Great video, you explained the set up great. I'm trying a wet/dry/wet using 1 amp and a 2x12 for the dry and a stereo head with 2 4x12 using a aby switch. I'm using a dod g7 rack for the detune, delay, reverb. Lots of experiments lol.
Hey Sean!............Thank you for the very helpful video!!!!....................I've been trying to figure this whole wet/dry thing out for a while now!............... Your video is awesome, and very easy to understand!............ Also, Thanks for taking the time to shed some wisdom, and breaking everything down simply for all of us who aren't so technically inclined, especially when you don't have to! .......................... I learned a lot!................... Forget the selfish/no real talent haters of the world!!!!!............ May you win the lottery, Sir!.......And may karma take a big poo on anyone who has anything negative to say! One last thing!.......... I thought your playing was top notch!;)
+Jerrad Dillard Hi Jerrad- sorry it took so long to reply! Mate you're very welcome - I hope it helps! When I started playing guitar people wouldn't even show you how to play a riff it was so competitive! I think that's wrong- if you're happy with your playing then why compete? Apparently because people make money by knowing these things it's kept quiet- but for us regular little folks who can't afford to pay a techie we miss out!?! Again- hope the info helps and let me know if you have any questions- still working on the lottery though- we'll go halves if I win ;)
true but you could do this a little more simply. Line-out box rather than attenuator, few pedals rather than rack. Im running a marshall with a line-out box, to 3 pedals + then to the wet amp, a Fender princeton. this 2nd amp can be small as the fx dont need to be as loud as the main signal, normally.
Sounds fantastic! Still a big investment to make this happen...but it does sound amazing and definitely the missing element of some of the Van Halen tones I'd like to be able to engage at will. Nice demo and it is food for thought. Thanks!
Hi- it can be done cheaper- I'm only using one stereo quad now and because of less 'spread' using two the sound has become tighter anyway. You can do this with any amp not only 6505 if you're happy with the sound of it. With a bit of research you can find most of the gear to do it on the second hand market too. Hpe this helps? Cheers!
sean1121970 I'll keep researching...I really spent a lot on guitar stuff over the last five years and my wife is livid. This might have to wait quite a while. The sound is exquisite though and I'll have to come to terms with this tyoe of set up eventually...
This is VERY interesting! Couple questions: First, Why? What is the benefit of doing it this way? How could I go about doing something similar? I have had a stereo rig for some time now, and the way I get the "spread" is go into my ADA MP-1 first (which I notice you have also, btw), then from both outputs into various stereo effects processors, then thru a Mesa 50/50, then to a stereo Mesa 4x12 cab. (I used to have 2 separate Marshall cabs, but had to sell them.) I have some extra flexibility to go even further, or do it differently, since I have 2 other 1x12 iso cabs, and a 3 channel Mesa Dual Rectifier. I'd love to try some other combinations, especially figuring out how to get the most use out of my 2 delay units: One is a Boss CE-5, which has 1 input and 2 outputs, and a Lexicon Alex DEP, which has stereo ins and outs. So I imagine I could do lots of different things, in several ways, without resorting to buying a TC 2290!! (My dream delay unit right now.) Then I figure once I get that truly amazing and versatile sound, I'd probably invest in some different cabinets, instead of the iso cabs. But they would at least allow me to experiment. I really appreciate any suggestions, but especially your reasoning behind why you set things up this way. Thanks!!
Hey there. Followed you up until the power amp part. You connected one line from the attenuator in the input of the effects unit. Now the effects unit needs power. Do I connect it directly to the power amp, and if so, I am not sure what I/O's I need to use to set this up. I have a Peavey Classic 50/50 and there are a bunch of input/output's to choose from. Also, I assume the line out from the effects unit goes to the second cab? Thanks in advance for your assistance
Hi, I am not certain if I need the Behringer attenunator or would a small mixer do the same job? Also, aren't there two line outs from the power amp? You mention that you connect the power amp to the other cab. If you only connect 1 cable from the amp, won't you miss the stereo effect of the effects unit? Seems like you won't be able to get a ping pong echo, and you will also miss out on other true stereo effects. Hopefully you can clear up some of these concerns. I've been waiting a very long time to hook up a system where I can get superb stereo sound.
