@@coloradostatesenatorsteven7443 nah for real, I’ll make sure to not meet people often so I don’t have to carry the blame of anything happening to anyone, neither that I’ll expect anything from anywhere or anyone
The reason why I become more and more antisocial is because society feels completely fake and just weirds me out. People say they don't want to be reduced to their looks, but all they present to the outside are their looks. People say they want true and meaningful conversations, but can't even take the slightest form of negativity or criticism cause it shatters their shallow and weak happiness. They say love and respect everyone but treat people that don't follow the norm like outcasts. They are sending completely opposing signals to everyone out there, while still expecting to be understood and respected. I'm in my mid 20s and I can literally feel how I become dumber and dumber the more time I spend with what you would call the average young adult. They all seem to be interested in having a good time, live and let live, positivity and I just feel alienated and don't understand their mindset. It's like I'm an old soul in a society of newborn. Edit: Many people pointed out that this is not antisocial behaviour. I don't delete the comment because even if it's not the same topic, many of you can relate and feel similar. It's been a long time since I wrote this, many things changed and some stayed the same. Hopefully it all works out in the end. God bless you.
I remember that as a kid despite being a little bit shy I was sociable and had no problems talking and understanding others but years of bullying, ostracism Ande parental problems lead me to develop some anti social behavior(I became also less social) as I am very angry at those who treated me unfairly. Ironically those who said that the antisocial people are dangerous, are the one who created them with their own antisocial behavior.
I get messed with a lot but the people who would dislike me on sight are extremely easy to become friendly by you being friendly first, then you really gotta leave because they'll 'latch on' (no shame tho, we all do it), but if you have no energy just dip, if you feel like expressing you anger and fighting, sometimes do it, but you really gotta work (it's bad but I believe everybody needs a variety of experiences at least once, not everything tho, accidents are not good)
Teaching kids to fight is the solution to this problem. Young boys are pacified and taught to tell an adult and the adults don’t do Jack shit. The teachers let the problem continue when if the kid just punched his bully straight in his jaw as hard as he can I bet they’ll think twice and everyone will respect you more, at the very least they’ll leave you the fuck alone
Use the hatred to be better. Go build your body at the gym. Maybe swimming or sprints. These will blow the steam. (I like rock climbing but I'm broke) *Or a fighting sport in order to learn how to protect yourself from physical abuse such as being able to hit back.* Learn something new. Photo Editing(Gimp is free) or 3D Modelling(Blender's free too) are some stuff you can pick up on with a few tutorials. Reading books on topics or genres you're interested in.
This hit pretty hard. As a kid I was "diagnosed" with ADHD. I was given Ritalin as a kid. My father told me he only allowed it for two days because he didn't like that I wasn't acting like a kid anymore, but what he didn't know was that my mother kept giving me Ritalin just so I would sit down and shut up. He said that when I was taking the Ritalin, I didn't want to run around and play. I just sat on the couch and spaced off or stared at the TV for hours. One things for sure, I will never do the same when I have children.
so were u benefited by taking it or not? Edit: OK! I get it! I don't know what shit ritalin was. If i knew i wouldn't have asked. I didn't knew. And i just asked. I wasn't rude to anyone. Why r u guys being rude to me?? If u get offended because someone doesn't know about something and acted stupid(and also realized his mistake and apologized later on), just ignore this comment and f*** off Also thanks to those who answered me😄 it really helped understand the concept
I would say it did not. It suppressed my natural outgoing behavior as a child. I’m antisocial as an adult now and my parents wonder why. I’ve been watching a lot of videos to help me redevelop my social skills in order to be the monster Jordan Peterson talks about.
He just described my childhood, rejected from the other kids and their parents too, feeling unwanted and hated just made me exactly how they treated and worse adding a ruthless violence and absence of any regret or sense mercy for nobody. None but hate, poverty and anger. Thank God He blessed me and guided me out the darkness and now I definitely see what this life is really about, love, faith and justice
I escaped this darkness in my early 20s, by developing coping strategy and surrounding myself with support of people. But now after Covid, that strategy for some reason doesn’t exist anymore. Regression into something that you never should’ve been in the first place
@@Desmondbrown73 I'm so sorry for that brother, but remember that the most important thing is that if you made it in your early 20s to change your life for the better well you can do it again these are hard times to be alive but believe me there will be some harder days ahead we gotta stay strong together, sadly our governments are showing up for what they are nothing but a totalitarian dictatorship and so you just as everybody else are required to stay strong fight back for our lives, freedom and future you are not alone brother! We will fight through this hell of a life together and we will succeed
@@unknownpornstar2327 No need to be that rude and matter of fact you don't know him so how can you tell if he is antisocial or not? Try to be more constructive and choose your words wisely if you gotta comment I may suggest, in my case I was and still am antisocial and I'm lonely but I enjoy being this way can't say the same for many others who are antisocial but are desperately looking for some sort of relationship/friendship and that's a whole another story
@@thegreatunknown6195 Yh there’s nothing wrong with that but this vid is about antisocial PERSONALITY DISORDER also known as psychopathy, you need to distinguish the two as they are very different and people with the disorder are sick; hurt animals; extremely charming/manipulative to get their own way and very selfish. Is that you? If it is then unlucky mate that’s a miserable life
@@unknownpornstar2327 let get this straight I will re elaborate my sentence, I'm socially antisocial, not at an advanced psychological stage where I developed any kind of disturb or personality disorder that's for sure and yeah a miserable life nonetheless
This seems to summarize Peterson's ideas in a nutshell: old-fashioned parenting has at least *some* concerning elements, but rejecting ALL tradition has serious side-effects.
@@alexhoppe6214 Actually, tradition is mostly carried through time because of the fear of the unknown. And, what does it mean to "work"? That it works well enough for the survival of our species? Or that it brings a healthy society? Congrats, tradition, you didn't make us extinct. But is it the best? Is it even good? Well, that's from tradition to tradition, as arguing if 'tradition' is good or bad is an overgeneralization. But tradition mostly continued through time because we didn't really think about it. We simply tend to repeat what was taught to us, even if it's unnecessarily cruel, stupid, hurtful, at times even hateful and destructive, working against a healthy society, simply because we didn't really think about it. It's not that it worked, it's that we didn't know any better. With the spread of education and information in the last century, tradition is finally being put as something to question, and so we will get the actual answer to the question we never even bothered to ask, but always assumed the answer. Does it actually work?
Just checking in here. I'm considered a leftist. I don't even listen to J.P. I always thought that conservatism is the will to keep things that reason and experience proved useful or beautiful. I never found peace by constantly seeking new things. Hardcore progressism is an agitated state, it really is exhausting. I like the modern individuality of being able to make choices for myself, but at the same time, I find some peace in living by standards that thousands of years of humanity bequeathed us. Anyway, progressist or conservatives we all have to deal with the same existential crisis. We should recognize that and care for each other. Love ya kings.
@@artistry7919 Japan is the perfect case for Tradition, America is the perfect case for doing and being the unknown. So yes, you should know if you give it a little thought what's good and bad about both. Just compare the 2.
Oof, you sound a little triggered, my guy. I think you spend a bit too much time playing Fallout, you sound exactly like the type of person Jordan here is speaking about.
If I'm dangerous for being antisocial, then humanity is even more dangerous for making me not wish to take part in society's toxic and self destructive behaviors.
He's not talking about Introverts or socially anxious people. He's talking about Sociopaths which comes from Psychosis. Anti social people are Narcissist, manipulative. They have no empathy. It's a psychological disorder.
I remember as a child care worker, we had one woman come in to speak to us about how to engage children. And she talked about ADD. I remember her saying, "You know drugs don't work. The best thing you can do is go up to that kid and tell him to go up the stairs, to the office, and fetch the paper. So he goes running up the stairs as fast as he could, comes back down. Then you say, 'Oh, did you get the pens?' Then he goes right back up the stairs to grab the pens." Because one thing I found with ADD kids, particularly boys, is that they just love to prove themselves. They have to prove they're the fastest. Or that they can draw the best. Or they can do things. And if you give them these small tasks, that they can reasonably do with their attention span, they won't let you down. Not normally at least.
this makes me think I have ADD because that was exactly me as a kid. Always needed to prove something to anyone, competitive as fuck and strived to be the better than anyone in anything(still happens now but on smaller scale). Is this an identifier of ADD or can it be that i don't have it? Never been diagnosed and I'm so happy for that, my parents would just let me be this crazy ass kid.
Bro I imagine a lot of people watch this video and they think antisocial means you prefer to be by yourself 😂😂 Edit 3 years later: So after sometime I still stand by what I mean kinda….. Not here to argue. Just when I think of antisocial I generally think of the disorder which is characterized as a form sociopathy/psychopathy By technical definition “antisocial” could just be someone who doesn’t really want/enjoy other’s company But avoiding confusion I think asocial or another term would’ve been better over “antisocial”
As someone that used to be actually antisocial along with severe depression and anxiety, it drives me up a fucking wall when people are like "#antisocial lol!" Because no genuinely antisocial person on the planet would have social media apps, let alone use a hashtag. I had Instagram strictly for memes and never posted anything nor tried to friend people from my school
@@DoktrDub It's known to start at a very young age, then it can develop into pathology or conditioned out from the child's progressive development. Then a tonne of sh#t can happen at any point in one's life and have serious complications with coping mechanisms or not. Without denying anything, I guess people here would rather tone down the serious nature of having antisocial personality disorders. 🙏
He is so right, I was the 3yr old monster that went undisciplined and unsocialized as a child. Went on to be a real troublemaker and struggled with social anxiety and antisocial behavior till my mid 20s. His comment about rejection from peers and fake smiles from adults is dead on. Won't make that mistake with my kids.
As an individual who was born into a home of chaos and abuse, I can say with absolute certainty that J Pete's is right. Around 4 years old I had seen so much hatred and fighting between my parents that I believed people who love eachother hurt eachother. It was hard to make friends because I thought you were supposed to yell and hit your loved ones. Time passed and around 4th grade I started getting bullied by older kids. They would punch me and push me, one time they threw me down a rocky hill into a thorn bush and laughed at me. But I just kept going back to them everyday because I believed they were my friends. Time passed and I started smoking weed in 7th grade, which made me close myself off from the world. Eventually I just stopped communicating, I could speak but I didnt communicate. 8 years later and I'm a recovering addict with a criminal history. Moral of the story, dont let your shitty personality get in the way of raising a kid. Bless up everyone
I grew up in a abusive home too. Jesus can heal you he loves you too!! If you accept him as your lord and savior he will save you from your sins and create in you a new heart. He can heal you from the abusive past and give you peace!
Same and guess what, you're not alone man. I'm so emotionally detached I can't even express how I feel sometimes. String of family neglect and verbal abuse from the beginning, I'm just trying to break the cycle. It's tough not being able to keep relationships or friendships even though the capability is there, I just lack the emotional self esteem part despite my intelligence. Even though I look good 6 pack and everything, confidence is my biggest downfall. all you can do now is do things the right way when you have kids. Even though you may not want one, just don't be like our parents.. I know damn well I'm going to try my best not to have my kid end up like me If I ever do have one. Life can be so enjoyable I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy to grow up angry, addicted and perusing violence as a way out.
@@fishmoneybagz_ God loves you man, I grew up verbally abused as well being told to kill myself repeatedly. I called on Jesus before I was gonna end my life in my car and he revealed himself to me. A physical weight lifted out of me and I never wanted to commit suicide after that. Call on Jesus man he died for your sins and he will save you from them. He can give you peace and heal your wounds inside and make you feel alive again. If we ask him to forgive our sins and repent (turn away) we can be forgiven. Our sin separates us from God but Jesus died to restore you and give you his spirit so you can have perfect connection with him. His death is what we deserved but he removed Gods wrath away from us and put it on himself. He took our punish and paid for our sin if you place your faith in him and ask him to forgive you and to save you. After you put your faith in Jesus that he died for your sins go get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:38 John 3 Being born again is when God makes you a completely new creation with the Holy Spirit and makes the old pass away, no longer do you carry the weight of sin. He gives you freedom. He can heal depression anxiety and everything. I encourage you to read the four Gospels Mathew Mark Luke & John. After you give your life to Jesus continue to study the Bible and pray daily. He can walk you through your pain and give you strength when you have zero. He’s been healing me and now I’m completely off bipolar meds.
This is why sports are so important for young men. It gives them a outlet for that energy and helps them get used to interacting with other's in a constructive way.
Yeah sorry buddy I’m literally not into sports, i mean I used to, but we’re not going into that 😤😤😤, anyways I prefer hanging out with friends on bikes and theater that’s the closest thing to joining sport I’ll do. But I’ll play actually but not for competition, But I don’t even play that much video games too, like at most I’ll play 0-1 hour a day.
The problem I experienced with school sports as a child was that I was very good at most of them and pushed by overly competitive adults to formulate hatred for the opposing teammates, who were neighborhood friends on the other side of the road that divided the school districts. This was in the late 70s, skateboarding was just emerging, so I dropped out of organized sports in high school and put all of my energy into skating... and eventually skateboarding became as competitive and organized as standard sports. I totally understand how competition is a driver for people to succeed, but if it is ingrained at an early age that the other team is an enemy, then we're just training psychopaths.
Uh I've played baseball every year sense I was a kid and I never had a good connection with the other players, I always sucked at sports and the coaches didn't want to spend any time on a kid that sucks so how was I suppose to get better if I'm not being trained
You don't need it, but it's a plus. The hierarchy system is built to put the smartest people that can also control their emotions at the top. The problem is that socio/psychopaths are basically handicaped so it may be usefull sometimes but most of the time it is a problem
@@issoulescondes3913 but it’s the sociopaths and psychopaths that seek that type of control and power. Most sane people no matter how smart and qualified don’t want those positions.
mp biggame This is so true and used to absolutely flabbergast me bcoz i could not understand how someone could be confident without being competent. I always thought that confidence comes from proving your own competence over time - but thats coz i was like that. Some people r just born confident and its not always earned.
You can be confident. But that doesn’t make you good at anything. You still have to put in the work and be persistent and consistent. Confidence is the first step. It’s only gives you the courage to begin. While competence, gives you the ability to strive.
u gain confidence, u don't earn it. U can even be confidently assertive, winning or loseing isn't the goal but the experience. if ur not self confident, u have serious self esteem issues for caring what others think. All u have to do is be yourself and u won't have to struggle with any self esteem issues.
