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Is this dangerous - or am I overreacting? I've recently had a big issue with some of the content that @steveioe , a huge TikTok creator, makes presenting himself as a medical professional when he is a comedian. What do you think?
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The way this was put forward as "Let's put warnings" rather than "Cancel him" is really helpful. A way we can give people a voice without as much power.
I think it's less about power and more about context before viewing.
@@tracythomas4700 I mean power to scare, to be taken seriously, etc
@@Bella-wb3yw Fair enough.
I also deeply appreciate her effort in seeing both sides of the situation.
I love whe people take a controversial issue and speak about it in a way that invites change on both/all sides
I absolutely love the way she presented this and she’s so well spoken. This isn’t being a Karen, it’s genuine constructive criticism and it leaves the ball in our court as the viewers to decide what to do with this information.
The fact that there's no disclaimer as "this is just a joke" or "I'm not a licensed professional" needs to be added. If someone who outwardly says they are a comedian makes dark jokes I mostly laugh with them, even when it's stuff I've gone through. Their intention is to make light of something dark. However, when someone starts making fun of something dark and suggesting you should just "get over it" that's when it becomes harmful
There is a disclaimer it’s in his bio
Yeah that's the difference between satire and being hateful.
if you need a disclaimer when you are on tic tok.... well... you may need help outside of tic tok
That is what's called "gallows humor" and for people working in the ER, they need a way to laugh at themselves. The ER is a rotation that a person there has to laugh to maintain themselves, because of they didn't, they would cry, or worse.
A rotation in another department, like in the Nursery, can help with stress.
That used to be what they did with Oncologists. Cancer was so devastating in the 1970's that most patients died. Half a century later, many more people with cancer survive and thrive while catching cancer at stage 1 or 2 instead of end - stage. And early - detection campaigns have helped people catch on to early diagnosis. So I don't know what happens now.
But I understand that rotations in the Nursery Department were therapeutic.
But as an ER Tech, he was a licensed individual. Maybe the name throws people off, but ER Techs are the EMTs of the ER.
The difference between this guy and actual funny medical shorts is that this guy is punching down at the actual patients, not the broken system.
As someone who is chronicly ill and disabled I'm so glad you made this video.
Glaucomflecken has great videos on thos subjects! He's funny and a licensed medical professional
That's what has especially stuck out to me. It's like he's pointing out the problems with the system and then somehow making it the patient's fault
As a retired psychiatric nurse, this made steam come out my ears. I’ve never seen these particular videos by him. You are correct. It’s harmful. It’s inappropriate. And it’s not funny.
100% with you on this. When I saw that one about suicide/self harm I was so upset. I spent some time in his comment section after that responding to others’ comments about not wanting to go in when it’s like that. I have personally been through the ER from my own suicide attempts, so I feel it’s so important to understand that acting like that will definitely drive some people who are dealing with that away from the hospital or reaching out for help. Still so frustrated over that video.
Thank you for making this video.
Totally agree! I was in severe pain after birth that I couldn’t sit or hardly move. The ER ob told me nothing was wrong with me and asked my husband if I was just an “anxious girl” because my chart says I have anxiety. Turns out I had an abscess that he missed and he sent me home. I almost got sepsis because he blew off my pain and I could have died just a week after having my baby!!!! Take patients seriously, treat them with respect, and learn how to be professional and see that, although you do this everyday, these are human beings who are having probably one of the worst days of their life and treat them with compassion!
This is probably sexism too, people think woman are too sensitive
@@zorubark Yes, it's even been proven in studies that doctors don't take women's pain as seriously. They are more quick to assume women are just being dramatic or too sensitive.
@@zorubark yes, I completely agree! It’s so infuriating! That’s a huge part of why I have started to choose female doctors primarily. I know all male doctors are not like this, but my experience with several of them has just not been great.
@@rachelr9352 Sadly its not just male doctors I have had the same problems with female doctors
@@karesdino8324 yeah I have to agree, it definitely isn’t just male doctors. I’ve had female doctors not take me seriously, it just seems more often male than female doctors. You’re definitely right though, and it is so frustrating.
Doctor Mike made a very good point about that part about not finding anything wrong. You know your body best and you are your own best advocate. If something is wrong, don’t back down and raise all the hell you need to in order to get the attention you think you deserve if you feel doctors are dismissing you
Dr. Mike is great. Wonderful to see the change you want to see in the medical system embodied in the younger doctors coming up in the world.
Overall Dr Mike is good but I do wish he'd educate himself on autism and non-harmful advice /information on it. In his The good Doctor review, he tried to advise parents to put their children in masking /social classes which most times just teaches autistic individuals how to look less autistic for other's comfort and at the detriment to the Autistic individual. While some things about social interactions are good/ helpful to learn, the burden of learning communication/social interaction should be on the people who are able to do that (Allistic/Neurotypical people) not on the autistic individuals who struggle with those things.
His video on self-harm caused me to not seek help when I was struggling. I thought he was a nurse, and if that was the way medical professionals treated people considering self-harm I would rather risk being alone with my thoughts. I'm glad that someone else saw what these videos can do to someone's mental state.
I hope you're ok.
Hugs 🫂 I am so so sorry. I hope you're doing okay ♡
I've told my therapist, GP, and someone on the suicide hotline about my thoughts and actions, they listened and were very understanding and they did not do any of that, they helped me in the ways i asked for and was receptive to. for anyone scared, there is nothing to be afraid of, professionals genuinely want to do their best to help you on your own terms, respecting your boundaries, if they do not, that's not okay.
disclaimer, i have never attempted un-aliving myself, but i have had thoughts. i am doing very well now and have not had any thoughts in weeks, in part thanks to the help my healthcare providers gave me.
@@kai_fatallysapphicI'm glad you're ok and please know. His videos are not aimed at someone like yourself. They're aimed at the workers who have had to deal with people coming in, claiming they're considering self harm and then complaining when they're actually taken seriously because they just thought it would help them get seen quicker (yes those people exist)
@@Ailieorz talking about people like me in this way makes our brains collapse in on ourselves with pathetic levels of self pity... i know everyone has to vent, especially people in this type of occupation, but talking about it like this and so publicly seems really un-empathetic and unprofessional, this topic is an extremely sensitive one
I love how respectful she was throughout the entire video. Never once did she personally attack him while explaining why she feels what he is doing is wrong
She belittled his position constantly. Yeah, he’s not a doctor, which he never stated he was. I hate doctors, they’re the ones that consistently misdiagnosed me and nearly killed me. On the other hand I have always liked and respected the nurses, M.A.’s and Tech’s that actually did 99.9% of my patient care.
@@williamreynolds6132 he's not even a tech though, he used to work as one and doesn't anymore for who knows many years and who knows how much experience he had to begin with and even if he in fact was one, it doesn't give him credit to spread information the way he does. It's obviously really easy for it to be a trigger to people online. Of course, if he made sure to tell that the main thing he wants to do is comedy, then that's one thing, but he talks as if he's giving information and a lot of it is his own view on things, which a lot of times is twisted af and really really derrogatory towards people that are in vulnerable situations.
@@williamreynolds6132 firstly, he is retired and secondly, i would be sued if i had retired as a lawyer's receptionist, created a tiktok, dressed as a lawyer, and made videos joking about laws and law cases. this is that situation.. tiktok NEEDS to put a label stating that he is not a professional nurse or doctor. believe it or not, there are people out there who think he is..in fact i was one of those people and only discovered that he isn't as soon as i saw this video.
@@gamershadow8 I'm discovering it just now. He was constantly in my shorts and I was even subscribed to him.
@@gamershadow8 "i didnt hear him the multiple times he said he was an ER tech, didnt hear him the multiple times he said he left the ER during the pandemic, AND didnt look at his profile/bio, because my assumptions are facts and if theyre wrong its someone elses fault somehow"
I was expecting the "We don't know what's wrong" to be about it being stressful trying to help a patient but having no answers. Was not expecting complaints about people not being pleased being told nothing's wrong. There may be people who end up going to the er when there's truly nothing serious, but there's also a lot of people with significant symptoms that don't simply go away where it takes a while to figure out the cause, if it's even found at all
Right like in my experience irl ER doctors only do the bare minimal tests required based on your presentation then send you home. I should know bc I have gone a lot and got dismissed a lot for problems that my actual doctors were pissed as fuck they didn't see with their extra technology available and didn't address. Like my cardiac problems for example that started at 21. It's really bad
And then the “joke” about how expensive it is. So degrading
As a Registered Nurse I absolutely agree with you. I’ve only been qualified as an RN for a year, and as a student and new grad I sought out nurses on RUclips to learn from them and he is someone I came across. The way he presents his videos absolutely made me think he is a nurse, but I was also thinking that many of his videos are incredibly harmful and at the expense of patients. In terms of the last video you addressed, my wife was suffering from extreme pain for months and had numerous visits to the ED. She was treated as if she was there just for the drugs and was often told that nothing was wrong. Spoiler alert: there was something wrong and it took months to be finally resolved via a medical procedure, and she hasn’t been back since (it’s been a year).
Maybe he’s correct in that he represents what really goes on in the ER? So mostly everyone is a jerk not just him?
@Sheila Boland I work in the ER as a tech and honestly I find him hilarious and most of it is spot on. Hahaha. He is a comedian, he isn't doing these really for educational.
He was literally a ER Tech, what are you saying idiot
@@sheilaboland6285it's comedy, meant for ER nurses and staff, not educational.
Lucky for her! Glad she’s okay
Thank you for this!! I've been annoyed at this guy's content for a while. The vibe that doctors are all-knowing gatekeepers of care, the condescension to patients who express vulnerability or feel that something's wrong, is dangerous given that so many people (especially women, and Black women) are disbelieved in the hospital for their pain. Also, his othering of patients who are mentally unstable just distances them from the care they deserve.
I first found his videos funny, but after I saw him say not to report a person passed out on the street “because they’re probably drunk”, I couldn’t support him. There was a story in the comments of that video about a diabetic who had similar symptoms to a drunk person and passed out. They would have died if nobody got help, and it just shows how irresponsible he is.
Yeah, and even if they are drunk, you don't know how drunk they are. Alcohol is really dangerous in high doses. Also, the chance of rape or other assault increases, so yeah... report anyone passed out on the street
My mum's husband had a stroke in the middle of the street, he was not taking cared of because they thought he was drunk.
He can't even walk right now.
I remember seeing that video and I was wondering why it felt uneasy to listen to that.
@@myby2888 i think the only super important thing not to do is call the cops. especially with alcoholics, who are often homeless where i live, they can end up getting harassed or arrested just because of their situation. keep cops away from potential medical emergencies.
Maybe death is just better than being diabetic all your life?
Yeahh, the one about "not having anything wrong" honestly just INCREASED my hesitancy to interact or trust medical professionals. I spent years having "nothing wrong with me" until a random doctor stumbled upon a heart condition that explained it all. I watched my father lose both his legs to an infection because his doctors told him "nothing was wrong". An ibuprofen can't fix this shit, and it honestly just makes me even more weary of medical professionals and that I'll be believed or respected.
I've been watching Steve's vids for a while. They make me laugh a bit b/c I WAS an ER nurse earlier in my career. But they also make me a little sad, b/c one of the things that led to me LEAVING emergency nursing for greener pastures was the psychic brutality evinced by both the ER professionals AND patients/families. The cadence & content of his speech remind me of the anger/sadness/pain underneath the surface of the docs/nurses/techs you and everyone here will visit in any ER. Steve's "crime" here is he's taking what's (usually) "backstage" and pulling back the curtain. I will say that every single thing he has said and acted out I have personally seen--more than once, and sometimes right in front of patients.
Exactly. You are SO right.
