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I used the old Belarusian flag in a video about Slavic Languages and got a lot of complaints. The only people who weren't complaining however were actual Belarusians themselves, it's funny that....
I'm not surprised at all. All my friends and acquaintances who liked the red-green flag changed their opinion about it when Lukashenko ordered it to be hung everywhere, including on police trucks where citizens who were just passing by were brutally beaten. I believe that the red-green flag still dominates the self-concept of most Belarusians, especially among the undereducated rural population who do not have access to the Internet, but seeing with my own eyes how many of us came out under the white-red-white flag, I am absolutely sure that young people have chosen to use it over the soviet one.
@@vladblch3630 the white and red flags looks boring and the white on both the bottom and the top makes it look weak and bland in my opinion even if you add the coat of arms its still weak souce.
Imagine if Belarus elected a leader in the 1990s who actually cared about preserving the unique Belarusian ethnicity, language and culture instead of a leader who did everything to destroy his own ethnicity by forcing ruthless Russification policies upon his own people. As result of Lukashenko's policies Belarus is currently not much more than just another Russian province.
@@bigboyman5743 Modern-day Belarusian (along with Ukrainian and a couple of other languages) devloped when the Ruthenian language split up around the 18th century. The Russian language meanwhile developed form other languages that split off from Old East Slavic around the same time as Ruthenian did. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthenian_language en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Slavic_languages en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_East_Slavic
I'm Polish-Belarusian, the Belarusian autochthonic community in Poland preserved language better than Belarusian state did, and we don't even have bilingual gov offices, only one community has bilingual street signs and in whole region there's only one bilingual highschool. It's so awesome to see local children hang out with Ukrainian refugee children speaking Polesian (the actual ethnolect of the area). I really really want bilingual signs in our region, it would be upsetting to some but for such an out of the way community being talked about will eventually bring tourists and investment.
@@pravierka South eastern Podlasie, all of Hajnówka poviatship, eastern parts of Siemiatycze, Bielsk Podlaski and Białystok poviatships. The region is split by rivers narew and narewka southern part has Polesian ethnolect, norther part Grodno dialect.
@@10hawell That's interesting. I'm doing family ancestry research on my Polish side of the family. My grandmother's father's side is from that area (NE and Eastern Poland, nearing Białystok). I wonder if that's the dialect they spoke.
@@jennifer255 Do you know the poviatship they lived in and their faith? Catholics and Protestants never assimilated into Orthodox communities and spoke Mazovian dialect of Polish. Jews and Muslims did assimilate. The rule of thumb is west of Podlasie is purely polish, north was Lithuanian but they polonized, east is Grodno dialect of Belarusian and south is Polesian.
@@10hawell Pretty sure they were all Catholic. My great-grandfather's ancestors came from along the borders of Mazowiecki and Podlaskie, or at least that's where his ancestors died in the 1800s. Other cousin matches I've found (on sites like MyHeritge) seem to be all along the Belarussian and Ukrainian border, and towards Poland as the PLC started to collapse, just that I'm not sure which side that's on. My grandmother's maternal grandfather does have Lithuanian and a possible Russian/Belarussian parent (her name may have been Ania or Anya). My 6th great-grandmother (one of the furthest branches I have in my family tree) is a Bielska, probably from Bielsk Podlaski.
Something you didn't fully touch on: The Belarusian Democratic Republic government-in-exile still exists and is the oldest government-in-exile still in existence today. They still use the old flag, and favor democratization and closer relations with the west. Thus, the white and red flag has come to signify those sentiments as well.
Well, the government-in-exile has no legitimacy, considering they were out of the country for about 100 years by this point. I mean, three generations have passed since it was exiled and the government has more influence on the countries they are based in than their home country. The opposition in Belarus has more legitimacy than them. I mean they sound like some quacks in Russia who claim the Soviet Union did not dissolve because it was illegal on a technicality or something and they pose as the "underground" Soviet government. Or a bunch of folk in Serbia claiming to be the only "National Assembly worthy of the people of Serbia".
I was nagging you for years to make a video about Belarusian flags and you finally did it! It's also worth to mention that the white-red-white flag used together with a coat of arms, which is only very slightly different from the one used by the Republic of Lithuania, as both are variations of the historical coat of arms of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. It's called _Pahonia_ in Belarusian, Vytis in Lithuanian and Pogoń in Polish. PS I agree that the life of Duzh-Dushewski is like a symbolic representation of the modern history of his nation. PPS For anyone that dismisses the white-red-white flag on the basis that it was used by the collaborators during WW2; guess what flag was used by the Russian Nazi-collaborators? The white-blue-red one that modern Russia uses.
Nobody dismisses it but even with the coat of arms its still meh at best its good that it uses a coat of arms but the white is too much and it makes it look a it weak in a way, having white on the bottom and top isnt very pleasing its like surrender flag but with ketchup on it and badge slapped on top of the ketchup
"as both are variations of the historical coat of arms of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania". You are, of course, right there, but before that it was used in belarussian lands, such as Polotsk.
Dush Dushevsky was a Tatar and not a Belarusian, who stole the Lithuanian Tatar Golden Horde flag, and just removed the Muslim crescent and made it “Belarusian”. WE ARE ORTHODOX, NOT ISLAMICS!!!
The Russian Nazi-collaborators weren't using the modern Russian flag, they had their own flag of a blue saltire on white background (like a Scottish flag but inverted), which they used on their military patches with the acronym ROA ("Russian Liberation Army"). I think there was variants of the modern flag with the patch in the center on some propaganda posters however
@@niggalini The St. Andrew's Flag that you are describing was originally the imperial naval flag (and interestingly, it is also used by the Russian Navy today). It was indeed the main flag used by the so-called Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia and the patches of ROA were based on it. If you google "Flag of ROA" or better "Флаг РОА" you'll find a lot of these variants of the modern flag with the ROA patch in the center you've mentioned (not only on posters), but also some plain tricolor flags. What's more, the ROA wasn't the only Russian collaborationist formation. Some others, like the 1st Russian National Army (aka Sonderdivision Russland) under Boris Smyslovsky or Russian Protective Corps - a formation composed of Russian emigres in Serbia, had patches based on the Russian tricolor flag.
All these years, Lukashenko had no national idea as such in Belarus. I think this is the main reason why the dislike for the official flag has grown so much in recent years. Belarusians do not feel any connection to it. Under the white-red-white flag, I mostly meet very conscious people who know the history and the Belarusian language and are even willing to sacrifice their freedom and life for it. No one is ready to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the Soviet flag. The OMON gets paid to beat people, they don't care what flag they are flying. I don't see a future for the red green flag. Lukashenko is getting old and will die soon, while young people every year want to get rid of the gulag and live a decent life. Many young people can't imagine their life under a different flag, because at school they were taught that the Soviet Union was a paradise, and the flag of The Soviet Byelorussia was the standard of vexillology. The TikTok generation really rarely sees the difference. But I have hope for our active youth, who value our cultural heritage no matter how the Soviet ghouls try to rewrite history and erase our white and red flag from our history.
I think you have an accidental mispronuciation there. Someone transliterated the Belarussian word with a "ch", but meant an English-style "ch" instead of a Slavic "ch" (i.e. "kh"), so the word should be pronounced "ruchnik" or "ruchnyik". In Czech and a few other languages, there is the term "ručník" (pronounced in almost the same way) and it denotes a piece of cloth, either a decorative part of someone's fancy/ceremonial vernacular clothing, or a smaller tablecloth or similar piece of cloth. This is what the Belarussian term is denoting as well.
It's not the only his mistake. He called dekulakization a genocide. While genocide is the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. But Kulak is a social-economic class. So he applied the word genocide wrongly.
I thought the Ch in Ruchnik was pronounced like an English Ch? This isn’t based on any knowledge of Belarusian but I thought it was cognate to the Serbian word Ručnik meaning towel, but perhaps it’s not? Maybe it’s related to Ruho, an archaic word for garb, vestments, or clothing in Serbian or has some unexpected cognate or even none at all.
@@Sfaxx You are correct, 'polotentse' is a normal, regular word. But they also use 'rušnik' to refer to those embroidered towels found in Ukraine and some southern parts of Russia.
Back in 2020, in my free time, I actually designed a new flag and even a new air force roundel for Belarus. I didn't throw away the existing designs, but actually tried to tastefully combine them (making sure the proportions and colour combinations don't clash). I've liked the results, and even one of my distant Belarussian acquaintances commended the design as genuinely nice. I was chuffed the result was so well-liked.
I figured you could make a really simple fighter roundel for the old Belarusian flag by making a small white dot surrounded by a slightly larger red one which is finally surrounded by a bigger white circle basically just the old Belarusian flag in a circle form I tried making it in text here: ⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️ ⬜️🔴🔴🔴⬜️ ⬜️🔴⬜️🔴⬜️ ⬜️🔴🔴🔴⬜️ ⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️
It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression. But if Belarusians see the flag as a sign of oppression and prefer white-red-white flag, I shall use that to symbolise Belarus instead. Love to Belarus from Bulgaria ⬜ 🟥 🤝 🇧🇬 ⬜
@@cerebrummaximus3762 it is seen like symbol of oppression by who? Real belarusians hate Nazi collaborator flag and the west want to install puppet in Belarus like they did in Ukraine. Our president don't want to have Belarus like Ukraine with neo Nazism glorification, gender education, lgbt propaganda and other degenerate western stuff
Fun fact: the red-green flag is sometimes called "The sunset over the bog", since, you know, it's red over green and is associated with soviet stagnation. Also, I'd like to add an opinion from an actual Belarusian. I was okay with the flag, my born-in-USSR parents thought it was more unique and cooler-looking, but 2020 changed everything. I personally no longer associate with this red-green flag, I don't support anyone who uses it (even though it still is the official symbol of my country) and I will never look at it with any sort of pride. My parents now despise the red-green color combination and we put a white-red-white wreath over the entrance door just to look at it and smile occasionally. Half of my friends still think of the red-green flag as theirs, the other half views it as a symbol of the soviet mindset: bleak, outdated and repressive. I don't think I'm in the majority though, as most of the society is neutral in the conflict and by default supports status quo.
It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression. But if Belarusians see the flag as a sign of oppression and prefer white-red-white flag, I shall use that to symbolise Belarus instead. Love to Belarus from Bulgaria ⬜ 🟥 🤝 🇧🇬 ⬜
@@cerebrummaximus3762 Curiously that your find combination of red and green nice. It might be our Belarusian trauma, however, I myself as many my friends and acquittance found this combination especially in the colour tones of the flag as disgusting and this is for many years even before 2020. The problem of the red-green flag is it always was and now it is even more anti-belarusian. Both BSSR (except short-lived period in1920-ies of some Belarusian Renaissance, whose moving forces (like writer, poets, architectures and so on) were repressed and many many of them were killed) and the Lukashenko's regime are against the whole idea of Belarus, its language and culture. If we dare to speak about collaborators, exactly BSSR and Lukashenko's regime are such of Russian imperialistic idea, they are both hated by themselves compromise they need to establish instead of full annexation by Russia how it was since The Commonwealth partition. So the mere idea to represent the Belarusian language/culture with the read-green flag is abomination in the eyes of belarusians who know and speak this language, create culture and grasp the history. Thank you for you understanding.
I personally prefer the version of the red and white flag that has the emblem of the knight on it: It is called the Pagonya or Pahonya I believe. Unless there is a strong historical reason for them, I find a lot of the flags that have just stripes on them to be plain boring and do not think that the world needs any more of them.
Great video, however the Belarusian government formed in 1918 was called the Belarusian Peoples Republican, and still is, as far as i can tell, the decision to call it the "Belarusian democratic Republic" is a modern idea to create a distinction and somewhat mock the Lukashenko government. And in Belarusian, the name of it still means "Belarusian Peoples Republic". Additionally, the black bars on the white red white flag were only around for a few years. Also in the 1995 referendum, there was controversy that many voters who voted yes to change the flag thought it was to change it TO the white red white flag instead of to Lukashenkos design.
@@dzimidrol475 the majority of the founding members of the BNR we're members of the Belarusian Socialist Assembly, and the decision to call it the "Belarusian Democratic republic" seems to only have happened in the past decade and as far as i can tell, this translation is exclusive to English
@@deputykirsanov7314 žamojtik, you? Belarus is catholic as much as orthodox. But the faith is irrelevant. The image of a horsemen originates somewhere in the western europe but ends being used as the coat of arms by belarusian dukes, including orthodox. Later in 1918 both belarusians and žamojtians use it for their nation states.
