Are The Red Sox TRADING Their Starting Catcher!?
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- Full details on the latest Red Sox trade and Red Sox Signing rumors! Including Connor Wong!
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Today we are breaking down the latest Red Sox TRADE and Red Sox Free Agent Signing rumors, that included The Red Sox making a trade involving Connor Wong and starting pitching. We take a look at why The Red Sox may have want to make this trade, why Connor Wong was chosen, and what kind of impact this roster move could make on the 2025 Red Sox!
Above average hitting catcher with a good pop time that throws out runners to my mind is a keeper and I think the Red Sox feel that way
Yeah I would completely agree. I was kind of surprised to see so many people loooking at the possibility
The subpar framing and horrendous blocking are a real drawback. Even with how disastrous Danny Jansen was, he was still getting starts with Bello because Wong’s just not particularly good at the actual catching part of catching. However, Teel probably needs more time in Triple A, and Wong does add a quality bat to the lineup. I think he has a very clear role in the club as “the guy” behind the backstop until Teel is ready to fully take over (and, worse case, our full time catcher if Teel doesn’t turn out).
Can’t imagine they move on from him just yet. They need to sign a defensive catcher in the off-season and give Teel the time he needs at Worcester to get truly major league ready.
@@redseatradioI absolutely hate Connor he is probably top 5 worst defensive catcher in the mlb he’s fucking horrible at framing blocking etc.
They would regret moving Wong. He has not hit his ceiling which I believe is .285 25. 100. Use McGuire in the 8th and 9th inning in one run games. It's not rocket science.
Even if Teel is ready to begin his major league run having only 1 catcher available to the team is a liability. Bring the kid up let him learn from Veritek and Wong and see where things stand at the trade dead line.
i might see what trading him would bring, but with the years of control u have i would probably hold on to him even if he ends up being a backup in the future
No Way!!! Not trading Wong!!! Hardest position to fill is Catcher...and he can HIT! NO WAY!
OKAY
Wong had a bad defensive year but it was a bit of an outlier compared to last couple years not that he's ever been a gold glove guy.
That being said I think he's the perfect guy for us right now. He's solid and I don't feel he has an ego but of course that's feom the outside, and he has a ton of versatility that we know this organization loves. I would 100% keep him and transition him to the backup role whenever Teel is ready without having to rush him. His versatility then allows you to get him into the lineup without having to remove Teel (assuming they are the two in Boston) I just don't think you could find a guy that's able to do all of that and that wouldn't have other issues. Sure you could bring in a Adley but what would that cost even if you could get him? Wong is the right guy at the right time to be the bridge to Teel and be able to give you things other catchers can't when he does move to the backup role.
yeah I completely agree I just don't think its the right time to get it done
I appreciate you delving into every rumor and breaking it down. Especially since at this time of the year there is not a lot of content available.
Trading Wong off-season does not make sense to me. I think Teel would benefit with more time at AAA, and putting the starting role on him out of the chute is pressure he does not need. I think the Sox should sign a defensive minded catcher to pair with Wong until Teel is ready, then evaluate moving someone at the deadline.
I am looking forward to trade proposals where we as a fan base can go, YES!, this trade makes so much sense.
I agree. It makes sense.
Trading Wong instead of super prospects or Casas lol makes way more sense to me!! We can play the future now if Teal is up to the challenge. Only deal Wong if the other team is overvaluing him and the piece we get is totally worth it. We deal from power with a young catcher.
Keep Wong for now until you see how Teel holds up in the Majors. You'd have to get an above average haul for Wong in order to trade him, and with that defense You may not get what is needed. Also you really need to sign another catcher who is defensive minded and not sure how many are out there and would want to come here knowing they will not be a starting catcher for very long. I would hold on to Wong, see if he improves defensively at all to raise the trade value even further, and see how Teel does then possibly trade him at the deadline next year like you said. Glad you took the pros and cons approach to this, made it a lot easier to make a decision. We may have to start calling you Professor Corbin.
Agree with this post.
yeah I really like the pro and con style approach as it gives a full picture to let you all decide for yourselves
I hope they keep him. He can actually throw out runners. Good athlete. He actually hit pretty well down the stretch too.
Actually he faded in the second half. Did the same thing in '23 too.
And I agree,give Teel 3 months in Woo. I put Mayer in this category too. These subjects are interesting. Keep the good content coming!
I can’t see the Sox trading Wong until they know they have a replacement for him. I could see Teel and Wong splitting duties for a bit before they move Wong. It would be cool to have a RHB and LHB catchers, like Wong and Teel.