Yep. And part of me is also glad that the curtain is drawn. Because without that we can never start healing the stuff and a huge mental issues which are going on in the backstage. I am not professional. Just a patient. But an observant patient. My eyes were opened by a doctor who was behaving improper way towards me. Illusion was lifted.
true. and that’s exactly why Steve IOE retired - because he couldn’t stand the toxicity
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I doubt that’s why he retired. He comes off as a bully if I’m being honest.
@@IrisStellaGrace09 he retired at the height of a pandemic in a presumably understaffed ER. He is or was an ER tech, they make pennies. Techs dont get paid enough to be the backbone for a pandemic-ridden emergency room. Thousands of people retired. I even switched jobs. I think the toxicity and poor management of the hospital is why he left, with many others.
I'm so thankful my last ER visit didn't include someone with that attitude Steveioe had. They couldn't figure out what was wrong, but the doctor emphasized to me that its important I follow up with my PCP and they'll refer me to a specialist. I expressed what pain I was in, and noted I have bad anxiety and that I've ignored my issue for years because the last doctor who saw me for it said it will go away eventually and its been 5 years. I'm 24 and I shouldn't be in chronic pain. That's not normal. And the doctor at my last ER visit made it clear that that was not okay of the previous doctor and that I deserve to be heard and cared for. I literally want to cry thinking of it, it meant so much to me to just be validated. But if I had been dismissed again I probably wouldn't be in physical therapy right now-which PT has been going really well this time. I finally am starting to be able to move and I'm not suffering from debilitating pain on a daily basis anymore. Maybe just 2-3 times a week lol but I still have a bit to go with PT
I completely understand he is trying to be funny, but in our healthcare system where women and minorities especially are often dismissed despite showing signs of serious illness and then those illnesses are left to worsen until they cause often permanent damage- it struck a nerve to say the least. I have found some of his content funny, I don't mind crass humor at all, but definitely some of them were far too insensitive for my tastes.
My mom went to the ER repeatedly over the course of a few years with severe stomach pain. They kept sending her away because they couldn’t find anything even in blood tests and other exams. One day they happened to actually decide to do an ultrasound at the right time and it turns out her gallbladder was swollen up so dangerously it could’ve turned deadly. She had to have it removed. Her pains were from gallbladder attacks that just happened to not show in blood tests. Now I’m going through the same ordeal. Sometimes a single few hour visit isn’t enough to catch something serious and telling someone that it’s Just Them is actively dangerous and honestly should be heavily discouraged.
Took me months to get my gallbladder taken out (apparently days before i wouldve needed emergency surgery) so i feel her pain litterally lol
As someone who has had A LOT of contact with medical professionals since my early teens (I’m 32 now) I can say without a doubt that he is harmful. I’m a “veteran user” of the medical field, so his videos don’t affect me personally in the sense that they keep me from getting the treatment that I need and deserve. I know how to advocate for myself now, so I don’t get steamrolled very easily anymore, because I know a lot about my illnesses, and keep up with the medical literature regarding them as well.
HOWEVER, for 14 or even 18 year old me, he would have made me scared and/or ashamed to go to the doctor for my “minor” issues, which turned out to not be minor at all. One was life threatening (spent 10 days in hospital) and the other debilitating.
He recently made a video where he said people shouldn’t call for ambulances when people are passed out cold from drinking too much, because they don’t do anything for them anyway, and that we should just check if they are breathing, and if they are, they should be left alone.
Where I live (Denmark), people die every year from freezing to death when they haven’t made it home because they were drunk.
I have type 1 diabetes (the life threatening illness, diagnosed at age 14) and insulin overdoses (hypoglycemia) have a lot of similarities to alcohol intoxication. If I’m out cold on the street, no matter if I’m drunk or not, it’s insanely dangerous to leave me there, even if I am breathing. If I’m out cold because my blood sugar is too low, then I might wake up on my own many hours later, if I don’t die, with permanent brain damage. Brain damage that could have been avoided by a simple emergency call. The treatment for hypoglycemia is a simple glucose drip and/or a glucagon injection - both of which can be administered in the ambulance in 15 minutes or less.
You have to keep in mind, most of his audience is American, as is Steve
In America, calling an ambulance will cost the patient upwards of $500
Lots of ppl Uber in emergency situations now because of that
So I think his tip is mainly for ppl here in the US. If someone isn't gonna freeze outside, and they are just too drunk (normally you can smell the booze if that's the case), it probably is best to just make sure they're breathing and prop them up so they don't choke on their vomit if they throw up
Otherwise you're seating them with a $500+ bill on top of their hangover
@@FIRING_BLIND I mean, to be fair, as an American yes I agree it's very expensive but I still think the call should be made. Just because the person is drunk doesn't also mean the person couldn't be having all sorts of invisible medical issues or even could be ODing on something... or they may need to be brought to detox if they're bad enough.
If they are so drunk that they are passed out in public or in a space where somebody genuinely worries for their safety and goes out of their way to call 911 then then to me that's indicative of some sort of an issue that needs to be addressed.. If nothing else it could be indicative of alcoholism and maybe that call could be a wake up call for them.
The paramedics who arrive would know best if this is somebody who just simply needs to sleep off a hangover or if they need help, and what level of help is needed.
It's certainly annoying to have to call in and look at the same people over and over who keep getting in these positions but it's way safer to be over cautious on this sort of thing than not.
@@sunstripe85 Plus iirc the ambulance staff will provide treatment which doesn't cost anything because it's emergency treatment, but the travel to the hospital costs money. (Idk if you have to call the fire department for this to be true though????) So call the emergency number, but get an Uber or smth if they say to take the person to the ER after that.
Being dismissed by doctors ruined my life completely and utterly to rock bottom just because I wasn’t listened to. I was young and dumb and trusted doctors and learned the hard way
I’m in some emergency med classes and that’s one of the first things they teach you, if someone is acting intoxicated, they will need to be checked right away because people will get arrested for being intoxicated in public and then die in custody because the police found out too late
As a nurse, and also someone who has been in the hospital for mental health and found the experience extremely traumatizing, I find this guy absolutely disgusting. I also thought he was a nurse or doctor.
It is insane to me to hear that if the ER cannot figure out what is wrong they will just send you home with nothing rather than referring you to a specialist or running more tests, or even just telling you to come back if anything changes. That's absolutely irresponsible and dangerous- People seeing you in the ER don't necessarily specialize in whatever might be wrong- they should know that them not finding something doesnt mean it's not there
This has happened to me more than once!
It happens. If it's not your heart, if you aren't bleeding or screaming in pain?
You go home.
Specialist don’t take referrals from ER that’s not what an ER is for that’s what your pcp is for
Honestly, being hospitalized for suicidal thoughts, delusions, etc, can actually traumatize people MORE and might not be the right choice for everybody. It might be better for someone to stay with a family member or friend fit a few days. I have multiple friends with horror stories, including one being experimented on, being told so by the doctors, by giving her a medication that had given her seizures in the past, and they knew that. She didn’t have money to sue. Mentally ill people are often treated like garbage by hospitals and it needs to be talked about more.
I agree. I feel like if someone had told me what therapy was actually like, I wouldn’t have gone. And frankly I think that would have been for the best. The situation in America is terrible, but spreading information about it isn’t.
🙌🙌🙌 I refuse to go to therapy now because of past medical trauma. Unnecessary actions taken against me that will never allow me to trust people in medicine ever again.
@@Bex666 ❤️❤️❤️ there are still really good therapists out there, you just need to find somebody you can trust. That’s why getting referrals from friends and looking at reviews is good.
Just over 3 years ago I was hospitalized for mental health. I was yelled at for crying on the first night because I have horrible separation anxiety, I was lied to saying that I would only be there for one day, then I was lied to saying that I would only be there for three days, the patients (children) kept trying to harm themselves, I was yelled at for not knowing how to describe my feelings, I was yelled at for being excited that I was going to leave after 9 days of hell, I was yelled at for not wanting to be with other people, I was yelled at for not smiling with teeth, I was yelled at for not wanting to play on the playground... I think that experience traumatized me and for awhile I was too hurt to talk about it.
Honestly, it didn't help. As soon as I got out of there, I wanted to harm myself again. ...And then I found a longtime partner who really cared, I found my passion in writing, art, and tech, I reconciled my relationship with my mom, I reconciled my relationship with religion, I started trying in school, I found my best friends in the entire world, and I found my truth in regards to sexuality. THAT is what helped me, not the asylum.
Sorry for the essay, I just have a lot of bottled up feelings about it.
@@Calyaer I'm so sorry you had to go through that.
Really makes me glad i ghosted the clinic i was supposed to stay in.
I know not every mental health facility is the same but it's true, people with mental illness are often being treated like garbage, even mental health professionals.
I'm so flad you're doing better now though, sending lots of love your way♥️
I’m a nurse and comedy and sarcasm is definitely an important part of maintaining my mental health through a pandemic, but I will never make a joke at the expense of my patients. I’m also a person with a chronic illness and know what it’s like to be treated unfairly by medical professionals. For both of these reasons I find his videos hurtful.
I cannot watch this video for trigger reasons, but did Jo show the one where he says he thinks you should be happy if medical professionals can't find a problem and send you home? That one still makes me see red because it shows so deeply how he does not understand the experience patients go through when they have problems but nothing shows up in tests.
@@daan8695 Yep it's in there 😞
Same boat. I'm a doctor and chronic illness patient. I definitely have lame jokes and nerdy humor to lighten the mood for the patient, but it never involves making fun of their situation, especially sexual jokes or indicating at all that they are a waste of time. I'd rather then come get checked for a benign issue than wait too long for something bad.
I also want to say thank you so much for what you do. Nurses are so important. I'm sorry for the doctors who treat nurses like crap.
💕Brandi
I’m a certified nurses aide with autism and people always under-mind me. Now I’m going to go to school to be an EMT and I joke but not at the expense of my people I take of.
Thank you for what you do for a living. 💕
Thank you, Jo. As someone with medical trauma after staying in a mental hospital where doctors got to do whatever the fuck they wanted to me, I struggle so much with medical exams and the idea that I have no control over whether or not a doctor gets to touch me. Steve just....so flippantly dismisses everything that brings me so much pain, anxiety, and depression. I felt so stupid and like I was overreacting while watching those tik toks, and it just hurt me to my core. Thank you for seeing me. Much love to you Jo ❤️
Dark humor has a place but it’s not where it will offend people
When I got my CRP license the instructor (an EMT) told us a story
He had just finished responding to a wreck with a teenage girl and they were using humor to cope while out to lunch, one joke was “her body was on one side of the road while her leg was on the other”
Turns out the girl’s brother, who did not yet know about the wreck, was sitting right behind them
Several of the EMT instructors specifically warned us to be very careful about where we have these kinds of controversial conversations. Yes, it is an incredibly stressful, underpaid and under appreciated job.
But that doesn't give us permission to traumatize others in order to cope with our own trauma.
If you're offended by people asking you not to be stupid or rude...
omg I really hope that was just told for emotional impact and not true because I can't imagine anything more horrific
@@hanadrwell said, a few nurses commenting here need to see this comment...
Ew. Just Ew. His attitude regarding these procedures reveals his absolute lack of empathy for patients in the medical system. This can absolutely harm people by turning them off from wanting to get medical help.
As someone who deals with depression, and autoimmune diseases that don’t have a cure or a reason. I also am a licensed EMT, the way he talks about patients and treating people is disgusting
will it really be like he said :(
@@rokksysoftpaws7022 I will say that there are some bad apples in the medical field but there are also some great doctors/nurses out there. It just depends on who you get.
I so much agree with you
@@rokksysoftpaws7022 it just depends, like my dads cancer nurse was really nice, and so have most I’ve met, but some are 😟
I am personally pissed at the person who told you to “delete” yourself. Under NO circumstances should anyone ever tell someone to do what that statement suggests. I would never even say that to a person I hate.