Good video. I'd still like to add some comment, though. The white, red, and white flag did not disappear in 1918, after the disappearance of the Belarusian People's Republic. It lived on, because Belarusians continued to use it as their ethnic flag. The western part of Belarus was controlled by Poland, there were a lot of Belarusians in Lithuania and Latvia. Those were moderately democratic countries back then, unlike the USSR, thus Belarusians who lived outside of the USSR (and there were millions of them) were free to use the white, red, and white flag as a symbol of their ethnicity, of their culture, of their language, and of their hope for better future. You could throw in a couple of pictures from those times. But overall your video is very well done. Have a like!
And also the white, red, and white flag predates the BPR by a year or so. First Belarusians started using it as their flag, and then they made it the flag of their short-lived republic in 1918.
Dang somebody forgot to mention the polification policies that poland employed in those regions which btw the soviet union gave back to both ukraine and belarus.
Perhaps a design with both would work well? With the background being white flag with a red stripe in the middle, then add the Richnik design turned horizontal and placed within the red stripe
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression. Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity. I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it. If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern. I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
As a Belarusian I'm extremely grateful for this video! I really appreciate the effort and the amount of research you've put into making this. One thing I should mention is that while Dushevsky, the creator of the white-red-white flag was against the occupants, the creator of the Soviet Belarusian flag Nikolay Gusev was actually working with the Germans during WW2. Not only that but he was painting multiple portraits for the occupants and also for adolf hitler. The White-Red-White flag is the true flag of Belarus which symbolises our fight for freedom and actual independence. Жыве Беларусь!🤍❤️🤍
My opinion on the flags as a Belarusian citizen, although I am in favor of the white-red-white flag, I will try to be unbiased. Arguments for the white-red-white flag ⚪🔴⚪: 1. It is the historical flag of the first Belarusian state. One can argue for a long time about the success of this formation, but the fact remains that without the BPR there would not have been the BSSR and modern Belarus. 2. The white-red-white flag was inspired by the historical flags of the GDL and the Rzeczpospolita, in particular, by the famous Kotwicz coat of arms. Whereas the red-green flag was invented specifically for UN membership, as the UN needed a flag, and it does not have history. 3. By the white-red-white flag we mean democracy and freedom, as well as the European past and future. Under the red-green flag, freedom is only for those who are better at licking the ass of the government. 4. There were no repressions under the white-red-white flag, unlike under the red-green flag, under which there was forced russification of Belarus and arrests for using the Belarusian language. 5. The white-red-white flag was self-sufficient and was used during the important period of the country's development of independency from 1991 to 1995. Whereas the red-green flag is used at pro-Lukashenko rallies along with the flags of the USSR, the pro-Russian NLM (National Liberation Movement) and the official flag of the Russian Federation. Also between 1951 and 1991, the red-green flag was used in very limited ways at local events. In the international arena, such as the Olympic Games, it was never used in place of the flag of the USSR. 6. Belarus, and the unrecognised puppet country of Transnistria, are the only states after the collapse of the USSR to use soviet symbols, which shows not the independence of Belarus, but as part of Russia only formally on paper having independence. 7. The author of the flag, Klawdzy Dush-Dushewsky hid a Jewish family during the occupation of BSSR, for which he was sent to a concentration camp. On the other hand, the author of the red-green flag was a collaborator and painted portraits for Hitler. And although the state media try with all their might to whitewash the red-green flag creator, by faking history and making up evidence that this is another Nikolay Gusev, or that this is his double namesake, etc. If you oppose the collaborators, doesn't it make sense to oppose everyone of them, not just those who don't fit the propaganda machine? Arguments for the red-green flag 🔴🟢: 1. Under this flag, the BSSR was able to reach the leading position in the USSR, and during the Khrushchev Thaw mass repressions were practically abolished, which however has already drastically changed after 2020. 2. Under this flag, life in the 90s has clearly improved. Of course freedom of speech and human rights practically disappeared, but it's foolish to deny that with the help of the parasitic on Russia economy Belarus started living better than in 1991-1995. 3. The red-green flag is more popular among Belarusians inside the country. The red-green flag is hardly used by the Belarusian diaspora, but things are not so rosy for the WRW flag in the country itself. According to Chatham House, even in the most active times of protest, the white-red-white flag as the national flag was favored by 34% against 41% for the red-green one. One may consider that sociology is not the safest activity in Belarus and people are simply afraid to speak out, but nevertheless, in my opinion red-green flag is more fixed in the consciousness of the Belarusians because of the propaganda against the white-red-white flag and because the red-green flag was longer time in power. 4. The white-red-white flag was used by the Belarusian Central Rada, which was a puppet government in the occupied BSSR and collaborated with the Nazi forces. Nevertheless, despite this terrible accusation, the Belarusian Central Rada had no real power under the occupation, and was mainly engaged in Belarusization and education. And the collaborationism in soviet countries during USSR times is not the same as collaboration in western countries and should not be considered unambiguous, because technically it wasn't collaborationism since USSR republics had no real nation states, and the soviet regime was as bloody as Nazi regime. In the countries occupied by the Soviet Union, where the Red fascists killed thousands of people and essentially oppressed peoples so much that they were willing to unite with the devil himself if only not to live under the Bolsheviks. Is it bad that nationalists of the countries of the occupied USSR collaborated with Hitler? Yes. Should we consider all soviet and in particular Belarusian collaboration an absolute evil for that? A difficult question, in which I am rather inclined to no. I am especially against the demonisation of the flag, since the collobarants of all countries have used national flags, after all, national flags are national flags for a reason, and are used by everyone from democrats to radicals. If anyone has anything to add, feel free to write in the comments. I would be happy to hear more arguments.
Contr arguments for zmagar propaganda 😂 1.Your bnr was not successful it was not even real. They were German dogs and when Germans left the traitors ran away from BNR and never came back. They were not interested in creation of first independent Belarus state they wanted a puppet for Germany against Russia. 2.Polish lithanian clolours have no history for Belarus. They are our enemies and always hated our people from Belarus and Russia. Zamagars want to steal history to be more against Russia, but Russia is historical more close to us then lithuania and poland. 3.democracy dont exist.under Belarus we have a prosperity country but red and white only wants promote lgbt and trans. You'll have democracy like in the west they fire you from your job if you don't like lgbt. 4.there is no repression in Belarus stop lying please. My country hate traitors who want western cia coup against my country. In America they arrested protesters in Capitoliy but you don't say something about this case. Because western countries can arrest people but Belarus can't because hypocrisy. We no have russification, we always speak Russian because its our real language. Belarusian language is fake and we reject it because it's not natural and artificial. BNR clowns created this language with polish words to be more far from Russia, but their plan failed because 100% Belarussians speak Russian and even zmagars can't speak good belarussian and in real life they speak Russian 😂😂 5.along with the white red white toilet paper radical extremist protesters use lgbt flag, EU flag, the ukraine flag. not so very self sufficient?😂😂 6.We have this flag not because we are Russia but because 90% belorussians voted for this flag against red white nazi rag on referendum in 95. It was fair because everyone wanted to change the nazi flag. 7.gusev was punished by soviet union in 1945 and left prison only in 1951 after he finished his punishment. He was clean when he created our flag. but he wasn't be a collaborator, he needed money to feed his children and only draw portraits. but red white collaborators burnt our villages and killed jews people. red white flag = collaborators and traitors. You don't make objective analys why our flag is better than nazi flag. 1.punishment of traitors is not repressions. If they want to express opinion we don't harm then, but if they want a coup and riots then we will attack them. But in europe it's also like this, little kid.😅 2.our economy is not parasitic, we have very integrated economy in Russia because we can't survive without russian help. We have import and export but not so high like Russia but we are not useless for Russia, we need each other to help economy. 3.stupid zmagars in poland think in belarussia people love white red white flag hahah, no we only like our real flag. Ask real belarussians and they tell you only our real flag 🇧🇾 4.nazi apologizer. hatyn was burned by the ukrainian and red white belarus traitor nazis and many other villages. All red white kills against our people will not be forgiven never. 😤
@@issintf925 Maybe. But I can't take seriously what people say about the beauty of the soviet flag. It was the flag under which people were tortured and beaten in police vans that drove through my city everyday catching passersby. I despise the red-green flag, and I'm sure that in the future, when Lukash dies, it will be changed. I'm sure Germans hate the Third Reich flag just as much because of the horrors the nazis brought and nothing can make them love that flag even by force
@@husbanana Yeah, I totally support people who dont like what these flags stand for. I was never making an argument otherwise. All I am saying is that the flags are "aesthetically pleasing"
I prefer the White, red white flag, not just because of its historical context but because the red, green, and white flag is too complex. A good flag should be easily drawn by any school child.
Its not too complex it has 2 maun colours and 1 secondary with the unique pattern which actually represents something from the countries culture being painted in the one of the main colours its not distracting or confusing.
@@Me-yq1fl and not like the ,,muh democratic true flag" it actually represents something from the nations culture thats the pattern used in traditional cloths, carpets and so on.
These are merely guidelines, and taking them as gospel will lock you out of pretty great flag designs because they don't obey 1 or 2 rules of vexillology.
I like how everybody here is like ,,muh democracy will fix anything" while the balkans and the world in general are a sheer representation of that not being the truth
@@nafanarefour4564 the right to elect the one who will be their leader huh to lead them where ? To the abyss ? Becuase that has been happening here for 30 years. Right now the democratic system has never ever looked more pathetic. In my nation we have already had like 4 elections and we are likely on our 5th in the course of a few months. Fricking italian governments last longer than ours. It all sounds very nice as a concept but in reality its a nightmare of corruption. Not only that but because the multi party system is so great and such a fantastic idea the people are more divided than ever before.
Nikolai Gusev, the creator of the red-green flag of the BSSR (the current Belarusian also) was a collaborator with the nazis. During the World War 2, in addition to private orders (portraits of officers of Nazi Germany), he created a portrait of Radasłaŭ Astroŭski, President of the Belarusian Central Council (1944), as well as the largest portrait of Hitler (1943), which was hung on holidays in occupied Minsk.
Please stop this. Nikolay gusev had family to feed he had no choice. He only draw portraits but not help nazis. He was punished and was in soviet prison for 6 years till 1951 when he as a clean person created our flag. He repelled his sins for past.
@@cherrywave9050 what is your point, troll? Your argument only further enhances the absurdity of your propaganda. Propagandists curse the national flag because it was unofficially used by some collaborationists (official symbols in occupied Byelorussia were only symbols of the 3rd Reich), while you justify the man who OFFICIALLY created this flag and even spent 6 years in Soviet imprisonment for collaboration with the Germans.
