Groves Trial Day 4 - Daniel Groves Takes to the Stand
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- Опубликовано: 9 янв 2020
- A mother and father in Scioto County, Ohio stand trial in the death of their infant son. Young Dylan Groves was found dead 30 feet down a well last year, prosecutors said. Authorities blame the boy’s parents-mother Jessica Groves, and father Daniel Groves-for what happened. The defendants are charged with aggravated murder, murder, kidnapping, endangering children, tampering with evidence, interference with custody, gross abuse of a corpse, and four counts of felonious assault.
Problems stemmed right from Dylan’s day of birth on January 10, 2019. The boy was born with drugs in his system, authorities claim. Daniel Groves later got the child back after showing that he followed regulations, but the defendant allegedly started missing important dates, including court dates and doctor’s appointments.
Investigators claim that both defendants bolted on a four-wheeler when authorities dropped by the home for a checkup on May 20, according to WLTW. Deputies obtained a search warrant, got Jessica Groves to give herself up quickly, but Daniel Groves was only arrested after a six-hour standoff. Authorities said they found $42,000 of stolen items at the residence, and later found the late infant in a well.
Deputies said Dylan Groves didn’t even make it to a full three months of age. They claim there’s evidence showing he’d been dead since March.
How Baby Dylan Was Found In the Well:
A coroner determined that the victim had been slain. The child sustained several bone fractures, had been wrapped in plastic bags with duct tape, then put in milk crates that were wrapped in chains, and other bindings, according to WSAZ. The crates were weighted down with rocks and a weight, authorities said. As in his birth, Groves died with drugs in his body, according to the coroner. This allegedly included methamphetamine.
#DylanGroves #GrovesTrial #JessicaAndDanielGrovesTrial
Dylan was murdered because he cried excessively because he was born drug addicted. An innocent punished for his mother’s crimes against him. WTF is wrong with this world.
And what’s crazy is they hit him and break his bones which will only make him cry more
Not only was he probably still going through drug withdrawals but hed been beaten & had many broken bones & bruises. Broken ribs are excruciatingly painful. Hed have felt it everytime he took a breath. He had also been taken from the only family who had actually taken proper care of him & loved on him & he was thrown into a drug addled violent home with people who didnt properly care for him. This sweet innocent little baby deserved so much better than these monsters.
I hate this world, too!
@tammy hall may I ask do you believe in Jesus...?
you know you need more training to be a hair stylist than a parent. there should be laws and testing done on parents. Although, here clearly are a bunch of ignorant goonies they could have easily given the baby up at the hospital and go back to there drug bingeing lifestyle. they didnt need to swing Dylan in the air by his leg and throw him against the wall then stomp on him. this is the only way he could have that many injuries. there is clearly more to the story no one is telling. A dream catcher huh? no way!!
I dont think a shoplifting charge is the elephant in this room
More like the mouse in the room.
@Kim Morgan TRUTH!! YOU SHOULD BE AN ATTORNEY!! 😂
Pfffffffft you’re not kidding! What a statement for his lawyer to make 🤦🏻♀️ the state attorney is the only one I don’t want to punch. Lol
Frankly I think the elephant in the room is this lying piece of crap in a green shirt. His idiot attorney is feeding him his lies! What sort of a father accuses his own son of essentially lying about the urine samples he provided🤷♀️
Far from it. Typical lawyer for the defense..
I know these "monsters" were wrong, but when is CPS going to start being held accountable? This is ridiculous
My thoughts exactly. Cps is there to protect kids when their families won't and they obviously did not protect him and neither did the people we are supposed to trust to keep children and infants safe
Agreed 💯
Yes I agree and the baby died right after CPS left. DHR and CPS are scandalous and drive families crazy. They probably after the hospital drugged her up real good being in the system.
Cps gets away with a lot! I am tryin to change those laws and I’m glad ppl like u see it!! They never do what’s best for the children and when a child is murdeted and cps is involved they should be charged as well
Yes
If only Dylan had been able to stay with his Foster mummy, Andrea Bowling. He would be a healthy, happy and truly loved little boy right now 💙🕊💔
Omg Andrea thank you for your pain
Every person involved with putting Dylan back in the hands of these monsters should be investigated.
