I enjoyed it for the most part however, not only Gwen, but Miles should be removed from 616 as well. Make Paul a supervillain and make Peter and Mary Jane get back once and for all
But the problem with Paul is that he didn’t earned anything and about the Spider-Man who laughs I was expecting for Across the spider Verse before it came out that not every Spider-People is welcomed because they have gone down dark paths like the Batman who laughs.
How I would write it, spider-Gwen should go back to her universe. Paul Rabin became a super villain after obtaining special tech he gained. Absorbing MJ’s powers, for his own benefit to defeat Spider-Man. Peter ends up defeating him and sending him back to his own universe. Then, he decides to move out of New York, since he is through protecting the people who thinks he is a menace. Move to a small town and start a new life.
I think the only thing they can save peter And perhaps fix a lot of things. Would him become the new king in all black / symbol god Which is confirmed he is worthy of the mantal If you don't know what i'm talking about, get into the venom lore With that power he can deal with Mephisto
Seeing a lot of people's pitches be like "Peter should reject MJ and start dating [insert female character here]" while forgetting the most important thing about Spider-Man: Mary Jane is intrinsically tied to the DNA of the Spider-Man franchise. She's the heart of the book. She keeps Peter grounded to his humanity, something Felicia or Kitty Pryde or even Gwen Stacy can't exactly do. Does the current MJ have bad writing? Yes. But that shouldn't mean Marvel get rid of her (also, Peter and Mary Jane being together sells look at Ultimate Spider-Man).
@@teofilus865 not really. She's just like Peter; they both hide behind masks to escape their trauma (Peter with the death of Uncle Ben and Mary Jane with her abusive family).
@@teofilus865because Dan Slott was actively trying to replace MJ with another romantic interest. But you can’t just do that and expect it to land. Which is what everyone who tried to replace MJ has never understood; she’s been Peter’s true love for nearly 50 years. It’s too late to try and seriously convince us of anyone else.
I absolutely agree with on this with only two changes. I want to finish the Black Cat and Jackpot miniseries, because it is doing a lot for Felicia and I want Ben to keep the Chasm suit and name because a) it’s fire and b) it builds a need for redemption among the people of New York. New York will probably trust Scarlet Spider, but not Chasm and that means he will have to build that again. Venom had to do something similar and look at where the character is now.
I would also have him become closer to his superhero peers, because in recent years he has become the odd one out and a bit of an outcast despite the decades of history of being close with them, my personal favorite period in his career was when he was living in Avengers tower with Aunt May and Mary Jane, the Avengers became a family and they mutually felt the same way about him, now they act like they barely know who he is and it’s dumb.
agreed honestly marvel should just make spiderman being Close friends with iceman and Firestar canon cuz ive always hated that in the main continuity he never had much friends so what'd I do is make like i just said iceman and Firestar his Close friends living in the Avengers Tower with Aunt May and Johnny Storm, i'd also want him to become Close friends with kitty pryde even if they dont date
@@devanbarrios9216 At this point I would be down with him being friends with any of the super teams as long as we get rid of this lone wolf look they made for him.
@@devanbarrios9216 same i would love it if Marvel makes iceman and firestar being peter's closest/best friends FINALLY canon like in the ultimate universe and like in the show and his closest friends on the x men should be 1. Iceman 2. Kitty Pryde 3. Beast 4. Firestar 5. Wolverine 6. Nightcrawler
@@T3aseW1thease I've always had this story idea where Emma Frost buys The Daily Bugle and uses it to promote Pro-Mutant articles and rehires Jameson as EIC since he was the only publisher willing to stand up for mutant rights. Another thing she buys is whatever is left of the Beyond Corporation, which includes the Spider-Man copyright. Now Peter has to work for her.
Cool video! Personally… I think the entire Spider-Man brand needs a massive continuity reboot. Like: All the deals each of the Spider-Men have made with Mephisto over the course of the franchise starts to cause more and more unforeseen consequences (albeit deaths, world disasters etc). Dr. Strange picks up on this and does a spell tracing it to five main individuals - Peter, Miles, Ben, Otto, and MJ. Strange does a spell to remove Mephisto’s influence on their memories (which also restores Ben’s identity/lost traits too). With Peter, Miles, Otto, and Ben all remembering deals they each made with Mephisto (with it being revealed Mephisto was responsible for Ben becoming Chasm in a deal we never saw before). But MJ has a bad reaction to the spell because part of her and Peter’s deal with Mephisto was that MJ would remember her and Peter’s marriage - at the cost of Mephisto being allowed to plant a demonic portion of his essence inside of her. With the demon using that essence to subtly influence MJ’s worst decisions (like Paul, not realizing when Peter was swapped with Otto back in Superior, doing a film with Mysterio etc). Mephisto takes control of MJ fully with Peter, Miles, Otto, and Ben teaming up with Spider-Gwen, Black Cat, Theresa, Kane, and Spider-Boy to fight Mephisto to the death to not only save MJ but the world too. The battle ends with Peter stabbing Mephisto with a sword made of his and MJ’s own mystical essence (provided by Strange) but destroying the demon before he was meant to be (by Mayday) causes a massive reset in the Marvel universe! When reality comes back, we see Peter standing over Aunt May’s grave (which is next to Uncle Ben’s). It’s the anniversary of her death. Peter is still an adult and still Spider-Man but Aunt May has been dead for around a decade now. Peter webs off. As he does we see graves of Jameson, Robbie, Liz and Harry. He and MJ are married, they love each other deeply but are in marriage counseling in this reality due to the traumatic “Spider-Related” incident that caused the death of Harry and Liz. Ben and Kane are Peter’s non-powered younger brothers (no longer clones who look exactly like him). He chats with them so often on the phone. Felicia is a rich philanthropist, who now owns the Daily Bugle (she and Peter have been old friends since high school all the way to now in this continuity). Peter and MJ have a teenage daughter (May) who ironically didn’t inherit her dad’s powers (yet), and her best friend is Miles (who is still a teenage Spider-Man, only now he’s the same age as May). Things seem to be going okay for everyone as they all gather together to remember Aunt May… until a blonde teenage girl (about two-years older than Mayday) knocks on the Parker family’s door - named “Maya” who is the illegitimate daughter of Peter and the deceased Gwen Stacy (from before she died). She’d been under the guidance of Peter’s sister (Theresa) in Shield for her own protection after Osborn killed her mother. Peter has known about this since it happened, but now has to explain to his wife and other daughter about all of it - including his reasoning for sending her away - and that Maya inherited her father’s powers and calls herself “Ghost-Spider”. But the biggest question would be why is she here at this random moment? With the Spider-Man books basically be about Peter taking on more of a mentor role in the heroics (focusing more on his life as a father, husband, brother etc) whilst the new generation of Spiders start to take over (Miles, Ghost-Spider, and eventually May). All while the mysteries of this new continuity unfold in the main marvel universe.
Dude, I really enjoyed your idea. However, I would change Felicia, May, Maya and Ben. Ben could still be a clone, but he would be more active in helping Peter, making us have two Spider-Men, same way we have two Flashes in DC... Well three actually, forgot about Jay. Anyway. Felicia could've become a more heroic person and she is now aiming to do better not only as Black Cat, but also as herself, turning in a philanthropist, and maybe she and Ben could be dating. May should be a kid, maybe 10 years older or a little less. Maya would be a teen. And no Miles, let Miles stay in another universe.
@@GiovanniAlckmimRusso Thanks! I like your idea of Felicia and Ben being together. That’d be cool. May being younger could work too. I can see your point on Miles, but after reading all the different Spider-Men series and I really enjoy their dynamic. So, I’m 50/50 on that one. But it could still work either way.
@@karate-cobras9542 well, I quit reading 616 Spider-Man sometime after Superior Spider-Man ended. Read one or two issues of Amazing Spider-Man, dropped, returned for when Peter made Parker Industries go global, but I didn't like it as it made him become a discount Iron Man and haven't returned ever since. And I'm not a fan of Miles. Only like him in the movies, so that's why I would prefer him in another universe. But still, really enjoyed your idea. Maybe doing this, restarting/altering the timeline by fully undoing Mephistopheles alterations could result in reset for other characters as well, like Hulk.
@@GiovanniAlckmimRussoThanks. I actually wouldn’t mind if Marvel did a sort of reset/reboot for their universe. Like Avengers used to be one of my favorite series (I’d jumped on during the New Avengers era) but now it’s one I never pickup anymore (dropped it around the Secret Empire crossover event). And even X-Men (now that Krakoa ended) has arguably the hardest jumping point for readers. A reset/reboot to those titles could really help reinvigorate those series, similar to Spider-Man.
@@karate-cobras9542 they sure need. A lot of stories released after Heroic Age era did a lot of harm to the quality of the characters specially the all new initiative. Of course that there are still some good stuff. Like Ghost Rider and Moon Knight, until Johnny stopped being Ghost Rider again and Marc was killed for no reason.
These are some good ideas! I wasn’t sure how I felt about Mysterio being able to have such a final prominent effect on Peter, But then again Mysterio also tricked Wolverine into killing the other mutants in Old Man Logan. Regardless of how we feel about what is done to Spider-Man, personally I kinda fail to see the weight of Peter’s personal life in modern comics. It kinda feels like in this current run, Peter doesn’t have the traditional moral centers. It focuses on Norman. But Norman isn’t just Peter’s friend, He’s his boss. He doesn’t have regular friends anymore with Ned Harry and Harry’s clone all dead, Flash as Agent Anti-Venom, and Randy focusing mostly on his wedding and his campaigning to overturn Fisk’s law. Peter has little in the way of relationships/romances. I don’t remember the last time I saw Aunt May. I think if we focused more on who Peter is as a person and not everything being about him being Spider-Man, it would be better all around. Also there being like 10 other Spider-People really doesn’t sell the urgency for Peter to be Spider-Man anymore. At the current stage with all that’s happened in his life, all that’s changed, and all of the other Spider-People there are now, we should move Peter away from NYC. I’m talking Bloodhaven era! New relationships, new friends, new villains. This should bring back some of that classic relatability. He’s on his own again. No backup. And then tell good stories.
