Instead of killing Marius right away and take the stone, Baal plays with his victim by asking Marius to give him the stone and then reveals himself so the old man emotionally devastated before he dies. That is true evil right there...
This is true to how Deckard Cain described him in Diablo III: Book of Cain. He claimed that Baal is just as cunning and nefarious as his siblings, quite capable of using strategy and deception to further his goals. Yet, a lot of people find him predictably destructive simply due to being outwardly brash and reckless
Soul stone might be able to protect Marius from being attacked by monsters. I guess it because Marius can go into very dangerous places without any hurt.
Original Diablo 2 story without expansion was somewhat poetic. It started with the Dark Wanderer walking among the flames and it ended with Dark Wanderer doing the very same thing. Brother like Brother.
It's not the Dark Wanderer what the hell are you talking about? Marius (that old man) thinks it's Tyrael but it's Baal. How can you misunderstand that part?
@@ddenozor They're saying that Baal's disguise is reminiscent of Diablo's, they're using the epithet "Dark Wanderer" to describe the aesthetics of both. What they mean is that just as Diablo was a hooded cloaked man walking among flames, Baal in this cutscene was a hooded cloaked man walking among flames.
yeah that was awesome. the dark wanderer was THE symbol of diablo 2. throughout the marketing and trailers, this dude was shown front and centre. in the game itself, the player character literally follows him throughout the entire story. hes even on the damn cover of the game. so having baal look kind of like a new "dark wanderer" for us to hunt, as a teaser for act 5, was really really well done. shows how much thought they put into it. makes the original game and xpac really flow together, and not feel like 2 entirely different things.
@@Ronin3453 I think it goes back to the free will aspect of humans. It could also be viewed as a total defeat of good. If Baal would've just crushed him and take the stone then it would show only that he was just more powerful than Marius. But if Marius willingly surrenders the stone then the corruption is complete. It shows that man was given free will and still went on and destroyed the earth.
@@alexandrutoma8065 Except not really. Marius didnt know it was Baal - he didnt give him the stone because he was corrupted, he gave it to him because he was fooled and believed it was Tyriel. Another reason why Baal killed him after. If he had truly corrupted him there would be no reason to kill him. My guess, its simply a case of toying with your prey. Baal is the lord of destruction, and simply killing him would be borderline mercy. But here he pretty much toys with him and rubs his misstake in his face.
Leoric lost everything because of Diablo. Turned him insane, to bring ruin to his kingdom and destroy his family. Wife was executed, prince Albrecht turned into D1 host, Aidan made into Dark Wanderer and D2 host. Leoric ends up undead, and then his granddaughter is a vessel for 7 Prime Evils, betrayed by her own mother. Absolutely disgusting.
This is the only cinematic where u at least see the hands of the hero who defeated diablo and smashing the soulstones. Almost brought me to tears the first time I saw it.
what do you mean? The hero who defeated diablo the first time is the dark wondered who then becomes diablo in D2. And then all 7 playable characters from D2 teamed up to kill him a second time... Marius doesn't know how they looked like, so in his retelling, the person in he forge just looks like the dark wanderer.
@@boybumbatso1582 there's no D2 cinematic with the heroes at all because Marius didn't know who they were. All D2 cinematics are from his perspective; except the last one, at the doors
@@boybumbatso1582 but that isn't the hero that defeats diablo. Is just Marius' idea based on the dark wanderer. None of the heroes wear robes and a hood
Bro just wanted to help a dude that was begging for help. Crossed a burning bridge to do it as well. True bro right there, considering his cowardice. Since I recall that you don't see Marius in hell, I like to think his "reward" was a quick death and a painless afterlife.
it's not a great twist ending... it's extremely predictable right from the start. Come on... a hooded figure with demonic voice... did you really not realize it's not tyreal? Don't lie to yourself just because of nostalgia.
To be fair, Tyrael was also busy helping US the whole time to destroy Diablo before he united all of Hell to eradicate humanity. Lord knows Imperius certainly didn't care what happened to us, sitting on his high horse.
@@WTF-vl5rq He doesnt really have a choice in a first place. They are fighting against time since 3 Prime Evil are taking over on our world in such a short time.
Somehow I always thought that this cinematic took place years after the rest, which wouldn’t make much sense chronologically and in the context of the game. But it was the soulstone, all this time, that had aged Marius unnaturally.
To be fair that's part of the missdirect. Its meant to make you think you won and got a happily ever after, only for the game to slap you with the Baal reveal
That and the sheer amount of stress he went under from the ordeal and the malnutrition that came with being trapped in that asylum being fed god knows what kind of slop. Going through something like that, you're bound to look rougher and older than you actually are.
It honestly might have. It's implied that Baal had been looking for awhile. Even assuming that he left to find Marius right after opening the gateway, you don't arrive in Harrogath until Baal had conquered almost all the barbarian lands, there's a pretty sizeable time window inbetween act 4 and 5. I took to interpret it that you just relaxed for a few years, and then later on heard about the ruckus on Mt Arreat and showed up, way too late in typical diablo fashion.