Totally agree
I agree! I am a social worker and this is absolutely not okay. They should be punished for this.
👏👏👏
Bekahfaith AMEN AND AMEN!
Should be a federal law that drug addicted children are never returned to past and current drug offending parents.
Just in my opinion, she keeps crying, but I don't believe she is crying for Dylan - I think she's crying because they got caught.
Well said ! I agree !!
Not one damn real tear! Sorry excuse for a mother.
true. and it didn't even seem like it was real crying
Dope sick, postpartum depression and a newborn dont mix. Period. She should've left that baby at the hospital and never looked back.
I don’t even believe her tears are real she can be crying one minute then quite aggressively say she can’t remember how that poor baby got his injuries but if she is crying your right it’s tears for herself! What a sad sad case 😢
@1:26:28 she reveals what she's been crying about the whole time. There's no remorse or sorrow towards the horrendous existence she gave that little innocent. Her distress is because, as SHE said, "My whole life is over."
*Her* life.
What I'm feeling is beyond words.
Hopefully she’ll get the physical therapy that she needs/deserves in general population.
I'm so happy Daniel and Jessica decided to testify. They really showed their true colors and we and the jury saw thru their lies. They deserve the same amount of compassion as they showed their baby boy which is zero.
Right? They were all about themselves, crying cuz they were in jail, not one tear shed for their baby.
Were these new attorneys? I mean, new as lawyers?
@@niania7022I think both their attorneys were horrible, especially Daniels. She kept asking the same questions the State Attorney asked😳. I never seen the first tear fall from Jessica's eyes, she completely wasted a whole box of Kleenex that we the tax payers paid for since neither of them worked 😠😡🤬. I say lock them up, nah better yet give them the same treatment they gave Baby Dylan.
Especially Jessica. Wow
Always great when the defendants are the best witnesses for the prosecution
The baby should have never , ever left the hospital with a drug addict...
He didn’t! He went to Foster care and Child Services returned him.
@@crawleyr4919 Yes, but poor baby Dylan was there only for abt 12 days. He should have been allowed to stay in that safe, loving, cosy home until his tiny system was completely drug-free. Also, of course, not until Both his parents had been monitored, assessed and deemed fit to care and keep him safe from harm of any kind.
@@redmarilynn yep- they should also be held accountable. I was a Public Health Nurse- CPS ALWAYS brought out a nurse with them if a baby was missing appts. I’m so angry
@@crawleyr4919 IKR. Why, why did CPS - after finding him a safe loving environment - not leave him there longer. The daily pain Little Dylan suffered must have been excruciating.
@@redmarilynn it’s unthinkable! Now I’m watching the trial of Chris McNabb and Courtney Bell- 2 other monsters that killed their baby. I guess I’m a glutton for pain watching this stuff... (taking break from politics, lol)
The baby weighed 4.5 lbs at 2 months, and the CPS worker didnt take him with her?
The system failed this child.
No, he weighed about 9 pounds. The weight you are referring to was after they pulled him out of the well and his body had loss mass due to deterioration.
@@DizzKola3 WRONG. His actual weight was 5lbs 4 oz
Yeah because our CPS system sucks!
My baby weighed that much.... The Dr told me they don't usually let premature babies go at this weight but she was doing everything she was supposed to. So, it just depends on the situation.
CPS adores severe child abusers and hates non abusers. It's a one way street with CPS.
He admitted to seeing her hit/slap their newborn baby and did nothing!! After that (arguably well before) it should have been GAME. OVER. Period. There is zero excuse, zero justification and zero reason for EVER striking a newborn baby. And he said “yes I saw that but it wasn’t enough to cause those injuries” disgusting and total negligence in every way 😡
I missed or haven't heard the part yet about him seeing her hit the baby! To an infant!? Horrible
Disgusting how organisations that are meant to protect children, fail them so miserably!!!
CPS is a joke and has been for decades.