I've always been opposed to Spider-Gwen dating Miles in the comics. I let the Spider-Verse movie get away with it because it's about characters from different universes get together in a movie series about different universes, it's the whole point. In the comics if you make Miles and Gwen date you'll basically be giving Miles Peters love interest instead of making his own. It doesn't matter if spider gwen is more popular or well known compared to the old gwen stacy, her character still originated from that impactful story for Peter, her entire universe is "How do we make it different from Peter Parker?" she is still connected to peter parker. Also I agree with that if she keeps talking to Peter in 616 then her death might as well be regarded as undone.
just bc Spider-Gwen looks and has the same name as Gwen Stacy doesnt mean she's 616 Gwen her and 616 gwen have entirely different personalities and are nothing like eachother so miles dating her wouldnt really be him stealing peter's love interest since spider-gwen herself has never dated Peter also her death wouldnt be undone if she kept on talking to 616 peter bc like i said they are completely different people and 616 Peter knows that
@@T3aseW1thease My guy, Gwen Stacy died but then years later another version of her moves into the main Marvel Universe presumably forever and will be alongside Peter, idk how that doesn't count as undoing a character death in you're eye's. Spider-Gwen still originated from peter, her whole point is "A different universe where Spider-Man's girlfriend is alive and got his powers" her dating Miles in the comics would be stupid as hell, thankfully I doubt the Miles writing team would do that.
@@kaine8911 i would understand IF they had the same personalty but they dont so she's practically a different person and her ending up with miles wouldnt be ''stealing peter's love interest'' since she's a different person also how is her originating from peter relevant? that doesnt change the fact that she's a different person
Another reason to get Ghost Spider gone from the 616 verse is, despite being a symbiote adjacent character due to being the Venom of her verse, she doesn't interact with Eddie, Dylan or Flash. At best Knull brought her version of MJ also to 616 to turn her into Carnage and even then it had no impact on the King In Black story itself. So the one connection they could've used that doesn't have the same baggage as Peter and Miles Marvel aren't really interested in using. There really is no point in her being here sad to say.
There's a reason why Mary Jane will always be the love interest in movies, cartoons, and videos games. People love Spider-man and Mary Jane as a married couple with kids. After the history they went through the years how could they not. People hated one more day because they separated Spider-man and Mary Jane as a married couple who could have had kids in the 616 universe. But of course they killed off May Day Parker in the 616 universe. There's a reason why Spider-man renew your vows and Ultimate Spider-man 2024 exist.
there should be variety tho like i understand that she's his Main Love interest but if he keeps on ending up with Mj in every single adaptation then its just going to get boring and repetive especially since most people have the exact same idea for Peter and Mj for every adaptation. Peter's in Highschool, College, Starts Dating Gwen, Gwen Dies, Peter starts dating Mj, Gets married to Mj, Peter becomes the Older SM while being on the Avengers, Miles becomes the younger and more street level spiderman, Peter and Mj have Mayday, Miles grows ups, Peter Dies, Miles then starts mentoring mayday, Mayday and Miles become the main spider people of NY. that's pretty much everyone's plan so there should be some adaptation where idk he ends up with Gwen or silk, Kitty Pryde, Black Cat etc
@T3aseW1thease Frankly a very bad take because you can't beat MJ in popularity, writers made her a bitch just so they can fulfill their fan pairings for Spider. Any pairing would just be nonsensical and unfair, MJ is the end-all be-all, no exceptions.
@@acrsclspdrcls1365 so its a bad take bc no person can beat Mj in Popularity? didnt stop Tasm 1 and 2 from using gwen also how would any other pairing be unfair to mj when she has been featured in almost every single adaptation and no other love interest has been given their own time to show frankly its quite unfair to them also you do realize that the general public hates/dislikes mj right?
@@T3aseW1theaseComplete lie. Also TASM was planning on introducing MJ as well. Spider-Man isn’t a harem anime. You don’t remove Clark Kent from Lois Lane. Same with Peter and MJ.
@@SuperBatman1939 I was talking about how it didnt stop tasm 1 and 2 using gwen first i never said that they werent planning on introducing mj later. also why tf do yall want the same thing? like seriously also with Clark kent is different bc lois was and is pretty much his only love interest apart from lana Peter on the other hand has had like 10 love interest so that argument doesnt work here
Miles being brought into the 616 universe KILLED SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CHARACTER, he should've just been a permanent member of the Spider-Verse Guardians along with Spider-UK.
I loved this so much especially with the part of Mary jane finally leaving paul finally and going back to Peter parker Spiderman which could open the door for my girl mayday parker spider-girl finally existing in the main marvel universe which makes me so happy because damn it I love Peter parker and mary jane marriage and them having there daughter mayday parker spider-girl and miles Morales Spider-Man finally in the for front is really awesome and amazing in my opinion.
Here's some of my ideas on how to permanently fix Spider-Man 1 have Aunt May finally stay dead and keep it that way 2 redeem and kill off some of the villains already and then introduce new ones once a year or something 3 let Peter and MJ finally stay together and have kids 4 if you want the essence of a younger Spider-Man then use Miles Morales for that 5 have Peter Parker be a mentor to other spider people teach them the basics giving them wisdom and then share his experiences to Future spider people 6 if you want to make Spider-Man suffer then give him the type of suffering that means something and that supposed to help and learn and grow not turning it into torture porn or constantly putting the character down because as much as you need lows you need the highs as well 7 And have Peter Parker finally grow up and I mean in character development because we need this way more than him regressing back to the same boring ass status quo This is how I would fix Spider-Man comics and you are free to agree or disagree on this
3:54 Also, don't get Mephisto to just say it was a dream. Mephisto has a proper goal here. His goal is to ensure Mayday Parker never exists. Just make it be as if he's been breaking some rules in their deals and contracts and causing Peter to suffer more, and that Mephisto was responsible in putting Peter in those circumstances which egged him on to make those deals. It's on-brand for someone like him. And then let it be an all-out brawl. For once, to hit the point home, bring Strange along. Strange will be the first to catch on to all this and the big plan, and let him be the one to rally the Avengers. I want Peter to get pummelled by Mephisto in that epic duel, and then we need an Endgame-style portals scene where every Avenger and X-Man now shows up, to have Peter's back, finally giving a sense of satisfaction, that despite all his failings, all his misery, he was not along, and the people he has befriended, inspired, and saved, now all come to his aid. Heck, throw in some of Spidey's former villains that he's helped before too. Big epic battle and Mephisto is defeated. And then finally, when Mephisto is defeated, and MJ learns about all this, he and MJ need to have a long conversation about how to move forward. And they decide to make things right, and start their relationship again. This HAS to be a feel-good story, and a major event. A full on Marvel crossover arc if necessary. This will be symbolic of the entire comic book franchise teaming up to protect their flagship hero. If with great power, comes great responsibility, then by handling that great responsibility, there must also come great happiness.
enlighten me since spider-gwen and 616 gwen are completely different people with different personalities who just look and have the same name as eachother
The reality is that bc of how good the spiderverse movies and games have pushed peter as an adult and miles as the plucky highschooler the general audience probably actually does prefer miles as the young spiderman and peter as the older mentor and its frustrating that comics always want to regress peter to a teenager when there is one right there
You LOSS ME the moment you allow the idiot replacement lover to stay....we want that dude GONE, no amount of good writing will fix that, is a self insert that just ruined one of the best things in American comics, just get rid of that parasite, he and the kids, erased from existence, is the only potential solution to this. to START fixing Spiderman.
Agree 100%: Norman should finally die, make his death special, heroic, he's redeemed at last, but make it permanent. Aunt May finally die, respectful, peaceful and for God's sake let her have a final convo with Peter that she's ready to go and be with Ben, Peter will accept her death and not do another fucking spell or whatever to keep her alive. Miles Morales respectfully, don't agree: 616 is getting too crowded with Spider-People. Should be a Spider Multiverse story arc where Miles and Gwen leave 616 retcon to their own "new" reality, having no memory of the 616 and Peter Parker. Miles Morales should have his Earth restored, have his own identity be the Main Spider-Man of his reality. Spider-Gwen should be in her own universe as well separate from Miles, she should be the premiere Spider-Person of her own universe, take up the mantle of Spider-Woman, she falls in love with Peter Parker who never became Spider-Man, he went to Medical School, he's an ER Resident Physician. Mary-Jane Watson has been OOC in this Zeb Wells run to the point she's been damaged in the eyes of fandom. She's no longer "Lois Lane of Marvel" but just a Fickle Cheater whose love has a time limit- 11 Months into her 4 year exile, she gave up on Peter Parker and hooked up with a Rando Nothing named Paul. IF this is the real MJ, she'll never be trusted again by fandom, this shit has to retconned or MJ/Jackpot is an Imposter this whole time to save her character. Paul Rabin just doesn't get a free pass and goes on with his life. MJ and Paul mess can't be written off as a couple breaking up, no harm, no foul. I don't want mind-control, that reeks too much of the infamous Avenger 200, I'd go with Imposter who was split off from the Real Mary-Jane at time of transport, the Real Mary Jane is in Dimensional Cocoon, safe in suspended animation, she's not 4 years older, she's never met Paul, never played house with him and fake kids for 3+ Years, never dumped Peter after her rescue and never became Jackpot. Spider-Man and Jackpot are in a desperate fight with whomever, Jackpot finally rolls 3 Skulls, she doesn't die but the Real Mary-Jane is instantly freed from her Cocoon. Paul sees this and is enraged, he screams at some unknown force (Mephisto): "No, you promised me Mary-Jane would be mine at last!" Paul turns to Jackpot "You're a fake like those 2 brats I created!" He runs to the real Mary-Jane and tells her he loves her, come with him, the Real Mary-Jane slaps him hard and tells him F*** Off, runs away from him to Spider-Man, Paul tries to grab her but Spider-Man shoves him away from her, Paul knows the jig is up, he takes out a hidden device and teleports away, possibly back to his world. The Real Mary-Jane and Peter Parker are reunited at last, embrace, kiss, with his Spider-Sense, Peter knows that this the Real Mary-Jane. Jackpot looks on, shocked, her bracelet is dead, no power, takes off her goggles, drops down to her knees in despair, she's totem, a fake this whole time, she's not and never was Mary-Jane Watson.
