I don't HATE DJI Mavic 3 PRO, but...
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2023
- The DJI Mavic 3 PRO upgrade is not as straightforward as it seems if you live in an EU / EASA country, as the drone is going to be labeled C2, putting it in the A2 Airspace. 🔥 Have you bought your first drone? Then this might be something for you :-)
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Interesting information, and thanks for sharing.
Thanks a lot for the clarification, Henrik! I was originally surprised by Pro release as I've finally got Mavic 3 Classic just a month and half ago...
But having a drone with C1 label is really important part...
Very informative thank you 👍
Good information Henrik
Just drill some holes in it or take of housings 😅 50g will be easy to remove
wow. The EU rules are insane. Glade to be in the USA.
This is the reason why the rules for weapons are so bad in US😂 if the rules for drones were more restrict than purchasing a gun, then something is wrong 🤣🤣🤣
Well. It really depends where you are. In New York you can’t fly drones and you can’t by guns….but you can surly pay a lot of taxes for the privilege…..
@@icogicog8287 you can fly drones in New York you just can’t launch or operate them in state parks. But you can still fly over them because of the FAA.
@@Joe-wk9ow no Joe. There are 5( I believe) very small areas in NYC where you can actually fly drones. The rest is illegal by city ordinance. The rest of NY can be flow with the usual restrictions for parks airports helipads etc. of which there are many especially downstate.
@@icogicog8287 I don’t live in NYC. But they can not stop you if you operate outside their limitations as the FAA has the sole authority on airspace.
Wow very good sir ❤
The A2 certificate is for the whole European union. I live in Belgium where the A2 is fully free of charge, but the assessment is ridiculously hard and only offline in Brussels. I got my A2 certificate in the Netherlands and only paid 99 euros for the assessment which was online. Now i have my specific certificate via my job (police). I have a mini 3 pro for private use. At work we use the M300 and the M30. With the SORA's it will be more difficult to fly a state aircraft in certain conditions. The M30 will be better.
Fine by me. Im flying with my Mini 3 Pro @ this moment. But when the M3Pro is available in Europe i will sell my Mini3Pro. Insane drone with 3 cameras. Very cool. Already have my A2 certificate.
Yep, the c2 is the dealbreaker for me
Totally agree.
Thanks for this video!
Flying a Minin 3 PRO I ordered a Mavic 3 PRO because of it cameras, and longer flight time.
DJI refuses private import of the PLUS battery, for the Mini 3 PRO, but there are sellers on the Internet selling them. One is ordered as a test.
Cross Your fingers!
Great video my friend , just one question: what is slowing the drone flight down !! (UK )
Very well made point. Also worth stressing is the 1 1 rule which needs to be followed when flying a C2 drone. There are a lot of shots that you will not be able to legally take with the mavic 3 pro in the EU due to this
yes indeed
Thanks for the video! but is there also a so called 1:1 rule applicable for A2? meaning if you are 20m away you have to fly 20m high, 10m = 10m etc?
The previous 3 Cine was also a little more expensive than the 3 Pro Cine, $4,999 vs the current $4,799.
The 70mm is the one on the top right when looking at the Mavic 3 Pro. Small detail, but there you go...
;-)
I feel really sorry for people who bought the mavic 3 cine even a month before the m3 pro came out loll... I got my mavic 3 the friday before the pro came out and its the 1st time I ever experienced buyers remorese. but regardless i'm still very happy with what I got
I prefer the cine over the Mavic 3 pro. I dont need two telecameras. We used the cine in nov 2021 and got our investment back after 3 commercial jobs. Love the prores. I also fly with the regular M3. Not going to buy the 3 pro. But i agree wouldnt make sense to buy the cine just before the 3 pro release.
I ordered the Mavic 3 in the first week of April. 2 days later I see the leaks of the Mavic 3 pro. I barely made the window for DJI’s 14 day return policy. Luckily I didn’t open the box and they refunded me 100%. Their customer service was amazing! I was so lucky to have barely made the timing and could feel bad for anyone that had unfortunate timing.
@@Local597ChicagolandDroneGuy In Europe you cant fly in A1 airspace (category) with the Mavic 3 pro. Has too many limitations for me. I know some people that already own the 3 pro. They are not very happy with their purchase. I could have picked it up at a store after my order but decided not to on my way.
@@ChristiaanRoest79 a good decision! Too bad DJI couldn’t keep it under 900 grams..
@@Local597ChicagolandDroneGuy haha sadly i bought mine from a local retailer here in the Caribbean and no such policy exists 😂but such us life
Its hard to fly a big drone around, especially cities. People dont like the noise, dont like being filmed, dont like having something big over their heads. A believe the Mavic Mini series is the best for consumers who just want to casualy film stuff. You can carry is anywhere, it is quite discrete and wont get you into trouble (most of the time).
End up selling my mavic 3 as to many rules in the uk I'm gutted because I absolutely loved it but couldn't fly it anywhere without breaking the law. Great video as usual my friend 😁 👍 👌 🇬🇧
Fly under Article 16 or take the A2 CofC
Sweet, more money for us who know how to navigate the rules ;)
What is the problem with going to the c2 category and using it in europe.
