The suspension in January forced trains to sound their horns for a minimum of 15 seconds every time they approached intersections in downtown San Diego.
Lives by rail, complains about train noise. Lives by airport, complains about aircraft noise. Lives by shooting range, complains about gunfire. Lives by schools, complains about kids screaming and traffic. Lives by fire station, complains about emergency vehicles. 😐
Add "live by freeway, complain about engine braking from semis slowing for the exit ramps". Or "Live in Suburbs... complain if neighbors work hours are different than yours because the car coming and going makes noise or the light from their house keeps up the neighborhood..."
You know what started the whole quiet zone crap? Cause San Diego allowed all those condos and apartments to be built literally next to the tracks, and the new tenants started whining... So... Same with the dumbasses who bought homes right next to Miramar, then wanted the Marines to move. Entitled dipshits, one and all... And now we're finding out the city didn't do what they were obligated to do (of course) so now this is the result. Personally, I find it hilarious.
Imagine misappropriated tax dollars not going where they need to be going (cough cough, into their own pockets). So sad that it takes thousands of people complaining about the city not doing their job for actual progress to be made
@@user-qp5uz1ul8z Imagine moving to near these tracks because of the quiet zone and transport is convenient, then because some asshole in the city council didn't want to do their federally-mandated job to maintain the quiet zone suddenly you're right next to train horns designed to be heard from miles away, that have to blow for at least five seconds for each of more than a dozen level crossings. I'd be pissed and I'm a railwayman myself.
Watch the whole video. The quiet zone is again in effect. This video is to bring attention to the negligence by the city for letting it expire, especially over what was just 12 days of labor to remedy it.
Yup. The whole "no horn" bullshit was passed when I still lived there, and I thought it was ridiculous. Don't want to hear horns or trains? Don't buy a place literally next to the tracks. Just like the dipshits moving next to Miramar air base, and demanding the Marines move.
@@garcjr Same here, but then again I have family from NYC. My grandparents lived in Flushing, Queens on Roosevelt Avenue. The street was always busy with traffic, the end of track for the IRT 7 Subway line was underground, almost adjacent to the basement, the Northern Branch of the Long Island Railroad ran in a trench a block and a half away, and to top it off, we lived almost right underneath the flight path of La Guardia, In the summer I slept in a screened off porch on the second story of Victorian era duplex, so there was no door to keep noise out, and I never had any problem sleeping with it. The normal sounds of commerce and industry do not bother me. What does bother me are the noises of breaking glass, people arguing/fighting, people driving their cars/motorcycles like idiot to get attention, and garbage rap music played through shredded speakers in the gas station parking lot at all. Trains don't bother me one bit.
Hold up. You're telling me YOU moved next to hot tracks that operate trains all day and you're complaining about the noise? These galaxy brains are the same ones who move under the flight path next to an airport and complaint about the noise too.
The rail was there long b4 the homes started surrounding the tracks. Just like the idiots that moved into homes near the airport complaining about aircraft noise. If you don't like the noise...move.
No, the tracks were laid to bring things into the city. The city already existed. Which means the houses already existed. (Not that more houses weren't added after the tracks, but that's irrelevant.) They laid the tracks through the city......
The Spanish first setup shop in 1769, well before the American Revolution on the East Coast and well before any raildroad tracks were laid on America soil. In fact, San Diego is the oldest city in California.
American news is so dumb and outdated, and tbh we don’t even need it anymore. There’s so much internet everywhere you can just get actual information straight from the source. Time to bankrupt the legacy media.
It’s a f*ucking railroad and it’s been there since 1887?! They make noise. I lived there before the “quiet zone” days right on the tracks. Yes the occasional train horn blast at 4 am caused me to launch out of bed but it wasn’t a deal breaker considering rent was only $1700 and I got to live in an awesome neighborhood. Zero sympathy for the dude working from home.
Sounds like this zone sees a lot more traffic than an early morning train. Enough to be a deal breaker for many residents. It is portrayed here that when the quiet zone was in effect, there was not a problem. I think your anger is misplaced. The issue was with the city, who showed they didn't care about their residents and allowed the quiet zone to expire, over what turned out to be just 12 days of labor to remedy the deficiencies noted by federal inspectors. If I were a resident, I would also be angry about that.
As an ex railroad engineer, I can HONESTLY say, we are REQUIRED to blow 2 long blasts, a short blast and the final long, you hold into the crossing to FULLY WARN ALL traffic of your presence in the area. You are HEAVY, HUGE, AND CANNOT STOP. If you cannot take the noise, WHY, WHY, WHY, buy a property DIRECTLY adjacent to railroad tracks, and then complain about it? That rule about sounding the horn was born from tragedy. It's there for a REASON, needed EVER MORE urgent by the SEVERE INCREASE in distractions in day to day life. The WORST feeling in the world, is to be in that cab, at the controls and KNOW that you just hit someone. Its VERY hard to live with at times. Where is the law going to stand at a MAJOR incident with this? The FEDERAL LAW stating a train MUST sound the horn as it approached the crossing, or the CITY ordinance about a quiet zone in a POORLY maintained city quiet zone? Where does the crew involved in the incident stand? We STILL get sequestered, we STILL have to live with it, we STILL can lose out job over the incident. WE the CREW have to live with the decisions made by the city, and the individuals around us daily. If that horn saves lives, AS IT HAS MILLIONS of times, BLOW the damn thing. If you cannot take the noise, MAYBE contact the railroad and city, about moving you, if you're the type of MINDLESS that insisted on blaming EVERYONE around you, for your bad decision
I guess you are triggered by quiet zones. it makes sense to have them. the alternative is forcing the rail line to separate grade, moving the railway, or eliminating the tracks. the railway wouldn't exist without things to supposed. the government gave the land to the railroads and they sold it as they saw fit. the FRA allows for quiet zones. the outrage here should be directed towards inactive city officials ignoring 5 years of deficiencies in a quiet zone, allowing people to enter an active railway without proper warning, barriers, etc. the city government failed, not this resident.
I'm a train driver in Germany. While I do understand the importance of sounding the horn, I do find it a bit odd that you folks even have to sound it at crossings with gates and lights and all that, regardless of it being in a city or not. Here in Germany we don't even have to sound the horns at such crossings, since it is secured by said gates and lights. Of course there are a some people who don't care about the gates and cross anyway, but luckily that doesn't happen that often. We do have to sound the horns at crossings which don't have any gates or lights (or any time once danger is immediate). At these crossings without gates/lights, we sound it once or twice, rarely more than that. Different countries, different railroads, different regulations I guess. One thing that we all have in common: Safety first!
I don't mind loud noises when it's keeping people safe. I live near the Canton Junction train station in Massachusetts not right next to it close enough to hear everything. Also in the winter I often hear the sound of the city plows backing up and scraping the ground New England homes you can pretty much hear everything outside with all the windows and doors shut.
Thanks Mr. Obvious for making it clear that most of us dont enjoy/like trains. People who are not used to loud noices that make your ears ring for minutes afterwards. 😂 Alright now with that out of my system, I'm glad I live in a country where horns are only used during emergencies, malfuntioning crossings and crossings without lights.
Then explain why places in Europe and Japan can have quiet zones. Don’t have anywhere near the same amount of train accidents as well do with cars? Like dude. Proper traffic signs and warning are enough. You don’t need a horn blaring in a city. That’s ridiculous
Quiet zones require every crossing to be idiot proof. A complete blocking of the crossing for cars and pedestrians. Here in Tampa, an apartment complex was built right next to the tracks. The builder demanded a quiet zone, so CSX sent them a bill for the upgrades, to be paid before upgrades would be done. That was several years ago now, and the horns are still blowing.