I’ve watched this several times over a couple of months. Each time I see this guy’s videos, I find them less funny, more insulting and so very dangerous to the fragile or impressionable patients who are already in distress.
By contrast, every video of Jo’s has warmth, humour and a level of frank honesty that is as rare as it is admirable.
Wishing Jo peace, health and happiness, and my sending best wishes to all her viewers.
As always I'm late to the party but I'm so glad it's not just me. I had no idea he was a retired ER tech, I thought he was an ER nurse. The self harm one aggravates me but that last one hits home. I've been suffering for 15 months, I've had 4 surgeries, at least 2 more to go, because I went undiagnosed for 3 months with a perianal abscess. I had to hop from doctor to doctor because no one could figure out what was wrong. It took 3 MRIs, so many ultra sounds, and a few different doctors to finally get an answer. My abscess formed a fistula because the infection was in my body for so long. Thankfully, though annoying, my body did what it could to prevent spreading and sepsis. My fourth procedure was supposed to be my final one, but it failed, so I'm going under again on the 22nd. When you are in pain and a doctor can't figure out what's wrong, don't just go home and continue to suffer. Yes it may be nothing but you know your body better than anyone else. If your pain isn't getting better, go to another doctor. Keep advocating for yourself.
Late to the party too and I’m very similar to you. I also thought he was a nurse and I don’t have as serious of a problem as you but I spent close to 10 years with different doctors telling me there’s nothing wrong with me or they just can’t figure it out. Being looked down on by doctors makes so many people’s health situation worse. Anyway I really hope this next surgery is your last one and everything gets taken care of 🙏🏻
I'm so sorry for that happening to you. I totally agree - doctors don't always have all the answers. I've been pretty fortunate with my healthcare, but a year and a half ago I went to a doctor that really surprised me with how ignorant she seemed. I went for a gyno visit because I had unexplained itching (and I was in full lock down so I couldn't have gotten an STD). There was not change in how I looked down there, so I went to a doctor. She gave me an exam, then told me that I was just dehydrated and she could tell by the brown color of the skin... I'm black. I didn't know what to say so I just left. I found out on my own that I was just allergic to my body wash.
I hope the op on the 22nd went well! Power to you and I hope there's something green within your life!
**Comes into the ER in an ambulance with the symptoms of a heart attack - radiating severe pain in the chest, severe dizziness, excessive sweating, low heart-rate, high BP, extremely pale.** --> every conceivable test able to be done to determine if it was a heart attack --> ALL tests come back, not only negative but am told my heart is extremely healthy --> given pain relievers and sent home with no explanation.
**Goes back (husband drives me this time) with the same symptoms, writhing in pain this time (yes writhing, labor wasn't this bad)** You're not having a heart attack you can go home now.
**Third time** MISDIAGNOSED and had to have emergency surgery the next day. For my gallbladder. (Truthfully it WAS stage two and probably did need to come out eventually but still).
**Still in pain a year later and sees a specialist who orders more expensive tests** You have GERD. You need to have another surgery.
Now mind you I was having several attacks a week, and some were severe but they ended quickly. I only went to the hospital when it wouldn't end for hours. I feel you.
I was having extreme and regular upset stomachs, diarrhea, constipation, and other GI stuff (as well as low blood oxygen levels, shallow breathing, coughing, sore throat, fatigue, and movement pain) and eventually, after much testing, I got an anxiety diagnosis. Even though the bracketed stuff went away after treatment for that, the other stuff persisted. As a minor, I couldn’t go in to get more stuff checked out on my own, and was told that it was just psychosomatic when I got an upset stomach (occasionally it still is, but not very often - the situation has to be pretty extreme). After much pestering, I got taken in again, got an IBS diagnosis, and got put on a FODMAP diet. After replacing things that I knew were fine (discovering some that I thought were fine actually weren’t and removing those) I had to test some things that I wasn’t 110% sure about. In the end, the biggest triggers are apples, apricots, peaches, pears, nectarines, plums, gum with artificial sweeteners, pop with artificial sweeteners, and anything else with artificial sweeteners, which give me rapid and extreme diarrhea, and things like garlic and onions giving me an upset stomach for multiple days with discomfort and constipation. After eliminating those (as well as some other random things like zucchini) I felt much better. Point is, I am very glad I advocated for myself.
My first of his videos was the "we know when youre faking for drugs in the ER" and it was incredibly tonedeaf and completely uneducated on chronic illness
Oh wow. I'm sorry to hear that! This guy just checks all the wrong boxes
I commented on his narcan video to hopefully clear up his misconceptions and rude remarks about how addicts won't thank you for saving their life and they will be mad at you for "ruining their high". Very cold and tone deaf!
@@sashabenoit1518 yes! I mean, if you were in perceived bliss and went into OD symptoms I could see that being upsetting. Its not like he even did that for anyone in his old position
I personally was accused and dismissed and gaslit when it turned out I had “3 out of 4 markers of a severe kidney infection”. Apparently the fact I’d been self medicating for a UTI for over a month wasn’t a clue. If they’d sent me home, I could have died.
@@sashabenoit1518 have you ever administered narcan? What the hell do you think happens?
A lot the other videos make jokes of patient confidentiality. It felt pretty gross.
It’s also really weird to hear jokes about something that’s almost killed me. The treatment of patients with chronic illnesses is abysmal, and it resulted in a traumatic brain injury being passed off as a dietary problem. I still have symptoms from it.
When I had gone to the ER after throwing up multiple times, after my blood pressure tanked and I thought I might have had a serious reaction to some of my (many) medications…I got a single tablet of zofran. It cost me >$200 with good insurance. No fluids, no labs.
It was only days later when I started getting extreme mood swings, couldn’t walk, couldn’t speak, had constant headaches, and paralysis of the right side of my face that I got myself to a doctor. The first one told me to change my diet. The second took one look at my terrible neurological state and ordered an emergency CT scan. Hours later after a condescending front desk lady made me stutter out the entire situation and make multiple calls to the doctor that had already called ahead, they figured out I was supposed to be in the emergency ward. For head trauma.
Someone might have turned my visit into a joke like these tiktoks. Overreacting patient putting on a stupid act. Just wants something to be wrong with them. Probably drunk.
I can’t smile properly anymore. But at least it was funny to someone.
I appreciate reading your story, and I'm sorry for how you were treated.
I agree that anyone with chronic health issues (or god forbid, multiple health issues) get immediately overlooked. I'm tired of reading some of the comments here supporting what he's saying, in that medical ER professionals have to deal with so much that it basically lends them a pass to be rude and judgmental to patients. I have never been rude to anyone while at the ER/hospital, but when I've had to go, there always seems to be at least one worker who wants a medal for showing up for their shift, and cannot be bothered to hear what I'm telling them. I think he even did a video/Tiktok where he explains that 'we' in the ER just want to hear the ONE main symptom, and can't be bothered for anything else. I think those that work in the ER actually should receive a medal(pay rise), IF you practice as the professional you're supposed to be!
I apologize for the rant there.
And I hope you are doing well.
@@alexandramcdonald3085 doing very well, and I’m actually working in a hospital now! It’s been nice to make a change in person, see the people-and it’s good to see that at least in my hospital, everyone’s courteous despite the stressful environment
I’m doing a masters of information and you very accurately described how people gather information nowadays. By seeing a person in scrubs giving information online, people are going to find authority in that information. Especially if that information is on a platform like TikTok. Thank you for sharing :)
As someone who has suffered from sexual assault and chronic pain with no diagnosis, these tiktok's are incredibly upsetting and disgusting. Your anger and frustration is 100% valid. Thanks for bringing attention to his dangerous content.
Hey. I’m an RN, and I’d never treat anyone like this. He does not represent the majority of us medical people. Many of us are starting to call him out. I’m sending love and healing your way.
I've seen other, real medical professionals talk about his videos and how the butts of his jokes are the patients. Not the medical system, not the fallibility of doctors, but the people in pain. That's just punching down. There's plenty of dark humor to be found in the medical world, but his ain't it. His humor isn't dark, it's just shock and swearing.
Seriously. The one time it's semi okay is like.... The jokes about parents who interrupt and try to speak for their teens
Or the teenagers who lie about their sexual activity
Cuz like.... If you're a patient or a parent... Don't do that
There are a couple others, but yeah he should be very careful about the direction in which he is punching
This is true
can you link them to me?
Fire department chronicles was pretty much the only heavy humor content i've seen with medical themed jokes, and I'm glad most of it is just about the actual workplace, goofy stuff, or making fun of other crappy medical representations throught the midia and pointing out whats wrong in them
Good point. It is punching down.
I'm an RN and my 8yr career has been in behavioral health- inpatient (in hospitals), outpatient (residential) and in case management. I agree that humor can be used to cope, and can be incredibly dark sometimes, but there is never an appropriate time or place for tearing another person down for laughs. All he is doing is perpetuating the stigma of mental health, and normalizing the dehumanization of patients. I have worked at some absolute shit shows (literally and figuratively 😅) but it hurts my heart to see someone misrepresenting healthcare workers. That's not professional, it's not healthcare, and it's sure as shit not why I became a nurse.
^^^ also, we are reading One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in school so I immediately recognized your pp
I genuinely enjoy his videos.
I have a mystery condition that I have been trying to figure out ten or fifteen years now. Chronic pain, chronic migraines, ocd, severe anxiety and depression, ibs, stomach ulcers, and more. I've spent my visits early on being outright dismissed by medical staff and the techs. It wasn't until last year that a doctor actually listened and has been trying to help me.
I weirdly find the nature of his videos refreshing for some reason but I understand that there is an extreme lack of sensitivity in the way he smiles while talking about such morbid and sometimes sensitive content and how someone could be off put by it though. Comedy and life be weird like that.
Everyone 's tastes are different. However, I think there's a public harm without an express disclaimer. Additionally, certain professions have higher standards they should be held to
@Jay Are I definitely agree about the need for disclaimers!
I disagree to a point about holding people to certain standards based on their profession, but for the most part, I absolutely understand how much pressure we need people to put on each other for that sort of thing. But It's definitely complicated on that front 😅
We don't want a president spouting sh*t like "just grab her by the p**sy" for example 🤣
(Hopefully this wasn't too rambling)
The pelvic exam one gets me so much. As someone who was a gymnast for 14 years and lived in Michigan, the cases against Larry Nassar have stood out to me. In so many of those cases, parents and others were in the room while Nassar abused them. To call people who report sexual assault "crazy" further plays into the harmful narrative of victim shaming.
In general, I feel like the ideas you're discussing tend to punch down instead of punch up. That is, so many people already suffer from medical gaslighting, so to paint someone's undiagnosed pain or someone's sexual assault report as someone being "crazy" (which is also an ableist term) is disconcerting, especially coming from someone who appears to be a medical professional.
I am someone who has often not wanted to go to the doctor for issues, and I have social anxiety, so I can only imagine how these videos would have impacted me before I became disabled. Now, I have two guards: I know my body well enough to know when something is wrong, and doctors are more likely to take everything more seriously because I've had so many health issues.
Also, he's knowingly portraying himself as a medical professional. He knows exactly what he's doing
💯 and it’s sick
He actually makes it known that he is a retired ER tech.
@@mandapants74 he didn't at the beginning of his career. He only added that to his bio after he got called out for it
Why were people assuming he was a doctor? Oh yes! Only doctors use scrubs and work in hospitals! 🙄
I thought he was an ER nurse. Any reasonable person watching his videos would assume so.
Personally I find Steve's videos absolutely hilarious and they've almost always made my day. But I do know he's a retired ER tech and I also do know not to take him too seriously. So I've never thought much about this.
However, what you say in this video makes total sense now that I do think about it. I've had experiences with gaslighting doctors, some of my friends have also been abused, and yeah, biewing it from that perspective changes my opinion a lot. A disclaimer of some sort at the beginning of his videos (at least the "tips from the ER" series) would be necessary indeed. Something along the lines of "I'm a retired ER tech, this is comedy, don't take it too seriously, and if you're sensitive to X, Y or Z, this may not be for you."