First of all, if this baby was born with drugs in his system, the baby is removed from his or her family's home. Therefore the baby should not have been released with his Mom and Dad until he was out of woods from withdrawal 's from these drugs. Why didn't the hospital keep him? In so much as the Mom and Dad had been doing Methanmetiphine during her pregnancy and the baby being born with this drug in his system why was the child not taken from the parents,placed in foster care and for the forseeable future until they got clean themselves? This is not in anyway excusing what the Mom did intentionally or unintentionally but the hospital dropped the ball.
CPS is there to protect the government and to help prosecute crimes. They pick and choose whom they serve in accordance with their yearly budget. Protecting children is pretty far down on the list of their priorities.
My husband would notice a mosquito bite on our children! This is sickening! I feel nauseous everytime he opens his mouth to lie.
@Michelle doe he knew the child wasn't ok and he didn't do nothing about it to keep the CPS from testing his wife's urine, it's not rocket science, we know what's up!!
Khokhi H...Totally agree with everything you said
@@healthyscents I think he didn't say anything because she was not supposed to be there unless supervised. Supervised means in the presence at all times of the one supervising which clearly he was not.
@Michelle doe were not actually talking about mosquito bites on the baby.. this was bruises and broken bones on this baby. He would have had to be deaf, dumb and BLIND to have not noticed his child was being abused.. gimme a freaking break!! 😡
@Native Nfree My ex changed a diaper when I made him. He wouldn't have noticed anything either. I sure would of course. When my kids were in daycare I checked them out every evening!
I never trusted anyone but me with my babies!
A couple hours after a social worker visited him he died ?! These social workers need punishment they're literally not examining children not following their guts and failing kids !!!
I was a public health nurse that often accompanied CPS workers out to homes so that I could examine a baby who has missed appts! Ohio needs to take a good look at this.
Yes, lots of them are but NOT ALL. They’ve got TONS of work and very little pay - the burn out is the worst. As I said in another post: Pay case managers even HALF of what is paid to entertainers & athletes, and take care of human beings!!! Our cultural priorities are effed up.
@Michelle Nash That’s one HUGE sweeping generalization you’re making, there.
I know from watching trials in my home state of Georgia that CPS is required to physically examine the child, down to a diaper change, of all kids they have to make home visits on. I’m not sure why this isn’t a rule in Ohio.
There's NO way that this baby could've had all these injuries, bruises and marks without the dad or cps seeing or knowing it!! Especially just having been there couple hours before he got MURDERED!! Cps is guilty also!
I've had two broken ribs and the pain was pretty bad. Poor baby Dylan, so much pain and nobody to comfort him 😭
I had 3 broken ribs (#8, 9, and 10). I was in agony for 5 months. I can’t imagine how a helpless little baby would feel.
This guy is unbelievable. He knows exactly what happened. Disgusting waste of life. CPS needs to be investigated for sure. They failed that baby.
I agree with you , the so called father knows exactly what happened his just as guilty as he's wife is !
I hope you are not a social worker
I agree! Lay Crisis Counselor/First Responder/Foster/Adopt parent 45yrs in Seattle area!
@@colleenshea2293A couple hours after Social Workers were there Baby Dillon died! 🤔 Yep trust them!
Wow you're pretty
"I'm gonna go ahead and talk about an incident that has happened in your life... get the elephant out of the room"
... Ma'am, *shoplifting* was certainly not the elephant...
She's incompetent and weak, which is fine given she's the defence lawyer. She probably has quarterly exorcisms.
Ok so i’m not the only one that thought “THATS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM TO YOU?!?!?!?”
@@kaylabeth7286 Every sentence she uttered was shameful.
@@hilaryc3203 m a m k²©
Beauty I thought the same thing
I'm so glad he testified! He put the final nail in his coffin. What a complete idiot. The Foster mother is the only one who did not fail that precious baby.
Totally agree.. This little Dylan, little angel 😇 the Foster mum is the only one who truely cared for Dylan
Becky Dennis Agree!
And the foster mom is the only one who cried real tears.
@@patriotbella agreed ♥
Becky Dennis that foster mother was so self-less and filled with unconditional love for that little baby. My heart hurts for her. 😔
I cannot wrap my head around how many people failed this child🤬 in my opinion they should all be held accountable!!!!
