In the wake of the electric car future we just gotta give Porsche a standing ovation for making these beautiful monsters. Absolutely stunning engineering and design.
@@odinikita4821 the european union has committed to effectively banning internal combustion production cars by 2035. there will not be any going back from there. the swiss will have to figure it out.
@@crimsonpirate1710 you've clearly not driven the Porsche Taycan GTS, Turbo, or Turbo S varients. Nothing bad about electric power. Torque and HP always there. Ask a F1 driver.
They did it with the Black Series as well, just did drifts and didn’t do any timed laps? Then that’s all their coverage not seen anything since - pointless these cars are made for lap times
6:49 was the full 20832m track layout. The 6:47 done by the gt2rs was only the 20600m layout. So actually the gt3rs was faster by some 3 seconds. However, that gt2rs was on cup 2 tires and not cup 2R. With the Cup2R AND the MR package, the equivalent full track layout time was 6:43.
@@Tony11442 it’s not accurate. The GT2RS non MR was 6:47 around 20.6km as stated but it was on Cup 2R. 992 3RS goes 6:44 around the same 20.6km lap. GT2RS MR with Cup 2R was 6:38 around 20.6km lap.
@@adbracing1003 No. the 6:47 was on cup 2, not cup 2R. hence why the SVJ was able to beat it. The MR package alone wasn't going to improve 9 whole seconds on a lap. however, the cup 2R also don't quite have the advantage people imagine, because it's a qualifying tire, it loses its edge after about 4 minutes into the lap. Nonetheless, over the full ring course, should be a difference of about 5-6 seconds.
There is a huge tyre size difference between these cars. Cayman 718 GT4RS: 245/35R20 (F); 295/30/R20 (R), 992 911 GT3RS: 275/35R20 ; 335/30R21. I can imagine that tyres alone would contribute to a significant difference in performance between the 2 and perhaps not so much all the downforce hype. Although downforce gets the attention because its marketable? 🙊
The tires widths do make an enormous difference on high speed turns, which the ring is riddled with. Definitely a controlled ingredient as part of precisely separating these from a marketing perspective. IMO get a cayman and spend the $ difference on slicks or full R comps.
I have taken my 718 and a 3RS and a gt4, gt3 with the widest then gt4 then mine S. And the TIRES make A HUGE difference. WIDER is better and the difference is insane!
Downforce is not hype mate! It's what provides the friction where the rubber hits the tarmac... More downforce, more g-s car can pull esp in turns. Tyre width matters of course but is meaningless if there is low downforce since the maximal fictional force the tyres can provide without slipping is directly proportional to the downforce.
@@tsv8664completely wrong, the lateral force is proportional to to vertical load. The vertical load is mostly the cars weight, downforce being a little bonus on top (in road cars). Road car aero is mostly about reducing drag.
@@danijelgasparic3658 Mmm, I get what you mean, but I was referring to the overall downward "push" on the road surface (component of weight perpendicular to the road surface-tyre contact area interface + aerodynamic downforce) which is then, by Newton's 3rd Law, equal to the reaction force by the road on the wheels... Known as the "Normal force" because its direction is always perpendicular to the surface - surface contact area. It is THIS force which determines the maximal static frictional force which the rubber-tarmac interface can provide to prevent slipping or skidding. The dynamical constraints of accelerating in a straight line is different to the demands of maintaining traction (and control) in bends when lateral forces require the tyres to sustain the centripetal acc. implied by the turn speed and the radius of curvature. One of the reasons the GT3 RS is so good on track is because the extra wing area effectively translates to a greater static fictional load the tyre-road interface can provide in high speed corners (the lateral forces you are referring to). Of course, the relationship between the coefficient of friction and tyre width is another factor to consider ito effect on traction...Basically, the softer the rubber compound, the higher the coefficient of friction, but this in turn requires a wider tyre to make the contact area stable and less prone to deformation which affects the car's dynamics in a range of other ways. fs(max)=(coeff. static friction) * Normal force. So you can increase the maximal allowable fictional load on the tyres by either having a stickier tyre or a better normal force.
@@cartergarnon6299 Funny you say that. A friend of mine has more than enough money to buy himself a 911 Carrera GTS, and yet he went on to buy a Cayman GTS 4.0 instead because it's lighter and more responsive than the 911.