As I was lucky enough to play D2 before expansion came out I must say this was a perfect ending for the game. Although LoD brought a lot of improvements. The whole Act V just didn't have the same feel, story was little weird all the sudden we were supposed to care about some world stone we never heard before. Baal turned from his great mummy/demon look in D2 into that crab legged monstrosity. For me Act V was never something I looked for playing since game clearly reached it's climax in hellish Act IV. Although game wasn't ruined by the expansion by any means, I wish they kept Baal for D3 and went with different direction.
so happy to hear someone else point out how lame baals look was in the expansion. I think tentacle mummy was a lot scarier, being a monstrous human instead of this weird giant grab centaur mess
0:22 In the original cinematic, Diablo's soul went into the soulstone embedded in his forehead. But here, his soul went into his body. Is that an oversight?
Because it was sucked by black soul stone so the soul could not back to the diablo soulstone. Thats why crushing it did not ward off evil. Heroes just destroyed empty stone. Diablo soul was not there that why it in this cinematic it was fixed (same as fact that Diablo previously had his soulstone in his head and did not drop it somwhere off carrige as wanderer. They fixed it to be canonical with D3 and coming story.
@@GRIMHOOD99 Because it was sucked by black soul stone so the soul could not back to the diablo soulstone. Thats why crushing it did not ward off evil. Heroes just destroyed empty stone. Diablo soul was not there that why it in this cinematic it was fixed (same as fact that Diablo previously had his soulstone in his head and did not drop it somwhere off carrige as wanderer. They fixed it to be canonical with D3 and coming story.
@@marcmartino8518 Because it was sucked by black soul stone so the soul could not back to the diablo soulstone. Thats why crushing it did not ward off evil. Heroes just destroyed empty stone. Diablo soul was not there thats why in this cinematic it was fixed (same as fact that Diablo previously had his soulstone in his head and did not drop it somwhere off carrige as wanderer). They fixed it to be canonical with D3 and coming story.
Angels and Demons in the Diablo Universe don't have "Free Will". Humanity, that comes from both Angel and Demon has. Free will and that that makes us Human (a.i. more complete) is the main Theme of Diablo, as established by the Sin War Trilogy and D3. So in here, Baal is making Marius give the stone of his free will judgement, which is a symbolism that humanity is a slave to Evil's influence. A moral victory on top of a physical victory for Baal. However, I personally don't think that Theme was invented at the time of D2, so you can look at this like Dracula asking Randfiled to enter his home "of his free will", which goes to the same theme of "humanity accepting evil willingly"
@@rendomone dude...think again. they dont have "free will" in a sense that they cant choose who they want to be, like humanity. they are bound to their purpose and nature.
@@thahoule7924 remember Angel Izual who became demon. Lilith as a demon even had relationship with Angel. And I didn't saw any human who became Angel. But Tyrael became mortal. So you mistaken bible with diablo lore. If you will give me a qoute where it says demons and angels doesn't have free will.
Its part of our world mythological lore that evil while possess tremendous strength, cannot really do as they please unless they were given permission to. Example would be werewolf that cannot enter people house unless they are invited to, thats why many demon or evil can transform into human to help them deceive human.
In hindsight, it was clever of the original creators to plan the expansion way ahead, by leaving it open ended in the original (with Marius holding onto Baal's soulstone).
That moment when Baal took that soulstone, it felt like something was missing. A little more glow, a little audio shocks, to express the grave change in fate? Also Marius' expression when realizing Baal is lacking as well... feels like he gave it to despair way too long ago already.
I agree. In the original cinematic Baal's disguise was more mysterious and the moment of truth was more shocking. But I think this is my only complaint until now. :)
True, tho I have more complains for previous acts cinematics, this one was not great, but somewhat expressed the emotions and the general idea, also original voice acting helped a lot. They need to step up their animations, facial expressions.
It was fairly obvious in the first cinematic that Marius was being fooled, we just didnt know by who. The reason is that we can hear the sounds of torture in the background, and surely Tyrael would not calmly ask Marius for his story while screams of pain ring out nearby.
So is there some tidbit of lore I’m unaware of that stops Baal from taking his soulstone from Marius? He seemed pretty insistent that Marius actually give him the stone.
@@Heix91 that’s what I assumed too, but I’d think he’d do the “I’m not tyreal!” Reveal as soon as he saw the stone and then just take it from Marius. Maybe the evils being unable to claim their own stones was a planned plot point that got scrapped and this is all that remains of it.
@@Shovelchicken There could be something to that idea. Just like he needed Marius to pull the stone he needed him to give it. Although realistically I think it was a way to make the cinematic more intriguing.
@@TheHeartlessFour but after Marius pulled it out he still insisted Marius give it to him rather than just taking it. I’m probably fixating on this detail too much and it’s likely nothing more than a slight lapse in the writing.
Lord of hatred and terror are defeated along with other two lesser evils. With four great evils stain but only three left the lords of destruction lies and sin are remain.