Mark Wilczynski Hi Mark- mate, absolutely NOT! The attenuator allows one signal (from the speaker output) to be taken from the speakers to a line out to your effects and then to your POWER AMP- to your speakers- if you plug a speaker out to a mixer board you will blow something out! The speaker out section of the amp has two outputs but when running them into an attenuator half the signal is sent to the speaker box- the other half is reduced to line level which then goes into your fx unit- that in turn goes into another power amp and into another cad- this is your stero sound- realistically you need to run a stereo power amp to two cabs for "stereo" sound- hope this helps- any questions just ask mate :)!
Great video! I just purchased a Behringer Ultra G Di Box like yours. The line from head to speaker works great, but i cannot utilize the xlr out like you are doing in vid. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
this was going to be my question. coming out of the ultra-g is an xlr type connection. Are you using an xlr to 1/4 inch cable to connect to your effects from the ultra-g?
sounds rad dude! i got a similar wet dry wet rig but iam going from my attenuator witch is giving me an output witch is running at line level. my idea is to go from that line level into my delay reverb n stuff like that, but i use stompboxes. my concern is will the line level be harmfull to my pedals, and if so how can i fix it? a transformer? thanks in advance!
Can you go from your effects processer into a combo type amp like a Blues Jr. Thats what I have . Im trying to do this set up you have.Also if you have a noise reduction pedal , would you place that in between the dry amp and the dry speaker?
Hi Daniel- I put the noise reduction in the fx loop of the amp- this way you cut the noise at the earliest stage. Yes- you can run the fx processer into your amp and use it to amplify the 'wet' signal. You can use any amp to amp up the wet side but you have to remember that the amp itself will change the sound to a certain degree- so you'd need to set your controls for a 'flat' eq. Then again you can tinker with the eq and get different/ better sounds- it's up to your ear! Hope this helps :)
SRJT_MDJ yea dude. Many ways. Maybe it's his settings but i just don't see a way these tones are relevant in today's time except a tribute band. Just learn the uses of all major different types of guitar amplified related gear, and you'll easily figure out what road you want to take. Don't go off what some one else is doing unless you are after their exact tone. Most only do it cuz they have the gear to and saw someone doing it. We tend to get bored and distracted easily and building your rig is part of the fun. Tone and preference is sunpbjective to the listener. And Many time bands with weird sounds and band names or styles can make all that work for them if they have style. Ask your self what tone your looking for and what's the quickest most logical way to get there based off what you have already without cutting corners. And look it up.
Eddie uses a line out box with old school stereo Poweramp as well. Someone with unlimited $$ could use 3 5150 amps (they are not stereo so u would need 1 for left, 1 for center, and one for right speakers)...not sure why EVH doesn't. I guess it is just simpler to manage really and having all those heads really gives no added benefit I am aware of. For us mere mortals, it's a no brainier to use 1 head.
cps7553- Ha ha- that would be a compliment BEFORE his racist rants! I figure we're all just people -so I'm just speaking like an average aussie- cheers cps7553!
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Great video, you explained the set up great.
I'm trying a wet/dry/wet using 1 amp and a 2x12 for the dry and a stereo head with 2 4x12 using a aby switch.
I'm using a dod g7 rack for the detune, delay, reverb. Lots of experiments lol.
Hey Sean!............Thank you for the very helpful video!!!!....................I've been trying to figure this whole wet/dry thing out for a while now!............... Your video is awesome, and very easy to understand!............ Also, Thanks for taking the time to shed some wisdom, and breaking everything down simply for all of us who aren't so technically inclined, especially when you don't have to! .......................... I learned a lot!................... Forget the selfish/no real talent haters of the world!!!!!............ May you win the lottery, Sir!.......And may karma take a big poo on anyone who has anything negative to say!