This precious infant baby was brutalized. The baby should NEVER have left the hospital with these parents, especially giving the Mother daytime visits supervised by the husband. Children's Protective Services failed this baby miserably as they do with so many cases. There is so much guilt in this case - just unbelievable.
He didn’t leave the hospital with them. He had a very loving foster mom who took him and had him for the first 12 days of his life. Then he was ripped away from her and given to these 2 monsters by CPS. It makes the entire thing that much worse. They MISERABLY failed him and should be held accountable. He had someone who truly loved him and was able to care for him but instead he was tortured to death because of CPS’s decision.
@@Ash-kb9hn. Really poor baby this could have been prevented
She’s a monster!
@@marjurypatriciacapizzi ....The husband is just as much to blame as she is.
I think social services should be up there on trial with them.
AMEN. Couldn't agree more!
Same with the judges who declare the child is no longer in danger and to return the poor children home, and government who cuts so much funding so social workers are over worked and have too many caseloads to properly focus on the high needs cases
@@ecb1979yes, the funds are given to astronauts to go to moon, stars, clouds, galaxies, milky way and to other unnamed planets to look over you, so that America can become great again
Sound like the foster mom is going to try to fight for changes
ABSOLUTELY!!!
I am an addict in recovery from everything and I may have nodded in and out,woke up sleep walking, stayed up for seven days straight at one point and I still remember who, what and where ...fine details are blurry. But the bigger stuff that occurred I haven’t forgotten. Sober since 2012
God bless you and keep you. Happy New Year friend!!
This is so true!! No matter how strung out you are you know what is happening generally. Sequences and times and dates blur but not the framework
Congratulations 🥳 Proud of you! From Australia 🇦🇺
Congrats Laurie! I have 27 years clean, unfortunately 30 years an addict which means I raised children while on drugs. I managed to go clean while pregnant and for at least a year after. It was mainly meth. As I was terrified my children would be taken i managed to maintain for years but still my children suffered. They always do. My greatest grief was the facing the lie of being a good mother. My greatest joy is being a grandmother in recovery and assisting my children. I'm so proud of you. Your life is just beginning.
@@s.v.2796 wow.. we have a ton in common..Thank you so much, I Wanna get back at you later
So let's see: Daniel didn't know his wife was doing drugs. Didn't know she was pregnant. Didn't know she was missing prenatal appointments. Didn't know she was not going to Majahgen or drug rehab or continuing her drug use. Didn't know she was beating their son to death. We all know he knew EVERYTHING because he could not stand up to her and whatever she said or wanted or told him to do he would do. He got her drugs. He let her harm Dylan.
yup...because he was seeing it, hearing it and gosh darn, he was probably beating it too....but CPS was more concearned with re-uniting then protecting, it should be called child/parent reunification, not child protective services.. not whats in the best interest of the child..
Let me just say this if I ever were to walk in on my husband hitting/shaking our son it would be the last thing he ever did.
Yes! Same here. I catch anybody hurting my children and I'm going for blood.
I’m grateful that Baby Dylan had Andrea Bowling in his life for what little time he had...to experience TRUE love and caring that he so greatly deserved 💕 😔
Yes, me too. It is devastating to hear how the poor baby was suffering from drug withdrawal. Thank God he was comforted for a little while with the kindness and love of his foster mother. May his poor soul Rest In Peace.
I'm a huge nightclub bouncer n usually pretty emotionless. but this thing has got me choking back tears. this little baby had twelve days of love from a foster carer an that was all the love he ever knew 💔
Andrea Bowling is an Angel!! You can tell she lived that baby the way she was so torn up! Just so sad! Those parents should have never been given Dylan back!!
Wish Dylan had stayed with Andrea.I couldn't foster knowing that the baby would be handed to monsters.These babies don't have to die.This is never acceptable.If you do meth,get sterilized.
@@beardedloon77 I agree 💯 percent.
When he said he was giving the pee to a friend I knew I was going to be watching him lie for an hour and 30 minutes 🙄
😂😂😂 I'm not laughing 😂😂😂
I am not laughing either😅😅😅
Right 😐🥴
Why though? Have you ever had to be tested and/or heard, seen, participated in getting around said testing? Cause I have and it's not easy to fool them, the only way is to use a pricey contraption and someone else's clean urine.