We carry many of our horrible childhood habits into adulthood because we never matured into adults. We are basically adaptive adult children who are taking on a set of behaviors to protect the wounded inner child.
This explains so much about my mental health. I was born with autism, back in the early 90s when most people didn't even know what autism was. When I started school, I was constantly bullied and beaten just because I was socially awkward. I got bullied, harassed and smacked at every school I went to, just because I kept missing social cues or misinterpreting body language. Now, at the age of 30, I hardly ever leave my apartment, I genuinely believe that 90% of humans are pure evil, and I have to smoke weed everyday because if I don't I can't stop fantasizing about killing people.
Stop smoking weed that only increases your anxiety even if you believe it to be helping, remember your past doesn't define who you are now. Read the book the power of now. Hating and wanting to kill people only leads to more suffering for you, if you hate people killing people would make you a worse person then these people. Treat people with kindness and respect and you will get the same energy back. if you don't then they don't deserve your love. I hope some positive comes your way, change your inner mindset and your outer world will change.
@@flatmoontheory you are only saying this because this is what you hear in the media amd radio. Do a proper research and after that you will not criticise him.
Listening to Jordan Peterson makes me realize that parenting is extremely difficult and pushes me more to not want to have children on fear of failing as a father.
I think a better question would be how do you find a proper partner that will help you raise them. Dysfunctional families a lot of yikes come from "Go for it" mindset without vetting your partner.
I've listened to a lot of your material... but as someone with ADHD, this hit me so hard... a lot of obvious yet disregarded memory just came together like a freaking mystery novel. Thanks for assisting with another breakthrough Jordan
ADHD is made up by dumb people in authority, to control children who are just energetic and confident and need to be busy to burn off the energy. Find your own path or way in this life and live it to the fullest. Don't listen to stupid people, they are confused hypocrites!!!
Kristoffer B what? Im not going against what he's saying im talking to the people in the comment section who think hes reffering to people who are antisocial as opposed to having antisocial personality disorder
@@PE93 He just wanted to say that he is talking about Anti-Social people , not on aSocial and introverts... While theres many people think Anti-Social = Introvert wich is wrong... Psychologists made this name so confusing while they are the best Extroverts in this earth lul....
Honestly same. I'm 22 and i was a normal child who would talk and play with everyone regardless of people i knew or not. I was "designed" to be the perfect child and human being who would make no mistakes and listen to every single thing the parents would say. It was all going well untill i grew up and realised that the more perfect you are, the more they neglect you and get jealous of you. They all just plan and plan and plan to put you down hence i lost my faith in people and i do not talk anymore. The person explaining all this in the video is 99% correct on this concept and i know if i do something to them, i will go down a path of no return and there will be no one left to stop me. All that will be left will be endless despair waiting for me as the consequences of my actions
I have found out in life that, unfortunately, if you don't fit in with the madness, so to speak, the only way many people come near you is to help themselves, whether they realize is or not!
As a young man who was diagnosed with oppositional defiance disorder early on, a prelude to true antisocial behavior. I have struggled living in my own head my entire life. I am now 23 and through many ruined relationships, selfish habits and addiction and just trouble with the law I have legit finally figured it out. Been sober, got out in the world and made real connections, started hustling, Learned to feel my emotions again and life is looking up. It's easy to grow up broke And become cold and psychopathic. I was almost one. I had to have some sever life turning points to get here
I'm in the same exact boat, basically have no real friends, the only people I really fit on with was gangsters, physcopaths, and crazy folk, everyone else seems fake, lying, or hostile.
@@asherjack2378 yoo dude it gets better just put your mind to some good shit and follow through, be that person that lifts up everyone around you. That dude who has no beef just a good heart
Yo bro how did u get out of your head after all them years? And feel real connections again and feel present? I can’t get out of my head and just feel emotionless when I’m out and disconnected. Thanks
@@blufunds6639 stop doing drugs, get a daily routine u make sure u follow These 2 steps alone Will already help And all tahts left besides perhaps youre money Problem would be to socialize bit taht Will ve easier eventually
researchers consistently fail to address the magnitude of this issue. People ultimately need love and validation. When a man doesn't matter to a woman, when she doesn't gaze at him with a loving smile, tell him she wants him/needs him, that he matters to her. A lot of guys have never had that. This will cause disillusionment/isolation/soul sadness and mental health issues in men. No amount of material things, por* will be able to replace that. The problem in the west is 2 fold. Incels can't get a woman and the ones that do get one, end up in divorce/breaking up or being cheated on and losing more than the lady. So they swear off relationships and end up lonely all the same. (Mgtow) Both have the effect of creating lonely, angry, atomised ppl and broken society with plummeting birth rates. And can spell the end of that society. What are we seeing in the west now? Falling sperm counts, falling testosterone levels, births, marriage, and a rapidly ageing society, with catastrophic debt levels. White ppl used to have close family bonds but now they no longer keep ties with family and send old ppl to homes. Jobs for life are a thing of the past, from where they used to form friends. White ppl lost their matchmaking culture and used to marry form within their own tried and tested social circle. With all that now gone, internet dating and cold approaching/PUA random women that u know nothing about is the way. Which can be toxic.
Yup I don't know if it's only me but I'm an introvert and I don't like talking to others but when I want to I actually get to have a good conversation and my mouth is like a machine gun. Sometimes it's just a matter of willingness. Introverted people are actually the people who has a lot to say.
Chris Johnson I feel the exact same way. My family always gets upset with me when I do not respond properly to them. I rarely talk to people because it makes me extremely uncomfortable. But I know specific topics extremely well. If somebody wants to argue with me they end up feeling like an idiot. They just learn what they hear at high school, college, and on Twitter. They never learn for themselves. Thanks for letting me know it’s not just me.
Yep MrTripper77 My mom actually thought about taking me to a psychiatrist at 14 years old for being cold as hell and extremely quiet dude. My teachers in high school thought I was depressed and mentally ill because I wasn't showing any emotions in class and I rarely smiled. I kinda fixed it in college but most social interactions that I get into are either for business or for school. Not for friendships. Friendships are good, but I ain't into that life. I like some friends, but I don't want an army of fake ones.
I know how you feel like homie the moments when people talk the most are the moments where I want to respond the least because I don't want to deal with ignorant and angry people.
I never learned how to interact with people very well. Wish I could but its hard to make friends or get past a first date when you don't have basic conversation skills. Now monologues and smart ass comments on the other hand i'm an expert at.
Yippers The best advice for socializing is asking other people about themselves. Especially to ask what do they love. Questions that get people to talk about themselves is comforting to most because it’s something they actually know about, and it shows you may not be overly narcissistic.
I would begin by becoming a writer. It will force you to create conversations and it will develope your creativity. Don't give up, you can still learn to be social.
@@lookaway8936 I actually never thought of that before, writing is like creating situation which you can talk about and improve your social skills through thinking of stuff to write.
I was just like that cannot interact with peoples after that i stop thinking too much and started talking more and more which makes no sense. Now i can interact with peoples easily
I used to get bullied back in my school days a lot (Like at second to 5th grade) and it was at that time where I started to stay at home most of the time and play alone for example, as I couldn't trust anyone in the fear of getting bullied again. After this finally faded away and those people and I went seperate ways, I remained to be the same person that I was back then. I haven't really put much thought into it, nor have I talked to anyone about it. At the age of 17 I suddenly fell into deep depressions and just wanted everything to stop, as I felt very lonely and no one understood me. That's when I put thought into my past again, and realized that I got this fucked up due to my past. I tried talking to my parents about it aswell, but they just told me to get over it already. Like "Why are you still clinging to these things from the past?", they asked. Now I am 19 years old, I am still pretty antisocial since I don't feel like doing things with people I pretend to like. Even texting is too hard for me, which causes these people to think that I am not interested in them. But I am, it's just that I don't want to bother them (Weird to explain..). I just lost overall interest in everything. I spend most of my time on my PC, browsing the internet without any real purpose or destination. Just wanting to waste my time somehow. My speech skills aren't as great aswell. While I am able to hold a proper conversation with people I don't know, I am still very very anxious about it, cause I'm afraid of getting judged for every move I make. Even though I tell myself that I shouldn't give so much thought about other people, and focus on myself. It's like I have an evil goblin sitting in my head, telling me nothing but bad things to make me feel bad about myself and that I'm not deserving of any good that comes towards me.
What did he say about teaching them what hurts and what doesn’t? Subject yourself to the pain. You’ll eventually realize that it means nothing unless it comes from someone you hold in high regard or against something you hold in high regard.
YOU MUST CHALLENGE YOURSELF Get your butt off the computer, and do something, learn something, make something, help someone. You'll never grow and, be happy otherwise. Oh if only I could advise my young self, at least I can give guidance to someone. Your insecurities will wash away, and in ten years you won't believe who you've become, and who you were.
This is so true I’ve dealt with supreme adhd and now that I’m 20 I’ve been looking towards sports and gym to getting myself involved physically It’s helped with my anxiety, helped me become more focused, and truly understand how to utilize the rampant amount of energy I have throughout the day.
I had a undiagnosed Adhd till 6 months ago, where I finally started accepting myself and how alone I was on this as my parents didn’t care enough to seek help for the past 19 years of my life, I was obese nearly half of my life, I was always restless, I thought i needed to something but I didn’t know what,now Gym is all i got, it calms me down, After i do my daily exercises I feel amazing afterwards, more focused,stable and happy. ilost 15kg of weight in past 3 months and heading to be my dream self while just using the gym as a fuel of my body, I’ve read about how people get addicted and grow tolerance to stimulants I saw the same addiction towards gym in myself despite being lazy and fat all my life.
I threw a full ketchup bottle at my sister when we were younger, in a rage. It exploded on the wall and we both just laughed. Then we cleaned it up quickly so we didn't get beaten. Sibling feuds are funny. She told on me for running away when I was 9. I had run away for an hour or so, but came back and hid in my closet. She told my mom and step dad I ran away and when they got pissed she told them I came back and was hiding. I got my ass BEAT for that one and SHE was the one that needlessly made them angry. Lol
I hate cursing and legit believe some words invite demons because when I used to curse like a sailor when I was lukewarm and un-lady-like. I noticed the more I cursed the more angry and vicious I got.
If my parents would have had the benefit of this information it would have been a very different childhood. Nevertheless as an adult I am grateful to have this wealth at my fingertips.
if only parents not care about status position , they always put mask like good people and peace and happy when outside house but they know that they are evil :) they definitely good actor.
Parents basically become blind in their (i want the best for you or this is better for you) way of thinking, like they (almost always) think like they know more than their children & that their opinion is more important thinking THEY know how to make the life of their children better, which is just sad to see, basically parents RUINING their children's life slowly without realizing much (and in some cases not even caring if it ruins their life or not)
Development of aggression & criminality it's mostly tied to intergenerational habits/traumas/neglect & early neurodevelopment, & inadequate self-regulation. Look up rates of child abuse, neglect, intimate-partner violence... Is corporal punishment legal in your country? Is there sensationalisation of violence in your culture? What about laws against coercive control? What about how much time & resources families have for their children in early life? How about funding & support of education systems? Accessibility of pediatricians, diet. JP is useless for properly contextualizing why these statistics manifest. It's individual. Far more nuanced. It's not the teacher's fault. Not just the parents' fault due to slipping through cracks. Consider the CDC has huge programmes to read for countries to implement targeting/reducing/managing/preventing Ace's (Adverse Childhood Experiences). And that it's mandatory to act on what's known to help protect kids if it's known. So what's going on in Canada? We're "so civilized & polite." A murder of a female by her male intimate partner occurrs in Canada every 6 days... Quebec has one of the worst rates. Consider, 1 death/6 days: • doesn't count aborted/failed attempts (puts the rate at every other day, basically) On top of that: • doesn't count different gender variations of the intimate partners • doesn't count "missing," or those murders deemed accidents due to cover-up • doesn't factor in the vicarious trauma, abuse & neglect of kids in these situations In Canada: • Corporal punishment = legal • Laws against coercive control = just barely being considered in some areas • Supports for the most vulnerable (a noted component of something that is "protective against" this violence) have massively decreased in the past 30yrs • Our non-reformative prison system, plus it's overcrowded & bad criminals get let out again fast -- Police budgets keep growing but they're never targeting "prevention" enough for the real root (because then how would they get budget increases?) • Our more individualistic society (particularly among C/conservatives) is more interested in ignoring the way the country could maximize human capital, by wanting to focus on maximizing individual capital at expense of those under them... Ignorant of statistics, the fluidity of things, & how proper support/infrastructure for everyone is an investment with a payoff many times beyond the initial investment... Which improves everything for everyone. Look at Alberta right now, demanding pay cuts from Doctors, gutting education... Letting COVID relief $ default to their party's debt at cost of taxpayers' lives & pretending it's because of smart investments (they paid down debt nearly double what they thought they would, during a pandemic no less -- fishy). We need to value community. It takes a village. We need warmer hearts, broader cultures. JP just contributed nothing useful or valid that common sense wouldn't tell you. The real nitty gritties... Well if you think JP is groundbreaking, you're not as educated as you think. And it's sad
I'm antisocial cuz I realized the older I get the less I wanna be around people and the bullshit they bring with them. Rather be alone than be miserable with the wrong friends and significant other. It's not worth dealing with that just to have a social life
I'm anti-social because there's to many untrustworthy, stupid and hateful people in this world, I learned that I can't really trust or depend on no one including family, I'm anti-social because I stay away from people that don't want to do anything but use or cause grief to me, this is how majority of people I have encountered are, so I really try not to be bothered with people.
you state you avoid everyone in your statement. that is the fact i'm talking about. there is nothing wrong with avoiding untrustworthy people, but avoiding every more progressive connectie connection is just more harmful for you then for anyone else and everyone needs people who he can trust from time to time. normally this is relationschips, family and dear friends who stand close to you. family you stated you can't trust for what reason what so ever you stated which is sad but there are families where that isn't posseble. But to neglect all other people off by default is kinda selfdestructive in the long run. Yes you will always find people who are untrustworthy but you will meet people who are worth trusting. maybe lower % then the untrustworthy but the fact is there are people out there. if you don't agree with this you also state you aren't trustworthy aswell.