Its interesting many other advanced countries can do it its beyond me US has such primitive railroad system with so much loud and dangerous crossing. Apparently the railroad lobby is strong to not be forced to fund changes. Kind of like how trucks in the US do not have strong underride guards like other advanced countries on all due to lobbying against them by the trucking industry. But in this case I am thinking the incompetent city wouldn't act until they are nudged by things like thig
Yeah the problem could've been avoided if the city dept did it's job last year. This got done only because somebone kept getting calls and I'm sure the mayor knew about the issue at least after getting the email from the news team. If the Mayor was kept in the dark someone or multiple people that knew should be getting replaced in a heartbeat for not doing their job. I'm glad they're not mad at the railroad as they're doing what they're told to do. It only echoes badly because of the sound bouncing off all the buildings. Lol
The train tracks and the horns were here LONG before developers built all those condos for the rich so it's certain they moved into a place where train horns are often heard but WAH!, the horns must go because they invested in a rail corridor as living space. Boody hoo hoo. Cry us a river. So tired of San Diego being all about the rich and the tourists. We who live here are and have been struggling so F whiny trust fund babies with their million dollar views of a bay that all used to be able to live by.
you do realize the only reason the railways ran the tracks was because the government gave them frontage along the track to sell and use as they saw fit, thus creating the cities and the demand for their service. the railway exists to serve the cities and towns it goes through. the rail created the cities and they now have to coexist with each other. quiet zones are a thing and if the city wants it, they have to maintain it. this city failed to maintain the standard for 5 YEARS. they were warned for 5 years. then the FRA said it had enough. it could have done it in 3 months. I think it should because not blowing horns is a serious safety hazard and the city failed to take action putting your lives at risk. your local government sucks at doing what it's supposed to do
This is similar to a raceway just outside of Seattle called ..... Seattle international raceway or s.i.r. ! At the time it was built there were no houses around it , but inevitably that changed as the demand for housing increased to the point that they built right next to the track ! That's when people started complaining about how loud it was on the days of operation to the point of trying to get it shut down in court ......it failed ! The judge said too bad , you knew it was there before you bought !
Absolutely NOT the same thing...... The city had a quite zone for over a decade..... Then it got turned off..... Due to piss-poor maintenance by the city. Which means the city didn't use its taxpayer money to do it's job.
Quiet zones in regards to railways are ridiculous the fact they are a reality is unacceptable. Trains blaring their horns are legitimately a safety feature.
I grew up in a railroad town in Iowa. I miss those sweet sounds of train horns. It took 2 years to get good sleep without them. Train horn are the #1 thing that let's you know a train is coming. Taking it away, no matter how much it annoys you, is extremely dangerous.
@@FS2K4Pilotsadly those big condos right against the tracks never should have been allowed to be built there. It doesn't make the train crews any safer either, they have no lines of sight to anyone near or crossing the tracks until they pop out. Crossing gates fail, cars go around gates, but no, what the city had built is a concrete canyon with people and trains, which usually don't play nice together unless very strick rules are kept in place.
Very simple there would be the extra noise of cars and people being destroyed by trains that couldn’t warn them to get out of the way. So noise level would be the same
@@lordgarion514there never was a time they didn't blow the horns. Only a time when they didn't have to blow the horns. The crews are always allowed to blow them if they see anyone is endanger around the tracks. Sadly, if anything happens it still effects the train crews for the rest of their lives... but the Mayors office, city council, and developers don't care about any of that.
@@NightOwlModeler Umm no. They were literally orders by the feds to stop blowing the horns..... And the feds didn't tell them to stop, until after they told them to start.....
Horns are safety devices and mandated by federal rules at crossings. Moving, what a great idea! Was the railroad there before you moved in or was the railroad put in after??
@@eriks8382Well, you go to court against a RR-- who in many issues have the backing of the Fed, and see how that works out for you. The DEVELOPERS should have their asses sued out of existence--- the RR was there FIRST. Don't like Trains--- don't live near them.
@@user-mr3ct1dm9p No, if anyones going to eat shit it's the incompetent bureaucrats who deliberately let the deadline expire .They think twelve days of work for city workers is an unbearable cost to allow city dwellers to live in peace. Yet, the two faced hypocrite Gloria turns around and pats himself on the back for being a champion of peoples' causes. And all the nimbyism he supports when there are calls for street repair? All for it. Expanded public transportation in SE San Diego? Nothing doing. The Fucking HYPOCRISY is astounding.
The quiet zone sounds like a courtesy that the federal government gave to the local community to prevent excessive noise in urban areas. But that is a courtesy that is extended on the condition that the local government maintains the zone. The Federal Railroad Administration has strict rules for when to sound horns on a railroad, and train engineers can lose their jobs if those rules aren't followed. This is all on the local government.
Quiet zone = vehicle crossing arms on all lanes in BOTH directions, pedestrian gates, median islands/curbs. Then they can post signs that the trains will not blow horns at crossing.
@@TomSmith-ls5rn People who speak like you are even worse. No nuance and you only exist alongside your democrat counterparts to play an eternal game of brinkmanship mixed with oneupmanship. All of you had the good part of you run down your mothers leg. Grow up. And to the op, you complaining about people whos lives have been disrupted by what essentially amounts to almost airport level noise that only exists because the city messed up, are the imbecile. You literally cannot even form a coherent thought in that empty void you call a skull and are just repeating words you have heard other similar mental rejects say without so much as even understanding that you literally sound like a person with the mental ability of a 3 year old. A textbook imbecile. And before you two fine young examples of how a person can somehow live without a functioning brain start calling me a progressive troll or whatnot. The dems can F right off too. ALL OF YOU ARE THE REAL PROBLEM WITH THIS NATION. ALL OF YOU.
They have a quit zone near Denver/ Thornton Colorado. Like Right where the train traffic is. The horns blow for safety in case people are on or near the track. Especially if the signals don't work or malfunction. what if i have vision issues and need to cross?, do i just get hit by a train? No need to lay on the horn, just a quick blast so people can clear the tracks.
Super. It looks to me that the whiners would rather have a quiet accident than a noisy safety. I read somewhere that railroad/automobile accidents increased by 300% after the "no horn" initiative was approved in one city. 💙 T.E.N.
There's nothing wrong with No Horn Zones. Proper lighting, the bell, crossing guards and signs are all effective. The only time you truly need the horn is to alert someone or something stationary on the tracks, heavy fog, or crossings without lights and guards.
The mayor of San Diego is useless. Things don't get done. I have emailed the Mayors office about problems. Also emailed the Police Chief about problems. They don't even bother responding. Please vote these people out of office.
I agree. Also, the homeless drug addicts have increased 3x since he has been in office. He is doing nothing about it. Crime has increased as well, but people keep voting them back into office. Nothing will change if they stay in office! We need to vote them all out of office... The mayor, governor, city council, etc.
@@AP12360 I agree, but they welcome illegals so their cousins will keep voting in for these fools. Who knows who is voting? The system is a cluster F. Thousands of illegals could be voting and no one seems to care.
Just because you see a sign that says "no train horn" or a fake "wayside horn" which is a speaker that sounds like a train horn that goes off next to side streets in quiet zones does not mean the trains will not blow. They can blow their horns anytime they want to if they see danger, see one of the signals not working properly, if there is construction near the tracks, or if the quiet zone is suspended, at any time, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Anyone with common sense who doesn't want to deal with that would not move next to the tracks, whether or not it is a quiet zone.
