Groves Trial Day 4 - Daniel Groves Takes to the Stand
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- A mother and father in Scioto County, Ohio stand trial in the death of their infant son. Young Dylan Groves was found dead 30 feet down a well last year, prosecutors said. Authorities blame the boy’s parents-mother Jessica Groves, and father Daniel Groves-for what happened. The defendants are charged with aggravated murder, murder, kidnapping, endangering children, tampering with evidence, interference with custody, gross abuse of a corpse, and four counts of felonious assault.
Problems stemmed right from Dylan’s day of birth on January 10, 2019. The boy was born with drugs in his system, authorities claim. Daniel Groves later got the child back after showing that he followed regulations, but the defendant allegedly started missing important dates, including court dates and doctor’s appointments.
Investigators claim that both defendants bolted on a four-wheeler when authorities dropped by the home for a checkup on May 20, according to WLTW. Deputies obtained a search warrant, got Jessica Groves to give herself up quickly, but Daniel Groves was only arrested after a six-hour standoff. Authorities said they found $42,000 of stolen items at the residence, and later found the late infant in a well.
Deputies said Dylan Groves didn’t even make it to a full three months of age. They claim there’s evidence showing he’d been dead since March.
How Baby Dylan Was Found In the Well:
A coroner determined that the victim had been slain. The child sustained several bone fractures, had been wrapped in plastic bags with duct tape, then put in milk crates that were wrapped in chains, and other bindings, according to WSAZ. The crates were weighted down with rocks and a weight, authorities said. As in his birth, Groves died with drugs in his body, according to the coroner. This allegedly included methamphetamine.
#DylanGroves #GrovesTrial #JessicaAndDanielGrovesTrial
Dylan was murdered because he cried excessively because he was born drug addicted. An innocent punished for his mother’s crimes against him. WTF is wrong with this world.
And what’s crazy is they hit him and break his bones which will only make him cry more
Not only was he probably still going through drug withdrawals but hed been beaten & had many broken bones & bruises. Broken ribs are excruciatingly painful. Hed have felt it everytime he took a breath. He had also been taken from the only family who had actually taken proper care of him & loved on him & he was thrown into a drug addled violent home with people who didnt properly care for him. This sweet innocent little baby deserved so much better than these monsters.
I hate this world, too!
@tammy hall may I ask do you believe in Jesus...?
you know you need more training to be a hair stylist than a parent. there should be laws and testing done on parents. Although, here clearly are a bunch of ignorant goonies they could have easily given the baby up at the hospital and go back to there drug bingeing lifestyle. they didnt need to swing Dylan in the air by his leg and throw him against the wall then stomp on him. this is the only way he could have that many injuries. there is clearly more to the story no one is telling. A dream catcher huh? no way!!
I dont think a shoplifting charge is the elephant in this room
More like the mouse in the room.
@Kim Morgan TRUTH!! YOU SHOULD BE AN ATTORNEY!! 😂
Pfffffffft you’re not kidding! What a statement for his lawyer to make 🤦🏻♀️ the state attorney is the only one I don’t want to punch. Lol
Frankly I think the elephant in the room is this lying piece of crap in a green shirt. His idiot attorney is feeding him his lies! What sort of a father accuses his own son of essentially lying about the urine samples he provided🤷♀️
Far from it. Typical lawyer for the defense..
My husband would notice a mosquito bite on our children! This is sickening! I feel nauseous everytime he opens his mouth to lie.
@Michelle doe he knew the child wasn't ok and he didn't do nothing about it to keep the CPS from testing his wife's urine, it's not rocket science, we know what's up!!
Khokhi H...Totally agree with everything you said
@@healthyscents I think he didn't say anything because she was not supposed to be there unless supervised. Supervised means in the presence at all times of the one supervising which clearly he was not.
@Michelle doe were not actually talking about mosquito bites on the baby.. this was bruises and broken bones on this baby. He would have had to be deaf, dumb and BLIND to have not noticed his child was being abused.. gimme a freaking break!! 😡
@Native Nfree My ex changed a diaper when I made him. He wouldn't have noticed anything either. I sure would of course. When my kids were in daycare I checked them out every evening!
I never trusted anyone but me with my babies!
I know these "monsters" were wrong, but when is CPS going to start being held accountable? This is ridiculous
My thoughts exactly. Cps is there to protect kids when their families won't and they obviously did not protect him and neither did the people we are supposed to trust to keep children and infants safe
Agreed 💯
Yes I agree and the baby died right after CPS left. DHR and CPS are scandalous and drive families crazy. They probably after the hospital drugged her up real good being in the system.
Cps gets away with a lot! I am tryin to change those laws and I’m glad ppl like u see it!! They never do what’s best for the children and when a child is murdeted and cps is involved they should be charged as well
Yes
The baby should have never , ever left the hospital with a drug addict...
He didn’t! He went to Foster care and Child Services returned him.
@@crawleyr4919 Yes, but poor baby Dylan was there only for abt 12 days. He should have been allowed to stay in that safe, loving, cosy home until his tiny system was completely drug-free. Also, of course, not until Both his parents had been monitored, assessed and deemed fit to care and keep him safe from harm of any kind.
@@redmarilynn yep- they should also be held accountable. I was a Public Health Nurse- CPS ALWAYS brought out a nurse with them if a baby was missing appts. I’m so angry
@@crawleyr4919 IKR. Why, why did CPS - after finding him a safe loving environment - not leave him there longer. The daily pain Little Dylan suffered must have been excruciating.
@@redmarilynn it’s unthinkable! Now I’m watching the trial of Chris McNabb and Courtney Bell- 2 other monsters that killed their baby. I guess I’m a glutton for pain watching this stuff... (taking break from politics, lol)
The baby weighed 4.5 lbs at 2 months, and the CPS worker didnt take him with her?
The system failed this child.
No, he weighed about 9 pounds. The weight you are referring to was after they pulled him out of the well and his body had loss mass due to deterioration.
@@DizzKola3 WRONG. His actual weight was 5lbs 4 oz
Yeah because our CPS system sucks!
My baby weighed that much.... The Dr told me they don't usually let premature babies go at this weight but she was doing everything she was supposed to. So, it just depends on the situation.
CPS adores severe child abusers and hates non abusers. It's a one way street with CPS.
I’m grateful that Baby Dylan had Andrea Bowling in his life for what little time he had...to experience TRUE love and caring that he so greatly deserved 💕 😔
Yes, me too. It is devastating to hear how the poor baby was suffering from drug withdrawal. Thank God he was comforted for a little while with the kindness and love of his foster mother. May his poor soul Rest In Peace.