Moscow´s Genocide of Belarusian nation. Terrifying reading, sorry for using straight forward google translate : "After World War II, the 10-million-strong Belarus lost about 3 million of its inhabitants, but about 2 million were killed even before the war by the communist NKVD. In Belarus, 70 percent of all Belarusian writers were physically destroyed, scientists and artists were killed. (The troupe of the Third Belarusian State Theater of Vladislav Golubok was arrested in full force. Almost all of them were shot.) They were killed on ethnic grounds. For this, the label "natsdem" was invented (it means - a national democrat, although such a party did not exist). This label was stuck to all Belarusians whom the Stalinists planned to destroy. In the depths of the NKVD, a non-existent anti-communist organization SVB ("Union of Liberation of Belarus") was invented. Under an invented phantom, the NKVADists carried out arrests, conducted an imaginary investigation, interrogated, tortured, tried, then exiled to Russia and shot innocent people. After the Riga Agreement in 1921, Belarus was divided between Poland and Russia. The division border was drawn not far from Mensk. There was a secret order from the NKVD to destroy the entire Belarusian population along the border. The Russian auxiliaries wanted to create a deserted area here. The destruction was carried out by the border troops. The trustees were given a rifle and a shovel. When such a border guard soldier met in a deserted place (on the road, in a field, in a forest) a lonely Belarusian or Belarusian, or a child, he would shoot a person, immediately dig a hole with a shovel and fill up the corpse. That was the instruction. The people in the villages were not so afraid of the "man with the gun" as they were the soldier with the shovel. (These facts were published in the Belarusian press in the early 90s.) In the 30s, 95-99 percent (almost completely) was destroyed (exiled and shot) the Belarusian communist-party and Soviet administration. Even the directorate and business leaders were destroyed. Russians from Russia were sent to the posts of murdered administrators and communist leaders-Belarusians. Russians (the so-called "promoted") came to Belarus, occupied vacated positions, received benefits, property, apartments, and the first thing they did was to close Belarusian schools, translate them into Russian so that their children could study without burdening themselves with studying , as they said, “unnecessary” Belarusian language. Thus, the invaders created a "Russian-speaking population" in Belarus. Ethnocide, linguacide, mnemacid and genocide were carried out by the Bolsheviks at the same time. The extermination of Belarusians by the Russian NKVD continued during the German augmentation as well. In June 1941, in the first days of the war, the communists shot thousands of prisoners in prisons and in stages. Only in the Brest Fortress, where there was a terrible NKVD prison, they did not have time to liquidate all those arrested, some of them fled. Meanwhile, a large group of NKVD overseers and functionaries were blocked in the fortress by the Germans. They sat there for about a month until they died out. About 20 years after the war, the communists came up with a legend about the "heroic defense" of the Brest Fortress.Attention is drawn to the fact that the broad Soviet partisan movement was organized only in Belarus and partially on the ethnic Belarusian lands that were part of Russia (Smolensk region, Bryansk region). There was no partisan movement in occupied Russia. Why? Because the plan for the destruction of the Belarusian nation continued to operate. Moscow, using the organs of the NKVD, dragged the masses of the Belarusian civilian population into the war against the Germans, and thereby exposed the Belarusians to the German attack. The necessary work of the struggle proceeded from an insidious plan and was carried out by vile methods. (Stalin wanted to get a double benefit.) Enkavadists specifically killed a German near a Belarusian village or made another provocation in order to cause a punitive operation of the Nazis (who usually burned the whole village, most often together with people). Thus, by the way, as a result of a special provocation of the Soviet partisans, the famous Khatyn was also burned, which the communists later advertised to the whole world in the 70s as a typical victim of fascist atrocities. As a result of this communist-fascist joint "work", more than 9 thousand villages were burned in Belarus. Moscow did not trust the Belarusians. Therefore, by the end of the war, as a result of a special operation of the NKVD, many Belarusian commanders were sent to death, removed from command, killed and repressed. Their places were taken by Russians sent from Muscovy and loyal NKVADists. In the summer of 1944, when the "Red Army" occupied Belarus, the Russians mobilized into the army on Belarusian territory. Tens of thousands of young Belarusian men, almost without preparation, were thrown into the front line of the front. Russian commanders raised them into unnecessary attacks under the fire of German machine guns, without even giving weapons in hand, or with rifles, but no cartridges. They died in thousands, like grass under a scythe. And those that fled back, fell under the bullets of the NKVD"
It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression. But if Belarusians see the flag as a sign of oppression and prefer white-red-white flag, I shall use that to symbolise Belarua instead. Love to Belarus from Bulgaria ⬜ 🟥 🤝 🇧🇬 ⬜
It's not about the flag's symbolism, but what the flag symbolizes. The red-green one is the symbol of rule under ussr and under Lukashenko. The white-red-white flag is a symbol for national self governance and revolution. And the emblem on the flag, sometimes displayed, is a sign of being a part of the Great duchy of Lithuania and relationships with western world.
@@norude But that's the problem, don't you realise how petty that is? Any day, Lukashenko can say "hmm the people look angry at me today, let's switch to this other flag so they can be tricked into chilling out" and can change the flag to the white-red-white flag. What happens if Lukashenko decides to change the flag to the white-red-white one? (which he certainly can do if he feels a need for morale boost) Will you start hating that flag too? At least the red-green shows an array of cultural symbols. If you do include the crest on the white-red-white flag, why would you want to be associated with being under another rule? Don't you want independence?
@cerebrummaximus3762 I am a belarussian myself and live in Minsk (capital). And you are completely out of touch. Lukashenko will not switch the flag.Displaying ⬜🟥⬜ will literally get you in jail here. I would know, because my mom is in jail for this exact reason. It is considered to be "extremist" to show it. Lukashenko publicly dunked on this flag during the protests of 2020. Which were sparked after the results of the election of august 9 2020 in which the dictator got 80% of the votes. There was an online counting of the election where people had to prove their ballot to vote and Lukashenko got 3% of the votes. At the voting sites people admitted to changing the results and often no observers were allowed. Also the internet was heavily slowed down and opposition's websites were blocked After the results came people started protesting by just walking in big groups on roads, letting an occasional car through them, with tens of thousands of people total, displaying the ⬜🟥⬜ flag. There was absolutely no violence for about 2 days and then the OMON came. (Which is basically an armed police force) OMON started blocking the way and kidnapping people who strayed from the group. A similar gathering was organized by the government and around a hundred people with red-green flags stood and waived them. On a concert here DJ's put on "мы не народец" by "tor band" Translated lyrics here: "We are not cattle, a herd and cowards, we are a living people, we are Belarusians! With faith in our hearts, we keep the order, banner of freedom over your head! Something's wrong, something's wrong something broke in our heads. The soul is very empty, faith is broken, around only the stench, of any size. The cesspool is full to overflowing, well-fed and stupid, you are waiting for an order, when they tell you to beat your people, so wished the sick puppeteer. I believe, I believe, I believe... We are not cattle, a herd and cowards, we are a living people, we are Belarusians! With faith in our hearts, we keep the order, banner of freedom over your head! Where is our conscience? Has it been sold? I'm afraid my answer will be very banal. We began to be cowardly, afraid, tremble, we were taught to knock again. And if a little something: “My hut is on the edge, I didn’t see it, I didn’t hear it, I don’t know for sure!” That's what a moral freak does but not the native Belarusian people. I believe, I believe, I believe... We are not cattle, a herd and cowards, we are a living people, we are Belarusians! With faith in our hearts, we keep the order, banner of freedom over your head! We are not cattle, a herd and cowards, we are a living people, we are Belarusians! With faith in our hearts, we keep the order, banner of freedom over your head! We are not cattle, a herd and cowards, we are a living people, we are Belarusians! With faith in our hearts, we keep the order, banner of freedom over your head!" The DJs are now in jail. There is a lot of videos of protests, just type "2020 бчб протесты" in RUclips and you will see a lot of videos After this for Lukashenko to change the flag is to admit election fraud, human rights violations and most importantly defeat. Жыве Беларусь!
@@cerebrummaximus3762Why would he do that? His Red-Green flag literally symbolises his vision for Belarus and his understanding of it's history. To reject the flag HE himself gave to the country in favour of the flag used by the opposition and the two existing Belarusian goverments in-exile (the 1919 Rada and 2020 Tikhanovskaya's Coordination Council) not to mention the official flag of the country before he came to power would be the dumbest decision he ever made, as it would de-legitimise himself and his rule.
@@cerebrummaximus3762As for the GDL and Vytis/Pahonia coat of arms for many Belarusians it is an important part of their history. Not to mention, Belarus and Belarusians became were an important part of the GDL, so much that instead of forcing them to speak Lithuanian, the Grand Dutchy switched the main language to Ruthenian. Today, many Belarusian nationalists have even adopted an alternative history view that they are the "real" Lithuanians (read "Litvinism" in Wikipedia)
I've been seeing this Masterworks company advertised by more and more RUclipsrs and it seems like a fucking scam to me. At least established titles was only getting people to waste like $50 this seems like it could actually be dangerous
Hello Hilbert. I have not, to my knowledge, met a person from Belarus, despite most of my neighbours being Eastern European as a kid. Your description of how the last century saw people there treated may be the reason it seems so insular. It seems wrong to suggest a flag for another country, but I do like the traditional style edging and reckon it would look good with the red band in the style of a Scandinavian cross, thinking of the history.
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression. Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity. I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it. If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern. I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
According to Kushner, in the 1930s, only 26 Belarusian academicians and 6 correspondent members of the Belarusian Science Academy were unaffected by repressions. Of 139 PhD students (aspirants) in Belarus as of 1934, only six people escaped execution during the repressions. According to Kushner, the Soviet repressions virtually stopped any humanities research in Belarus.[5] According to the Belarusian-Swedish historian Andrej Kotljarchuk, in the 1930s the Soviets either physically exterminated or banned from further research 32 historians from Minsk with their works being also excluded from libraries. According to Kotljarchuk, the Soviet (Moscow) authorities thereby physically destroyed the Belarusian school of history studies of that time.
According to this guy according to thats guy, you know i am kinda tired of such ,,true" ,,honest" and ,,credible" historians. Its like that butthurt polish ethnographer who tried to push this pseudo scientific theory that russians are not slavs. Historians who dont have bias do exist they have always existed but there were many who portrayed things as they pleased
@@Silver_Prussiannot true, the Grand Duchy of Moscow was a Nordic state, the only Russians who are Slavs are those that were conquered and enslaved by the Muscovites
@@Silver_Prussian muscovy was a pretender Kievan princedom. not a true one. It was a frontier fort that decided to call itself a princedom under the rule of the khan after the confusion of the mongol invasion and used that pretext to conquer its former comrades and subject them to mongol slavery.
@@princekyros uhh no it was already a big city by the time the mongols invaded after the mongols stated to fall apart all of the other principalities had the same idea as muscovy, unite the rus again but under their own new rule, muscovy just happend to be the strongest amongst the competition, its autocracy and strength still proved to be success where the other weak principalities such as novgorod failed and got beaten
I really like the ruchnik - it makes the flag unique, and even though it's too complex to draw from memory (a vexillological characteristic of flag quality) the flag is recognizable with any white on red pattern
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression. Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity. I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it. If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern. I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
Belarusians have such a beautiful own language and such a beautiful historical flag I will never understand how they could ever choose to become another Russian region.
I am from Belarus. I personally more like new flag. And we spoke russian more than belarusian since USSR or even Russian Empire. And Lukashenko is not a bad guy everyone there thinks he is
As a belarusian, i prefer the red-green flag. I mean, the only purpose of a flag is to just float in the wind and represent the country. The ruchnik flag is the most original out of them, like literally, no offense but the oppresion flag is literally a poland-lithuania whatever this thing is. Our country is welcoming just like its people, the ruchnik is a very neat and unique thing to have on your flag that represents the peace, while the white red white flag is yet another war flag. I didn't mean to harm anyone with this comment, I only stated my opinion. Да сустрэчы.
They should put the patterning on the white-red-white flag tbh. Flags (especially European ones) are too plain and boring in my opinion and it would make them unique
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression. Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity. I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it. If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern. I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
For me, the white-red-white flag seems to imply that the Belarusians are not an independent nation, but part of Poland. After all, we were not considered a nation back then. Red-green at least somehow implies that Belarusians can go their own way, independently (just imagine) from Russia or Poland, despite the legacy of the USSR and the tyranny of Lukashenko. And the white-red-white flag is just fucking boring, at least put Pahonia on it.
White Red White flag does look a lot like the Polish flag, but the Red Green one is just straight up the old Soviet flag without a hammer and sickle, implying that Belarus is just a Russian puppet state.
it's actually pronounced "Rutchnik" And nazis used national flags with all collaborants - for ex. in Russia and Ukraine they used flags that's official flags of theses countries now Awesome video, thanks!
true fact.I love how indian fanboys of lukashenko cries about our national flag in the comments, but their indian flag for example was used by the Azad Indian Legion
we WILL bring our national 🏳❤🏳FLAG BACK ! Moscow horde´s war record :- 1856 defeated by Britain and France 1905 defeated by Japan 1917 defeated by Germany 1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states 1939 defeated by Finland 1969 defeated by China 1989 defeated by Afghanistan 1989 defeated in the Cold War. 1996 defeated by Chechnya 2022 defeated by Ukraine WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :- a) Hungary 1956 b) Czechoslovakia 1968 c) Moldova 1992 d) Georgia 2008
Describing the fate of the First Belarusian Republic as a "partition" is a gross simplification at best. The fledgling state was quickly annexed by the Soviet Union which then continued on their march to spread international communism into Poland. Poland, after defeating the Soviets, extended their border eastwards, encompassing a large amount of territory with Polish, or mixed Polish-Belarusian settlement as well as a swathe of rural Belarusian land. Only the Polesian Voivodeship was majority Belarusian and even then the city of Brest was populated mostly with Poles and Jews.
@@hybridarmyoffreeworld You dont realise it but up untill the mobilisation ukraine has had a massive number advantege f 3 to 1 and still wasn't able to beat the russians . Now they are at their 7th wave of mobilisation how much can they endure ? How many men will they waste before quiting ?
It seems the alleged use of the white and red flag by n. c0 ll ab o rators during WW2 was just convenient excuse for Lukashenko to get rid of it as that flag was used as the national symbol of Belarus long before WW2.
To be honest even if you dont agree/like Lukashenko at all. You have to at least say that this flag is so much better than the ugly red striped one. The current flag, pagonya flag or just a mix of the old Belarussian flag and the current are much better alternatives.
Very nice video for people, who don't know nothing about Belarus. Thank u. But there r some rude mistake, please, let me correct. 1. Rušnik must be read in English as rushník 2. Belarusian (there is only one S, not Russian, no sound sh, b'elarusian) 3. Klaŭdzi Duž-Dušeŭski must be read as Kláudi Duzh-Dushéuski. This information was useful even for me, belarusian guy. Please, next time try to check information not to make mistakes.
@@husbanana in Russian there no word rušnik. Rušnik is belarusian word. I'm native speaker of belarusian, Ukrainian and Russian languages, please don't teach me.