I wonder why he didn’t just give his friend his own urine sample?
Cardinal rule: you can never.. and I mean never - trust that a drug addict or alcoholic is telling the truth.
I truly hope they are being treated accordingly by the other inmates
Paul Flores who murdered Ms Smart, was beaten badly in prison just recently so jail house justice still lives.
They can't escape GOD'S Justice!
@@cristineconnell7803 They can't escape the beatings they will receive from the inmates. If you think god has that kind of control why didn't god protect Dylan?
@@cristineconnell7803You’re so right
I hope their 15 yr old son has found some peace and healing...and is able to move on without them in his life. Poor kid! 😞
POOR KID?????? YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING. HIS WHOLE LIFE HAS BEEN TURNED UPSIDE DOWN. HIS PARENTS ARE MURDERERS. MY GOD! WAKE UP.
I pray for this older son to be able to put his life together, and find peace and love forever. It sounds like his aunt and uncle will help him to heal.
What is wrong with you?
@@conniesabatka9925 I hope you are no longer mentally unstable.
With 15 years 😢😢he will never be healed 😢😢😢
The infant did not “pass away” he was murdered.
THANK YOU!
That was the FIRST thing out of my mouth!! There's a difference...
Just wish they would “remember” how it happened
They remember what they want. And yes he is responsible!!! The court made him guardian, and he saw her hit the child. It would never have happen if she wasn't in the home. One hit she should of been gone.
@@kathleenanderson4876 maybe he suspected it was a love tap Idek honestly he apparently never thought she would do something like that because of how she was with there first child
Years ago when my grandson was a running toddler, I was taking him and my granddaughter, his twin sister to a local "Play Land" for kids. On the way he unbuckled his car seat harness, crawled up on the flat deck under the rear window. I pulled over, scolded him and buckled him back in. The fourth time I had to pull over to buckle him in, I took him out of his car seat and paddled his butt over a thick huggie. It didn't happen again, and we had a great time. My grandson is now a 6 foot 16 year old. I'm now 67, and have literally been upset to tears over it all these years. He laughed and says he doesn't remember it, but I do. How this couple could beat their baby to death is beyond my ability to comprehend it.
I just don’t understand how that baby wasn’t crying constantly in pain! How can ANYONE ignore this??
Poor little guy, hurt badly, crying & no one to help or comfort him. This breaks my heart.
Cary Ulmer that is the saddest thing I’ve ever heard 😪
Its sickening. I do not see why we even give them food or water. Nothing. Thats what they deserve. Throw them off a cliff or something painful and absolutely free to taxpayers.
:( heart breaking.
I think he knows about brusing how could he not know
😔Wow, that is so so awful, I pictured your words and ouch, so heartbreaking. So incredibly sad.
That poor baby. OMG.
If i believed my baby died from SIDS.. why would i bundle him up and throw him down a well??? This guy is unbelievable!
When I was nearly 4, my baby sister died of SIDS. This father is despicable. He has no genuine grief let alone trauma about the murder of the baby and his statements are ridiculous. There is no excuse for not calling 911 except this drug abuser didn't want anyone to find the broken bones nor the fractured skull of the baby.
Yeah and when did SIDS cause broken bones and bruises???????????????
If Daniel had truly collected urine for his "friend" the defense could have called that "friend " to testify that what Daniel was saying was true. So my question is why would defense leave out a critical witness.
So he changed the baby Dylan's diapers and didn't notice a leg broken thru and thru, an arm broken thru and thru and broken ribs??? He didn't realize the baby was in extreme pain when he changed him? WHAT A HUGE LIAR!
Last time I checked, when you "smack" somebody, you are _HITTING_ someone.
I wouldve asked him to define the difference!
@@LikelyLeikin
It's just Ridiculous if you think about it...
Smacking, slapping, etc.
It's all a form of hitting.
Whether you're actually using your fist or your palm, you're still "hitting" the other person with a part of your body.
Goose An infant! Who would strike an infant?
@@amethystdawn9476
Hitting anybody is wrong, unless it's self defense! Period!