I'm a huge nightclub bouncer n usually pretty emotionless. but this thing has got me choking back tears. this little baby had twelve days of love from a foster carer an that was all the love he ever knew 💔
Andrea Bowling is an Angel!! You can tell she lived that baby the way she was so torn up! Just so sad! Those parents should have never been given Dylan back!!
Wish Dylan had stayed with Andrea.I couldn't foster knowing that the baby would be handed to monsters.These babies don't have to die.This is never acceptable.If you do meth,get sterilized.
@@beardedloon77 I agree 💯 percent.
If only Dylan had been able to stay with his Foster mummy, Andrea Bowling. He would be a healthy, happy and truly loved little boy right now 💙🕊💔
Omg Andrea thank you for your pain
I am an addict in recovery from everything and I may have nodded in and out,woke up sleep walking, stayed up for seven days straight at one point and I still remember who, what and where ...fine details are blurry. But the bigger stuff that occurred I haven’t forgotten. Sober since 2012
God bless you and keep you. Happy New Year friend!!
This is so true!! No matter how strung out you are you know what is happening generally. Sequences and times and dates blur but not the framework
Congratulations 🥳 Proud of you! From Australia 🇦🇺
Congrats Laurie! I have 27 years clean, unfortunately 30 years an addict which means I raised children while on drugs. I managed to go clean while pregnant and for at least a year after. It was mainly meth. As I was terrified my children would be taken i managed to maintain for years but still my children suffered. They always do. My greatest grief was the facing the lie of being a good mother. My greatest joy is being a grandmother in recovery and assisting my children. I'm so proud of you. Your life is just beginning.
@@s.v.2796 wow.. we have a ton in common..Thank you so much, I Wanna get back at you later
A couple hours after a social worker visited him he died ?! These social workers need punishment they're literally not examining children not following their guts and failing kids !!!
I was a public health nurse that often accompanied CPS workers out to homes so that I could examine a baby who has missed appts! Ohio needs to take a good look at this.
Yes, lots of them are but NOT ALL. They’ve got TONS of work and very little pay - the burn out is the worst. As I said in another post: Pay case managers even HALF of what is paid to entertainers & athletes, and take care of human beings!!! Our cultural priorities are effed up.
@Michelle Nash That’s one HUGE sweeping generalization you’re making, there.
I know from watching trials in my home state of Georgia that CPS is required to physically examine the child, down to a diaper change, of all kids they have to make home visits on. I’m not sure why this isn’t a rule in Ohio.
There's NO way that this baby could've had all these injuries, bruises and marks without the dad or cps seeing or knowing it!! Especially just having been there couple hours before he got MURDERED!! Cps is guilty also!
I hope their 15 yr old son has found some peace and healing...and is able to move on without them in his life. Poor kid! 😞
POOR KID?????? YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING. HIS WHOLE LIFE HAS BEEN TURNED UPSIDE DOWN. HIS PARENTS ARE MURDERERS. MY GOD! WAKE UP.
I pray for this older son to be able to put his life together, and find peace and love forever. It sounds like his aunt and uncle will help him to heal.
What is wrong with you?
@@conniesabatka9925 I hope you are no longer mentally unstable.
With 15 years 😢😢he will never be healed 😢😢😢
I've had two broken ribs and the pain was pretty bad. Poor baby Dylan, so much pain and nobody to comfort him 😭
I had 3 broken ribs (#8, 9, and 10). I was in agony for 5 months. I can’t imagine how a helpless little baby would feel.
I think social services should be up there on trial with them.
AMEN. Couldn't agree more!
Same with the judges who declare the child is no longer in danger and to return the poor children home, and government who cuts so much funding so social workers are over worked and have too many caseloads to properly focus on the high needs cases
@@ecb1979yes, the funds are given to astronauts to go to moon, stars, clouds, galaxies, milky way and to other unnamed planets to look over you, so that America can become great again
Sound like the foster mom is going to try to fight for changes
ABSOLUTELY!!!
Poor little guy, hurt badly, crying & no one to help or comfort him. This breaks my heart.
Cary Ulmer that is the saddest thing I’ve ever heard 😪
Its sickening. I do not see why we even give them food or water. Nothing. Thats what they deserve. Throw them off a cliff or something painful and absolutely free to taxpayers.
:( heart breaking.
I think he knows about brusing how could he not know
😔Wow, that is so so awful, I pictured your words and ouch, so heartbreaking. So incredibly sad.
That poor baby. OMG.
"I'm gonna go ahead and talk about an incident that has happened in your life... get the elephant out of the room"
... Ma'am, *shoplifting* was certainly not the elephant...
She's incompetent and weak, which is fine given she's the defence lawyer. She probably has quarterly exorcisms.
Ok so i’m not the only one that thought “THATS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM TO YOU?!?!?!?”
@@kaylabeth7286 Every sentence she uttered was shameful.
@@hilaryc3203 m a m k²©
Beauty I thought the same thing
I'm so happy Daniel and Jessica decided to testify. They really showed their true colors and we and the jury saw thru their lies. They deserve the same amount of compassion as they showed their baby boy which is zero.
Right? They were all about themselves, crying cuz they were in jail, not one tear shed for their baby.
Were these new attorneys? I mean, new as lawyers?
@@niania7022I think both their attorneys were horrible, especially Daniels. She kept asking the same questions the State Attorney asked😳. I never seen the first tear fall from Jessica's eyes, she completely wasted a whole box of Kleenex that we the tax payers paid for since neither of them worked 😠😡🤬. I say lock them up, nah better yet give them the same treatment they gave Baby Dylan.
Especially Jessica. Wow
Always great when the defendants are the best witnesses for the prosecution
The infant did not “pass away” he was murdered.
THANK YOU!
That was the FIRST thing out of my mouth!! There's a difference...
Just wish they would “remember” how it happened
They remember what they want. And yes he is responsible!!! The court made him guardian, and he saw her hit the child. It would never have happen if she wasn't in the home. One hit she should of been gone.
@@kathleenanderson4876 maybe he suspected it was a love tap Idek honestly he apparently never thought she would do something like that because of how she was with there first child
Just in my opinion, she keeps crying, but I don't believe she is crying for Dylan - I think she's crying because they got caught.
Well said ! I agree !!
Not one damn real tear! Sorry excuse for a mother.
true. and it didn't even seem like it was real crying
Dope sick, postpartum depression and a newborn dont mix. Period. She should've left that baby at the hospital and never looked back.