Marius was a fool, sure, but he didn't deserve to get caught up in the events that would take his sanity. Perhaps in death, his soul at last found some peace.
I was never able to tell what followed Baal after he exited Marius' cell. Are they insects, or rats? Even with the updated graphics it's hard for me to tell o.O
and in the original, the hammer falls over and then is dragged after destroying the second stone, as if the weight of the task was exhausting. its the little touches that they missed.
I've come up with two theories: Either demons can't take anything from humans without the humans' consent (not even when the demon is Baal and the thing is his soulstone), or Baal was just a sadist. I lean more towards the latter myself.
The only thing i dont like is hpw in the original as he walks out it had an almost dreamlike quality. His cloak swayed slowly almost unnaturally as he slowly walks and the screen seems to blurr around his power Its still great but its missing that edge of....strangeness
I have the same feeling about Marius in the remaster. Technically he's more detailed, but he's missing a lot of the rocking back and forth movements that the original had.
@@ConnorNotyerbidness I like how gross and not normal he looked in the original. He just looks like a skinny old man in this one. The audio balancing is really weird too. Doesn't really match up with where he is spaciously in the cutscenes.
@@ConnorNotyerbidness I mean more the actual geometry of his face due to limitations of 3d modeling at the time. It was less realistic, but it lent a better feel to the cutscenes in my opinion.
I had a lot of fun playing Diablo 3 even though the story was kinda weak. I didn't dislike the storyline, but I didn't have the proper context having never finished Diablo 2. Resurrected was my chance to experience D2's storyline and OMG did it absolutely blow D3 out of the water in every way imaginable!
I have to say, this one was better in the original solely due to Marius. Compare the original one to this, and you see how much more affected by Baal's Soulstone he was. He looks not only old, but also ragged and decrepit. He is twitchy, his hands move irregularly, he is constantly weeping and close to doubling over. He was a shattered person, where as this one just kind of has a sad face and doesn't emote enough.
I wish it would have showed the battle between the heroes and Diablo in these cutscene, would have been so bad ass to see a druid throwing tornados in 4k.
Perhaps Baal couldn't take the stone by force and so acted the part of Tyrael until Marius handed it over. Probably far more likely, he just wanted to toy with Marius before "rewarding" him.
Because Baal likes messing with people. He messes with the emissary at Secheron before killing him, and toys with the main characters before engaging them personally as well. The guy's just a massive troll that way.
in the actual game captions come up for when he says no no no no but the captions are spelling Lo! Lo! Lo! Lo! Lo! lol literally curiously googling about it right now.
this cinematic is substandard, the inmates screamed more in the OG cinematic once the stone was offered up, clearly the new people at Blizzard have no attention to detail, also diablo's ghost not going into the soulstone
Marius had the last soul stone all time whe he reached hells gate he just run away if he just wait a year he will encounter with heroes and delivered they the stone but he just run away just as baal planed.
I prefer the original cinematic when the Soulstones were being destroyed. The hero destroying them looked like he put more effort smashing them to bits.
One thing I can't forgive this cinematic compared to the original is how less... *prominent* Baal's soulstone is here. It simply looks like a cheap imitation of a precious stone... Whereas in the original it *EMANATED* with magic, power, and the supernatural. It looked and felt scary there. But not here... :(
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Thank you for playing this for me. When I played diablo 2 it was with a narcissistic son of a peer member who blamed me for running off ahead because of lag on his internet connection. He turned into a 10 year stalker and I fear if I actually replay this he'll misconstrue it as me wanting him back, so...thank you for memory lane Activision/blizzard/Microsoft , but you can keep him in diablo. it's the one MBA you don't want to be part of because it holds a stalkers union every 6 months. This year I've programmed the stalkers union with a Tik tok hypnosis goodbye. 100% legal and in agreement with all parents.
@@ScegfOd_ mephistos face in the original cinematic didnt make sense. he didnt have a face in the game, it was just a skull. so his mouth movement is actually fully intentional in the remaster: he doesnt really use the mouth to speak. hes basically an evil spirit speaking, and the mouth is just moving along with it.
Marius = College Student: “Take it! Take it, take it - Look what these years of study have done to me!” Baal = Real World + Debts Marius: “No… No… No, no, no - What have I done to deserve this -“
I cannot understand why people like Marius. He seems like a total coward and a fool. Firstly he follows the Wanderer. Clearly the Wanderer is not a good guy so why follow him at all? I can pass it up as maybe the Wanderer could have killed him otherwise so he decided to obey him in order to survive. Okay. I can pass that. But then he frees Baal because Baal asked him to? Why help the forces of Evil like that? Because he was afraid? Tyrael was clearly winning so why screw Heaven and Humanity by freeing the imprisoned evil? And then for some reason Tyrael asks the same weak old man that clearly is a fool and a coward to go to Hell and destroy the Soulstone? WHY? Not only is Marius weak but he is a coward as well. Even if he tries it, there are two Primal Evils he needs to pass by unnoticed, even if he does that by some miracle in Hell he will meet waves and waves of demons. I am new to Diablo and understand little but this baffles me so much.
