year. The "spiritual" jihad is only a means to the outer struggle, being war with infidels, underscored by the belief there will be a worldwide caliphate one day. Why even try to kid anymore?
Yeah, jihad means struggle. The lesser Jihad is a fair and justified non-agression war to please and gain favour of Allah, and the greater jihad is the war against your nefs (evil desires, temptations and inclinations).
War in Arabic is Harb.
Struggle in Arabic is Jihad.
A video about Templar Knights, Assasins and Seljuks is a good idea. Maybe with Ubisoft sponsorship 😁
Ubisoft would find a way to ruin the video trust me
They already have videos about the Assassins and Seljuks.
Great video, but I have to point out one thing. Never underestimate the power of the ideas created around crusades. In Middle East, things grew organically, so it was very convenient to relate Crusades with colonization efforts. We would probably have the same thing should the Ottoman empire colonized the whole Europe. It is, however, also wrong to say that only some politicians in Middle East use Crusades as a political argument. Remember George W. Bush and his reference to Crusades? It was such a powerful reference and such a strong motivation to rally people around. So, the myths of Crusades are alive and healthy (and dangerous) on all sides. It is great that you put so much effort in clarifying these events, so we have less myths and more facts. That really helps. Great job!
ironically in Turkey the crusades are just seen as a another day at the office. The Turks were more concerned about the other Turkic/Mongol powers to their east then they were the christians of the west. Keep in mind that the Turks had already conquered larged parts of europe even before many of them became muslim.
You don't really know what you talking about... People are taught that crusades were evil in Occident
@@juanchicruz6551 Not in Turkey their not. Turks conquered both the Muslim world and much of the Christian world too. For them its the nature of fighting, you win or you lose. They don't cry like babies over it.
@@billyjesus5442 I said Occident
@@juanchicruz6551 ah yes, i live in england ive never seen the crusades taught as evil in schools or on tv here?
‘Just a continuation of The Crusades’. That’s the first time I’ve ever heard someone other than myself, say that. Am so happy to have found this video. Thanks 😊
The manga and anime Altair: A Record of Battles (Shoukoku no Altair) really took the Muslim perspective almost precisely as laid out in the plot and story, and also how it is explained in this video. It is however still a fiction; many events and historical figures portrayed are greatly exaggerated or changed to fit the narrative of the story.
@Eva Goodwin I know, that's what I said.
@@--Paws-- I’m gonna check this out. Thanks for letting me know. I needed a nee anime to watch. I like Arslan Senki as well. A good one for how corruption plays out.
I really I really love those counts of when they talk about the Europeans from the other cultures and how they saw us back then. Actually it's still relevant today
Great, more of this. History always depends on critical assessments of perspectives.
Nuraddin Zengi and Baybars had the best win ratio against Crusaders, Saladin although reputed more, failed to produce a decent record losing several battles such as Montgisard, Acre, Arsuf, Jaffa, Belvoir,...
Yes brother your right from Turkey
Based
It is a pity that this information is not in the video
yet Saladin is the one that broke them the most at Hattin and their failure to take Jerusalem in the third Crusade , let's not undermine one's work and appreciate all of them
But Salahaddin was the one to capture Jerusalem, and that trumps everyone. That little fact about being reputed more, is not one to sneeze at. ;)
All of historical events would be better to tell this way. Both perspectives are very important to us.
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Are you going to do more medieval history videos?
i supose that you are patreon? be cause the video just get upload and you have been here 8h ago.
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@@KingsandGenerals I don't know. I don't feel like you are completly impartial on that assessment.
@@KingsandGenerals right now, as you order my king/general, my cesar.
Also great video even i dont even seen it
@@KingsandGenerals Just fiction. Nothing historical.
Love break downs on fictional conflicts especially fantasy ones! Definitely will check down that channel!
Your perspectives on embracing diverse viewpoints in history are enlightening! How do you believe considering multiple angles enhances our understanding? Additionally, your insights into framing's impact on conflict perception are intriguing. How can we ensure nuanced interpretations?
There's always two sides to history, and I love seeing both of them.
Especially where they disagree, usually points out interesting events.