As a railroad engineer it bugs me when people say this about train horns. I find it relaxing and also when we blow the horn its for letting people know a train is coming. It so should we get rid of stop lights and signs for cars or sirens and lights of emergency vehicles. People will find anything to complain about
Apparently, horns are what gets things done. Where I live, there's 4 tracks on the CPR mainline. There's a CFL stadium next to that mainline. Every game, people would walk across the tracks instead of crossing at marled/controlled crossings. Every year, one or two people would die by train, crossing those tracks going to or from a game. CPR asked the city to put up fences to stop pedestrians from crossing anywhere along the mainline in the city. The city said no. So the CPR said, fine, we're now going to have every train passing through its whistle the whole mainline through the city. All 8 miles of track. This went on for a few months, and then suddenly, there was a fence. The only time you hear a whistle on the mainline now, is because someone is on the tracks. Another place where the horns worked was Ottawa Canada. Except it was trucks. Annoyed by horns? Those horns are there to keep you safe. Trains and trucks aren't going anywhere, regardless of what anyone thinks.
@@treasurevalleytrackside9527 o well if they get killed they get killed if you have to blow the horn every time someone walks on the tracks then they will never learn anyways that your not really supposed to do that anyways
@@knightwolf3511 then why do the number of people getting hit go up in quiet zones? In that case you might as well remove the horn from your car and see what happens when someone next to you on your left on the highway starts swerving in your direction 😂
The appropriate question would be: did they move in before the quiet zone was put in. When did this idea of simple fucking courtesy become unbearable to you nimbys
@@maxwellthehedgehog6273 funny how when it comes to changing how trains function around the homes of poor people, people seem to be up in arms. But when it comes to eminent domain highways slicing through neighborhoods of color, it's full speed ahead!
There is an old saying, if you dont like noise, dont move into a place near railroad tracks(and airports) that have been there for decades most likely before you were born.
They call these "no blow" zones. You must remember the railroad was there first. Big huge condos and whatnot were not there. They were not even there when I was a student at UCSD in the 80s. The rules with no blow zones are very specific on who has to pay for the zone. And that is the City. I dunno why people are upset at the trains. Federally mandated two longs, a short, and a long horn before any grade level crossing in the USA.
@@jhrvta i don't think there was apartments but more just normal houses and buildings although not sure how far that area goes back like when California was built you normally build a town next to the railroad. you really have to know when it's built for the later buildings and rails
Safety is paramount, but the approach to train horn use varies internationally. Fast-moving trains require loud horns to project the warning sound far ahead, yet for slower trains, a whistle may suffice. Additionally, the necessity of a horn at a gated crossing is debatable, as the physical barrier with the bell sound itself may be a sufficient alert.
People that live there: “the horns are loud I want a quiet zone!” People that live there when someone gets run over by the train: “how dare you make a quiet zone that person got run over when the trains were not allowed to blow there horns!”
Quiet zoned a need to be BANNED Trains have horns for a reason To alert everyone that trains are coming through We don’t need whiners complaining about the train horns Just move to another spot
In a lot of countries trains don't blow their horns at crossings that have lights and barriers warning people that a train is coming. And you rarely see someone ending up on the tracks with a train approaching. And I don't know why it won't work in north America as well.
@@maho_nishizumi_tigertank the reason all trains have a horn is to warn someone cause what’s the purpose of there’s every quiet zone due to some braindead family hating on the noise
@@gabrielquinones3343 Quiet Zones are there to lower the noise levels and gives a peace of mind to the citizens, imagine sleeping in the middle of the night then suddenly horn blast right beside you, now imagin that every night and every other hour of the day
Federal Law requires that trains must give a Long-Long-Short-Long signal at grade crossings to warn others. The “quiet zone” requires standards must be met to not blow the horn. The city is at fault for not meeting the standard required. The railroads are just following the Law.
😂😂😂 Why should city folks be immune to the train noises that rural folks are forced to endure? City engineers should be legally obligated to take into account ALL factors when zoning and permitting. Stop catering to the idiots who start complaining about noises and smells of districts and areas AFTER they build or move in. Commercial transportation should be better regulated concerning present and future noise issues. Citizens and business owners should be legally obligated to do their own investigations into their noise concerns beforehand.
Someone call the Wambulance!!!! Did you signed your lease with full knowledge there are trains and train horns.. I worked for the railroad for 8 years, those horns save lives, it is Federal Law that they sound two long blasts, a short blast and another long blast when approaching a grade crossing (street crossing for the ignorant out there,) the railroads wee around long before any of you were born, they built this country. We just went thru this in Oklahoma in Norman about 8 years ago, the business owners were whining about the noise, again knowing full well when they signed their lease those railroad tracks have been there for over 100 years. They also said it would cut down on train vs. pedestrian accidents, it has had the exact opposite effect, trains are extremely quiet until they are right up on you, without their horn they are very difficult to detect. The train vs. PED accidents went up over 60% after they implemented the "quiet" zone.... Quit whining and deal with it....
Wonder why the quiet zone was removed. 1:09 and you can see people crossing while the gates are still down and the lights activated. That appears to be a multiple track crossing with who knows what movements on the adjacent tracks.
I'm guessing some people didn't watch the video, or if they did they didn't comprehend the situation. These residents didn't move next to train tracks and begin complaining about the horns. They moved next to train tracks that were designated as a QUIET ZONE by the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) for decades. After years of warnings to the San Diego city government that minor maintenance issues needed addressing, the quiet zone designation was rescinded by the FRA and horns began blasting day and night in the area.
To add to that, this video is to bring attention to the negligence of the city for letting the quiet zone expire, especially over what was just 12 days of labor to fix the deficiencies. The quiet zone has now been reinstalled.
I've always lived near train crossings, including San Diego Never bothered me, slept right through them. People who are complaining need to grow up. They're like people who move close to an airport then complain about the jets making noise, or out to the country and complain about the farmers. Train horns exist for safety. Deal with it.
San Diego is 254 years of age, trains have been around for over 150 years, the residents are complaining over "deafening" train horns likely because the train horns are modified to be louder or they're new models. After all you have to ask what changed in the last few months given that trains always have been tooting their horns at interchanges, and these complaints are only recent.
These are the same kind of people who move to the rural area near lots of farms and complain about the smell when farmers fertilize there fields in the Spring before planting there crops.
LOL - you must have known my former girlfriend. 😆 She moved from LA and moved to Turlock because she wanted to be "in the country", then realized that this thing called Foster Farms was NOT like "Little House on the Prairie".🙄She learned the hard way that a farm was essentially an agricultural factory that generated its own particular noises and hazards and SMELLS, just like any other industry out there.😐
Here's a neat idea, don't buy or rent a place next to a railroad. So they are blowing horns for safety purposes and it appears the city is at fault so they city should be fined or the citizens should class action the city for failure to comply with safety requirements on the railroads.
I used to live under the flight path of Hartsfield-Jackson airport and then later about 100 feet from a railroad track near a level crossing. After about a month, I stopped noticing the roar of airplanes (even big 747s) and train horns. Even outside I didn't notice them. But even when I did notice, I didn't complain. It was my choice to live there. If you don't like the sounds of train horns, don't move close to train tracks. They can't steer away from you.
If you make a conscious decision to live next to an active fucking railway and one of the most active stations in the entirety of Southern California along with Los Angeles, and then proceeded to complain about safety mandates, that is your own fucking fault
The noise of the train means you need to clear the tracks cause they cannot stop, and the reason their horns are getting louder and piercer is because they're making cars more quieter through the outside noises, which is the same issue for suspenders have, so let's just make the cars to. Where you can hear Outside noise. And then the noise will figure out itself. And the train people won't have to make ear piercing noises
Easy, we have become a country with lots of entitlement coupled with low standards and expectations. His political party promotes the idea that you don't need to pay your own way in life, you don't have to learn a useful skill to make a living wage, you don't have to be academically qualified to get into college, you don't need to be held legally responsible if your hurt yourself doing something stupid, and you don't even have to obey laws against theft, vandalism, trespassing etc. They will even argue against law enforcement targeting a specific issue (example: DUI) if it "impacts" your particular group more than others. We get what we vote for... 😐
The irony of banning a safety device because it’s too loud 😂 it’s like here they banned engine brakes on trucks, because yes you want a heavy rock and coal truck unable to safely slow down before entering a 20 mph residential zone with a Main Street.
