Tip--if you have an out of tune string or note on a held chord, esp if you are double tracking, isolate the note, then chop it up into 5-6 sections. The warbly bits will pop up higher and allow you to tune just them using the macro slider. Works quicker and better for me than tuning the entire note, or using the tools to tweak. I fought one for an hour until I discovered this. Now it is perfect. And easy.
I've used most of these tips to great effect, but I've never touched those envelope/sliders because I honestly didn't know what they were for. Now, I can't wait to experiment with them!
Thanks for the video - I had never used those sliders that you describe near the end. And also the cut and paste method is really smooth compared to how I have been doing it.
..and I also want to thank Jörg from Melodyne support for answering my question so quickly. It worked out perfectly, better than I could have hoped for! Actually made my guitar playing sound good (I'm really a bass player! 🙂)@@celemony
Every time I see one of these videos I'm happy I bought the full version of Melodyne. From Pro Tools integration to tips like these, it just keeps on giving.
He’s basically doing everything a good studio guitarist should already be able to do. I understand using it as a creative tool, but not to replace practice and study.
@@johnplainsong9769 That’s not a good reason for me to use Melodyne like that. Composing, playing and recording is an experience that teaches you a lot and makes you a better musician, without having to find these tricks.
If you can play guitar and re-record it the way you like, that’s of course preferable. However, every audio engineer / mixer knows the scenario where you’re given some pre-recorded tracks to mix and you have to deal with what you’ve got. So if there’s a tool like Melodyne to fix any issues, why not use it? Plus, as you said Melodyne is also a creative tool which might inspire some unusual ideas that you wouldn’t have thought of as a guitarist. 🙂 Anyway, thanks for your comment!
No one is suggesting that Melodyne be used as a way to avoid practice. The vast majority of musicians cannot always sing or play perfectly. I have enormous respect for good studio musicians, but even they are on a musical journey, constantly improving. Melodyne is a fantastic production tool for musicians who are not yet perfect. Which I dare say is all of us.
Question for the developers of Melodyne. It's been nearly 4 years since the last upgrade which I think was in 2020. It would be nice if you can update the community on whether there will be one or not. Do you have plans to make changes to it and add more features that many others developers have now surpassed. I won't name them but I really feel you have fallen behind when you was leading the race before. So many things you could be introducing that have not happened. With AI being at the forefront of developers minds have you not at least thought of introducing AI replacement vocals or stem separation ?
I've been wondering the same thing! Perhaps they are simply allowing their competitors to catch up. I suspect that we are not far from the introduction of AI into this arena, with the software automatically telling you what is wrong with your song and then proceeding to try to fix it.
@@PelicanMultimedia The silence from melodyne is deafening. I really think it’s poor of them to allow competitors to catch up with them. Many competitors are way past them after a four year absence which I find astonishing. I request that somebody responds to these questions from Celemony. surely you have already created AI vocals and track separations. Please respond.
Just in case Celemony are reading these comments (although I doubt it) I feel I should just add that I have no interest in AI replacement or stem separation. I'm not saying your shouldn't ask for it if that's what's bugging you but I personally would just prefer for Melodyne to be more usable. I've been using it for about 4 years now and I still find it hugely un intuitive (as I've said many times before) and this video demonstrates that. How many people know that if you cut and paste it will replace any notes you have selected when pasting? If you don't have notes selected then it just duplicates the notes on top. I didn't realise that for a long time. And how many people know about those sliders and how it affects the sound? Not me for one. And I still don't know whether it affects everything in the track or just the event you have selected. But most of all I wish there was a way to directly control the pitch line rather than moving blobs around to try and get what you want. Yes, a lot of the time that works fine but sometimes you can find yourself splitting blobs, changing the pitch transition curve almost indefinitely trying to get the pitch curve to do what you want. That's what I'd like for any update - making the existing functionality (which is huge) more accessible.
@@bigstewdio you are actually 100% correct I’ve always found it very poor and its whole design without video tutorials it would be very difficult to use total agreement of what you said. In four years I should’ve improved this drastically, but I haven’t one of the most expensive pieces of software on the market and still no changes to his in four years is beyond me. I already have tools to separate tracks stems but I was saying this because I think it would suit the company to go this direction. Having said that, I agree that the whole way of using melodyne should be changed.
Hi Sensho, thank you very much for guitar dedicated series! Just what the doctor ordered. Wanted tp ask if you could cover one huge functionaloity of Melodyne - Detecting Harmonies or whatever is being played and transfering that accurately into sheet music (midi) that can be played at various speads and viewedas sheet music. Melodyne is accurate beyond belief why not use that to further our learning? Thanks so much again, Al.