Goose who smacks a two month old in the head!!!🤬🤬🤬
Can you even imagine torturing a defenseless little 2 month old baby! It’s just heartbreaking! I’m crying just imagining what that poor baby went through! The people that are supposed to be loving him....killing him! How dare they even get to breathe the air!
In a way I'm glad baby Dylan is not on this earth today. Not the way he went though. It's a lot to imagine what more pain he would've endured every extra day if he was still here. The parents deserve what's coming.
?? 2 months old & 4.5 lbs?? Wow !! I heard the wt but not the age until now
Very upsetting
The cry of a baby in pain is deafening. As a parent you would KNOW that clearly something was WRONG!
@@joycemckennon exactly!
Daniel just doesn't get it. He is responsible for his son's horrible death by allowing Jessica to beat this baby to death. In his mind, he has no accountability.
So how did the baby die if he didn't kill the baby and he didn't suspect the mother - then they hid the body? NOT ADDING UP!
This guy is liar. He's blaming it on his wife but he's just as guilty
He sure is
He is worse in my eyes blaming it all on his wife. He was the one who was suppose to be looking after dilan in his care, she was not allowed to live at home
He should be jailed for stupidity aside from the main charges
How are we the only ones who know hes a liar. Just look at his body language, especially his eyes. Also if we look at his antecedent crimes and wrong doings, there are all centered around being dishonest to law enforcement and to CPS even before the crime happened. He’s deceitful and this in itself is proof that he has no trouble lying. Also, his sons urine sample that he “gave to his friend “ is a clear and obvious sign. He thinks that if he admits a smaller deception or less grandeur, they will believe him to be truthful. he is a liar, as are most addicts and I hope they both rott in jail
Exactly. If he felt his baby was threatened in anyway he should have reported it. Now he’s just blaming his wife for everything. He lived there, he could have stopped her from killing the baby.
One is as guilty as the other, one did it, the other allowed it.
I totally agree Diamond
CPS is also at fault!
I agree with you
Aided and abetted.
She should have had an abortion, then they wouldn't have gotten in trouble. 😊
Kids can be troublesome, mom should have known better.
Daniel exhibits no empathy, warmth or love for Dylan as he is cross examined. His testimony really helped put the last nail in his coffin. Their strategy of making him come off as an innocent bystander failed completely. He really showed his true colors.
Both of these so called parents are disgusting. He knew and saw her beating the baby 🤬🤬🤬R.I.P baby Dylan💙💙💙🙏🏽
He didnt call 911 when he found his baby cause he didnt want them to see his bashed in skull and broken shattered limbs!! He knew that baby died from obvious visual injuries! You're not fooling anyone bud
I honestly believe when the autopsy photos were being shown in court, those two POS should have been FORCED to see every last one of them so they never forget what they did to that poor little angel's body.
I totally agree 👍
YES they should of forced them to look, all those poor people on the jury have to see them how awful must that be so yeah the least they could do is look at the damage they caused to that poor defenceless baby.
How could he even answer the question about if the childs head looked bruised at death the same as it looked in the autopsy photos. His answer was no but when they were showing the photos in court his eyes were closed with his fingers over his eyes. He's lying.
@@karenwood2615 absolutely agree.
Wouldn’t matter. They are psychopaths so it wouldn’t faze them whatsoever.
Did anyone watch the last 10 minutes of this? They were in recess but the camera kept recording Jessica and Daniel with no sound. For what seems like the first time he talks to her. She really truly starts crying. And yes, I completely believe the crying is for herself, for the situation she is in. But even without sound it's incredible to see them. His body language and facial clues are totally pulling away from her. While she looks like she wants to grab him and hold on. Whatever he keeps telling her, probably "We are screwed. We are going to jail forever ", is really getting to her. In the end he does put his arm around her and pats her shoulder, looks like he said something soothing, and withdrew. It's so interesting to watch them, even without sound.
But, I'd pay big money to read what she's been writing on that freaking yellow notepad! Lol
Gotta love how All of these murderers start bawling when they’re in Court. Makes me sick!
If he thought the baby had just died...not due to injuries or murder..then why not call 911?
The wife she would blame him for the entire death and he didn’t want to get I trouble
@@amberpetty4390 He was a battered man!
