Batman 1989 Commentary
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
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I was 7 years old when this was released and I remember the “Batmania”. My mum helped me make a scrapbook of Batman articles and magazine pictures. I remember watching it over and on VHS when it came out. Batman ‘89 is my “Star Wars”.
Same here.
I had the toy Batmobile, Batwing, Batman, Joker, and Bob the Goon figures years a few years before I saw the movie when it premiered on the BBC.
I had the toy Batmobile, Batwing, Batman, Joker, and Bob the Goon figures years a few years before I saw the movie when it premiered on the BBC.
As a 40 year old, this has always been 'my Batman'. Just like people of certain generations will pick which James Bond is 'their' James Bond.
You also have to remember, aside from Superman? This was IT. There was no other superhero films. This WAS the dark, gritty superhero universe.
It doesn't matter that you're 40 in this case. "Your Batman" also happens to be THEE Batman.
The hype for this was unbelievable back in the day, the logo was on EVERYTHING that summer.
I even remember the little '89 Batman caramel chocolate bars (Similar to the freddo bars).
Duncan is absolutely spot on when he says Batman looks his best, when he emerges from the Batplane, all bloodied and bruised - the suit looks amazing, an is lit just right.
Never rub another man's rhubarb. HAHAHAHAHA
Imagine Joker possible Tim Curry saying that.
Boys, your timing is impeccable, was bored af, cheers lads
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@@neillharte wow,,, must have been looking for vacs,,,not hacks
Again???????
Batman holds a special place in my heart. I love the atmosphere, gothic architecture, film noir lighting, smoky cinematography (but not like Superman: The Movie), Danny Elfman soundtrack and the black suit is all classic.
What does bug me is mostly the marketing and hype that surrounded the film, being a huge franchise and selling merch seemed to be the only thing Hollywood remembered it for, and nowhere is that more apparent than in the documentary included in the Blu-ray:
THE BIRTH OF THE MODERN BLOCKBUSTER - Discover how the film’s phenomenal marketing, extensive merchandising and franchise foresight set the template for the next 25 years of tentpole pictures.
I just revisited your batman forever commentary earlier today! I'll hit play on this one in the morning. I like to listen to them during my morning routine : ) Thanks
Gentlemen, let's broaden our minds, Lawrence?. *'Partyman by Prince' starts playing*
The young actor who played young jack napier looks more like the joker than nicholson.
That's Hugo Blick, who went on to be a successful and highly respected screenwriter: Marion And Geoff, Up In Town, Sensitive Skin, The Shadow Line, The Honorable Woman, Black Earth Rising.
Yeah his face shape is amazing. Looks just like Brian Bollard's Joker.
I had the toy Batmobile, Batwing, Batman, Joker, and Bob the Goon figures a few years before I saw the movie when it premiered on the BBC.
Still may favourite Batman movie, nay, my favourite comic book movie!
HAHAHA The image of Batman getting Vicki Vale in a choke hold to make her fall a sleep has made me cry laughing.
I’ve always loved this movie and still do. I can’t believe how much it gets slated these days. I was 9 when this came out so I probably view it through rose tinted spectacles. Love the Prince soundtrack as well. Gentlemen, let’s broaden our minds. Laurence.
Still my favourite solo live action Batman film
Richard could make a cool lex luthor and duncan a good bruce wayne/batman.
And Ian Mckellen as Alfred
@@kieranhealy8279 And Alfred is also a secret Terminator.
I see this as a 1930s batman era since this batman kills like the sam raimi spiderman trilogy in the 60s and that's what I like about these 2 franchises. I can see why you guys don't like this film but you can say the same for the raimi spiderman they have their flaws and charm. Sorry for my bad english.
-Note that it is *not* believed that moths try to fly *to* the Moon, but that they recon their direction relative to the Moon. For example, if you keep the Moon to your left, you can assure you are going in the same direction in the dark.
With these commentaries I just listen. I've seen the movies enough to visualize them as you guys talk. Works out well
My favourite Batman, Keaton is perfect. I liked The Dark Knight but Bale is shouty, it is Heath Ledger that makes that film. I decided to review this and nice commentary 😊
Anarchy kills Bruce's parents in Joker cause we always need to see Bruce's parents being killed.
Always guaranteed views and likes for this one. Good choice lads, I'm a listenin'!
Richard's favorite film.