History is a funny thing, "perspective" is almost always from the eyes of the beholder. The "crusades" were a two way street, and when one realizes that, history will become much clearer.
7:55 Jihad (جهاد) - n., Struggle; derived from the root word Juhd (جهد), which means effort, or labor.
Jihad does not mean "holy war".
indian : "i will pretend i don't see this"
@@agentopaque3776 huu.. i'm not even referencing there.. i'm just referring to a lot of indians who misinterpret jihad... :()
في المعنى اللغوي تعني بذل الجهد
وفي المعنى الاصطلاحي تعني القتال في سبيل الله
You don't need to whitewash the religion and its terms to appease to the white man of the West.
Jihad literally in a linguist sense from its roots means Struggle. But the homonyms include a holy war.
Jihad is justified and completely legitimate whereby a Muslim ruler declares war on the enemy.
The only difference is the term is tainted today by proxy terrorists and the West
@@ertugrulbae46 exactly.
7:59: "Kitab al Dshihad" dosn't mean "The Book of Holy War" but "The Book of strive/struggle". Dshihad doesn't mean anything near "war" or "holy", but struggle itself. As such someone can do dshihad to get better grades at school etc. In this context it's about the struggle to maintain and keep the Islamic Realm as the Christian offensives were a threatening it. In WW1 the Ottoman Empire announced the "Dshihad-i Ekber" which can be translated as "The Great Struggle" to defend the Empire and as such to defend the Islamic Realm. You can interpret that this struggle is about war and a holy mission to guard the future and independence of the Islamic religion and Caliphate, but not in the same "holy war" manner as the Crusades. So basically it's wrong to translate "Dshihad" as "Holy War".
That is nonesense and a common tactic of religious apologists. Its like saying that a crusade is not a military campaign but an expedition to find god. The word Jihad is commonly used to describe a violent act against nonbelievers or perceived heretics. The term is used to activate and provide cause to justify religious, in this case muslim violence against whoever is proclaimed target of the jihad. And this is also how victims of jihadis understand the meaning of the word. Everything else is semantics.
@@possumGFX Nonsense? Religious apologists? I just translated it from Arabic and described its usage in the Islamic world as a former Muslim. You should note that a widely known Hadith (Quote) of the Islamic Prophet Mohammad says "The greatest Dshihad (Struggle) is against your own nafs (will). The one who overcomes that Dshihad is the greatest among you (The Ummah/Muslim comunity)". Your comment is unfortunately biased, as if you would read some books about Islamic Theology or just simply learn Arabic, you would take it back.
Just a side note: I myself criticise Religions and especially Islam a lot (as I am a former Muslim myself), but you just simply are wrong in this matter. I'm strictly against the media calling Islamic Terrorist "Dshihadists", cause it simply is wrong and has nothing to do with the meaning of "Dshihad", just as the term "Anti-Semitism" is used in a wrong way in my oppinion. Anti-Semitism means "Against Semites" and as such against Isreails *AND* Arabs and not "Against Jews". But in common usage it means "Anti Jews" where as there can be Jews who aren't Semitic (for example Khazar Turks). "Anti-Semitic" also excludes being Anti-Arab, whereas Arabs are a Semitic folk. Some terms just need to be changed so prejudices like the ones you have can be exterminated with time.
@@HorvardPasha The terms dont need to be changed. Islamic terrorism is not because Islamists dont understand their own book or language. They understand it very well and they make a different point about what Jihad means. If it was an inner struggle like you people say then why would they declare "Jihad" on others? Like Bin Laden did 1991. Like Boko Haram did in 2015. The Ottomans in 1914, Saddam Hussein in 1990, Gaddafi in 2010 and so many many times in history beginnign from Mohammeds conquest of the arabian Peninsula to the conquest of northern Africa, the occupation of Iberia and the atttacks on Greece and later Vienna or 9/11. It was never "declared" to their own people so they may do a little "inner struggle" with themselves. It was always meant as a declaration of war on religious base. So sorry...no...it does not mean "inner struggle." It means killing those deemed not muslims in the name of Allah. The fact that muslims rush to discuss the meaning of the term instead of the act itself is already telling.