@@МіхасьПрозараў You're a bad native speaker then if you don't know that there's no word рушнік/rušnik in the Belarusian language. We spell it ручнік/ručnik
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression. Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity. I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it. If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern. I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
As a Belarusian, I hate the current flag and want to return the white-red-white flag. and I also hate Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union equally, and I also hate the current government and Russia.
Even if the older flag undeniably has an endearing history with its creator being a true portent and kinda a father to modern Belarus nevertheless the struggle of Matrona Markevich and her Ruchnik design which is of course a callback to Belarus culture and identity(plus I do love the green part of the actual flag) makes it all the more difficult to choose between them. But like the Ruchnik too much not to defend its presence on the flag, perphaps creating a third flag altogether? One that preserves the Matrona's work and doesn't remind us of both the colaborationists(and yes the first Belarus state which is good news, not playing dirty with that detail for this statement) under Nazi Germany or of Soviet oppression and Imperialism.
It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression. But if Belarusians see the flag as a sign of oppression and prefer white-red-white flag, I shall use that to symbolise Belarus instead. Love to Belarus from Bulgaria ⬜ 🟥 🤝 🇧🇬 ⬜
For me the WRW flag is not only the correct one (I don't believe in referendum 1996 results) but it's a symbol of being against everything I despise - this war, the alliance with Russia in this war, this "president" with no moral and zero empathy for his own people, his unlimited power-hunger and ability to destroy everything that's in his way to achieve it and everyone who thinks it's the way our country should be. P.S. I started reading Remark. The history repeats itself it seems.
@@markener4316 you obviously have no idea of what you're talking about, you don't get that he's trolling you. Any nation needs strong leadership. In the west you have dictatorship of corporations, you're slaves of your banks and neoliberal ideology propaganda, where doctors can butcher kids changing their sex, you cannot question common sense. I grew up in Belarus in a small town, got great free university education, healthcare, safety on the streets, no hypocrisy and small talk relationships. I lived in Europe and Canada, I laughed at your freedoms, I don't care how you name it, just keep it to yourselves, stop imposing your decadence on others.
@@yuliasergeevna2310 You know i am not in the U.s.a right? But i do agree *THAT* kind of "freedom" Is absolute bullshit. It is at least forced in a way where if you are smart you can avoid it. At leadt for now in germany, and allthough i dislike some of the politics in your goverment, i do agree most of them there are better then here. To be honest what i meant by you guys being free was that you guys could do what was the best interest of the belerausian people, not be forced to follow Russia's interest blindly by force, but hell i do agree with you a lot there.
@@markener4316 that's nice to know. Good also that you're able to think for yourself and not in labels, judging by mass media in Europe you really are presented with only one perspective on the events. Yes, we did make our choice to stand with Russia, as hardly any country can afford now to be neutral. Even Finland and Sweden lost their precious neutrality and aligned with NATO, which will end Finland's prosperous times. As for us, we have been living for decades under sanctions, as the 'free world' always doesn't like the choices we make and punishes people by destroying our economy under the sauce of helping our people to be free. The choice is obvious for us. As for events in Ukraine it's not so black and white, this war started 8 years ago, and since Europe didn't manage to help end it, that's the only choice Russia had to stop Kiev regime killing people in Donbass. It's a long story, you can check out the Duran channel if interested to keep up with reality. It's sad that Germany is under US occupation, that's done intentionally to prevent you from cooperation with Russia, that's what uncle Sam fears the most. Good luck with everything, God keep you safe!
Admit it: The current flag looks cooler and more unique than the bland old one. People only hate the current flag because of it's association with Lukashenko.
I don't think so. Simple doesn't always mean bad. This combination of white and red colours looks very good better than in Austrian flag. Association is very important but I prefer the old flag visually anyway, even though I don't hate the current one. And it's deaper than pro-Lukashenko or anti-Lukashenko. It's a choice whether Belarussians prefer heritage of Grand Duchy of Lithuania or the Soviet Union. As a Pole I'm obviously biased towards the first option.
@@simkelacasa Then they don't know shit. GDL was started by modern Lithuania but in time most of it's land and population was Belarussian. The official language was ruthenian (proto-belarussian). They definitely deserve GDL's heritage.
@@simkelacasa most of the GDL's territories belong to modern day Belarus. Lithuania is definitely a GDL successor, but so is Belarus - if only its goverment was a little bit wiser.
The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact 1940. Belarus/Byelorussia/White Russia would be doubled in area as the Soviets would take the eastern half of Poland - never returning it.
I'm sorry but the "evil" Belarusian flag is way better than the pro democratic one. If the regime changes I really hope they keep the flag, it's one of the good European flags (which is rare on the continent)
I think that this flag will be changed, because there are almost no people in Belarus who would like to fight for this flag at all. It is considered by most people to be a symbol because people got used to it and believe that countries should have a flag, but it symbolizes almost nothing, only the times of the USSR. Also, all the good things that were associated with this flag in the past were simply washed away by Lukashenko's actions in recent years. He did everything possible to ensure that his government and this flag were considered a single entity.
Hey history with hilbert can you make a video explaining on who are the Wagner group. Recently there has been a reported video of them killing a Russian mercenary with a sledgehammer and also the EU parliament was recently sent a bloody sledgehammer by the group themselves. Also apparently the U.S is considering designating them a terrorist organization so it would be interesting to hear about your thoughts on the group and an explanation about it as well.
I think Belarus could create a new flag. I'd take the historical White-Red-White flag, and use the ornament Ruchnik (which perfectly represents the belarussian culture) from a current one, but put it horizontal - instead of red line
@@olowrohek9540 у нас все говорят на русском. На искусственном белорусском говорят только змагары, но они его используют только для общения в своих гомо тусовочках, а в жизни используют русский. Старики почти асе говорят на трасянке. Трасянка - это южнорусский диалект с появившимися некоторыми полонизмами после оккупации поляками.
Right and red looks better And I'm just gonna say it So too does the orange white and blue south african flag as opposed to what they have now It looks tacky and somewhat more undemocratic than the older one
@@rockyhd5gangxd784 The white-red-white flag = fascism, nazi collaboration and genocide Those Nazi collaborators and their German overlords love the old anthem and their "methods" in Reichskommissariat Ostland that they barbarically massacred 25% of the population of Belarus!
I don't think so. Soviet vexillology sucked. They just took red and added green at the bottom because all the other colors were taken.This is the ugliest color combination you can think of, especially considering it has nothing to do with our culture. All this ugliness is only saved by the beautiful ornamentation.
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression. Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity. I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it. If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern. I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
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IT DIDN´T , WE STILL USE IT, AND ONCE LOO OUR OF THIS THRONE OR MOSCOW EMPIRE collapses we bring our national 🏳❤🏳FLAG BACK !
8:19 looks like a British Army Regimental Flash
Could you cite your sources for all of this please.
Thanks from Belarus Hilbert fam ❤️
edit:i know ch is pronounced/x/ in polish but in this case(ruchnik) it is pronounced /tʃ/
I used the old Belarusian flag in a video about Slavic Languages and got a lot of complaints. The only people who weren't complaining however were actual Belarusians themselves, it's funny that....
I'm not surprised at all. All my friends and acquaintances who liked the red-green flag changed their opinion about it when Lukashenko ordered it to be hung everywhere, including on police trucks where citizens who were just passing by were brutally beaten. I believe that the red-green flag still dominates the self-concept of most Belarusians, especially among the undereducated rural population who do not have access to the Internet, but seeing with my own eyes how many of us came out under the white-red-white flag, I am absolutely sure that young people have chosen to use it over the soviet one.
Nice seeing you here
@@Pofer hey, I recognize you too! Great seeing you here also
Yeah like 2 or 3 of them just becuase only a few didnt complained doesnt mean they represent the whole nation
@@vladblch3630 the white and red flags looks boring and the white on both the bottom and the top makes it look weak and bland in my opinion even if you add the coat of arms its still weak souce.
Imagine if Belarus elected a leader in the 1990s who actually cared about preserving the unique Belarusian ethnicity, language and culture instead of a leader who did everything to destroy his own ethnicity by forcing ruthless Russification policies upon his own people. As result of Lukashenko's policies Belarus is currently not much more than just another Russian province.
@@bigboyman5743 Well, well, well... We have a self-taught linguist here.
@@bigboyman5743 Not really. It's a separate language.
@@bigboyman5743 you are disrespecting my nation by saying that. please remove yourself
@@bigboyman5743 "it uses cyrilic so it must be just like Russian!!! :DDD"
@@bigboyman5743 Modern-day Belarusian (along with Ukrainian and a couple of other languages) devloped when the Ruthenian language split up around the 18th century. The Russian language meanwhile developed form other languages that split off from Old East Slavic around the same time as Ruthenian did.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthenian_language
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Slavic_languages
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_East_Slavic
I'm Polish-Belarusian, the Belarusian autochthonic community in Poland preserved language better than Belarusian state did, and we don't even have bilingual gov offices, only one community has bilingual street signs and in whole region there's only one bilingual highschool.
It's so awesome to see local children hang out with Ukrainian refugee children speaking Polesian (the actual ethnolect of the area).
I really really want bilingual signs in our region, it would be upsetting to some but for such an out of the way community being talked about will eventually bring tourists and investment.
Вітаю, хацеў бы запытаць, а дзе знаходзіцца вашая беларуска-моўная суполка? У якім горадзе, вёсцы? Бо сам знахаджуся ў польшчы, мо заехаў бы калісьці.
@@pravierka South eastern Podlasie, all of Hajnówka poviatship, eastern parts of Siemiatycze, Bielsk Podlaski and Białystok poviatships. The region is split by rivers narew and narewka southern part has Polesian ethnolect, norther part Grodno dialect.
@@10hawell That's interesting. I'm doing family ancestry research on my Polish side of the family. My grandmother's father's side is from that area (NE and Eastern Poland, nearing Białystok). I wonder if that's the dialect they spoke.
@@jennifer255 Do you know the poviatship they lived in and their faith?
Catholics and Protestants never assimilated into Orthodox communities and spoke Mazovian dialect of Polish. Jews and Muslims did assimilate.
The rule of thumb is west of Podlasie is purely polish, north was Lithuanian but they polonized, east is Grodno dialect of Belarusian and south is Polesian.
@@10hawell Pretty sure they were all Catholic. My great-grandfather's ancestors came from along the borders of Mazowiecki and Podlaskie, or at least that's where his ancestors died in the 1800s. Other cousin matches I've found (on sites like MyHeritge) seem to be all along the Belarussian and Ukrainian border, and towards Poland as the PLC started to collapse, just that I'm not sure which side that's on. My grandmother's maternal grandfather does have Lithuanian and a possible Russian/Belarussian parent (her name may have been Ania or Anya). My 6th great-grandmother (one of the furthest branches I have in my family tree) is a Bielska, probably from Bielsk Podlaski.
Something you didn't fully touch on: The Belarusian Democratic Republic government-in-exile still exists and is the oldest government-in-exile still in existence today. They still use the old flag, and favor democratization and closer relations with the west. Thus, the white and red flag has come to signify those sentiments as well.
So they are cucks and traitors basicaly
where are they in exile?
@@pletskoo514 In the West.
Well, the government-in-exile has no legitimacy, considering they were out of the country for about 100 years by this point.
I mean, three generations have passed since it was exiled and the government has more influence on the countries they are based in than their home country. The opposition in Belarus has more legitimacy than them.
I mean they sound like some quacks in Russia who claim the Soviet Union did not dissolve because it was illegal on a technicality or something and they pose as the "underground" Soviet government. Or a bunch of folk in Serbia claiming to be the only "National Assembly worthy of the people of Serbia".
@@pletskoo514 I think Toronto, but I’m not so sure.
I was nagging you for years to make a video about Belarusian flags and you finally did it!
It's also worth to mention that the white-red-white flag used together with a coat of arms, which is only very slightly different from the one used by the Republic of Lithuania, as both are variations of the historical coat of arms of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. It's called _Pahonia_ in Belarusian, Vytis in Lithuanian and Pogoń in Polish.
PS I agree that the life of Duzh-Dushewski is like a symbolic representation of the modern history of his nation.
PPS For anyone that dismisses the white-red-white flag on the basis that it was used by the collaborators during WW2; guess what flag was used by the Russian Nazi-collaborators? The white-blue-red one that modern Russia uses.
Nobody dismisses it but even with the coat of arms its still meh at best its good that it uses a coat of arms but the white is too much and it makes it look a it weak in a way, having white on the bottom and top isnt very pleasing its like surrender flag but with ketchup on it and badge slapped on top of the ketchup
"as both are variations of the historical coat of arms of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania". You are, of course, right there, but before that it was used in belarussian lands, such as Polotsk.