Let's see he can't frame pitches and can't block balls. Plus Teel is on his way. A no brainer to trade him.
Agree 100 buddy but Corbin and his videos makes no sense.
I think we give him another shot. Yes his defense sucked but his offense was great I think that he’ll definitely be better next season and I don’t think it’s a time for him to get traded unless what we get back in return is someone very impactful and we have to add him in the trade
I agree with you about your assessment of Wong. There is one major missing in this video. Jansen and Reese McGuire are gone. Who replaces those guys first before any possible Connor Wong trades? Many of the catcher free agents are pretty old. They already need two catchers because Teel won't be ready until at least June or July. Wong is also right-handed.
I hate to bring this up and I’m not an advocate for what I’m about to say - but there’s also a chance Teel is the number one catcher and Wong plays more first base due to trading Casas for pitching. He did play 14 games there last year, after all.
Wong is acceptable with the bat and there is maybe a 10 - 20 percent chance by my guess this happens. I would be livid, but due to the purse strings of ownership, I wouldn’t put it past them.
On a brighter note, I am appreciating last night’s ALCS game immensely today.
making wong the everyday firstbaseman would be a really bad idea
@@redseatradio You’re probably right. It’s been done before though, I remember Victor Martinez. So there’s precedent. Just throwing this out there as a possibility - again, not one I want to see happen.
We have Casas at 1B....
I'd keep Wong for at least another season. Teel is likely not going to be ready on opening day and if Wong has another decent season he'll have more value next off season. They have plenty of depth in the infield and left handed outfielders. It should be obvious to trade from depth. Breslow is an ivy league guy after all 😂
True people forget he’s a Yale man
I think Wong’s versatility, is why you keep him. The blocking stat, how does the stat compare with catchers on one knee compared to catchers on not on one knee?
Can you do a card reveal in the background?
This should get worked out during/after the season, not before. Teel isn't ready yet, Wong is young and his defense might improve, and Wong's trade value is likely lower than it will be later. Also, if Wong and Teel both work out, that gives you one LH catcher and one RH, both long-term, which is pretty ideal.
If the Sox feel like Teel is ready and they can get a good return for Wong, I’d say it’s worth at least exploring.
A catcher that is slightly above average at one or two defensive metrics and bottom of the league at much more important metrics like blocking and framing isn’t worth starting on the field.
An offense first catcher has to be an absolute force with the bat to make sense to me.
Good inexpensive bat to keep. Platoon with Teel at C, get some ABs as backup DH/1B.
I think he makes more sense as a July trade, not off-season. Real competition for the starting spot may light a fire in him. If not, there will be teams looking for a solid catcher/utility player at the deadline
If he's part of deal upgrading pitching you have to consider trading Wong.
Wong isn't a good catcher but having him platoon with teel righty-lefty is a very solid overall catcher position. He probably stays on the team as a backup once teel has developed.
Believe it or not,Teel.struggled behind the plate this year too. Went backward actually. Esp with passed balls and throwing out runners. Kyle is a worker though. Completely dedicated.
They should wait until Teel proves himself. Wong did pretty good offensively, which made up for some defensive woes.
Depends on the return obviously, you’d love to have the depth but I think the org wants to get better defensively, you have 3 potential GG winners in OF, 3B/SS is locked up so the only positions to get better in are C/1B/2B. You have a bunch of candidates for 2B so what is the answer? I think catcher is def need this offseason. Carson Kelly or Austin hedges for backup/split time or maybe trade for Willson Contreras if you think Teel isn’t ready until the second half
Probably a big risk, though the idea of having a veteran righty catcher with good defense as a platoon guy and mentor for Teel is a possibility. I would listen if any teams ask about him. Let's see if anyone does. Fortunately they have Tek as a coach. Who better to help someone improve? I would trade anyone if it improves the team. I'm with Merloni on this.
I don't like this idea, I think Connor Wong is good at the plate. Better than most catchers and he seems to be a good clubhouse guy. Keep him and let him and Kyle Teal split time, and if Kyle is that much better then we think about trading him.
yeah I would agree with that
Wong has had a half of a season. He couldn't bit before this season and fell off big in the second half. He's not that good defensively. Capitalize on his value
I would say to keep Wong for now, until they find a suitable replacement. They should allow Teel to develop more before he is ready for the big show. Red Sox have not had a good catcher since Jason Varitek.
Stay with Wong Teel Tandem. No brainer!
Sox need top of the rotation pitching. Which ever catching decision makes the Sox a more attractive landing spot for those pitchers, make said decision. I’m guessing would mean get the best defensive catcher you can get. What is Danny Jansen’s status?