I despise quiet zones because people are too stupid to read signs. Just like I despise CN for buying US railroads, and CP buying US railroads and merging with KCS, unmerge CPKC it's ugly.
It's the law unless the city mitigates the dangers by implementing other (quieter) safety measures such as gates including pedestrian gates. Those 'quiet zone' measures cost money and maintenance, something the city neglected out of incompetence. In a rural area it's vastly different, the rural township doesn't have the tax base to put expensive safety crossing barriers, pedestrian gated cross walks, special warnings and warning signs and marking, so the law for trains to sound their horns on approach remains in place outside of cities. Regardless of quiet zones or not, the law for a train to sound it's horn remains in situations when someone is on the tracks where they shouldn't be. Even in quiet zones they will blast an emergency horn if there is danger present.
I used to drive trains to Bedwyn in Wiltshire UK. The line continued to the West Country but Reading local services had a turnback siding. We could be sitting there for half an hour or so. Nothing near the track but a field. Then, houses were built on the field and the complaints started soon after about the engine noise. Ok to shut down in the summer but not in the winter. It always snowed there. No engine, no heat in the cab.
This is laughable! Those tracks were there long before any of those people in that neighborhood live there. It's amazing that people complain about trains and airplanes, when they move right next to them. 🤣
Quiet Zone laws should be outlawed. They endanger people. Despite being tens of thousands of tons and being a couple miles in length sometimes, trains can be amazingly quiet in an urban environment. Train horns save lives. And if you don’t like it, move away from the tracks.
I get so tired of people moving by active rail lines and complaining about trains blowing at crossings. Motorists love to run the crossings, trying to beat the train. As soon as the train hits a vehicle. The motorist will try to sue the railroad.
I've heard of countless numbers of people who buy a property at a lower value precisely because of it's location, then endlessly complain it not the same as a property much more expensive as theirs. It's the same in every city, near airports, industrial areas, trains and many other things that make a property less expensive. I can see someone complaining if when they bought there weren’t any train horns blasting, but those same people didn't complain that the nearby crossing were neglected and becoming dangerous. When you see a danger being neglected that's when people should have companied. Had they done that they wouldn't have to complain about the noise.
It’d be different if there had never been a quiet zone in the area. When these “complainers” bought their condos it was a quiet zone. City of SD didn’t maintain signs and equipment to standards set by the feds, they were warned multiple times over 5 years that they had to but evidently didn’t believe the feds would actually remind the quiet orders…surprise! NOT!! The real truth is don’t mess with the federal railroad administration, the FRA takes no sh!t. Unless it’s from the freight railroads.
Live by a train track you should hear some trains. I live in a town where they are coming and going from both directions freight trains and we have no quite zone but we didn’t build high rises on top of the tracks either
The irony is that if somebody got hit by a train through the “quiet zone”, they would try to blame it on the railroad for not making noise.
You KNOW that is correct!!!
Let’s play a game…
I was about to to say the same thing
With such sound level, it sounds(ha!) like malicious compliance.
That's actually the one time the trains can break the horn embargo. For someone in danger of hitting the train.
Lives by rail, complains about train noise.
Lives by airport, complains about aircraft noise.
Lives by shooting range, complains about gunfire.
Lives by schools, complains about kids screaming and traffic.
Lives by fire station, complains about emergency vehicles.
😐
People complain about anything THEY don't like, no matter how many people it may put into danger.
I would complain about traffic near schoold too. Traffic is biggest cause of children deaths.
Legit man, these karens.
Add "live by freeway, complain about engine braking from semis slowing for the exit ramps".
Or "Live in Suburbs... complain if neighbors work hours are different than yours because the car coming and going makes noise or the light from their house keeps up the neighborhood..."
Same goes for those that built houses around an active racetrack
Federal Rail Laws prevail against lame local ordinances.
You know what started the whole quiet zone crap? Cause San Diego allowed all those condos and apartments to be built literally next to the tracks, and the new tenants started whining... So... Same with the dumbasses who bought homes right next to Miramar, then wanted the Marines to move. Entitled dipshits, one and all... And now we're finding out the city didn't do what they were obligated to do (of course) so now this is the result. Personally, I find it hilarious.
Yeah wouldnt wanna loose my liscence over this.
Yep. It federal law thar all trains must sound their horns when approaching Rail Crossing, approaching a curve or leaving the station.
@@mcdtropicalfishandaquarium8993 And quiet zones, when properly maintained, are authorized exemptions to those rules :)
No they are not thats why it failed @@ckildegaard
Lol, the mayor didn't respond to the feds, they asked for an interview and the mayor didn't respond. What a surprise.....
You hate safety
Yup... crooked city government. Was like that the whole time I lived there, and I see some things haven't changed
Don't like the railroad move
Imagine misappropriated tax dollars not going where they need to be going (cough cough, into their own pockets). So sad that it takes thousands of people complaining about the city not doing their job for actual progress to be made
@@user-qp5uz1ul8z Imagine moving to near these tracks because of the quiet zone and transport is convenient, then because some asshole in the city council didn't want to do their federally-mandated job to maintain the quiet zone suddenly you're right next to train horns designed to be heard from miles away, that have to blow for at least five seconds for each of more than a dozen level crossings.
I'd be pissed and I'm a railwayman myself.
It’s either the train operator blows the horns or viewers will soon see dead bodies live & televised.
I know. Unbelievable, right?
Watch the whole video. The quiet zone is again in effect. This video is to bring attention to the negligence by the city for letting it expire, especially over what was just 12 days of labor to remedy it.
I'd rather see the splat.
Well install cameras and upload them here. The channel would be some sort of a crossover of 11foot8 and r/wpd.
@@potblack6043it never should have been brought back. Quiet zones kill.
The trains were there long before any housing existed
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Quiet zones exist for a reason
@@eriks8382 for city whiners
Move to the country for silence
Yup. The whole "no horn" bullshit was passed when I still lived there, and I thought it was ridiculous. Don't want to hear horns or trains? Don't buy a place literally next to the tracks. Just like the dipshits moving next to Miramar air base, and demanding the Marines move.
@@KiltedNomadd Yes, the marines were there first.
Welcome to Downtown San Diego Santa Fe Depot, We wouldn’t EXIST without the RAILROAD!! 🛤️ 🤦♂️
great, then you live next to the train.
@@bradfordjhartI live near live tracks in a non quiet zone. You get used to it.
@@bradfordjhart Always have. Never once been bothered by train horns.
But living in a concrete canyon makes it worse which I understand but safety is priority one
@@garcjr Same here, but then again I have family from NYC. My grandparents lived in Flushing, Queens on Roosevelt Avenue. The street was always busy with traffic, the end of track for the IRT 7 Subway line was underground, almost adjacent to the basement, the Northern Branch of the Long Island Railroad ran in a trench a block and a half away, and to top it off, we lived almost right underneath the flight path of La Guardia, In the summer I slept in a screened off porch on the second story of Victorian era duplex, so there was no door to keep noise out, and I never had any problem sleeping with it. The normal sounds of commerce and industry do not bother me. What does bother me are the noises of breaking glass, people arguing/fighting, people driving their cars/motorcycles like idiot to get attention, and garbage rap music played through shredded speakers in the gas station parking lot at all. Trains don't bother me one bit.
Hold up. You're telling me YOU moved next to hot tracks that operate trains all day and you're complaining about the noise?
These galaxy brains are the same ones who move under the flight path next to an airport and complaint about the noise too.