One last thing!.......... I thought your playing was top notch!;)
+Jerrad Dillard Hi Jerrad- sorry it took so long to reply! Mate you're very welcome - I hope it helps! When I started playing guitar people wouldn't even show you how to play a riff it was so competitive! I think that's wrong- if you're happy with your playing then why compete? Apparently because people make money by knowing these things it's kept quiet- but for us regular little folks who can't afford to pay a techie we miss out!?! Again- hope the info helps and let me know if you have any questions- still working on the lottery though- we'll go halves if I win ;)
Yeah...some people just don´t understand what it takes to get a professional guitar tone...thanks for the video
true but you could do this a little more simply. Line-out box rather than attenuator, few pedals rather than rack. Im running a marshall with a line-out box, to 3 pedals + then to the wet amp, a Fender princeton. this 2nd amp can be small as the fx dont need to be as loud as the main signal, normally.
Awesome bud and the playins good to...thanx for posting
Sounds fantastic! Still a big investment to make this happen...but it does sound amazing and definitely the missing element of some of the Van Halen tones I'd like to be able to engage at will. Nice demo and it is food for thought. Thanks!
Hi- it can be done cheaper- I'm only using one stereo quad now and because of less 'spread' using two the sound has become tighter anyway. You can do this with any amp not only 6505 if you're happy with the sound of it. With a bit of research you can find most of the gear to do it on the second hand market too. Hpe this helps? Cheers!
sean1121970 I'll keep researching...I really spent a lot on guitar stuff over the last five years and my wife is livid. This might have to wait quite a while. The sound is exquisite though and I'll have to come to terms with this tyoe of set up eventually...
Great video mate, sounds awesome.
This is VERY interesting! Couple questions: First, Why? What is the benefit of doing it this way? How could I go about doing something similar? I have had a stereo rig for some time now, and the way I get the "spread" is go into my ADA MP-1 first (which I notice you have also, btw), then from both outputs into various stereo effects processors, then thru a Mesa 50/50, then to a stereo Mesa 4x12 cab. (I used to have 2 separate Marshall cabs, but had to sell them.)
I have some extra flexibility to go even further, or do it differently, since I have 2 other 1x12 iso cabs, and a 3 channel Mesa Dual Rectifier. I'd love to try some other combinations, especially figuring out how to get the most use out of my 2 delay units: One is a Boss CE-5, which has 1 input and 2 outputs, and a Lexicon Alex DEP, which has stereo ins and outs.
So I imagine I could do lots of different things, in several ways, without resorting to buying a TC 2290!! (My dream delay unit right now.) Then I figure once I get that truly amazing and versatile sound, I'd probably invest in some different cabinets, instead of the iso cabs. But they would at least allow me to experiment.
I really appreciate any suggestions, but especially your reasoning behind why you set things up this way. Thanks!!
Hey there. Followed you up until the power amp part. You connected one line from the attenuator in the input of the effects unit. Now the effects unit needs power. Do I connect it directly to the power amp, and if so, I am not sure what I/O's I need to use to set this up. I have a Peavey Classic 50/50 and there are a bunch of input/output's to choose from. Also, I assume the line out from the effects unit goes to the second cab? Thanks in advance for your assistance
Thanks for 100 hits guys- if you have any questions or comments I'm happy to try and help and answer-
Hi Bru, did you depress both pad buttons on the DI100 red box when sending into the digitech 2120?
Great vid! Where did you get the road case from?
Hey mate just a question instead of using a effects rack could you use a line 6 helix pedal instead? And use the return jack?
Sean, can this same set up be used for a wet dry wet setup. Please help, I'm very new to this. I am dying for a set up like this.
Hi, I am not certain if I need the Behringer attenunator or would a small mixer do the same job? Also, aren't there two line outs from the power amp? You mention that you connect the power amp to the other cab. If you only connect 1 cable from the amp, won't you miss the stereo effect of the effects unit? Seems like you won't be able to get a ping pong echo, and you will also miss out on other true stereo effects.
Hopefully you can clear up some of these concerns. I've been waiting a very long time
to hook up a system where I can get superb stereo sound.
