Chess Lesson # 87: King’s Indian Defense vs London System

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
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    Hello students! In this Chess lesson, you will learn how to play our King’s Indian Defense set-up against the London System. I will show you the way I handle it and also a game that I played recently for you to see it in action and acquire more experience with the KID!
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Комментарии • 305

  • @NMRobertRamirez
    @NMRobertRamirez  4 месяца назад +2

    We finally have a strong and well organized opening course for White and one for Black. With these and the FREE beginner to master level playlist from this RUclips channel, it’s all about consistency over an extended period of time 😎💪 ⬇
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  • @VivanteMixes
    @VivanteMixes 3 года назад +150

    cant recommend this channel enough, every thought is explained well and shows the reasonings behind every move

    • @dardiansyahoke7629
      @dardiansyahoke7629 3 года назад +2

      Amazing lesson

    • @RaymondBCrisp
      @RaymondBCrisp 3 года назад +2

      I've not played chess in years. I find after these lessons that I might want to pick it up again!

  • @davidbourne4912
    @davidbourne4912 3 года назад +69

    Ive learned quite a bit about chess in the last two months. Mostly used Gothamchess, eric rosen, hanging pawns and maybe a few others. However, i've found your channel the most instructive of the lot. I've been focusing on the KID/Pirc as black and London/Vienna as white and my game has improved so much with your instruction. Thank you and keep them coming!

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад +13

      Thanks a lot for your comment, David! It truly means a lot 👍

  • @lynnnash9846
    @lynnnash9846 3 года назад +36

    I've been playing chess for 50 years and you are the best teacher ever, you explain everything so clearly and it all works,if only I had this kind of coaching back then. Excellent work Robert please keep it going .
    Tundish

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад +8

      Thanks a lot for your kind words! Please, feel free to ask me any questions you might have 👍😎

  • @adamblomquist5581
    @adamblomquist5581 2 года назад +14

    Re-watched this 11 months later. IT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE NOW!! THANK YOU!

  • @droneaacharya7907
    @droneaacharya7907 3 года назад +15

    Haven't come across any chess coach on youtube who teaches and explains reason behind every single move in so much detail...keep up the good work Rob...great work excellent!

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад +2

      You got it! Thanks a lot for your kind words 👍😎

  • @processmyrun6559
    @processmyrun6559 3 года назад +23

    Was looking for this, as many people play teh London system these days. Thanks a lot!

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад +1

      You are welcome! Hope it works well for you 💪

  • @makayneilson7570
    @makayneilson7570 Год назад +5

    This is the exact video I was looking for today. I was wondering if the king's Indian defense was a good idea against the London and this video delivered!

  • @leopilgram6563
    @leopilgram6563 3 года назад +18

    My favourite chess teacher on youtube! Thanks a lot!

  • @anil-wn4er
    @anil-wn4er 3 года назад +4

    Iam playing london regularly... but I don't know how to play against london... Such a great coaching... thank you robert!

  • @deepskywest3633
    @deepskywest3633 3 года назад +8

    Great work, as usual.

  • @robhoffman510
    @robhoffman510 4 месяца назад

    This series around the KID is one of the best I’ve seen. Thank-You!

  • @_GkT_
    @_GkT_ 10 месяцев назад +1

    d4 Nf6 Bf4 g6 e3 Bg7 Nf3 0-0 :
    Be3 d6 0-0 Nbd7 c3 Re8 Nbd2 - 3:42
    Be2 d6 0-0 Nbd7 c3 Re8 Nbd2/h3 - 8:27
    If a4 then a6 (do a6 before e5 break)

  • @acousticmeatus8141
    @acousticmeatus8141 Год назад +2

    Dear sir, this is such wonderful content from, I really hope you're earning well enough from all this, I never skip ads when played, I watch it for as long as it needs to be, thank you so much for doing it for free

  • @amorty456
    @amorty456 4 месяца назад

    I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE your repetition based teaching style.

  • @pipingbertonel1958
    @pipingbertonel1958 2 года назад +1

    Theres a lot of tutorial but your way of tutorial is the very best,very ,clear and competent ..thankyou master

  • @phozonn
    @phozonn 3 года назад +6

    a6 all the way!
    Nicely explained all the reasoning for the moves, very helpful for remembering. Thanks :)

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад

      You are welcome! Thanks for your feedback. It helps a lot 👍

  • @norsage
    @norsage 3 года назад +3

    Perfect Presentation, love Robert's insight on chess..