I found an interesting article online some years ago. It was with Tom Manckiweiz (misspelled) who did Superman 1 and 2 with Donner. He wrote a script for a Batman film with Warner Bros. He had written Penguin into the script with Peter O'Toole in mind for the part. He was to be more of a gangster than a short penguin looking person with an umbrella. I think Joker was also written in the script. It had Gordon in it and was very much like Superman the movie in terms of scope but he was very clear that he couldn't write it in the same way . He understood then about keeping Batman in the shadows and less humourous as Superman. I think it would've been set in the same universe.
This film was still massive when I was growing up in the early 2000's as it and Returns were the only 'serious' live action Batman films when by now there are several. I watched 89 again recently and it didn't hold up that well although I still think it's better than returns [mainly as 89 is a rare Batman film with only one villain] but I enjoy Nolan's take a lot more than Burton's as I've got older.
Speaking of Jon Peters, check out the opening of his Wikipedia entry: "John H. Peters is an American film producer and former hairdresser. He's known for his executive decisions on Wild Wild West to have been the main driver of the film's commercial and creative failures. Peters was banned from the set of Man of Steel (film) by Christopher Nolan. Peters was determined, by the Producers Guild of America, to not be eligible for producer credits on A Star Is Born (2018 film), despite claims by Peters. Peter's has also been involved in numerous Sexual harassment incidents, with Jezebel recording at least five known suits against him.".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Peters
its an important movie, but its a tim burton Movie with batman in it. I always thought "forever" was the best one out of the "Burton quadrilogy"
Someone below will say, this is the best Batman movie........they are wrong. But I guess it does have its moments, and the s ofe and production design are all great, and I loved it the summer it came out. Edit, that's not Bob Kane who does the sketch, it's just an actor. Jack Napier = Jackanapes. If you imagine that this film is all a nightmare experienced by Christian Bale's Batman induced by Scarecrows fear gas (exaggerated gangsters and Gotham City etc) it works a lot better.
Most people that love rhis film are because it was part of their childhood , i grew up with the nolan films and tas and when i finally watched it i thought it was alright
I don't think I said it was, pretty sure I was referring to the sketch.
-R
@Val Verde Broadcasting fair enough! Liking the more mellow Richard, I was the same when I was younger foaming at the mouth about things I didnt like or movies that got stuff wrong, it all changed when I hit my forties.
@@RighteousBrother Not just an actor, that's Denis Lill (Rodney's Father-In-Law in Only Fools And Horses, and the sublime lift attendant in the classic Bernard And The Genie).
@@davidjames579 wow, I did not know that!
I remember coming out of the cinema after having seen this, and feeling "Hmm, that was a bit wank."
Speaking of Michael Douglas, I watched Behind the Candelabra the other day and I thought it would make for a plausible, if tremendously goofy, Joker origin story. Just imagine this as Joker's monologue from The Dark Knight:
"You look nervous, is it the scars? You wanna know how I got 'em. So, I had a significant other, beautiful like you, who tells me I worry too much, who says I oughta smile more. But he was a big shot piano player who was afraid of aging and got in deep with the plastic surgery sharks. They de-aged his face. He had more money for surgeries and wanted me to have it done. He was so upset when I didn't want to. But ... I just wanted to see him smile again, I just wanted him to know that I didn't care if I had to get horrendous amounts of plastic surgery just to make him happy. So I got it done and got hooked on painkillers. And you know what, he can't stand the sight of me. He casts me out, like a leper. But now I see the funny side, now I'm always smiling ... And where else do ya think I got these suits. You oughta know, Liberace bought 'em."
I know I'm in the minority, but Superman in Superman 2 came off as more of a psycho when killing the now powerless Zod in cold blood, first crushing his hand, then throwing him down the cliff (Donner cut "fix" came much later, so I don't count that), all done with a wink and a smile. Chris Reeve sells it well, but still. Not to mention everyone screaming against Clark impaling the truck in MOS, but conveniently forgetting II when he's going back to the truck-stop diner for petty payback, once again vs a powerless guy who first beat him fair and square.
Exactly, plus impaling the truck is an act of frustration after decades of walking around with unstoppable power while there's evils and tragedies all around.
Although, it wasn't exactly fair and square in Superman II, that trucker fought as dirty as he could.
The line "WHERE DOES HE GET THOSE WONDERFUL TOYS?" is always cut off in this movie. Has always bugged me.