Thank you for this well-differentiated view on Steve. Fwiw, I don't think you're a jealous bitch or anything at all like some of his other followers obviously think ✌️
This is the comment I came to make, but you said it better than I would've.
When I first saw one of his videos, I honestly felt quite uncomfortable with his straight forwardness and I guess aggression in his tone is saying things that would make patients end up not wanting to go to the ER in the first place if that makes sense. And you just explaining your reasoning helped me to actually understand why I too disliked his videos
I can't speak on a lot of these issues for various reasons, but I wanna add something to the self harm/suicide thing. The way Steve has talked about this issue reminds me of how I was treated by medical staff after my suicide attempt. Please, for the love of god, take suicidal people and their pain seriously. Don't ever put on a patronizing voice when explaining what you need to do. You may be tempted to try and make the suicidal person feel bad in the situation so they won't try anything again but this is NOT. HELPING. You're literally just making them feel worse.
The way medical staff treats suicidal patients is so dehumanizing and objectifying. I hope you're doing better now and I hope you heal from what happened.
@@idkwhathomestuckisijustlik3439 Thank you
@@idkwhathomestuckisijustlik3439 I am curious, are you referring to the removal of personal possessions and having a staff member watch the patient all the time? Or is it something else you experienced?
I am really wanting to know your thoughts, I am a nurse and sometimes we have patients who are on suicide watch.
It's on purpose they want you to feel worse because they're inconvenienced by your mental health. I know how that sounds, but it's the same way disabled people are treated when they go to the ER we are inconvenience we're not supposed to exist.
@@Crystal5672cats just the tone can sometimes make the whole situation worse. I understand that you guys are overworked and probably overwhelmed but some medical professionals treat people with mental health issues in the ER like we are wasting their time and taking care away from someone who really needs it.
I remember watching Steve for a time, thinking his tiktoks were funny, but it wasn't long before I was turned off by, well, his condescending manner. He seemed so callous and cruel, and I honestly thought he was a nurse until this video. Jokes about these kinds of trips to the emergency rooms ought not to be made.
I'm late to the party but thank you for making a video about this. I found his videos through RUclips Shorts and at first loved them, but then I saw the video about assuming passed out people on the ground are just drunk homeless people and to LEAVE THEM. I felt really icky about it, but wrote it off as a fluke, a product of a bad day at work. Then I saw the video about the dehumanization people having a mental health crisis face with such callousness, and I quit watching the videos.
I had thought maybe I was just being sensitive, I have too much empathy for a lot of dark/edgy/offensive humor so I stay away from it since it just isn't for me. I'm glad I'm not the only one objecting to the nature of these videos.
I'm pre-med, have worked with doctors and shadowed medical professionals, and one of the things that you are taught more and more is the importance of scientific/medical boundary work. The level of mistrust of scientists and medical professionals is a huge issue that just gets worse and worse over time, and while some of it can be attributed to TV shows and social media, a solid slice of the blame can be laid on the ingrained, inherently dismissive atmosphere that has persisted for so long in medical/scientific environments. People like this guy directly, if not consciously, contribute to the general distrust of doctors that is so common among people nowadays.
Content like Steve's is one of my reasons for stopping treatments and choosing to exit the system via death. Medical "professionals" are more and more dismissive, abusive, and gaslight you to the hilt! I've had to fight hard for my life for 14 years...Healthcare (sick care) isn't even close to what it was when I worked in the system!!
Now we have medical people coming out on social media and disparaging patients, their conditions, and situations. Its so distasteful that I can't take it anymore. And I refuse to allow them to abuse me, if its something I can help!
Also, to clarify, my distrust didn't stem from TV...I don't even have TV. It's mostly from personal experience and then topped off with social media medical-fluencers.
I'm a doctor, and he is incredibly crass and unprofessional. I wouldn't be surprised if he was fired from his position. Additionally, if he is trying to present himself as a medical professional when he is not, I would think he is incredibly liable, especially talking about extremely sensitive and heavy subjects, for impersonating a doctor without a license. The topics he discusses are for people who absolutely need help and already are probably extremely anxious or even phobic, and he's making them even less likely to get the help they need. Not to mention the victim blaming!!! Somebody go after him. I'm angered as a doctor who is extremely compassionate in general and cares about how my patients are treated in every sense of the word.
I have a psych degree but I'm not a psychologist, but my take is that the trauma is the point for him. The comedy is cover, so he can say "Come on, it's just jokes. Get real."
He wants and expects people to be traumatized.
@@pjaypender1009 That's so sick. 😔 Thank you for your expertise.
@@pjaypender1009 You could not have said it better. Thanks for taking the time to send Jo such a well spoken and informative response as those of us who have some of those issues (I have had them all and when I get to the ER they announce, “Oh here is another one of our frequent flyers”. It’s all I can do to NOT ask for peanuts and a drink). Many thanks sending ☮️ n ❤️ and may you enJOY 😊 your day, plus thanks for being a doctor who cares enough to read Jo’s RUclips channel!!
Thank you for being this kind of doctor.
I doubt that his behavior is actionable, because he bills himself as a comic. Double-edged sword.
The last one REALLY gets to me. I was passed around from doctor to doctor for OVER A MONTH trying to figure out why I couldn't stop throwing up literally everything I ate or drank and why my abdomen hurt so badly. For the first two full weeks, I was told that I needed to just keep myself hydrated and rest, that I had the stomach flu. Obviously I didn't stop pestering them and several negative tests later, I finally ended up in the ER and found out I had been in renal failure for weeks. By that point I had lost 20 lbs and was severely dehydrated and ended up staying in the hospital for weeks. I am still dealing with the physical trauma from it. I can't stand it when people make light of doctors not knowing what's wrong. It is the worst kind of uncertainty.
As an NP, I can say that "mystery diagnosis" misadventures happen ALL THE TIME. Ya have to keep pushing until you get the answer.
Seriously... I'm so glad you're okay now! 🙌 I hate that ANYONE has to go through this crap 😥 my best friend has a dream of making her own private hospital full of only doctors she knows are competent because her family has struggled SO MUCH with misdiagnosis. It's really sweet actually because she believes so much in me (I JUST started college this past fall) and I would absolutely LOVE for this dream to become a reality, but it's not like you can just speak it into existence. Tbh I have no idea where to start 😅 but by golly we can build our connections and try our best 😤
Maam there you go diagnosis Renal failure they figured it out maybe it took time but they figured it out like i said healthcare professionals are human beings its their fault that you are ill
If youre so upset be a doctor and lets see if you can do it
*not their fault
This reminds me of a certain tweet that I think puts it really well:
[ ""But dark humor can help people cope with life!"
Sure. There's such a thing as gallows humor.
But are you the one on the gallows?
If the person on the gallows makes a grim joke, that's gallows humor.
If someone in the crowd makes a joke, that's part of the execution. ]
I feel like his jokes, especially dressed and presenting as if he's one of the doctors, put him in the power seat, the executioner's role, laughing at the people going through those things.
Jokes can be made about these subjects, but there are better ways to do it, and better people to make them.
That is a PHENOMENAL quote that sums things up so well. Saving that.
He has been getting better, lately. His most recent videos are far more sympathetic and actually helpful. But his older ones definitely were upsetting. I've had horrible experiences in the ER, pretty much grew up in them, and have chronic illnesses.
I did get desensitized to his videos and started finding them funny after I started to understand his humor (and his humor started getting better). But that requires understanding his humor, and being able to appreciate it. The big rule is to recognize when it is exaggerated and not directed at the minority of people who it is not applicable to.
BUT not everyone can do any of the above. There is nothing wrong with that. His type of humor is not a 'stop being so sensitive' level, it is legit triggering level. And the fact that so many of his viewers don't understand the exaggeration is a huge problem.
I do not understand how anyone can mistake him for a doctor. I thought he was a nurse, but nothing about him makes me think he's a doctor.
That’s to bad, get out of your feelings and deal with it
I've watched his most recent stuff and he still has a ton of that mocking-the-patients content. I can't subscribe to that.
People generally seem to think anyone in medical field = doctor
You are sick @@King.of.dreamz
EXACTLY! I love Jo, but her complaint that "he was never a medical professional" really pissed me off. Just because he's not a doctor or a nurse doesn't mean he is not a valuable part of the medical community. ER techs are not fucking janitors, they do actual patient care which makes them medical professionals. What's next, now EMTs and paramedics aren't medical professionals either? And also, he never implied he was a doctor. If people assumed he was, that's their problem.
I used to work in an ER as a paramedic. There's a lot of this type of rhetoric amongst ER staff but never EVER towards patients or lay people. This guy is definitely crossing lines by putting fear into patients, who might have sought help if not for him. I would love to hear MDJ and Doctor Mike's opinion.
Edit to add that I am also a sexual assault survivor and I find that particular video vile
It shouldn't be going around among staff either. Totally inappropriate.
I was a firefighter/EMT, and I agree with everything you said. Edit to clarify: My reply is directed to lxs118.
@@kateri17 No, it’s not inappropriate when just shared between coworkers. That’s an immediate way to address critical incident stress.
He doesn’t work in an ER… he said that plenty of times.
@@elizabetholiviaclark @Betty Olivia Clark I've been a nurse for 23 years and it is not appropriate among staff. The whole idea that it's a a way to cope is dysfunctional and toxic and affects patient care.
His video on SH really really upset me and I didn’t hear anyone talking about it. At the time I was doing research about admitting myself. He detoured me. I became so scared and for the first time in YEARS ashamed of myself. Thank you for this video
The fact that he isn’t in the medical field and still puts on scrubs to make arrogant videos is sick
I just wanna say that you deserve to be happy and you shouldn't feel shame over it. You got this!
FWIW, as someone who's checked themselves in twice over the decades, while I definitely found aspects of the experience quite frustrating, I also found it overall to be mostly helpful. And, you're absolutely not alone, and have no _good_ reason (this guy is giving _bad_ reasons, IMHO) to feel ashamed. I wish you the kind of life where you don't even feel the urge to do SH behaviors. Absent that, I wish you abundant support, whether from friends/family/whoever or from professionals. Best!
There is absolutely no need to feel ashamed about mental health issues! Please seek the help you need, it is so worth it. All the best for you! :)
That’s your fault if your scared stop being so sensitive
@shawnperson7022 you are a narcissist
I've tried to summarize my feelings about this and I think this is what I've got: There are things that should not be said out loud. The moment when saying those things anyways becomes reasonable is when the teller has *gone through something that shouldn't have happened*. A dark joke about your own trauma can be an important part of healing, coping/moving on. A dark joke about someone else's trauma is invasive, not your joke to tell and in some ways equivalent to forcing an LGBT+ member out of the closet.
The only person I'd like to hear a joking take on what it's like in a psych ward/similar, is someone who has been admitted and gone through it. If that's not you, you should shut up about it or you better be the most gentle and caring person the world has ever seen.
This makes me so angry, especially the last one. I saw hundreds of medical professionals over 4 years before I got my EDS diagnosis. I was told it was "all in my head" and "nothing is wrong" because they couldn't figure it out when in reality I have severe Ehler's Danlos Syndrome with several comorbidities affecting most of my major organs. I even had one ER tech try to pass off my breathing difficulties, severe pain and difficulty remaining conscious as "anxiety" even though I had just had major neurosurgery and ended up having a huge CSF (spinal fluid) leak which was causing my symptoms. The first two videos are so so harmful especially to people who have experienced sexual abuse. So many people have mental health problems due to trauma and the thought that they'd be "stripped off" have their bra taken off them and made to sit almost naked with all privacy taken away would definitely stop people reaching out for help
Unfortunately, it is true that they take away UNDERWIRE bras, because the wire could be used in a harmful way. HOWEVER, I think it is valuable to know they aren't actually making you sit naked!