  • @cloudstotheresistance1910
    @cloudstotheresistance1910 3 года назад +2

    Great video! I've been taking Kamil Plichta's course on the KID, but he leaves out responses to the London. After studying this I feel much more confident playing against d4, you give so many good ideas and thematic moves. I appreciate the repetition too, it helps a lot when learning these lines. Thanks so much - your lessons are so good I might exclusively play KID/Pirc from now on!

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад +1

      You are more than welcome! Happy to see you are finding value in these lessons. Please, let me know if you ever have any questions! 👍

  • @bills10733
    @bills10733 3 года назад +3

    Thanks Robert. Excellent content! I am an 1100 player, so I have a lot to learn. I like the Pirc/KID setup and am trying to learn it. This helps a lot. I play the London as white, so I recognize when it is used against me, and I find it the most difficult to oppose when I’m black.

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад

      You are more than welcome! Thank you for your feedback. It means a lot!

    • @evanhansen5064
      @evanhansen5064 3 года назад

      the main structural difference is that in the pirc the knight is on c3 locking in the c pawn for white

  • @alexanderustinov7078
    @alexanderustinov7078 6 месяцев назад

    Watching everyday 3 or 4 of your lessons and still hiped to keep on learning!!!!! Thank you for the course👏 Playing KID/Pirc with ELO 500 and everytime, everybody break into e5 before I get all the opening ready and nothing applies for me :D But still Fiachetto and the ideas I learnt from you Rob help me win. Let's see how long it takes me to get from 500 to 600...

  • @toivo7878
    @toivo7878 3 года назад +1

    Woaah I learned so much! Keep doing this great work!

  • @ronvanliempd3274
    @ronvanliempd3274 3 года назад +1

    Another great video, really happy with the b6 and a6 ideas !

  • @3D_Medusa
    @3D_Medusa 3 года назад +3

    Amazing! Thanks for this.

  • @carlosch2106
    @carlosch2106 2 года назад

    I really like this lesson and his teaching style. The repetitions make the video longer, true, but I think they're perfect to remember the key moves later.

  • @prakasavigraha6104
    @prakasavigraha6104 2 года назад

    Great lesson Robert. Many thanks. It was clear, concise and you presented options. Loved it all.

  • @philkalus5720
    @philkalus5720 3 года назад +3

    Excellent instruction !!! If only I can lock it in memory banks !

  • @karstenhasselberg2536
    @karstenhasselberg2536 Год назад

    I like how you always explain every move,it helps me see the board better

  • @mariogilligan841
    @mariogilligan841 Год назад +1

    I prefer a6. I can see the difference between a master and an intermediate player like me; the master has a plan for all the game, instead only a few moves and basic knowledge for the intermediate. I have a better feeling now of what is ahead to the road of mastering if I ever get there. Thanks again!

  • @flaschezweitausend9670
    @flaschezweitausend9670 3 года назад +1

    Such quality content for free. Wow. Thanks alot !

  • @joelbinag7759
    @joelbinag7759 Год назад

    A combination of both.
    I like the surprised line that you showed.

  • @Hippohappytt
    @Hippohappytt 10 месяцев назад

    Very good! Easy to understand though the overwhelming information

  • @PassedPawn
    @PassedPawn 3 года назад

    I was searching a good plan with kings indian against london system. I saw some video but no one was this much better as you taught. You are a awesome teacher and my dream coach in my journey to 2000 elo.

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад +1

      So glad you found this plan useful! Please, let me know how it goes when you try it next and thanks a lot for your kind words as usual. It means a lot!

  • @suhaibsalem6735
    @suhaibsalem6735 Год назад

    I watched this thing now in 2023 and I recommend this for all players this is something useful.. thank you for doing that amazing analysis ❤❤

  • @minhdao-nn7ho
    @minhdao-nn7ho 2 месяца назад

    Very informative, thank you my man

  • @kriszed5329
    @kriszed5329 3 года назад +2

    Nice video.
    I hope I'm not sounding too greedy, but any chance of a "Colle zuckertort" lesson?
    It featured briefly in one of your videos and you recommended it to me in a comment.
    I've tried it and it's really good- but I bet you've got some great tips.
    I often managed to get a knight on e5 playing it and black has a lot of trouble removing it. Two bishops aimed at the black king. Plenty of space to move the queen and even rook into for an attack.