@@farishanafiah8461 That makes sense. At the end of the day, it's about the experience you want. Plus, for my two cents, even if I had money for the 911, I might get the Cayman just because I might feel more comfortable driving the tires off of it and replacing parts. I always wonder about getting cars that are too rare or too "whatever" and if the owners ever really get to ring them out and run them hard like they're made for. Maybe they do, and I hope so. Either way, it sounds like your friend made the right choice for himself, and I hope he as a blast.
Agree 100%!!! GT3 RS is undeniable but I always ask myself "which one can I get the most joy out of with my abilities and on the road?" Basically, 4RS is all the amazing us mere mortals need to smile ear to ear.
The GT3 RS is super impressive engineering that lets it stick to the road but I would take the GT4 RS everyday. It has personality, it slides around, it throws you around while sounding amazing. May not be as fast but it just looks so much fun to drive compared to the GT3 RS in my opinion
@DisinterestedSimp If you do not know what you're talking about, then please don't comment. I own both of these cars, plus the new 992 gen 911 GT3 RS...plus the 992 GT3 Cup car. They don't "detune" it. It's the same engine, flipped 180 degrees, to fit in a mid engine platform. The reason it has 9 less HP and 15 less lb-ft is because of the longer exhaust system. You are however, correct, that they would never let it beat the bigger brother GT3 (let alone the even bigger brother GT3 RS). The bigger reason isn't the slightly less HP and torque...the bigger reasons are: 1) way less downforce than the GT3 (and waaay less than the GT3 RS, of course), older 991 suspension on the GT4 RS whereas the 992 GT3 and GT3 RS have the first double wishboe suspension in those cars. 3) Even though it's the smallest dimensionally, it's the heaviest of the 3 cars. My manual GT3 is 101 lbs. lighter than my GT4 RS (and the PDK GT3 is 64 lbs. lighter)...and my GT3 RS is 53 lbs. lighter. 4) Gearing...the GT4 RS has shorter gears...but that can be good or bad depending on track specifics. So, "detune" is a lazy way to talk when you don't know the facts. The only thing that is correct is that they make sure it doesn't beat the GT3 family and, yes, IF all other things were equal (which they are faaar from not), a mid-engine platform would be superior.
@@jasonb71wait what. Aren’t both these cars mid rear engine aren’t the engines in the same place. Is one engine have trans forwards and one trans rear? Is that what you meant by flipped 180?
The noise that GT4 RS made was incredible. As always I enjoyed the camera work too (especially windscreen view, how did they do that with no visible cameras outside?) I'm also glad they've added video chapters too. But they forgot this one at 9:16 where both of them almost went into the pearly gates, in a cayman
Please please please do more of the these!!! On the track, very clever handicap putting the more experienced driver in the car missing the massive downforce and braking. I would love to see same class comparisons with equal drivers running hot laps at the same time as hard as you guys just went. Great stuff there!😊
I think the one the fly chassis adjustments are a brilliant idea. What better way to teach chassis setup than enabling AB testing of different settings literally back to back to feel what effect the changes are having?
The gt3 rs laptime comparison vs the gt2 is wrong. The old gt2 rs did a 6.47 on the shorter old circuit, whereas the new gt3 did a 6.49 on the longer new circuit (circuit is same just different measuring zone) and the new gt3 rs did a 6.44 on the old circuit, making it 3 seconds quicker than a regular gt2 rs. The manthey one did a 6.43 on the new track and a 6.38 on the old
I had the pleasure to take my buddy’s gt4 out to the mountains and there’s absolutely no way you hit its limits on the corners no matter how hard you try that thing is an absolute weapon and a magnet to the road. It may kick the back end out but it doesn’t lose grip it’ll just get out of the corner even faster if you keep pushing it more. Can’t believe something that weighs so much can just move like a ufo. It doesn’t even seem possible
the cayman gt4 rs is an absolute masterpiece. we expect the 911 gt3 rs to be an incredible car but ever since i first saw the cayman gt4 rs ive loved that car.
The GT3 RS is actually faster around the Nurburgring than the old GT2 RS. Personally if I had to choose, I'd go with the GT3 RS over the GT4 RS. I'm not an old man, so I can handle a firm ride. I also just prefer the looks of the GT3 RS.