Mark Wilczynski Hi Mark- mate, absolutely NOT! The attenuator allows one signal (from the speaker output) to be taken from the speakers to a line out to your effects and then to your POWER AMP- to your speakers- if you plug a speaker out to a mixer board you will blow something out! The speaker out section of the amp has two outputs but when running them into an attenuator half the signal is sent to the speaker box- the other half is reduced to line level which then goes into your fx unit- that in turn goes into another power amp and into another cad- this is your stero sound- realistically you need to run a stereo power amp to two cabs for "stereo" sound- hope this helps- any questions just ask mate :)!
Great video! I just purchased a Behringer Ultra G Di Box like yours. The line from head to speaker works great, but i cannot utilize the xlr out like you are doing in vid. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
Hi Brent- not sure what you mean? You can buy an xlr to canon lead if you're having trouble connecting. Is that the problem?
this was going to be my question. coming out of the ultra-g is an xlr type connection. Are you using an xlr to 1/4 inch cable to connect to your effects from the ultra-g?
sounds rad dude! i got a similar wet dry wet rig but iam going from my attenuator witch is giving me an output witch is running at line level. my idea is to go from that line level into my delay reverb n stuff like that, but i use stompboxes. my concern is will the line level be harmfull to my pedals, and if so how can i fix it? a transformer? thanks in advance!
Quick question could i plug an active guitar straight into the digitech fx loop as a pedal?
Can you go from your effects processer into a combo type amp like a Blues Jr. Thats what I have . Im trying to do this set up you have.Also if you have a noise reduction pedal , would you place that in between the dry amp and the dry speaker?
Hi Daniel- I put the noise reduction in the fx loop of the amp- this way you cut the noise at the earliest stage. Yes- you can run the fx processer into your amp and use it to amplify the 'wet' signal. You can use any amp to amp up the wet side but you have to remember that the amp itself will change the sound to a certain degree- so you'd need to set your controls for a 'flat' eq. Then again you can tinker with the eq and get different/ better sounds- it's up to your ear! Hope this helps :)
Don't you just love the BBE ! :-)
Nice job, very informative. Is using an attenuator the easiest way to go to split your sound. Also, are you using any rack effects?
the easiest is a line out box, or some amps have 'send '+ return' jacks for fx in back.
can i do this without the rack system?
SRJT_MDJ yea dude. Many ways. Maybe it's his settings but i just don't see a way these tones are relevant in today's time except a tribute band. Just learn the uses of all major different types of guitar amplified related gear, and you'll easily figure out what road you want to take. Don't go off what some one else is doing unless you are after their exact tone. Most only do it cuz they have the gear to and saw someone doing it. We tend to get bored and distracted easily and building your rig is part of the fun. Tone and preference is sunpbjective to the listener. And Many time bands with weird sounds and band names or styles can make all that work for them if they have style. Ask your self what tone your looking for and what's the quickest most logical way to get there based off what you have already without cutting corners. And look it up.
Is it safe to use the DI like that? Is the head still seeing the cab load or should it be a load box that can match the impedance?
That's exactly what it's built for
I know this is an old video but I have a question. Does the amp still see the correct ohm load when coming from the speaker outs into the di box?
yes
Well... I’d like to hear power out saturation out of a 6505 actually!!! 🤭
Why not just buy an additional 5150 head instead of a load box and a standalone power amp?
Eddie uses a line out box with old school stereo Poweramp as well. Someone with unlimited $$ could use 3 5150 amps (they are not stereo so u would need 1 for left, 1 for center, and one for right speakers)...not sure why EVH doesn't. I guess it is just simpler to manage really and having all those heads really gives no added benefit I am aware of. For us mere mortals, it's a no brainier to use 1 head.
I got lost about 1 minute in.
cps7553- Ha ha- that would be a compliment BEFORE his racist rants! I figure we're all just people -so I'm just speaking like an average aussie- cheers cps7553!
cool!
fuuuuck I need money lol
Could use a guitar tech too :p
is this Mel Gibson speaking? lol
Fuck, this is rediculous. Get an old amp, plug it in, crank it up and use volume and tone knobs. Might as well be flying a space shuttle
With an actual good quality amp and speakers this could sound great. Sounds like shyte now though, bogan.