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад +1

      Hello Chris! We will definitely talk about the Colle at some point in the future. It is very interesting and I like it a lot. So, count on that lesson 👍

  • @SanjuBaba-Chessmaster
    @SanjuBaba-Chessmaster 4 месяца назад

    Great explanation learn a lot ❤❤❤❤ better than 90 percent of channels

  • @RaptureReady2025
    @RaptureReady2025 3 года назад +2

    Another valuable lesson. I prefer a6. Many thanks. 💪🏼👍🏼👏👏👏

  • @Mr354135
    @Mr354135 3 года назад +1

    And please we expect four pawns averbakh symislov set up videos but i usually dont find a middle game plan in When they do simmetrical fianchetto set up

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад

      Absolutely! We have to cover all of those little by little 👍

  • @wesnhisthoughts
    @wesnhisthoughts 7 месяцев назад

    So against the London, the Hippirc works well! Thanks, great vid!

  • @markdavis3591
    @markdavis3591 Год назад

    Really enjoyed this tutorial 👍

  • @ILLFLOWnyc
    @ILLFLOWnyc 2 года назад

    Great job as always. You have become my favorite instructor.

  • @MrSupernova111
    @MrSupernova111 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent lesson! I'm a die hard KID player and I have always wondered what is the best reply to the annoying Bf4 London. I believe black can also go for ...d5 instead of ...d6 but I think it depends of white's set up and it takes the game in a completely different direction. Thanks for the lesson! Cheers!

  • @zenkruczkowski5904
    @zenkruczkowski5904 Год назад

    Robert, this is great! Thank you!

  • @tennesseeheckler3014
    @tennesseeheckler3014 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love the repetition approach in your videos! I only started learning a few months back, but was losing interest after being unable to follow what the chess heads were talking about in their videos. Always seemed like a bunch of nonsensical gibberish meant to show off how smart they are with no intention to actually teach something, despite the vids being "lessons". I feel I have made far more progress after only watching a few of your lessons; than I did with the 100 vids of others I watched before. You got a well deserved sub from me my friend. Thank you for reigniting my interest in this fantastic game. Happy Holidays!

  • @guidogm
    @guidogm Год назад

    rob your videos are amazing! I always come back for more lesson! keep it up !

  • @russellscott1151
    @russellscott1151 Год назад

    Excellent, just found this channel, will look at your other vids. Many thanks.

  • @Golden-Ace1
    @Golden-Ace1 10 месяцев назад

    Great course, thank you

  • @lucasspilleremoreti9348
    @lucasspilleremoreti9348 2 года назад

    What a lesson!!! Congratulations!!

  • @scubaron2293
    @scubaron2293 Год назад

    Good job, good teachers are hard to find these days.....!

  • @xaviserra2227
    @xaviserra2227 2 месяца назад

    Great lesson

  • @belue2429
    @belue2429 Год назад

    Great lesson!!

  • @yairdvora871
    @yairdvora871 3 года назад

    I love your videos! I love when you play live or show your games. Blitz 5+2 is fine with me as you have sufficient time to share your thoughts. Also I love the repetitions! 30 min video is not too long for me

  • @smile007smart
    @smile007smart 2 года назад

    Great videos, simple explanations!

  • @shilohk38
    @shilohk38 3 года назад

    At 12min. I had to hit the like button. Everything is explained well. Thank you!

  • @smar1k359
    @smar1k359 3 года назад +1

    Can't really thank you enough for these videos!

  • @jishnu8146
    @jishnu8146 2 года назад

    Best chess channel. Thanks for your teaching

  • @chilakashalemraju3668
    @chilakashalemraju3668 2 года назад

    Really great. Thank you

  • @garygross3093
    @garygross3093 2 года назад

    Great lessons and videos. Really appreciate it!!

  • @z51racer
    @z51racer 2 года назад

    Wow. Can't wait to try this out.

  • @12anshdesai5c2
    @12anshdesai5c2 Год назад

    thank you for this video as i played the kid vs london and lost the game because i didnt know how to react to it

  • @lyand5821
    @lyand5821 2 года назад

    Nice video! Could you make a video playing the kings Indian defense against the 150 attack?