Art juh I didn't say I stay away from all people there are a few people that I trust, but not many, I have seen many times where people trusted or thought they could trust others , but they soon realized they thought wrong and realized those people where not good for them. Even certain family that you think you could trust will be quick to turn there back on you, steal from you and do all kinds of things that just are not good. My point is there are some good people that you can trust and depend on, but majority of people you encounter including certain family members just are not like that.
@@MyRockstar777 Albert Einstein wrote, “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
When are we going to start calling out that the medication of children for the purpose of controlling a child's natural biological behaviour is a crime against humanity!
I agree, modern political correctness/the LGBT community would rather perpetuate the problem than accept that the child is going through a phase or simply needs to embrace their current gender. It's beyond me how anyone thinks changing someone hormones and giving them fake genitals will fix the problem.
Than you a lot, Prof. Peterson, for explaining my situation of personal development with ADHD. And flip you, dear school psychologists, flip you dearly!
Do you actually have AD/HD? Not everyone that has been diagnosed with it actually has it. If you're creative and/or have an imagination, public school will bore you to tears, and you will show signs of an attention disorder. Jordan Peterson is probably more qualified to diagnose you than *any* school "psychologist"!
I have ADHD. I am now too old to be put on Ritalin. I like what you said about young boys needing robust play or else they'll develop attention disorders. I never got any robust play. My parents were of the opinion that children should be seen & not heard. Mom, in particular, never liked loudness around the house. She always said it upset her nerves. When my parents discovered that I might have an attention disorder, they also discovered that whereas insurance would cover the cost of medication, it WOULD NOT cover the cost to have me tested. Dad's job didn't pay enough for expensive things. They ALSO believed that my condition could be alleviated if I would just buckle down & STUDY HARDER -- that some EXTRA EFFORT would produce those A's. In the meantime I had NO IDEA that it wasn't ALL MY FAULT. I blamed myself for not TRYING HARDER, & often felt like I was the member of the family that might get hidden up in the attic. Thank you Dr. Peterson! I think that now I KNOW that it was never my fault. I should like to add that I DID get tested late in life & was on Ritalin for some years. I never got through college -- just a whole bunch of credits, but I did make Phi Theta Kapa!!
good for you mate for getting into Kapa Ritalin is more for children if you still feel as if you are battling your adhd and not winning at that, ask youd doctor about Adderall or Dextroamphetamine as they are more for adults, with the former being more popular, but my brother and I have taken the latter and have agreed it is better as it doesnt suppress the appetite as much
I'm a parent with a 8 year old diagnosed with ADHD. What advice would you give as some one who experienced it growing up? He's not allowed to rough house inside but him and his brother can rough house and be crazy anytime they want outside... We ended up pulling him out of school for disruptive behavior such as flipping desks in class. He's never had issues behaving at home, for example he once flipped a desk because the teacher asked him to sit down in class. At home I can ask him to sit down, do his homework and do his chores, sweeping, etc and he is perfectly happy to do his work and chores. He is being home schooled in a program designed for children with ADHD which helps. He's also allowed to rough house, etc outside in the yard with his brother as much as he wants just not indoors. As far as drugs go I'm against using drugs to control his ADHD since it's relatively easy to control at home through low carb diet. however at school he was off the walls. I've also questioned doctors about ADHD drugs and some of them can affect brain development permanently.
Again, he’s speaking of antisocial as defined in the DSM and used by behavioral health professionals, not “antisocial” as is understood strictly within the context of the English language and it’s definition of the word. He’s talking about people, < 2% or so of the population, that don’t bother following rules, caring about others and will take advantage of everyone around them without any awareness, insight or consideration of their actions and it’s effects on anyone other than themselves.
Yes, and those people aren't necessarily introverts either. Mostly, they're extroverts that are perfectly capable of engaging in social activities. They're just selfish, abusive, manipulative and blunt(which is due to their lack of empathy) In most cases, they're sociopaths(developed) and psychopaths(genetic). However, some highly functioning autistic people also have the same lack of empathy. In any case, these people are extremely hard to spot as they never let you find out their true intent. The reason why antisocial people are actively AGAINST the society unlike asocial people is primarily because of the difference in their thoughts& feelings. Because they don't have moral values as opposed to the society. They certainly find the concept of common sense utterly absurd. They're well aware that laws are also human-made.
@@tony_fanta Maybe traumatized kids at some point, if it's something developed(sociopaths). However, not exactly rich kids. Rich kids tend to be more narcissistic than antisocial. They're likely to be very frustrated when something doesn't go their way, or they can't get what they want. But antisocial people have more logical ways of coping. They might also use violence, anger and alike(if they're sociopaths) but they definitely won't cry around for being unable to get what they want, unlike rich kids. Antisocial people too would probably be annoyed by how rich kids complain all the time. Psychopaths fall into the neither category. Because they're BORN that way. Very straightforward. Neither traumatized, nor spoilt. Just robotic.
and then there are those of us having a negative reaction to having contact with these people and their behavioral patterns all day every day for 50 years. its exhausting and requires boundaries and defense mechanisms that require maintenance. >98% of people are trash.
@@VaughanMcCue it could communicate years before kindergarten. I learned most of my vocabulary by books. I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
@@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466 Perhaps you were a savant or benefited from very competent parents that were neither deaf nor mute. Congratulations. My parents only used meth smoke signals to communicate?
@@VaughanMcCue I feel that. Not for myself, but for my relatives. I was reading Judy B Jones and Hank the Cowdog at 7, my cousin is still having trouble reading Dr. Seuss at 7. It's sad, but it shows the difference a present parent makes is incredible. I hope you are doing well.
@@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466 Dr Edgie dedicated extra time to learning additional knowledge and was euphemistic in their comment about their past educational experience. You would probably agree that people are born with brains that process information at different rates and abilities, and chance also plays a part in the individual's physical competencies. Perhaps you would accept that the quality of the environment, genetics, nurturing, and nutrition impact the outcomes for a person. There may be people like you who survived on a deserted island without parents and other humans to contribute to their development, relying on an abandoned library as their only resource. Most of us had others around to contribute to our development, and I am not saying that the formal education we received was perfect. Still, on balance, it has contributed to society, and education standards and methods need to improve. If we can read, thank our teachers, or in your unique situation, you can acknowledge the librarians who left you the tools to learn. The rest of us can thank our parents and others who contributed to our lives.
Exactly what my grandmother always said. Children naturally want to play and move around and exhaust themselves. When they're forced to just sit still and listen for many hours, of course they eventually get bored and overwhelmed by their natural desire to move and do stuff to the point where they just can't really focus very well. And then people assume something is wrong with the kids and they get medicated which then, of course, *actually* causes something to be wrong with them, by suppressing their natural instincts and behavior to make them fit into this current very non-child friendly environment that we live in. She is a pretty smart woman. I myself would add that the most common mistake is that children are not seen as children but as mentally slow and disabled adults.
Feminism is fake entirely lmao. When has feminism ever benefited men instead of granting women power over men while abusing it through the law ? Feminism is feminism for a reason. It is not for men and any man who believes it's not one sided is a schmuck. I've done my research.
@@derekclawson5707 yeah it's been like that on social media but at it's core it's for equal rights and helping people feel safer. most feminists are good people and have the right beliefs there's just some really stupid shit on the internet
@@derekclawson5707 Feminism is a movement not created by women ( they're too weak to do that ) it was created by rich men who wanted more taxes money from women. But it's going too far and I guess from now 20 years later feminism won't exist anymore. Now feminism has become a joke and people hate either women or men.
David Y Tesla was too agreeable and people took advantage of him. Also I think the word from his quote was solitude not anti social. His work was done to benefit all of humanity so he was not actually anti social.
Anna Vajda Lol, what? Benefiting the humanity or not doesn't change the fact that he was anti-social, keeping in mind that anti-social is a person that doesn't like to interact to others (a clear description of Tesla's behavior), he has just done what he's done because he was completely obsessed, not because he cared about people in any way.
Antisocial personality disorder in the clinical sense does not mean "doesn't like to interact with others." It deals with people who have no regard for right and wrong. Many times they are actually quite charming, usually used as a tool to manipulate. Many people do not understand there is a difference.
Tesla used the word "anti-social" referring to what we actually call "asocial behaviour" in psychology, I just used the word "anti-social" to fit the first comment.
Antisocial does not mean introverted or avoidant as it’s often used. It means behaving in any way that’s counter to generally accepted social norms (i.e., a manipulative sociopath).
Anti social disorder you mean. Put the disorder in front. anti social is pretty much alot of thing you can put in that bucket that include introvert. Anti social behavior, anti social personality and anti social disorder are 3 different thing.
@@PourriGamer In the past, antisocial was strictly a clinical or diagnostic term. The laypersons have misused the word so often and severely in colloquial speech that it has taken on a new meaning similar to introversion or “just not wanting to socialize”; but only in common vernacular. I have a masters in psychology and worked in a clinical setting for two years before I left all that junk behind. Plus, it’s antisocial, not anti social. I can’t tell if you are misinformed or uninformed, but it seems like you have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe you just didn’t want to take the time to really explain this, but you have done everyone who reads your comment a disservice, if that’s the case. Good luck misleading people.
@@Josh-qo7yd thanks for this. I never known that. Its crazy how society has taken clinical and diagnostic terminology into social society vocabulary norms. If that all makes sense.
I never had ADHD or anything but I vividly remember a few times I had the toughest times just looking at the paper. It was like my whole being rejected me sitting there and doing school work. People said that grade school would be the best time of my life. I am so glad they were wrong.
Makes me cringe how many people in the comment section don't understand what anti-social means. It does not mean withdrawn, disliking social behaviour or preferring to be alone, that is asocial behaviour. Antisocial is aggressive, rule breaking, criminal and manipulative. These people enjoy getting into social interactions simply to assert dominance over others.
deckard163 Antisocial does involve aggressive, criminal behavior, read about it. If you're just the type who doesn't socialize, you're either avoidant, schizoid or just a loner by conscious choice.
deckard163 where do you find this information from? the last time I checked the definition between unsocial and antisocial I was met with different results. it claimed that unsocial behaviour is a general withdrawn and lack of desire to be in social situations. it also claimed antisocial behaviour was akin to vandalism and socially destructive behaviours. as far as I could remember, this was an Oxford dictionary definition
There are many factors that influence a person to be asocial, among them the eloquence problems, that have little peculiar tastes, timidity, insecurity about his/her physique, the upbringing and the education of the Individual, and many other factors, you can't associate something so polisemic with simple behaviors that don't define the attitude of introverted people in general.
Im very thankful i was well socialized as a child. But now at 23 I just like silence and running no risk of letting someone come in my life just to disrupt my otherwise peaceful life.
The only thing your in danger of is finding out more about your true self, I think if anything our society could use some self empowerment in being happy alone. If your not happy alone, your depending on others for you source of happiness & I don't think you'll truly ever find it. "The reason we feel alienated is because the society is infantile, trivial, and stupid. So the cost of sanity in this society is a certain level of alienation" - Terrance Mckenna
Why don't we teach cats to be okay with not purring and playing with other cats and killing mice. Just put them in a bare room. They should be happy alone. If not there's something wrong with your cat.
Ive just learned that the only person you can trust is yourself. In this day and age, you can no longer trust people, it will backfire every time. What he is saying can also be the result of severe discipline as i know from personal experience. If you lock a child in the house there entire young life and torment them, they to will see every face as an enemy or lieing.
While that might be true... To me it just seems like a boring and lonely way to live. I'd rather trust and be dissappointed than to trust no one at all. Not to say you should trust everyone tho
But it's down to you as the free thinking adult to decide who you want in your life. Not everyone is a bastard. My childhood was filled with physical and sexual abuse. But as an adult, I choose not to let it hold me back anymore... Or use it as an excuse for not growing beyond my childhood.
You just learned that I learned that at age whatever I was in preschool where I asked for chocolate milk and the teacher lady said there was no more butt 2 mins later her bitch ass is sucking down that last chocolate milk I told her I will never trust a word she says to me again or any word anyone tells me even my own parents. And you know what everyone lies. Everyone.
Antisocial in this context is referring to antisocial personality disorder. Antisocial personality disorder in extreme cases can mean psychopathy and normally refers to sociopathy.
Thats exactly what happened to me, I remember myself as little monster, I was rejected at school, and now I see only enemies, liers and prey in humans on streets, I can barely trust anyone, and at the same time think how could I use someone in any way.
Here is the thing I would like to socialise with people but most people to me are dumb, mean and they don't talk about things I like to talk about. I love being alone. Being alone allows me to think about me.
So many people here who don’t understand what antisocial behavior means in the clinical sense. You can be an extreme extrovert and still be anti social. The term basically means anything that someone does that is against the greater good of society - such as violence, lying, manipulating etc.. Therefore just because you’re kind of awkward and don’t like going out doesn’t make you antisocial at all
Even when an "Asocial" label is applied to you it's considered negative to most, everyday people who tend to generalize. If you happen to be introverted you know this better than anyone. Not wearing the same wool as everyone else? You're still a threat to fear-based people, even if you're minding your own business and hurting no one.
@@angrybanana5476 he's worshipping society. He forgot that Newton was asocial and doesn't even have a wife. Tons of smart people are introverted because who cares about society if they don't care about you
That’s a very obvious cry for attention, hope you realise that.... girls are usually very lowkey about wanting attention and it’s like a puzzle to guys but come on she’s point blank making it obvious she wants you to comfort her.
@Alec nolastname that happens if a lady is attention deprived for a longer while. For example, if she dates a narcissist, then she must make a scene to be seen by him
I was severely behaviorally dysfunctional from ages 3 to 6 from complications from my 1st brain surgery. What Dr. Peterson talks about in the last 2 minutes of this video reminds me of what I recently learned from Piaget's developmental models: children from ages 3 to 5 start their social lives through group play; every year beyond age 5 is a continuation of this social learning process. I've since wondered: has my social confusion (let alone anxiety) stemmed from lacking social acceptance in this initial friend-making phase?
True. From beginning to end. True My family was so ashamed for my disease they didn't even allow me to tell it to relatives. Pars of my family died without knowing and more will follow. I got bullied in school for 9 years whilst on big amounts of medication. I had zero social life. I'm scared I will be a psychopath. I can't build a social life on my own. I'm scared of the broken human brain I am.