Additionally Jackpot may recieve as a result the Riku Replica treatment in regards of losing herself in her jealousy so much that she'd try to murder the real deal for the sake of being... well the real MJ............ unsuccesfully
Miles is way too good right now. Please keep Gwen away from him, I agree. Gwen and Silk need a duo series. One where they get Gwen back to her home world and when she reappears there - we see things are abit different. Some actual villains there, and some actual need for her. Maybe a mystery with a new Lizard and the book works on finding out who this new Lizard is and if Peter is involved someway. Seeing how important it is, Silk would want to help Gwen with this. Get a sisterly bond going with the two. Jessica Drew book would be her still working with the Avengers with Carol as a main role and maybe Anya as her protege. Have them do some off world adventures with Carol so they're not all just based in New York. I think Ben needs a Kaine series and im glad they're getting it. Kaine will fix Ben I truly believe, and return him to his Scarlet Spider route. Then crazy enough, I'd have Ben working closely with Madelyn going forward to reign in some Limbo escapees that are terrorizing certain parts of the world. It'll give him purpose and also his own weird rogues to deal with. Peter honestly needs time away, like maybe even away from New York and teaming up with Mockingbird or some of his older allies. Let him start to rebuild some solid character growth and show how much of a leader and reliable he can be. I want him to come back to NY as better man, back with MJ, working on a future. Cause honestly the end goal should be he has Mayday and Uncle Miles shows her the ropes while Peter is doing larger things such as leading his own company to better NY not just from a Hero stance but by its infrastructure like when he was leading Parker Industries. Maybe rehabilitating some of his old villains to work with him. Would open the door for new Villains he'll have to deal with - same with Miles. MJ and Blackcat book is fine if you rip out the Jackpot part of it. These two are so good together that I like their chemistry. Have them go into business with each other in a Mini-series.
@@Spider-Cat1605 I’m down for that too. Honestly they need to do something to explain why she’s been acting the way she is or it wouldn’t work. MJ from the Kraven’s Last Hunt era was a great supportive character for Peter. With her own Miniseries she can go back to that with a good writer
I actuelly never read a spiderman comic in my life, i grew up with the character through the Sam raimi spiderman trilogy, the spectacular spiderman, spiderman 2 pc game,spiderman the new animated series
Unfortunately, no matter what good ideas anyone comes up with, there’s still the biggest threat to mainline Spider-Man that writers would need to deal with: Marvel Editorial. Or at least Nick Lowe. They are the biggest obstacles to Peter Parker Spider-Man making any true progress as a character and getting good canon stories overall. Once they’re out of the way, and replaced with better editors, then we can seriously entertain the notion of Peter getting great in-continuity stories again.
2 questions 1. If Mysterio or Mephisto do reverse one more day 3:47/3:49 wouldn’t that mean the events in Civil War will also get reversed ? 2. How would you feel if Ben Riley goes back to his Sensational Spider-Man suit ?
Here’s my idea , No more bs breakups between Peter and Mj , let them be happen and have the life they deserve. And the same goes with Ben Reilly and Jannie , and have him or either miles , or both be the next generations of spider-man , and also slowly introduce other spider characters. And have Peter bad Mj have Annie and mayday return , and let them be a family
What id do to get back mj and peter is reveal nightmare messed with peters head and it was all a nightmare and strange saves him and realizes hes still married and the new arc could be peter thinking mj deserves better but at the end realizes they are right for each other. You cant put mj and peter back together when she has kids. Youll make him look bad
Here's a fun question Do you think spider man should stop being a hero at this point Because being a hero Has Gotten him nothing I honestly think it's time for Spider-Man To take revenge on everyone that's wrong ( People can go Call it his villain ark Which is fine with me 😊 Because I know for a fact when he's not a hero His life is so much better And that's probably When he will get with black cat )
Honestly I don’t mind if Peter stop being a hero, because he went through a lot of trouble to safe people. And he got the short end of the stick. But during the run, black cat left Spider-Man because their relationship was stable. Like what, that part doesn’t make sense?
@kevinkeenan-2.1 It doesn't make sense There's no real world basis for it That was pacifically the writer Wanting it gone Which I believe Is eventually going to get forgotten😅 And end up to gather like nothing happened And if you think about it in a comic book timeline They may have been only dating for a few days or weeks 😂 I think at this point even Mephisto It's starting to feel bad for him 🤣 He probably going Offer peter A deal (but with the only Condition being stop being a hero and leave this place Leave New York City, leave America, just stop being a hero) To fix and Given his best life If he agrees to his condition Mephisto Peter, you should really consider my offer Because this is something i've never done and offered anyone before Your life is so bad you made me Feel sorry for you Peter That's what happens when you're me Mephisto And that's why you should take my offer boy I don't even want your soul I just want you to stop doing this to yourself
The Only things that i would change would be that Ben Reilly developes a Close friendship with the x-men and then he eventually joins the team and starts dating x-23, the second thing that i would change is that peter wouldnt get back together with mj Immediatly instead peter would of moved on from her and started dating Silk and Mj would have to earn back Peter's trust.
I think at this point even Mephisto It's starting to feel bad for him 🤣 He probably Offer peter A deal (but with the only Condition being stop being a hero and leave this place Leave New York City, leave America, just stop being a hero) To fix and Given his best life If he agrees to his condition Mephisto Peter, you should really consider my offer Because this is something i've never done and offered anyone before Your life is so bad you made me Feel sorry for you Peter That's what happens when you're me Mephisto And that's why you should take my offer boy I don't even want your soul I just want you to stop doing this to yourself
For me, i feel like Miles needs to grow up. Like grow into collage and get a job maybe. Let him be a mentor for once, make a new Spider-man but totally different from both Peter and Miles. MakeMiles the mentor, give him a Girlfriend which will stick for the long run. Make new and improved enemies for Miles insted of aticking with the classic Spuder-man villians and giving them legacy villians. Maybe some will work but not all of them. Make the Nes spider-man different. Like giving him an introverted peraonality so he oftens work or hang out alone. Also, better to give him newer problems insted of the poor boy act we got already. Maybe make him rich, but he isolates himself because of his introverted peraonaliy and lack of friends. It would change the typical prro boy strugles and give him new strugles to overcome.
Or they could lean into the fact that Paul and mj don’t have anything in common without the kids they could say that Paul wants to settle down and have another family but Mary Jane is still suffering from the trauma of finding out that her kids were fake and then watching then disappear they could reset the friendship with black cat by saying that during there solo run that cctv cameras cought black cat working with jackpot souring public opinion of her while black cats standing in the criminal underworld has suffered do to her and her girlfriend stealing from the owl and for working with a new superhero so in order to regain her criminal reputation black cat leaves New York for a while to build back up her criminal contacts meanwhile in the spiderman run we see the return of Carly cooper Spider-Man’s cop ex girlfriend where she returns to New York to go under cover to take down the power broker (a marvel villain that sells super tech on the black market we see Carly and Peter slowly start to rekindle there relationship now that he’s not having to lie to her about his secret identity the reason she dumped him meanwhile Paul and Mary Jane are arguing about her late nights of superheroics putting a strain on there relationship Paul wants to leave New York and settle down somewhere where as Mary Jane dosent want to leave New York due to her friends and family being there and how she’s actively ignoring her feelings on there relationship leading to them having a fight and her storming out her best friend black cat being out of New York thinking it’s a bad idea but not having anybody els to talk to it about she goes to her ex boyfriend Peter but as she gets to peters apartment she sees Carly cooper walking out after running into Mary Jane she actually thinks it’s perfect timing as she needs mj and Peter to go undercover to a charity event that’s a front for smuggling super tech at first Mary Jane asks for a few days to think it over and in the meantime she gets into a fight with the rino in this fight her bracelet is damaged and when she asks Paul to fix it he actually refuses to stating that she’s bin neglecting him this causes another argument and she storms out accepting the mission from Carly on the mission she and Peter start to banter and quip showing that there is still a spark between them after the mission mj comes home to find out about the mission and they argue and Paul gives Mary Jane and ultimatum he has two tickets leaving New York and he’s leaving with or without her meanwhile Carly and Peter or out getting coffee and Carly tells Peter that a relationship between them isn’t plausible considering now that her mission is done she’ll be leaving New York and her and Peter leave things on good terms cut to a couple of hours later we see Mary Jane at peters door in tears stating that Paul left her and she sobs in peters arms meanwhile we see Paul and Carly on the same train leaving New York sitting next to each other setting up some romance drama for sometime in the future
I just want Peter and Cindy to date each other and have a child. Before that get rid of Paul and make MJ regret everything she did to Peter. Then make a story where Peter has moved on and rejected the offer to get back into a relationship with MJ because he already loves silk and has a responsibility towards silk.
I've always hated MJ because she doesn't fit into Peter's life where he has to have two identities as Peter and Spider-Man, she's just a replacement for Gwen.
I think if you want to make MJ and Peter come back, MJ must still have superpowers because otherwise they will definitely fight like what happened in issue 602-605 where MJ felt she was like a cop's wife but worse, because MJ thinks that the cop had another wife to talk to
So if Peter wants to have a girlfriend, she should at least have superpowers that can help him in his heroic activities. We can't force Spider-Man to have a relationship like Superman and Lois.
@@teofilus865 he should FINALLY start dating Kittty Pryde its been long overdue and she would also be really good for peter and to all the people saying that they've barely interacted Kitty Pryde and Star-Lord have never interacted prior to 2014 and they met in "The Trial of Jean Grey." and she even joined the guardians and they were even going to get married but kitty called it off but there's no reason to think that the same couldnt happen to Peter
Wait Spider Gwen has been on earth 616 this whole time?! What happened to earth 65A? This is coming from a casual Spider-Man who's only read a handful of comics if your wondering
Their are so many great and talent writers that make Spider-Man to be successful, but Marvel keeps hiring cheap and non-talent writers that actively hates fans and the characters and Marvel is just allowing them to do that to Spidey and sells keep dropping
Remove MJ and Paul. Marry Peter to Felicia or another heroine, let him develop and become a rich genius again. Create new villains to replace the classic ones (Norman and Otto should have died long ago). Let Miles become a street-level hero and Peter lead a group of higher-level heroes. Maybe even the Avengers.