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  2 года назад

      Thank you! Feel free to check out lesson # 70 and let me know if that's what you mean 👍

  • @d_dave7200
    @d_dave7200 2 года назад

    Would have liked to see the London variation with knight to c3 instead of pawn. I see that a lot.

  • @piyushojha9456
    @piyushojha9456 3 года назад +2

    You are really awesome , Sir!❤❤❤ Seriously, nobody can do the elaboration this good.. just saying. Plz keep doing this good deed :). Thanks!!

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад

      Thank you for your kind words, Piyush! It's truly rewarding to read comments like yours 👍

  • @enriquevecerra4651
    @enriquevecerra4651 3 года назад

    Excelente clase,gracias NM Robert.

  • @HCW2855HCW
    @HCW2855HCW 3 года назад +1

    I like a6 where I can push e5 - and when I play c5 then I control the b4 square. Of course, I haven't played this in a game yet :)

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад +1

      Yes, I like that one too, Charles! Let me know how it goes when you try it in a game 👍

  • @kokawiliam1258
    @kokawiliam1258 2 года назад

    Really thanks for your excellent videos 😊

  • @robertehrenworth3310
    @robertehrenworth3310 2 года назад

    Also, white can defer both castling & c3, to get QN to c4, by a4, Na3-Nc4 because then it’s very difficult for black to get in e5 as white has 4 units guarding e5 (ie, d4, nf3, Bf4 & Nc4). Not critique but food for thought.

  • @stephencindrich6787
    @stephencindrich6787 2 года назад

    Great stuff! Thanks. I prefer ...a6.

  • @amlyad2633
    @amlyad2633 Год назад

    I love all of them sir, as always awesome explain, and you are awesome:)

  • @virmayalcoseba1436
    @virmayalcoseba1436 3 года назад

    Bob your idea of repeating the sequence is perfect for slow learners

  • @Mr354135
    @Mr354135 3 года назад +1

    Hi robert thanx for your effort i found this Channel recently and its became my textbook as a KID player i usually play Nfd7 e4 Nc6 Qd7 f4 ect against london but i kınnda feel this way is safer but many player doesnt break their pawn chain with our e4 move they just retreat the bishop then What should we do in the middle game

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад

      Hello Yusuf! You are more than welcome. Thank you for your kind words. Regarding your question, the most important thing is to always keep an eye on the e4 square like I mentioned in the lesson. Whenever my opponent just retreats their bishop, I like to do e4 to gain more space and make their f3-knight retreat as well. After that, I might even play d5 and my central pawns make it really difficult for white de maneuver with their pieces. Even if they do c4, I continue with c6 to keep those pawns there. Sometimes, you can do exd4 instead of e4 and use the e4 square to place your f6 knight. Hope you like one of these 👍

  • @TGregers
    @TGregers 3 года назад

    Hmm usually London players do different plans when they see the King’s Indian setup. Usually castling Queen side, and pushing the H-pawn. Im a London player, and this is what is recommended by most. You switch to Jobava London, castle queen side, and attack King side with all pieces alligning perfectly. Can also push the e-pawn in some cases.

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад

      Hello! That's possible, but as you move up the ladder, you will see it less often. Anyways, feel free to check out lesson # 70. The pans from that lesson can help you against the plan you just described 👍

  • @AH-gk6qs
    @AH-gk6qs 2 года назад

    Excellent video.

  • @jammalamadakasivasubramany208
    @jammalamadakasivasubramany208 3 года назад +1

    At 4:4 when bishop attack the pawn and king is exposed kc2 is coming and qb7 I lost many times sir

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад

      Hello Jammalamadaka! What do you mean exactly?

  • @RedeemResh
    @RedeemResh 2 года назад

    I love that a6 better. I haven't even played it but watching you, I totally love a6

  • @leonquin3892
    @leonquin3892 3 года назад

    Big thank you to you!
    I didn't know that after c4 you play e5, so that's actually super useful.
    Can't say enough that I appreciate you. :)

  • @andrewucla
    @andrewucla 2 года назад

    1. ... g7 avoids the Trompowsky - nice

  • @sanfisica7621
    @sanfisica7621 3 года назад

    Great job 👏👏👏

  • @juaresbarbosa3833
    @juaresbarbosa3833 3 года назад

    Great video! I lost to a london today pushing e5 too early. Not anymore

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад +1

      Thank you, Juarés! Let me know how it goes next time 👍

  • @janmarbunaghondonero8401
    @janmarbunaghondonero8401 3 года назад +2

    thanks for sharing your knowledge Sir , Mabuhay po! :-)

  • @FrankFeig
    @FrankFeig 10 месяцев назад

    Extremely helpful content, thanks a lot! You mentioned a second plan you execute but you'd come back to in a later video. Is that one out yet? And if so, what's the lesson number?