You wouldn't be able to use a fraction of the cars performance on the road, it would be a total waste of a great car using it for posing shooting flames in the high street, old man or not
@@4Kandlez The same can be said for any performance car. There's no way you can use a GT4 RS's potential on the road. And if you're buying a car like that, odds are you're a person who would enjoy taking it to a track as well. And for that I'd choose the GT3 RS all day every day
@@peterbett3076 Not all of us will get a chance to test drive it immediately. Porche is known for its driving pleasure and that should be the most important aspect of the video. Anyone can search for the specifications and that doesn't require the video!
imagine if they gave the engineers unfettered access to modify the 4RS as much as the 3RS. Same insane aero techniques and so on. It would probably be the ultimate track weapon.
the 718 chassis is and will always be inferior to the 911 one. There is a reason the 911 is their flagship model. The GT4RS could be brought very close to GT3RS in terms of aero and upping the engine power to match it but will always be slower than the GT3rs.
@@peeturpain9379 and that’s why they made the 911 RSR mid engine? If you give the mid-engine chassis the same suspensions as the rear engine one they isn’t a lot of reasons it wouldn’t beat it.
718s out of the box and all boxster/caymans for that matter have serious stability problems under braking - any sort of steering angle will cause the car to snap under braking if you aren't careful with weight management. 911s don't suffer this flaw. You can fix it in the 718 but that requires aftermarket tuning. Even the GT4RS has this problem!
@@redpriest26very aware as a GT4 driver. That’s due to the suspension geometry though and there is no reason it couldn’t be fixed if the mid-engine chassis did away with the McPherson just like the 992 GT3 did.
ı personally really enjoy Ollie's car reviews because his voice and excitements merging with the engine sound and exhaust noise and keeps the rythim up all time in the video!
It was interesting to see the differences between the GT3 and GT4 class cars. I race a 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport against other GT4 cars in a mixed class races with GT3 Cup Cars. The GT3 cars average about 10 seconds per lap faster than the GT4s at tracks like Daytona, Sebring and Watkins Glen, with similar skill levels of the drivers.
@@nlsdrf1290 it has over 200 hp and shitloads of torque more. It better should be. On the other hand, the 992 GT3 RS is among the elite with the highest lateral force of any street legal production car. Its lateral forces basically equal the AMG One and proper GT FIA cars.
That danger: intake zone sticker on the cayman is kind of cool. Not sure if I’d leave it off or on but I won’t ever afford such problems anyways…🤷♂️ 😆 these car are both Incredible in my book. 👍
@@Meadie69 Porsche has a tendency to REMOVE parts from their cars and then charge MORE for those models. I'd say that level of trolling shows a pretty good sense of humor.
Gs on braking and cornering... great test! Please do more of those. Preferably with a VBox, Dragy or any other reliable tool that can make it repeatable and accurate, also would be great if both cars have the same kind of tires, you can even take 2 equal cars and test different tires brands.
Playing with the best Porsche RSes, WHAT a job this is 😂❤️ I love them both, but I think I actually prefer the Cayman because it's mid-engined and smaller ❤️
What amazes me is how Porsche has always managed to keep a car born 60 years ago at the top of the podium, with a particularity that everyone has decried since its birth: the rear overhung engine. They've always done well, and make us dream with every new model, except perhaps the 996, with its myth-busting headlights, but it's been improved, very quickly ! Thank you, engineers, and above all, don't sell your soul to ecological good thinking ! 😉
Re legislation of the rear wing: it doesn't extend beyond the end of the car, which is how they're managed it, similar to the Senna. If you look at a gt4 race car, their wings stick out beyond the rear of the car.
Having stopped watching the TV show in 2019, it's nice to see the YT channel making what's basically a less contrived, more informed version of what the TV show used to be about.
The 991 was the first/only GT3RS I've ever driven and I smiled for 3 weeks afterwards. Either or both of the new RS cars... a slice of automotive heaven. I would gladly take either (but the price is crazy for both for the average person).
From what i saw in videos, the GT3 RS not only looks better, but with the exact same layouts with other GT RS`s its performance on race track is better. Some Porshce engineer explained how the air usage works in GT3 RS in a video. Nice to see when cool looking shapes actually work as they all should, and improves the cars performance by a lot.
In the wake of the electric car future we just gotta give Porsche a standing ovation for making these beautiful monsters. Absolutely stunning engineering and design.
Electric car future is still not certain and apparently some countries like Switzerland I believe is banning charging up cars due to the grid
@@odinikita4821 the european union has committed to effectively banning internal combustion production cars by 2035. there will not be any going back from there. the swiss will have to figure it out.