I made a complete video a few years ago about using Melodyne to remove fret noise. The video had twenty thousand plays. However, I showed that when using complex chords, sometimes the blobs corresponding to the string noise did not show up. In these cases you have to use the tools available to increase the detection sensitivity so that they become visible. If you don't do this, you cannot edit the string noise.
That’s right. The more complex your material is, the more you need to help Melodyne understand your material. Thankfully, Melodyne has the ‘Note Assignment Mode’ for this very reason. 🙂 Where can we see your video?
@@celemony I closed my RUclips page down last year. I made two versions of the video, one in English and one in French. If you are interested I can have a look to see if I have kept archived copies.
The hammer-on fix at the beginning wasn't satisfying to me. Perhaps it's because Sensho pasted the well-executed hammer-on in the middle of the harmonic content related to the poorly executed hammer-on. When he plays back the "fixed" version it almost sounds out of phase. Wouldn't it have been better to just copy over all of the harmonic content of the first hammer-on rather than just the most strongly represented notes?
Whatever works best on your material. Sensho just shows the technique and overall concept, but of course you can adapt it to your music as you see fit. Thanks for your comment!
Hey Celemony, I hope you develop a real-time autotune plugin that supports all scales such as Melodyne and inserting Scala files for exotic TETs, it will be revolutionary. 🙏
We already replied to your comment on X. While Melodyne isn’t a real-time plug-in, it does indeed already support various scales and tunings, including exotic and microtonal ones. 🙂
@@celemony 1:33, 3:20, 3:26, 3:33, 3:36, i.e. wherever one harmonic has been manipulated. you can hear it most at 1:33 when a string sound that doesn't belong there is replaced.
Great vid! Just one thing.... i think you mean 'home in' and not 'hone in'. they're two different things. The de-emphasis trick is excellent! cheers for that one mate.
Tip--if you have an out of tune string or note on a held chord, esp if you are double tracking, isolate the note, then chop it up into 5-6 sections. The warbly bits will pop up higher and allow you to tune just them using the macro slider. Works quicker and better for me than tuning the entire note, or using the tools to tweak. I fought one for an hour until I discovered this. Now it is perfect. And easy.
The emphasis and dynamics slider tips are surprisingly effective!
Aren’t they? 😉
I've used most of these tips to great effect, but I've never touched those envelope/sliders because I honestly didn't know what they were for. Now, I can't wait to experiment with them!
Happy we could inspire you to keep experimenting. 🙂
Thanks for the video - I had never used those sliders that you describe near the end. And also the cut and paste method is really smooth compared to how I have been doing it.
Always great to see that people find our videos useful. Thanks for your comment!
Just by coincidence I was just trying to find a way to remove fret squeaks to avoid re-tracking a guitar part so thank you, thank you!
You’re very welcome. Thanks for watching!
..and I also want to thank Jörg from Melodyne support for answering my question so quickly. It worked out perfectly, better than I could have hoped for! Actually made my guitar playing sound good (I'm really a bass player! 🙂)@@celemony
Melodyne is a fantastic tool.
Thank you very much! 🙂
Every time I see one of these videos I'm happy I bought the full version of Melodyne. From Pro Tools integration to tips like these, it just keeps on giving.
Thanks, glad our videos could help.
Thanks for the very helpful video 👍😊
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Great tips to get the most out of an amazing tool! I use Melodyne every day.
Wonderful! Enjoy your Melodyne! 🙂
This is freakin' amazing!!
He’s basically doing everything a good studio guitarist should already be able to do. I understand using it as a creative tool, but not to replace practice and study.
Not all of us are good studio guitarists. I know I'm not!
@@johnplainsong9769 That’s not a good reason for me to use Melodyne like that. Composing, playing and recording is an experience that teaches you a lot and makes you a better musician, without having to find these tricks.
If you can play guitar and re-record it the way you like, that’s of course preferable. However, every audio engineer / mixer knows the scenario where you’re given some pre-recorded tracks to mix and you have to deal with what you’ve got. So if there’s a tool like Melodyne to fix any issues, why not use it? Plus, as you said Melodyne is also a creative tool which might inspire some unusual ideas that you wouldn’t have thought of as a guitarist. 🙂 Anyway, thanks for your comment!
No one is suggesting that Melodyne be used as a way to avoid practice. The vast majority of musicians cannot always sing or play perfectly. I have enormous respect for good studio musicians, but even they are on a musical journey, constantly improving. Melodyne is a fantastic production tool for musicians who are not yet perfect. Which I dare say is all of us.
Excellent!
Question for the developers of Melodyne. It's been nearly 4 years since the last upgrade which I think was in 2020. It would be nice if you can update the community on whether there will be one or not. Do you have plans to make changes to it and add more features that many others developers have now surpassed. I won't name them but I really feel you have fallen behind when you was leading the race before. So many things you could be introducing that have not happened. With AI being at the forefront of developers minds have you not at least thought of introducing AI replacement vocals or stem separation ?