  • @sethzoid4033
    @sethzoid4033 3 года назад

    It is theory to play bishop E2 against King's Indian with London. I play London btw and it would be awesome if you covered theory in a future video.

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад

      Hello! Yes, it is common to see the bishop on e2. And of course, we have to go deeper into the theory of the London. Stay put 💪

  • @ravikumarkothamasu
    @ravikumarkothamasu 3 года назад

    Wonderfuly explained sir ❤️

  • @michaeldunagan8268
    @michaeldunagan8268 7 месяцев назад

    I prefer to use "a6" in the future.
    As a low rated player, many of the opponents I face get those morale crushing Knights in my grill. I often get forked.
    It is "a6" for me.

  • @electrumphilippines3323
    @electrumphilippines3323 4 месяца назад

    Very informative

  • @Jean-MichelHannoun
    @Jean-MichelHannoun Год назад

    Thanks again for a amazing video. I have 2 questions: 1) how about Qe8 instead of Re8 and 2)what if before castling, White plays h4 aiming for opposite castle and a pawn storm against the black castle? Jean-Michel

  • @GreenHope42
    @GreenHope42 Год назад

    Great video Robert. Do you have a video for KID v Jobava London? When white plays d4 Bf4 Nc3 or d4 Nc3 Bf4.

  • @angelomeola4332
    @angelomeola4332 11 месяцев назад

    An other masterpiece lesson

  • @kevinemmrich7154
    @kevinemmrich7154 3 года назад +1

    I thought that that Bd3 was the "thematic" move for white in setting up the London system structure. Is Be2 more popular here because it is against the King's Indian defense?

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад

      You are totally right, Kevin. When facing the kingside fianchetto, white pieces prefer Be2 because on d3 the bishop could be subject to attacks such as e5 and e4. Besides, It is on a diagonal that is not that good anyways. So, e2 seems like a more reasonable square although it is not so ambitious.

  • @DMS86
    @DMS86 2 года назад

    7:12 been there, done that :)

  • @chessforfunonly1586
    @chessforfunonly1586 9 месяцев назад

    Great ideas, although i find your tendency to constantly play Bg3 instead of Bh2 striking. White played h3 for a reason, right?

  • @anusishmuhuri9
    @anusishmuhuri9 3 года назад

    Make a course on Landon sestam

  • @flyingsquirrel1486
    @flyingsquirrel1486 3 года назад

    thanks for the tips for using lichens!!

  • @randomhooman5556
    @randomhooman5556 7 месяцев назад

    Can we please get a king's indian defense vs bird opening?

  • @jonathanzamarripa752
    @jonathanzamarripa752 Год назад

    My favorite thing is when you watch the higher level players after the opening they always say then you play chess

  • @montyellingsworth4982
    @montyellingsworth4982 3 года назад

    I like a6 better because it somehow relates to the pirc in my mind because the pawn in the pirc goes c6 which also stops the knight. I know.. not the same but enough is similar in goals.... kinda.

    • @NMRobertRamirez
      @NMRobertRamirez  3 года назад

      Yes, I totally get what you mean and it is great that you can recognize such patterns even though these are totally different positions 👍

  • @vijyantmehrotra8119
    @vijyantmehrotra8119 2 года назад

    Coach today I played KID it seemed to be Byrne variation but it was new

  • @banzaiburger9589
    @banzaiburger9589 Год назад

    Robert, what are your thoughts on 5. Nfd7 (instead of Nbd7). I've seen this talked about as a way to get e5 in faster and aggressively go for f5 sooner. I mean as a specific counter to the London. Thanks! 💪

  • @dragadeyt
    @dragadeyt 3 года назад

    I think this is the video I’ve re-watched the most on RUclips.

    • @dragadeyt
      @dragadeyt 3 года назад

      I play London with White but sometimes Ruy Lopez Exchange and will try KIA soon.
      For Black it’s Pirc and KID. Czech Pirc sometimes.