I don’t even believe her tears are real she can be crying one minute then quite aggressively say she can’t remember how that poor baby got his injuries but if she is crying your right it’s tears for herself! What a sad sad case 😢
I cannot wrap my head around how many people failed this child🤬 in my opinion they should all be held accountable!!!!
Can you even imagine torturing a defenseless little 2 month old baby! It’s just heartbreaking! I’m crying just imagining what that poor baby went through! The people that are supposed to be loving him....killing him! How dare they even get to breathe the air!
In a way I'm glad baby Dylan is not on this earth today. Not the way he went though. It's a lot to imagine what more pain he would've endured every extra day if he was still here. The parents deserve what's coming.
?? 2 months old & 4.5 lbs?? Wow !! I heard the wt but not the age until now
Very upsetting
The cry of a baby in pain is deafening. As a parent you would KNOW that clearly something was WRONG!
@@joycemckennon exactly!
This guy is liar. He's blaming it on his wife but he's just as guilty
He sure is
He is worse in my eyes blaming it all on his wife. He was the one who was suppose to be looking after dilan in his care, she was not allowed to live at home
He should be jailed for stupidity aside from the main charges
How are we the only ones who know hes a liar. Just look at his body language, especially his eyes. Also if we look at his antecedent crimes and wrong doings, there are all centered around being dishonest to law enforcement and to CPS even before the crime happened. He’s deceitful and this in itself is proof that he has no trouble lying. Also, his sons urine sample that he “gave to his friend “ is a clear and obvious sign. He thinks that if he admits a smaller deception or less grandeur, they will believe him to be truthful. he is a liar, as are most addicts and I hope they both rott in jail
Exactly. If he felt his baby was threatened in anyway he should have reported it. Now he’s just blaming his wife for everything. He lived there, he could have stopped her from killing the baby.
I am a 17 year old with a 15 month old, and I’ve had my share of struggles and frustrations, but my daughter is the best thing that’s ever happened to me. These people never loved Dylan and it had nothing to do with drugs, simply there lack of parental morals.
Devon keep being a good parent. Children must be protected at all costs. Do not trust anyone with your child that's new in your life, please be careful. Im proud of you you can do this!
good luck!
raise that little girl good, we believe in you :)
It's the drugs. It makes you lose your morals and kills your Spirit which makes you not have any guilt of wrong doing.
How is everything are u coping okay?
Connie Sabatka- There are many drug addicts who don’t beat or kill their children. The majority cause self harm.
This guy is unbelievable. He knows exactly what happened. Disgusting waste of life. CPS needs to be investigated for sure. They failed that baby.
I agree with you , the so called father knows exactly what happened his just as guilty as he's wife is !
I hope you are not a social worker
I agree! Lay Crisis Counselor/First Responder/Foster/Adopt parent 45yrs in Seattle area!
@@colleenshea2293A couple hours after Social Workers were there Baby Dillon died! 🤔 Yep trust them!
Wow you're pretty
If he thought the baby had just died...not due to injuries or murder..then why not call 911?
The wife she would blame him for the entire death and he didn’t want to get I trouble
@@amberpetty4390 He was a battered man!
Because he knew the cause of death was beating, that's why. He's lying in court.
He claims they had bad cell service. He also says Jessica badgered him that he would be blamed for everything because he had custody of the baby... which is true. He had custody and endangered his welfare by allowing Jessica around him. Part of me believes some of his story but then he starts talking about how Dylan never had any injuries and it flies right out the window. Your child’s arm was broken in multiple places, his leg was broken, and you were bathing your baby, changing your baby, and you didn’t know that? Impossible.
Exactly. Any caring, loving, compassionate parent would do the obvious thing.
Last time I checked, when you "smack" somebody, you are _HITTING_ someone.
I wouldve asked him to define the difference!
@@LikelyLeikin
It's just Ridiculous if you think about it...
Smacking, slapping, etc.
It's all a form of hitting.
Whether you're actually using your fist or your palm, you're still "hitting" the other person with a part of your body.
Goose An infant! Who would strike an infant?
@@amethystdawn9476
Hitting anybody is wrong, unless it's self defense! Period!
Goose who smacks a two month old in the head!!!🤬🤬🤬
This precious infant baby was brutalized. The baby should NEVER have left the hospital with these parents, especially giving the Mother daytime visits supervised by the husband. Children's Protective Services failed this baby miserably as they do with so many cases. There is so much guilt in this case - just unbelievable.
He didn’t leave the hospital with them. He had a very loving foster mom who took him and had him for the first 12 days of his life. Then he was ripped away from her and given to these 2 monsters by CPS. It makes the entire thing that much worse. They MISERABLY failed him and should be held accountable. He had someone who truly loved him and was able to care for him but instead he was tortured to death because of CPS’s decision.
@@Ash-kb9hn. Really poor baby this could have been prevented
She’s a monster!
@@marjurypatriciacapizzi ....The husband is just as much to blame as she is.
One is as guilty as the other, one did it, the other allowed it.
I totally agree Diamond
CPS is also at fault!
I agree with you
Aided and abetted.
She should have had an abortion, then they wouldn't have gotten in trouble. 😊
Kids can be troublesome, mom should have known better.
There is no way they are together for 24 years, both have histories of drug use and he didn't know she was using. He's lying. I highly suspect they were using together
Of course they were! There is a lot that prosecutor never even asked that I’m curious about. What did they tell their 14yo about where the baby went?
Gee! Do you think? Lol
An addict can pick a user a mile away.
@@crawleyr4919 so much! The prosecutors left so much opened. It was not very detailed oriented at all.
Hello Brittabug,
You are correct.
Both has used drug together.
Mom and dad are pathetic.
He is a liar.
How can he not seen the bruises on the baby's body.
When he said he was giving the pee to a friend I knew I was going to be watching him lie for an hour and 30 minutes 🙄
😂😂😂 I'm not laughing 😂😂😂
I am not laughing either😅😅😅
Right 😐🥴
Why though? Have you ever had to be tested and/or heard, seen, participated in getting around said testing? Cause I have and it's not easy to fool them, the only way is to use a pricey contraption and someone else's clean urine.
I wonder why he didn’t just give his friend his own urine sample?
Disgusting how organisations that are meant to protect children, fail them so miserably!!!
CPS is a joke and has been for decades.