The first step to growth is to realize that you need it. Don't let your past traumas block you from the life you desire. Open up to the world and try new things
How many of us grew told how much men were a net negative on the world, to sit quietly and still in class while our instincts told us otherwise, told taking anti-depressants and SSRI's were good for us?
And then people get surprised that desperate men lose their mind and join gangs, become terrorist or other types of criminals, commit shootings and so on. Those men have been told their entire life, that they're pretty much the source of all evil. Do you expect them, to not take something like that personal? And then they put them on Anti-depressants and SSRI's, like the OP pointed out, which can seriously fuck up someones brain. But you know, whenever such a tragedy occurs, where some guy kills tons of people, no one is allowed to question the Anti-male system, or the dangerous precise with those meds. No, those people just do that, because they're douchbags, because they had nothing better to do at that moment, because they have been playing too much video games and whatever scapegoat they feel like throwing in.
Ali Moradi Be careful, because therapists don't give a damn about your well being. They have zero reasons to be motivated. They get paid whether you get healed or commit suicide. So don't let them force you to do anything you don't want to. And do your own research as well. Don't trust everything they say. Be skeptic.
There is a huge difference between being non-social and anti-social and yet some people are so quick to throw the "anti-social" label. Gladly there is Dr. Peterson to remind people of the truth.
Well that 4yo development cycle stuff makes a lot of sense about me. I had no friends and was bullied for the vast majority of my school life. Also the thing about every face being negative or lying is exactly the mentality I had and quite honestly still have to this day So he’s bang on with this as usual 😂
I finally have enough knowledge of my past and real life experience to fully understand this video, which has led me to better understand myself. Thank you.
I rewatched this because I came across the question. What if a person had values that were in line with a sociopath? My answer, and being consistent with Peterson, is that the games we play that improve social development would not last long, and we would have to keep moving from place to place to sustain that value.
I started to become antisocial because no one would listen (like actually listen) they would always say they would but it wasn’t true, they never made any effort to change, they’d only say they do, and I just stopped seeing any real point in conversation. I speak to everyone very comfortable online, but unless I have to, I wouldn’t open my mouth to say a word.
Tbh I've been anti-social for as long as I can remember. My parents had a turbulent divorce in my early childhood, which led to a lot of residual psychological problems I contend with today, at 28. I served in the military, worked many other jobs, and am now back in college for IT. One thing that angers me isn't the fact that I'm anti-social, its when people think I'm dangerous because of it. My family gives me dirty looks, and speak ill about me behind my back, despite me never doing anything to wrong them. Everyone thinks I'm strange, which I'm okay with, but I'm not dangerous. I've never been angry at anyone because they won't accept me. I don't want people to. It wouldn't be genuine if anyone came to me and tried to yank me out of my world. Sometimes there are people that can't be saved. I've accepted the reality that I will never love anyone past the platonic level. My life is worse off for it, but I could be alot worse off still. I think the difference between this sob story and being an incel is the acceptance to what you are. Everyone tries to play the victim card. I'd rather live out the consequences of my personality. I can't rectify myself, so help me I have tried. Call me a nihilist, but I've seen much worse off people than myself.
@@aidangreen4570 but i'd say you should still make sure someone is able to properly raise a child. Why do we put so much paperwork on someone that wants to adopt but not to see if someone is actually fit to have a child of their own?
Because even stupid and completely inept people can stumble around and shag, driving takes an element of skill and can be measured. And in many places you don't need a license to drive ... it's a bigger World than just where you live.
because it's not the government's job to regulate it, simple as that. instead of making it illegal to have a child without proper permission, we should focus on properly educating people before they have children
This is what happened to my twin brother, he had leukemia at the age of four and couldn’t socialize for 2 years! and so when he was put in school. everybody just didn’t find him normal and that still goes on today. No one accepts him
I'm 29 now so I really don't care all that much anymore if people dont like me or think I'm weird .i don't feel like I'm weird or not normal but I do see that I'm not doing what everyone else my age is doing like getting married and having kids .being social is the last thing on my mind now .I'm more worried about bills and making my life somewhat better .there is no time to worry about being social .
Am I normal in some ways ? Sure Do I actively go seek trouble ? Hell no Do I want to work and save for investments ? Hell yes and working on it 😍 Am I going to spend myself into the poor house on dates and women ? No 👎
Maybe someday I'll allow a woman around me in life but with how the system is and divorce court I'm not putting a ring on the finger. Fuck that, I'll risk child support horse shit that I can recover from once it hits as I'm well informed and I know how the system is manipulated so easily against men.
They show no fear of authority at all. They are extremely self serving and focused. Never have seen anything like it before in my life. Yes, learned it in psych and child development class. If certain behaviors are not learned and taught before or by age five, their will be trouble. I am glad he mentions how that includes appropriate social conduct. These skills should develope naturally in a child by age five, with the right guidance, unless there are some developmental factors that interfere with the natural stages of development, including inappropriate parenting, and environmental factors. Example, being raised by anti-social parents. He's right. It works. I like how he emphasizes how important appropriate social skill are in life. Not having social skills severely stifles one's life. A person may have talent/skill, but can't move forward due to anti-social behaviors. Very nice observations.
By him explaining about behavior of children I realized that in first grade I was in a different planet and not socializing with any other kids. I had to learn what was socially acceptable again when I finally came out of my shell in high school. Which took some time
My dad would always make fun of me for the lymphedema (swelling in my legs from the knee down) i developed after my 2nd open heart surgery. He would call me names like Big Foot…. His pos of a gf would tell me daily that “no one likes you” so yeah it has left me fucked up…. I don’t feel like I’m getting any better because I literally have no one in my life. Like literally not a single fucking soul to share life with. I’m always mute and I’m afraid I’ll lose my voice because I never talk. I really wish I had someone who could help me feel love and heal me. This life is fucked up yo
My father was diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder. He’s a great business man, horrible father and husband. He told us it wouldn’t affect him if we died. I asked him if he hated us he said no but I don’t feel tied to you in anyway. I told him ditto.
This makes me realize that I had a great childhood, have great parents, had really good friends as a kid, was very social, I put myself out there a lot. But after moving to the US, I just became silent
People in the comments don’t realize that there are two primary definitions of the word “antisocial”. The main definition which is used in psychology and criminology is someone who goes against the laws and customs of society. Criminals are antisocial in this sense. Hence the term “antisocial personality disorder”. Then there’s the colloquial definition of the word antisocial which is someone who doesn’t like social interactions. Jordan Peterson is using the first definition. He’s not referring to introverted people. He’s referring to people who break the rules.
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He's talking about Psychopathy and Antisocial personality disorder.
He's not talking about Introverts, the Asocial or people with social anxiety.
People in the comment section: i aM aNtISociAL ToO
Early childhood bad seeds...
Parents who didn't by them an octagon until after they turned 5.
You can't expect me to know what "Anti social personality disorder" even means,
@@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் new normal, radical acceptance?
@@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் .......learn
The child who is shunned by his village will burn it down to feel it's warmth.
Your words have gave me some insights. Thank you.
@@akshooter7746 don't shoot down your town either
@@coloradostatesenatorsteven7443 nah for real, I’ll make sure to not meet people often so I don’t have to carry the blame of anything happening to anyone, neither that I’ll expect anything from anywhere or anyone
That sounds amazing 😎😈
is it a little cold in here to you guys???
The reason why I become more and more antisocial is because society feels completely fake and just weirds me out. People say they don't want to be reduced to their looks, but all they present to the outside are their looks. People say they want true and meaningful conversations, but can't even take the slightest form of negativity or criticism cause it shatters their shallow and weak happiness. They say love and respect everyone but treat people that don't follow the norm like outcasts. They are sending completely opposing signals to everyone out there, while still expecting to be understood and respected. I'm in my mid 20s and I can literally feel how I become dumber and dumber the more time I spend with what you would call the average young adult. They all seem to be interested in having a good time, live and let live, positivity and I just feel alienated and don't understand their mindset. It's like I'm an old soul in a society of newborn.
Edit: Many people pointed out that this is not antisocial behaviour. I don't delete the comment because even if it's not the same topic, many of you can relate and feel similar.
It's been a long time since I wrote this, many things changed and some stayed the same. Hopefully it all works out in the end. God bless you.
Underrated comment 💯
I can understand you. Everyone was born different but many of them ultimately decide to live as alike.
Yeah bro I felt this,
Only if this generation knew having a true friend is better than a smartphone or how many fake likes they get.
I'm 16, I feel the same way
Holy crap this is exactly how I feel 😂
I remember that as a kid despite being a little bit shy I was sociable and had no problems talking and understanding others but years of bullying, ostracism Ande parental problems lead me to develop some anti social behavior(I became also less social) as I am very angry at those who treated me unfairly. Ironically those who said that the antisocial people are dangerous, are the one who created them with their own antisocial behavior.
I get messed with a lot but the people who would dislike me on sight are extremely easy to become friendly by you being friendly first, then you really gotta leave because they'll 'latch on' (no shame tho, we all do it), but if you have no energy just dip, if you feel like expressing you anger and fighting, sometimes do it, but you really gotta work (it's bad but I believe everybody needs a variety of experiences at least once, not everything tho, accidents are not good)
Teaching kids to fight is the solution to this problem. Young boys are pacified and taught to tell an adult and the adults don’t do Jack shit. The teachers let the problem continue when if the kid just punched his bully straight in his jaw as hard as he can I bet they’ll think twice and everyone will respect you more, at the very least they’ll leave you the fuck alone
Use the hatred to be better.
Go build your body at the gym. Maybe swimming or sprints. These will blow the steam. (I like rock climbing but I'm broke) *Or a fighting sport in order to learn how to protect yourself from physical abuse such as being able to hit back.*
Learn something new. Photo Editing(Gimp is free) or 3D Modelling(Blender's free too) are some stuff you can pick up on with a few tutorials.
Reading books on topics or genres you're interested in.
I dealt with this as well I was such a happy kid but as you say years of bad experiences made me close off the world.
Similar experiences and agreed
This hit pretty hard. As a kid I was "diagnosed" with ADHD. I was given Ritalin as a kid. My father told me he only allowed it for two days because he didn't like that I wasn't acting like a kid anymore, but what he didn't know was that my mother kept giving me Ritalin just so I would sit down and shut up. He said that when I was taking the Ritalin, I didn't want to run around and play. I just sat on the couch and spaced off or stared at the TV for hours. One things for sure, I will never do the same when I have children.
so were u benefited by taking it or not?
Edit: OK! I get it! I don't know what shit ritalin was. If i knew i wouldn't have asked. I didn't knew. And i just asked. I wasn't rude to anyone. Why r u guys being rude to me?? If u get offended because someone doesn't know about something and acted stupid(and also realized his mistake and apologized later on), just ignore this comment and f*** off
Also thanks to those who answered me😄 it really helped understand the concept
Same bro, fuck the school system. That drug definitely fucked me up as a kid.
@@Jaechhetai obviously not smh…
@@Jaechhetai no. Anything that suppresses you so much like that is dangerous.
I would say it did not. It suppressed my natural outgoing behavior as a child. I’m antisocial as an adult now and my parents wonder why. I’ve been watching a lot of videos to help me redevelop my social skills in order to be the monster Jordan Peterson talks about.
The new generation of kids whos parents listened to Jordan Peterson is going to be a lot better than ours.
Your so right om that one. Assuming the parrents care to put in that effort.
Oh shit that's me - best start listening LOL
Please explain how
Then why is his daughter all fucked up? He clearly failed as a father, and seems to be mostly motivated by money & ego.
Xayn memon saying that antisocial people are bad ain’t helping no one
"The reason I talk to myself is because I’m the only one whose answers I accept." -George Carlin
RIP
Plus you always win a verbal agreement LOL.
Nobody predacon Megatron what I in joy an intellectual conversation after being asked why he talks to him self
You expect me to write a good story about someone else, but that's pretty difficult considering the best company I'm around 24/7 is me.
Yea that’s just narcissism lol
He just described my childhood, rejected from the other kids and their parents too, feeling unwanted and hated just made me exactly how they treated and worse adding a ruthless violence and absence of any regret or sense mercy for nobody.
None but hate, poverty and anger.
Thank God He blessed me and guided me out the darkness and now I definitely see what this life is really about, love, faith and justice
I escaped this darkness in my early 20s, by developing coping strategy and surrounding myself with support of people. But now after Covid, that strategy for some reason doesn’t exist anymore. Regression into something that you never should’ve been in the first place
@@Desmondbrown73 I'm so sorry for that brother, but remember that the most important thing is that if you made it in your early 20s to change your life for the better well you can do it again these are hard times to be alive but believe me there will be some harder days ahead we gotta stay strong together, sadly our governments are showing up for what they are nothing but a totalitarian dictatorship and so you just as everybody else are required to stay strong fight back for our lives, freedom and future you are not alone brother! We will fight through this hell of a life together and we will succeed
@@unknownpornstar2327 No need to be that rude and matter of fact you don't know him so how can you tell if he is antisocial or not? Try to be more constructive and choose your words wisely if you gotta comment I may suggest, in my case I was and still am antisocial and I'm lonely but I enjoy being this way can't say the same for many others who are antisocial but are desperately looking for some sort of relationship/friendship and that's a whole another story
@@thegreatunknown6195 Yh there’s nothing wrong with that but this vid is about antisocial PERSONALITY DISORDER also known as psychopathy, you need to distinguish the two as they are very different and people with the disorder are sick; hurt animals; extremely charming/manipulative to get their own way and very selfish. Is that you? If it is then unlucky mate that’s a miserable life
@@unknownpornstar2327 let get this straight I will re elaborate my sentence, I'm socially antisocial, not at an advanced psychological stage where I developed any kind of disturb or personality disorder that's for sure and yeah a miserable life nonetheless
This seems to summarize Peterson's ideas in a nutshell: old-fashioned parenting has at least *some* concerning elements, but rejecting ALL tradition has serious side-effects.
Weve carried on most traditions through time because they work
@@alexhoppe6214 Actually, tradition is mostly carried through time because of the fear of the unknown.
And, what does it mean to "work"? That it works well enough for the survival of our species? Or that it brings a healthy society?
Congrats, tradition, you didn't make us extinct. But is it the best? Is it even good? Well, that's from tradition to tradition, as arguing if 'tradition' is good or bad is an overgeneralization.