I have a friend who had to go through the process and she was vocal about the annoying details, so to clarify:
- you can keep wearing the bra if it doesn't have metal wire bits in the structure
- you can also take it off, have them remove the underwires, and put it back on. Mind you, with some bras this ruins it, so you might choose to let them hang onto it anyway (which is what my friend went with)
- you're still allowed to wear like, a T shirt, so you're not like, top less.
I do understand the sense of FEELING "naked"/not fully dressed without one, even if you have a shirt with full coverage, but I might suggest like, two t shirt layers, to help mitigate that?
Any case, thank you for pointing out how his phrasing could be interpreted, because my mind automatically "translated", but the average person seeing those would not know the specifics.
I originally enjoyed his videos, but after hearing your arguments, I have to agree. This isn't a great idea, to put it mildly. I had no idea he wasn't a doctor until you pointed it out. Glad you pointed these out!
Yeah, and different things he posted about people going in for pain and faking make it look like people who go to the ER in pain aren’t really in pain and are just faking.
@@sweetluvgurl yes and called them "junkies"
Thats why i unsubscribed his RUclips channel
Yeah me too
Which does happen on a fairly regular basis. All hospitals have pain relief protocols in place to prevent the abuse of scheduled medication. But this sort of behavior happens enough that on a busy day a “Junkie” looking for a fix in the ER/Ambulance etc is not the drama that the ER needs at any time. Not to mention that some can and will say and do just about anything to get that fix. Which can be very distracting while Staff is trying to sort the sheep from the goats.
I agree, his tone was very upsetting and frustrating. I think each of these videos are stigmatizing towards patients. For me, the most upsetting was the pelvic exam video...
if they bother you.....stop watching. his lighthearted humor makes me feel more knowledgeable when going to the ER
I saw this, and want to say thank you for your thoughts. They broadened my perspective. I am in a nursing program and I have several family members who work in EMS. When I originally saw his videos I thought they were funny, because I am used to the dark humor. This is the kind of humor that a lot of medical professionals have behind closed doors to help deal with traumatic events they see daily. After a few videos I found him a little crass but generally funny. Watching your video I realize i hadn't considered another perspective, that of the patients. Listening to your thought I agree that this form of humor can be harmful without context. I was unaware of the position he had worked in while at the ER. I agree there should be some kind of notification, maybe just hashtaging "notamedicalprofessional", "notmedialadvice" or "comedy" to the videos could clarify a little for consumers. I am also sorry you had such a traumatic experience with your exam! ❤
The doctors I follow on RUclips like Dr. Mike and Mama Doctor Jones would absolutely agree with you. Increasing distrust of the medical profession is literally life-threatening. Also, saying controversial things about sensitive topics is not comedy- it's just lazy clickbait. Dark humor is an important coping mechanism, but here's the difference- he's not making light of difficult situations for medical professionals, he's making light of extremely traumatic situations for patients using the most harmful stereotypes possible (rape victims want it, suicidality is a temporary problem, and people with chronic pain are crazy and lying.)
Lost most of the respect for Doc Mike after the COVID boat incident. Still watch him sometimes.
Guess we all f up:)
@@mustangnawt1 if his apology had ACTUALLY been "hey, I was experience extreme pandemic fatigue and I made a bad choice" rather than what it was "I thought long and hard about it" I would have kept following him.
But after months of telling us to just stay home, he went and tried to justify doing just the opposite.
I can't go back to him after that.
MDJ is one of my ALL time favorites though.
@@sarahgocek5906 oh yea that. I didn't care too much, I'm usually staying at home anyways. but even if he told me to stay at home I wouldn't listen to him since he isn't my doctor. The things I listen to him on are medical facts and stuff, advices I get from my own doctor and personal experience.
Foot doc Dana too
Well said.
As someone who has struggled with depression all my life, and having survived FOUR suicide attempts (last time resulting in life support for several days), I would never again seek help through an ER after seeing this “comedy” routine! I am totally with you!
Hi Julie, just remember that you've received help before. So, don't let this guy's joke impair your ability to take care of yourself. Blessings.
please know there are people who cares for you and I hope you all the best Julie. I may be a stranger on the internet but you're very strong and know that I find you an amazing person. Keep strong, you inspire me to be strong myself ᕦʕ •ᴥ•ʔᕤ
Bruh
@@liamrobertson5332 your edginess is unnecessary.
Joe thank you. I live in Canada so I don't have to deal with the financial issues of going to the ER but I have had a lot of the same issues with chronic pain. I have multiple chronic illnesses, 2 of which took 11 and 12 years to diagnose. So I got a lot of "there is nothing wrong" or "we can't find anything" and several drugs seeking accusations. It is eminently frustrating to be treated this way when you are drastically ill.
RUclips started tossing Steveioe into my shorts and video feed because I follow some actual doctor's channels (Dr G is good humor) I have watched some of his stuff. I agreed his is flippant and crass, he does present himself as currently working as an ER tech still. Some of his newer skits are good at raising awareness about abuse and dignity but those types from the ER and his general attitude and humor is punching down not up.
I wanted to talk about what you said about subjects for humor. while I agree that all subjects can be joked about it makes less about the audience or even context but the tone. Is the joke discriminatory or just a "friendly" joke. An example is a burn joke to my sister, after she married her second husband I told them "'Sister' finally found the perfect man! If he tries to run away she just has to take away his wooden leg!". No one laughed harder at that than my brother in law he saw it as a perfect official welcome to the family.
A lot of the taboo subjects for humor are seen that way because comedians still use those subjects to punch down, to discriminate, to shame and to other the people it effects. So for some people yes some subjects are taboo because they can not conceptualize how to write humor that punches up.
I just recently found your channel and I love it to bits! your humor always punches up!
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Hi Jo,
Long time watcher and I thoroughly enjoy your content. I have always appreciated your open, warm and genuine presentation.
I’m a medically retired nurse with 25 years experience nursing people with mental health issues. I was medically retired because I was very badly assaulted by a violent patient. I have had multiple surgeries and now struggle to mobilise even with a cane. By all accounts a wheelchair is in my future so that’s something to look forward too. Personally I want alloy wheels and ‘go faster stripes’ on it. 😆
Anyway, I think that you hit the nail on the head at about 13:45 when you said about comedy being different things to different people. When I was still able to nurse face to face I, and those I worked with, dealt with our fears, anxieties and frustrations with comedy. Sometimes it would be highly inappropriate jokes or comments. But they were never said within earshot of a patient and were only shared with colleagues that trusted each other. None of us would ever intentionally denigrate a patient or their feelings, but we needed a release as our own mental health was impacted so hard by the work we did. As you said, you yourself have cracked some very dark jokes when with people you trust, that the general population could be offended by. Laughter is a coping strategy that works better than any medication to lift your mental state.
I enjoy Steves videos and have experienced a number of the circumstances he describes, both as an healthcare professional and as a patient. More often than not I find his comments amusing. But he is subtle, much like a hammer, and can trivialise topics more often than not. There have also been times where I have found his ‘welcome to the ER’ series therapeutic as he is able to express the frustrations we have all faced in an underfunded, understaffed and poorly resourced healthcare system (UK here) when we ourselves would be struck off for saying the same things.
I respect both you and him and can only comment from my own perspective which does not allow me to comprehend your/his personal experiences and emotional attachments.
I am also a great believer in people making their own minds up and, if so, skipping a contributors content for whatever reason.
To aid that decision making, I agree a warning/disclaimer should be used on some videos. The three you highlighted would appear to be good examples of where that warning might have helped avoid triggering some people.
Anything more than that would start to look like censorship more than a neutral warning for the general good.
Sorry it’s a long ramble, morphine does that to me sometimes. Keep up the excellent content. I’m so glad you won the battle when you were demonetised and labelled as offensive. Absolutely crazy.
From one person with limited mobility to another, have a great day. Find love, happiness and peace at whatever opportunity you can. You deserve it
You have expressed exactly the same thoughts I've had while reading these other comments. I was also in the medical field for 35 years. Medical secretary/assistant, transcriptionist; in hospital and private practice. We hear about, see and/or help people during so many difficult situations. A sense of humour doesn't mean we don't care but we need a little stress relief.
I recently just quit my job as a patient attendant at a hospital and I can say with 100% confidence that his statements in the self harm video are a complete deterrent for people to seek help when they need it. I was the person who would stay with potentially suicidal patients at all times, including watching them in the bathroom. Almost every time that I went down to the ER to sit with someone who was just admitted, they would say something along the lines of "I didn't know I would have no privacy here." I had many patients who, upon my arrival, would want to leave. I assume that if they had heard his "jokes" about what it is like to go to the ER for self-harm reasons that many of these people wouldn't have actually come to get the help that they needed, and that is a huge problem
Considering more people get more traumatised by these places than actually helped, it doesn't matter. Lots of my friends ended up places for suicidal thoughts/attempts. Every one got worse, qnd a few even tried the moment they left the hospital and had a chance.
I totally agree, but I have something to add being on the other side:
I see people saying "well he's just telling the truth about what happens" and sure, I guess. But for me, the deterrent is not the "information" but rather his crude and unempathetic way of talking about it. It makes me think "If I check into the ER, is HE what's going to be watching over me?"
All of my traumatizing experiences with the medical system have revolved around a doctor who talks about me like that man talks about suicidal patients. If I had to surrender control to a local ER because I feel like I'm going to hurt myself, I would never ever want to surrender control to him.
There is no help though. As a person who has tried many times to beg for help at various ERs, all they do is hurt. You'd honestly be better served going out into the night and asking someone to kick you in the face. It'd be less damaging.
@@mariaa8659 dude, when i woke up in the er after an attempt i felt beyond violated and degraded and like all autonomy was taken from me. They lost my clothing and i never got it back, left me on a respirator thing for a near hour while i could breathe fine on my own and the thing was just making it harder for me to, they ignored me and looked me in the eye while i was begging for them to help me, give me a pen and paper so i could communicate, anything, they looked in my eyes multiple times and just left me like that for an hour. Because the dumb doctor didn't have the machine set up right and thought i "wasn't breathing" when i was trying to tell them i could. and the head of mental health tried to convince me I was bipolar within 5 minutes of talking to me and gave me a very big starting dose of mood stabilizers when I've been even taken them before (I've been found to not be bipolar at all and that medication made me someone Im not.) It was just a horrible experience and it's made me promise myself to never be in that situation again, no matter what that means.
@@mariaa8659 I'm so sorry it happened to you as well, some doctors just shouldn't be allowed to deal with patients who are going through that because they're clearly not prepared to :'( it's really sad how instead of trying to actually help they strip a person of all their rights and try to drug them into submission, all the sitters and nurses were very kind and nice but the doctors, god they were just cruel. Things need to change :',','( I really hope you've gotten to a better headspace since then because it can be very traumatizing going through what we did, but people don't really care and then blame us for it, like we would've known it was going to happen or we chose to do it, just know that you're very valid in how you feel about it, we all are
I blocked him so I haven’t seen that “we don’t know what’s wrong” video and that pisses me off. As someone with endometriosis, I can’t tell you how many doctors have said that my pain is “in my head”
THIS! I got told for YEARS that my pain was just UTIs because I was "dirty" and got lectured SO MANY times about how i needed better hygiene when in reality I needed endometrial tissue to not be growing in to my effing bladder!
Yes! I have it as well. How many times we have to go to the ER, get a pelvic, then be told we are crazy or in our heads. It's traumatizing
Or normal, because every menstruating person experiences pain 🙄 I feel you. I have endometriosis& pcos.
@@livenitup862 I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told that it’s “normal period cramps” ... I’m sorry but not being able to walk from the pain is not normal 🙄 I’m so sorry you deal with it too. I wish this disease would just die..