F electric cars. The death of joy is abosolute
@@crimsonpirate1710 couldn't afford one anyway
@@crimsonpirate1710 you've clearly not driven the Porsche Taycan GTS, Turbo, or Turbo S varients. Nothing bad about electric power. Torque and HP always there. Ask a F1 driver.
Why don’t they do a top gear powerlap, it seems massively wasted if they don’t
They did it with the Black Series as well, just did drifts and didn’t do any timed laps? Then that’s all their coverage not seen anything since - pointless these cars are made for lap times
It’s the same with all modern top gear RUclips. They think they’re much better at it than they really are
I can only assume that the GT3 RS is not officially on sale yet, so they can't do it.
@@farishanafiah8461 nah they could still have timed it, they’ve done it on the last with stuff that not been on sale at the point they’ve driven it
The Porsche will definitely beat the Porsche
6:49 was the full 20832m track layout. The 6:47 done by the gt2rs was only the 20600m layout. So actually the gt3rs was faster by some 3 seconds. However, that gt2rs was on cup 2 tires and not cup 2R. With the Cup2R AND the MR package, the equivalent full track layout time was 6:43.
Your comment is more accurate and informative than the entire video.
@@Tony11442 it’s not accurate. The GT2RS non MR was 6:47 around 20.6km as stated but it was on Cup 2R. 992 3RS goes 6:44 around the same 20.6km lap. GT2RS MR with Cup 2R was 6:38 around 20.6km lap.
Didn't the GT2 RS do 6:40?
@@adbracing1003 No. the 6:47 was on cup 2, not cup 2R. hence why the SVJ was able to beat it. The MR package alone wasn't going to improve 9 whole seconds on a lap. however, the cup 2R also don't quite have the advantage people imagine, because it's a qualifying tire, it loses its edge after about 4 minutes into the lap. Nonetheless, over the full ring course, should be a difference of about 5-6 seconds.
@@dieselscartalk4146 they went back a few months later and went 2 seconds faster still
There is a huge tyre size difference between these cars. Cayman 718 GT4RS: 245/35R20 (F); 295/30/R20 (R), 992 911 GT3RS: 275/35R20 ; 335/30R21. I can imagine that tyres alone would contribute to a significant difference in performance between the 2 and perhaps not so much all the downforce hype. Although downforce gets the attention because its marketable? 🙊
The tires widths do make an enormous difference on high speed turns, which the ring is riddled with. Definitely a controlled ingredient as part of precisely separating these from a marketing perspective. IMO get a cayman and spend the $ difference on slicks or full R comps.
I have taken my 718 and a 3RS and a gt4, gt3 with the widest then gt4 then mine S. And the TIRES make A HUGE difference. WIDER is better and the difference is insane!
Downforce is not hype mate! It's what provides the friction where the rubber hits the tarmac... More downforce, more g-s car can pull esp in turns. Tyre width matters of course but is meaningless if there is low downforce since the maximal fictional force the tyres can provide without slipping is directly proportional to the downforce.
@@tsv8664completely wrong, the lateral force is proportional to to vertical load. The vertical load is mostly the cars weight, downforce being a little bonus on top (in road cars). Road car aero is mostly about reducing drag.
@@danijelgasparic3658 Mmm, I get what you mean, but I was referring to the overall downward "push" on the road surface (component of weight perpendicular to the road surface-tyre contact area interface + aerodynamic downforce) which is then, by Newton's 3rd Law, equal to the reaction force by the road on the wheels... Known as the "Normal force" because its direction is always perpendicular to the surface - surface contact area. It is THIS force which determines the maximal static frictional force which the rubber-tarmac interface can provide to prevent slipping or skidding. The dynamical constraints of accelerating in a straight line is different to the demands of maintaining traction (and control) in bends when lateral forces require the tyres to sustain the centripetal acc. implied by the turn speed and the radius of curvature. One of the reasons the GT3 RS is so good on track is because the extra wing area effectively translates to a greater static fictional load the tyre-road interface can provide in high speed corners (the lateral forces you are referring to). Of course, the relationship between the coefficient of friction and tyre width is another factor to consider ito effect on traction...Basically, the softer the rubber compound, the higher the coefficient of friction, but this in turn requires a wider tyre to make the contact area stable and less prone to deformation which affects the car's dynamics in a range of other ways. fs(max)=(coeff. static friction) * Normal force. So you can increase the maximal allowable fictional load on the tyres by either having a stickier tyre or a better normal force.