Take the A2 license and get insurance because flying over a group of people is not allowed by any drone.
I think I explained my view on this in the video
Still glad I only have an AIR2S
......meanwhile in the UK, we are still (chewing at the bit) waiting for the CAA/DofT to pull their fingers out their arses and release the updated new rules....
Oh wait! hang on a minute, the CAA instead are releasing a consultation period (next few months) to ask all of us Drone enthusiasts questions..... more bumbling time wasting crap from them!!
The A2 test is a physical test in Denmark?? Luckily we dont have that in Sweden, It is basically the same online test but with additional questions. Same price as A1/A3 as well.
Yes they changed that so you have to be present
Also physical in Finland. I dont even want to know how much it costs
Really should’ve mentioned the 1:1 rule as well, that makes it very tricky to do any proper shoots from up in the air in urban EU areas with this one 😢
Agree, I might follow up on that one
Completely agree, DJI is making a big mistake by pulling the weight above 900 grams. I'll stick with my mini 3 pro for now. Even with this small drone you sometimes get into trouble...
Totally agree.
Trouble…. Yes i know with Bft 6 or 7. Omg i want this bigger drone 😊
The big mistake is the EU bureaucracy
150m in urban areas..wow.....and how meters away from people??? Does this mean vertical distance?
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Mavic 3 Pro and Mavic 3 has also other differences than the 70mm camera. Pro is more stabilized and also there is D-Log M. There are some other differences too but I don't remember. The specs sheets doesn't tell everything
My classic has D-Log M now as well from the latest update. I'm sure, there are incremental improvements
I would like to bring up a point for discussion regarding the C2 of the Mavic 3. We cannot forget that for the class certification, what EASA refers to and what counts is the MTOM, not the TOM. The TOM is only aplyable on legacy drones.
Only in Legacy drones does the TOM (takeoff weight) matter for flying in a Open category till the en of the transitional period.
And if we consider that ALL Mavic 3 drones have the same aircraft body, and only the payload changes, then we can say that they all have the same MTOM.
And that MTOM of the entreprise M3 is 1050g, which means that in theory, any drone has to go to class C2.
This only does not happen because it is the responsibility of the manufacturer to indicate what the TOM of the aircraft is.
And DJI has placed the TOM of their consumer drones equal to the MTOM.
This does not happen in any other aircraft because all manufacturers and regulatory entities want there to be a safety margin. No one will put an aircraft in the air that is at its operational limits.
But it was "allowed" for drones and DJI to do this.
Therefore, in my opinion, the entire Mavic 3 platform should be C2, not just the Mavic 3 Pro and Enterprise series.
Regarding EASA saying that the Mavic 3 series can fly in A2 with Class C2 or C1 depending on its weight.
Again, I do not agree.
The Mavic 3 does indeed have all the capabilities to fly in Subcategory A2 (in terms of hardware) and also has the C1 seal for the Mavic Classic.
But in my view, these drones should still be considered Legacy drones at this moment.
This is because to fly in A1 or A2, pilots must according to regulation 947/2019:
UAS.OPEN.020 UAS operations in subcategory A1
d) Be classified as C1 and meet the requirements of that class, as defined in Part 2 of Annex of Delegated Regulation (EU) 2019/945 and be operated with an active and updated electronic identification system and active geospatial recognition system.
UAS.OPEN.020 UAS operations in subcategory A2
3-Be carried out with an unmanned aircraft classified as C2 and that meets the requirements of that class, as defined in Part 3 of Annex of Delegated Regulation (EU) 2019/945, and be operated with an active and updated electronic identification system and active geospatial recognition system.
As we can see here, although Mavic 3 drones may have the capacity for active and updated electronic identification systems and active geospatial recognition systems, they are not yet available (due to EASA's fault) and as such, cannot be flown in regular A1 and A2 subcategories, but as Legacy aircraft.
Therefore, until EASA makes a Remote ID operational and an active geospatial system possible, ALL drones must be operated as Legacy drones.
This means that any Mavic 3 can only fly in A2 during the transition phase.
This is my opinion.
Hej Henrik
Kan høre du nævner i videoen som jeg forstår det at, der skal A2 bevis til ....men hvis man ikke har det må man godt flyve den alligevel ,så skal man bare holde sig 150 meter væk ... Er det ikke ufravigeligt krav der skal A2 bevis til at flyve den uanset hvad....
Korrekt, det både siger og skriver jeg også at man kan flyve den i A3
Sure - lots of bureaucracy in this legacy. But probably DJI is ahead of time - C1 can be extended to 1000 grams in nearest future?
Just send it like all other people flying ...
so, the same category of the inspire 3. Really weird... law that is all about weigh.
You must be aware of what the ESAS rules say. Now more it says "
An unmanned aircraft system in class C1 must meet the following requirements:
1. Be made of such materials and have such performance and physical properties that the energy that would
transmitted to a human head in a collision at top speed would be less than 80 J, or, as one
alternative, have a maximum take-off mass below 900 g, including payload." The key word here is "maximum take-off mass" i.e. not take-off mass for the occasion, but the Maximum possible. So a lighter battery does not help.