Are they gonna let Jansen walk? Re-sign him and have Kyle Teel your backup and trade Wong
not the worst idea problem is Jansen was so much worse offensively
@@redseatradio he is but my God, Austin Hedges must have perfect fielding skills for him to have an MLB job because his bat ain't the reason. Those are some eye-watering stats! I'd say that Jansen is a better choice. I think Elias Diaz is able to hold his own at the plate as well as behind it.
@@redseatradio I also can't get around the idea of the Sox trading three minor leaguers (maybe not very highly touted, but still) to the Blue Jays for Jansen only to watch him walk.
@PortugueseKeto yeah Austin Hedges is so so terrible offensively, but again if the plan is to just simply utilize him as a back up then it doesn’t matter all that much I think the defense is absolutely more prominent
Cal Raleigh has New England ties and he is a big fan Jason Varitek. He’d probably be happy to get traded to the Sox.
Barnes and D’Arnauld are one a club option. Maybe dodgers/braves might deal. Fried has experience with D’Arnauld. Having D’Arnauld might sweeten the pot for Fried to come the Sox.
I like him but I’m of the belief that Connor Wong has peaked as a player. I think he probably just had the best season he will ever have in the big leagues. His value - to whatever degree it’s high - won’t get any higher than it is now. So I’m all-in for trading him now. We simply gotta improve defensively at the catcher position.
I think they need to hold on to him and see if this was just a bad year defensively and to give Teel a chance to learn and adjust to the major leagues in all aspects of the game . Even if Teel is great the Red Sox still need a back up catcher and having one that hits pretty good from the right side is a plus.
Yeah I think the right handed with some pop thing absolutely is going to have a lot to do with their ultimate decision
Actually his value is at his highest. He sucks at blocking and one of the worst pitching framing catchers in the majors. With Kyle Teel looking like a future star, I think Wong trade would be very good. But Corbin thinks he should be hitting clean up and playing everyday
I think it will be better to sign a better catcher on the open market. Kyle can learn off of a better catcher
I don’t think you mentioned the need for right handed hitters.
I like Wong but we definitely need Teel behind the plate...soon
Durability is not a stat, and catchers get hurt. How long is durable he showed that last season teal it's still pretty green I should be before he becomes a starter. We know what Wong's bat can do and teels is a lot and see if his production becomes a limiter.
His stock is high now. He had one good season move on!
you could make that case about a lot of the players on this team because of how young they are
What would happen to the Wong Dong ?
He's a valuable asset, so it has to be more than worth it
Wong was above average, not great but better than any other catcher on the roster. He definitely needs to work on some things in the off season but his bat still outweighs any defensive weaknesses. Teel may or may not be ready but nobody catches 162 games so why not keep them both as a tandom or platoon or whatever.
I think we keep him & work on his defense. Is Teel the next Rutchman? Too soon to tell. To b honest, the goal is to make the post season in ‘25. But I don’t think we have all the pieces in place to make the WS until: our prospects can prove themselves at the big league level; high leverage pitchers are available; most importantly, the front office shows its commitment. We’re still building & it looks to me like ‘25 will be more a step forward than the final dynastic team like we’ve seen in the Braves & Astros. Is patience a virtue? Only as long as we keep competing & winning & have the WS within the next few years.
I'm also in favor of bringing Connor Wong in 2025 ... Craig Breslow likely will not be able to significantly upgrade the position for the short term ... Wong has decent speed for a catcher and runs the bases well ... He makes fairly good contact (Strikeout Pct. 23.4%) while hitting .280 with a respectable .758 OPS in
2024 ... He has adequate versatility to fill in at first as well as second base occasionally giving Triston Casas a day off from having to face a few tough starting left handers ... Though Wong needs improvement in blocking pitches (WP 37, PB 3), he excuses that deficiency in my opinion by having thrown out 21% of his opponent's base stealers this past season ... He alsoI wholeheartedly agree that Connor Wong is a good insurance policy allowing Kyle Teel to better slowly transition into MLB in 2025 ... Having already played four seasons with the organization, his familiarity with the pitching staff should not be overlooked or discounted ...
Yeah I think I completely agree here
HAVING WONG GIVES YOU A BACKUP AT FIRST OR A FEW OTHER POSITIONS. IF YOU GET A GOOD DEFENSIVE CATCHER AND HAVE TEEL AS THE BACKUP A GUY THAT CAN BE A 3RD CATHER/FIRST BASE/DH OPTION IS NEVER BAD TO HAVE! I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO MATTER WHAT YOU GOT FOR HIM. IF YOU COULD TRADE FOR SOMEONE GOOD IT MIGHT BE WORTH IT. OTHERWISE ITS NOT SOMETHING THEY NEED TO DO! HES VERSATILE,HE HAS A SOLID BAT AND HE MAY NOT BE THE GREATEST CATCHER BUT HES NOT HORRIBLE! FOR THE MONEY HE COULD STILL BE DOM SMITH IF YOU NEED A FIRST BASEMAN OR MAYBE A FEW INNINGS SOMEPLACE ELSE.