I still have a strong fondness for this movie but it is mostly rose tinted, it's definitely not the best Batman movie. Watching it again recently it was not as good an experience as watching for the first time in 89 that's for sure. However besides it's flaws I still prefer this to Returns which seems to surprise a lot of people. I've never liked Returns, even when it first came out I didn't like it, apart from Pfieffer's Catwomen, I really dislike that movie. I would love you guys to do a commentary on Returns to hear your views on it.
Ace vid. Enjoyed. Would love to see Duncan coersed to watch the best Star Trek trilogy! (2,3,4)Guaranteed enjoyment, surely! Ha.
To quote Jean Luc Picard: "Make it so."
I love this film; it switches between this and Batman Begins as my favorite Batman movie. The Napier Joker is actually my personal favorite; I love how the monster is simmering beneath this vain, pretty boy gangster. He’s being held down by some old school Mob decorum, but when he hits the chemicals he finally sets himself free. You can even see the touches of that Joker madness behind the young Napier’s (fucking terrifying) eyes. I’m not quite sure where Duncan is getting the Grissom-copying from - outside of Joker mocking his speech patterns with the “number one guy” line, I don’t see it. I chock it up to Nicholson and Palance just having similar mannerisms to begin with. I also don’t subscribe to the notion that Nicholson is just being Nicholson. This is a level we had never seen from him outside of Jack Torrance. The bigness and majesty of the movie always hooks me. It feels out of time and gothic. I also never saw this as a revenge mission. Batman was going after the Joker well before he realized who he was; and while I prefer the Waynes death to be a result of chaotic evil, I do love the idea of Batman and Joker being tethered together by fate. In every universe. I also consider the Waynes death scene in this to be the most visually striking and haunting portrayal. It comes off as a distant dark memory that plays out in a muffled, cold nightmare in Bruce’s head. Overall I think the film is great.
Please review Harley Quinn:Birds of Prey !!
Batman Vs Ballman.
Tim was 30 years old so young.
Batman Returns is still the best Batman film.
Batman Begins, Dark Knight and majority or the DCAU, including the animated series were in my opinion the best adaptation of the come book vigilante.
Burton’s version always had that dated look to it, & out of step with the Batman comics that were being published at the time.
I did prefer Batman & Robin over the Burton films, as I saw it as a homage to the 1960s version.
Jackson!.... Think about the future!
I don't know if you've seen it, Richard and Duncan, but there was a trailer released for a Jackie Chan and Arnold Schwarzenegger movie called The Iron Mask. It looks different.....
I have seen it and it fucking weird. One thing is for sure, it DEFINITELY isn't a tax scam!
-R
@@ValVerdeBroadcasting Hey now, Rich, it probably cost $100 million+ for those special effects😉
The cast includes Charles Dance, Rutger Hauer and Christopher Fairbank (Moxey from Auf Wiedersehen Pet). Fairbank is the guy on the rooftop that you were trying to remember in the commentary.
@@neilhutchinson4545 Tax? I heard the VAT got him.
@@davidjames579 It could be a bit taxing to watch it, but vat's a risk I'm willing to take.
@@neilhutchinson4545 There's more to Ireland than VAT
Vendela Kirsebom also was in Batman & Robin her role got severely cut since she is a shit actress
How come u dont do any more commentaries sorry if i spelled that wrong with oliver harper anymore they were so funny
We parted ways a couple of years ago, there were some creative differences. There are plenty of new commentaries here though, hope you enjoy them!
-R
@@ValVerdeBroadcasting ohhh thats a shame cause u were the best bits about those commentaries i laughed so hard at some of the jokes u said
@@danielhuckle4444 Hahaha! Well, you have a lot of catching up to do, hopefully you'll enjoy the new ones just as much!
-R
@@ValVerdeBroadcasting yhh u can gurantee it
My choice for a new bond: James Macavoy
fuch off ,,,bandy legged dwarf
It WAS the best batman film. Then Begins came out, and it immediately seemed quaint and un-batmanny
Also, it bugs me that no one knows who Bruce Wayne is.
@@l.thomascater5580 Journalist goes to Bruce Wayne's party and doesn't know what he looks like. Knox You're Fired!
To me Mask of the Phantasm was always better than 89. MOTP was the best until Dark Knight
Did VVB already do this or did I dream that?
We did a commentary on Batman Forever and an episode of IAB, otherwise I'm afraid it was a wonderful dream!
R
@@ValVerdeBroadcasting My brain is mush for reasons I won't bore you with. This explains the confusion. Thanks for the reply.
You might be thinking of the one they did with Oliver Harper