I like most of the ideas here, but you can’t have aunt May die to Mysterio. I’d personally prefer old age over a (In my opinion) Spider-Man B Lister killing her off. Put some respect on the old woman’s name. Still love the vid though.
Thanks! And yeah maybe.. I mean as long as it’s meaningful and makes sense for the story I don’t see any issue with it. But yeah I mean as long as she is killed off, it’s okay
Think they should give Peter an other girlfriend before MJ comes back with seeing that she still have feelings for him, Peter seeing that MJ is the one but has some trust issues after Paul ?, sometime after Aunt Mays Death they getting back together with him asking if she really wants that (dangerous live) and she saying yes Think recreating or update or change/comebine some old obscure villains would be cool. Like a new Biotrasformed Rhino (Old one gets pice) Some joke villains who is Peter having fun with Camelion is back (who is the faker story, not killing the real one just replacing him for a job) New Crimemaster (compentent, Zylinder, always 3 step before Spidy and compared for all outcomes, sells his talents for heist planning) Shoker beeing the Head of the magia and not a joke Want to see a story about the inmates from Mjs Aunt or about the low level villains with the bar with no name Actually would give some old villains a good rest or changing them with aa newer version or let them be in activ
also just because Spider-Gwen is named Gwen Stacy doesnt mean she's 616 Gwen their personalities are SO much different then eachother that Spider-Gwen is just a completely different person then her and i doubt Peter would date her or that she would even date him
@@onglanh5329 not really i mean there are plenty of women in their early 20s dating guys in their late to early 30s so i dont really see a problem with i and isnt she only like 3-5 years older than miles? cuz i also dont really see a problem with that either if miles is an adult
@@LewisFilmsProductions If you could actually point to a mistake Peter has made this arc then that would be one thing. But he actually did not do anything wrong. The only reason Osborn might get the upper hand here is because of the Spider-Man who gobbles which is more of Kraven's fault then anything else.
This doesn't fix the MJ thing at all. You cannot salvage the Paul relationship. You cannot just get rid of him. And this is why people bring in Mephisto and erasing the run entirely. The Mary Jane who left Peter for Paul is a Mary Jane that does not love Peter. He is decidedly not her "one", because she was willing to leave him fro someone else. Her having an affair with Paul where isolated would be bad enough, it would show that her love is weak and unable to sustain her faith in Peter for even a year. Now Peter has a timer on him. Get trapped for too long? Go to jail? spend a year in a war in space? MJ is going to leave his ass. How can this be his true love if her love is that weak? But the killer blow is that once her weak faith was proven wrong, she still chose to stay with Paul. For "years" if we believe this book's timeline. That's not a woman who you can ever trust or believe again. You've just turned Peter into a pathetic simp. He would forever be the Spider-cuck if he took back MJ after she just left him for another man. Because that means she's not committed nor does she really care or love Peter.(given the nonchalant way she left him). An MJ that started and left Peter for Paul is never a viable love interest again. It makes Peter and JAG and MJ a THOT, and it's all grossly out of character. Two wrongs DO make a right when the original wrong is both so destructive and so disrespectful to the characters involved that it ruins both the past (every time she said "I love you" is now a cruel lie) and the future (you can never believe her ever again). THere can be no willing Paul relationship. The Pitchforks are staying firmly raised. Also, Mysterio being a major figure doesn't make any sense given the way his relationship with Peter and MJ developed during the Spencer run. He doesn't really make sense as a vaillain at all, frankly,, so doubling down on that is just furthering this run's sins.
Completely disagree. As a writer my first instinct would never to be doubling down on horrible decisions. We have to work with what we're given, and making Paul a good character I believe is the best way to go, slowly but surely reversing things back to the way that they were. Also your point about Peter being a "simp" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Peter has been with many other people since dating MJ, wouldn't same apply for her? I get your passion for wanting to just completely undo this run, and we do stand togehter on that, but I couldn't just completely disregard everything. Every writer knows the "oh it was just a dream" ending is one of the worst things you could do, and I wasn't willing to take that easy way out.
@@LewisFilmsProductions The same doesn't apply because how the situations arose are not the same. In the past they've broken up and there has been a reason, however poorly written and contrived, that they could not be together. Whether that was MJ's fear of commitment,, Peter's belief she was shallow and uncaring, or her BS fear of Spider-Man antics. And, in every case past the first one in the Romita era, they made it clear that there were feelings but there was some dealbreaker. No break up ever occured here. This is not them dating other people after deciding they couldn't be together,, while tiresome and contrived that would be, it would be salvagable. This is them being together and then her deciding she would rather be with someone else. It's an active choice to be unfaithful and abandon one person purely for another person. There is not and never was any obstacle to her being with Peter. Even her lack of faithfulness during their forced separation, which could have been an obstacle for him, was basically ignored. And if there is no obstacle, then what she's telling us is that she loves Paul more than Peter, and PEter just isn't that special to her. In short, her ACTIONS tell us that Peter is not the man she loves most of all, and if he's not her number 1 he would be a fool to take her back when her actions show us she's always on the look out for the next Paul. And ALL of this is grossly out of character. "it was all a dream" isnt' the worst thing you can do. THIS STORY is the worst thing you can do, because its a total betrayal of who she is and what she always wanted and completely ruins her from further use. There is no romance story where one party unilaterally decided to leave the other for years for no reason other than preference. That said, there are other ways to undo it, fakes and mind control and the like, but it has to be undone. Paul doesn't matter. You can make him the most interesting moral upstanding person in the world, the damage is the same. We're not ever going to say "oh, well it's ok if she left Peter for this guy because he's great". That doesn't help anything. If she's willing to leave him, she isn't committed, she doesn't love him, and that's why he should never take back anyone who was willing to do that to him.
After hearing you explain this, you are giving me the there is no hope ye mortal..no light in the darkness. There is only pain and suffering, and the never ending torment. ( Marvel have never payed much attention to what Spider-man fans want ) So unless you send your idea to marvel editorial and they accepted your salvation. I will stay in my little pit of despair and hope marvel is in such financial trouble they feel they need to fire on all cilinders and give us back what we the fans so want and that is Peter and MJ 's marriage back. 😂 .. 😢 It was a good solution, but...ya Marvel....
Hello, I'm Thai, so this is Google translate. If there are any mistakes, I apologize. In my opinion, I agree with everything except the spider-gwen thing. I'd like to give it a try. As for Spider Man/Peter Parker, why didn't Peter become a single father? I don't know that in the OMD event it was erased that Peter and MJ's marriage never happened. Or did everyone just forget that it ever happened and was replaced with new memories? (If anyone knows this, please help me.) But what if everyone just forgets that it ever happened? The story goes like this: Peter will remember all of the events of OMD., including what happened to his daughter May, which we can assume that Mephisto may have been behind. We don't know what really happened to her. Besides Scorpion's words that Norman had killed the baby. Perhaps some of the Hell Lords knew Mephisto's fear of the baby and came to his aid. and hid her (certainly not out of kindness), but in the end Peter knew the truth and went to save her. In fact, there are more details than this, but I'm afraid there are too many (I'm just too lazy to type😓😓).
Their are so many great and talent writers that make Spider-Man to be successful, but Marvel keeps hiring cheap and non-talent writers that actively hates fans and the characters and Marvel is just allowing them to do that to Spidey and sells keep dropping
The problems are not the writers but the editorial. No matters how many great ideas the writers have, the editorial still have the final say. Zeb Wells did a terrible job with this run but believe it or not, his past works show that he is a competent writer. He wrote many good Spider-man story before.
We really need a consistently great writer on a title like The Amazing Spider-man.
I enjoyed it for the most part however, not only Gwen, but Miles should be removed from 616 as well. Make Paul a supervillain and make Peter and Mary Jane get back once and for all
I'm convinced i could write a better spiderman story. I'm 18 and have no writers experience. I consider the bar underground
But the problem with Paul is that he didn’t earned anything and about the Spider-Man who laughs I was expecting for Across the spider Verse before it came out that not every Spider-People is welcomed because they have gone down dark paths like the Batman who laughs.
How I would write it, spider-Gwen should go back to her universe. Paul Rabin became a super villain after obtaining special tech he gained. Absorbing MJ’s powers, for his own benefit to defeat Spider-Man. Peter ends up defeating him and sending him back to his own universe. Then, he decides to move out of New York, since he is through protecting the people who thinks he is a menace. Move to a small town and start a new life.
I gave up mainline Spider-Man comics a long time ago. Unless Marvel retcon’s one more day, I might actually go read Spider-Man books again.
I think the only thing they can save peter And perhaps fix a lot of things. Would him become the new king in all black / symbol god Which is confirmed he is worthy of the mantal
If you don't know what i'm talking about, get into the venom lore
With that power he can deal with Mephisto
It's simple erase One More Day from canon and make Mayday Parker canon. It's time for Peter Parker to grow up.
Seeing a lot of people's pitches be like "Peter should reject MJ and start dating [insert female character here]" while forgetting the most important thing about Spider-Man: Mary Jane is intrinsically tied to the DNA of the Spider-Man franchise. She's the heart of the book. She keeps Peter grounded to his humanity, something Felicia or Kitty Pryde or even Gwen Stacy can't exactly do. Does the current MJ have bad writing? Yes. But that shouldn't mean Marvel get rid of her (also, Peter and Mary Jane being together sells look at Ultimate Spider-Man).
Then what about Silk, what's the reason to make her "the bride" Totem
@@teofilus865to unnecessarily add on to the Totem lore of Spider-Man that doesn't work.
@@devanbarrios9216so does MJ in comic right? She's just a replacement for Gwen
@@teofilus865 not really. She's just like Peter; they both hide behind masks to escape their trauma (Peter with the death of Uncle Ben and Mary Jane with her abusive family).
@@teofilus865because Dan Slott was actively trying to replace MJ with another romantic interest.
But you can’t just do that and expect it to land. Which is what everyone who tried to replace MJ has never understood; she’s been Peter’s true love for nearly 50 years. It’s too late to try and seriously convince us of anyone else.
I absolutely agree with on this with only two changes. I want to finish the Black Cat and Jackpot miniseries, because it is doing a lot for Felicia and I want Ben to keep the Chasm suit and name because a) it’s fire and b) it builds a need for redemption among the people of New York. New York will probably trust Scarlet Spider, but not Chasm and that means he will have to build that again. Venom had to do something similar and look at where the character is now.