Baal's face was way more grotesque and disturbing in the original cinematic. This one looks waay too refined and animated, as aimed towards young teenagers.
damn, get outta here with this diablo 3 "nephalem" crap. that word didnt even exist in the franchise before the awful game. before, the heroes were just regular ass humans doing what they could.
Diablo? Who made the man old , the Dark or the light? U fight all but who make them old and die? The right or the wrong?? U r child then grow up and strong to fight but then u r weak becoz u r old?? Who make? The God or The Evil?? Come on!! The Buddha will teach u?? If u think the nature make ,so the nature will cover and over the God or the Dark !! Come on the Buddha would teach u!!!
Instead of killing Marius right away and take the stone, Baal plays with his victim by asking Marius to give him the stone and then reveals himself so the old man emotionally devastated before he dies. That is true evil right there...
Yeah, doesn't scream Lord of Destruction so much as Lord of Cuntery really.
@@mnomadvfx destroyed his mind, next level destruction there
This is true to how Deckard Cain described him in Diablo III: Book of Cain. He claimed that Baal is just as cunning and nefarious as his siblings, quite capable of using strategy and deception to further his goals. Yet, a lot of people find him predictably destructive simply due to being outwardly brash and reckless
He IS one of the Prime Evils for a reason. I'd say he's even worse than Mephisto and Diablo.
Soul stone might be able to protect Marius from being attacked by monsters. I guess it because Marius can go into very dangerous places without any hurt.
Original Diablo 2 story without expansion was somewhat poetic. It started with the Dark Wanderer walking among the flames and it ended with Dark Wanderer doing the very same thing. Brother like Brother.
yeah they should never had made the expansion and just released it as diablo 3
@@ThePatank what do you talk? Its only 1 act
well yeah, but it's a different Dark Wanderer the two times... :P
It's not the Dark Wanderer what the hell are you talking about? Marius (that old man) thinks it's Tyrael but it's Baal. How can you misunderstand that part?
@@ddenozor They're saying that Baal's disguise is reminiscent of Diablo's, they're using the epithet "Dark Wanderer" to describe the aesthetics of both. What they mean is that just as Diablo was a hooded cloaked man walking among flames, Baal in this cutscene was a hooded cloaked man walking among flames.
I like this cinematic makes Baal a new wanderer. Good symbolism
And open space for Lord of Destruction
yeah that was awesome. the dark wanderer was THE symbol of diablo 2. throughout the marketing and trailers, this dude was shown front and centre. in the game itself, the player character literally follows him throughout the entire story. hes even on the damn cover of the game.
so having baal look kind of like a new "dark wanderer" for us to hunt, as a teaser for act 5, was really really well done. shows how much thought they put into it. makes the original game and xpac really flow together, and not feel like 2 entirely different things.
That's all it is. Just a never ending chain of soulstones changing hands, and a wanderer trying to bring about the end of humanity.
What I love about this cinematic is Baal asks Marius to give the soulstone instead of just killing him and taking it.
Why is that so exactly?
@@Ronin3453 I think it goes back to the free will aspect of humans. It could also be viewed as a total defeat of good. If Baal would've just crushed him and take the stone then it would show only that he was just more powerful than Marius. But if Marius willingly surrenders the stone then the corruption is complete. It shows that man was given free will and still went on and destroyed the earth.
@@alexandrutoma8065 That reply was poetry
@@alexandrutoma8065 Except not really. Marius didnt know it was Baal - he didnt give him the stone because he was corrupted, he gave it to him because he was fooled and believed it was Tyriel. Another reason why Baal killed him after. If he had truly corrupted him there would be no reason to kill him. My guess, its simply a case of toying with your prey. Baal is the lord of destruction, and simply killing him would be borderline mercy. But here he pretty much toys with him and rubs his misstake in his face.
Amusing.
Marius' story is almost as tragic as Leoric, I still feel really bad for him
Leoric lost everything because of Diablo. Turned him insane, to bring ruin to his kingdom and destroy his family. Wife was executed, prince Albrecht turned into D1 host, Aidan made into Dark Wanderer and D2 host. Leoric ends up undead, and then his granddaughter is a vessel for 7 Prime Evils, betrayed by her own mother. Absolutely disgusting.
The voice acting in these cinematics is still giving me goosebumps to this day
Frank Gorshin did the Marius job.
"However, I'm not your Archangel Tyrael (evil laugh)" -creepiest and most doomed words you'll hear before you die.
This is the only cinematic where u at least see the hands of the hero who defeated diablo and smashing the soulstones. Almost brought me to tears the first time I saw it.
what do you mean? The hero who defeated diablo the first time is the dark wondered who then becomes diablo in D2. And then all 7 playable characters from D2 teamed up to kill him a second time... Marius doesn't know how they looked like, so in his retelling, the person in he forge just looks like the dark wanderer.
@@mariosblago94 in d2 I mean. there's no cinematic where any of the 7 heroes were included in it.