Dush Dushevsky was a Tatar and not a Belarusian, who stole the Lithuanian Tatar Golden Horde flag, and just removed the Muslim crescent and made it “Belarusian”. WE ARE ORTHODOX, NOT ISLAMICS!!!
The Russian Nazi-collaborators weren't using the modern Russian flag, they had their own flag of a blue saltire on white background (like a Scottish flag but inverted), which they used on their military patches with the acronym ROA ("Russian Liberation Army"). I think there was variants of the modern flag with the patch in the center on some propaganda posters however
@@niggalini The St. Andrew's Flag that you are describing was originally the imperial naval flag (and interestingly, it is also used by the Russian Navy today). It was indeed the main flag used by the so-called Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia and the patches of ROA were based on it. If you google "Flag of ROA" or better "Флаг РОА" you'll find a lot of these variants of the modern flag with the ROA patch in the center you've mentioned (not only on posters), but also some plain tricolor flags.
What's more, the ROA wasn't the only Russian collaborationist formation. Some others, like the 1st Russian National Army (aka Sonderdivision Russland) under Boris Smyslovsky or Russian Protective Corps - a formation composed of Russian emigres in Serbia, had patches based on the Russian tricolor flag.
All these years, Lukashenko had no national idea as such in Belarus. I think this is the main reason why the dislike for the official flag has grown so much in recent years. Belarusians do not feel any connection to it. Under the white-red-white flag, I mostly meet very conscious people who know the history and the Belarusian language and are even willing to sacrifice their freedom and life for it. No one is ready to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the Soviet flag. The OMON gets paid to beat people, they don't care what flag they are flying. I don't see a future for the red green flag. Lukashenko is getting old and will die soon, while young people every year want to get rid of the gulag and live a decent life. Many young people can't imagine their life under a different flag, because at school they were taught that the Soviet Union was a paradise, and the flag of The Soviet Byelorussia was the standard of vexillology. The TikTok generation really rarely sees the difference. But I have hope for our active youth, who value our cultural heritage no matter how the Soviet ghouls try to rewrite history and erase our white and red flag from our history.
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I think you have an accidental mispronuciation there. Someone transliterated the Belarussian word with a "ch", but meant an English-style "ch" instead of a Slavic "ch" (i.e. "kh"), so the word should be pronounced "ruchnik" or "ruchnyik". In Czech and a few other languages, there is the term "ručník" (pronounced in almost the same way) and it denotes a piece of cloth, either a decorative part of someone's fancy/ceremonial vernacular clothing, or a smaller tablecloth or similar piece of cloth. This is what the Belarussian term is denoting as well.
it’s actually more like “rushnik” with a stress on “i” :)
It's not the only his mistake. He called dekulakization a genocide. While genocide is the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. But Kulak is a social-economic class. So he applied the word genocide wrongly.
Right, he read the word ruchnik supposing its written in the belarusian language, but it was written in english. In Belarusian it is written ručnik.
@@Name-t9fbd no, it's 'rušnik' in Belarusian Latin
I thought the Ch in Ruchnik was pronounced like an English Ch? This isn’t based on any knowledge of Belarusian but I thought it was cognate to the Serbian word Ručnik meaning towel, but perhaps it’s not? Maybe it’s related to Ruho, an archaic word for garb, vestments, or clothing in Serbian or has some unexpected cognate or even none at all.
Yes, it is ručnik, and it means towel.
@@Whiteruthenian Nope, It is rušnik, but yeah, it means towel)
@@karszunowicz The word 'rušnik' exist in Russian, but in Belarusian it is 'ručnik'. Check your dictionaries.
@@Whiteruthenian is it in ru? They call ther towels "polotentse", while it's Ukrainians who use word "rušnyk" in daily life
@@Sfaxx You are correct, 'polotentse' is a normal, regular word. But they also use 'rušnik' to refer to those embroidered towels found in Ukraine and some southern parts of Russia.
Back in 2020, in my free time, I actually designed a new flag and even a new air force roundel for Belarus. I didn't throw away the existing designs, but actually tried to tastefully combine them (making sure the proportions and colour combinations don't clash). I've liked the results, and even one of my distant Belarussian acquaintances commended the design as genuinely nice. I was chuffed the result was so well-liked.
I figured you could make a really simple fighter roundel for the old Belarusian flag by making a small white dot surrounded by a slightly larger red one which is finally surrounded by a bigger white circle basically just the old Belarusian flag in a circle form
I tried making it in text here:
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Finaly a more artistic and not narrow minded person
It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression.
But if Belarusians see the flag as a sign of oppression and prefer white-red-white flag, I shall use that to symbolise Belarus instead.
Love to Belarus from Bulgaria
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@@cerebrummaximus3762 it is seen like symbol of oppression by who? Real belarusians hate Nazi collaborator flag and the west want to install puppet in Belarus like they did in Ukraine. Our president don't want to have Belarus like Ukraine with neo Nazism glorification, gender education, lgbt propaganda and other degenerate western stuff
Fun fact: the red-green flag is sometimes called "The sunset over the bog", since, you know, it's red over green and is associated with soviet stagnation.
Also, I'd like to add an opinion from an actual Belarusian. I was okay with the flag, my born-in-USSR parents thought it was more unique and cooler-looking, but 2020 changed everything. I personally no longer associate with this red-green flag, I don't support anyone who uses it (even though it still is the official symbol of my country) and I will never look at it with any sort of pride. My parents now despise the red-green color combination and we put a white-red-white wreath over the entrance door just to look at it and smile occasionally. Half of my friends still think of the red-green flag as theirs, the other half views it as a symbol of the soviet mindset: bleak, outdated and repressive. I don't think I'm in the majority though, as most of the society is neutral in the conflict and by default supports status quo.
It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression.
But if Belarusians see the flag as a sign of oppression and prefer white-red-white flag, I shall use that to symbolise Belarus instead.
Love to Belarus from Bulgaria
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@@cerebrummaximus3762 Curiously that your find combination of red and green nice. It might be our Belarusian trauma, however, I myself as many my friends and acquittance found this combination especially in the colour tones of the flag as disgusting and this is for many years even before 2020. The problem of the red-green flag is it always was and now it is even more anti-belarusian. Both BSSR (except short-lived period in1920-ies of some Belarusian Renaissance, whose moving forces (like writer, poets, architectures and so on) were repressed and many many of them were killed) and the Lukashenko's regime are against the whole idea of Belarus, its language and culture. If we dare to speak about collaborators, exactly BSSR and Lukashenko's regime are such of Russian imperialistic idea, they are both hated by themselves compromise they need to establish instead of full annexation by Russia how it was since The Commonwealth partition. So the mere idea to represent the Belarusian language/culture with the read-green flag is abomination in the eyes of belarusians who know and speak this language, create culture and grasp the history.
Thank you for you understanding.
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I personally prefer the version of the red and white flag that has the emblem of the knight on it: It is called the Pagonya or Pahonya I believe. Unless there is a strong historical reason for them, I find a lot of the flags that have just stripes on them to be plain boring and do not think that the world needs any more of them.
Need to remove the mustache from the knight on Pagonia!
Great video, however the Belarusian government formed in 1918 was called the Belarusian Peoples Republican, and still is, as far as i can tell, the decision to call it the "Belarusian democratic Republic" is a modern idea to create a distinction and somewhat mock the Lukashenko government. And in Belarusian, the name of it still means "Belarusian Peoples Republic". Additionally, the black bars on the white red white flag were only around for a few years.
Also in the 1995 referendum, there was controversy that many voters who voted yes to change the flag thought it was to change it TO the white red white flag instead of to Lukashenkos design.
No, it’s because using the word “People’s” might create an association with socialism, and BNR was never a socialist/communist government.
@@dzimidrol475 the majority of the founding members of the BNR we're members of the Belarusian Socialist Assembly, and the decision to call it the "Belarusian Democratic republic" seems to only have happened in the past decade and as far as i can tell, this translation is exclusive to English
75% Belarus people voted against white red white flag. We chose the real flag of Belarus and you should to shut up now zmagar
@dzimidrol475 It was socialist and there is nothing bad in this. Not enough socialist for bolsheviks tho))
i like the white red white, especially if it has the knight crest on it, it looks badass
The knight should have his mustache removed, because I have bad associations with it.
100% the Knight crest looks so good on the white-red-White flag
It’s Catholic and Lithuanian in origin. Belarus is orthodox. Pogonia doesn’t fit Belarus
Reverse austria
@@deputykirsanov7314 žamojtik, you? Belarus is catholic as much as orthodox. But the faith is irrelevant. The image of a horsemen originates somewhere in the western europe but ends being used as the coat of arms by belarusian dukes, including orthodox. Later in 1918 both belarusians and žamojtians use it for their nation states.
Good video. I'd still like to add some comment, though. The white, red, and white flag did not disappear in 1918, after the disappearance of the Belarusian People's Republic. It lived on, because Belarusians continued to use it as their ethnic flag. The western part of Belarus was controlled by Poland, there were a lot of Belarusians in Lithuania and Latvia. Those were moderately democratic countries back then, unlike the USSR, thus Belarusians who lived outside of the USSR (and there were millions of them) were free to use the white, red, and white flag as a symbol of their ethnicity, of their culture, of their language, and of their hope for better future. You could throw in a couple of pictures from those times. But overall your video is very well done. Have a like!
And also the white, red, and white flag predates the BPR by a year or so. First Belarusians started using it as their flag, and then they made it the flag of their short-lived republic in 1918.
Dang somebody forgot to mention the polification policies that poland employed in those regions which btw the soviet union gave back to both ukraine and belarus.
@@Silver_Prussian I can't hear you over the sounds of the russification policies m8
@@shiveringsheo3253 like what ?
Wow you cant accept the fact that any nation can be close to russia ?
@@Silver_Prussian if being culturally and demographically genocided is considered "close to russia" then no nation or people should be close to russia
Hopefully Belarus is freed sooner than later. 🙏
lukashenko is the only man capable of ruling belarus, while the opposition "leaders" funded by george soros, run away out of cowardice
@@bigboyman5743 Then pick someone not funded by Soros.
@911wasdonebybush The Cross of Jerusalem. ✝️
@911wasdonebybush As it was intended. It was their home, and is once again. So it is written. 🙏
Freed ? Ahh yes ofcourse the west will ,,free" it
Perhaps a design with both would work well?
With the background being white flag with a red stripe in the middle, then add the Richnik design turned horizontal and placed within the red stripe
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression.
Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity.
I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it.
If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern.
I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
Thanks for the video! Information is good, i'd tell more about GDL time though)
Greetings from Estonia
As a Belarusian I'm extremely grateful for this video! I really appreciate the effort and the amount of research you've put into making this.
One thing I should mention is that while Dushevsky, the creator of the white-red-white flag was against the occupants, the creator of the Soviet Belarusian flag Nikolay Gusev was actually working with the Germans during WW2. Not only that but he was painting multiple portraits for the occupants and also for adolf hitler.
The White-Red-White flag is the true flag of Belarus which symbolises our fight for freedom and actual independence.
Жыве Беларусь!🤍❤️🤍
Жыве вечна!
Greetings from Kazakhstan! ❤️🤍❤️🇰🇿
Беларусь живёт 🇧🇾🇧🇾❤️ без змагаров и прочей нечести 🇧🇾
@@cherrywave9050 як скажаце 😂
Thank you for a very interesting story about the Belarusian flag.greetings from Belarus Жыве Беларусь✌️⬜🟥⬜
Попрыгай от радости, змагар
Прокладка 💩💩💩
Why are Belarusians so rude?
My opinion on the flags as a Belarusian citizen, although I am in favor of the white-red-white flag, I will try to be unbiased.
Arguments for the white-red-white flag ⚪🔴⚪:
1. It is the historical flag of the first Belarusian state. One can argue for a long time about the success of this formation, but the fact remains that without the BPR there would not have been the BSSR and modern Belarus.
2. The white-red-white flag was inspired by the historical flags of the GDL and the Rzeczpospolita, in particular, by the famous Kotwicz coat of arms. Whereas the red-green flag was invented specifically for UN membership, as the UN needed a flag, and it does not have history.
3. By the white-red-white flag we mean democracy and freedom, as well as the European past and future. Under the red-green flag, freedom is only for those who are better at licking the ass of the government.
4. There were no repressions under the white-red-white flag, unlike under the red-green flag, under which there was forced russification of Belarus and arrests for using the Belarusian language.
5. The white-red-white flag was self-sufficient and was used during the important period of the country's development of independency from 1991 to 1995. Whereas the red-green flag is used at pro-Lukashenko rallies along with the flags of the USSR, the pro-Russian NLM (National Liberation Movement) and the official flag of the Russian Federation. Also between 1951 and 1991, the red-green flag was used in very limited ways at local events. In the international arena, such as the Olympic Games, it was never used in place of the flag of the USSR.