Even with the new GT4 RS, both Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond would still think that people who buy a Cayman/Boxster cannot afford to buy a 911.
Because it’s still true.
@@cartergarnon6299 Funny you say that. A friend of mine has more than enough money to buy himself a 911 Carrera GTS, and yet he went on to buy a Cayman GTS 4.0 instead because it's lighter and more responsive than the 911.
@@farishanafiah8461 That makes sense. At the end of the day, it's about the experience you want. Plus, for my two cents, even if I had money for the 911, I might get the Cayman just because I might feel more comfortable driving the tires off of it and replacing parts. I always wonder about getting cars that are too rare or too "whatever" and if the owners ever really get to ring them out and run them hard like they're made for. Maybe they do, and I hope so.
Either way, it sounds like your friend made the right choice for himself, and I hope he as a blast.
@@JBOsurf And it won't make any difference to hardcore CHM Top Gear and The Grand Tour fanboys.
When "car people" tell me 911 is the only way and it's way better than a Cayman, I don't see them as car people anymore.
Agree 100%!!! GT3 RS is undeniable but I always ask myself "which one can I get the most joy out of with my abilities and on the road?" Basically, 4RS is all the amazing us mere mortals need to smile ear to ear.
One of my favourite videos so far 👌
That shot looking down the intake of the gt4 with the gt3 right on its tail...epic
ok but what about the stupid sticker on the intake?? like why was it there was it really necessary?
It's a german car, so it possibly was necessary
no a fan of this video clarkson hammond and may are better
@@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju yeh, bit overkill
@@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju yes, to keep themselves away from lawsuits
The GT3 RS is super impressive engineering that lets it stick to the road but I would take the GT4 RS everyday. It has personality, it slides around, it throws you around while sounding amazing. May not be as fast but it just looks so much fun to drive compared to the GT3 RS in my opinion
@DisinterestedSimp If you do not know what you're talking about, then please don't comment. I own both of these cars, plus the new 992 gen 911 GT3 RS...plus the 992 GT3 Cup car. They don't "detune" it. It's the same engine, flipped 180 degrees, to fit in a mid engine platform. The reason it has 9 less HP and 15 less lb-ft is because of the longer exhaust system. You are however, correct, that they would never let it beat the bigger brother GT3 (let alone the even bigger brother GT3 RS). The bigger reason isn't the slightly less HP and torque...the bigger reasons are: 1) way less downforce than the GT3 (and waaay less than the GT3 RS, of course), older 991 suspension on the GT4 RS whereas the 992 GT3 and GT3 RS have the first double wishboe suspension in those cars. 3) Even though it's the smallest dimensionally, it's the heaviest of the 3 cars. My manual GT3 is 101 lbs. lighter than my GT4 RS (and the PDK GT3 is 64 lbs. lighter)...and my GT3 RS is 53 lbs. lighter. 4) Gearing...the GT4 RS has shorter gears...but that can be good or bad depending on track specifics. So, "detune" is a lazy way to talk when you don't know the facts. The only thing that is correct is that they make sure it doesn't beat the GT3 family and, yes, IF all other things were equal (which they are faaar from not), a mid-engine platform would be superior.
@@jasonb71please take me on a ride on one of them 😂😭
@@jasonb71 What a strange way to agree with someone.
@jasonb71 911 platform for me also wins on exterior and interior design so it would be an easy choice for me..
@@jasonb71wait what. Aren’t both these cars mid rear engine aren’t the engines in the same place. Is one engine have trans forwards and one trans rear? Is that what you meant by flipped 180?
The noise that GT4 RS made was incredible.
As always I enjoyed the camera work too (especially windscreen view, how did they do that with no visible cameras outside?)
I'm also glad they've added video chapters too. But they forgot this one at 9:16 where both of them almost went into the pearly gates, in a cayman
Seriously though. 😮
The real point they both picked up the GT4 is the right hand drive.
mixing clips prob, some of the same turns with the camera mounted and some without the camera mounted but with them inside,
This felt like the tv show more than the tv show, great to see how jack and Ollie have become so fun
and butter tastes and looks like butter, lmao
Please please please do more of the these!!! On the track, very clever handicap putting the more experienced driver in the car missing the massive downforce and braking. I would love to see same class comparisons with equal drivers running hot laps at the same time as hard as you guys just went.