That’s fair. In terms of Felicia, I’d probably start something new for her but take elements of what they started in JPandBC
I would also have him become closer to his superhero peers, because in recent years he has become the odd one out and a bit of an outcast despite the decades of history of being close with them, my personal favorite period in his career was when he was living in Avengers tower with Aunt May and Mary Jane, the Avengers became a family and they mutually felt the same way about him, now they act like they barely know who he is and it’s dumb.
agreed honestly marvel should just make spiderman being Close friends with iceman and Firestar canon cuz ive always hated that in the main continuity he never had much friends so what'd I do is make like i just said iceman and Firestar his Close friends living in the Avengers Tower with Aunt May and Johnny Storm, i'd also want him to become Close friends with kitty pryde even if they dont date
Honestly, I think that if Peter were to have more superhero friends it should be with the X-Men, not the Avengers.
@@devanbarrios9216 At this point I would be down with him being friends with any of the super teams as long as we get rid of this lone wolf look they made for him.
@@devanbarrios9216 same i would love it if Marvel makes iceman and firestar being peter's closest/best friends FINALLY canon like in the ultimate universe and like in the show and his closest friends on the x men should be
1. Iceman
2. Kitty Pryde
3. Beast
4. Firestar
5. Wolverine
6. Nightcrawler
@@T3aseW1thease I've always had this story idea where Emma Frost buys The Daily Bugle and uses it to promote Pro-Mutant articles and rehires Jameson as EIC since he was the only publisher willing to stand up for mutant rights. Another thing she buys is whatever is left of the Beyond Corporation, which includes the Spider-Man copyright. Now Peter has to work for her.
Cool video! Personally… I think the entire Spider-Man brand needs a massive continuity reboot. Like:
All the deals each of the Spider-Men have made with Mephisto over the course of the franchise starts to cause more and more unforeseen consequences (albeit deaths, world disasters etc). Dr. Strange picks up on this and does a spell tracing it to five main individuals - Peter, Miles, Ben, Otto, and MJ. Strange does a spell to remove Mephisto’s influence on their memories (which also restores Ben’s identity/lost traits too). With Peter, Miles, Otto, and Ben all remembering deals they each made with Mephisto (with it being revealed Mephisto was responsible for Ben becoming Chasm in a deal we never saw before). But MJ has a bad reaction to the spell because part of her and Peter’s deal with Mephisto was that MJ would remember her and Peter’s marriage - at the cost of Mephisto being allowed to plant a demonic portion of his essence inside of her. With the demon using that essence to subtly influence MJ’s worst decisions (like Paul, not realizing when Peter was swapped with Otto back in Superior, doing a film with Mysterio etc). Mephisto takes control of MJ fully with Peter, Miles, Otto, and Ben teaming up with Spider-Gwen, Black Cat, Theresa, Kane, and Spider-Boy to fight Mephisto to the death to not only save MJ but the world too. The battle ends with Peter stabbing Mephisto with a sword made of his and MJ’s own mystical essence (provided by Strange) but destroying the demon before he was meant to be (by Mayday) causes a massive reset in the Marvel universe!
When reality comes back, we see Peter standing over Aunt May’s grave (which is next to Uncle Ben’s). It’s the anniversary of her death. Peter is still an adult and still Spider-Man but Aunt May has been dead for around a decade now. Peter webs off. As he does we see graves of Jameson, Robbie, Liz and Harry. He and MJ are married, they love each other deeply but are in marriage counseling in this reality due to the traumatic “Spider-Related” incident that caused the death of Harry and Liz. Ben and Kane are Peter’s non-powered younger brothers (no longer clones who look exactly like him). He chats with them so often on the phone. Felicia is a rich philanthropist, who now owns the Daily Bugle (she and Peter have been old friends since high school all the way to now in this continuity). Peter and MJ have a teenage daughter (May) who ironically didn’t inherit her dad’s powers (yet), and her best friend is Miles (who is still a teenage Spider-Man, only now he’s the same age as May). Things seem to be going okay for everyone as they all gather together to remember Aunt May… until a blonde teenage girl (about two-years older than Mayday) knocks on the Parker family’s door - named “Maya” who is the illegitimate daughter of Peter and the deceased Gwen Stacy (from before she died). She’d been under the guidance of Peter’s sister (Theresa) in Shield for her own protection after Osborn killed her mother. Peter has known about this since it happened, but now has to explain to his wife and other daughter about all of it - including his reasoning for sending her away - and that Maya inherited her father’s powers and calls herself “Ghost-Spider”. But the biggest question would be why is she here at this random moment? With the Spider-Man books basically be about Peter taking on more of a mentor role in the heroics (focusing more on his life as a father, husband, brother etc) whilst the new generation of Spiders start to take over (Miles, Ghost-Spider, and eventually May). All while the mysteries of this new continuity unfold in the main marvel universe.
Dude, I really enjoyed your idea. However, I would change Felicia, May, Maya and Ben. Ben could still be a clone, but he would be more active in helping Peter, making us have two Spider-Men, same way we have two Flashes in DC... Well three actually, forgot about Jay. Anyway. Felicia could've become a more heroic person and she is now aiming to do better not only as Black Cat, but also as herself, turning in a philanthropist, and maybe she and Ben could be dating. May should be a kid, maybe 10 years older or a little less. Maya would be a teen. And no Miles, let Miles stay in another universe.
@@GiovanniAlckmimRusso Thanks! I like your idea of Felicia and Ben being together. That’d be cool. May being younger could work too. I can see your point on Miles, but after reading all the different Spider-Men series and I really enjoy their dynamic. So, I’m 50/50 on that one. But it could still work either way.
@@karate-cobras9542 well, I quit reading 616 Spider-Man sometime after Superior Spider-Man ended. Read one or two issues of Amazing Spider-Man, dropped, returned for when Peter made Parker Industries go global, but I didn't like it as it made him become a discount Iron Man and haven't returned ever since. And I'm not a fan of Miles. Only like him in the movies, so that's why I would prefer him in another universe. But still, really enjoyed your idea. Maybe doing this, restarting/altering the timeline by fully undoing Mephistopheles alterations could result in reset for other characters as well, like Hulk.
@@GiovanniAlckmimRussoThanks. I actually wouldn’t mind if Marvel did a sort of reset/reboot for their universe. Like Avengers used to be one of my favorite series (I’d jumped on during the New Avengers era) but now it’s one I never pickup anymore (dropped it around the Secret Empire crossover event). And even X-Men (now that Krakoa ended) has arguably the hardest jumping point for readers. A reset/reboot to those titles could really help reinvigorate those series, similar to Spider-Man.
@@karate-cobras9542 they sure need. A lot of stories released after Heroic Age era did a lot of harm to the quality of the characters specially the all new initiative. Of course that there are still some good stuff. Like Ghost Rider and Moon Knight, until Johnny stopped being Ghost Rider again and Marc was killed for no reason.
These are some good ideas! I wasn’t sure how I felt about Mysterio being able to have such a final prominent effect on Peter, But then again Mysterio also tricked Wolverine into killing the other mutants in Old Man Logan.
Regardless of how we feel about what is done to Spider-Man, personally I kinda fail to see the weight of Peter’s personal life in modern comics. It kinda feels like in this current run, Peter doesn’t have the traditional moral centers. It focuses on Norman. But Norman isn’t just Peter’s friend, He’s his boss. He doesn’t have regular friends anymore with Ned Harry and Harry’s clone all dead, Flash as Agent Anti-Venom, and Randy focusing mostly on his wedding and his campaigning to overturn Fisk’s law. Peter has little in the way of relationships/romances. I don’t remember the last time I saw Aunt May.
I think if we focused more on who Peter is as a person and not everything being about him being Spider-Man, it would be better all around. Also there being like 10 other Spider-People really doesn’t sell the urgency for Peter to be Spider-Man anymore. At the current stage with all that’s happened in his life, all that’s changed, and all of the other Spider-People there are now, we should move Peter away from NYC. I’m talking Bloodhaven era! New relationships, new friends, new villains. This should bring back some of that classic relatability. He’s on his own again. No backup. And then tell good stories.
I've always been opposed to Spider-Gwen dating Miles in the comics. I let the Spider-Verse movie get away with it because it's about characters from different universes get together in a movie series about different universes, it's the whole point.
In the comics if you make Miles and Gwen date you'll basically be giving Miles Peters love interest instead of making his own. It doesn't matter if spider gwen is more popular or well known compared to the old gwen stacy, her character still originated from that impactful story for Peter, her entire universe is "How do we make it different from Peter Parker?" she is still connected to peter parker.
Also I agree with that if she keeps talking to Peter in 616 then her death might as well be regarded as undone.
just bc Spider-Gwen looks and has the same name as Gwen Stacy doesnt mean she's 616 Gwen her and 616 gwen have entirely different personalities and are nothing like eachother so miles dating her wouldnt really be him stealing peter's love interest since spider-gwen herself has never dated Peter also her death wouldnt be undone if she kept on talking to 616 peter bc like i said they are completely different people and 616 Peter knows that
@@T3aseW1thease My guy, Gwen Stacy died but then years later another version of her moves into the main Marvel Universe presumably forever and will be alongside Peter, idk how that doesn't count as undoing a character death in you're eye's.
Spider-Gwen still originated from peter, her whole point is "A different universe where Spider-Man's girlfriend is alive and got his powers" her dating Miles in the comics would be stupid as hell, thankfully I doubt the Miles writing team would do that.
@@kaine8911 i would understand IF they had the same personalty but they dont so she's practically a different person and her ending up with miles wouldnt be ''stealing peter's love interest'' since she's a different person also how is her originating from peter relevant? that doesnt change the fact that she's a different person
Marvel hire this man.
Hehe 😅
@@LewisFilmsProductionsYes we all hoped Marvel does hire you to fix the mistake Zeb Wells made with his asm run
@@LewisFilmsProductionsumma need a video on how would write a rebooted version of Spider-Man similar to ultimate line.
Yes
This video came out 4 hours ago but you're comment is 9 hours ago, how does that work?