Then that thing with 5 m and 30 m. The 1:1 rule also applies so it's below 5 m flight height and below 30 m flight height. So if you ar 15 m avay in slow speed is max flight height 15 m.
Real Pro UAS are the Matrice and Inspire series
Yes I know, this is why I think it will not happen as they would have to change the battery setup so it would be exclusive for Mavic 3 Pro in Europe
Correct with the 1:1 rule
And the prices of battery’s too. 4/5. It’s close to £1000
In EU couldn't they change the rule from 900g and under to 1000g?
They could make it slower, then it would comply
@@TECHDRONEMEDIA That could work nicely and could be firmware implemented in the future.👍
3 lenses is a marketing gimmick. I'd rather have one lens and a 35mmFF sensor. One day.
I'll sell anyone in Europe looking for a beautiful Mavic 3 Fly More, Wide Angle Lens, Polar Pro Directors Kit, hard case and bag.. under 90 Grams of A1 goodness! $10k - but move fast, lol!I actually am selling it, my 3 Pro shipped today. If someone in Europe wants it, and shipping is reasonable, I may go that route.
will they do like japan and ship with smaller battery to EURO to meet the C1 standards?
Dude, did you watch the video? 😂
@@Fabionodariphoto I put my comment in before I got to that part =p
Just fly it illegally, so many rules now with everything that non compliance is essential. They can’t possibly police all the rules and being caught is very rare indeed as your average cop has no idea about drone laws.
you should have mentioned, that the 5m safe distance for slow fly mode is only for up to 5m flight height. If you fly f.e. 60m high, your safe zone needs to be 120m in diameter around the drone and along their flight path. So this is for most filming situation impossible to handle
Wrong,
Rule 1:1
5m horizontal = cannot go down from 5m vertical
30m horizontal = cannot go down from 30m vertical
"If you have a drone with a CE class 2 mark, under subcategory A2, as a general rule, keep the UA at a lateral distance from any uninvolved person that is not less than the height at which the drone is flying (this is the ‘1:1 rule’, i.e. if the UA is flying at a height of 40 m, the distance from any uninvolved person should be at least 40 m), and never fly closer than 30 metres horizontally from any uninvolved person. If your drone is equipped with a low-speed mode function and this is active, you can fly as close as 5 metres from uninvolved people."
In a more detailed definition :
« SAFE DISTANCE FROM UNINVOLVED PERSONS
(a) The minimum horizontal distance of the UA from uninvolved persons should be defined as the distance between the points where the UA would hit the ground in the event of a vertical fall and the position of the uninvolved persons.
(b) As a reference, when the UA is operating in close proximity to people, the remote pilot should keep the UA at a lateral distance from any uninvolved person that is not shorter than the height (‘1:1 rule’, i.e. if the UA is flying at a height of 30 m, the distance from any uninvolved person should be at least 30 m).
(c) In any case, the distance from uninvolved persons should always be greater than:
(1) 5 m, when the low-speed mode function on the UA is activated and set to 3 m per second;
(2) 5 m, when operating a UAS balloon or airship; or
(3) 30 m in all other cases. »
EASA's documentation
@@antoniocvalmeida the one to one rule means if you fly at 5m height the safe distance is 5m as radius around the drone, so 10m in diameter, if you fly at 10m the safe distance is 10m so 20m in diameter even with slowflymode, if you fly 30m the safe zone is 60m in diameter and if you fligh higher the safe distance as radius must be always the flight height as radius and doubled as diameter. Also it means: you have to make sure the no uninvolved person enters this safe zone, and any person in a car is always an uninvolved person. the 1:1 rule always applies above the 5m (slowflymode) or 30m rule (without slowflymode)
@@bastienchill no this faq answer is to short, the 1:1 rule always applies above the 5m (slowflymode) or 30m rule (without slowflymode)!
@@MichaelRadeck I only take pictures at sunrise and sunset, when there are no people in the area where I am taking off the drone.
People get very upset not for their safety (1:1 rule) but for their right to privacy.
If there are people in the area it is to forget, it is no fun for us, questions and more questions......
So rule #1 never launch the drone in an area with people. :)
Rule n.2 - 1:1 rule applies: If the flight altitude is 50 m, for example, the distance must be at least 50 m. However, the horizontal distance must not be less than 30 m to the nearest uninvolved persons. An exception applies if i fly has a "low speed" mode, and this mode is switched on. In this case, the minimum distance must be only 5 m. I am a remote pilot certificate and i have insurance.
I have many photos taken in the city, almost none have people and the ones you can hardly see were not even aware that the Mavic 2 Pro was there, and it gives very visible and audible :).
Now with the Mavic 3 Pro, Triple Cameras, Triple the Action, Triple Fun :)
Regulators need to chill on these smaller consumer drones. I could understand if there was an epidemic of serious injuries resulting from drones, but they are exceedingly rare. Especially when you consider their popularity. Modern Western cultures have become so risk adverse it borders on insanity.
+10% gramm no one care.