Also an endo warrior, as a sophomore in high school I was told my pain was just psychosomatic, as a senior, its just a cyst it'll pop. Finally as a Jr in college I had surgery and was narcotic free for months for the first time in years.
Thanks for doing this video. I first saw some of his stuff and didn’t think more of them, but then they kept showing up and they got worse. I ended up telling RUclips to stop recommending his channel and giving his shorts a thumbs down.
I appreciate how you wrapped this all up saying that comedy has its place to help people cope with the trauma they’ve endured. I imagine ER staff need to cope as well with they daily trauma they witness, but you’re right, the context matters. He’s not even pretending to address his jokes towards that audience. He addresses those that need the ER. Even not being a Dr or any medical professional you’d think he’d subscribe to the credo of “Do no harm.” That’s ultimately the problem with his content, it does cause harm. His flippant, callous attitude paired with they way he presents himself and how he addresses his audience makes his content harmful. It should be contextualized with a warning or something so to reduce that harm.
i found this video after finding his on self harm. i am a person who struggles with suicidality and these issues (that i am now getting help for) and i found it so crude and degrading. really, really unhelpful. thank you for sharing and i hope the medical field moves in a direction that understands empathy and patient psychology
Coming from the healthcare field, I found him hilarious. But a couple of shorts in I started feeling uncomfortable because I knew, whilst these were things we joked about behind the scenes to debrief or destress, these things shouldn't be joked about with the general public who will eventually become patients.
A few of his videos have made me click off them immediately.
It's fine to joke about someone coming into the ER for a stupid reason, but some of the things he jokes about just cross the line completely.
His videos don't surprise me at all. I've had so many extremely negative interactions with healthcare workers through my life, and it's pretty obvious this is the way many feel about their patients based on the horrible care I and many family members have received. I avoid doctors and only go if I have tried EVERYTHING on my own to cure my own ailments because honestly there are so many A hole doctors who don't listen and are just there for a paycheck. But thank you for being honest and confirming that his jokes and attitudes are truly what's going on behind the scenes. It confirms that I'm 100% right in avoiding them as much as humanly possible.
@@bunny_0288 i think it’s absolutely terrible what happened to you. So many people follow carreer paths for the wrong reason, usually power or money. When you work in healthcare, that decision can be fatal. There are no excuses.
However, if you look at some of the other comments, and also from my own experience and from a lot of healthcare providers around me, this is not the standard. It might be a cultural difference, but this would NOT be tolerated where i live. And i don’t live in a place where respect is necessarily the highest priority for people hahaha.
In healthcare here people make jokes al the time. But never at the expense of a patient. It’s never making fun of the patient or making fun of the illness. It’s making jokes about past experiences, stereotypes about healthcare workers, and shared negative experiences (that could easily be called trauma). That’s what i hear from everyone around me.
I know this will not restore your faith in the healthcare system. But your last comment worried me. The original commenter (and this is not meant in a negative way towards them) might not have a clue about what they’re talking about. And i don’t think they meant it in that way. There are terrible terrible terrible healthcare providers and i genuinely hate them, believe me i’ve experienced MANY of them, specifically misogynistic treatment from doctors. Completely dismissing my pain because i was a dramatic woman that didn’t know what she was talking about. But there are millions upon millions upon millions of healthcare providers that are genuinely good people. Again i don’t know if this is a cultural difference (i hope it isn’t) but making jokes at the expense of patients isn’t standard in healthcare for most healthcare providers.
I am terribly sorry you have encountered some of the worst people in our society
@@meghaha8966 Thank you for your thoughtful response. A doctor is responsible for the death of my parents. He wrote a prescription he had no business writing and didn't listen to their concerns and it led to a serious of events that resulted in their premature deaths. It has forever changed how I view healthcare. I have zero trust in doctors. I double check all of their work with my own research and have found natural cures for things like UTIs and sinus infections. I feel like most (not all) doctors treat symptoms and do not look for the root issues. They shove medications at patients that have terrible side effects and only treat symptoms instead of finding out why the person has these symptoms to begin with. And sometimes medications can't be avoided, of course, but I have found natural ways of treating many issues that doctors would just give me antibiotics for. I could tell you so many stories of things that have happened to me, my husband, and friends/family members that would appall you. The entire system is broken. I fundamentally disagree with how medicine is practiced the more I have learned and researched on my own. I just don't blindly trust anyone. Even the best doctor in the world is still human and can make mistakes. All this to say, I know there are some good doctors out there that are doing their best to help people. I just don't trust that what they were taught in medical school is always the best approach to treating people. But that is just my opinion based on my own horrible personal experiences and the horrible experiences of sooo many ppl around me.
Yeah I'm an ATC so I've had a giggle at some of his videos. Ive also had conversations with athletes who go to the ER for everything. But yeah especially the 3 you've showed made me uncomfortable.
Yeah the pain pill addict ones and stuff were pretty heartless.
I wondered how he was able to make these videos if he was currently, as I assumed, a nurse.
Knowing he isn't makes a lot more sense all around.
He is hurting hospitals reputation in addition to the crazy costs. Like, we do not need more reasons to not go to the hospital when we need to.
Oh give me a break.. it's just a comedy video, people got too sensitive with time, I am probably diagnosed with every known illness in the medical book but I am able to laugh at stupid stuff like this..
even though most of his jokes suck imo, you can still clearly see that he is just trying to be funny..
@@georgebruh8325 Every illness? Wow, and you function enough to rant on YT?
@@protoclone138 yep, still got a functioning index finger for hunting and pecking unfortunately, carpal tunnel hasn't got me yet.. that's the only thing preventing the achievement from being unlocked
@@georgebruh8325 Wow, and your typing is so coherent. You're so brave.
@@protoclone138 Oh yes, as you can see I am a very high achiever even with only one functioning body part, if you are impressed with my one finger typing you should see me wiping my ass truly a feast for the eyes
I just found your channel last week but with every video I gain more and more respect for you. I love how you try to approach this as fairly as possible even though it hit so close to home. you are just awesome.
I do not know why YOU are the only one pointing out problems with him, other than greed. Thank you for having the courage to do so. Then again, you've been courageous in many other ways. The contrast between your journey and his is vast.
Probably because he has a bunch or rabid 15 year old boys who find him hilarious attacking and insulting the creators who dare criticize him. Even in these comments where Jo was incredibly respectful there were these assholes calling her too sensitive and telling her to kys. Most of the worst were thankfully deleted but still
When I first came across his videos, I found them amusing and (a smidge) educational. But over time the topics he covered with that same tone became more and more sensitive and I started feeling really uncomfortable with them. The three you shared are perfect examples of why I unfollowed
Same actually
This!
Same!
Literally did exactly the same.. I tried to hold out because at first I thought it was honest mistakes, but then he repeated the behavior.. so I thought about it and unsubscribed.. it actually bothers me that another account of mine still follows him so I need to try and get in
But the one about not calling the ER/ambulance on collapsed people if you think they’re drunk really infuriated me, along with a few others
Like he’s giving information to hundreds of thousands/millions of people that is going to kill someone, directly or indirectly
I thought it was a fluke but then he left it up and didn’t even apologize as far as I saw
Then I had enough when he continued giving horrible medical/bad advice in a condescending voice
So many people avoid the doctor because they are worried of being judged/embarrassed, and these videos perpetuate that
Edit: OMG HE’S NOT A NURSE???
I just got bored of his jokes he does the same crass tone for every topic got old quick lol. I watched his stuff for like a day ish.
I recently discovered Steveio and like him but I did know he was a tech not a doctor but I didn’t realise he no longer worked in that field. I do have a very sarcastic humour myself and no history of trauma so thanks for opening up my eyes to a different point of view than my own
Underrated comment. I do have illness, but I am very tolerant of humour and will usually take it as just trying to be funny. However, I like seeing other points of view. And honestly I don't think there is one right answer.
He just left the field as his social media just took off. I feel like it is pretty common for many medical staff members to understand what happens in medicine, as they see it, and often may do a lot of the “grunt” work. They obviously wouldn’t do a pelvic exam, but it’s possible for them to be a witness to one and understand the attitudes of doctors and nurses.
He said in a video that he does not work in ER anymore
@@sabakhadem8263 in A video out of so many do you have any idea how easy it is to miss that unless you just sit there and watch all of his videos
@@Elfieee13 he is actually quite transparent about it. Chill!
The way the ER deals with self-harm cases is really harmful in general. I have a friend that had to go through what he described and it utterly traumatised them. If that friend saw this tiktok, it would definitely trigger them, especially with how apathetically he discusses such a traumatic experience. Knowing the current ER process for self-harm can be helpful and informative, but doing so in this manner does more harm than good. I had seen this exact tiktok before watching this Footless Jo youtube review of it and it made me really uncomfortable too, especially knowing what my friend went through.
Having their things taken away traumatized them?? Oh, please. You wanna know what’s traumatizing?
Not taking the possessions of a psych patient, only to find out that they hid razors in the pocket of their underwear, leading them to cut themselves to the point where they required 168 stitches.
Not taking the possessions of a psych patient, only to find out they had a loaded gun on them. Which then they either use on themselves, or others around them.
Not taking the possessions of a psych patient, only to find out they had drugs in their bra leading them to overdose.
I’m sorry, but I’m not putting *my* safety at risk, nor the safety of the rest of the unit for that matter, just because some people feel that it’s too traumatic to have their belongings searched and taken.
@@doork01 I don't think anybody is suggesting that these practices aren't in some way logical, however, they absolutely can be traumatic to the patient, especially if the professionals they're dealing with are callous about their approach.
I have a good friend who's struggled with suicidal ideation. One particularly bad day, she had wound up in the bathroom with a knife, contemplating you know what, and contacted me in tears.
Aside from reassuring her that I loved and cared for her, would miss her if she went through with it, that the world was a better place with her in it, there wasn't much I could do. I was stuck in place with no access to a car at the time, and was taking care of my grandmother, who had been diagnosed with Alzeimers and needed someone there to make sure she didn't do something like take extra doses of her meds or try something that made sense to her in the moment, but was actually risky (like try to walk without her walker). It was. A lot, as it was, to deal with.
I knew I was out of my depth, and at capacity for what I could individually handle or do. So I, not knowing any better idea, told her to call 911 and tell them she needed help because she was thinking of killing herself.
What I did not realize, is that when you say something like that to 911 operators in Florida, apparently ARMED COPS show up with guns drawn, because I guess it's assumed if someone is thinking of taking their own life they could be dangerous to others (which I both do understand and find exasperating because she very much was only interested in hurting herself, no one else, and just needed emotional amd possibly medical help - showing up with guns already drawn is terrifying and often not the best way to handle this!)
Once it was made clear that she was only a danger to herself, not others, she was taken to the ER, and Baker Acted (put under temporary involuntary confinement and monitoring for safety).
And look, both she and I 100% understood the logic of "taking away anything that could be used to self harm" when the person is in active distress expressing thoughts of wanting to hurt or kill themselves. OF COURSE this is logical, even just for patient safety, let alone those around them.
That does not, I repeat, DOES NOT, mean that being told things like "you can only keep your bra on if you let them cut it open to remove the underwire" doesn't suck for the patient, or feel humiliating, or cause further distress.
In her case, she felt "naked" and self conscious without it on, and it was a supportive garment physically as well. Cutting the underwire though, would in that case have been rendering it useless for support and ruined the bra, so there was no point to not taking it off and turning it over - but it still made her feel more vulnerable without that extra, socially-dictated layer of clothing, it still made her feel ashamed of her situation, it still felt, well, awful.
The other restrictions also, though understandable from "patient safety" perspective, rendered the whole situation awful to live through. She understood the logic, as do I, but the complete lack of neutral or positive stimuli, the complete lack of anywhere for any restless energy or mental attention to go, and the complete lack of control even over the smallest things one could normally give no second thoughts to, was MISERABLE for her.