But tradition mostly continued through time because we didn't really think about it. We simply tend to repeat what was taught to us, even if it's unnecessarily cruel, stupid, hurtful, at times even hateful and destructive, working against a healthy society, simply because we didn't really think about it. It's not that it worked, it's that we didn't know any better.
With the spread of education and information in the last century, tradition is finally being put as something to question, and so we will get the actual answer to the question we never even bothered to ask, but always assumed the answer. Does it actually work?
Just checking in here. I'm considered a leftist. I don't even listen to J.P. I always thought that conservatism is the will to keep things that reason and experience proved useful or beautiful. I never found peace by constantly seeking new things. Hardcore progressism is an agitated state, it really is exhausting. I like the modern individuality of being able to make choices for myself, but at the same time, I find some peace in living by standards that thousands of years of humanity bequeathed us. Anyway, progressist or conservatives we all have to deal with the same existential crisis. We should recognize that and care for each other. Love ya kings.
@@alivepenmods 👏👏👏
@@artistry7919 Japan is the perfect case for Tradition, America is the perfect case for doing and being the unknown. So yes, you should know if you give it a little thought what's good and bad about both. Just compare the 2.
I just like peace and quiet...
zAntiSxcial v thank you...
Found the dangerous criminal
zAntiSxcial v Exactly.
Oof, you sound a little triggered, my guy. I think you spend a bit too much time playing Fallout, you sound exactly like the type of person Jordan here is speaking about.
Do mommy and daddy allow you to use that kind of language? Or do you only use it when you're alone in your room planning a school shooting?
Antisocial is different than Asocial. Understand that before watching this video.
Supersonic Knockout no it’s not
@@Jdubski-dk7ml ok Michael, i just looked it up. asocial means not social. antisocial means actively being against society.
THANK YOU. Fucking mouthbreathers.
I was about to say that.
@@supersonicknockout5143 a means without, like in the word atomos, atom, not able to be cut. get it straight
If I'm dangerous for being antisocial, then humanity is even more dangerous for making me not wish to take part in society's toxic and self destructive behaviors.
I know that's right.
I feel that brother.
Preach
completely misunderstood the point being made The american education system at play
He's not talking about Introverts or socially anxious people. He's talking about Sociopaths which comes from Psychosis. Anti social people are Narcissist, manipulative. They have no empathy. It's a psychological disorder.
I remember as a child care worker, we had one woman come in to speak to us about how to engage children. And she talked about ADD. I remember her saying, "You know drugs don't work. The best thing you can do is go up to that kid and tell him to go up the stairs, to the office, and fetch the paper. So he goes running up the stairs as fast as he could, comes back down. Then you say, 'Oh, did you get the pens?' Then he goes right back up the stairs to grab the pens."
Because one thing I found with ADD kids, particularly boys, is that they just love to prove themselves. They have to prove they're the fastest. Or that they can draw the best. Or they can do things. And if you give them these small tasks, that they can reasonably do with their attention span, they won't let you down. Not normally at least.
Very very very interesting. My mom did the same thing😅
this makes me think I have ADD because that was exactly me as a kid. Always needed to prove something to anyone, competitive as fuck and strived to be the better than anyone in anything(still happens now but on smaller scale). Is this an identifier of ADD or can it be that i don't have it? Never been diagnosed and I'm so happy for that, my parents would just let me be this crazy ass kid.
You have to be a woman .
Yep, and drugs can help many as well.
Only thing drugs will do is give that child the roughest social experience possible for the rest of their time In school
-How old is your kid?
-He´s "civilised little monster" years old.
unfunny nb laughed
Bro I imagine a lot of people watch this video and they think antisocial means you prefer to be by yourself 😂😂
Edit 3 years later: So after sometime I still stand by what I mean kinda…..
Not here to argue. Just when I think of antisocial I generally think of the disorder which is characterized as a form sociopathy/psychopathy
By technical definition “antisocial” could just be someone who doesn’t really want/enjoy other’s company
But avoiding confusion I think asocial or another term would’ve been better over “antisocial”
Thats the sensationalized definition that all the Instagrammers like to label themselves with
As someone that used to be actually antisocial along with severe depression and anxiety, it drives me up a fucking wall when people are like "#antisocial lol!" Because no genuinely antisocial person on the planet would have social media apps, let alone use a hashtag. I had Instagram strictly for memes and never posted anything nor tried to friend people from my school
New generation gamers, they just don't have time to be social 🙏🧐
Man look at the comments most people here think that, they don’t understand what actual “Anti-social behaviour” means
@@DoktrDub It's known to start at a very young age, then it can develop into pathology or conditioned out from the child's progressive development. Then a tonne of sh#t can happen at any point in one's life and have serious complications with coping mechanisms or not.
Without denying anything, I guess people here would rather tone down the serious nature of having antisocial personality disorders. 🙏
He is so right, I was the 3yr old monster that went undisciplined and unsocialized as a child. Went on to be a real troublemaker and struggled with social anxiety and antisocial behavior till my mid 20s. His comment about rejection from peers and fake smiles from adults is dead on. Won't make that mistake with my kids.
Haha u tell me. U told me my life story.
As an individual who was born into a home of chaos and abuse, I can say with absolute certainty that J Pete's is right. Around 4 years old I had seen so much hatred and fighting between my parents that I believed people who love eachother hurt eachother. It was hard to make friends because I thought you were supposed to yell and hit your loved ones. Time passed and around 4th grade I started getting bullied by older kids. They would punch me and push me, one time they threw me down a rocky hill into a thorn bush and laughed at me. But I just kept going back to them everyday because I believed they were my friends. Time passed and I started smoking weed in 7th grade, which made me close myself off from the world. Eventually I just stopped communicating, I could speak but I didnt communicate. 8 years later and I'm a recovering addict with a criminal history. Moral of the story, dont let your shitty personality get in the way of raising a kid. Bless up everyone
I wish things would've been better, These days life just seems rough now.
I grew up in a abusive home too. Jesus can heal you he loves you too!! If you accept him as your lord and savior he will save you from your sins and create in you a new heart. He can heal you from the abusive past and give you peace!
Same and guess what, you're not alone man. I'm so emotionally detached I can't even express how I feel sometimes. String of family neglect and verbal abuse from the beginning, I'm just trying to break the cycle. It's tough not being able to keep relationships or friendships even though the capability is there, I just lack the emotional self esteem part despite my intelligence. Even though I look good 6 pack and everything, confidence is my biggest downfall. all you can do now is do things the right way when you have kids. Even though you may not want one, just don't be like our parents.. I know damn well I'm going to try my best not to have my kid end up like me If I ever do have one. Life can be so enjoyable I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy to grow up angry, addicted and perusing violence as a way out.
@@fishmoneybagz_ God loves you man, I grew up verbally abused as well being told to kill myself repeatedly. I called on Jesus before I was gonna end my life in my car and he revealed himself to me. A physical weight lifted out of me and I never wanted to commit suicide after that. Call on Jesus man he died for your sins and he will save you from them. He can give you peace and heal your wounds inside and make you feel alive again. If we ask him to forgive our sins and repent (turn away) we can be forgiven. Our sin separates us from God but Jesus died to restore you and give you his spirit so you can have perfect connection with him. His death is what we deserved but he removed Gods wrath away from us and put it on himself. He took our punish and paid for our sin if you place your faith in him and ask him to forgive you and to save you.
After you put your faith in Jesus that he died for your sins go get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:38 John 3
Being born again is when God makes you a completely new creation with the Holy Spirit and makes the old pass away, no longer do you carry the weight of sin. He gives you freedom. He can heal depression anxiety and everything.
I encourage you to read the four Gospels
Mathew Mark Luke & John.
After you give your life to Jesus continue to study the Bible and pray daily.
He can walk you through your pain and give you strength when you have zero. He’s been healing me and now I’m completely off bipolar meds.
the problem is some people with shitty personalities dont realise it sadly
This is why sports are so important for young men. It gives them a outlet for that energy and helps them get used to interacting with other's in a constructive way.
Yeah sorry buddy I’m literally not into sports, i mean I used to, but we’re not going into that 😤😤😤, anyways I prefer hanging out with friends on bikes and theater that’s the closest thing to joining sport I’ll do. But I’ll play actually but not for competition, But I don’t even play that much video games too, like at most I’ll play 0-1 hour a day.
The problem I experienced with school sports as a child was that I was very good at most of them and pushed by overly competitive adults to formulate hatred for the opposing teammates, who were neighborhood friends on the other side of the road that divided the school districts. This was in the late 70s, skateboarding was just emerging, so I dropped out of organized sports in high school and put all of my energy into skating... and eventually skateboarding became as competitive and organized as standard sports. I totally understand how competition is a driver for people to succeed, but if it is ingrained at an early age that the other team is an enemy, then we're just training psychopaths.
He's talking about sociopaths and the like, not about lonely men
Uh I've played baseball every year sense I was a kid and I never had a good connection with the other players, I always sucked at sports and the coaches didn't want to spend any time on a kid that sucks so how was I suppose to get better if I'm not being trained
@@ikeeditz2012 same
He's describing so many CEOs and managers I have had the displeasure of working with.
Its true science has proved you need to be somewhat a sociopath to attain that level of success.
You don't need it, but it's a plus. The hierarchy system is built to put the smartest people that can also control their emotions at the top. The problem is that socio/psychopaths are basically handicaped so it may be usefull sometimes but most of the time it is a problem
@@issoulescondes3913 but it’s the sociopaths and psychopaths that seek that type of control and power. Most sane people no matter how smart and qualified don’t want those positions.
@@sridharprasanth8833 nah not true being antisocial makes actually doing something like this harder
@@squadup22 you can't control people in these type of positions it's more like people control you
" *Never assume that loud is strong and quiet is weak* "
Facts.💯🦾🦾
The thing is most people are not fun to be around, we just stick around because we're being nice, yet we hate being fake.
💯💯
Exactly idk why it’s so hard to cut someone off
He isn't talking about introverts
@@Loww_9 iss hard cutting ppl off bc even if they toxic you had a point in life where you really connected wit them, shits sukKs man :/
He's not talking about introverts (Asocial)
He's talking about psychopaths and sociopaths (Antisocial)
A very important thought: confidence should not be confused with competence. Liked
mp biggame This is so true and used to absolutely flabbergast me bcoz i could not understand how someone could be confident without being competent. I always thought that confidence comes from proving your own competence over time - but thats coz i was like that. Some people r just born confident and its not always earned.
@Rowan Melton Yes i agree with that
You can be confident. But that doesn’t make you good at anything. You still have to put in the work and be persistent and consistent. Confidence is the first step. It’s only gives you the courage to begin. While competence, gives you the ability to strive.
u gain confidence, u don't earn it. U can even be confidently assertive, winning or loseing isn't the goal but the experience. if ur not self confident, u have serious self esteem issues for caring what others think. All u have to do is be yourself and u won't have to struggle with any self esteem issues.
@@andrestorres2204 smart
We carry many of our horrible childhood habits into adulthood because we never matured into adults.
We are basically adaptive adult children who are taking on a set of behaviors to protect the wounded inner child.
My theory is thats how pedos are made. Their attraction to other children didn’t disappear because the pedo developed an unhealthy childish side.
Sociopaths are worst at least psychos are good
We get our first and final opportunity to be real
Mature and adult when we are in our 60,s. I gre up a couple of years ago I am 64
@@threat645 that crossed my mind as well.
@@frankmills1149 ok boomer
This explains so much about my mental health. I was born with autism, back in the early 90s when most people didn't even know what autism was. When I started school, I was constantly bullied and beaten just because I was socially awkward. I got bullied, harassed and smacked at every school I went to, just because I kept missing social cues or misinterpreting body language. Now, at the age of 30, I hardly ever leave my apartment, I genuinely believe that 90% of humans are pure evil, and I have to smoke weed everyday because if I don't I can't stop fantasizing about killing people.
Sorry buddy
Bloody hell
Stop smoking weed that only increases your anxiety even if you believe it to be helping, remember your past doesn't define who you are now. Read the book the power of now. Hating and wanting to kill people only leads to more suffering for you, if you hate people killing people would make you a worse person then these people. Treat people with kindness and respect and you will get the same energy back. if you don't then they don't deserve your love. I hope some positive comes your way, change your inner mindset and your outer world will change.
Lmao i feel you too, i do same thing as you i sometime fantasizing of killing people in my mind, especially when people just made me into trouble.
@@tomjwjss bro that will not gonna help people with that issue has big adrenaline which mean he has more energy to kill people than the normal people.
It's easy for people to confuse confidence with competence.
frumos nume
Far too easy. Take Donald Trump for example.
@@flatmoontheory you are only saying this because this is what you hear in the media amd radio.
Do a proper research and after that you will not criticise him.
@@adevariubire9236 Wrong. I know this because I've watched him speak hundreds of times. You've been duped.
@@flatmoontheory tell me positive aspects about him
8:55
"don't hit other kids with a truck in the head anymore than the ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY"
fucking golden
i know
I had to chuckle on that one.
LOL I was just about to point that out myself. Like lets not COMPLETELY rule that out.
Anime tool this personal
Classic Petersonism
Listening to Jordan Peterson makes me realize that parenting is extremely difficult and pushes me more to not want to have children on fear of failing as a father.
Go for it
Your life will be much more enjoyable without children.
@@deeprollingriver5820 hopeful people can see that point most people ignore
Children arent for everyone. Im a father and I LOVE children!
I think a better question would be how do you find a proper partner that will help you raise them.
Dysfunctional families a lot of yikes come from "Go for it" mindset without vetting your partner.
I've listened to a lot of your material... but as someone with ADHD, this hit me so hard... a lot of obvious yet disregarded memory just came together like a freaking mystery novel. Thanks for assisting with another breakthrough Jordan
ADHD is made up by dumb people in authority, to control children who are just energetic and confident and need to be busy to burn off the energy. Find your own path or way in this life and live it to the fullest. Don't listen to stupid people, they are confused hypocrites!!!
@@katashi222 that has to be the dumbest shit I’ve read all day, and worst part is I know you won’t change your mind
@@LARA-sg4bt I agree, to know the dummy who is talking just stand Infront of your mirror and you will see the dummy looking back at them....You!!!😀🥴🥱😴
@@katashi222 sick burn my guy
@@LARA-sg4bt Ok run along now your 15 mins of Fame is over.....so long it's only social media....which means nothing to me!!!