@@boybumbatso1582 there's no D2 cinematic with the heroes at all because Marius didn't know who they were. All D2 cinematics are from his perspective; except the last one, at the doors
@@mariosblago94 the one hammering the soulstones. As I said thats the closest thing you get.
@@boybumbatso1582 but that isn't the hero that defeats diablo. Is just Marius' idea based on the dark wanderer.
None of the heroes wear robes and a hood
Poor Marius, he was screwed from the very beginning.
Bro just wanted to help a dude that was begging for help. Crossed a burning bridge to do it as well. True bro right there, considering his cowardice.
Since I recall that you don't see Marius in hell, I like to think his "reward" was a quick death and a painless afterlife.
@@stoheha It's been a long time, but I believe you encounter Marius in Diablo 3 at some point. As a vision, as a ghost, I can't remember the reason.
@@cat5kable in Diablo 3, Act IV, Marius returns as the ghost to troll the Triggered PC Tyrael but fails also.
Yeah he made an big mistake for giving an soul stone to baal.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
I'm still hyped for a game that was a hype 20 years ago.
Such a great twist ending, loved it always.
it's not a great twist ending... it's extremely predictable right from the start. Come on... a hooded figure with demonic voice... did you really not realize it's not tyreal? Don't lie to yourself just because of nostalgia.
It was Tyrael's fault for not finding Marius before Baal.
In this time he was still weak due to his imprisonment on tal rasha's chamber.
Tyrael should not trust Marius for that task.
To be fair, Tyrael was also busy helping US the whole time to destroy Diablo before he united all of Hell to eradicate humanity. Lord knows Imperius certainly didn't care what happened to us, sitting on his high horse.
@@WTF-vl5rq He doesnt really have a choice in a first place. They are fighting against time since 3 Prime Evil are taking over on our world in such a short time.
@@Spiralpaladin Please don't remind us of any of the weird lore they added in the books and sequels.
So glad they kept the original voices.
i love how all the crazy people start screaming louder before marius give the stone to baal
ya, but this is made even better in the original cinematic. Here it is barely noticeable! :(
All that for kicking a dying camel
Had it coming I guess.
(Edit: the movements in the eyes are top-notch.)
Somehow I always thought that this cinematic took place years after the rest, which wouldn’t make much sense chronologically and in the context of the game. But it was the soulstone, all this time, that had aged Marius unnaturally.
To be fair that's part of the missdirect.
Its meant to make you think you won and got a happily ever after, only for the game to slap you with the Baal reveal
That and the sheer amount of stress he went under from the ordeal and the malnutrition that came with being trapped in that asylum being fed god knows what kind of slop. Going through something like that, you're bound to look rougher and older than you actually are.
It honestly might have. It's implied that Baal had been looking for awhile. Even assuming that he left to find Marius right after opening the gateway, you don't arrive in Harrogath until Baal had conquered almost all the barbarian lands, there's a pretty sizeable time window inbetween act 4 and 5. I took to interpret it that you just relaxed for a few years, and then later on heard about the ruckus on Mt Arreat and showed up, way too late in typical diablo fashion.
As I was lucky enough to play D2 before expansion came out I must say this was a perfect ending for the game.
Although LoD brought a lot of improvements. The whole Act V just didn't have the same feel, story was little weird all the sudden we were supposed to care about some world stone we never heard before. Baal turned from his great mummy/demon look in D2 into that crab legged monstrosity. For me Act V was never something I looked for playing since game clearly reached it's climax in hellish Act IV. Although game wasn't ruined by the expansion by any means, I wish they kept Baal for D3 and went with different direction.
so happy to hear someone else point out how lame baals look was in the expansion. I think tentacle mummy was a lot scarier, being a monstrous human instead of this weird giant grab centaur mess
Well lore wise it's not his body, he's trapped in Tal-Rasha, so I'm assuming that the body acted as a limiter for his powers?
yes exactly D2 Act IV was beautiful and whole in itself.
0:22 In the original cinematic, Diablo's soul went into the soulstone embedded in his forehead. But here, his soul went into his body. Is that an oversight?
Wow you are right in original you can see how the soul is sucked into the stone but not here...
Yep looks like a mistake to me
Because it was sucked by black soul stone so the soul could not back to the diablo soulstone. Thats why crushing it did not ward off evil. Heroes just destroyed empty stone. Diablo soul was not there that why it in this cinematic it was fixed (same as fact that Diablo previously had his soulstone in his head and did not drop it somwhere off carrige as wanderer. They fixed it to be canonical with D3 and coming story.
@@GRIMHOOD99 Because it was sucked by black soul stone so the soul could not back to the diablo soulstone. Thats why crushing it did not ward off evil. Heroes just destroyed empty stone. Diablo soul was not there that why it in this cinematic it was fixed (same as fact that Diablo previously had his soulstone in his head and did not drop it somwhere off carrige as wanderer. They fixed it to be canonical with D3 and coming story.