Great stuff there!😊
I think the one the fly chassis adjustments are a brilliant idea. What better way to teach chassis setup than enabling AB testing of different settings literally back to back to feel what effect the changes are having?
That was incredible to watch, amazing video as always folks. Happy holidays to you all.
Happy holidays brother
I think undoubtly, this is ( 911 GT3 RS) one of the top 3 best sportcars in the entire world. Thank you Mr Ollie, and Top Gear.
The sound of the gt4rs has to be top 3 of all time. Absolutely incredible.
that’s the compare I was waiting for
The gt3 rs laptime comparison vs the gt2 is wrong. The old gt2 rs did a 6.47 on the shorter old circuit, whereas the new gt3 did a 6.49 on the longer new circuit (circuit is same just different measuring zone) and the new gt3 rs did a 6.44 on the old circuit, making it 3 seconds quicker than a regular gt2 rs. The manthey one did a 6.43 on the new track and a 6.38 on the old
We are so lucky that Porsche is still making these monsters.
I mean, just the sound of that GT4RS is reason enouhg to make it car of the year!
Kudos to Porsche Engineers Once again , Beautiful !!!
The Top Gear YT Channel is everything the TV show should be.
100% agree - the current set up on BBC is absolute cringe and for me now unwatchable. These guys are great
The camera work on this was 👌🏻
I had the pleasure to take my buddy’s gt4 out to the mountains and there’s absolutely no way you hit its limits on the corners no matter how hard you try that thing is an absolute weapon and a magnet to the road. It may kick the back end out but it doesn’t lose grip it’ll just get out of the corner even faster if you keep pushing it more. Can’t believe something that weighs so much can just move like a ufo. It doesn’t even seem possible
the cayman gt4 rs is an absolute masterpiece. we expect the 911 gt3 rs to be an incredible car but ever since i first saw the cayman gt4 rs ive loved that car.
"How did they make that rear wing legal?"
*Viper ACR has entered the chat*
Subi sti 😁
Is the ACR even legal in the UK?
@@po.russki pretty sure it wasn’t EU certified by the manufacturer and would have to be a “personal import” subject to one-off approval.
Legal in the US and legal in Europe are two very different things.
Heaven above in my ears the GT4!!!!🔥
I don’t know why but I prefer more Porsche cars than Lamborghini or Ferrari
Same honestly
In my list ferrari then porsche then lambo. Ferraries are just pretier to look at
You are a person of discerning taste!🎉
It may be like this. A Ferrari or a Lamborghini is like a supermodel. A Porsche is like an amazing girl you can take home to your mother.
Top Gear team: this video felt WAY different in a GREAT way, keep doing this!
absolutely loved that video. Great job guys. Great chemistry and even greater driving!
gt4 is simply one of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen
The GT3 RS is actually faster around the Nurburgring than the old GT2 RS. Personally if I had to choose, I'd go with the GT3 RS over the GT4 RS. I'm not an old man, so I can handle a firm ride. I also just prefer the looks of the GT3 RS.
You wouldn't be able to use a fraction of the cars performance on the road, it would be a total waste of a great car using it for posing shooting flames in the high street, old man or not
@@4Kandlez The same can be said for any performance car. There's no way you can use a GT4 RS's potential on the road. And if you're buying a car like that, odds are you're a person who would enjoy taking it to a track as well. And for that I'd choose the GT3 RS all day every day
The GT4 RS looks way better to me. I'm tired of the recycled look of the 911.
It's not the numbers but the feel that matters.. Chris Harris and Porche are made for other!
Where would you most like Chris Harris to feel you?
@@peterbett3076 Not all of us will get a chance to test drive it immediately. Porche is known for its driving pleasure and that should be the most important aspect of the video. Anyone can search for the specifications and that doesn't require the video!
@@peterbett3076 creep
@@naveenaysola5989 thanks for clearing that up 👍🏻
PorSche! Learn to spell it right!
i have heard a gt3 in real life flat out and it sounds incredible
I'm jealous, for real!
Funny you say that, I had a 991 GT2 RS blow past me at 70 kph and was still fishtailing, trying to find grip at least 130kph, insane this GT lot!
I don't doubt that one bit. What a sound that must have been. Happy for you.
I have a few videos of gt3 rs and gt4. They do sound good.