@@possumGFX you are an ignorant and talking nonsense. Here is one example for jihad „The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The best fighting (jihad) in the path of Allah is (to speak) a word of justice to an oppressive ruler“ Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) [Sunan Abi Dawud 4344]
@@namenloser7026 Declaring Jihad on other people has absolutely nothing to do with "speaking justice to oppressve rulers." You must be seriously naive if you think that. A single quote out of context wont change that. For every single quote there is another talking of slaughter and murder, of child abuse and bloody conquest in the name of Allah.
One thing that is often forgotten about the countries concerned by the crusades, is that there was there still a lot of christians. They were from Syrian, Copt or other churches.
They really had it bad because they were treated as second class people by both the Muslims and the Catholic crusaders.
@@resentfuldragon I'm aware that Muslims were better at treating those who worship differently than the Christians who often just didn't allow other religions. The point Inwas trying to make was that the Eastern Christians also faced discrimination and violence from their fellow Christians.
@@resentfuldragon You are partially right. Compared to the European Christians, Muslims treated the minority better in their cities. However, not as clean as one would often think. For example, Muhammad pretty much wiped out entire Jewish tribes in Medinah. Granted it was for alleged treason but hey, Muhammad came to their city. Also during the reign of Uthman, when Byzantines recaptured a few cities for a short period from the Muslims in Egypt killing the military there, Muslims retaliated by wiping out the military and the civilians there, including Copts.. until they were forced to stop. It also depended on what kind of Christians were the minorities. Back then there were many Christian groups declared heretics by the Church, found refuge under the more reasonable Rashiduns. It was easy to conquer Levant because the Christians there were persecuted both by the Byzantines and the Western Romans. They sort of welcomed the Muslims with open arms. But let's not forget the heavy taxes imposed upon them, which was used to fund the ongoing conflicts. Pay up, or convert, or send your children to us, as they would be our future soldiers.
@@resentfuldragon lol, tell that to the millions of Zoroastrians, who refused to convert, massacred by the Caliphate during the conquest of Persia/Iran, less than a generation after your prophet died.
@@jamieammar6131 Alleged treason? It was straight up treason. They betrayed the signed contract that they had with the Muslims and sided with the enemy pagans.
And fyi it wasn't their city. The city belonged to the Ansar (who were Muslims).
Tbh you wrote so much untruths in your following paragraphs one doesn't even know where to start. It's clear you don't know much about what you're talking about tbh.
Love it. I get dopamine high when I see a new KG documentary.
What most historians seem to omit to explain, is that the Crusades were in response to a change in Muslim tolerance, where previously Christians and Jews could live in Jerusalem and surrounding areas if they paid the additional Dhimmī tax, in 1077 Muslim Seljuk Turks took control of the Holy Land.
And there came a change in policy, the Holy lands were closed to Christian and Jewish Pilgrims but worst of all was the ongoing mistreatment of the local Christians by Muslims that sparked the Crusades
Wasn't it the Fatimids and not the Seljuqs who created anger towards Muslim? Al-Hakim even destroyed the holiest church in the world.
@@kmmmsyr9883 - just researching as I go , the Fatimids appear to of taken Jerusalem from the Seljugs only one year before the fall of Jerusalem , some believe the Fatimids initiated an alliance with the crusaders to defeat the Seliugs not realizing the Crusaders objectives ?
@The tsar you're a myth
In Romanian school history lessons we are taught about the battles against the Ottomans as "late crusades"
Intro statement nails it. I encourage further exploration of this perspective in all applicable topics.
Arabic and Turkish subtitles are mandatory for this video!
Phenomenal video I greatly thank you guys at the K & G channel for your very meticulous research and respect for other perspectives. I hope one day instead of fighting and bickering and all the nonsense embroiling these two great faiths , comes more understanding between their peoples. Best of wishes in the new year!
I also think that way. If this hatred continues, in future people will no longer adhered to ties of religion. Which is not good.