Hes speaking of sociopaths, not introverted people. Lol..
"The Famous RUclipsr Ryan Fahey outsmarts one of the worlds top clinical psychologist" LOL
Kristoffer B what? Im not going against what he's saying im talking to the people in the comment section who think hes reffering to people who are antisocial as opposed to having antisocial personality disorder
@@PE93 He just wanted to say that he is talking about Anti-Social people , not on aSocial and introverts...
While theres many people think Anti-Social = Introvert wich is wrong...
Psychologists made this name so confusing while they are the best Extroverts in this earth lul....
Kristoffer B You didn’t get it.
Exactly these comments are annoying.
One of the greatest skills that we learn in public school is being able to socialize with people we don't like.
LOL
I’m 23 years old and see almost everyone as hostile and also don’t trust someone when they are being nice
Sounds like you've been thru some shit. Sorry to hear.
Isn't everyone?
Honestly same. I'm 22 and i was a normal child who would talk and play with everyone regardless of people i knew or not. I was "designed" to be the perfect child and human being who would make no mistakes and listen to every single thing the parents would say. It was all going well untill i grew up and realised that the more perfect you are, the more they neglect you and get jealous of you. They all just plan and plan and plan to put you down hence i lost my faith in people and i do not talk anymore. The person explaining all this in the video is 99% correct on this concept and i know if i do something to them, i will go down a path of no return and there will be no one left to stop me. All that will be left will be endless despair waiting for me as the consequences of my actions
@@XnonTheGod Same question
Yeh same everyone is naturally inclined to be hostile until proven otherwise
I have found out in life that, unfortunately, if you don't fit in with the madness, so to speak, the only way many people come near you is to help themselves, whether they realize is or not!
As a young man who was diagnosed with oppositional defiance disorder early on, a prelude to true antisocial behavior. I have struggled living in my own head my entire life. I am now 23 and through many ruined relationships, selfish habits and addiction and just trouble with the law I have legit finally figured it out. Been sober, got out in the world and made real connections, started hustling, Learned to feel my emotions again and life is looking up. It's easy to grow up broke And become cold and psychopathic. I was almost one. I had to have some sever life turning points to get here
I'm in the same exact boat, basically have no real friends, the only people I really fit on with was gangsters, physcopaths, and crazy folk, everyone else seems fake, lying, or hostile.
@@asherjack2378 yoo dude it gets better just put your mind to some good shit and follow through, be that person that lifts up everyone around you. That dude who has no beef just a good heart
thank you for these words man
Yo bro how did u get out of your head after all them years? And feel real connections again and feel present? I can’t get out of my head and just feel emotionless when I’m out and disconnected. Thanks
@@blufunds6639 stop doing drugs, get a daily routine u make sure u follow These 2 steps alone Will already help And all tahts left besides perhaps youre money Problem would be to socialize bit taht Will ve easier eventually
Most of my childhood was spent in front of The Idiot Box and now my elder years are spent in front of The Idiot Screen.
@Eduard Medrea LOL!
Idiot box is a reference to the radio?
researchers consistently fail to address the magnitude of this issue.
People ultimately need love and validation. When a man doesn't matter to a woman, when she doesn't gaze at him with a loving smile, tell him she wants him/needs him, that he matters to her.
A lot of guys have never had that.
This will cause disillusionment/isolation/soul sadness and mental health issues in men. No amount of material things, por* will be able to replace that.
The problem in the west is 2 fold. Incels can't get a woman and the ones that do get one, end up in divorce/breaking up or being cheated on and losing more than the lady. So they swear off relationships and end up lonely all the same. (Mgtow)
Both have the effect of creating lonely, angry, atomised ppl and broken society with plummeting birth rates. And can spell the end of that society.
What are we seeing in the west now?
Falling sperm counts, falling testosterone levels, births, marriage, and a rapidly ageing society, with catastrophic debt levels.
White ppl used to have close family bonds but now they no longer keep ties with family and send old ppl to homes.
Jobs for life are a thing of the past, from where they used to form friends.
White ppl lost their matchmaking culture and used to marry form within their own tried and tested social circle.
With all that now gone, internet dating and cold approaching/PUA random women that u know nothing about is the way. Which can be toxic.
There is a difference from antisocial and introvert.
Are u shy ?
Maybe I can help u
Yup I don't know if it's only me but I'm an introvert and I don't like talking to others but when I want to I actually get to have a good conversation and my mouth is like a machine gun. Sometimes it's just a matter of willingness. Introverted people are actually the people who has a lot to say.
Chris Johnson I feel the exact same way. My family always gets upset with me when I do not respond properly to them. I rarely talk to people because it makes me extremely uncomfortable. But I know specific topics extremely well. If somebody wants to argue with me they end up feeling like an idiot. They just learn what they hear at high school, college, and on Twitter. They never learn for themselves. Thanks for letting me know it’s not just me.
Yep MrTripper77 My mom actually thought about taking me to a psychiatrist at 14 years old for being cold as hell and extremely quiet dude. My teachers in high school thought I was depressed and mentally ill because I wasn't showing any emotions in class and I rarely smiled. I kinda fixed it in college but most social interactions that I get into are either for business or for school. Not for friendships. Friendships are good, but I ain't into that life. I like some friends, but I don't want an army of fake ones.
I know how you feel like homie the moments when people talk the most are the moments where I want to respond the least because I don't want to deal with ignorant and angry people.
It’s a form of self protection, im tired of being hurt, I just choose to stay by myself.
I never learned how to interact with people very well. Wish I could but its hard to make friends or get past a first date when you don't have basic conversation skills. Now monologues and smart ass comments on the other hand i'm an expert at.
Yippers The best advice for socializing is asking other people about themselves. Especially to ask what do they love. Questions that get people to talk about themselves is comforting to most because it’s something they actually know about, and it shows you may not be overly narcissistic.
I would begin by becoming a writer. It will force you to create conversations and it will develope your creativity. Don't give up, you can still learn to be social.
Monologue, bc talk is cheap and the more u talk the more it rings teue
@@lookaway8936 I actually never thought of that before, writing is like creating situation which you can talk about and improve your social skills through thinking of stuff to write.
I was just like that cannot interact with peoples after that i stop thinking too much and started talking more and more which makes no sense. Now i can interact with peoples easily
I used to get bullied back in my school days a lot (Like at second to 5th grade) and it was at that time where I started to stay at home most of the time and play alone for example, as I couldn't trust anyone in the fear of getting bullied again.
After this finally faded away and those people and I went seperate ways, I remained to be the same person that I was back then.
I haven't really put much thought into it, nor have I talked to anyone about it. At the age of 17 I suddenly fell into deep depressions and just wanted everything to stop, as I felt very lonely and no one understood me.
That's when I put thought into my past again, and realized that I got this fucked up due to my past.
I tried talking to my parents about it aswell, but they just told me to get over it already.
Like "Why are you still clinging to these things from the past?", they asked.
Now I am 19 years old, I am still pretty antisocial since I don't feel like doing things with people I pretend to like.
Even texting is too hard for me, which causes these people to think that I am not interested in them.
But I am, it's just that I don't want to bother them (Weird to explain..).
I just lost overall interest in everything. I spend most of my time on my PC, browsing the internet without any real purpose or destination. Just wanting to waste my time somehow.
My speech skills aren't as great aswell. While I am able to hold a proper conversation with people I don't know, I am still very very anxious about it, cause I'm afraid of getting judged for every move I make.
Even though I tell myself that I shouldn't give so much thought about other people, and focus on myself.
It's like I have an evil goblin sitting in my head, telling me nothing but bad things to make me feel bad about myself and that I'm not deserving of any good that comes towards me.
That's a shame. I'm not a psychologist and I'm reluctant to give you advise but good luck and if you want to talk i'll try and reply.
What did he say about teaching them what hurts and what doesn’t? Subject yourself to the pain. You’ll eventually realize that it means nothing unless it comes from someone you hold in high regard or against something you hold in high regard.
Your past does not divine you, you deserve happiness.
YOU MUST CHALLENGE YOURSELF
Get your butt off the computer, and do something, learn something, make something, help someone. You'll never grow and, be happy otherwise. Oh if only I could advise my young self, at least I can give guidance to someone. Your insecurities will wash away, and in ten years you won't believe who you've become, and who you were.
Creator Nater what if you don’t care about anything
he kinda sounds like Saul Goodman
Lucid Soundz you make gr8 beats yo, hope you go far, it's cool to find channels you recognize commenting on other channels
Lmao true, I can hear a hint of Saul
You're right
You're god damn right*
Tee Saifele thank you man! i appreciate that
The way he says “Let’s just say you identify this cohort of agreessive two year olds” while doing the finger air draw thing with the square, is golden
The comments:
Nobody has a clue what the word antisocial means and some of them are pissed off about it.
Yeah pretty much exactly this.
Yep, exactly.
Seeing people argue is fun, drama is what feeds social media.
@@cat_loaf943 ppfftt shut the fuck up edgy 14 year's old
@@iam-retarded-but i like that. Edgy 14 year olds lol.
This is so true
I’ve dealt with supreme adhd and now that I’m 20 I’ve been looking towards sports and gym to getting myself involved physically
It’s helped with my anxiety, helped me become more focused, and truly understand how to utilize the rampant amount of energy I have throughout the day.
I had a undiagnosed Adhd till 6 months ago, where I finally started accepting myself and how alone I was on this as my parents didn’t care enough to seek help for the past 19 years of my life, I was obese nearly half of my life, I was always restless, I thought i needed to something but I didn’t know what,now Gym is all i got, it calms me down, After i do my daily exercises I feel amazing afterwards, more focused,stable and happy.
ilost 15kg of weight in past 3 months and heading to be my dream self while just using the gym as a fuel of my body, I’ve read about how people get addicted and grow tolerance to stimulants I saw the same addiction towards gym in myself despite being lazy and fat all my life.
I'm so grateful for my 4 siblings. I know exactly what JP means here. We always played together throughout childhood. Its absolutely necessary
I threw a full ketchup bottle at my sister when we were younger, in a rage. It exploded on the wall and we both just laughed. Then we cleaned it up quickly so we didn't get beaten. Sibling feuds are funny. She told on me for running away when I was 9. I had run away for an hour or so, but came back and hid in my closet. She told my mom and step dad I ran away and when they got pissed she told them I came back and was hiding. I got my ass BEAT for that one and SHE was the one that needlessly made them angry. Lol
This worries me for my nephew who is a only child and my sister is a single parent and she ignores him and is mentally ill.
I hate cursing and legit believe some words invite demons because when I used to curse like a sailor when I was lukewarm and un-lady-like. I noticed the more I cursed the more angry and vicious I got.
😱
The internet is making people socially withdrawn, anxious, and hyper critical. I haven't encountered a non-hostile, or truthful face in 7 years.
bit of a generalization
7 years ? You must not go outside much
@@zarekivey seriously?
Too many people worried about likes (especially 20 something year olds) nowadays. Can't even eat your food without posting it on social media first.
7 years 😂 jesus man, your standards of a genuine person may be to high.
The anti socials that I have encountered in my 53 years have all ways been very sensitive to criticism and had a chip on their shoulder .
I forgot to mention ,sneaky also .When one shakes your hand their other hand is behind their back holding a knife,if you know what I men?
Poor Lisa :)
So I'm confused, are they emotionally sensitive people who have had their feeling hurt, or are they crazies and going to stab you. Pick one?
@Marc . Seems like your comment hit a lot of nerves 😂 😂
I agree 100%
If my parents would have had the benefit of this information it would have been a very different childhood. Nevertheless as an adult I am grateful to have this wealth at my fingertips.
What an obnoxious thing to say.
if only parents not care about status position , they always put mask like good people and peace and happy when outside house but they know that they are evil :) they definitely good actor.
@@puppytooth.v6502 Hey, what an ironic thing to say :)
Parents basically become blind in their (i want the best for you or this is better for you) way of thinking,
like they (almost always) think like they know more than their children & that their opinion is more important thinking THEY know how to make the life of their children better,
which is just sad to see,
basically parents RUINING their children's life slowly without realizing much (and in some cases not even caring if it ruins their life or not)
Development of aggression & criminality it's mostly tied to intergenerational habits/traumas/neglect & early neurodevelopment, & inadequate self-regulation.
Look up rates of child abuse, neglect, intimate-partner violence... Is corporal punishment legal in your country? Is there sensationalisation of violence in your culture? What about laws against coercive control?
What about how much time & resources families have for their children in early life?
How about funding & support of education systems?
Accessibility of pediatricians, diet.
JP is useless for properly contextualizing why these statistics manifest. It's individual. Far more nuanced.
It's not the teacher's fault. Not just the parents' fault due to slipping through cracks.
Consider the CDC has huge programmes to read for countries to implement targeting/reducing/managing/preventing Ace's (Adverse Childhood Experiences).
And that it's mandatory to act on what's known to help protect kids if it's known.
So what's going on in Canada? We're "so civilized & polite."
A murder of a female by her male intimate partner occurrs in Canada every 6 days... Quebec has one of the worst rates.
Consider, 1 death/6 days:
• doesn't count aborted/failed attempts (puts the rate at every other day, basically)
On top of that:
• doesn't count different gender variations of the intimate partners
• doesn't count "missing," or those murders deemed accidents due to cover-up
• doesn't factor in the vicarious trauma, abuse & neglect of kids in these situations
In Canada:
• Corporal punishment = legal
• Laws against coercive control = just barely being considered in some areas
• Supports for the most vulnerable (a noted component of something that is "protective against" this violence) have massively decreased in the past 30yrs
• Our non-reformative prison system, plus it's overcrowded & bad criminals get let out again fast -- Police budgets keep growing but they're never targeting "prevention" enough for the real root (because then how would they get budget increases?)
• Our more individualistic society (particularly among C/conservatives) is more interested in ignoring the way the country could maximize human capital, by wanting to focus on maximizing individual capital at expense of those under them... Ignorant of statistics, the fluidity of things, & how proper support/infrastructure for everyone is an investment with a payoff many times beyond the initial investment... Which improves everything for everyone. Look at Alberta right now, demanding pay cuts from Doctors, gutting education... Letting COVID relief $ default to their party's debt at cost of taxpayers' lives & pretending it's because of smart investments (they paid down debt nearly double what they thought they would, during a pandemic no less -- fishy).