@@vipe650r oh yea it’s sounded so good
Loved this video. Jack and Ollie are so great to watch. Keep it up top gear these guys are good!
imagine if they gave the engineers unfettered access to modify the 4RS as much as the 3RS. Same insane aero techniques and so on. It would probably be the ultimate track weapon.
the 718 chassis is and will always be inferior to the 911 one. There is a reason the 911 is their flagship model. The GT4RS could be brought very close to GT3RS in terms of aero and upping the engine power to match it but will always be slower than the GT3rs.
@@peeturpain9379 and that’s why they made the 911 RSR mid engine?
If you give the mid-engine chassis the same suspensions as the rear engine one they isn’t a lot of reasons it wouldn’t beat it.
And don’t forget that all flagship Porsches are mid-engine. 918 Spyder, Carrera GT, 911 GT1, 911 GT-3 RSR, and 919 Evo.
718s out of the box and all boxster/caymans for that matter have serious stability problems under braking - any sort of steering angle will cause the car to snap under braking if you aren't careful with weight management. 911s don't suffer this flaw. You can fix it in the 718 but that requires aftermarket tuning. Even the GT4RS has this problem!
@@redpriest26very aware as a GT4 driver. That’s due to the suspension geometry though and there is no reason it couldn’t be fixed if the mid-engine chassis did away with the McPherson just like the 992 GT3 did.
What we need is stig absolutely thrashing this car round the track and Clarkson announcing the lap time on the board
ı personally really enjoy Ollie's car reviews because his voice and excitements merging with the engine sound and exhaust noise and keeps the rythim up all time in the video!
One of the best things I’ve ever seen on RUclips. Epic
For me this is the best video that came from Top Gear in the last few years . Thank You
What a comparison, great content Top Gear!
I love seeing the side ways driving through the turns! You guys were really pushing those cars!
i am having so much fun watching. Can just imagine actually driving them. Awesome vid
It was interesting to see the differences between the GT3 and GT4 class cars. I race a 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport against other GT4 cars in a mixed class races with GT3 Cup Cars. The GT3 cars average about 10 seconds per lap faster than the GT4s at tracks like Daytona, Sebring and Watkins Glen, with similar skill levels of the drivers.
I 2nd this, I had a very similar experience as well. mainly between a gt4 and a 718 S.
New top gear trio idea: Ollie Marriage, Jack Rix, and Chris Harris and if not, Rory Reid. Job done.
I don't think I've ever seen you guys shook. This was FREAKING AWESOME!
That GT3RS is so purposeful and aggressive. It's one of my favourite looking cars of all time. It's just mean!
17:00 The 992 GT3 RS (6:44 - 20.6km, 6:49 20.832km) is quicker than the 991 GT2 RS Weissach lap in 2018 (6:47 - 20.6km) at the Nürburgring.
that’s nuts
And the Amg gt is faster than both
@@nlsdrf1290 it has over 200 hp and shitloads of torque more. It better should be. On the other hand, the 992 GT3 RS is among the elite with the highest lateral force of any street legal production car. Its lateral forces basically equal the AMG One and proper GT FIA cars.
@@nlsdrf1290 That was never the point of my comment.
@@BVZTIII torque makes no difference on a track. Because you’re always in a high rev range. Did you not know that? Basic knowledge
I check in here from time to time and I must say, this was good. Well done guys 🙌🏽
This was every bit as good as any Top Gear TV segment has been. Maybe some of the magazine staff should have been given a chance at hosting the show.
Every bit as good? No but decent all the same.
Very boring automotive journalism
Hard agree, I'd actually watch the main show if these 2 were on it instead of those other 2 nobs.
That danger: intake zone sticker on the cayman is kind of cool. Not sure if I’d leave it off or on but I won’t ever afford such problems anyways…🤷♂️ 😆 these car are both Incredible in my book. 👍
It’s not factory. Porsche don’t have a sense of humour…
@@Meadie69 Porsche has a tendency to REMOVE parts from their cars and then charge MORE for those models. I'd say that level of trolling shows a pretty good sense of humor.
I've been trying to figure out where to get a pair of those. I'd slap them on my 981 GT4.
You guys look like you are having WAY to much fun! ☺ You get PAID to do this??? 😁 SO much fun to watch as well. Thanks!
You guys have just made the best review of the year!
9:55, 10:46 Listen to that GT4 flat 6.
Gs on braking and cornering... great test! Please do more of those. Preferably with a VBox, Dragy or any other reliable tool that can make it repeatable and accurate, also would be great if both cars have the same kind of tires, you can even take 2 equal cars and test different tires brands.