Because she also was not allowed any access to decent reading materials... and was not allowed access to writing implements... OR internet. They prevented her having any access to social media or email or computers in general, for the multi- day duration, and she had no access to physical writing implements either.
She was a writer of fiction and analytic essays, and she wasn't allowed any way to write as a distraction. She was a reader who loved books, and she had nothing to read as a distraction. She had no access to the games on her phone, or to me, to chat about unrelated enjoyable things, or to so much as youtube to watch a cute cat video.
They had a couple of easy cardboard puzzles in the common area, which were both missing some pieces. That was it. They were not allowed to be trusted with anything else. I say "they" because there was apparently at least one other person there, who was in visible and auditory distress of course.
The staff didn't really interact with her beyond bluntly telling her what she couldn't have on her or access to.
For someone like her - creative, curious, restless, depressed and anxious - this did NOTHING to help her mental health. When she wasn't still thinking she wanted to die, she was just bored stiff with nothing to distract her from spiraling all over again and nobody bothering to try and help her see any upsides to staying alive.
When she was eventually asked "are you still having thoughts of self harm or suicide?" she lied, and said "no".
Said no, because she knew any sort of "yes" would mean a longer stay in a place she was MORE miserable in than she had been outside of it. A place where she felt like nobody cared or thought of her as human, a place she couldn't even wear a goddam bra in or use a pen or pencil in. That she couldn't even read a book in.
She was honest with me when I was finally able to come pick her up after her discharge. She told me what it was like and she said she NEVER wanted to go through that again.
Now, last I knew, it's several years later and we kinda drifted apart but as far as I know she's alive and doing... okay at least?
But for sure, I get the impression the entire experience was awful and, yes, traumatic. And while she was not able to take her own life, as she was scared that she might at the time, the way she was treated didn't help the underlying problem that led to that.
Pretty much the only positive thing I saw was at least she was taking control back and had motivation for something, even if that something was "getting the hell out of here because it isn't helping ". Which, well, she didn't actually kill herself right after leaving, so I guess that's what we settle for.
But yeah tldr: nobody is saying there isn't a good reason for these practices. What we're saying is that even these practices, while necessary to have, are tough for people to deal with when they're already at their most vulnerable; the whole process can feel like scraping your heart raw as it is.
So staff treating the subject callously, yeah, that is... unhelpful in solving the problem.
I like a lot of his videos, but that one in particular made me wince, because when you're talking to someone who's that emotionally distressed, callousness is the last thing you need to be projecting.
Yes, staff and patients need to be physically safe. But when the physical safety is only in question because of psychological problems, then treating them with anything other than compassion, is going to worsen the underlying problem, not fix it. The experience ALREADY has a high likelihood of being traumatic; the professionals handling it do not need to, and should not, make it even worse.
@studioyokai yes it is a double edged sword caring for patients with these issues. But even a bra with the underwire removed can be used to choke yourself to death. Until you have actively had to stop someone from killing themselves in a clinical setting, this is not something you will understand. Working in these settings creates so much trauma for the workers. I genuinely feel for people who have these problems because trying to protect them from themselves does create more trauma. Healthcare workers have to be wary of books because pages can be ripped out and crammed down the throat to choke to death pens can be used to rip open flesh, bras have been used to hang yourself. Phones can be broken and glass used to slit wrists.or even just to stir problems with loved ones. A doctor once let a suicidal patient keep their phone and their significant other came to the ed and physically assaulted staff because she wasn't allowed to leave. It is a no win situation. People like to complain about the crass and dark humor of healthcare workers and I agree it more often than it should goes over board. But honestly, most people would never be able to handle the emotional and psychological trauma that healthcare workers deal with every day.
I've been sexually assaulted and pelvic exams are terrifying to me even 10 years later. Someone I am not close to being down there makes me incredibly uncomfortable and almost cry. The thing that gets me through it is that it is not sexual, it is medical. I need a professional environment when having that exam. His video about pelvic exams makes me so uncomfortable. If I can't trust that my doctor is professional and is not sexualizing this procedure, I won't get it, even if I need it. I literally leave those exams shaking and remembering bad memories.
He's humor is my kind, but I really think he's being harmful without realizing it. He's going to discourage people from going to get help...and I didn't know that he WASN'T an er nurse. Thank you for talking about this. It made me really sad to hear him talk about people "not really being sick" when doctors can't find what's wrong. I guess since I have fybro M. I'll just not move my whole body 🙄😐
He’s being pretty specific when he talks about that though. You don’t go to the ER to get a fibro dx. I think a bigger issue is the hard network shows do when they show everyone getting a definitive DX and effective treatment when coming in through the ER all in the span of 24 hours. People don’t understand wha an ER is really for. Its for LIFE THREATENING EMERGENCIES, or things you legit think are life threatening, or broken bones, and little else. Period. You will not walk out of there with a dx for anything other than a broken bone or a heart attack. If you can beat it until normal business hours tomorrow, you will be discharged and told to call your primary care. You might get antibiotics, MAYBE a painkiller. I have been discharged at 25 with no ability to WALK and no MRI or any imaging.
ERs are not diagnostic centers, not “Dr’s offices”. They are there to stabilize your vitals and make sure you can survive to be someone else’s problem tomorrow. More people need to know that. This ER technician isn’t “harmful”. Someone’s sense of humor is going to always offend someone else. I think Jo was in a bad place to take this humor so it hit her the wrong way. I could see myself taking it the same 8 years ago. I subscribe to him and laugh every time now, though. Pelvic exams used to be traumatic for me because of my history and ptsd, but they are just annoying now, like for most women.
Also, a fair amount of his content is funny with a compassionate twist- like when he feels sorry for the person with no one to list as an emergency contact and offers himself.
I just don’t think this is harmful. It humor that isn’t for everyone, but not harmful. I feel for Jo, but she is internalizing way to hard here.
@@juliejanesmith57 But sometimes gynecological concerns can cause pain so severe that you think you're dying.
I have been to A&E because my period pains were so severe I couldn't stand straight. I went very pale and clammy. My mum took me in because she was worried I had appendicitis or a cyst that had burst.
Turns out, it's adenomyosis. Which causes exceptionally painful periods. Hormonal contraception and prescription pain relief helps. However I'm not wasting resources by using A&E when the pain is so bad I can't stand.
@@juliejanesmith57 and he is harmful. He is offensive. He paints things in such a harmful light that he would put people off getting help that they need.
i'm in the same place as you. i used to follow him. it's so hard to watch that video regarding self harm and see him being so disrespectful when he was once part of a healthcare team. that will absolutely turn anyone who is seeking help, away. and who knows what could happen. ):
I really disliked his one on self harm.... that's gonna scare away people who need help.
I do find his content funny, but some of them go overboard...
I think the difference with "jokes that shouldn't be made" that you hit on is that it is different when there is a person who has experienced it making the joke. If I make a joke about limb loss, having never lost a limb, I don't have any context or understanding. That joke is at the expense of others experience. I think that's a key difference
I joke all the time about my toe amputation. It keeps you sane and normalizes it. I think he is dangerous, because it isn't things he has experienced, and he puts in the worse possible way. he is not funny in any way.
You are right
This is 100% true. As someone with a chronic pain disorder affecting my entire body for multiple years, I’ve made some pretty brutal jokes that if I wasn’t laughing, people would be scared to laugh at. This guy Stevioe literally made fun of people with chronic pain in a video in which a guy who is not visibly showing signs of pain says he’s a 10/10 on the pain scale only to make him seem like he’s lying
I can tell you, I’ve seen other people with my condition and conditions like it show absolutely no distress on their face but pierce their palms with their nails to cope.
I think the major issue is he never outright states he isn't a nurse, doctor, or any type of practioner. It would be akin to someone pretending to be a cop, who never outright states he isn't, talking about how they make pat downs sexually. Difference is that the latter is a federal crime while the former is not, so there's less blocking people from impersonating a nurse besides general fraud, which isn't really applicable online.
I agree with what you’ve said in this video. People like him should warn people at the beginning of the video. Don’t let the haters get to you. One will never escape the morons out there.
I've only seen his more recent videos which have an entirely different tone, but these are simply shocking. I feel vulnerable, uncomfortable and gaslit and I haven't even been to the ER! As someone with chronic pain, I'm so tired of being told that there's "nothing wrong". I put off going to the doctors for so long because I have a fear of wasting their time, to the point where a doctor sent paramedics to my house recently because I was terrified of wasting the time of hospital staff. They get here and I apologise profusely for wasting THEIR time, and they simply said "we're here to help. We'd rather check you and find you're okay, than you leave it for too long and have lasting damage". I'm grateful for them and their amazing ability to calm my anxiety, because I'm so used to the mindset that Steve portrayed in the 3rd video being enforced.
Having trauma from ER visits, which were caused by staff being unkind and dismissing my already present ptsd, this is...validating. When I first saw his videos, I felt uncomfortable, shocked even. And then I thought it was just me and didn't talk about it because "Im too sensitive". Thank you for speaking up about it.
I saw a few of his videos and he scared me to be honest. It made me wonder if this is really what the doctors/ medical professionals thought about me and made me even more scared of them.
Your feelings are valid even if you are sensitive. I also have PTSD and that makes it hard to believe that my feelings are valid bc of the narrative that we are "too sensitive." In my case, I'm trying to learn that just because something doesn't upset someone else doesn't mean that I'm wrong for being upset. Our experiences shape our reactions and it would be unreasonable to expect you not to react negatively to something that triggers you. Actively unfollowing or blocking things/people that trigger me has been a huge help, I highly recommend.
I do not have ptsd, but after being hospitalised for the first and - so far - only time, I needed therapy for anxiety. Not because of the medical condition that got me into hospital, but because of the way I was treated by the staff.
His fanbase is kind of rabid. They love him and his jokes, and they aren't nice to people who see his videos and express discomfort. You are not too sensitive! Neither am I or Footless Jo for thinking his videos are harmful. It's completely reasonable to be concerned about all the bad his videos might be doing.
My husband wasn’t believed in the ER. He was in agony, couldn’t bend his neck, and felt ill. They sent him home……while he had meningitis. He almost died because of it. It’s not a joke and while I think his symptoms were obvious….I even asked if it maybe it was meningitis, but they missed it. I realize doctors are humans, but I agree this kind of message is harmful.
When my older sister was going through her battle with uterine cancer, we joked about it relentlessly. Her blood counts were so low she was passing out in random places around her house. We joked about my mom making rules about places my sister wasn't allowed to pass out. We also made jokes about the process of chemotherapy and radiation treatments. Things that outsiders would have thought crass and even heartless.
Our way of dealing with bad, scary things is to dress them up in silly clothes and mock them relentlessly. It's how my family copes with these things.
I'm retired from a large regional hospital. He has no empathy, it's good he left the profession, also he's horrifically ablest. He's super problematic imo. It's not you.
Saaaame.
When something is wrong and you're gaslit and harassed and charged $2k. It's one of the worst experiences and really drives you away from help you *need* to survive.
I'm so glad to see you calling this out. How severely harmful it is.
I have watched some of his videos & found them funny. I have also found some that are quite disturbing. I also have to say that the ones that you showed I had not seen before today. I agree with you that he does give the impression that he is still in the profession. I agree that a warning or disclaimer should come with each of his videos to state that this is not medical advice from a professional. We should not have to go to the profile page for that information. It should be right up front with every video.
I am also a comedian, and I keep in mind the rule of thumb I once heard someone offer re. what kind of humour is offensive and where is the ‘line’. Look at your punchline and look at the people who aren’t in power in the situation you’re describing. If the punchline is at the powerless party’s expense, don’t make the joke. Steve consistently breaks this ‘rule.’ That’s where his dark humour crosses a line into what I would call unacceptable conduct.