@@marcmartino8518 Because it was sucked by black soul stone so the soul could not back to the diablo soulstone. Thats why crushing it did not ward off evil. Heroes just destroyed empty stone. Diablo soul was not there thats why in this cinematic it was fixed (same as fact that Diablo previously had his soulstone in his head and did not drop it somwhere off carrige as wanderer). They fixed it to be canonical with D3 and coming story.
Angels and Demons in the Diablo Universe don't have "Free Will". Humanity, that comes from both Angel and Demon has. Free will and that that makes us Human (a.i. more complete) is the main Theme of Diablo, as established by the Sin War Trilogy and D3. So in here, Baal is making Marius give the stone of his free will judgement, which is a symbolism that humanity is a slave to Evil's influence. A moral victory on top of a physical victory for Baal.
However, I personally don't think that Theme was invented at the time of D2, so you can look at this like Dracula asking Randfiled to enter his home "of his free will", which goes to the same theme of "humanity accepting evil willingly"
100% THIS
Bullshit you saying that Diablo, Bhaal, or Lilith, Tyrael, doesn't have free will? Where did you get this info?
@@rendomone dude...think again. they dont have "free will" in a sense that they cant choose who they want to be, like humanity. they are bound to their purpose and nature.
@@thahoule7924 remember Angel Izual who became demon. Lilith as a demon even had relationship with Angel. And I didn't saw any human who became Angel. But Tyrael became mortal. So you mistaken bible with diablo lore.
If you will give me a qoute where it says demons and angels doesn't have free will.
Its part of our world mythological lore that evil while possess tremendous strength, cannot really do as they please unless they were given permission to.
Example would be werewolf that cannot enter people house unless they are invited to, thats why many demon or evil can transform into human to help them deceive human.
I'm having goosebumups, jesus christ ! This is just amazing !
Idk man this game is gona suck
@@ramoncolonx12 how is a genre defining game going to suck after they remastered like it was ment to be remastered?
In hindsight, it was clever of the original creators to plan the expansion way ahead, by leaving it open ended in the original (with Marius holding onto Baal's soulstone).
They didn't planned for an expansion, act V was going to be part of D2 but they had to cut it
That moment when Baal took that soulstone, it felt like something was missing. A little more glow, a little audio shocks, to express the grave change in fate?
Also Marius' expression when realizing Baal is lacking as well... feels like he gave it to despair way too long ago already.
I agree. In the original cinematic Baal's disguise was more mysterious and the moment of truth was more shocking. But I think this is my only complaint until now. :)
True, tho I have more complains for previous acts cinematics, this one was not great, but somewhat expressed the emotions and the general idea, also original voice acting helped a lot. They need to step up their animations, facial expressions.
@@BitWise501 Agreed. Honestly what I hated the most is Act 4's opening. With the screams nearly muted, I felt completely lost.
"Lady VaMarius weeping in her chamber... sings, 'I, Lady VaMarius, am so so sad! Where has the treasure gone, that once made me glad?'"
Whenever I want to take something from someone, I instinctively say "give it to me Marius...".
Who else knew from the beginning? That the man in the hood interviewing marius was not tyriel from the beginning?
Well Tyrael has a different voice and is black...so everyone
@@kch1303 Tyrael didn’t have an ethnicity until he he became mortal in 3.
No I understand, im making a joke
Literally always suspected the wanderer of being Diablo, but they did intend to imply the man speaking with Marius was Tyrael
It was fairly obvious in the first cinematic that Marius was being fooled, we just didnt know by who. The reason is that we can hear the sounds of torture in the background, and surely Tyrael would not calmly ask Marius for his story while screams of pain ring out nearby.
I'm watching all the cinematics on youtube, because I will skip them today as soon as I see them ingame.
This needed more tears.
would of been great of he converted Marius into some super unique we could farm for eternity.
Make him into a moon lord with fanaticism and super fast mods also make him physical immune
dual auras.
Fanat and conviction, toss LE and MS in there....😀
ffs, would have*
Man, poor Marius.
So is there some tidbit of lore I’m unaware of that stops Baal from taking his soulstone from Marius? He seemed pretty insistent that Marius actually give him the stone.
I always thought he was just fking around with him and wanted him to tell the story for his own amusement.
@@Heix91 that’s what I assumed too, but I’d think he’d do the “I’m not tyreal!” Reveal as soon as he saw the stone and then just take it from Marius.
Maybe the evils being unable to claim their own stones was a planned plot point that got scrapped and this is all that remains of it.
@@Shovelchicken There could be something to that idea. Just like he needed Marius to pull the stone he needed him to give it.
Although realistically I think it was a way to make the cinematic more intriguing.
I think it’s because he didn’t know if he had it on him, or had it hidden somewhere.
@@TheHeartlessFour but after Marius pulled it out he still insisted Marius give it to him rather than just taking it.
I’m probably fixating on this detail too much and it’s likely nothing more than a slight lapse in the writing.
god, i Iove the voice acting. when Baal revealed he wasn't Tyrael, you can just feel the fear in Marius' breaking voice
Lord of hatred and terror are defeated along with other two lesser evils.