Another reason to get Ghost Spider gone from the 616 verse is, despite being a symbiote adjacent character due to being the Venom of her verse, she doesn't interact with Eddie, Dylan or Flash. At best Knull brought her version of MJ also to 616 to turn her into Carnage and even then it had no impact on the King In Black story itself. So the one connection they could've used that doesn't have the same baggage as Peter and Miles Marvel aren't really interested in using. There really is no point in her being here sad to say.
There's a reason why Mary Jane will always be the love interest in movies, cartoons, and videos games. People love Spider-man and Mary Jane as a married couple with kids. After the history they went through the years how could they not. People hated one more day because they separated Spider-man and Mary Jane as a married couple who could have had kids in the 616 universe. But of course they killed off May Day Parker in the 616 universe. There's a reason why Spider-man renew your vows and Ultimate Spider-man 2024 exist.
there should be variety tho like i understand that she's his Main Love interest but if he keeps on ending up with Mj in every single adaptation then its just going to get boring and repetive especially since most people have the exact same idea for Peter and Mj for every adaptation. Peter's in Highschool, College, Starts Dating Gwen, Gwen Dies, Peter starts dating Mj, Gets married to Mj, Peter becomes the Older SM while being on the Avengers, Miles becomes the younger and more street level spiderman, Peter and Mj have Mayday, Miles grows ups, Peter Dies, Miles then starts mentoring mayday, Mayday and Miles become the main spider people of NY. that's pretty much everyone's plan so there should be some adaptation where idk he ends up with Gwen or silk, Kitty Pryde, Black Cat etc
@T3aseW1thease Frankly a very bad take because you can't beat MJ in popularity, writers made her a bitch just so they can fulfill their fan pairings for Spider. Any pairing would just be nonsensical and unfair, MJ is the end-all be-all, no exceptions.
@@acrsclspdrcls1365 so its a bad take bc no person can beat Mj in Popularity? didnt stop Tasm 1 and 2 from using gwen also how would any other pairing be unfair to mj when she has been featured in almost every single adaptation and no other love interest has been given their own time to show frankly its quite unfair to them also you do realize that the general public hates/dislikes mj right?
@@T3aseW1theaseComplete lie.
Also TASM was planning on introducing MJ as well.
Spider-Man isn’t a harem anime.
You don’t remove Clark Kent from Lois Lane.
Same with Peter and MJ.
@@SuperBatman1939 I was talking about how it didnt stop tasm 1 and 2 using gwen first i never said that they werent planning on introducing mj later. also why tf do yall want the same thing? like seriously also with Clark kent is different bc lois was and is pretty much his only love interest apart from lana Peter on the other hand has had like 10 love interest so that argument doesnt work here
I like how you didn't just erase Well's run instead you fixed it and made it better. Good video.
It got confirmed that Web Wells ASM run is ENDING THIS YEAR! I hope we get good comics for the next ASM run!
Dude, you should literally become the spider-man editor ASAP.
Hahah I’d love that
Miles being brought into the 616 universe KILLED SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CHARACTER, he should've just been a permanent member of the Spider-Verse Guardians along with Spider-UK.
And saying that the Totems didn’t work for Spider-Man then how would you explain the Immortal Hulk comics worked?
I think they should just outright remove MJ’s Powers. It’s Not like anyone’s actually ever going to see her more as “Jackpot” rather than MJ
I think they should do it with rhyme and reason.
I loved this so much especially with the part of Mary jane finally leaving paul finally and going back to Peter parker Spiderman which could open the door for my girl mayday parker spider-girl finally existing in the main marvel universe which makes me so happy because damn it I love Peter parker and mary jane marriage and them having there daughter mayday parker spider-girl and miles Morales Spider-Man finally in the for front is really awesome and amazing in my opinion.
Here's some of my ideas on how to permanently fix Spider-Man
1 have Aunt May finally stay dead and keep it that way
2 redeem and kill off some of the villains already and then introduce new ones once a year or something
3 let Peter and MJ finally stay together and have kids
4 if you want the essence of a younger Spider-Man then use Miles Morales for that
5 have Peter Parker be a mentor to other spider people teach them the basics giving them wisdom and then share his experiences to Future spider people
6 if you want to make Spider-Man suffer then give him the type of suffering that means something and that supposed to help and learn and grow not turning it into torture porn or constantly putting the character down because as much as you need lows you need the highs as well
7 And have Peter Parker finally grow up and I mean in character development because we need this way more than him regressing back to the same boring ass status quo
This is how I would fix Spider-Man comics and you are free to agree or disagree on this
3:54 Also, don't get Mephisto to just say it was a dream. Mephisto has a proper goal here. His goal is to ensure Mayday Parker never exists. Just make it be as if he's been breaking some rules in their deals and contracts and causing Peter to suffer more, and that Mephisto was responsible in putting Peter in those circumstances which egged him on to make those deals. It's on-brand for someone like him. And then let it be an all-out brawl. For once, to hit the point home, bring Strange along. Strange will be the first to catch on to all this and the big plan, and let him be the one to rally the Avengers. I want Peter to get pummelled by Mephisto in that epic duel, and then we need an Endgame-style portals scene where every Avenger and X-Man now shows up, to have Peter's back, finally giving a sense of satisfaction, that despite all his failings, all his misery, he was not along, and the people he has befriended, inspired, and saved, now all come to his aid. Heck, throw in some of Spidey's former villains that he's helped before too. Big epic battle and Mephisto is defeated.
And then finally, when Mephisto is defeated, and MJ learns about all this, he and MJ need to have a long conversation about how to move forward. And they decide to make things right, and start their relationship again. This HAS to be a feel-good story, and a major event. A full on Marvel crossover arc if necessary. This will be symbolic of the entire comic book franchise teaming up to protect their flagship hero. If with great power, comes great responsibility, then by handling that great responsibility, there must also come great happiness.
Its not just devaluing the death of gwen stacy, it causes so many paradoxes that it could do unrepairable damage to the story
absolutely agree
enlighten me since spider-gwen and 616 gwen are completely different people with different personalities who just look and have the same name as eachother
When’s your video on shadow of the goblin coming out
After the series is finished
The reality is that bc of how good the spiderverse movies and games have pushed peter as an adult and miles as the plucky highschooler the general audience probably actually does prefer miles as the young spiderman and peter as the older mentor and its frustrating that comics always want to regress peter to a teenager when there is one right there
To true
You LOSS ME the moment you allow the idiot replacement lover to stay....we want that dude GONE, no amount of good writing will fix that, is a self insert that just ruined one of the best things in American comics, just get rid of that parasite, he and the kids, erased from existence, is the only potential solution to this. to START fixing Spiderman.
I meannnn you should be happy if you carried on watching 😏
Could we get a Mayday Spider-Girl comic too? Maybe a mini series.
Absolutely!
Agree 100%: Norman should finally die, make his death special, heroic, he's redeemed at last, but make it permanent. Aunt May finally die, respectful, peaceful and for God's sake let her have a final convo with Peter that she's ready to go and be with Ben, Peter will accept her death and not do another fucking spell or whatever to keep her alive.
Miles Morales respectfully, don't agree: 616 is getting too crowded with Spider-People. Should be a Spider Multiverse story arc where Miles and Gwen leave 616 retcon to their own "new" reality, having no memory of the 616 and Peter Parker. Miles Morales should have his Earth restored, have his own identity be the Main Spider-Man of his reality. Spider-Gwen should be in her own universe as well separate from Miles, she should be the premiere Spider-Person of her own universe, take up the mantle of Spider-Woman, she falls in love with Peter Parker who never became Spider-Man, he went to Medical School, he's an ER Resident Physician.
Mary-Jane Watson has been OOC in this Zeb Wells run to the point she's been damaged in the eyes of fandom. She's no longer "Lois Lane of Marvel" but just a Fickle Cheater whose love has a time limit- 11 Months into her 4 year exile, she gave up on Peter Parker and hooked up with a Rando Nothing named Paul. IF this is the real MJ, she'll never be trusted again by fandom, this shit has to retconned or MJ/Jackpot is an Imposter this whole time to save her character. Paul Rabin just doesn't get a free pass and goes on with his life. MJ and Paul mess can't be written off as a couple breaking up, no harm, no foul.
I don't want mind-control, that reeks too much of the infamous Avenger 200, I'd go with Imposter who was split off from the Real Mary-Jane at time of transport, the Real Mary Jane is in Dimensional Cocoon, safe in suspended animation, she's not 4 years older, she's never met Paul, never played house with him and fake kids for 3+ Years, never dumped Peter after her rescue and never became Jackpot. Spider-Man and Jackpot are in a desperate fight with whomever, Jackpot finally rolls 3 Skulls, she doesn't die but the Real Mary-Jane is instantly freed from her Cocoon. Paul sees this and is enraged, he screams at some unknown force (Mephisto): "No, you promised me Mary-Jane would be mine at last!" Paul turns to Jackpot "You're a fake like those 2 brats I created!" He runs to the real Mary-Jane and tells her he loves her, come with him, the Real Mary-Jane slaps him hard and tells him F*** Off, runs away from him to Spider-Man, Paul tries to grab her but Spider-Man shoves him away from her, Paul knows the jig is up, he takes out a hidden device and teleports away, possibly back to his world. The Real Mary-Jane and Peter Parker are reunited at last, embrace, kiss, with his Spider-Sense, Peter knows that this the Real Mary-Jane. Jackpot looks on, shocked, her bracelet is dead, no power, takes off her goggles, drops down to her knees in despair, she's totem, a fake this whole time, she's not and never was Mary-Jane Watson.
Additionally Jackpot may recieve as a result the Riku Replica treatment in regards of losing herself in her jealousy so much that she'd try to murder the real deal for the sake of being... well the real MJ............ unsuccesfully
Miles is way too good right now. Please keep Gwen away from him, I agree.
Gwen and Silk need a duo series. One where they get Gwen back to her home world and when she reappears there - we see things are abit different. Some actual villains there, and some actual need for her. Maybe a mystery with a new Lizard and the book works on finding out who this new Lizard is and if Peter is involved someway. Seeing how important it is, Silk would want to help Gwen with this. Get a sisterly bond going with the two.