Agreed ❤
I've been wondering the same thing! Perhaps they are simply allowing their competitors to catch up. I suspect that we are not far from the introduction of AI into this arena, with the software automatically telling you what is wrong with your song and then proceeding to try to fix it.
@@PelicanMultimedia The silence from melodyne is deafening. I really think it’s poor of them to allow competitors to catch up with them. Many competitors are way past them after a four year absence which I find astonishing. I request that somebody responds to these questions from Celemony. surely you have already created AI vocals and track separations. Please respond.
Just in case Celemony are reading these comments (although I doubt it) I feel I should just add that I have no interest in AI replacement or stem separation. I'm not saying your shouldn't ask for it if that's what's bugging you but I personally would just prefer for Melodyne to be more usable. I've been using it for about 4 years now and I still find it hugely un intuitive (as I've said many times before) and this video demonstrates that. How many people know that if you cut and paste it will replace any notes you have selected when pasting? If you don't have notes selected then it just duplicates the notes on top. I didn't realise that for a long time. And how many people know about those sliders and how it affects the sound? Not me for one. And I still don't know whether it affects everything in the track or just the event you have selected.
But most of all I wish there was a way to directly control the pitch line rather than moving blobs around to try and get what you want. Yes, a lot of the time that works fine but sometimes you can find yourself splitting blobs, changing the pitch transition curve almost indefinitely trying to get the pitch curve to do what you want.
That's what I'd like for any update - making the existing functionality (which is huge) more accessible.
@@bigstewdio you are actually 100% correct I’ve always found it very poor and its whole design without video tutorials it would be very difficult to use total agreement of what you said. In four years I should’ve improved this drastically, but I haven’t one of the most expensive pieces of software on the market and still no changes to his in four years is beyond me. I already have tools to separate tracks stems but I was saying this because I think it would suit the company to go this direction. Having said that, I agree that the whole way of using melodyne should be changed.
am i the only one that hears the artifacts of all these examples ?
Hi Sensho, thank you very much for guitar dedicated series! Just what the doctor ordered. Wanted tp ask if you could cover one huge functionaloity of Melodyne - Detecting Harmonies or whatever is being played and transfering that accurately into sheet music (midi) that can be played at various speads and viewedas sheet music. Melodyne is accurate beyond belief why not use that to further our learning? Thanks so much again, Al.
Great suggestion, thanks a lot!
I made a complete video a few years ago about using Melodyne to remove fret noise. The video had twenty thousand plays. However, I showed that when using complex chords, sometimes the blobs corresponding to the string noise did not show up. In these cases you have to use the tools available to increase the detection sensitivity so that they become visible. If you don't do this, you cannot edit the string noise.
That’s right. The more complex your material is, the more you need to help Melodyne understand your material. Thankfully, Melodyne has the ‘Note Assignment Mode’ for this very reason. 🙂 Where can we see your video?
@@celemony I closed my RUclips page down last year. I made two versions of the video, one in English and one in French. If you are interested I can have a look to see if I have kept archived copies.
@@StephenWilliamROWEAuteurCompos I am very interested. If you could make the video available in English I would be very grateful.
So is Polyphonic Decay the algorithm that is being used in this video on the guitar chords?
Very likely, yes. 🙂
The hammer-on fix at the beginning wasn't satisfying to me. Perhaps it's because Sensho pasted the well-executed hammer-on in the middle of the harmonic content related to the poorly executed hammer-on. When he plays back the "fixed" version it almost sounds out of phase.
Wouldn't it have been better to just copy over all of the harmonic content of the first hammer-on rather than just the most strongly represented notes?
Whatever works best on your material. Sensho just shows the technique and overall concept, but of course you can adapt it to your music as you see fit. Thanks for your comment!
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Apoarently my guitar squeak is linked to a separate blob note... what should i do?
Could you please contact our support team? See here: www.celemony.com/support
Hey Celemony, I hope you develop a real-time autotune plugin that supports all scales such as Melodyne and inserting Scala files for exotic TETs, it will be revolutionary. 🙏
We already replied to your comment on X. While Melodyne isn’t a real-time plug-in, it does indeed already support various scales and tunings, including exotic and microtonal ones. 🙂
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I like Melodynem but in this case it is worse than before the modification. I feel the phase problem that has been created.
Sensho shows many different tasks in this video. Where exactly do you hear a phase problem?
@@celemony 1:33, 3:20, 3:26, 3:33, 3:36, i.e. wherever one harmonic has been manipulated. you can hear it most at 1:33 when a string sound that doesn't belong there is replaced.
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Great vid!
Just one thing.... i think you mean 'home in' and not 'hone in'. they're two different things.
The de-emphasis trick is excellent! cheers for that one mate.
I learned something new today! I've been misusing "hone in" all my life! Thx