6. Belarus, and the unrecognised puppet country of Transnistria, are the only states after the collapse of the USSR to use soviet symbols, which shows not the independence of Belarus, but as part of Russia only formally on paper having independence.
7. The author of the flag, Klawdzy Dush-Dushewsky hid a Jewish family during the occupation of BSSR, for which he was sent to a concentration camp. On the other hand, the author of the red-green flag was a collaborator and painted portraits for Hitler. And although the state media try with all their might to whitewash the red-green flag creator, by faking history and making up evidence that this is another Nikolay Gusev, or that this is his double namesake, etc. If you oppose the collaborators, doesn't it make sense to oppose everyone of them, not just those who don't fit the propaganda machine?
Arguments for the red-green flag 🔴🟢:
1. Under this flag, the BSSR was able to reach the leading position in the USSR, and during the Khrushchev Thaw mass repressions were practically abolished, which however has already drastically changed after 2020.
2. Under this flag, life in the 90s has clearly improved. Of course freedom of speech and human rights practically disappeared, but it's foolish to deny that with the help of the parasitic on Russia economy Belarus started living better than in 1991-1995.
3. The red-green flag is more popular among Belarusians inside the country. The red-green flag is hardly used by the Belarusian diaspora, but things are not so rosy for the WRW flag in the country itself. According to Chatham House, even in the most active times of protest, the white-red-white flag as the national flag was favored by 34% against 41% for the red-green one. One may consider that sociology is not the safest activity in Belarus and people are simply afraid to speak out, but nevertheless, in my opinion red-green flag is more fixed in the consciousness of the Belarusians because of the propaganda against the white-red-white flag and because the red-green flag was longer time in power.
4. The white-red-white flag was used by the Belarusian Central Rada, which was a puppet government in the occupied BSSR and collaborated with the Nazi forces. Nevertheless, despite this terrible accusation, the Belarusian Central Rada had no real power under the occupation, and was mainly engaged in Belarusization and education. And the collaborationism in soviet countries during USSR times is not the same as collaboration in western countries and should not be considered unambiguous, because technically it wasn't collaborationism since USSR republics had no real nation states, and the soviet regime was as bloody as Nazi regime. In the countries occupied by the Soviet Union, where the Red fascists killed thousands of people and essentially oppressed peoples so much that they were willing to unite with the devil himself if only not to live under the Bolsheviks. Is it bad that nationalists of the countries of the occupied USSR collaborated with Hitler? Yes. Should we consider all soviet and in particular Belarusian collaboration an absolute evil for that? A difficult question, in which I am rather inclined to no. I am especially against the demonisation of the flag, since the collobarants of all countries have used national flags, after all, national flags are national flags for a reason, and are used by everyone from democrats to radicals.
If anyone has anything to add, feel free to write in the comments. I would be happy to hear more arguments.
Contr arguments for zmagar propaganda 😂
1.Your bnr was not successful it was not even real. They were German dogs and when Germans left the traitors ran away from BNR and never came back. They were not interested in creation of first independent Belarus state they wanted a puppet for Germany against Russia.
2.Polish lithanian clolours have no history for Belarus. They are our enemies and always hated our people from Belarus and Russia. Zamagars want to steal history to be more against Russia, but Russia is historical more close to us then lithuania and poland.
3.democracy dont exist.under Belarus we have a prosperity country but red and white only wants promote lgbt and trans. You'll have democracy like in the west they fire you from your job if you don't like lgbt.
4.there is no repression in Belarus stop lying please. My country hate traitors who want western cia coup against my country. In America they arrested protesters in Capitoliy but you don't say something about this case. Because western countries can arrest people but Belarus can't because hypocrisy. We no have russification, we always speak Russian because its our real language. Belarusian language is fake and we reject it because it's not natural and artificial. BNR clowns created this language with polish words to be more far from Russia, but their plan failed because 100% Belarussians speak Russian and even zmagars can't speak good belarussian and in real life they speak Russian 😂😂
5.along with the white red white toilet paper radical extremist protesters use lgbt flag, EU flag, the ukraine flag. not so very self sufficient?😂😂
6.We have this flag not because we are Russia but because 90% belorussians voted for this flag against red white nazi rag on referendum in 95. It was fair because everyone wanted to change the nazi flag.
7.gusev was punished by soviet union in 1945 and left prison only in 1951 after he finished his punishment. He was clean when he created our flag. but he wasn't be a collaborator, he needed money to feed his children and only draw portraits. but red white collaborators burnt our villages and killed jews people. red white flag = collaborators and traitors.
You don't make objective analys why our flag is better than nazi flag.
1.punishment of traitors is not repressions. If they want to express opinion we don't harm then, but if they want a coup and riots then we will attack them. But in europe it's also like this, little kid.😅
2.our economy is not parasitic, we have very integrated economy in Russia because we can't survive without russian help. We have import and export but not so high like Russia but we are not useless for Russia, we need each other to help economy.
3.stupid zmagars in poland think in belarussia people love white red white flag hahah, no we only like our real flag. Ask real belarussians and they tell you only our real flag 🇧🇾
4.nazi apologizer. hatyn was burned by the ukrainian and red white belarus traitor nazis and many other villages. All red white kills against our people will not be forgiven never. 😤
Unlike the government of Belarus, the Belarus flag is actually quite nice in my opinion.
they should definetly add the pattern onto the white-red-white belarussian flag, it's just so unique!
Unlike the government of The Third Reich, the The Third Reich flag is actually quite nice in my opinion.
@@husbanana The imperial german design of the second Reich flag is really aesthetically pleasing as well with the black and white cross
@@issintf925 Maybe. But I can't take seriously what people say about the beauty of the soviet flag. It was the flag under which people were tortured and beaten in police vans that drove through my city everyday catching passersby. I despise the red-green flag, and I'm sure that in the future, when Lukash dies, it will be changed. I'm sure Germans hate the Third Reich flag just as much because of the horrors the nazis brought and nothing can make them love that flag even by force
@@husbanana Yeah, I totally support people who dont like what these flags stand for. I was never making an argument otherwise. All I am saying is that the flags are "aesthetically pleasing"
The old flag is definitely better.
I prefer the White, red white flag, not just because of its historical context but because the red, green, and white flag is too complex. A good flag should be easily drawn by any school child.
@@Me-yq1fl stop disrespecting our flag and giving some arguments for fascist dictatorship who killed, tortured and raped plenty of people since 1994
It sure isa flag for school children
Its not too complex it has 2 maun colours and 1 secondary with the unique pattern which actually represents something from the countries culture being painted in the one of the main colours its not distracting or confusing.
@@Me-yq1fl and not like the ,,muh democratic true flag" it actually represents something from the nations culture thats the pattern used in traditional cloths, carpets and so on.
These are merely guidelines, and taking them as gospel will lock you out of pretty great flag designs because they don't obey 1 or 2 rules of vexillology.
I prefer the old one much more. I hope Belarus will become a democracy again and it will become the national flag once more.
I like how everybody here is like ,,muh democracy will fix anything" while the balkans and the world in general are a sheer representation of that not being the truth
@@Silver_Prussian nobody is saying it will fix everything, but actual democracy gives the people a right to elect their leader
@@nafanarefour4564 the right to elect the one who will be their leader huh to lead them where ? To the abyss ? Becuase that has been happening here for 30 years. Right now the democratic system has never ever looked more pathetic. In my nation we have already had like 4 elections and we are likely on our 5th in the course of a few months. Fricking italian governments last longer than ours.
It all sounds very nice as a concept but in reality its a nightmare of corruption. Not only that but because the multi party system is so great and such a fantastic idea the people are more divided than ever before.
in latvia, at our national library ( Latvijas Nacionālā Bibliotēka ) we have the "Free Belarussian" flag there, along with the Latvian flag
@@manlikeilyas please, write "Belarusian", we ar not Bela Russia, we are Bela Rus'(It's very important)
Nikolai Gusev, the creator of the red-green flag of the BSSR (the current Belarusian also) was a collaborator with the nazis. During the World War 2, in addition to private orders (portraits of officers of Nazi Germany), he created a portrait of Radasłaŭ Astroŭski, President of the Belarusian Central Council (1944), as well as the largest portrait of Hitler (1943), which was hung on holidays in occupied Minsk.
Please stop this. Nikolay gusev had family to feed he had no choice. He only draw portraits but not help nazis. He was punished and was in soviet prison for 6 years till 1951 when he as a clean person created our flag. He repelled his sins for past.
@@cherrywave9050 what is your point, troll? Your argument only further enhances the absurdity of your propaganda. Propagandists curse the national flag because it was unofficially used by some collaborationists (official symbols in occupied Byelorussia were only symbols of the 3rd Reich), while you justify the man who OFFICIALLY created this flag and even spent 6 years in Soviet imprisonment for collaboration with the Germans.
Belarus is one of the strangest countries that exists.
sounds somewhat disrespectful for me as Belarusian
@@aname5695 It is smth we must be proud of
Moscow´s Genocide of Belarusian nation. Terrifying reading, sorry for using straight forward google translate : "After World War II, the 10-million-strong Belarus lost about 3 million of its inhabitants, but about 2 million were killed even before the war by the communist NKVD. In Belarus, 70 percent of all Belarusian writers were physically destroyed, scientists and artists were killed. (The troupe of the Third Belarusian State Theater of Vladislav Golubok was arrested in full force. Almost all of them were shot.) They were killed on ethnic grounds. For this, the label "natsdem" was invented (it means - a national democrat, although such a party did not exist). This label was stuck to all Belarusians whom the Stalinists planned to destroy. In the depths of the NKVD, a non-existent anti-communist organization SVB ("Union of Liberation of Belarus") was invented. Under an invented phantom, the NKVADists carried out arrests, conducted an imaginary investigation, interrogated, tortured, tried, then exiled to Russia and shot innocent people. After the Riga Agreement in 1921, Belarus was divided between Poland and Russia. The division border was drawn not far from Mensk. There was a secret order from the NKVD to destroy the entire Belarusian population along the border. The Russian auxiliaries wanted to create a deserted area here. The destruction was carried out by the border troops. The trustees were given a rifle and a shovel. When such a border guard soldier met in a deserted place (on the road, in a field, in a forest) a lonely Belarusian or Belarusian, or a child, he would shoot a person, immediately dig a hole with a shovel and fill up the corpse.
That was the instruction. The people in the villages were not so afraid of the "man with the gun" as they were the soldier with the shovel. (These facts were published in the Belarusian press in the early 90s.) In the 30s, 95-99 percent (almost completely) was destroyed (exiled and shot) the Belarusian communist-party and Soviet administration. Even the directorate and business leaders were destroyed. Russians from Russia were sent to the posts of murdered administrators and communist leaders-Belarusians. Russians (the so-called "promoted") came to Belarus, occupied vacated positions, received benefits, property, apartments, and the first thing they did was to close Belarusian schools, translate them into Russian so that their children could study without burdening themselves with studying , as they said, “unnecessary” Belarusian language. Thus, the invaders created a "Russian-speaking population" in Belarus. Ethnocide, linguacide, mnemacid and genocide were carried out by the Bolsheviks at the same time.
The extermination of Belarusians by the Russian NKVD continued during the German augmentation as well. In June 1941, in the first days of the war, the communists shot thousands of prisoners in prisons and in stages. Only in the Brest Fortress, where there was a terrible NKVD prison, they did not have time to liquidate all those arrested, some of them fled. Meanwhile, a large group of NKVD overseers and functionaries were blocked in the fortress by the Germans. They sat there for about a month until they died out. About 20 years after the war, the communists came up with a legend about the "heroic defense" of the Brest Fortress.Attention is drawn to the fact that the broad Soviet partisan movement was organized only in Belarus and partially on the ethnic Belarusian lands that were part of Russia (Smolensk region, Bryansk region). There was no partisan movement in occupied Russia. Why? Because the plan for the destruction of the Belarusian nation continued to operate. Moscow, using the organs of the NKVD, dragged the masses of the Belarusian civilian population into the war against the Germans, and thereby exposed the Belarusians to the German attack.
The necessary work of the struggle proceeded from an insidious plan and was carried out by vile methods. (Stalin wanted to get a double benefit.) Enkavadists specifically killed a German near a Belarusian village or made another provocation in order to cause a punitive operation of the Nazis (who usually burned the whole village, most often together with people). Thus, by the way, as a result of a special provocation of the Soviet partisans, the famous Khatyn was also burned, which the communists later advertised to the whole world in the 70s as a typical victim of fascist atrocities.