Guys, Awesome video. Please make more like these...
Such a great video. The amazing cars help, but it's great to have two of you on as well
Playing with the best Porsche RSes, WHAT a job this is 😂❤️ I love them both, but I think I actually prefer the Cayman because it's mid-engined and smaller ❤️
Amazing video , I will say best video of latest and greatest GT cars from Porsche in close look.
私はこの比較を待っていました！！I love this video!!🇯🇵
Gotta love 718 front design, with 911 rear design
What amazes me is how Porsche has always managed to keep a car born 60 years ago at the top of the podium, with a particularity that everyone has decried since its birth: the rear overhung engine.
They've always done well, and make us dream with every new model, except perhaps the 996, with its myth-busting headlights, but it's been improved, very quickly !
Thank you, engineers, and above all, don't sell your soul to ecological good thinking ! 😉
I'd grab the GT4 RS any day over the GT3 RS. I don't care about numbers. It looks better. Sounds just as good (if not better) and is smaller.
Seems like Top Gear doesnt wanna do laptime challenge anymore.
i have to say - you are really good duo guys !
One of the best videos I’ve watched
Incredible pieces of engineering.
Re legislation of the rear wing: it doesn't extend beyond the end of the car, which is how they're managed it, similar to the Senna. If you look at a gt4 race car, their wings stick out beyond the rear of the car.
Great job on this production comparison test team. I'm proud of you. 🥇
Loving the supportive comments on the video and not just a horde of dullards blathering on about Clarkson, May and Hammond.
Not a fan of the new top gear
Been waiting for clips comparing these 2 head to head. 🤙🏻🏁
Puts drive tribe to shame this video on their current uploads. Really enjoyed that top gear 👍🏻
10:47 that sound of the gt4 rs ❤️🔥🤩
Both such amazing machines. I hope I can afford one some day. I do own a Porsche but it’s worth quite a bit less 😂
Probably one of the best youtube car reviews ever!!!!
More of this please.
GT3 RS incoming- can’t wait 🙌🏼
I never realized how much better gt3 lookd until they put them side by side
One of the best videos I have seen in ages
That's a win win test!
I just reviewed a GT3 and it blew my mind in just about every way. The RS takes it up to 12. Porsche are amazing!
Pretty awesome, the GT4 RS hung in there pretty good
It’s that 992 GT3 engine 🤙🏻🏁
I really like sounds when the 911 shifted the gear...ASMR!
This was epic brilliant production and two amazing cars but GT3 RS for me
Having stopped watching the TV show in 2019, it's nice to see the YT channel making what's basically a less contrived, more informed version of what the TV show used to be about.
Why aren't these two presenters on the TV show? Jack, Ollie and Chris Harris would make a very watchable show.
im in love every day for the gt4 rs
These 2 cars look for me like peak of gas powered cars...Great video!!! THX
this really stood out from the rest of the videos. So good!
That GT4 does sound nice 😍
The 991 was the first/only GT3RS I've ever driven and I smiled for 3 weeks afterwards. Either or both of the new RS cars... a slice of automotive heaven. I would gladly take either (but the price is crazy for both for the average person).
The new Top Gear is awesome!
Bring back Clarkson
That shot at 6:00 was something... wow!!!
That gt3 rs... what a time to be alive!!!!
Imagine the GT4 RS with the aeros and power of the GT3 RS. Would it be quicker?
I'd say that the answer should be obvious.
Should be
you forget about tires, that would make more of a difference than aero. in my opinion.
From what i saw in videos, the GT3 RS not only looks better, but with the exact same layouts with other GT RS`s its performance on race track is better. Some Porshce engineer explained how the air usage works in GT3 RS in a video. Nice to see when cool looking shapes actually work as they all should, and improves the cars performance by a lot.
I wasn’t aware the Cayman GT4 was so damn fast.😯
This is the RS version … so a bit more bacon than the ‘regular’ GT4.
I have a cayman S and I have destroyed a gt4 in a straight line from a stop and a roll start. now around the track I have been beat by a gt4.
I like the current top gear trio, but I wish Ollie and Jack were alongside Chris from the start
I love my GT4 RS
Can’t wait for mine! June…
First few seconds and the quality of this video is unmatchable
Very fast, High-revving, VW Beetles with wings on their backs.
Haha you must be the light off the party always.
Only one beetle there😊
When I saw this video hit my feed 2:47