@@danielhurst8863 both are used in foods. Apparently, what was bought on Amazon, was in a dose high enough to kill. Supposedly, the amount in our food is "safe".....enough.
Very sad. The birthday cake gift is a nice thing to do. In this type of tragedy families always look to blame someone, but I don’t agree with suing Amazon for selling to ‘at risk’ persons because it would be impossible to screen for that, but perhaps if the goal is to keep them from selling this to anyone, then maybe that is a good thing. People who are suicidal have many options for ending their own lives, but having any lethal product readily available (including guns) makes it too easy to choose a permanent outcome for a temporary problem.
You might be surprised that there are many "lethal products" in everyday use. Your vitamins can kill you if you misuse them. Your eye drops, your antacids, fertilizers, herbicides, rubbing alcohol, energy drinks... The list goes on and on. Misusing a industrial product and meat curative to end your life is the problem not the product. It's no different than downing a bottle of OTC diphenhydramine allergy medication. Guess we should ban Benadryl too.
No. It shouldn’t be banned from being sold to anyone. It’s absolutely fine and normal to buy sodium nitrite and use it to make your own sausages at home. We’ve purchased that exact stuff for decades to make venison pepperoni, my grandpa’s specialty. If Amazon can’t sell things that are dangerous to ingest, they may as well go out of business. If their kids ate Tide Pods, they would’ve died also. Are we going to ban laundry detergent too? How about nail polish remover? I guess no one can buy any chemical because some people will try to kill themselves with it.
I think the parents are looking at this all wrong. If She was suicidal and let her family know then she should have been in a hospital or a program. Not sure how Amazon would have known that. Maybe warnings and “not for sale under 21” disclaimers would be appropriate and that is something to fight for.
I moved to Tucson in 2001 and I was going into my junior year of high school. I come from upstate NY and I noticed huge differences. The kids would be doing drugs all day long (I believe that the block scheduling of 100 minute classes were part of the problem, too hard to focus for that long)…. The kids were drinking, drugging and they came from well off families. I went to CDO , so that was the north side of Tucson and it was all being built out really fast. There were tons of house parties… it was a school of 4000 students! The classes were too big, teachers underpaid , students were let off the campus for lunch, and it was just a recipe for disaster. Sorry this was a rambling comment, I just woke up. I’m just saying east coast we were smoking pot and drinking on the weekends some, Tucson was like a rave every weekend with kids making very bad choices.
You are so right when you describe the ingredients of the recipe for disaster. Creating a successful learning environment for our kids requires smaller classrooms, better pay for teachers, and less “unstructured” time for students. I frequently substitute in one of the most respected school districts in Southern California, and I see all of the ingredients you listed leading to some disastrous results. This is not an optimistic time for people of any age in our country, and our kids need extra help coping with the stress and uncertainty of the future. I really feel for them, and it saddens me especially that there are so many opportunities for them to make the wrong choices, particularly under pressure from their peers.
You still have each other I don’t think your daughter would want you to not enjoy your life because she’s gone but everyone grieves in their own way ‼️ Sorry for your loss 😢 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
my son, class of 2022 had a hard time during the lockdown and school time. we had gotten him into therapy. we were lucky. we got him on medication. i think that is the only thing that helped him. he did graduate. I'm so sorry for your loss. What a nice thing to buy a cake in her honor.
Amazon's algorithm should not suggest companion suicide-related products, like wtf. On another note, DO NOT let your children order things off the Internet without your approval. I'm not blaming the parents here, because I have no idea what set of circumstances led to their daughter being able to order stuff like this without her parents' knowledge in this particular case. But I never would have even dreamed of ordering things off the Internet as a kid without having to ask my parents for permission and depending on them to pay for it. The Internet is just as dangerous as the outside physical world for children. Please, don't let very young children use the Internet unsupervised, and make sure you know where your teens are, what they're doing, how they're doing- and don't give them stuff like credit cards or huge sums of money to use by themselves. It's not worth the risks.
So had the account on Amazon? How did the teen get the money to order anything from anyone? At the end of the day the responsibility lays with the parents to know what their own kids are doing, if their depressed etc. I don't see how this Amazon's responsibility.
All these comments are completely heartless. These parents list their child to SUICIDE which could have been prevented by Amazon restricting the sales to businesses only with valid licenses. I pray none of you making these disgusting comments go through this 😢
So can I sue Amazon if my kid orders isopropyl alcohol and dies from ingesting it? Where does if end?
It doesn't seem that the parents sought therapy for their daughter. 😥
Sounds like the shitty mom refused to believe her child was struggling with mental health issues.
Sodium nitrate - isn't that the stuff that the FDA approves of that is put into our food like hot dogs, etc??
They are talking about Sodium Nitrite, the cousin of Sodium Nitrate. Both are used as a preservative.
@@danielhurst8863 both are used in foods.
Apparently, what was bought on Amazon, was in a dose high enough to kill.
Supposedly, the amount in our food is "safe".....enough.
this is like suing the company who made the sidewalk when someone jumps of a building.....ridiculous litigation
Very sad. The birthday cake gift is a nice thing to do. In this type of tragedy families always look to blame someone, but I don’t agree with suing Amazon for selling to ‘at risk’ persons because it would be impossible to screen for that, but perhaps if the goal is to keep them from selling this to anyone, then maybe that is a good thing. People who are suicidal have many options for ending their own lives, but having any lethal product readily available (including guns) makes it too easy to choose a permanent outcome for a temporary problem.