With four great evils stain but only three left the lords of destruction lies and sin are remain.
Ball has a better boss walk in this version.
Marius was a fool, sure, but he didn't deserve to get caught up in the events that would take his sanity. Perhaps in death, his soul at last found some peace.
Cool little detail, if you check the subtitles marius says Lo which is the hebrew word for no.
Did they use the old recording for Marius?
I think all the sound files are the same.
@@megalaxmax9979 They absolutely are, save some sound effects. Definitely the voices are the same, without question.
Marius' voice actor is dead afaik.
You cant repeat a voice with someone with lung cancer lmao
Ngl im just watching here cause i haven't bought the game, yet...
it'd be awesome in 4 if you had to go to the ruins of this asylum and talk to Marius's ghost.
Marius: Tyrael!
Baal:...Sure, why not.
Marius helped Diablo for so long and Baal still kills him. Marius could have doomed the world again if he had been allowed to live
Baal's new face is nowhere near as creepy as the original.
Told you don't give it to him twenty years ago....
I was never able to tell what followed Baal after he exited Marius' cell. Are they insects, or rats? Even with the updated graphics it's hard for me to tell o.O
Reminds me of the scarabs from the Mummy movies. This always made them more disturbing to me.
is it just me or did they tone down the impact of hellforge hammer...i remember it hitting harder in the original, whats up with that
and in the original, the hammer falls over and then is dragged after destroying the second stone, as if the weight of the task was exhausting. its the little touches that they missed.
Poor Marius. I feel sorry for him.
I always wondered why, rather than just take the stone and leave, Baal lets Marius tell his tale.
I've come up with two theories: Either demons can't take anything from humans without the humans' consent (not even when the demon is Baal and the thing is his soulstone), or Baal was just a sadist. I lean more towards the latter myself.
Demons like to Troll
The only thing i dont like is hpw in the original as he walks out it had an almost dreamlike quality. His cloak swayed slowly almost unnaturally as he slowly walks and the screen seems to blurr around his power
Its still great but its missing that edge of....strangeness
I have the same feeling about Marius in the remaster. Technically he's more detailed, but he's missing a lot of the rocking back and forth movements that the original had.
@@tribalbeat6471 ya and he doesnt quite look as haggard as he did originally
@@ConnorNotyerbidness I like how gross and not normal he looked in the original. He just looks like a skinny old man in this one. The audio balancing is really weird too. Doesn't really match up with where he is spaciously in the cutscenes.
@@tribalbeat6471 no in the original he Was just a skinny old man
But
He looked substantially worse than he did in the past
The contrast was bigger
@@ConnorNotyerbidness I mean more the actual geometry of his face due to limitations of 3d modeling at the time. It was less realistic, but it lent a better feel to the cutscenes in my opinion.
Damn they really screwed up the outro of baal leaving the prison.
Thats great how stone catches fire.
ScoobyLupus evolui através de cartas que ele pega eu seu focus
I had a lot of fun playing Diablo 3 even though the story was kinda weak. I didn't dislike the storyline, but I didn't have the proper context having never finished Diablo 2. Resurrected was my chance to experience D2's storyline and OMG did it absolutely blow D3 out of the water in every way imaginable!
What item gave Baal 100% chance of level 40 Blaze on killing an enemy?
this version looks absolutely amazing compared to the original
Destroyed the soulstone yesterday. I felt like the 11 year old version of myself again during that moment.
I have to say, this one was better in the original solely due to Marius. Compare the original one to this, and you see how much more affected by Baal's Soulstone he was. He looks not only old, but also ragged and decrepit. He is twitchy, his hands move irregularly, he is constantly weeping and close to doubling over. He was a shattered person, where as this one just kind of has a sad face and doesn't emote enough.
I wish it would have showed the battle between the heroes and Diablo in these cutscene, would have been so bad ass to see a druid throwing tornados in 4k.
The silver lining in all of this is that with the death of Marius there is one less stupid person in the world.
This cinematic is great but baal's exit was far more epic in the original.
Where is act 3 cinematic?
You know when i whas little i never thought about this but...why did Baal listen to Marius story when he only came for his Soulstone???
Perhaps Baal couldn't take the stone by force and so acted the part of Tyrael until Marius handed it over.
Probably far more likely, he just wanted to toy with Marius before "rewarding" him.
Because Baal likes messing with people.
He messes with the emissary at Secheron before killing him, and toys with the main characters before engaging them personally as well.
The guy's just a massive troll that way.
They should have kept his face obscured without the soulstone illuminating his face. The mystery was creepier.
ether that's diablo or the warrior himself was trying to escape from the body that's now diablo.
in the actual game captions come up for when he says no no no no but the captions are spelling Lo! Lo! Lo! Lo! Lo! lol literally curiously googling about it right now.
this cinematic is substandard, the inmates screamed more in the OG cinematic once the stone was offered up, clearly the new people at Blizzard have no attention to detail, also diablo's ghost not going into the soulstone
How did Marius get in jail to begin with? What did he do?
It's not a jail. It's an insane asylum.