First of all, if this baby was born with drugs in his system, the baby is removed from his or her family's home. Therefore the baby should not have been released with his Mom and Dad until he was out of woods from withdrawal 's from these drugs. Why didn't the hospital keep him? In so much as the Mom and Dad had been doing Methanmetiphine during her pregnancy and the baby being born with this drug in his system why was the child not taken from the parents,placed in foster care and for the forseeable future until they got clean themselves? This is not in anyway excusing what the Mom did intentionally or unintentionally but the hospital dropped the ball.
CPS is there to protect the government and to help prosecute crimes. They pick and choose whom they serve in accordance with their yearly budget. Protecting children is pretty far down on the list of their priorities.
If i believed my baby died from SIDS.. why would i bundle him up and throw him down a well??? This guy is unbelievable!
When I was nearly 4, my baby sister died of SIDS. This father is despicable. He has no genuine grief let alone trauma about the murder of the baby and his statements are ridiculous. There is no excuse for not calling 911 except this drug abuser didn't want anyone to find the broken bones nor the fractured skull of the baby.
Yeah and when did SIDS cause broken bones and bruises???????????????
I honestly believe when the autopsy photos were being shown in court, those two POS should have been FORCED to see every last one of them so they never forget what they did to that poor little angel's body.
I totally agree 👍
YES they should of forced them to look, all those poor people on the jury have to see them how awful must that be so yeah the least they could do is look at the damage they caused to that poor defenceless baby.
How could he even answer the question about if the childs head looked bruised at death the same as it looked in the autopsy photos. His answer was no but when they were showing the photos in court his eyes were closed with his fingers over his eyes. He's lying.
@@karenwood2615 absolutely agree.
Wouldn’t matter. They are psychopaths so it wouldn’t faze them whatsoever.
Why was a talking, walking 15 years removed by cps and a helpless baby left?
The baby was missing. They wanted to pick him up, too, but he was missing and the parents were not communicating with CPS.
They had went to take both children but Dylan was already dead and missing
@@clairenisbet5869 had GONE, not had went.
Maybe you should look at all the trails on dylan case you would know instead of asking this.
@@lionswimmer4637 get a life please
He admitted to seeing her hit/slap their newborn baby and did nothing!! After that (arguably well before) it should have been GAME. OVER. Period. There is zero excuse, zero justification and zero reason for EVER striking a newborn baby. And he said “yes I saw that but it wasn’t enough to cause those injuries” disgusting and total negligence in every way 😡
I missed or haven't heard the part yet about him seeing her hit the baby! To an infant!? Horrible
A CPS WORKER SAW THIS BABY BEFORE HE DIED THE SAME DAY. JESUS
She started to cry in her testimony but then got defensive. 😡 she may not be employed any longer
@@crawleyr4919 I do not think she should be
She didn’t see the baby properly . 😡
If she had she would have seen the trauma.
I hope she feels bad for the rest of her life.
He was probably dead when she seen him
@@crawleyr4919 that's was when she said march 28.
Who smacks a newborn regardless?!?!
EXACTLY. There is not a single thing ANYONE could EVER say to justify that!
I have two kids and I know how hard and frustrating it can be, but no amount of frustration could ever make me hurt my children. Ever. This is sickening.
A monster that’s who 😑😔
@@shawnabarnett7008 girl I'm with you... My baby had colic when she was first born and it drove me absolutely bonkers....I just had to let her cry and comfort her.. That's all u can do...I could never imagine harming my sweet baby...
I am afraid to hold one..they are so fragile. People are sick.
omg he smacks the baby 😭
She crying because she is going in prison and will be separated from her husband. Also crying because she need drugs
she.ll get drugs in jail. she will also be beat for this.
@@amandabialkowski9131 yep
She’ll get dealt with in prison. Everyday I hope!
@@amandabialkowski9131 nope people in prison that care about their kids and can't even see them kill b****** like this
Turned off and on the fake tears
That must have been so hard for foster mum to stay throughout this trial. She is an amazing good hearted woman
She may just have you fooled as well.
@@pamelamorris3148 why would you say that?
@@pamelamorris3148 and why would you feel that way?? She loved that baby and stopped her life and took off of work to be there for him...... really why do you think that?
@@pamelamorris3148 Is there something you know about her that we don't know?
@@pamelamorris3148 ????
Either way they are both guilty.
The foster mother should have been able to keep baby Dylan.
This is EXACTLY why I couldn't be a foster mom😪
He might be alive today
So let's see: Daniel didn't know his wife was doing drugs. Didn't know she was pregnant. Didn't know she was missing prenatal appointments. Didn't know she was not going to Majahgen or drug rehab or continuing her drug use. Didn't know she was beating their son to death. We all know he knew EVERYTHING because he could not stand up to her and whatever she said or wanted or told him to do he would do. He got her drugs. He let her harm Dylan.
yup...because he was seeing it, hearing it and gosh darn, he was probably beating it too....but CPS was more concearned with re-uniting then protecting, it should be called child/parent reunification, not child protective services.. not whats in the best interest of the child..
He didnt call 911 when he found his baby cause he didnt want them to see his bashed in skull and broken shattered limbs!! He knew that baby died from obvious visual injuries! You're not fooling anyone bud
If they didn’t want the baby, had no intention of caring for him, why not give him up to someone who would love him?
$ they killed him and kept receiving benefits for him I'm 100,000% sure
@@deeniegrana6512 EBT, medicaid, and welfare benefits, I'm sure. That poor baby was nothing more than a paycheck for these two murderous druggies.
The foster mother cared deeply for Dylan. She should've been allowed to adopt him.
I will never understand that.
@@deeniegrana6512 They didn't have enough time to collect any benefits before they were arrested.
You took a premature baby with drug withdrawal out to your work shed in the middle of winter in Ohio to “change his environment?” What?
Oh and that made him stop crying... this guy was planning on killing this baby the whole time
@@phyllysanantonio what's that she puts her finger on?
@@lenas5613 mute button on their mic
Seriously. All his testimony is waaaay out there.
Let me just say this if I ever were to walk in on my husband hitting/shaking our son it would be the last thing he ever did.
Yes! Same here. I catch anybody hurting my children and I'm going for blood.
I can not understand how this father sits there & answer's all these questions about his sweet little infant being broken & killed & Not ONE Tear!!!! Unfathomable!!!!
After he looked at his psychotic wife crying he immediately tried to fake it as well.
ONLY THINKING OF THE BAG OF METH AT HOME WAITING FOR HIM
People grieve in different ways. Not everyone shows emotion by crying.
Can someone just give her a hearing aid, she's literally the only person that can't hear.