We need to value community. It takes a village. We need warmer hearts, broader cultures.
JP just contributed nothing useful or valid that common sense wouldn't tell you.
The real nitty gritties... Well if you think JP is groundbreaking, you're not as educated as you think. And it's sad
I'm antisocial cuz I realized the older I get the less I wanna be around people and the bullshit they bring with them. Rather be alone than be miserable with the wrong friends and significant other. It's not worth dealing with that just to have a social life
I'm anti-social because there's to many untrustworthy, stupid and hateful people in this world, I learned that I can't really trust or depend on no one including family, I'm anti-social because I stay away from people that don't want to do anything but use or cause grief to me, this is how majority of people I have encountered are, so I really try not to be bothered with people.
And so you go down in your own vicious cicle of social selfdestruction. which is kinda sad and in the end hurts you more then anyone else
Art juh how does does me avoiding untrustworthy people who want to do nothing but cause me grief and destruction negatively affects me?
you state you avoid everyone in your statement. that is the fact i'm talking about. there is nothing wrong with avoiding untrustworthy people, but avoiding every more progressive connectie connection is just more harmful for you then for anyone else and everyone needs people who he can trust from time to time. normally this is relationschips, family and dear friends who stand close to you. family you stated you can't trust for what reason what so ever you stated which is sad but there are families where that isn't posseble. But to neglect all other people off by default is kinda selfdestructive in the long run. Yes you will always find people who are untrustworthy but you will meet people who are worth trusting. maybe lower % then the untrustworthy but the fact is there are people out there. if you don't agree with this you also state you aren't trustworthy aswell.
Art juh I didn't say I stay away from all people there are a few people that I trust, but not many, I have seen many times where people trusted or thought they could trust others , but they soon realized they thought wrong and realized those people where not good for them. Even certain family that you think you could trust will be quick to turn there back on you, steal from you and do all kinds of things that just are not good. My point is there are some good people that you can trust and depend on, but majority of people you encounter including certain family members just are not like that.
that is a whole other tone then the first statement though and with that i can agree
I remember siting in school as a child, what a waste of time.
I had a crush on the nanny, as a child that is. Scool?
I hated every second of every minute of every hour of every day of every week of every month of every year I was in school.
@@MyRockstar777 Albert Einstein wrote, “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
based
@@MyRockstar777 more personalized is not a good idea
When are we going to start calling out that the medication of children for the purpose of controlling a child's natural biological behaviour is a crime against humanity!
No lol
You know nothing about mindfullness and self-controls
I agree, modern political correctness/the LGBT community would rather perpetuate the problem than accept that the child is going through a phase or simply needs to embrace their current gender. It's beyond me how anyone thinks changing someone hormones and giving them fake genitals will fix the problem.
Than you a lot, Prof. Peterson, for explaining my situation of personal development with ADHD. And flip you, dear school psychologists, flip you dearly!
Do you actually have AD/HD? Not everyone that has been diagnosed with it actually has it. If you're creative and/or have an imagination, public school will bore you to tears, and you will show signs of an attention disorder.
Jordan Peterson is probably more qualified to diagnose you than *any* school "psychologist"!
I have ADHD. I am now too old to be put on Ritalin. I like what you said about young boys needing robust play or else they'll develop attention disorders. I never got any robust play. My parents were of the opinion that children should be seen & not heard. Mom, in particular, never liked loudness around the house. She always said it upset her nerves. When my parents discovered that I might have an attention disorder, they also discovered that whereas insurance would cover the cost of medication, it WOULD NOT cover the cost to have me tested. Dad's job didn't pay enough for expensive things. They ALSO believed that my condition could be alleviated if I would just buckle down & STUDY HARDER -- that some EXTRA EFFORT would produce those A's. In the meantime I had NO IDEA that it wasn't ALL MY FAULT. I blamed myself for not TRYING HARDER, & often felt like I was the member of the family that might get hidden up in the attic. Thank you Dr. Peterson! I think that now I KNOW that it was never my fault. I should like to add that I DID get tested late in life & was on Ritalin for some years. I never got through college -- just a whole bunch of credits, but I did make Phi Theta Kapa!!
I feel very empathized with this comment. Can you give me some hints?
Im the exact same mate
Look into Revital Mind & Focus Up
good for you mate for getting into Kapa
Ritalin is more for children if you still feel as if you are battling your adhd and not winning at that, ask youd doctor about Adderall or Dextroamphetamine as they are more for adults, with the former being more popular, but my brother and I have taken the latter and have agreed it is better as it doesnt suppress the appetite as much
I'm a parent with a 8 year old diagnosed with ADHD. What advice would you give as some one who experienced it growing up? He's not allowed to rough house inside but him and his brother can rough house and be crazy anytime they want outside... We ended up pulling him out of school for disruptive behavior such as flipping desks in class. He's never had issues behaving at home, for example he once flipped a desk because the teacher asked him to sit down in class. At home I can ask him to sit down, do his homework and do his chores, sweeping, etc and he is perfectly happy to do his work and chores. He is being home schooled in a program designed for children with ADHD which helps. He's also allowed to rough house, etc outside in the yard with his brother as much as he wants just not indoors. As far as drugs go I'm against using drugs to control his ADHD since it's relatively easy to control at home through low carb diet. however at school he was off the walls. I've also questioned doctors about ADHD drugs and some of them can affect brain development permanently.
Again, he’s speaking of antisocial as defined in the DSM and used by behavioral health professionals, not “antisocial” as is understood strictly within the context of the English language and it’s definition of the word. He’s talking about people, < 2% or so of the population, that don’t bother following rules, caring about others and will take advantage of everyone around them without any awareness, insight or consideration of their actions and it’s effects on anyone other than themselves.
Yes, and those people aren't necessarily introverts either. Mostly, they're extroverts that are perfectly capable of engaging in social activities. They're just selfish, abusive, manipulative and blunt(which is due to their lack of empathy)
In most cases, they're sociopaths(developed) and psychopaths(genetic). However, some highly functioning autistic people also have the same lack of empathy. In any case, these people are extremely hard to spot as they never let you find out their true intent.
The reason why antisocial people are actively AGAINST the society unlike asocial people is primarily because of the difference in their thoughts& feelings. Because they don't have moral values as opposed to the society. They certainly find the concept of common sense utterly absurd. They're well aware that laws are also human-made.
@@venomouspassion5744 so... hes talking about priveleged rich kids most of the time and abused kids from poor social groups
@@tony_fanta Maybe traumatized kids at some point, if it's something developed(sociopaths). However, not exactly rich kids. Rich kids tend to be more narcissistic than antisocial. They're likely to be very frustrated when something doesn't go their way, or they can't get what they want. But antisocial people have more logical ways of coping. They might also use violence, anger and alike(if they're sociopaths) but they definitely won't cry around for being unable to get what they want, unlike rich kids. Antisocial people too would probably be annoyed by how rich kids complain all the time.
Psychopaths fall into the neither category. Because they're BORN that way. Very straightforward. Neither traumatized, nor spoilt. Just robotic.
@Kill Team Charlie Their situation has nothing to do with politics, and they certainly don't have faith in anything from religions to morals.
and then there are those of us having a negative reaction to having contact with these people and their behavioral patterns all day every day for 50 years. its exhausting and requires boundaries and defense mechanisms that require maintenance. >98% of people are trash.
i feel like i educated myself more listening to these lessons in my bedroom than being in a classroom for 6-7 hours a day.
And the classroom gave us the fundamental language skills to comprehend this stuff.
@@VaughanMcCue it could communicate years before kindergarten. I learned most of my vocabulary by books. I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
@@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466
Perhaps you were a savant or benefited from very competent parents that were neither deaf nor mute. Congratulations.
My parents only used meth smoke signals to communicate?
@@VaughanMcCue I feel that. Not for myself, but for my relatives. I was reading Judy B Jones and Hank the Cowdog at 7, my cousin is still having trouble reading Dr. Seuss at 7. It's sad, but it shows the difference a present parent makes is incredible. I hope you are doing well.
@@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466
Dr Edgie dedicated extra time to learning additional knowledge and was euphemistic in their comment about their past educational experience.
You would probably agree that people are born with brains that process information at different rates and abilities, and chance also plays a part in the individual's physical competencies.
Perhaps you would accept that the quality of the environment, genetics, nurturing, and nutrition impact the outcomes for a person.
There may be people like you who survived on a deserted island without parents and other humans to contribute to their development, relying on an abandoned library as their only resource.
Most of us had others around to contribute to our development, and I am not saying that the formal education we received was perfect. Still, on balance, it has contributed to society, and education standards and methods need to improve.
If we can read, thank our teachers, or in your unique situation, you can acknowledge the librarians who left you the tools to learn.
The rest of us can thank our parents and others who contributed to our lives.
Exactly what my grandmother always said. Children naturally want to play and move around and exhaust themselves. When they're forced to just sit still and listen for many hours, of course they eventually get bored and overwhelmed by their natural desire to move and do stuff to the point where they just can't really focus very well. And then people assume something is wrong with the kids and they get medicated which then, of course, *actually* causes something to be wrong with them, by suppressing their natural instincts and behavior to make them fit into this current very non-child friendly environment that we live in. She is a pretty smart woman. I myself would add that the most common mistake is that children are not seen as children but as mentally slow and disabled adults.
Narrator : The dangerous of Anti-social males
Fake Feminists : It ees what it ees
yas it ees what it ees😂
It's free real estate
Feminism is fake entirely lmao. When has feminism ever benefited men instead of granting women power over men while abusing it through the law ? Feminism is feminism for a reason. It is not for men and any man who believes it's not one sided is a schmuck. I've done my research.
@@derekclawson5707 yeah it's been like that on social media but at it's core it's for equal rights and helping people feel safer. most feminists are good people and have the right beliefs there's just some really stupid shit on the internet
@@derekclawson5707 Feminism is a movement not created by women ( they're too weak to do that ) it was created by rich men who wanted more taxes money from women. But it's going too far and I guess from now 20 years later feminism won't exist anymore. Now feminism has become a joke and people hate either women or men.
"Anti-social behaviour is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists"
- Nikola Tesla.
David Y Tesla was too agreeable and people took advantage of him. Also I think the word from his quote was solitude not anti social. His work was done to benefit all of humanity so he was not actually anti social.
Anna Vajda Lol, what? Benefiting the humanity or not doesn't change the fact that he was anti-social, keeping in mind that anti-social is a person that doesn't like to interact to others (a clear description of Tesla's behavior), he has just done what he's done because he was completely obsessed, not because he cared about people in any way.
Antisocial personality disorder in the clinical sense does not mean "doesn't like to interact with others." It deals with people who have no regard for right and wrong. Many times they are actually quite charming, usually used as a tool to manipulate. Many people do not understand there is a difference.
Tesla used the word "anti-social" referring to what we actually call "asocial behaviour" in psychology, I just used the word "anti-social" to fit the first comment.
David Y 🙏
Antisocial does not mean introverted or avoidant as it’s often used. It means behaving in any way that’s counter to generally accepted social norms (i.e., a manipulative sociopath).
Anti social disorder you mean. Put the disorder in front. anti social is pretty much alot of thing you can put in that bucket that include introvert. Anti social behavior, anti social personality and anti social disorder are 3 different thing.
@@PourriGamer thanks for clearing that up doctor
@@3ggg334 so being introvert is mostly based on personality correct.
@@PourriGamer In the past, antisocial was strictly a clinical or diagnostic term. The laypersons have misused the word so often and severely in colloquial speech that it has taken on a new meaning similar to introversion or “just not wanting to socialize”; but only in common vernacular.
I have a masters in psychology and worked in a clinical setting for two years before I left all that junk behind.
Plus, it’s antisocial, not anti social. I can’t tell if you are misinformed or uninformed, but it seems like you have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe you just didn’t want to take the time to really explain this, but you have done everyone who reads your comment a disservice, if that’s the case.
Good luck misleading people.
@@Josh-qo7yd thanks for this. I never known that. Its crazy how society has taken clinical and diagnostic terminology into social society vocabulary norms. If that all makes sense.
I never had ADHD or anything but I vividly remember a few times I had the toughest times just looking at the paper. It was like my whole being rejected me sitting there and doing school work.
People said that grade school would be the best time of my life. I am so glad they were wrong.
"Tracking agressive 2 year olds through time" is a movie id be willing to watch 🤣
you were 2 so. the problem with life is you only have one.
Many schools STOPPED RECESS after 1989.
Also, many 2 year olds are in Daycare, instead of with mommy, or OUTSIDE under her watch
Makes me cringe how many people in the comment section don't understand what anti-social means. It does not mean withdrawn, disliking social behaviour or preferring to be alone, that is asocial behaviour. Antisocial is aggressive, rule breaking, criminal and manipulative. These people enjoy getting into social interactions simply to assert dominance over others.
Markus FIN exactly. Half the comments here need to be deleted because they don’t know what anti social means.
deckard163 Antisocial does involve aggressive, criminal behavior, read about it. If you're just the type who doesn't socialize, you're either avoidant, schizoid or just a loner by conscious choice.
deckard163 where do you find this information from? the last time I checked the definition between unsocial and antisocial I was met with different results.
it claimed that unsocial behaviour is a general withdrawn and lack of desire to be in social situations.
it also claimed antisocial behaviour was akin to vandalism and socially destructive behaviours.
as far as I could remember, this was an Oxford dictionary definition
There are many factors that influence a person to be asocial, among them the eloquence problems, that have little peculiar tastes, timidity, insecurity about his/her physique, the upbringing and the education of the Individual, and many other factors, you can't associate something so polisemic with simple behaviors that don't define the attitude of introverted people in general.
nono N Spot on
Im very thankful i was well socialized as a child. But now at 23 I just like silence and running no risk of letting someone come in my life just to disrupt my otherwise peaceful life.
Make that last for as long as you can. Before you know it some woman will want to marry you and claim half of your time and money.
@@magearon or maybe just don't marry a fucking bitch
Chase H. ??? Are you antisocial or asocial cause there's a huge difference buddy..
I’m 18 and I’m like you, except I wasn’t very social when I was a child.