Heavily implied he hid himself away there with the soulstone.
If only they made Diablo 3 resurrected also
So they forgot to destroy the last stone or they just couldn't find it because it was hidden where the sun don't shine?
Marius had the last soul stone all time whe he reached hells gate he just run away if he just wait a year he will encounter with heroes and delivered they the stone but he just run away just as baal planed.
I prefer the original cinematic when the Soulstones were being destroyed. The hero destroying them looked like he put more effort smashing them to bits.
One thing I can't forgive this cinematic compared to the original is how less... *prominent* Baal's soulstone is here.
It simply looks like a cheap imitation of a precious stone...
Whereas in the original it *EMANATED* with magic, power, and the supernatural. It looked and felt scary there. But not here... :(
Its time that blizzard is making a actual movie of this game ..!!
Still got me wow
RIP Mariusz
Is that Baal with the yellow soul stone?
Yea. Baal has the yellow stone. Diablo has a red stone. And Mephisto had blue balls.
Why dont they focus all these resources on D4?
1:39 "私と同じ"
Does Diablo 2 Resu have cross progression?
Baal's movement looks strange.
In old cinematics he looked like a boss, and this one looks like clown who walks in a park
marius is so expressionless in this one, his movements dont match the sound he makes either.
I too feel something is off
I agree the animation isn't quite right.
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I think addition of bugs at the end is not very good .
Strike me down with all of your hatred & your journey towards the dark side will be complete
Jesus...and I though Mephisto and Diablo were evil. Baal is even worse!
I HAVE TO GET DIABLO II: RESURRECTED ON PS4.
진짜... 그 예전의 장엄하고 어두운 분위기를 못살리는구나.... 뭐가 그렇게 급하길래 저렇게 만들었지...
Goddamn speedrunners at it again
Thank you for playing this for me. When I played diablo 2 it was with a narcissistic son of a peer member who blamed me for running off ahead because of lag on his internet connection. He turned into a 10 year stalker and I fear if I actually replay this he'll misconstrue it as me wanting him back, so...thank you for memory lane Activision/blizzard/Microsoft , but you can keep him in diablo. it's the one MBA you don't want to be part of because it holds a stalkers union every 6 months.
This year I've programmed the stalkers union with a Tik tok hypnosis goodbye. 100% legal and in agreement with all parents.
i like old cinematic more it was more genuine marius was much better and baals face
so true omg. marius doesn't feel as genuine. mephisto looks akward with no mouth movement
@@ScegfOd_ i mean he had really horrendous lip sync in the og cinematic
@@ScegfOd_ mephistos face in the original cinematic didnt make sense. he didnt have a face in the game, it was just a skull. so his mouth movement is actually fully intentional in the remaster: he doesnt really use the mouth to speak. hes basically an evil spirit speaking, and the mouth is just moving along with it.
No primeiro jogo, dei risada da cena. Acho que tenho problema.
Marius = College Student: “Take it! Take it, take it - Look what these years of study have done to me!”
Baal = Real World + Debts
Marius: “No… No… No, no, no - What have I done to deserve this -“
@Asmongold. Need to react this :D
I cannot understand why people like Marius. He seems like a total coward and a fool.
Firstly he follows the Wanderer. Clearly the Wanderer is not a good guy so why follow him at all? I can pass it up as maybe the Wanderer could have killed him otherwise so he decided to obey him in order to survive. Okay. I can pass that.
But then he frees Baal because Baal asked him to? Why help the forces of Evil like that? Because he was afraid? Tyrael was clearly winning so why screw Heaven and Humanity by freeing the imprisoned evil?
And then for some reason Tyrael asks the same weak old man that clearly is a fool and a coward to go to Hell and destroy the Soulstone? WHY? Not only is Marius weak but he is a coward as well. Even if he tries it, there are two Primal Evils he needs to pass by unnoticed, even if he does that by some miracle in Hell he will meet waves and waves of demons.
I am new to Diablo and understand little but this baffles me so much.
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The bugs are different.
Baal's face was way more grotesque and disturbing in the original cinematic. This one looks waay too refined and animated, as aimed towards young teenagers.
marius is lacking some mannerisms from the original one. still good tho.
Do these demon kings really think they can take on the nephalim without uniting?
damn, get outta here with this diablo 3 "nephalem" crap. that word didnt even exist in the franchise before the awful game. before, the heroes were just regular ass humans doing what they could.
@@thahoule7924 ? "we are the spirits of the nephalem, the ancient ones" The first thing the acnients tell you, when you engage them in act 5.
Transmutation
Remastered graphics, but a game you cannot play :) #play offline only nerds
Diablo? Who made the man old , the Dark or the light?
U fight all but who make them old and die? The right or the wrong??
U r child then grow up and strong to fight but then u r weak becoz u r old?? Who make? The God or The Evil??
Come on!! The Buddha will teach u??
If u think the nature make ,so the nature will cover and over the God or the Dark !!
Come on the Buddha would teach u!!!
So baal decided she had enough of eternity?
Nice , first !!