They might have moved to the location when the quiet zone was in place.
@@SDGreg It's a railroad - think.
@@modtwentyeightIt has everything to do with the city not properly maintaining the grade crossings. Why are you giving the city a free pass on this?
These are absolutely the same people who moved in next to an airport, then complained about all those planes taking off and landing.
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It is my understanding that even in quite zones trains can still use their horns if they see a dangerous condition on or near the track.
You are correct.
Like an idiot walking down the track.
@@TDS621 what do conductors collecting tickets have to do with train horns?
@@MatthewMello 🗣️okay okay! The Locomotive Operator, The Engineer.
@@MatthewMello wrong terminology 🤷🏻
The rail was there long b4 the homes started surrounding the tracks. Just like the idiots that moved into homes near the airport complaining about aircraft noise. If you don't like the noise...move.
You don’t care about public transportation. I can smell it from a mile away. You just like seeing poor people suffer
It's not communism to blame people for not moving. Not even social state.
No, the tracks were laid to bring things into the city.
The city already existed. Which means the houses already existed.
(Not that more houses weren't added after the tracks, but that's irrelevant.)
They laid the tracks through the city......
The Spanish first setup shop in 1769, well before the American Revolution on the East Coast and well before any raildroad tracks were laid on America soil. In fact, San Diego is the oldest city in California.
@@lordgarion514 shut up with your facts garion
Don't like the sound of trains? Don't live next to an active rail line!!!
Right? Guy moves to Little Italy, probably right under the flight path, then complains about train horns.
DUHHH!!!
Spot On
American news is so dumb and outdated, and tbh we don’t even need it anymore. There’s so much internet everywhere you can just get actual information straight from the source. Time to bankrupt the legacy media.
Good point
It’s a f*ucking railroad and it’s been there since 1887?! They make noise. I lived there before the “quiet zone” days right on the tracks. Yes the occasional train horn blast at 4 am caused me to launch out of bed but it wasn’t a deal breaker considering rent was only $1700 and I got to live in an awesome neighborhood. Zero sympathy for the dude working from home.
LOL he's not looking for sympathy. He moved away!
Not like he’d be fired for a train horn lol
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Sounds like this zone sees a lot more traffic than an early morning train. Enough to be a deal breaker for many residents. It is portrayed here that when the quiet zone was in effect, there was not a problem. I think your anger is misplaced. The issue was with the city, who showed they didn't care about their residents and allowed the quiet zone to expire, over what turned out to be just 12 days of labor to remedy the deficiencies noted by federal inspectors. If I were a resident, I would also be angry about that.
You think rent is still 1700?
It took over a year and federal action to get the city to do 12 days of work?!
5 years actually
Not do**
@@ndb_static_6850Still technically over a year.
@@michaelkaminski1166 well no shit
Democrats...
As an ex railroad engineer, I can HONESTLY say, we are REQUIRED to blow 2 long blasts, a short blast and the final long, you hold into the crossing to FULLY WARN ALL traffic of your presence in the area. You are HEAVY, HUGE, AND CANNOT STOP. If you cannot take the noise, WHY, WHY, WHY, buy a property DIRECTLY adjacent to railroad tracks, and then complain about it? That rule about sounding the horn was born from tragedy. It's there for a REASON, needed EVER MORE urgent by the SEVERE INCREASE in distractions in day to day life. The WORST feeling in the world, is to be in that cab, at the controls and KNOW that you just hit someone. Its VERY hard to live with at times. Where is the law going to stand at a MAJOR incident with this? The FEDERAL LAW stating a train MUST sound the horn as it approached the crossing, or the CITY ordinance about a quiet zone in a POORLY maintained city quiet zone? Where does the crew involved in the incident stand? We STILL get sequestered, we STILL have to live with it, we STILL can lose out job over the incident. WE the CREW have to live with the decisions made by the city, and the individuals around us daily. If that horn saves lives, AS IT HAS MILLIONS of times, BLOW the damn thing. If you cannot take the noise, MAYBE contact the railroad and city, about moving you, if you're the type of MINDLESS that insisted on blaming EVERYONE around you, for your bad decision
I guess you are triggered by quiet zones. it makes sense to have them. the alternative is forcing the rail line to separate grade, moving the railway, or eliminating the tracks. the railway wouldn't exist without things to supposed. the government gave the land to the railroads and they sold it as they saw fit. the FRA allows for quiet zones. the outrage here should be directed towards inactive city officials ignoring 5 years of deficiencies in a quiet zone, allowing people to enter an active railway without proper warning, barriers, etc. the city government failed, not this resident.
I'm a train driver in Germany. While I do understand the importance of sounding the horn, I do find it a bit odd that you folks even have to sound it at crossings with gates and lights and all that, regardless of it being in a city or not. Here in Germany we don't even have to sound the horns at such crossings, since it is secured by said gates and lights. Of course there are a some people who don't care about the gates and cross anyway, but luckily that doesn't happen that often. We do have to sound the horns at crossings which don't have any gates or lights (or any time once danger is immediate). At these crossings without gates/lights, we sound it once or twice, rarely more than that. Different countries, different railroads, different regulations I guess. One thing that we all have in common: Safety first!
@@CubaniscoGates and lights have been known to fail so I do appreciate the redundancy of the train horn.
I don't mind loud noises when it's keeping people safe. I live near the Canton Junction train station in Massachusetts not right next to it close enough to hear everything. Also in the winter I often hear the sound of the city plows backing up and scraping the ground New England homes you can pretty much hear everything outside with all the windows and doors shut.
Whiners
Exactly.
Thanks Mr. Obvious for making it clear that most of us dont enjoy/like trains. People who are not used to loud noices that make your ears ring for minutes afterwards. 😂
Alright now with that out of my system, I'm glad I live in a country where horns are only used during emergencies, malfuntioning crossings and crossings without lights.
Yeah exactly
All these people crying boohoo, you chose to live next to the train tracks
It wouldn’t be the train’s fault if these people get hit by the trains on said tracks.
Fuck you dicklicker. Why don’t we all campaign to put. Railroad tracks next to your home
Came here to say this.
Quiet zones should NEVER be allowed!
The horns are sounded for safety!
Railroads were in the areas long before the people moved there!
If that's the case, the city needs to seriously reconsider the zoning around the tracks to avoid residential areas being adjacent to the tracks.
Thank you 1950!
@@Teabahgeue They should but won't for fear of losing revenue!
great you move next to the train
Then explain why places in Europe and Japan can have quiet zones. Don’t have anywhere near the same amount of train accidents as well do with cars? Like dude. Proper traffic signs and warning are enough. You don’t need a horn blaring in a city. That’s ridiculous
Quiet zones require every crossing to be idiot proof. A complete blocking of the crossing for cars and pedestrians.
Here in Tampa, an apartment complex was built right next to the tracks. The builder demanded a quiet zone, so CSX sent them a bill for the upgrades, to be paid before upgrades would be done. That was several years ago now, and the horns are still blowing.
I love CSX just for that
Its interesting many other advanced countries can do it its beyond me US has such primitive railroad system with so much loud and dangerous crossing. Apparently the railroad lobby is strong to not be forced to fund changes. Kind of like how trucks in the US do not have strong underride guards like other advanced countries on all due to lobbying against them by the trucking industry. But in this case I am thinking the incompetent city wouldn't act until they are nudged by things like thig
Why don't the dig down the crossings ?
No horns lights or gates
Yeah the problem could've been avoided if the city dept did it's job last year. This got done only because somebone kept getting calls and I'm sure the mayor knew about the issue at least after getting the email from the news team.
If the Mayor was kept in the dark someone or multiple people that knew should be getting replaced in a heartbeat for not doing their job.