@@raquibhasib1710 Actually religion dying out would be best, religion has already held back civilization for millennia, the quicker the better. Especially considering ya'll can't even decide which skydaddy is the correct one. It just funny to me how all sides are so convinced "they" have the "correct" belief, as if it was just indoctrination from birth that reinforced this belief.
TL;DR Skydaddy hasn't ever, and will never exist. 🤣😂
@@jonhall2274 I believed in religion.
In 🌍 so called strong/ elite society did , doing and will do a lot of unjust work ( murder , robbery, rape u name it) against poor/ weak people. Do you really think this will go without payback ???
@@raquibhasib1710 🤦♂️Considering it's happened for literally multi-thousands of years, with people far more faithful than today, and yet nothing has happened.🤷 Nothing will ever happen, because skydaddy doesn't exist. 🤣😂
Far better than a Pax Tube video, this one.
I think this is the best historic video I've ever seen ❤️ from any West channel.
Very neutral, truthfull perspective ❤️
Specially the last part when you said about present day situation.
well good to know you're straight up admitting to a thousand year old grudge lol. might explain why they live in the stone age.
Most of Crusader states got destroyed by Turks
County of Edessa->Nuraddin Zangi
County of Antioch->Baibars
County of Jaffa and Ascalon->Baibars
Lordship of Sidon->Baibars
County of Tripoli->Al Mansur Qalawun
Lordship of Tyre->Al Ashraf Khalil
Kingdom of Jerusalem->Al Ashraf Khalil
and also
Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia too
Edessa was the first to be created and first to be retaken by the Muslims.
armenian kingdom of cilicia was definitely not a crusader state lol, and putting the mamluk sultans as turks is very questionable
@@hegantank6495 Literally ALL Mamluk Sultans that fought during the crusades were Turks (Bahri period), The Circassian Dynasty (Burji period) followed much later on
@@jonijoestar6871 80%.
@@jonijoestar6871 Almost half of them were Turks in general at least 40%
Another great one from Kings and Generals, Thank u kindly Sir!
Love hearing different perspectives! Thank you for exploring this topic. I served in Afghanistan and while I was there it was a privilege in hearing the Afghani perspective through our interpreters when we dealt with the Afghan contractors we worked with. Working with those guys it made me realize that in the long run we are all just a bunch of dumb humans spinning around a ball of nuclear hellfire. By hearing the different perspectives it made me more compassionate and made me realize that there are way more good people in this world than evil. It is unfortunate that we as humans have to find a reason to kill each other over ultimately trivial things when most of us just want to live our lives and not be bothered by shitty people/governments.
Its ok brother...you did what was expected of you as a soldier...its always been like this since the beginning of time..old powerful men arguing and yound men dying for reasons most dont really know. 😥 I hope at least you found some peace and solace while you're up there in the mountains..salam brother. 🙏🏾
I respect the channel a lot for this. I guess we need more people putting reality out there.
Thank you for sharing the Muslim perspective, great video!
Really apreciated episode. For an Iberian, I guess Crusades are viewed under a different light, since the process of both coexisting and fighting among Christian and Muslims is something that neither French, English, Germans or Northern Italians experienced at their homelands.
The question of "who's land is this?" is actually deeper than we might think. Once, a History teacher asked us in class: After half a millenium of occupation, when generations of families lived, let's say, in Algarve (Portugal's southernmost territory, which name actually comes from the Arabic _Al Gharb_ (the West)), how can one Christian, that isn't even related to that territory or was his family, come and say to them "This is our land?".
Curious fact that passed unnoticed: there was but one success in the Second Crusade, which was the capture of Lisbon, which turned into Portugal´s capital to this day, in the next century. English crusaders en route to the Levante helped Portuguese forces in this endeavour, constituting a "Western Front" of this rather failed enterprise.
Yes, Norman (Scandinavian-Viking Heritage) soldiers of recently conquered England of 1066 helped in the seige of Lisbon of 1147 against the Islamic colonists, which was the first of four or five times that England helped Portugal, which in turn created the oldest alliance (Anglo-Portuguese) between two countries, primarily against Spain and France.
Tell that History teacher that although 500 years passed the challenge of restoring the Gothic kingdom was never lost and continued to drive the reconquest despite so many generations. The spirit of Covadonga reached Algarve because in 711 Algarve was part of the Regnum Gothorum.