Jessica Drew book would be her still working with the Avengers with Carol as a main role and maybe Anya as her protege. Have them do some off world adventures with Carol so they're not all just based in New York.
I think Ben needs a Kaine series and im glad they're getting it. Kaine will fix Ben I truly believe, and return him to his Scarlet Spider route. Then crazy enough, I'd have Ben working closely with Madelyn going forward to reign in some Limbo escapees that are terrorizing certain parts of the world. It'll give him purpose and also his own weird rogues to deal with.
Peter honestly needs time away, like maybe even away from New York and teaming up with Mockingbird or some of his older allies. Let him start to rebuild some solid character growth and show how much of a leader and reliable he can be. I want him to come back to NY as better man, back with MJ, working on a future. Cause honestly the end goal should be he has Mayday and Uncle Miles shows her the ropes while Peter is doing larger things such as leading his own company to better NY not just from a Hero stance but by its infrastructure like when he was leading Parker Industries. Maybe rehabilitating some of his old villains to work with him. Would open the door for new Villains he'll have to deal with - same with Miles.
MJ and Blackcat book is fine if you rip out the Jackpot part of it. These two are so good together that I like their chemistry. Have them go into business with each other in a Mini-series.
MJ She shouldn't come back. Give Peter an adequate and not spoiled love interest.
@@Spider-Cat1605 agreed
@@Spider-Cat1605true, you can't force Peter to get back into relationship with MJ after all that happened
@@Spider-Cat1605 I’m down for that too. Honestly they need to do something to explain why she’s been acting the way she is or it wouldn’t work. MJ from the Kraven’s Last Hunt era was a great supportive character for Peter. With her own Miniseries she can go back to that with a good writer
I actuelly never read a spiderman comic in my life, i grew up with the character through the Sam raimi spiderman trilogy, the spectacular spiderman, spiderman 2 pc game,spiderman the new animated series
Unfortunately, no matter what good ideas anyone comes up with, there’s still the biggest threat to mainline Spider-Man that writers would need to deal with: Marvel Editorial. Or at least Nick Lowe.
They are the biggest obstacles to Peter Parker Spider-Man making any true progress as a character and getting good canon stories overall. Once they’re out of the way, and replaced with better editors, then we can seriously entertain the notion of Peter getting great in-continuity stories again.
You should check out shadow of the green goblin by jm dematteis, issue 3 comes out this week, really good so far
It a good idea
2 questions
1. If Mysterio or Mephisto do reverse one more day 3:47/3:49 wouldn’t that mean the events in Civil War will also get reversed ?
2. How would you feel if Ben Riley goes back to his Sensational Spider-Man suit ?
He doesn’t reverse anything in my scenario, one more day still happens.
And yeah, he would
Here’s my idea ,
No more bs breakups between Peter and Mj , let them be happen and have the life they deserve. And the same goes with Ben Reilly and Jannie , and have him or either miles , or both be the next generations of spider-man , and also slowly introduce other spider characters.
And have Peter bad Mj have Annie and mayday return , and let them be a family
Damn right
why have ben end up with Janine tho? she hasnt been his love interest for a long time now and she's also a villain now so............
What id do to get back mj and peter is reveal nightmare messed with peters head and it was all a nightmare and strange saves him and realizes hes still married and the new arc could be peter thinking mj deserves better but at the end realizes they are right for each other. You cant put mj and peter back together when she has kids. Youll make him look bad
Hey Lewis I have a question, would you ever review Slightly Insulting's Friend or Foe Spider-Man trilogy?
Bring JMS, JMD, ahmed to write em.
Fire nick lowe tbh.
He is ruining it for past decade.
Here's a fun question Do you think spider man should stop being a hero at this point Because being a hero Has Gotten him nothing
I honestly think it's time for Spider-Man To take revenge on everyone that's wrong
( People can go Call it his villain ark Which is fine with me 😊 Because I know for a fact when he's not a hero His life is so much better And that's probably When he will get with black cat )
Honestly I don’t mind if Peter stop being a hero, because he went through a lot of trouble to safe people. And he got the short end of the stick. But during the run, black cat left Spider-Man because their relationship was stable. Like what, that part doesn’t make sense?
@kevinkeenan-2.1 It doesn't make sense There's no real world basis for it That was pacifically the writer Wanting it gone
Which I believe Is eventually going to get forgotten😅 And end up to gather like nothing happened And if you think about it in a comic book timeline They may have been only dating for a few days or weeks 😂
I think at this point even Mephisto It's starting to feel bad for him 🤣 He probably going Offer peter A deal (but with the only Condition being stop being a hero and leave this place Leave New York City, leave America, just stop being a hero) To fix and Given his best life If he agrees to his condition
Mephisto Peter, you should really consider my offer Because this is something i've never done and offered anyone before Your life is so bad you made me Feel sorry for you
Peter That's what happens when you're me
Mephisto And that's why you should take my offer boy I don't even want your soul I just want you to stop doing this to yourself
If MJ finally return to Peter Parker after Aunt May passed away, then how about Paul? LOL....😂
Ik your a Spider-Man channel but do you reckon you’ll ever talk about other superhero’s namely daredevil cuz I’d like to hear your take on them
The Only things that i would change would be that Ben Reilly developes a Close friendship with the x-men and then he eventually joins the team and starts dating x-23, the second thing that i would change is that peter wouldnt get back together with mj Immediatly instead peter would of moved on from her and started dating Silk and Mj would have to earn back Peter's trust.
I think at this point even Mephisto It's starting to feel bad for him 🤣 He probably Offer peter A deal (but with the only Condition being stop being a hero and leave this place Leave New York City, leave America, just stop being a hero) To fix and Given his best life If he agrees to his condition
Mephisto Peter, you should really consider my offer Because this is something i've never done and offered anyone before Your life is so bad you made me Feel sorry for you
Peter That's what happens when you're me
Mephisto And that's why you should take my offer boy I don't even want your soul I just want you to stop doing this to yourself
How would you structure Sony's Spiderman cinematic universe?
0:04 and spectacular spider-men
“We all the Spider-Man comics are trash except for Ultimate Spider-Man” What about Spectacular Spider-Men and Spider-Man Shadow Of The Green Goblin?
I don’t know if mysterio can grant wishes
Forgot spider-Gwen was in 616 lol if they don’t know what to do with her just give her break
For me, i feel like Miles needs to grow up. Like grow into collage and get a job maybe. Let him be a mentor for once, make a new Spider-man but totally different from both Peter and Miles. MakeMiles the mentor, give him a Girlfriend which will stick for the long run. Make new and improved enemies for Miles insted of aticking with the classic Spuder-man villians and giving them legacy villians. Maybe some will work but not all of them. Make the Nes spider-man different. Like giving him an introverted peraonality so he oftens work or hang out alone. Also, better to give him newer problems insted of the poor boy act we got already. Maybe make him rich, but he isolates himself because of his introverted peraonaliy and lack of friends. It would change the typical prro boy strugles and give him new strugles to overcome.
I don’t think the current villains are overused
Not all of them are trash. Refusing the slander of Spectacular Spider-Men or Shadow of the Green Goblin
Spectacular Spider-Men is great
@@LewisFilmsProductions You read shadow of the Green Goblin? Personally love it feels like a return to classic Spidey
Or they could lean into the fact that Paul and mj don’t have anything in common without the kids they could say that Paul wants to settle down and have another family but Mary Jane is still suffering from the trauma of finding out that her kids were fake and then watching then disappear they could reset the friendship with black cat by saying that during there solo run that cctv cameras cought black cat working with jackpot souring public opinion of her while black cats standing in the criminal underworld has suffered do to her and her girlfriend stealing from the owl and for working with a new superhero so in order to regain her criminal reputation black cat leaves New York for a while to build back up her criminal contacts meanwhile in the spiderman run we see the return of Carly cooper Spider-Man’s cop ex girlfriend where she returns to New York to go under cover to take down the power broker (a marvel villain that sells super tech on the black market we see Carly and Peter slowly start to rekindle there relationship now that he’s not having to lie to her about his secret identity the reason she dumped him meanwhile Paul and Mary Jane are arguing about her late nights of superheroics putting a strain on there relationship Paul wants to leave New York and settle down somewhere where as Mary Jane dosent want to leave New York due to her friends and family being there and how she’s actively ignoring her feelings on there relationship leading to them having a fight and her storming out her best friend black cat being out of New York thinking it’s a bad idea but not having anybody els to talk to it about she goes to her ex boyfriend Peter but as she gets to peters apartment she sees Carly cooper walking out after running into Mary Jane she actually thinks it’s perfect timing as she needs mj and Peter to go undercover to a charity event that’s a front for smuggling super tech at first Mary Jane asks for a few days to think it over and in the meantime she gets into a fight with the rino in this fight her bracelet is damaged and when she asks Paul to fix it he actually refuses to stating that she’s bin neglecting him this causes another argument and she storms out accepting the mission from Carly on the mission she and Peter start to banter and quip showing that there is still a spark between them after the mission mj comes home to find out about the mission and they argue and Paul gives Mary Jane and ultimatum he has two tickets leaving New York and he’s leaving with or without her meanwhile Carly and Peter or out getting coffee and Carly tells Peter that a relationship between them isn’t plausible considering now that her mission is done she’ll be leaving New York and her and Peter leave things on good terms cut to a couple of hours later we see Mary Jane at peters door in tears stating that Paul left her and she sobs in peters arms meanwhile we see Paul and Carly on the same train leaving New York sitting next to each other setting up some romance drama for sometime in the future
Make Paul a villain
Remove the mj storyline and you might have an awesome mini series.
RETCON TIME!!!
3:02 so basically ben 10? Or gwen 10 i guess
I just want Peter and Cindy to date each other and have a child. Before that get rid of Paul and make MJ regret everything she did to Peter. Then make a story where Peter has moved on and rejected the offer to get back into a relationship with MJ because he already loves silk and has a responsibility towards silk.
I've always hated MJ because she doesn't fit into Peter's life where he has to have two identities as Peter and Spider-Man, she's just a replacement for Gwen.
I think if you want to make MJ and Peter come back, MJ must still have superpowers because otherwise they will definitely fight like what happened in issue 602-605 where MJ felt she was like a cop's wife but worse, because MJ thinks that the cop had another wife to talk to
So if Peter wants to have a girlfriend, she should at least have superpowers that can help him in his heroic activities. We can't force Spider-Man to have a relationship like Superman and Lois.