Punch up not down.
Gallows humor is a great term, and a great example is if you are not the one in the gallows, you shouldn't be making jokes
@@hugrunj Anyone can make jokes. You aren't a tyrant or dictator to enforce your views on others
@@RaizanMedia I'm not?
@@RaizanMedia they're talking morally here. You're "free" to say whatever you want. But you should know that by not following this rule you're potentially kicking people while they're down. Normal decent people shouldn't want to do that.
I saw that video and checked myself into the psychology ward. It actually helped me be OK with telling the ER that I was suicidal. Knowing that er techs and and nurses and doctors would just treat me like a person that needed serious help made me feel better about seriously seeking help.
The way he packaged it, to me, was like... hospital staff may be crass and unfeeling, but they still deal with serious issues daily and I'm going to be in good hands. I was.
It’s humor, if you don’t care for his humor don’t watch it.
"If it hurts to move it, stop moving it!" Is so unbelievably unhelpful when EVERYTHING HURTS ALL THE TIME 😂. Also terrible advice when too much immobilisation causes issues with your fascia, which will only make things worse in the long run 🙄🙃
I understand and agree.
I just wonder is your condition something you would go to ER for help?
This happened to my dad. He had leg pain, and didn't move the leg. He had other issues, too, with his knees, but now he's disabled.
@@laululla Not usually! I have central sensitisation pain which is likely due to hEDS, ADHD undiagnosed & untreated til I was 25, and trauma... but if I dislocated something and it didn't go back in (which has never happened so far, and won't - fingers crossed!) I would go to urgent care 😅. I did go get medical treatment for a broken foot 2 years ago, which posed another problem because I walked on it for nearly a week thinking it was just bruised/sprained due to it not hurting that bad to me (other than when it actually broke, and when I accidentally kicked something 😫, but that pain was very sharp and short so it was easy to push aside) because my pain perception is all wonky 😅. But even then it's really important to mobilise sensibly without causing significant pain - using the foot helps it heal properly, and reduces any atrophy (I still have some, but it's not that bad, and it would be way worse if I kept off the foot completely 😬).
I would only go get emergency treatment if something significant happened tbh, and now I _know_ what a broken bone feels like, at least I wouldn't chalk up another one to my usual pain 😅
Also.. stomach pain? How do you stop moving your stomach lol
@@TheEmmakathryn Well I guess you just stop moving at all 😅
He has released more recent videos where he is more sensitive about certain subjects. For instance, he did a newer one on self harm that mentioned all the same things that will happen if you come in reporting intent to self harm, but he framed it as a conversation between a concerned nurse and a suffering patient who understands why they need to do those things. People in the comments section who had self harmed really appreciated that video. I hope he’s taken down the mean spirited ones.
Honestly as someone who's been hospitalised in a psych ward like ten times and attempted numerous times, I didn't really see any problem with the one about presenting at ER, but the one about the pelvic exams felt weird esp "just in case the patient is a crazy lady and says i touched you". As a chronic pain experience...r, I totally get why you're pissed off about the last one.
This was such a different perspective from mine. I spend A LOT of time in the hospital every week because of other chronic conditions that are individually disabling, and the time in the hospital is new to me because they've only started to work out what was wrong very recently. I think your reaction to this depends on your view on humour and medicine. I find his content helpful because a lot of my time in the hospital is spent in very undignified circumstances, and that's true of hospitals generally. He's never highlighted anything my brain wouldn't be worried about (like having a chaperone for a pelvic exam and pointing out why the way he did is incredibly crass, but because the inherent opportunity for abuse is where my brain automatically goes, I'm not offended that he points it out). A lot of his videos have put me at ease in the sense that most of what we as patients are experiencing is so normal, regardless of moral right and wrong and horrificness; it is normal in this world. It's the medical staff's bread and butter. The fact he says it so casually removes a lot of the judgment I always worry about from medical professionals and points out that to many people, you're just another person going through the standard procedure. I feel less guilty when I am unsure as to if I'm wasting medical staff's time. I feel comforted knowing I'm not alone in my experience but how it's presented in his videos doesn't force me to emotionally engage in another individual's experience to feel this way. From the beginning, I was aware he was an ER tech, but I was watching him before he retired. I think my perspective might've been different had I not known the entire time that part of his account is a comment on the extreme burnout experienced by medical professionals. It was helpful to me to recognise that what are extremely emotional moments for me within a hospital, are things medical professions see and deal with regularly. It has helped me with some of my frustration when I was incredibly emotional and staff weren't acknowledging how big a deal it was for me. I think a label saying he is not a medical professional is slightly misleading because, technically, he could turn around and apply for another job in medicine at any moment's notice and is qualified to do so (as far as I'm aware). However, I think a "Comedy from a retired medical professional, " "no longer practices medicine, " (very bad suggestions but I'm struggling given he occupies a very small niche) or a label generally indicating that this is satire and/or he is not a nurse/doctor is necessary so people know what they're watching. However, I think the label you suggested could be perceived as undermining him and his perspective because he has spent years in medicine. Thank you so much for opening a dialogue on this. I should also highlight that one of my biases is that I'm not american so I am not emotionally invested in the insurance system in the same way I can imagine most americans are given how awful it is as a system.
The one with the "we don't know what's wrong" makes me so angry to the ends of the earth. I went through 7 doctors, 1 ER visit, a physical therapist, and it was finally the freaking naturopath that figured out that I had bulging discs in my lumbar spine that if I continued to ignore, could have herniated or even ruptured. Even at the ER, they ran x-rays, and when I asked for an MRI, they said that since the x-ray didn't show anything, there was no need. Well guess what? When the naturopath ordered me an MRI, lo and behold, it showed things the x-ray didn't. It wasn't my fault, I was taking more than the safe limit of ibuprofen per day (when I already have liver problems), and even when I was going to physical therapy, they weren't focusing on the right things because the doctors were giving incorrect notes (they were treating muscles, not bones). Three months of chiropractic adjustments and a personal trainer helping me make a workout plan that worked for my spine and I'm better now, but things like this just make me irate.
The second one on self-harm is really one of the factors that quite honestly made me afraid to ever go to the ER. It made me so scared of this that I felt even worse about getting help. He made it sound really terrifying to receive help from medical professionals.
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Hey I hope your okay now and don’t be scared to reach out for help even if it’s just telling a friend
It is pretty scary and this is exactly why it's best not receive any help from medical professionals because their help is rarely ever actual helpful. Research shows that these holds literally do nothing and often make the problem worse later by giving the person more trauma. Therapists are the only actual people you have when it comes to mental health and if you ever get institutionalized it's not about your mental health. It's about you being a problem. We don't treat mental health issues at all.
@@nagitokomoeda8340 Thank you for your concern. I'm feeling a lot better now.
@@Fizzypopization I completely agree
It had a counter effect on me. It made me more willing to go to the ER. Bc u know, I felt protected even without consent. And it made me feel safe, since I was "giving consent" to my death.
But yeah, he does sound like a jerk.
I am so sorry you have to explain yourself so many times and that folks have repeatedly accused you of being a "Karen" when you are clearly asking for warnings, that's all! Again, thank you for using your platform to speak up for so many of us
As a nurse I find most of his videos to be humorous. Yes, he jokes about patients, but I've never heard him joke about any specific patient, just the general types of situations every nurse encounters. And even though it's a little dark or vulgar at times, I don't see a problem with that, since it's the same kind of humor you see on other medical sitcoms like Scrubs. And I know he's not a real nurse, but he used to work with us so he knows alot about what nurses do.
as someone who has been to the ER for a suicide attempt he's just straight up wrong. at least at my hospital: they don't do any of that shit. I changed into a gown but still had my phone and ear buds, as they left me alone for hours at a time. also the way he talks about it is just weird. "suicide is a longterm solution to a short term problem." is !. a horrible misunderstanding of the causes of suicide and 2. when stated in that tone, while smiling, honestly feels condescending
Exactly ur hospital my hospital takes everything bras yess shoes ur phone earrings anything u can use to harm urself u only get a hair tie and socks a gown underwear that look like boxers
Your hospital failed you if they didn’t take your things and put you with a sitter.
This. Plus the way he called suicidalness a short term problem when for some people those thoughts are indeed not short term just seems ignorant in a way.
Well I don't know what hospital you were at, but they were not following procedure. I am an ER nurse and in every video I've seen of him he's been right. Or am I not "medical professional" enough eighter? Crude humor is how we deal with the tramatic shit we see in there and a hefty amount of patients appreachiate it too.
@@antheiheiant "Crude humor is how we deal-" ok, doesn't mean its not wildly inappropriate. Especially if the patient is the butt of the joke. The way you responded makes me think you are exactly the kind of nurse who would make very transphobic jokes about me to your coworkers with me in earshot.
A critic of the nursing professsion shouldn't feel like a personal attack, unless. . .
There's another video I found fairly problematic. He had a video on faking seizures to avoid law enforcement. But it came off as extremely harmful because of those of us (like me) who suffer from Conversion Disorder or other Somatoform disorders where things like seizures can be caused by acute psychological distress, but won't read as "real seizures" on an EEG. I wouldn't expect him to know this exists, but it isn't that hard to do some god damn googling about seizures. It's everywhere. As a medical professional, it shouldn't be difficult to research the disease you're claiming to be a professional on. He could even have asked a neurologist or put any effort at all into the background checks on his work. Its harmful. Extremely harmful.
Like so many people in these comments I've also had it where I've known something was wrong yet had to go back to the doctor over and over and over before they found anything wrong, its so annoying that its assumed we dont know our own bodies. Obviously there are time wasters but especially in countries where you have to pay if we are at the doctors we are worried
The one about thoughts of hurting yourself really bothered me. When I was younger I had to go to hospital for stuff like that a lot because at the time I was undiagnosed, but had schizoaffective disorder and bipolar disorder. On top of that, I was abusing psychedelics pretty much every single day, from morning until night. There were more times than I can count on fingers I had to go to the ER for losing my grip way way or another and being terrified. In my opinion my problems didn't compare to any one else at the ER but they didn't make me feel that way. They didn't make it sound scary or anything, they usually would just give me a blanket and wait in front of the desk. Despite my good experiences, that video bothers me because the only reason I DID go to the ER for my problems was because of the welcoming tone, not the way he makes it sound.
You are 1000% correct on this subject. As a person who has been known to laugh at highly inappropriate/dark comedy, I believe what he is doing is wrong. Comedy is not an excuse to deliberately mislead people in ways that could hurt them. Maybe he needs to experience what a speculum feels like, and maybe he wouldn’t be so damn flippant about it.
It’s not even comedy. Repeatedly referring to patients as “motherf*ckers” is at the least, extremely weird. Comedy implies that the general population finds it funny, but this comedy is at the expense of others...
I totally see how his content can harm people and I think if someone is actually going through a medical crisis his tone and style wouldn't be helpful. I assume he was never actually like this to patients in person and this is just to make the point more comedically. I've never been offended or affected by his videos, even the ones that apply to medical problems I have had, but it makes sense some people wouldn't enjoy them and some scenarios are more appropriate to joke about than others. I do agree he should make his profession known
In the 'tips from the er' videos he doesn't but he states that he's not a Dr and is an er tech many times, especially on his RUclips videos. At least a few on tiktok that the said it in have been removed.
Eta that I just noticed he lists he's retired now on his RUclips
I cannot stand when people behave like him. You are what you give your time to.
While I definitely get where you’re coming from. As someone who has struggled with suicidal thoughts and been to the Er for it. This made me laugh. It was kind of adding a little humor to the trauma
That’s typically the point of them though. If this girl had to witness a quarter of the things we in the ER witness on a daily basis, she’d be checking in as a patient (and then flipping out because someone like me has to take her belongings for a reason that she definitely wouldn’t understand)