I’m not ready to trade Conor Wong.
This would tick me off. I really like Connor. I know Teel is on his way. But Wong would be a serviceable backup if Teel were to make a miraculous jump. He hit very well for most of the season. I think he actually should’ve been considered for an AllStar nod. He could also be moved around if they didn’t have Masa clogging up the DH spot. 🙄
*Teel hasn’t been great defensively either btw.
Also, also Wongs a good RH bat. So definitely not. He’s a good player to keep around.
not sure he would need a miraculous jump to get the majors. And not great is a bit of an overstatement I think it is more so just still learning. But I agree wiht t he statement
@@redseatradio he’s probably the most important of Sox prospects to make sure is right is what I’m trying to say. Having a cornerstone backstop improves just about every aspect of the team. I just don’t want to see them rush it with him, which is another reason why I’m not in favor of getting rid of Wong. That said… No one is off the table if the right deal presents itself.
Tried to 'like' but the button was not there 🤔
yeah I saw a couple of people having issues with that this week
wong is lucky teel aint ready bc i wouldve traded wong a long time ago. i dont mean to be harsh but damn he is awful defensively. hes got an arm THATS IT. also way too inconsistent when it comes to hitting. plus he has this type of of idgaf body language that i kinda don’t like but oh well. outside of teel do we have a developmental update on our other catching prospects? ik johanfran is injured but what about brooks brannon. if he aint doing a damn thing trade him
I say trade him. Rather have Jansens lesser bat than Wongs poor defense.
Really? Even if I told you Jansen was well below everything too outside of blocking?
@@redseatradio oh I tonight he was pretty solid defensively 😭 my bad
Hope not
Bro stop. With your theory mock trades. Wong not going any where. Trade yoshi and abreau
are you going to do a podcast on every rumored trade ? click bait at its worst.
Framing is a load of BS and I wish it was banned. Glad it will be obsolete if/when they utilize Automated Umpires/Strike Zones.
With everyone always saying Wong’s defense is terrible, I feel that’s pretty laughable. Certain parts of his defense are below average…sure…but to say he’s one of the worst defense catchers in baseball is ridiculous. Before the All-Star break, he was looking to be an All-star, even with all the pass balls, due to his upside of throwing guys out and making a few plays in front of the plate that only maybe a few in all of baseball could possibly make. I’m sure you know the specific play I’m talking about Corbin.
I do feel he needs to take charge more, be more baseball smart overall, and work on his leadership skills into a Captain role like V-Tek did.
I know what you mean, and I wouldn’t say he was the worst defensive catcher in the game but it’s hard to say he was a good one when you have to say things like even with the passed balls or if you look at any single one of his stats. You point out the caught stealing and don’t get me wrong it was solid, but it was also his best defensive attribute and that was just slightly over league average
@@redseatradio It’d be nice to see how he compares to Teel.
Kyle teel.
What an awful rumor
I’m so tired of seeing this our fans are so full of 💩 😂😂😂😂
mookie trade looking really good right now
I am a fan of Wong, but he is a bigger problem than Masataka
Ooohh I am not sure that’s correct
I like the idea of holding onto him till the trade deadline. If he can get a first class pitcher. I would trade now. I think Teale is ready but a little extra time will not hurt. With Yosida injured. I may just add some pitching and a back up catcher and Go with what the red sox have. Wong is a liability behind the plate. They have Gasper who hit quite well in AAA.But could not hit in the majors. Wong is right handed an Teale is left handed. So that would help with match ups. If the Sox were to get someone else, they should go right handed bat.
I personally think the Red Sox will do less than everyone expects because Masa got hurt and needs to be moved And you have all these players in AAA ready to come up. Do not forget Chase Meidroth So the Sox can afford to sit back and see who takes a step forward.
Yeah I like Gasper the person but realistically he shouldn’t be included in catching plans. They didn’t even love the glove in AAA enough to have him be a regular catcher
@@redseatradio As much as I think they should sell high on Wong, I think they will keep him. The next viable catcher is in A ball and was hurt since June.
I think if they could get a better defensive catcher, it would also help the pitching staff This may let starters go deeper into the games and spare the bullpen. Could this be part of the late season meltdown?