I'm glad they're not mad at the railroad as they're doing what they're told to do. It only echoes badly because of the sound bouncing off all the buildings. Lol
Why do gentrifiers move to any city (which has noise!) then immediately try to make things quiet? ITS A CITY
There was no train horn for about 15 years.....
And proper maintenance using the taxpayer money would have kept the noise away.
Mayor: i have higher priorities to work on.
Trains : Hold my HORNS!!!!
Feds: Time for some malicious compliance..
The train tracks and the horns were here LONG before developers built all those condos for the rich so it's certain they moved into a place where train horns are often heard but WAH!, the horns must go because they invested in a rail corridor as living space. Boody hoo hoo. Cry us a river. So tired of San Diego being all about the rich and the tourists. We who live here are and have been struggling so F whiny trust fund babies with their million dollar views of a bay that all used to be able to live by.
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Who took a fucking crap in your cheerios
This goes for racetracks & stadiums too
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I lived in Sturgis SD and everyone complained about the motorcycle rally and it predates most of them by two generations Lmfao 🙄🤔😂
you do realize the only reason the railways ran the tracks was because the government gave them frontage along the track to sell and use as they saw fit, thus creating the cities and the demand for their service. the railway exists to serve the cities and towns it goes through. the rail created the cities and they now have to coexist with each other. quiet zones are a thing and if the city wants it, they have to maintain it. this city failed to maintain the standard for 5 YEARS. they were warned for 5 years. then the FRA said it had enough. it could have done it in 3 months. I think it should because not blowing horns is a serious safety hazard and the city failed to take action putting your lives at risk. your local government sucks at doing what it's supposed to do
This is similar to a raceway just outside of Seattle called ..... Seattle international raceway or s.i.r. ! At the time it was built there were no houses around it , but inevitably that changed as the demand for housing increased to the point that they built right next to the track ! That's when people started complaining about how loud it was on the days of operation to the point of trying to get it shut down in court ......it failed ! The judge said too bad , you knew it was there before you bought !
Absolutely NOT the same thing......
The city had a quite zone for over a decade..... Then it got turned off..... Due to piss-poor maintenance by the city.
Which means the city didn't use its taxpayer money to do it's job.
Quiet zones in regards to railways are ridiculous the fact they are a reality is unacceptable.
Trains blaring their horns are legitimately a safety feature.
It's there so you don't get hit by a train
People weren’t getting hit before the quiet zone. That’s the point. The only reason got a are honking now is because of lazy bureaucrats
This was normal until municipalities could opt out of the FRA regulated saftey measure that is a train horn.
Also I don’t want to hear complaining from anyone who moved in near train tracks.
If you don't like the noise MOVE! 😞
Better yet don't move near the tracks in the first place!!! DUHHH!
It's not always that easy though
I grew up in a railroad town in Iowa. I miss those sweet sounds of train horns. It took 2 years to get good sleep without them. Train horn are the #1 thing that let's you know a train is coming. Taking it away, no matter how much it annoys you, is extremely dangerous.
I would agree, but in a downtown area, with the horns reverberating off of fifty skyscrapers, that might be different.
@@FS2K4Pilotthen don’t live there… simple
@@FS2K4Pilotsadly those big condos right against the tracks never should have been allowed to be built there. It doesn't make the train crews any safer either, they have no lines of sight to anyone near or crossing the tracks until they pop out. Crossing gates fail, cars go around gates, but no, what the city had built is a concrete canyon with people and trains, which usually don't play nice together unless very strick rules are kept in place.
People get hit either walking or in their cars even with the loud ass horns, now imagine without the horn noise.
So the logical
Conclusion is let the fumbasses who try to outpace trains to get fucked. They’re going to either way
Very simple there would be the extra noise of cars and people being destroyed by trains that couldn’t warn them to get out of the way. So noise level would be the same
So why did they moved next to the railroad? Were they aware trains make noise?
Much like the city fools who move away from the city to the countryside and then complain about manure smells.
Probably because it was at a time when the trains don’t blast their horns at crossings, now they they are allowed to the complains roll in
Were you aware that the twins didn't blow their horns until the city screwed up??
Your lack of common sense doesn't mean much.
@@lordgarion514there never was a time they didn't blow the horns. Only a time when they didn't have to blow the horns. The crews are always allowed to blow them if they see anyone is endanger around the tracks. Sadly, if anything happens it still effects the train crews for the rest of their lives... but the Mayors office, city council, and developers don't care about any of that.
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Umm no.
They were literally orders by the feds to stop blowing the horns.....
And the feds didn't tell them to stop, until after they told them to start.....
Horns are safety devices and mandated by federal rules at crossings. Moving, what a great idea! Was the railroad there before you moved in or was the railroad put in after??
Doesn’t matter. Safety zones exist for a reason
@@eriks8382Well, you go to court against a RR-- who in many issues have the backing of the Fed, and see how that works out for you. The DEVELOPERS should have their asses sued out of existence--- the RR was there FIRST. Don't like Trains--- don't live near them.
@@user-mr3ct1dm9p No, if anyones going to eat shit it's the incompetent bureaucrats who deliberately let the deadline expire .They think twelve days of work for city workers is an unbearable cost to allow city dwellers to live in peace. Yet, the two faced hypocrite Gloria turns around and pats himself on the back for being a champion of peoples' causes. And all the nimbyism he supports when there are calls for street repair? All for it. Expanded public transportation in SE San Diego? Nothing doing.
The Fucking HYPOCRISY is astounding.
The quiet zone sounds like a courtesy that the federal government gave to the local community to prevent excessive noise in urban areas. But that is a courtesy that is extended on the condition that the local government maintains the zone. The Federal Railroad Administration has strict rules for when to sound horns on a railroad, and train engineers can lose their jobs if those rules aren't followed. This is all on the local government.
Wtf is a " quiet zone"? What Is the safety mandate? This sounds like the bickering of adult babies to me.
Quiet zone = vehicle crossing arms on all lanes in BOTH directions, pedestrian gates, median islands/curbs. Then they can post signs that the trains will not blow horns at crossing.
Lib's. So easily triggered.
@@TomSmith-ls5rnconservatives, actually. Liberals like trains.
@@TomSmith-ls5rn People who speak like you are even worse. No nuance and you only exist alongside your democrat counterparts to play an eternal game of brinkmanship mixed with oneupmanship.
All of you had the good part of you run down your mothers leg.
Grow up.
And to the op, you complaining about people whos lives have been disrupted by what essentially amounts to almost airport level noise that only exists because the city messed up, are the imbecile. You literally cannot even form a coherent thought in that empty void you call a skull and are just repeating words you have heard other similar mental rejects say without so much as even understanding that you literally sound like a person with the mental ability of a 3 year old. A textbook imbecile.
And before you two fine young examples of how a person can somehow live without a functioning brain start calling me a progressive troll or whatnot. The dems can F right off too. ALL OF YOU ARE THE REAL PROBLEM WITH THIS NATION. ALL OF YOU.
They have a quit zone near Denver/ Thornton Colorado. Like Right where the train traffic is. The horns blow for safety in case people are on or near the track. Especially if the signals don't work or malfunction. what if i have vision issues and need to cross?, do i just get hit by a train? No need to lay on the horn, just a quick blast so people can clear the tracks.
So the city F’d around and now they’re finding out.
With the amount of trespasser strikes in this area I'd say the quit zone is a failure
quiet
…Zones a plenty to spoil the crap out of railfans everywhere.
Accidents didn’t go up or down as a result of the quiet zone. That means the alternative signage works. Tell the truth.
Super. It looks to me that the whiners would rather have a quiet accident than a noisy safety. I read somewhere that railroad/automobile accidents increased by 300% after the "no horn" initiative was approved in one city. 💙 T.E.N.