That's what I was thinking 🤣
She's old 😂😂😂
@@JG-bi3he NOOOOOOOO she is just stupid and dithery
That's what I was thinking too
NO! If I could afford hearing aids, I wouldn't be reading movies!
He calls Dylan “the child.” This man doesn’t give a crap about his baby.
I was going to write that same thing
What is the time stamp when he said that?
Just wondering im not taking his side at all but the only time i heard anything like that was around the 5 min mark
@@jerrywhat4799 around 53:40 he says it, but thats only something I just caught now.
You would think if you're spending that much time with a baby you would bond to it more than "the child" 🙄 but idk, he could be disssociating or trying to approach it clinically to remain calm or something
Cardinal rule: you can never.. and I mean never - trust that a drug addict or alcoholic is telling the truth.
Dylan had to be crying constantly. She broke his bones.
O Comino Yes so heartbreaking
I bet that baby was screaming, not just crying! Can you imagine having those fractures and just crying?
It's so so sad 😭 breaking bones,babies bones are soft,so a lot of force was used! How on a 4 lb baby? How!!!!!!!????????
Maybe the drugs found in his body were maybe given to make him stay quite.
@@jdodd2798 yeah....so much pain and absolutely no way to make it better...can't talk to anyone.
As someone who struggled with infertility and was not able to get pregnant this case just makes me literally sick to my stomach. When we adopted our daughter I spent the whole first night awake watching my daughter sleep. She kept making little noises and I was worried. I wanted to be awake if there was a problem. These two are monsters.
You are a wonderful mom and your daughter is very lucky ❤
I can't figure out why so many people who want children are infertile and vice versa. I personally know a terrible mother and she has 7 biological children. I don't have any kids but I have lots of rescue animals.
So happy for you to have a precious daughter to love and be loved in return.
Did they get death penalty?
@@szatanowska no
Why were they able to take the baby home knowing Jessica tested positive for drugs?
@OhHell_TooTheNo Gee im a nurse..it was the firat question in my mind. Lets start from the beginning ya know? If he were never allowed to leave with a drug addicted mother he would still be alive!!
She apparently was not meant to be living in the address when he returned home with their baby
The dad was testing “negative” for drugs so they gave him the okay to have Dylan and as for the mom they ordered for her to go to therapy and classes and she wasn’t allowed to be living in the house or around Dylan until they saw improvement but they clearly cheated the system and the system let them
In New Orleans I had a friend give birth to a baby she said she didn’t know she was pregnant. Both her and the baby tested positive for drugs and the baby ended up in the nicu. They were willing to let her take that baby home with her (after she got out of the nicu) alone as long as she took some drug classes and there was a representative (friend or family - she was going to pick her drug addicted boyfriend) that would check in on them every week and sign off that they were doing ok.... this happens everyday it’s heartbreaking.
The nurses’ testimonies describe that women give birth to drug addicted babies daily, and that’s in one hospital. I can’t imagine how many more children would be wards of the state if they weren’t allowed to go home with parents who are using, but which is better? Both the state and addicted parents are apathetic caretakers with no regimented schedule or ability to help a child thrive.
I truly hope they are being treated accordingly by the other inmates
Paul Flores who murdered Ms Smart, was beaten badly in prison just recently so jail house justice still lives.
They can't escape GOD'S Justice!
@@cristineconnell7803 They can't escape the beatings they will receive from the inmates. If you think god has that kind of control why didn't god protect Dylan?
@@cristineconnell7803You’re so right
Amen!
He sure gets assertive when being cross-examined but can’t stand up to his wife?
Excellent point.
100%! Spot on !
My thoughts exactly
He knew his wife was doing drugs while pregnant. To me that is involvement.
Complicit in the crime.
I’m sure he was right there doing drugs with her!
Her body her choice right?
@@ringsofsaturnn6153 I don’t know if you are being serious or sarcastic but when someone is pregnant it’s not their body. It’s two. The baby inside has no choice. It’s both of their jobs to protect that baby and they both failed.
@@pamelasmith6221 the point is there is nothing to be done.. the unborn have no legal rights.. that is how a large portion of the country wants it.. sick but true.. she can literally throw it in the trash and there is nothing dad can do.
He should have kept his lieing mouth shut. He takes no responsibility for anything. He is as guilty as she is.
Candy Chazel
Huh?
Candy Chazel Are you on crack? That made no sense
ooofff TRUE THAT!
@@EYE_GOTCHA she meant after 24yrs marriage he stabbed her in the back!
Lieing?? Its spelt Lying! Not meant to nit pick, for some reason I always spell with.... withe!? I have a masters in English Literature!😂🙋♀️🕊
Years ago when my grandson was a running toddler, I was taking him and my granddaughter, his twin sister to a local "Play Land" for kids. On the way he unbuckled his car seat harness, crawled up on the flat deck under the rear window. I pulled over, scolded him and buckled him back in. The fourth time I had to pull over to buckle him in, I took him out of his car seat and paddled his butt over a thick huggie. It didn't happen again, and we had a great time. My grandson is now a 6 foot 16 year old. I'm now 67, and have literally been upset to tears over it all these years. He laughed and says he doesn't remember it, but I do. How this couple could beat their baby to death is beyond my ability to comprehend it.
I feel terrible for the older brother. Im sure he is traumatized, confused, angry, and depressed. Imagine having to testify against your parents for murdering your bany brother and discarding him like a piece of trash. So sad.
Same as that I feel really awful for that poor boy I’m sure he has saw so much pain and neglect his whole life I actually dread to think what these children in these households go through. His mother and father destroyed his life I so hope he is somewhere where he gets a good shot at life.
I pray as well that he can remain with his aunt and uncle prayerfully they’re going to give him the love he needs and getting him some help with some type of therapy because he’s going to need someone to help him cope with all this.
And then be essentially called a liar by said parents.
There's no way this kid hasn't been traumatized in that home with parents addicted to hard drugs.
I keep wondering who cared for him in the chaos of days after the hospital birth. Where was child services for him during those 3 months after the baby was returned to Sr’s custody.
Why the heck don’t they give everyone a microphone since everyone seems deaf
Sorry, I couldn't hear your comment. CAN YOU SPEAK UP SO THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK CAN HEAR
I think they actually need a megaphone!!
😂😂😂
Seriously.. that drive me crazy!
The Judge is an idiot for letting that go on.
I feel like every single time he says “absolutely” or “absolutely not” he’s LYING 🤥
It’s an Ohio thing. All of my aunts respond that way. Drives me batty
AGREE
Exactly! It's like when someone answers your question with your question: Do you think you made mistakes? Do I think I made mistakes, yes...BUT...