@@chejonte my friend, my teacher obviously was aware of that. However, the empirical question remains, and think about this: a muslim living in Algarve in the XIII century may have up to 500 years of forefathers living there, whilst the VIsigoths had control over that region for half that ammount of time.
Now, adding something more to the question, how would a Roman descendent fill himself at the dawn of the VIII century in the Algarve, knowing that his Roman forefathers were there almost 600 years before the first Visigoth ever set a foot there? Did he see himself as a Visigoth? As a Roman? As a Celtic Roman perhaps?
It really is a complex question. I like to think that I'm a Celtic Portuguese, for example, with a lot to own to the Romans. So, am I allowed to be only Celtic? Roman Celtic? Portuguese?...
Questions, questions... Cheers!
@@danielconde13 Well, It is a question of geography, identity, culture, faith, will and geopolitical militar force, sure. Nowadays you can identify with whatever you want because information and Historiy books are easy to find. In medieval times those diferent identity options were not a realistic option. A big mayority of population in those times werent aware of those diferent historical identities. Only the three religions of the Book mattered.
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Thanks to Kings and Generals Family.
The most civilized comments section in all of youtube. Amazing video, breaking eurocentrism helps us all have a more broad and moderate view of these historic events.
Ah this reminds me of a book by Prof. Carole Hillenbrand, The Crusades: Islamic Perspectives
There is another important book about this subject by Amin Maalouf. The book's title is "The Crusades Through Arab Eyes." I highly recommend it.
@@dangin8811 He is not a professional historian, but as a frankophone Arab author he is deeply interested in both civilizations.
@@dangin8811 how is he wrong, I want to hear your thoughts on that book
@@dangin8811 The Crusades and the wars preceding it were just like the rest of history wars of expansion and re-expansion and control. Islam grew in the middle east and started to expand and conquer (which was a thing that pretty much everyone did), the Europeans fought back, but the mid-east was too far to effectively control so they ended up losing. I agree with you, that while the crusades started with the 1st crusades. The conflicts are much older. Although I also think if you start connecting every conflict to another one, well then our ancestors with stones were probably fighting the crusades.
@@faheem65asssyes, Christianity was spreading by preaching and miracles. The Islam spread by killing and enslavement. For hundreds of years, all those lands were Christian. Poor Armenians suffered the most by being displaced.
It is absolutely great to have the crusade in muslim perspective as well. We never talk about that from this perspective. Brilliant video. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication. A fan from Sri Lanka ❤️.
The Crusades Through Arab Eyes by Amin Maalouf is an amazing book about the topic
Crusades in one respect was a reconquista bridge that turned out to be too far. Disunity and competition among Christendom and Islam was one of the main reasons, for time and again both expansions were checked.
@@RM668 i think the fall of Constantinople have huge influence for the exploration of the new world
@@imawormbeforeiamman6052 Yes, without the fall of Constantinople and the Ottoman Empire blocking trade of Asian spices to Europe, Portugal and Spain would not have been inspired to seek other trade routes.
@@RM668 but that really doesnt mean that islam failed just because they didnt colonize in the americas
@@ainzsama5101 it did brutally
Mainly failed because the Crusades merely ocupied the Middle East for economic and religious reasons without colonising or sending settlers into it.
4:05 and 4:13 I love how the passing of those Muslims is announced by a Church bell tolling.
The book of Oussama Ibn Mounqidh is a very good book to read. It's short but you can see the perspective of a muslim on the crusade who are curious, where the ennemy is more the islamic court scheme that the new warrior of the west etc... a book that you need to read to understand the crusade !
That map on 2:02 really made my day. The alMoravids was such a large empire. Proud of my Amazigh ancestors 🇲🇦❤️😎
The almoravids were nutcases who slaughtered Muslims, Christians and Jews alike in Al Andalus. They were the Isis of their day
That flag didn't even exist
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Finally the Muslims get to describe their perspective on “The Ferengi”.