@@teofilus865 he should FINALLY start dating Kittty Pryde its been long overdue and she would also be really good for peter and to all the people saying that they've barely interacted Kitty Pryde and Star-Lord have never interacted prior to 2014 and they met in "The Trial of Jean Grey." and she even joined the guardians and they were even going to get married but kitty called it off but there's no reason to think that the same couldnt happen to Peter
Wait Spider Gwen has been on earth 616 this whole time?! What happened to earth 65A? This is coming from a casual Spider-Man who's only read a handful of comics if your wondering
Jesus, just do the New 52/Rebirth Superman thing...
Or that
Their are so many great and talent writers that make Spider-Man to be successful, but Marvel keeps hiring cheap and non-talent writers that actively hates fans and the characters and Marvel is just allowing them to do that to Spidey and sells keep dropping
Am I the only one that think Jack Pot’s suit looks ass
It looks okay, just very generic tho
I'm honestly just so sick of 616. All the shit that's happened in this universe has made me dropped comics entirely. Just reboot.
Remove MJ and Paul. Marry Peter to Felicia or another heroine, let him develop and become a rich genius again. Create new villains to replace the classic ones (Norman and Otto should have died long ago). Let Miles become a street-level hero and Peter lead a group of higher-level heroes. Maybe even the Avengers.
"Let Peter become a rich genius again."
And that's how you make Peter Parker unrelatable.
@@devanbarrios9216 The eternal beggar schoolboy, yes, yes. The holy status quo.
@@Spider-Cat1605 Iron Boy Jr isn't exactly a great idea either
I like most of the ideas here, but you can’t have aunt May die to Mysterio. I’d personally prefer old age over a (In my opinion) Spider-Man B Lister killing her off. Put some respect on the old woman’s name. Still love the vid though.
Thanks! And yeah maybe.. I mean as long as it’s meaningful and makes sense for the story I don’t see any issue with it. But yeah I mean as long as she is killed off, it’s okay
Think they should give Peter an other girlfriend before MJ comes back with seeing that she still have feelings for him, Peter seeing that MJ is the one but has some trust issues after Paul ?, sometime after Aunt Mays Death they getting back together with him asking if she really wants that (dangerous live) and she saying yes
Think recreating or update or change/comebine some old obscure villains would be cool.
Like a new Biotrasformed Rhino (Old one gets pice)
Some joke villains who is Peter having fun with
Camelion is back (who is the faker story, not killing the real one just replacing him for a job)
New Crimemaster (compentent, Zylinder, always 3 step before Spidy and compared for all outcomes, sells his talents for heist planning)
Shoker beeing the Head of the magia and not a joke
Want to see a story about the inmates from Mjs Aunt or about the low level villains with the bar with no name
Actually would give some old villains a good rest or changing them with aa newer version or let them be in activ
I wouldve brought back flash and have be the one that gets peter out of his funk
send this to marvel please
It’s too late for Peter X MJ. They should do something new,maybe have him date silver sable or one of the other female superheroes
Well the best way to fix it is for fans to stop buying them.
True lmao
also just because Spider-Gwen is named Gwen Stacy doesnt mean she's 616 Gwen their personalities are SO much different then eachother that Spider-Gwen is just a completely different person then her and i doubt Peter would date her or that she would even date him
Not to mention the age difference if you know what i mean
@@onglanh5329 isnt spider-gwen in her early 20s and peter is like in his late 20s to early 30s?
@@T3aseW1thease yeah, he is too young for Peter and too old for Miles
@@onglanh5329 not really i mean there are plenty of women in their early 20s dating guys in their late to early 30s so i dont really see a problem with i and isnt she only like 3-5 years older than miles? cuz i also dont really see a problem with that either if miles is an adult
You really think theyd be smart enough to do this 😭😭😭
Please
Bro you kind of look like Jake Paul with the hat and the facial air.
That said, not sure regressing Peter's character is the best idea.
Oh no please, I’m shaving it immediately lmao. And this isn’t regression? This is progression - him learning from his mistakes.
@@LewisFilmsProductions If you could actually point to a mistake Peter has made this arc then that would be one thing. But he actually did not do anything wrong. The only reason Osborn might get the upper hand here is because of the Spider-Man who gobbles which is more of Kraven's fault then anything else.
This doesn't fix the MJ thing at all. You cannot salvage the Paul relationship. You cannot just get rid of him. And this is why people bring in Mephisto and erasing the run entirely.
The Mary Jane who left Peter for Paul is a Mary Jane that does not love Peter. He is decidedly not her "one", because she was willing to leave him fro someone else. Her having an affair with Paul where isolated would be bad enough, it would show that her love is weak and unable to sustain her faith in Peter for even a year. Now Peter has a timer on him. Get trapped for too long? Go to jail? spend a year in a war in space? MJ is going to leave his ass. How can this be his true love if her love is that weak? But the killer blow is that once her weak faith was proven wrong, she still chose to stay with Paul. For "years" if we believe this book's timeline. That's not a woman who you can ever trust or believe again. You've just turned Peter into a pathetic simp. He would forever be the Spider-cuck if he took back MJ after she just left him for another man. Because that means she's not committed nor does she really care or love Peter.(given the nonchalant way she left him). An MJ that started and left Peter for Paul is never a viable love interest again. It makes Peter and JAG and MJ a THOT, and it's all grossly out of character. Two wrongs DO make a right when the original wrong is both so destructive and so disrespectful to the characters involved that it ruins both the past (every time she said "I love you" is now a cruel lie) and the future (you can never believe her ever again). THere can be no willing Paul relationship. The Pitchforks are staying firmly raised.
Also, Mysterio being a major figure doesn't make any sense given the way his relationship with Peter and MJ developed during the Spencer run. He doesn't really make sense as a vaillain at all, frankly,, so doubling down on that is just furthering this run's sins.
Completely disagree. As a writer my first instinct would never to be doubling down on horrible decisions. We have to work with what we're given, and making Paul a good character I believe is the best way to go, slowly but surely reversing things back to the way that they were. Also your point about Peter being a "simp" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Peter has been with many other people since dating MJ, wouldn't same apply for her?
I get your passion for wanting to just completely undo this run, and we do stand togehter on that, but I couldn't just completely disregard everything. Every writer knows the "oh it was just a dream" ending is one of the worst things you could do, and I wasn't willing to take that easy way out.
@@LewisFilmsProductions The same doesn't apply because how the situations arose are not the same. In the past they've broken up and there has been a reason, however poorly written and contrived, that they could not be together. Whether that was MJ's fear of commitment,, Peter's belief she was shallow and uncaring, or her BS fear of Spider-Man antics. And, in every case past the first one in the Romita era, they made it clear that there were feelings but there was some dealbreaker. No break up ever occured here. This is not them dating other people after deciding they couldn't be together,, while tiresome and contrived that would be, it would be salvagable. This is them being together and then her deciding she would rather be with someone else. It's an active choice to be unfaithful and abandon one person purely for another person. There is not and never was any obstacle to her being with Peter. Even her lack of faithfulness during their forced separation, which could have been an obstacle for him, was basically ignored. And if there is no obstacle, then what she's telling us is that she loves Paul more than Peter, and PEter just isn't that special to her.
In short, her ACTIONS tell us that Peter is not the man she loves most of all, and if he's not her number 1 he would be a fool to take her back when her actions show us she's always on the look out for the next Paul. And ALL of this is grossly out of character. "it was all a dream" isnt' the worst thing you can do. THIS STORY is the worst thing you can do, because its a total betrayal of who she is and what she always wanted and completely ruins her from further use. There is no romance story where one party unilaterally decided to leave the other for years for no reason other than preference. That said, there are other ways to undo it, fakes and mind control and the like, but it has to be undone. Paul doesn't matter. You can make him the most interesting moral upstanding person in the world, the damage is the same. We're not ever going to say "oh, well it's ok if she left Peter for this guy because he's great". That doesn't help anything. If she's willing to leave him, she isn't committed, she doesn't love him, and that's why he should never take back anyone who was willing to do that to him.
After hearing you explain this, you are giving me the there is no hope ye mortal..no light in the darkness.
There is only pain and suffering, and the never ending torment.
( Marvel have never payed much attention to what Spider-man fans want )
So unless you send your idea to marvel editorial and they accepted your salvation.
I will stay in my little pit of despair and hope marvel is in such financial trouble they feel they need to fire on all cilinders and give us back what we the fans so want and that is Peter and MJ 's marriage back.
😂 .. 😢
It was a good solution, but...ya Marvel....
Yeah this will never happen XD
Hello, I'm Thai, so this is Google translate. If there are any mistakes, I apologize.
In my opinion, I agree with everything except the spider-gwen thing. I'd like to give it a try.
As for Spider Man/Peter Parker, why didn't Peter become a single father?
I don't know that in the OMD event it was erased that Peter and MJ's marriage never happened. Or did everyone just forget that it ever happened and was replaced with new memories? (If anyone knows this, please help me.)
But what if everyone just forgets that it ever happened? The story goes like this: Peter will remember all of the events of OMD., including what happened to his daughter May, which we can assume that Mephisto may have been behind. We don't know what really happened to her. Besides Scorpion's words that Norman had killed the baby.
Perhaps some of the Hell Lords knew Mephisto's fear of the baby and came to his aid. and hid her (certainly not out of kindness), but in the end Peter knew the truth and went to save her.
In fact, there are more details than this, but I'm afraid there are too many (I'm just too lazy to type😓😓).
1:34 comics shouldn’t be made just to be adapted into movies
obviously. just an example
MJ is dead to me
Their are so many great and talent writers that make Spider-Man to be successful, but Marvel keeps hiring cheap and non-talent writers that actively hates fans and the characters and Marvel is just allowing them to do that to Spidey and sells keep dropping
The problems are not the writers but the editorial. No matters how many great ideas the writers have, the editorial still have the final say. Zeb Wells did a terrible job with this run but believe it or not, his past works show that he is a competent writer. He wrote many good Spider-man story before.
@@onglanh5329 Yes your right. The editorial allowing all this nonsense instead of doing their jobs.