And also when someone says "honestly" before they answer a question.
That is actually a tell tale sign he is lying. That and when they say things like Can not or did not. Moat people use contractions and don't place emphasis on things when telling the truth
It's really common, the detective does it too all the time.
Daniel exhibits no empathy, warmth or love for Dylan as he is cross examined. His testimony really helped put the last nail in his coffin. Their strategy of making him come off as an innocent bystander failed completely. He really showed his true colors.
When the lawyer was asking the father about the injuries to the baby, the father was so emotionless. He was talking about fractures and bruising and yet he didn't shed a tear.
That was completely creepy to watch. “Where were you when your baby was dying?!” “Outside or around the house I guess.” Ugh!!! No emotions. No remorse. “No I didn’t fail to protect my son.” I’m.... what????!!!!!! Piece of garbage!!!!
No emotion
Also when his wife testified. He hardly looked at her. He did this. Healing fracture? Poor baby must have been in horrible pain.
Defence Lawyer: "When the baby passed away". HE did not pass away, this innocent baby was violently murdered!! How can you protect these evil People, how do you sleep at night!
If I am not mistaken these lawyers don't get to choose if the want to defend or not.
They are assigned through the state.
And so even if the don't want to defend according to law they have to give relevant arguments and make best of the situation. I am not sure, i think this is the case here. That's how things work here in Sweden at least.
Honestly i don't think any human being would actually want to help this couple from the bottom of their hearts due to the heartbreakingly cruel crime they have committed.
@@monirarasekh1144 you're 100% correct. The same is true for here in the USA. Very rarely are they ever permitted not to take the case.
Also, these lawyers believe everybody deserves fair defense. I'm sure she's defended some people who were legitimately innocent. Regardless, it has to be such a difficult job.
I’d imagine she sleeps in a nice, big, expensive lawyer bed. And that’s how she keeps protecting trash; she gets paid well to do so
@@Katerina-xf3gj hahahaha these are public defenders. They are the lowest paid attorneys. And they work to give everyone a fair defense as are the rights of the legal system. But they don't get to chose their cases and have to provide a legal defense. Also if they don't try the case will go to a mistrial and they people will be released. And/or it will cost the taxpayers more money for a trial and legal defense. It is the law they try and they don't get to chose
They would be high as hell right now if they were not caught they are crying for themselves
Soooo TRUE
my exact thoughts!😓
So true
Sandy Trantham,sooo true and the fact I have Not Seen Him Cry Once for his baby,ONLY Her and it's because she wants sympathy from him and others!!! They Both make me sick SMFH😠🤢😠
@Andrew Orahoske believe me there are plenty drugs in prison.
Did anyone watch the last 10 minutes of this? They were in recess but the camera kept recording Jessica and Daniel with no sound. For what seems like the first time he talks to her. She really truly starts crying. And yes, I completely believe the crying is for herself, for the situation she is in. But even without sound it's incredible to see them. His body language and facial clues are totally pulling away from her. While she looks like she wants to grab him and hold on. Whatever he keeps telling her, probably "We are screwed. We are going to jail forever ", is really getting to her. In the end he does put his arm around her and pats her shoulder, looks like he said something soothing, and withdrew. It's so interesting to watch them, even without sound.
But, I'd pay big money to read what she's been writing on that freaking yellow notepad! Lol
He's full crap nobody can be this blind to what was going on in his own home. He did nothing to protect his baby
Because he himself was high as well!
@@ceecee333 I understand what your saying but the bruising how can he miss that
@@hollyberry2752 He is lying like a rug ! Lol
Nothing to protect the baby is different than actually doing the murder. The CPS knew of this issue and did nothing to protect the baby either.
@@trailtrs1 very true
Why the hell are they allowed to sit there together and communicate with each other??
JusticeAA did not know that about the law.
Remmus ‘ and no handcuffs around waist or like Jody a shock belt
I was wondering the same thing ...you say this and I'll say that. .......?There is no way that after living together more than 20 years that you don't know that your partner was using and abusing....he is certainly lying.
I'm surprised by that too. Even if they are codefendants, you don't usually see that in court. I don't think it should be allowed, but I guess that's are lovely justice system. She keeps writing notes to him!
@@lovepet4565 No. That will come at the end after the verdict.
He should have never tried to covered for the wife by wrapping and dumping that precious baby into a well. He has to pay for doing this.
And I have the feeling that he feels because he didnt "Kill"the baby that his crime is somehow less than hers.
Your right although he didn’t kill him he didn’t do the right thing and protect him when he was alive let alone in death poor poor baby 😢🙏
Tragically, the authorities might have believed he hurt the baby as she threatened him to tell them he did it. She has the tears and "poor me" act very well rehearsed. It just doesn't work with a dead baby thrown down a well and him not taking her garbage anymore. It would have been far better if he had called 9-1-1 when Dylan died and taken his chances with the truth. In that way, most of those charges would not have been filed and he would not be spending most of the rest of his life in prison. She sure did a number on him convincing him they would believe her!!!
Glenna Rose I think your right...they probably would have believed her. Bottom line, the best thing he could have done was left that baby safe and sound with the foster mom. They have sought return of custody only once they were both completely off drugs, out of the criminal lifestyle, and gainfully employed with the resources to love and care for Dylan well. How sad that a beautiful baby like that wasn’t enough to make them want to make a positive change in their lives.
He was protecting himself because he watched her beat that baby Dylan and did nothing.
Drug addiction destroys families and society.
that fake crying the whole way through rubbing those tissues on her face must be raw from rubbing the sociopath dry eyes
The last 15 minutes of her fake crying!! I have never seen anyone cry that long without wiping tears coming out the eyes, she must be the only human monster that can cry through her nose! Seen her wipe her eyes 2 times. She's wiping her dry nose with the same tiseue!! FAKE CRYING TO THE MAX!
I don't think the woman is the sociopath in this couple. The fact that you see her sobbing the whole time is indicative of something else going on in her head. It very much appears that she, over the years, has tricked her brain to believe her manipulative emotional outbursts (pointing outwards) to be real emotions of the persona (pointing inwards). Jessica truly believes that what she feels is her own real sadness and remorse, but it isn't. And we recognise this difference, making her seemingly without conscience or faking emotions for effect. But in reality I think, she can not distinguish between fake and real. This is what I see and what I think of it.
She used the tissue to cover her face from embarrassment... She is a POS
I want to give her something to cry about!