I am from Lebanon, which is the most country in the area still influenced by the crusades to this day, from the different religions that exist there to the different terms still used. For example, people still use the word "Frangi", which means Frankish, to describe anything that comes from the west.
That's how you know kings and generals truly loves history because they seek to learn and show it without bias.
As a Muslim myself, this is really interesting.. I'm usually not really into medieval history, but this is really interesting for me to know
“Saladin, We’re Back!” So France’s general Henri Gouraud is said to have declared when he entered the Kurdish warrior’s tomb beside the Umayyad Mosque in August 1920 after the French had seized Damascus.
One of the aspects of the crusades is the age old conflict between sedentary and nomadic societies.
@@George-cr6jq the seljuk turks were a nomadic society that ruled over the former abbasid caliphate. The fatmid's tried to form an alliance with the crusaders against the seljuks.
I think the domination of Turkic tribes from Central Asia within the Islamic world and eventually Europe is a good example. The Europeans and Arabs were both sedentary.
@@lmccampbell so are the Germanic kingdoms. France,England and Italy aren't fully sedentary.
@@gahelo there was no Italian kingdom until the 1800s. The holy Roman empire was not a group of steppe nomads nor were the English
Great stuff - a needed perspective - more if you can would be appreciated
I religiously listen and research your videos and comments...valuable and useful about History reprating itself...Thank yoo
Understanding the modern world requires an understanding of history, especially from each others perspectives. The Muslim world as the video points out largely saw the western colonial expansion as a continuation of the crusades.
As part of their independence struggles many Muslim nations adopted symbols dating back to the crusader period like Egypt which adopted the eagle of Saladin on its flag. European sailors and pirates operating in the Indian Ocean were also referred to as Firangis (Franks).
funny that they still see it that way 1000year later. mabe the christians back then saw it as taking back there land that they lost 300 years erlier .
Maybe do one on the Islamic conquest of Spain, Anatolia, Egypt, the Levant and Sicily, I guess the crusades and occupation by the Islamic world of Christian lands that incited the reciprocal crusades that we call the crusades.
Awesome content, thank you!
Constructive criticism, I find the narration dull & automated and recommend watching Ted-ED videos for examples of great narration 🤩
Many Muslims sought shelter in the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the Dome of the Rock, and the Temple Mount area generally. According to the Gesta Francorum, speaking only of the Temple Mount area, "...[our men] were killing and slaying even to the Temple of Solomon, where the slaughter was so great that our men waded in blood up to their ankles..." According to Raymond of Aguilers, also writing solely of the Temple Mount area, " in the Temple and porch of Solomon men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins." Writing about the Temple Mount area alone, Fulcher of Chartres, who was not an eyewitness to the Jerusalem siege because he had stayed with Baldwin in Edessa at the time, says: "In this temple 10,000 were killed. Indeed, if you had been there you would have seen our feet coloured to our ankles with the blood of the slain. But what more shall I relate? None of them were left alive; neither women nor children were spared."
The eyewitness Gesta Francorum states that some people were spared. Its anonymous author wrote, "When the pagans had been overcome, our men seized great numbers, both men and women, either killing them or keeping them captive, as they wished." Later the same source writes, "[Our leaders] also ordered all the Saracen dead to be cast outside because of the great stench, since the whole city was filled with their corpses; and so the living Saracens dragged the dead before the exits of the gates and arranged them in heaps, as if they were houses. No one ever saw or heard of such slaughter of pagan people, for funeral pyres were formed from them like pyramids, and no one knows their number except God alone."
It's one of the more interesting things about these kind of chronicles that both sides likely exaggerated the massacre at the hands of the franks. Muslim chronists did it to make the crusaders appear more monstrous whereas the christian writers did it because they considered the act of spilling muslim blood as cleansing the sacred places from heathen influence.
Muslims: "they took our lands"
Byzantines: wait, whaaaaat?
Franks: My lands.
Muslims: Everything started with siege of Toledo and Sicilia.
Proto-Spaniards: Give me back my city.
Normands: My island now.
I hope we get more video's about the Amazigh tribes, there is so much history left there.
I just hope they do history about battle of three kings/oued Leben/battle of zelaqa which was important in shifting world's history