I thought there was a connection with ODD, NPD & Psychopathy. This is how they get away with so much, well said Sir
The only thing your in danger of is finding out more about your true self, I think if anything our society could use some self empowerment in being happy alone. If your not happy alone, your depending on others for you source of happiness & I don't think you'll truly ever find it.
"The reason we feel alienated is because the society is infantile, trivial, and stupid. So the cost of sanity in this society is a certain level of alienation" - Terrance Mckenna
Why don't we teach cats to be okay with not purring and playing with other cats and killing mice. Just put them in a bare room. They should be happy alone. If not there's something wrong with your cat.
@@bobmcbobbington9220 What kind of stupid comparison is that? So pathetic, can't even call that weak generalization a strawman.
Ive just learned that the only person you can trust is yourself. In this day and age, you can no longer trust people, it will backfire every time.
What he is saying can also be the result of severe discipline as i know from personal experience. If you lock a child in the house there entire young life and torment them, they to will see every face as an enemy or lieing.
True ......True
U just learned that? Catch up man.
While that might be true... To me it just seems like a boring and lonely way to live. I'd rather trust and be dissappointed than to trust no one at all. Not to say you should trust everyone tho
But it's down to you as the free thinking adult to decide who you want in your life. Not everyone is a bastard.
My childhood was filled with physical and sexual abuse. But as an adult, I choose not to let it hold me back anymore... Or use it as an excuse for not growing beyond my childhood.
You just learned that I learned that at age whatever I was in preschool where I asked for chocolate milk and the teacher lady said there was no more butt 2 mins later her bitch ass is sucking down that last chocolate milk I told her I will never trust a word she says to me again or any word anyone tells me even my own parents. And you know what everyone lies. Everyone.
Some people dont have a choice. They shut us out and then call us antisocial
Gaslighting. Capitalism is built on it
That is simply not true for most people.
@sour airhead He isn't gaslighting. The original commenter IS talking nonsense because he doesn't know what the term anti-social actually means.
Antisocial in this context is referring to antisocial personality disorder. Antisocial personality disorder in extreme cases can mean psychopathy and normally refers to sociopathy.
If you're a psychopath you can be successful if you know how to handle it
Thats exactly what happened to me, I remember myself as little monster, I was rejected at school, and now I see only enemies, liers and prey in humans on streets, I can barely trust anyone, and at the same time think how could I use someone in any way.
Jordan Peterson told Chuck Norris to clean his room..... Chuck listened
How could you say something so controversial, yet so true.
the truth: the room tidied itself....
Stuss80 😂😂😂😂
@@aidenorcutt1738 The current year is whatever Chuck Norris says it is.
@@aidenorcutt1738 If you're using "yikes" sarcastically, then that's OK, but if you're not then... yikes.
Here is the thing I would like to socialise with people but most people to me are dumb, mean and they don't talk about things I like to talk about. I love being alone. Being alone allows me to think about me.
@@tawnybrawn "i like being alone" is such a cope
"There are times when I look at people, and see nothing worth liking."
-There will be blood.
2edgy4me
We can get drunk and go to the peach tree dance
when you meet me the blood will be yours you will see.
@@victorhopper6774 Prove it 🤣
Shed
The man in the mirror nods his head
So many people here who don’t understand what antisocial behavior means in the clinical sense. You can be an extreme extrovert and still be anti social. The term basically means anything that someone does that is against the greater good of society - such as violence, lying, manipulating etc.. Therefore just because you’re kind of awkward and don’t like going out doesn’t make you antisocial at all
Even when an "Asocial" label is applied to you it's considered negative to most, everyday people who tend to generalize. If you happen to be introverted you know this better than anyone.
Not wearing the same wool as everyone else? You're still a threat to fear-based people, even if you're minding your own business and hurting no one.
Herd mentality and black and white vision. In my opinion, the biggest problem of us humans is being too egocentric to admit our own shortcomings
He is not talking about introverts, he is talking about psychopathy
The last paragraph is just pure facts.
@@angrybanana5476 he's worshipping society. He forgot that Newton was asocial and doesn't even have a wife. Tons of smart people are introverted because who cares about society if they don't care about you
@@mhazg6621 Perhaps but jordan is talking about antisocial personality disorders not antisocial people, there is a huge difference between those two
My one ex girlfriend was 21 at the time, she fell on her butt and started crying like a baby. She wasnt hurt, im like wtf.
That’s a very obvious cry for attention, hope you realise that.... girls are usually very lowkey about wanting attention and it’s like a puzzle to guys but come on she’s point blank making it obvious she wants you to comfort her.
@Alec nolastname that happens if a lady is attention deprived for a longer while. For example, if she dates a narcissist, then she must make a scene to be seen by him
Might've just been the shock, I wouldn't read too much into it
She may have something more going on, but it could also be a symptom of attention seeking behavior.
@@ST-yc7uj Yes it's the mans fault, of course how could we be so blind
I was severely behaviorally dysfunctional from ages 3 to 6 from complications from my 1st brain surgery. What Dr. Peterson talks about in the last 2 minutes of this video reminds me of what I recently learned from Piaget's developmental models: children from ages 3 to 5 start their social lives through group play; every year beyond age 5 is a continuation of this social learning process. I've since wondered: has my social confusion (let alone anxiety) stemmed from lacking social acceptance in this initial friend-making phase?
Probably. I think I am in the same boat.
True. From beginning to end. True
My family was so ashamed for my disease they didn't even allow me to tell it to relatives. Pars of my family died without knowing and more will follow. I got bullied in school for 9 years whilst on big amounts of medication. I had zero social life.
I'm scared I will be a psychopath. I can't build a social life on my own. I'm scared of the broken human brain I am.
The first step to growth is to realize that you need it. Don't let your past traumas block you from the life you desire. Open up to the world and try new things
How many of us grew told how much men were a net negative on the world, to sit quietly and still in class while our instincts told us otherwise, told taking anti-depressants and SSRI's were good for us?
YES
Same here. Misandrist people have been teaching and making policy for far longer than most would assume.
And then people get surprised that desperate men lose their mind and join gangs, become terrorist or other types of criminals, commit shootings and so on. Those men have been told their entire life, that they're pretty much the source of all evil. Do you expect them, to not take something like that personal? And then they put them on Anti-depressants and SSRI's, like the OP pointed out, which can seriously fuck up someones brain. But you know, whenever such a tragedy occurs, where some guy kills tons of people, no one is allowed to question the Anti-male system, or the dangerous precise with those meds. No, those people just do that, because they're douchbags, because they had nothing better to do at that moment, because they have been playing too much video games and whatever scapegoat they feel like throwing in.
One of my fears is being put on meds and get addicted to prescription drugs or hospitalized if i ever visit a psychologist
Ali Moradi
Be careful, because therapists don't give a damn about your well being. They have zero reasons to be motivated. They get paid whether you get healed or commit suicide. So don't let them force you to do anything you don't want to. And do your own research as well. Don't trust everything they say. Be skeptic.
I’m an antisocial person... and if I’m honest with myself, it’s kinda scary how he pretty much perfectly described me and how I think, feel and act.
Same
Of course if you know you're antisocial you can relate.
There is a huge difference between being non-social and anti-social and yet some people are so quick to throw the "anti-social" label. Gladly there is Dr. Peterson to remind people of the truth.
Well that 4yo development cycle stuff makes a lot of sense about me. I had no friends and was bullied for the vast majority of my school life.
Also the thing about every face being negative or lying is exactly the mentality I had and quite honestly still have to this day
So he’s bang on with this as usual 😂
I finally have enough knowledge of my past and real life experience to fully understand this video, which has led me to better understand myself. Thank you.
His delivery is so choppy and yet he can keep your attention the whole time. Master teacher.
I rewatched this because I came across the question. What if a person had values that were in line with a sociopath? My answer, and being consistent with Peterson, is that the games we play that improve social development would not last long, and we would have to keep moving from place to place to sustain that value.
"I'm not in danger, Skylar, I am the danger. A guy opens his door and gets shot and you think that of me? no, I don't knock because I'm antisocial"
@@EquinoxGate lol
Angerfist
Sigma male mindset
This is great 😂
This reminds me of that blond serial killer that liked to hang out with his victim's hands but then got killed by an ambulance
I think you meant blond, blonde is reserved for females :)
23 Y/O here... and im sooooo bad at socializing. Oh boy..
21 year old here. I get seizures when I make eye contact with anybody.
You only get better with practice.
20 Y/O here..... and I’m so HORNY when I see another female it drives me crazy, I just go crazy!!!
I go STUPID!!!
It's very easy. You just have to emulate some other loser and fake. Always fake
I started to become antisocial because no one would listen (like actually listen) they would always say they would but it wasn’t true, they never made any effort to change, they’d only say they do, and I just stopped seeing any real point in conversation. I speak to everyone very comfortable online, but unless I have to, I wouldn’t open my mouth to say a word.
I really dont hate on Serbian and American women/girls,i just had to throw it out there so all can see this beautiful comment. ❤️😍
Bro you don't have antisocial personality disorder because no one talks to you💀 people get aspd from things like severe child abuse
I'm very popular in social situations but hate being in social situations no matter how much the people like me
Tbh I've been anti-social for as long as I can remember. My parents had a turbulent divorce in my early childhood, which led to a lot of residual psychological problems I contend with today, at 28. I served in the military, worked many other jobs, and am now back in college for IT.
One thing that angers me isn't the fact that I'm anti-social, its when people think I'm dangerous because of it. My family gives me dirty looks, and speak ill about me behind my back, despite me never doing anything to wrong them. Everyone thinks I'm strange, which I'm okay with, but I'm not dangerous. I've never been angry at anyone because they won't accept me. I don't want people to. It wouldn't be genuine if anyone came to me and tried to yank me out of my world. Sometimes there are people that can't be saved. I've accepted the reality that I will never love anyone past the platonic level. My life is worse off for it, but I could be alot worse off still. I think the difference between this sob story and being an incel is the acceptance to what you are. Everyone tries to play the victim card. I'd rather live out the consequences of my personality. I can't rectify myself, so help me I have tried. Call me a nihilist, but I've seen much worse off people than myself.
This is probably off topic, but thank you for serving.
Antisocial defintiion: Soneone who is against society.
You seem introspective, which is the opposite of incel mentality. Incels blame others with vitriol for their problems.
chop a line ....crack a beer and pour a shot.....Electric Funeral is on the juke box.....etc.....I get what you're hypothesize about.. patrick
He not talking about quiet people
How come we live in a world where you need a license to drive but anyone, not matter, can have children.
Based
Because having children is an essential part of human nature whereas driving hasn’t even been around for 150 years.
@@aidangreen4570 but i'd say you should still make sure someone is able to properly raise a child.
Why do we put so much paperwork on someone that wants to adopt but not to see if someone is actually fit to have a child of their own?
Because even stupid and completely inept people can stumble around and shag, driving takes an element of skill and can be measured. And in many places you don't need a license to drive ... it's a bigger World than just where you live.
because it's not the government's job to regulate it, simple as that. instead of making it illegal to have a child without proper permission, we should focus on properly educating people before they have children
This is what happened to my twin brother, he had leukemia at the age of four and couldn’t socialize for 2 years! and so when he was put in school. everybody just didn’t find him normal and that still goes on today. No one accepts him
I'm 29 now so I really don't care all that much anymore if people dont like me or think I'm weird .i don't feel like I'm weird or not normal but I do see that I'm not doing what everyone else my age is doing like getting married and having kids .being social is the last thing on my mind now .I'm more worried about bills and making my life somewhat better .there is no time to worry about being social .
I feel the same
I'm 29 as well and closing 30 and the younger me was more social.
Am I normal in some ways ? Sure
Do I actively go seek trouble ? Hell no
Do I want to work and save for investments ? Hell yes and working on it 😍
Am I going to spend myself into the poor house on dates and women ? No 👎
Maybe someday I'll allow a woman around me in life but with how the system is and divorce court I'm not putting a ring on the finger. Fuck that, I'll risk child support horse shit that I can recover from once it hits as I'm well informed and I know how the system is manipulated so easily against men.
They show no fear of authority at all. They are extremely self serving and focused. Never have seen anything like it before in my life. Yes, learned it in psych and child development class. If certain behaviors are not learned and taught before or by age five, their will be trouble. I am glad he mentions how that includes appropriate social conduct. These skills should develope naturally in a child by age five, with the right guidance, unless there are some developmental factors that interfere with the natural stages of development, including inappropriate parenting, and environmental factors. Example, being raised by anti-social parents. He's right. It works. I like how he emphasizes how important appropriate social skill are in life. Not having social skills severely stifles one's life. A person may have talent/skill, but can't move forward due to anti-social behaviors. Very nice observations.
By him explaining about behavior of children I realized that in first grade I was in a different planet and not socializing with any other kids. I had to learn what was socially acceptable again when I finally came out of my shell in high school. Which took some time
My dad would always make fun of me for the lymphedema (swelling in my legs from the knee down) i developed after my 2nd open heart surgery. He would call me names like Big Foot…. His pos of a gf would tell me daily that “no one likes you” so yeah it has left me fucked up…. I don’t feel like I’m getting any better because I literally have no one in my life. Like literally not a single fucking soul to share life with. I’m always mute and I’m afraid I’ll lose my voice because I never talk. I really wish I had someone who could help me feel love and heal me. This life is fucked up yo
Read through the comments and one overall common theme is evident: anime avatars.
Dan of Xymox 💀
Hes right...
Losers
@@johnnyhandsome3424 You're projecting.
Forch MoneyMaker “You’re projecting”
When you realized that you weren't socialized with others when you were 4 years old O - O
All those years have been nothing but a lie.
My father was diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder. He’s a great business man, horrible father and husband. He told us it wouldn’t affect him if we died. I asked him if he hated us he said no but I don’t feel tied to you in anyway. I told him ditto.
Thats just a yikes for me.
This makes me realize that I had a great childhood, have great parents, had really good friends as a kid, was very social, I put myself out there a lot. But after moving to the US, I just became silent
Where'd you come from?
People in the comments don’t realize that there are two primary definitions of the word “antisocial”. The main definition which is used in psychology and criminology is someone who goes against the laws and customs of society. Criminals are antisocial in this sense. Hence the term “antisocial personality disorder”.
Then there’s the colloquial definition of the word antisocial which is someone who doesn’t like social interactions. Jordan Peterson is using the first definition. He’s not referring to introverted people. He’s referring to people who break the rules.
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