I'd _love_ to live there. Ungrateful NIMBYs.
no horn zones should be illegal. you live near a train line you choose that
There's nothing wrong with No Horn Zones. Proper lighting, the bell, crossing guards and signs are all effective. The only time you truly need the horn is to alert someone or something stationary on the tracks, heavy fog, or crossings without lights and guards.
Imagine if we could get car horns silenced too.
NYC is trying that
The mayor of San Diego is useless. Things don't get done. I have emailed the Mayors office about problems. Also emailed the Police Chief about problems. They don't even bother responding. Please vote these people out of office.
I agree. Also, the homeless drug addicts have increased 3x since he has been in office. He is doing nothing about it. Crime has increased as well, but people keep voting them back into office. Nothing will change if they stay in office! We need to vote them all out of office... The mayor, governor, city council, etc.
Just like everywhere else in crapafornia!!!👎
@@AP12360 I agree, but they welcome illegals so their cousins will keep voting in for these fools. Who knows who is voting? The system is a cluster F. Thousands of illegals could be voting and no one seems to care.
If you don't like train horns, don't live next to a railroad. Period. Train horns are not about annoying people, they're about safety.
I would rather hear a train horn than become orange goo by being hit by a train.
Just because you see a sign that says "no train horn" or a fake "wayside horn" which is a speaker that sounds like a train horn that goes off next to side streets in quiet zones does not mean the trains will not blow. They can blow their horns anytime they want to if they see danger, see one of the signals not working properly, if there is construction near the tracks, or if the quiet zone is suspended, at any time, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Anyone with common sense who doesn't want to deal with that would not move next to the tracks, whether or not it is a quiet zone.
Imagine moving next to train tracks then being upset by a train using them
All I'm hearing is about pf people bitching about the train horn here a crazy idea how about DON'T LIVE BY A ACTIVE RAIL LINE
As a railroad engineer it bugs me when people say this about train horns. I find it relaxing and also when we blow the horn its for letting people know a train is coming. It so should we get rid of stop lights and signs for cars or sirens and lights of emergency vehicles. People will find anything to complain about
Exactly
and they chose to move by the RR tracks. The tracks were there way before the town
Apparently, horns are what gets things done.
Where I live, there's 4 tracks on the CPR mainline. There's a CFL stadium next to that mainline. Every game, people would walk across the tracks instead of crossing at marled/controlled crossings. Every year, one or two people would die by train, crossing those tracks going to or from a game. CPR asked the city to put up fences to stop pedestrians from crossing anywhere along the mainline in the city. The city said no. So the CPR said, fine, we're now going to have every train passing through its whistle the whole mainline through the city. All 8 miles of track. This went on for a few months, and then suddenly, there was a fence. The only time you hear a whistle on the mainline now, is because someone is on the tracks.
Another place where the horns worked was Ottawa Canada. Except it was trucks. Annoyed by horns? Those horns are there to keep you safe. Trains and trucks aren't going anywhere, regardless of what anyone thinks.
People forget the purpose of the horns, and then they complain when someone they know gets killed in a quiet zone and blame it on the train
@@treasurevalleytrackside9527 o well if they get killed they get killed if you have to blow the horn every time someone walks on the tracks then they will never learn anyways that your not really supposed to do that anyways
@@knightwolf3511 then why do the number of people getting hit go up in quiet zones? In that case you might as well remove the horn from your car and see what happens when someone next to you on your left on the highway starts swerving in your direction 😂
My first question is why do they buildup residential housing right next to the rail road tracks.
CORRECT, and THANK YOU !!!
I live near a track and have no issues. The noise really doesn't travel inside the apartment all that much. This is very surreal.
What was there first, the trains or the housing?
The appropriate question would be: did they move in before the quiet zone was put in.
When did this idea of simple fucking courtesy become unbearable to you nimbys
Trains obviously.
@@maxwellthehedgehog6273 funny how when it comes to changing how trains function around the homes of poor people, people seem to be up in arms. But when it comes to eminent domain highways slicing through neighborhoods of color, it's full speed ahead!
There is an old saying, if you dont like noise, dont move into a place near railroad tracks(and airports) that have been there for decades most likely before you were born.
12 days and dude had to move? Such cute little flowers they have in CA
They call these "no blow" zones. You must remember the railroad was there first. Big huge condos and whatnot were not there. They were not even there when I was a student at UCSD in the 80s. The rules with no blow zones are very specific on who has to pay for the zone. And that is the City. I dunno why people are upset at the trains. Federally mandated two longs, a short, and a long horn before any grade level crossing in the USA.
It's called a "Quiet Zone".
@@sirblack1619 Not if you listen to the railroad scanners. But sure.
@@jhrvta i don't think there was apartments but more just normal houses and buildings although not sure how far that area goes back like when California was built you normally build a town next to the railroad. you really have to know when it's built for the later buildings and rails
Safety is paramount, but the approach to train horn use varies internationally. Fast-moving trains require loud horns to project the warning sound far ahead, yet for slower trains, a whistle may suffice. Additionally, the necessity of a horn at a gated crossing is debatable, as the physical barrier with the bell sound itself may be a sufficient alert.
People that live there: “the horns are loud I want a quiet zone!” People that live there when someone gets run over by the train: “how dare you make a quiet zone that person got run over when the trains were not allowed to blow there horns!”
If you don’t like it move. It’s a safety precaution.
0:43 Bro decided to live next to trains and is shocked its loud. Bruuuh.
Quiet zoned a need to be BANNED
Trains have horns for a reason
To alert everyone that trains are coming through
We don’t need whiners complaining about the train horns
Just move to another spot
In a lot of countries trains don't blow their horns at crossings that have lights and barriers warning people that a train is coming.
And you rarely see someone ending up on the tracks with a train approaching.
And I don't know why it won't work in north America as well.
There’s a Quiet Zone to lower the noise level, but to maintain that the city has to have the required equipment and markings, which they don’t
@@maho_nishizumi_tigertank the reason all trains have a horn is to warn someone cause what’s the purpose of there’s every quiet zone due to some braindead family hating on the noise
@@gabrielquinones3343 Quiet Zones are there to lower the noise levels and gives a peace of mind to the citizens, imagine sleeping in the middle of the night then suddenly horn blast right beside you, now imagin that every night and every other hour of the day
People need to stop complaining and just accept that you live near train tracks or just move
Federal Law requires that trains must give a Long-Long-Short-Long signal at grade crossings to warn others. The “quiet zone” requires standards must be met to not blow the horn. The city is at fault for not meeting the standard required. The railroads are just following the Law.
The city should be held accountable for any injuries and deaths at quiet zone railroad crossings.
😂😂😂 Why should city folks be immune to the train noises that rural folks are forced to endure?
City engineers should be legally obligated to take into account ALL factors when zoning and permitting. Stop catering to the idiots who start complaining about noises and smells of districts and areas AFTER they build or move in.
Commercial transportation should be better regulated concerning present and future noise issues.
Citizens and business owners should be legally obligated to do their own investigations into their noise concerns beforehand.
Someone call the Wambulance!!!! Did you signed your lease with full knowledge there are trains and train horns.. I worked for the railroad for 8 years, those horns save lives, it is Federal Law that they sound two long blasts, a short blast and another long blast when approaching a grade crossing (street crossing for the ignorant out there,) the railroads wee around long before any of you were born, they built this country. We just went thru this in Oklahoma in Norman about 8 years ago, the business owners were whining about the noise, again knowing full well when they signed their lease those railroad tracks have been there for over 100 years.
They also said it would cut down on train vs. pedestrian accidents, it has had the exact opposite effect, trains are extremely quiet until they are right up on you, without their horn they are very difficult to detect.
The train vs. PED accidents went up over 60% after they implemented the "quiet" zone....