As a result of this communist-fascist joint "work", more than 9 thousand villages were burned in Belarus. Moscow did not trust the Belarusians. Therefore, by the end of the war, as a result of a special operation of the NKVD, many Belarusian commanders were sent to death, removed from command, killed and repressed. Their places were taken by Russians sent from Muscovy and loyal NKVADists. In the summer of 1944, when the "Red Army" occupied Belarus, the Russians mobilized into the army on Belarusian territory. Tens of thousands of young Belarusian men, almost without preparation, were thrown into the front line of the front. Russian commanders raised them into unnecessary attacks under the fire of German machine guns, without even giving weapons in hand, or with rifles, but no cartridges. They died in thousands, like grass under a scythe. And those that fled back, fell under the bullets of the NKVD"
**cough-cough Belgium**
how is getting a country for your nation strange? Lukashenko is very strange however, I'll give you that.
It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression.
But if Belarusians see the flag as a sign of oppression and prefer white-red-white flag, I shall use that to symbolise Belarua instead.
Love to Belarus from Bulgaria
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It's not about the flag's symbolism, but what the flag symbolizes. The red-green one is the symbol of rule under ussr and under Lukashenko. The white-red-white flag is a symbol for national self governance and revolution. And the emblem on the flag, sometimes displayed, is a sign of being a part of the Great duchy of Lithuania and relationships with western world.
@@norude But that's the problem, don't you realise how petty that is?
Any day, Lukashenko can say "hmm the people look angry at me today, let's switch to this other flag so they can be tricked into chilling out" and can change the flag to the white-red-white flag.
What happens if Lukashenko decides to change the flag to the white-red-white one? (which he certainly can do if he feels a need for morale boost) Will you start hating that flag too?
At least the red-green shows an array of cultural symbols.
If you do include the crest on the white-red-white flag, why would you want to be associated with being under another rule? Don't you want independence?
@cerebrummaximus3762 I am a belarussian myself and live in Minsk (capital). And you are completely out of touch. Lukashenko will not switch the flag.Displaying ⬜🟥⬜ will literally get you in jail here. I would know, because my mom is in jail for this exact reason. It is considered to be "extremist" to show it. Lukashenko publicly dunked on this flag during the protests of 2020. Which were sparked after the results of the election of august 9 2020 in which the dictator got 80% of the votes. There was an online counting of the election where people had to prove their ballot to vote and Lukashenko got 3% of the votes. At the voting sites people admitted to changing the results and often no observers were allowed.
Also the internet was heavily slowed down and opposition's websites were blocked
After the results came people started protesting by just walking in big groups on roads, letting an occasional car through them, with tens of thousands of people total, displaying the ⬜🟥⬜ flag. There was absolutely no violence for about 2 days and then the OMON came. (Which is basically an armed police force) OMON started blocking the way and kidnapping people who strayed from the group. A similar gathering was organized by the government and around a hundred people with red-green flags stood and waived them. On a concert here DJ's put on "мы не народец" by "tor band" Translated lyrics here:
"We are not cattle, a herd and cowards,
we are a living people, we are Belarusians!
With faith in our hearts, we keep the order,
banner of freedom over your head!
Something's wrong, something's wrong
something broke in our heads.
The soul is very empty, faith is broken,
around only the stench, of any size.
The cesspool is full to overflowing,
well-fed and stupid, you are waiting for an order,
when they tell you to beat your people,
so wished the sick puppeteer.
I believe, I believe, I believe...
We are not cattle, a herd and cowards,
we are a living people, we are Belarusians!
With faith in our hearts, we keep the order,
banner of freedom over your head!
Where is our conscience? Has it been sold?
I'm afraid my answer will be very banal.
We began to be cowardly, afraid, tremble,
we were taught to knock again.
And if a little something: “My hut is on the edge,
I didn’t see it, I didn’t hear it, I don’t know for sure!”
That's what a moral freak does
but not the native Belarusian people.
I believe, I believe, I believe...
We are not cattle, a herd and cowards,
we are a living people, we are Belarusians!
With faith in our hearts, we keep the order,
banner of freedom over your head!
We are not cattle, a herd and cowards,
we are a living people, we are Belarusians!
With faith in our hearts, we keep the order,
banner of freedom over your head!
We are not cattle, a herd and cowards,
we are a living people, we are Belarusians!
With faith in our hearts, we keep the order,
banner of freedom over your head!"
The DJs are now in jail.
There is a lot of videos of protests, just type
"2020 бчб протесты" in RUclips and you will see a lot of videos
After this for Lukashenko to change the flag is to admit election fraud, human rights violations and most importantly defeat.
Жыве Беларусь!
@@cerebrummaximus3762Why would he do that? His Red-Green flag literally symbolises his vision for Belarus and his understanding of it's history.
To reject the flag HE himself gave to the country in favour of the flag used by the opposition and the two existing Belarusian goverments in-exile (the 1919 Rada and 2020 Tikhanovskaya's Coordination Council) not to mention the official flag of the country before he came to power would be the dumbest decision he ever made, as it would de-legitimise himself and his rule.
@@cerebrummaximus3762As for the GDL and Vytis/Pahonia coat of arms for many Belarusians it is an important part of their history.
Not to mention, Belarus and Belarusians became were an important part of the GDL, so much that instead of forcing them to speak Lithuanian, the Grand Dutchy switched the main language to Ruthenian.
Today, many Belarusian nationalists have even adopted an alternative history view that they are the "real" Lithuanians (read "Litvinism" in Wikipedia)
I've been seeing this Masterworks company advertised by more and more RUclipsrs and it seems like a fucking scam to me. At least established titles was only getting people to waste like $50 this seems like it could actually be dangerous
I like old Belarus flag⚪🔴⚪
You mean
⚪️
🔴
⚪️
💀
😡
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@@Nah_Bohdiyou
I am from Belaru and I prefer 🇧🇾
U hv a bad taste
Please make a video about the history of English flags!
very solid video
Hello Hilbert. I have not, to my knowledge, met a person from Belarus, despite most of my neighbours being Eastern European as a kid.
Your description of how the last century saw people there treated may be the reason it seems so insular.
It seems wrong to suggest a flag for another country, but I do like the traditional style edging and reckon it would look good with the red band in the style of a Scandinavian cross, thinking of the history.
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression.
Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity.
I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it.
If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern.
I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
According to Kushner, in the 1930s, only 26 Belarusian academicians and 6 correspondent members of the Belarusian Science Academy were unaffected by repressions. Of 139 PhD students (aspirants) in Belarus as of 1934, only six people escaped execution during the repressions. According to Kushner, the Soviet repressions virtually stopped any humanities research in Belarus.[5]
According to the Belarusian-Swedish historian Andrej Kotljarchuk, in the 1930s the Soviets either physically exterminated or banned from further research 32 historians from Minsk with their works being also excluded from libraries. According to Kotljarchuk, the Soviet (Moscow) authorities thereby physically destroyed the Belarusian school of history studies of that time.
According to this guy according to thats guy, you know i am kinda tired of such ,,true" ,,honest" and ,,credible" historians. Its like that butthurt polish ethnographer who tried to push this pseudo scientific theory that russians are not slavs.
Historians who dont have bias do exist they have always existed but there were many who portrayed things as they pleased
@@Silver_Prussiannot true, the Grand Duchy of Moscow was a Nordic state, the only Russians who are Slavs are those that were conquered and enslaved by the Muscovites
@@xp7575 muscovy was part of the kievan rus you big dum dum it was a principality like the rest of the states within the kievan rus
@@Silver_Prussian muscovy was a pretender Kievan princedom. not a true one. It was a frontier fort that decided to call itself a princedom under the rule of the khan after the confusion of the mongol invasion and used that pretext to conquer its former comrades and subject them to mongol slavery.
@@princekyros uhh no it was already a big city by the time the mongols invaded after the mongols stated to fall apart all of the other principalities had the same idea as muscovy, unite the rus again but under their own new rule, muscovy just happend to be the strongest amongst the competition, its autocracy and strength still proved to be success where the other weak principalities such as novgorod failed and got beaten
I really like the ruchnik - it makes the flag unique, and even though it's too complex to draw from memory (a vexillological characteristic of flag quality) the flag is recognizable with any white on red pattern
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression.
Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity.
I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it.
If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern.
I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
Use 🤍❤🤍, with the emblem, "Pohonia", in the middle.
It's quite simple
Belarusians have such a beautiful own language and such a beautiful historical flag I will never understand how they could ever choose to become another Russian region.
У нас союзное государство с русскими братьями 🇧🇾🇷🇺 и не пидорам 🏳️🌈 с запада нас поучать с кем дружить 😂😂😂
I am from Belarus. I personally more like new flag. And we spoke russian more than belarusian since USSR or even Russian Empire. And Lukashenko is not a bad guy everyone there thinks he is
As a belarusian, i prefer the red-green flag.
I mean, the only purpose of a flag is to just float in the wind and represent the country.
The ruchnik flag is the most original out of them, like literally, no offense but the oppresion flag is literally a poland-lithuania whatever this thing is.
Our country is welcoming just like its people, the ruchnik is a very neat and unique thing to have on your flag that represents the peace, while the white red white flag is yet another war flag.
I didn't mean to harm anyone with this comment, I only stated my opinion.
Да сустрэчы.
🇧🇾🇧🇾🇧🇾❤❤❤
Жыве Беларусь!
Живёт и будет жить, не переживайте.
Жуе белы гусь!
Because the newer one looks sick 🔥
not really. Ornament pattern looks cool, but the design is kind of meh
Very interesting
They should put the patterning on the white-red-white flag tbh. Flags (especially European ones) are too plain and boring in my opinion and it would make them unique
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression.
Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity.
I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it.
If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern.
I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
I hope that one day our white-red-white flag will proudly represent Belarus again.
For me, the white-red-white flag seems to imply that the Belarusians are not an independent nation, but part of Poland. After all, we were not considered a nation back then. Red-green at least somehow implies that Belarusians can go their own way, independently (just imagine) from Russia or Poland, despite the legacy of the USSR and the tyranny of Lukashenko. And the white-red-white flag is just fucking boring, at least put Pahonia on it.
You are dumb, . Red-green fans are acting like Belarus did not exist prior 1945. By rejecting RWR flag you are rejecting your history.
White Red White flag does look a lot like the Polish flag, but the Red Green one is just straight up the old Soviet flag without a hammer and sickle, implying that Belarus is just a Russian puppet state.
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it's actually pronounced "Rutchnik"
And nazis used national flags with all collaborants - for ex. in Russia and Ukraine they used flags that's official flags of theses countries now
Awesome video, thanks!
true fact.I love how indian fanboys of lukashenko cries about our national flag in the comments, but their indian flag for example was used by the Azad Indian Legion
My life is complete now that I know about the flag of Belarus
4:00 and a swedish COA in the middle, the Vasa one
Yeah, the design most often presented as the "flag of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth" is actually the royal banner of Sigismund III Vasa.
In 2010, Belarus updated their flag to have darker Red and Green.
As a Belarusian "ruchnik" is a towel, this thing is called "krijavanka" what means "cross thing" or smth
we WILL bring our national 🏳❤🏳FLAG BACK ! Moscow horde´s war record :-
1856 defeated by Britain and France
1905 defeated by Japan
1917 defeated by Germany
1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states
1939 defeated by Finland
1969 defeated by China
1989 defeated by Afghanistan
1989 defeated in the Cold War.
1996 defeated by Chechnya
2022 defeated by Ukraine
WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn
Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-
a) Hungary 1956
b) Czechoslovakia 1968
c) Moldova 1992
d) Georgia 2008
Жыве Беларусь!
Жыве вєечна!
I deeply hope you guys will succeed. Best wishes from Poland!
Ukraine flag in pfp, opinion discarded
@@chungus8812Cringe meme as name, opinion discarded.
Bro what are those accounts spamming the same emojis and saying the same things with equally ret*rded pfp and names
Kulaks were land-owners not landless peasants.
Really nice video! I'm actually belarrusian, really well explained😎
Slava Ukraina!
slava rossiya, bitch
@@okokokaync shut up russian in your country they show fake news💀
@@okokokaync even your allies hate you god damn 😭
Describing the fate of the First Belarusian Republic as a "partition" is a gross simplification at best. The fledgling state was quickly annexed by the Soviet Union which then continued on their march to spread international communism into Poland. Poland, after defeating the Soviets, extended their border eastwards, encompassing a large amount of territory with Polish, or mixed Polish-Belarusian settlement as well as a swathe of rural Belarusian land. Only the Polesian Voivodeship was majority Belarusian and even then the city of Brest was populated mostly with Poles and Jews.
9:30 The video link isn't in the description.
IT DIDN´T , WE STILL USE IT, AND ONCE LOO OUR OF THIS THRONE OR MOSCOW EMPIRE collapses we bring our national 🏳❤🏳FLAG BACK !