You might be surprised that there are many "lethal products" in everyday use. Your vitamins can kill you if you misuse them. Your eye drops, your antacids, fertilizers, herbicides, rubbing alcohol, energy drinks... The list goes on and on. Misusing a industrial product and meat curative to end your life is the problem not the product. It's no different than downing a bottle of OTC diphenhydramine allergy medication. Guess we should ban Benadryl too.
No. It shouldn’t be banned from being sold to anyone. It’s absolutely fine and normal to buy sodium nitrite and use it to make your own sausages at home. We’ve purchased that exact stuff for decades to make venison pepperoni, my grandpa’s specialty. If Amazon can’t sell things that are dangerous to ingest, they may as well go out of business. If their kids ate Tide Pods, they would’ve died also. Are we going to ban laundry detergent too? How about nail polish remover? I guess no one can buy any chemical because some people will try to kill themselves with it.
I think the parents are looking at this all wrong. If She was suicidal and let her family know then she should have been in a hospital or a program. Not sure how Amazon would have known that. Maybe warnings and “not for sale under 21” disclaimers would be appropriate and that is something to fight for.
How is it amazons fault for how the buyer uses the product?
Condolences.
I moved to Tucson in 2001 and I was going into my junior year of high school. I come from upstate NY and I noticed huge differences. The kids would be doing drugs all day long (I believe that the block scheduling of 100 minute classes were part of the problem, too hard to focus for that long)…. The kids were drinking, drugging and they came from well off families. I went to CDO , so that was the north side of Tucson and it was all being built out really fast. There were tons of house parties… it was a school of 4000 students! The classes were too big, teachers underpaid , students were let off the campus for lunch, and it was just a recipe for disaster. Sorry this was a rambling comment, I just woke up. I’m just saying east coast we were smoking pot and drinking on the weekends some, Tucson was like a rave every weekend with kids making very bad choices.
My daughter was born and raised in Phoenix, she went to Bridgeport university and Adelphi university on the east coast. Trading places 🙂
That’s very interesting. Most older adults wouldn’t know this. Thanks for sharing.
You are so right when you describe the ingredients of the recipe for disaster. Creating a successful learning environment for our kids requires smaller classrooms, better pay for teachers, and less “unstructured” time for students. I frequently substitute in one of the most respected school districts in Southern California, and I see all of the ingredients you listed leading to some disastrous results. This is not an optimistic time for people of any age in our country, and our kids need extra help coping with the stress and uncertainty of the future. I really feel for them, and it saddens me especially that there are so many opportunities for them to make the wrong choices, particularly under pressure from their peers.
Same with out in California
Our adversaries are directly involved in these trends and social media is all in on devastating our Country in every way possible.
Blaming everyone except the people responsible for the safety and wellbeing of the child….the parents.
@@ShanaGarrett Are you a paid Amazon troll?
@@ShanaGarrett the parents are also responsible as well.
@@Anon-greyman no they aren't
sending strength and healing to these parents. they did their best! she knew you loved her!
You still have each other I don’t think your daughter would want you to not enjoy your life because she’s gone but everyone grieves in their own way ‼️ Sorry for your loss 😢 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
my son, class of 2022 had a hard time during the lockdown and school time. we had gotten him into therapy. we were lucky. we got him on medication. i think that is the only thing that helped him. he did graduate. I'm so sorry for your loss. What a nice thing to buy a cake in her honor.
You can't stop someone. Make society better. Suing Amazon won't do anything. Can't hold everyone's hand all the time forever.
So sorry for your loss :(
How is your f up kid Amazon’s fault
Poor girl
Amazon's algorithm should not suggest companion suicide-related products, like wtf.
On another note, DO NOT let your children order things off the Internet without your approval. I'm not blaming the parents here, because I have no idea what set of circumstances led to their daughter being able to order stuff like this without her parents' knowledge in this particular case. But I never would have even dreamed of ordering things off the Internet as a kid without having to ask my parents for permission and depending on them to pay for it. The Internet is just as dangerous as the outside physical world for children. Please, don't let very young children use the Internet unsupervised, and make sure you know where your teens are, what they're doing, how they're doing- and don't give them stuff like credit cards or huge sums of money to use by themselves. It's not worth the risks.
how awful!
We are brought here against our wills, we should be able to take ourselves out.
Stop with the suing already. She would have found something else if not this.
Eternal rest, grant unto her, Lord. May perpetual light please shine upon her🙏🏼
So had the account on Amazon? How did the teen get the money to order anything from anyone? At the end of the day the responsibility lays with the parents to know what their own kids are doing, if their depressed etc. I don't see how this Amazon's responsibility.
She was a beautiful woman.
oh no!!! suicide KIT?! 🤬🤬🤬
Maybe the parents should have done better job getting their kid help. Not Amazon’s fault.
They did seem to take no action. And now they are all bluster bc they don't want to accept any personal responsibility
HIPA laws.
Suicide....... TREND?
The 👿 does not sleep. "He prowles like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour". 🥺
U can also die from drinking too much water. This lawsuit is preposterous
This is MONSTROUS 😭😭😭
All these comments are completely heartless. These parents list their child to SUICIDE which could have been prevented by Amazon restricting the sales to businesses only with valid licenses. I pray none of you making these disgusting comments go through this 😢
Usually they're made by people without kids.
Did you check for autism ?
their algorithms SUGGESTED the ideas which makes them 100% LIABLE for murder aiding abating absolutely guilty.