Quit whining and deal with it....
Wonder why the quiet zone was removed. 1:09 and you can see people crossing while the gates are still down and the lights activated. That appears to be a multiple track crossing with who knows what movements on the adjacent tracks.
I'm guessing some people didn't watch the video, or if they did they didn't comprehend the situation. These residents didn't move next to train tracks and begin complaining about the horns. They moved next to train tracks that were designated as a QUIET ZONE by the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) for decades. After years of warnings to the San Diego city government that minor maintenance issues needed addressing, the quiet zone designation was rescinded by the FRA and horns began blasting day and night in the area.
To add to that, this video is to bring attention to the negligence of the city for letting the quiet zone expire, especially over what was just 12 days of labor to fix the deficiencies. The quiet zone has now been reinstalled.
I've always lived near train crossings, including San Diego Never bothered me, slept right through them. People who are complaining need to grow up. They're like people who move close to an airport then complain about the jets making noise, or out to the country and complain about the farmers. Train horns exist for safety. Deal with it.
Aww..poor San Diego ears are so much more important than people's lives..
San Diego is 254 years of age, trains have been around for over 150 years, the residents are complaining over "deafening" train horns likely because the train horns are modified to be louder or they're new models. After all you have to ask what changed in the last few months given that trains always have been tooting their horns at interchanges, and these complaints are only recent.
So the Karen that looked lke a dude didn't know there were train tracks going by his apartment.
These are the same kind of people who move to the rural area near lots of farms and complain about the smell when farmers fertilize there fields in the Spring before planting there crops.
LOL - you must have known my former girlfriend. 😆 She moved from LA and moved to Turlock because she wanted to be "in the country", then realized that this thing called Foster Farms was NOT like "Little House on the Prairie".🙄She learned the hard way that a farm was essentially an agricultural factory that generated its own particular noises and hazards and SMELLS, just like any other industry out there.😐
Here's a neat idea, don't buy or rent a place next to a railroad. So they are blowing horns for safety purposes and it appears the city is at fault so they city should be fined or the citizens should class action the city for failure to comply with safety requirements on the railroads.
Nah. How about 🖕🏽
I used to live under the flight path of Hartsfield-Jackson airport and then later about 100 feet from a railroad track near a level crossing. After about a month, I stopped noticing the roar of airplanes (even big 747s) and train horns. Even outside I didn't notice them. But even when I did notice, I didn't complain. It was my choice to live there.
If you don't like the sounds of train horns, don't move close to train tracks. They can't steer away from you.
Well, I stand right beside trains and record them, and they blow the horn right into my ears and I don’t get no headache
it was hard performing in adult entertainment in those tall residential buildings, glad I'm back in burbank performing again
Fap industry problems...
If you make a conscious decision to live next to an active fucking railway and one of the most active stations in the entirety of Southern California along with Los Angeles, and then proceeded to complain about safety mandates, that is your own fucking fault
That state can't fall in the ocean soon enough
The noise of the train means you need to clear the tracks cause they cannot stop, and the reason their horns are getting louder and piercer is because they're making cars more quieter through the outside noises, which is the same issue for suspenders have, so let's just make the cars to. Where you can hear Outside noise. And then the noise will figure out itself. And the train people won't have to make ear piercing noises
Guess you shouldn't have moved near an active train line.
How did Tom Gloria ever become Mayor?
Easy, we have become a country with lots of entitlement coupled with low standards and expectations. His political party promotes the idea that you don't need to pay your own way in life, you don't have to learn a useful skill to make a living wage, you don't have to be academically qualified to get into college, you don't need to be held legally responsible if your hurt yourself doing something stupid, and you don't even have to obey laws against theft, vandalism, trespassing etc. They will even argue against law enforcement targeting a specific issue (example: DUI) if it "impacts" your particular group more than others. We get what we vote for... 😐
The irony of banning a safety device because it’s too loud 😂 it’s like here they banned engine brakes on trucks, because yes you want a heavy rock and coal truck unable to safely slow down before entering a 20 mph residential zone with a Main Street.
Let me guess, cars won't have seat belts because they are too restrictive?
I despise quiet zones because people are too stupid to read signs. Just like I despise CN for buying US railroads, and CP buying US railroads and merging with KCS, unmerge CPKC it's ugly.
The question is who was there first the train or the complaining populous
In many cases, the RR was there first.
Train horn has a purpose.
You all realize that it’s law. Trains MUST sound their horns when approaching crossings.
It's the law unless the city mitigates the dangers by implementing other (quieter) safety measures such as gates including pedestrian gates. Those 'quiet zone' measures cost money and maintenance, something the city neglected out of incompetence. In a rural area it's vastly different, the rural township doesn't have the tax base to put expensive safety crossing barriers, pedestrian gated cross walks, special warnings and warning signs and marking, so the law for trains to sound their horns on approach remains in place outside of cities. Regardless of quiet zones or not, the law for a train to sound it's horn remains in situations when someone is on the tracks where they shouldn't be. Even in quiet zones they will blast an emergency horn if there is danger present.
@@mikew.to1federal trumps local douche bags
Man moves next to rail road, complains about noise.........
I used to drive trains to Bedwyn in Wiltshire UK. The line continued to the West Country but Reading local services had a turnback siding. We could be sitting there for half an hour or so. Nothing near the track but a field. Then, houses were built on the field and the complaints started soon after about the engine noise. Ok to shut down in the summer but not in the winter. It always snowed there. No engine, no heat in the cab.
If people move into an area with an existing condition they shouldn't be complaining. The horn blowing is so people don't die
This is laughable! Those tracks were there long before any of those people in that neighborhood live there. It's amazing that people complain about trains and airplanes, when they move right next to them. 🤣
What a great story by this reporter. We now know who to hold accountable.
Quiet Zone laws should be outlawed. They endanger people. Despite being tens of thousands of tons and being a couple miles in length sometimes, trains can be amazingly quiet in an urban environment. Train horns save lives.
And if you don’t like it, move away from the tracks.
I get so tired of people moving by active rail lines and complaining about trains blowing at crossings. Motorists love to run the crossings, trying to beat the train. As soon as the train hits a vehicle. The motorist will try to sue the railroad.
American news is very boring 😴 nothing wrong with train horns
People whine too much.
Yeah, all they need to do is simply suck it up and get used to it, not to shut these horns up.
@@T128ProductionsYup, that's it!!
Yep and they gonna complain when a train hits them too
Local municipality doesn't maintain infrastructure? Impossible!!
Imagine being so NIMBY you actually move away
If you live there you should be used to it.
These people just like to complain.
I've heard of countless numbers of people who buy a property at a lower value precisely because of it's location, then endlessly complain it not the same as a property much more expensive as theirs. It's the same in every city, near airports, industrial areas, trains and many other things that make a property less expensive. I can see someone complaining if when they bought there weren’t any train horns blasting, but those same people didn't complain that the nearby crossing were neglected and becoming dangerous. When you see a danger being neglected that's when people should have companied. Had they done that they wouldn't have to complain about the noise.
It’d be different if there had never been a quiet zone in the area. When these “complainers” bought their condos it was a quiet zone. City of SD didn’t maintain signs and equipment to standards set by the feds, they were warned multiple times over 5 years that they had to but evidently didn’t believe the feds would actually remind the quiet orders…surprise! NOT!!
The real truth is don’t mess with the federal railroad administration, the FRA takes no sh!t. Unless it’s from the freight railroads.
Remote workers bitching. Get a job
Time for grade separation if you really want to get rid of the blasting horns
Live by a train track you should hear some trains. I live in a town where they are coming and going from both directions freight trains and we have no quite zone but we didn’t build high rises on top of the tracks either
The city was cheaping out hoping that the residents wouldn't care or notice.