You probably dont even live in belarus
@@Silver_Prussian парсюкі адрынскія , дзякуй Богу што я Літвін!
@@hybridarmyoffreeworld You are not even belorusian and you speak like you represent the whole nation.
@@Silver_Prussian "We lost nothing."
"Also, I declare mobilisation."
-Vladolf Pootler
@@hybridarmyoffreeworld You dont realise it but up untill the mobilisation ukraine has had a massive number advantege f 3 to 1 and still wasn't able to beat the russians . Now they are at their 7th wave of mobilisation how much can they endure ? How many men will they waste before quiting ?
It seems the alleged use of the white and red flag by n. c0 ll ab o rators during WW2 was just convenient excuse for Lukashenko to get rid of it as that flag was used as the national symbol of Belarus long before WW2.
Exactly my friend. He is a communist in all possible means, killing, torturing people, disrespecting nation
pretty much
The current flag is super Ugly in my opinion
The country itself is ugly
Yeah
To be honest even if you dont agree/like Lukashenko at all. You have to at least say that this flag is so much better than the ugly red striped one. The current flag, pagonya flag or just a mix of the old Belarussian flag and the current are much better alternatives.
Very nice video for people, who don't know nothing about Belarus. Thank u.
But there r some rude mistake, please, let me correct.
1. Rušnik must be read in English as rushník
2. Belarusian (there is only one S, not Russian, no sound sh, b'elarusian)
3. Klaŭdzi Duž-Dušeŭski must be read as Kláudi Duzh-Dushéuski.
This information was useful even for me, belarusian guy. Please, next time try to check information not to make mistakes.
Rušnik is in russian. In Belarusian it's ručnik
@@husbanana in Russian there no word rušnik. Rušnik is belarusian word. I'm native speaker of belarusian, Ukrainian and Russian languages, please don't teach me.
@@МіхасьПрозараў You're a bad native speaker then if you don't know that there's no word рушнік/rušnik in the Belarusian language. We spell it ручнік/ručnik
new flag of balerus looks like a carpet lol
It is funny how people try to draw the ornament on this flag as simple as possible
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression.
Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity.
I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it.
If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern.
I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
Saw you in TUS chat
Was watching the stream for the football ;)
As a Belarusian, I hate the current flag and want to return the white-red-white flag. and I also hate Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union equally, and I also hate the current government and Russia.
haters will always hate
Even if the older flag undeniably has an endearing history with its creator being a true portent and kinda a father to modern Belarus nevertheless the struggle of Matrona Markevich and her Ruchnik design which is of course a callback to Belarus culture and identity(plus I do love the green part of the actual flag) makes it all the more difficult to choose between them.
But like the Ruchnik too much not to defend its presence on the flag, perphaps creating a third flag altogether? One that preserves the Matrona's work and doesn't remind us of both the colaborationists(and yes the first Belarus state which is good news, not playing dirty with that detail for this statement) under Nazi Germany or of Soviet oppression and Imperialism.
It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression.
But if Belarusians see the flag as a sign of oppression and prefer white-red-white flag, I shall use that to symbolise Belarus instead.
Love to Belarus from Bulgaria
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🟥 🤝 🇧🇬
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Btw you spell it “Belarusian” not “Belarussian”
Belarusian indeed. Our country is not related to any other existing one.
Belaruthenian
*You pronounce the word BELARUSIAN incorrectly. That's all I have to say. They are not Russians!*
For me the WRW flag is not only the correct one (I don't believe in referendum 1996 results) but it's a symbol of being against everything I despise - this war, the alliance with Russia in this war, this "president" with no moral and zero empathy for his own people, his unlimited power-hunger and ability to destroy everything that's in his way to achieve it and everyone who thinks it's the way our country should be.
P.S. I started reading Remark. The history repeats itself it seems.
Это наш флаг 🇧🇾🇧🇾🇧🇾 и нам плевать что ты думаешь
Man do i wish the belerausians were free...
we are free 😄, man I wish yankees and europeans were free
@@markener4316 you obviously have no idea of what you're talking about, you don't get that he's trolling you. Any nation needs strong leadership. In the west you have dictatorship of corporations, you're slaves of your banks and neoliberal ideology propaganda, where doctors can butcher kids changing their sex, you cannot question common sense. I grew up in Belarus in a small town, got great free university education, healthcare, safety on the streets, no hypocrisy and small talk relationships. I lived in Europe and Canada, I laughed at your freedoms, I don't care how you name it, just keep it to yourselves, stop imposing your decadence on others.
@@yuliasergeevna2310 You know i am not in the U.s.a right?
But i do agree *THAT* kind of "freedom" Is absolute bullshit.
It is at least forced in a way where if you are smart you can avoid it. At leadt for now in germany, and allthough i dislike some of the politics in your goverment, i do agree most of them there are better then here.
To be honest what i meant by you guys being free was that you guys could do what was the best interest of the belerausian people, not be forced to follow Russia's interest blindly by force, but hell i do agree with you a lot there.
@@yuliasergeevna2310 also who said i Was even 18? I don't have a bank account *SO I AM NOT IN CRIPILING DEBT :DDD!*
For now :(
@@markener4316 that's nice to know. Good also that you're able to think for yourself and not in labels, judging by mass media in Europe you really are presented with only one perspective on the events. Yes, we did make our choice to stand with Russia, as hardly any country can afford now to be neutral. Even Finland and Sweden lost their precious neutrality and aligned with NATO, which will end Finland's prosperous times. As for us, we have been living for decades under sanctions, as the 'free world' always doesn't like the choices we make and punishes people by destroying our economy under the sauce of helping our people to be free. The choice is obvious for us. As for events in Ukraine it's not so black and white, this war started 8 years ago, and since Europe didn't manage to help end it, that's the only choice Russia had to stop Kiev regime killing people in Donbass. It's a long story, you can check out the Duran channel if interested to keep up with reality. It's sad that Germany is under US occupation, that's done intentionally to prevent you from cooperation with Russia, that's what uncle Sam fears the most. Good luck with everything, God keep you safe!
bro went to camps and jails all the fucking time and still survived and got released, damn
Admit it: The current flag looks cooler and more unique than the bland old one. People only hate the current flag because of it's association with Lukashenko.
I don't think so. Simple doesn't always mean bad. This combination of white and red colours looks very good better than in Austrian flag.
Association is very important but I prefer the old flag visually anyway, even though I don't hate the current one.
And it's deaper than pro-Lukashenko or anti-Lukashenko. It's a choice whether Belarussians prefer heritage of Grand Duchy of Lithuania or the Soviet Union.
As a Pole I'm obviously biased towards the first option.
@@MyPrideFlag i saw plenty of comments Poles and Liths. that Belarus doesnt have anything with GDL
@@simkelacasa Then they don't know shit. GDL was started by modern Lithuania but in time most of it's land and population was Belarussian. The official language was ruthenian (proto-belarussian).
They definitely deserve GDL's heritage.
@@simkelacasa most of the GDL's territories belong to modern day Belarus. Lithuania is definitely a GDL successor, but so is Belarus - if only its goverment was a little bit wiser.
@@neyte7313 so we can say that Belarus is the heir of the Russian Empire also😉
The old Belarusian flag is like a 'brother' of the Polish flag.
The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact 1940. Belarus/Byelorussia/White Russia would be doubled in area as the Soviets would take the eastern half of Poland - never returning it.
Я поддерживаю оппозиционеров, но нынешний флаг больше нравится
imperialism happened, the bel-czerwona-belym flag will always be the true flag.
>Failed state on the profile, that was held up by Tito.
Yeah, nobody asked you.
Greetings from Vitebsk, 🇧🇾
Old flag+ folk art bit
There was a design with both designs in present and it's pretty cool
I'm sorry but the "evil" Belarusian flag is way better than the pro democratic one. If the regime changes I really hope they keep the flag, it's one of the good European flags (which is rare on the continent)
I think that this flag will be changed, because there are almost no people in Belarus who would like to fight for this flag at all. It is considered by most people to be a symbol because people got used to it and believe that countries should have a flag, but it symbolizes almost nothing, only the times of the USSR. Also, all the good things that were associated with this flag in the past were simply washed away by Lukashenko's actions in recent years. He did everything possible to ensure that his government and this flag were considered a single entity.
@@husbananawho would fight for white red white rag? Except some radical brainless nationalists - NOBODY!
I am a Litwin (100% Belarus ) I think our flag 🏳❤🏳 is the coolest one, LIKE IF YOU AGREE !
really liked the video until the sponsor section :(
Isn't just an inverted Austrian flag?
The Green flag is hideous but the White & Red is pretty bad too
Definitly not my business, but yellow, red,... one is more esthetic for me. I find flags consist of just plain strips of basic colors very boring.
Hey history with hilbert can you make a video explaining on who are the Wagner group. Recently there has been a reported video of them killing a Russian mercenary with a sledgehammer and also the EU parliament was recently sent a bloody sledgehammer by the group themselves. Also apparently the U.S is considering designating them a terrorist organization so it would be interesting to hear about your thoughts on the group and an explanation about it as well.
Why is it orange
It's Ru[t͡ʂ]nik or Rushnik, not Ruhnik.
Can i tell you something old belerussian flag is the flag of łodz third largest city in poland
Honestly the actual flag is better
I think Belarus could create a new flag. I'd take the historical White-Red-White flag, and use the ornament Ruchnik (which perfectly represents the belarussian culture) from a current one, but put it horizontal - instead of red line
For what?
@@mememe3484 cuz it's cool
@@mememe3484 Because removing it is still oppressing Belarus culture?
Слава Белорусији! Слава Лукашенку 🇧🇾🇷🇸
Now do Georgia's flag! Why the change
Ruchnik is pronounced with the ch as in church, NOT as in Loch.
ai art will replace art
never.
No it wont
The advantage computers have is efficience which isnt needed in paintings
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aye can you do the Zapatista ?
new flag is better
your opinion. History behind flags matters much more than opinions on vexillology
we WILL bring our national 🏳❤🏳FLAG BACK ! D E A T H TO THE GOLDEN HORDE !
Very interesting
How many dialects are spoken in the country 🤔
Four
There's a good video on that but it's all in Belarusian: "Дакументальны фільм «Гаворкі Беларусі»: як гаворыць краіна"
Один... Южнорусский диалект русского языка 🧐
@@cherrywave9050 not sure 😕
We have 45 dialects in South Poland.
Old people still speak local dialects
@@olowrohek9540 у нас все говорят на русском. На искусственном белорусском говорят только змагары, но они его используют только для общения в своих гомо тусовочках, а в жизни используют русский. Старики почти асе говорят на трасянке. Трасянка - это южнорусский диалект с появившимися некоторыми полонизмами после оккупации поляками.
@@cherrywave9050 ok 👍 thanks
I want to visit one day
Ruchnik just means towel
Right and red looks better
And I'm just gonna say it
So too does the orange white and blue south african flag as opposed to what they have now
It looks tacky and somewhat more undemocratic than the older one
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@@Solaris_Paradox😂😂😂this is real flag of Belarus ⬜🟥⬜🤜🇧🇾🤡 down with lukhanseko
@@rockyhd5gangxd784 The white-red-white flag = fascism, nazi collaboration and genocide
Those Nazi collaborators and their German overlords love the old anthem and their "methods" in Reichskommissariat Ostland that they barbarically massacred 25% of the population of Belarus!
I know it has negative connotations to the lukashenko dictatorship but the modern flag design looks so cool
I don't think so. Soviet vexillology sucked. They just took red and added green at the bottom because all the other colors were taken.This is the ugliest color combination you can think of, especially considering it has nothing to do with our culture. All this ugliness is only saved by the beautiful ornamentation.
@@husbanana no italy has red green hungary has red green you stupid whats 9+10
@@husbanana flag of italy is literally green white red and hungary's the same
@@gianbasta Those flags look better because the white is actually part of the flag instead of being an emblem on red and green
I agree, It's sad because I (not from Belarus) really like the red-green flag: the design is unique, the colour scheme is nice, and I really like the traditional pattern. It's a shame the flag is seen as a symbol of oppression.
Also the Spanish flag keeps its coat of arms, but people remove it if they are drawing it for simplicity.
I really like the pattern, it makes the flag more cultural and unique. If the problem is it's too complex, they can always keep it, but have a simplified variant (eg: white bar with red zigzags) similar to the Spanish-flag-without-coat-of-arms in case eg: a child is drawing it.
If the Belarusians prefer the white-red-white flag, I hope they keep/add-on the traditional pattern.
I am from Bulgaria, and I'd honestly really like if we had a secondary flag with, or have our coat of arms include a traditional pattern. (Although our flag is simple as it is, and it'll add complexity for sure, but it's good on the current Belarus flag)
belarus! the go to vacation place for your farmer uncle