He’s been gaslighted by a narcissistic witch for 24 yrs 🤯 Still he’s also responsible for Dylan’s death.
Charlon Lindström I believe your first sentence, but not your second. He was undeniably controlled by this monster!!!
yeah you're right. But he, at some point, sold his soul to the devil and it all led up to this. Life is a really insane journey. I watch Court TV and learned of so many horrid things people do to one another. It isn't like all drug addicts or homeless people or immigrants. It scares me there are people out there I might have met that seemed so "normal" and nice. Inside they might have been completely wicked.
You said it!! She's destroyed an entire family. I heard the judge say he shows no remorse, I disagree. He deserves to be punished for his part in this but the death of Dylan sits squarely on that crazy, careless bitch.
Yep yep yep yep yep
Been there done that in reverse
heaven I have to step away from it sometimes. It is scary bc these are the ppl who have been caught and are now being prosecuted.
What scares me is there are ppl at this very moment, who haven't yet done the thing. Is it my neighbor? Boyfriend? The guy in line waiting to buy the loaf of bread and milk in his hands? In my area in Hawaii, there has been a trend lately of older ladies getting robbed at gunpoint by punks. Guns crimes are in the news every week now and it was very rare before. One guy got robbed of $20 at gunpoint during the middle of the day.
Our system is like California's. We are very easy on criminals.
Daniel just doesn't get it. He is responsible for his son's horrible death by allowing Jessica to beat this baby to death. In his mind, he has no accountability.
So he was worried about “marijuana” in his pee for his “friends” test but not his own to get his son back?
His attorney says, "let's address the elephant in the room...you have a shoplifting charge from Kroger." Seriously? I really don't think stealing from Kroger is the big, unsaid thing everyone is wondering about. Both of the defense attorneys are so odd.
Exactly 🙄 nobody cares about this bum shoplifting. The elephant in the room is this horribly subservient, pathetic, weak excuse of a man participated, at the least allowed his son to be murdered.
This man is trash 🗑 and will be judged by his maker.
I'm sure they're the attorney s who are appointed when they can't afford one 😂
They do take into an account your criminal history, dear. Your character and such
His attorney is incredibly annoying!
Since I doubt these defense attorneys are privately hired - pretty sure they are court appointed, I kind of feel for them getting stuck with these two to defend - especially defending Jessica. I agree that they are annoying and really they don't have a whole lot to work with. I wonder how long they have been lawyers and what their win/loss record is. I also agree that they don't appear to be the sharpest crayons in the box.
I'm holding my baby now, crying imagining this little angel suffered at the hands of his own mother even before he was born. His dad never fought for his safety. There's no way he didn't know his wife was off her rocker. Dylan crying from broken bones would be impossible not to notice.
I'm just thankful Dylan felt love and hopefully some peace while he was with his foster mother. She loved him so much before she even knew him and got everything she needed for him with in a few hours. I can't imagine how she must feel.
11:29 his own words betrayed him. "Put urine in the cup" came out of his mouth instead of peed in the cup...👌
Good catch
I heard that as well...
Wait why does that matter
@@forscience9977 because if you were taking a urine test and actually urinating in the cup you would say, " I went in the restroom, peed in the cup, gave them the sample...etc" But he said he went in2 the restroom "put" the urine in the cup, etc... How do you put urine in the cup if you aren't depositing it from another source? It was a slip of the tongue that you would ONLY make subconsciously if you did in fact PUT it in the cup, not just pee in the cup....
Wow!! Ur right!! Ever think about being an attorney or detective??
cps should be sued for giving dylan back to them monsters
Jailed, yes they should take accountability for the baby’s murder
If Daniel had truly collected urine for his "friend" the defense could have called that "friend " to testify that what Daniel was saying was true. So my question is why would defense leave out a critical witness.
This breaks my heart, I feel so sad 😔 ... I would have loved to have been your mommy, to protect and love you... Rest in peace baby Dylan in heaven. 💙
I watched the very end, where she pretends to cry and lean to him for support, laying on his shoulder at one point, and it made me so happy to know they’d never see each other again and they’ll both be miserable and alone until they die.
Your comment is 6 months ago but I'm jus reading it
Yes I agree it's satisfying to know these two creatures can't spread their evilness on to the remaining son
She's probably going nuts not having that pathetic husband of hers around to bully and do her biddiny
What a disgusting a pair
That video footage of them after Daniel Sr testify is very telling. You can see how manipulative Jessica is. She gets what she wants from Daniel by crying. She tried that when she was on the stand but no one was buying it. If not for the actions of Jessica Groves Dylan would be alive. I wonder if they thought ahead enough to have a name picked out before he was born.
@@benitasmith2840
You are so right also imo she probably has been scheming and bullying people forever it's amazing how the toxic pair thought bcuz they had gotten away with all their lies to CPS and everybody that they could do the same with the court and jury Daniel is pathetic he was on the stand making a fool of himself with his lies and explanations all to protect her he didn't realize he was digging a hole for himself
Yes. Watching that interaction afterwards was very telling. Jessica is such a manipulator! All that crying was for nobody but herself.
Thank you for this comment because it just made me feel so much better
So he changed the baby Dylan's diapers and didn't notice a leg broken thru and thru, an arm broken thru and thru and broken ribs??? He didn't realize the baby was in extreme pain when he changed him? WHAT A HUGE LIAR!
A smack is hitting! Really?! "I did not say hitting, I said a smack" - He gets ten years just for that statement!
This baby was two months old. You don’t smack an infant
You don't smack any child but a baby is disgusting and vile.
This is why defense attorneys tell you not to testify
She actually thinks she’s a young pretty woman and the jury will have compassion for her! Karma will get you bitch!
@@Midge0314 Well, she controlled her husband for over twenty years, what's a little jury?
@@Midge0314 Far far from pretty. Inside or out! Don't know what mirrors she's been looking in
Dallen pretty?!?!?
As a defendant you can make 3 decisions 1. Take a Plea Deal if one is offered 2. Jury or bench trial 3. If you want to testify on your behalf.
He doesn’t seem like a grieving father. It just seems like he is trying to save himself.
NO EMOTIONS! Monster.
That’s what I’m saying!! All of his replies are selfpreservation
Could it be he is drained if a emotions?
She was sick, he protected her out of fear
All manipulation....
He claims he didn't think she would harm Dylan but he saw with his own eyes she would and could hurt him. He testified HE SAW HER HIT HIM AND SHAKE HIM!! So he just thought she wouldn't hurt him continually!? What a load of bs.
All these people that had part in child services that made the decision to give that baby back to these dopeheads should all be fired.. they should not be making decisions for any child!! This baby’s death is on them along with these parents ..the system is so broken! This is heartbreaking ..
Agreed
Right! Either they are giving children back to parents that they shouldn't be, or they are taking children from parents when they should not be! The whole CPS system is a mess and should not be trusted.
!!!
What changed from the day Dylan was born and the time he was given to those people called parents ,nothing had changed CPS what were they thinking!!!!!
Social worker here...I can’t speak for the specific worker on the case and they have admitted to mishandling the case but, I just want to say that the courts hold all of the power in what happens to children and when they are moved. We give input but I can’t tell you how many times a judge has gone against my recommendation. The system as a whole is awful but workers can only do so much. I know that’s not what anyone wants to hear when it comes to children’s lives but it’s the truth.
Why doesn’t someone ask him who the baby was left with every time he claims to be out doing odd jobs?
Exactly! He isn't supposed to leave baby Dylan unattended with the "mother"
The baby was left with Jessica. These injuries, trauma didn’t happen on one occasion.
@@noreenespinoza824 yeah everyone understands that lol. The question was saying why didn't anyone in the court room ask that cuz it seems to have a big missed opportunity in the trial. Make him explain himself and get caught up in the trap
When he answers questions about Jessica, he drops his eyes to avoid looking directly at anyone. This is an indication he is most likely lying.
Also when he looks down and to the left is also a sign of deception/ lie.
He’s terrified of Jessica
I have a feeling that everything he attributes to Jessica is just him projecting- for example, when he claims Jessica threatened him. He might have been threatening her and keeping her from going to appointments and/or keeping her on the drugs, for all we know. I think he may have killed the baby and she confessed in order to protect him, because the son testified that he explained the baby’s injuries, and there’s no way he could have put the baby in the well and not seen his injuries. At the very least, they’re both liars.
Omg i saw some pics of that little baby boy. He was so tiny and i can't understand how can someone hurt such a tiny swet innocent little baby boy.
Can you imagine asking your 14yr old son to pee for you for a pee test? sick. all of this.
It is actually quite common... even if the child was only asked once. If not the child, then a friend. It's the life of an addict. My mother was an addict and she made me pee in a cup for her multiple times when I was a child. She even asked me to do it for her a few years ago (early 20s). I was flabbergasted and just walked away.
It is actually very common, I went to have labs drawn at lab core & there was a man outside & he asked if I could pee in a cup for him. He offered to pay me for my pee. I was shocked! I told the lab tech & they wrote his information down.
They both did drugs, they were both guilty
Why did he want son to do pee test
@@reg8297 so the father would pass a drug test. You can see that in the pee. Sorry for the bad english.
Poor baby, to suffer is all he knew. From the womb, to his short time in this world...to his cruel departure. May his little soul rest in peace 🙏
That lawyer woman with the glasses gets on my nerves
She ain’t got a clue what she’s doing!
She's horrible... none of the questions have any meaning at all...
I cringe when she is questioning🤦♀️
Ugh I so agree! So terrible.
I believe she was trying to prove him innocent
i’ve been thinking this the whole time. i’m only in prelaw and i feel like i could’ve done better than her. (not that i would ever wanna rep this guy) all she did was make people repeat the same things and make huge stretches trying to trip up the experts.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this man offs himself as you can see he’s wrought with guilt & grief but the monster of a mom will probably outlive all of us!
I see it too
"he had dreams of his wife hitting the baby" ,Really dude? This guy is a real POS!!! There's a difference between " crying" and "excessive crying due to pain". If he was the attentive parent he should of been and did all the care for this infant that he claims he did, he would of known Exactly how Baby Dylan endured all his injuries!!! He's as GUILTY as his Wife!!! They both MURDERED this innocent baby!! They deserve the DP.
Sandi Eller yep, he will have no problem submitting himself in prison!!! I hope he gets just what Dylan got!!!
True pathological narcissists!!!! Both of them
They BOTH killed the baby!!!
A meth user never notice anything other than they are out of meth
You know that meth is prescribed for extreme ADD right? You are literally describing the opposite effect.
Is it the same with weed?
I’m not sure about the other two comments to your post, but I loved it! Spot on accuracy. Lol
@@blessieyang8070 no !
Truest statement ever.
He’s not even showing any emotion over the loss of his baby and he has the nerve to say he’s innocent!
Hes lying 🤥
I'm not saying he's innocent or telling the truth but dissociation is a real thing. I can talk about very traumatic things that have happened to me without any apparent emotion. The brain does it to protect you from the intense feelings. I don't know if that is what's happening here but I wouldn't assume if someone isn't showing emotion, that's because the person doesn't have any about the topic or is lying.
@@ginah8995 he is showing emotion. He's showing hope. He hopes he gets away with it, and the more he talks, the more confident he feels. He killed that baby.
@@burbanpoison2494 I'm not saying he didn't kill the baby. I'm saying that it isn't necessarily easy to read someone's emotions when they're in high pressure situations and/or might be dissociating. He might feel both hope and guilt. He might feel nothing - we don't know, we can only speculate. My point was that when someone isn't showing a lot or anh emotion, it can be because they're dissociating from very intense emotions. And again, not saying that's what he's doing, it's just an option to throw in there
Gotta love how All of these murderers start bawling when they’re in Court. Makes me sick!
Newsflash, Daniel: "Smacking" an infant is just as bad as "hitting" an infant. And some people are intelligent and evolved enough to never hit their children at all, at any age; instead, lovingly, patiently attending to the children in healthy ways.
When Supermom gets to her new home I hope Big Bertha “devours” her.
Yes I definitely agree with you
I know. I thought it was funny she said the prosecutor devoured her family. Interesting wording from the women who was literally murdering off lil fam members
She will.
I hope Bubba devours 'superdad' when he ends up in the big house.
With her snotty attitude, she's going to be a target.
Is anyone watching this screaming at the top of your lungs “you pathetic POS liar”!!!!! I can’t even imagine what this sweet baby went through😢. What kind of creature could do what they did to anyone, let alone a newborn baby...
It makes me so angry.
The baby was born only 5lbs something. So a tiny 3 month old :((
@@deliverhope2 absolutely heartbreaking he was so fragile and needed protection
The most helpless victim an innocent infant.
I’m like you-I’m literally SCREAMING while watching this. I’m also reminded of this question I’ve had for years-how can defense attorneys sleep at night?! I’m truly wondering.