Because he knew the cause of death was beating, that's why. He's lying in court.
He claims they had bad cell service. He also says Jessica badgered him that he would be blamed for everything because he had custody of the baby... which is true. He had custody and endangered his welfare by allowing Jessica around him. Part of me believes some of his story but then he starts talking about how Dylan never had any injuries and it flies right out the window. Your child’s arm was broken in multiple places, his leg was broken, and you were bathing your baby, changing your baby, and you didn’t know that? Impossible.
Exactly. Any caring, loving, compassionate parent would do the obvious thing.
There is no way they are together for 24 years, both have histories of drug use and he didn't know she was using. He's lying. I highly suspect they were using together
Of course they were! There is a lot that prosecutor never even asked that I’m curious about. What did they tell their 14yo about where the baby went?
Gee! Do you think? Lol
An addict can pick a user a mile away.
@@crawleyr4919 so much! The prosecutors left so much opened. It was not very detailed oriented at all.
Hello Brittabug,
You are correct.
Both has used drug together.
Mom and dad are pathetic.
He is a liar.
How can he not seen the bruises on the baby's body.
I’m so disgusted by these two. Sickening that they threw away the life of their baby Dylan.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this man offs himself as you can see he’s wrought with guilt & grief but the monster of a mom will probably outlive all of us!
I see it too
He calls Dylan “the child.” This man doesn’t give a crap about his baby.
I was going to write that same thing
What is the time stamp when he said that?
Just wondering im not taking his side at all but the only time i heard anything like that was around the 5 min mark
@@jerrywhat4799 around 53:40 he says it, but thats only something I just caught now.
You would think if you're spending that much time with a baby you would bond to it more than "the child" 🙄 but idk, he could be disssociating or trying to approach it clinically to remain calm or something
Can someone just give her a hearing aid, she's literally the only person that can't hear.
That's what I was thinking 🤣
She's old 😂😂😂
@@JG-bi3he NOOOOOOOO she is just stupid and dithery
That's what I was thinking too
NO! If I could afford hearing aids, I wouldn't be reading movies!
OMG. I honestly don't know who I hate more. These two are beyond words to describe their cold hearts. I hope their remaining son stays away from them. He appears to be exact opposite of his parents and to remain that way he needs to keep as far away as possible and I hope he comes to realize that as he grows older.
I'm holding my baby now, crying imagining this little angel suffered at the hands of his own mother even before he was born. His dad never fought for his safety. There's no way he didn't know his wife was off her rocker. Dylan crying from broken bones would be impossible not to notice.
I'm just thankful Dylan felt love and hopefully some peace while he was with his foster mother. She loved him so much before she even knew him and got everything she needed for him with in a few hours. I can't imagine how she must feel.
She crying because she is going in prison and will be separated from her husband. Also crying because she need drugs
she.ll get drugs in jail. she will also be beat for this.
@@amandabialkowski9131 yep
She’ll get dealt with in prison. Everyday I hope!
@@amandabialkowski9131 nope people in prison that care about their kids and can't even see them kill b****** like this
Turned off and on the fake tears
That must have been so hard for foster mum to stay throughout this trial. She is an amazing good hearted woman
She may just have you fooled as well.
@@pamelamorris3148 why would you say that?
@@pamelamorris3148 and why would you feel that way?? She loved that baby and stopped her life and took off of work to be there for him...... really why do you think that?
@@pamelamorris3148 Is there something you know about her that we don't know?
@@pamelamorris3148 ????
Him and her both deserve to stay in prison. They are juat sad that they got caught and lost their older son. He has no empathy just like her.
The 20 minutes or so of filming Daniel and Jessica after their cross examinations is very telling. They both are obviously not happy with how it turned out and Jessica manipulates Daniel with her constant crying. I think it was at this point they both realized that their strategy of getting Daniel a lighter sentence was not going to work.
Daniel Groves under redirect from his attorney says: "I thought he just died of SIDS." Then he says: " I was afraid because she said she would blame me." when asked why he didn't report his son's death to child services. Sudden infant death syndrome clearly implies that it's no one's fault; the child simply died. Well if he honestly thought that the child died of SIDS why would his wife threaten to blame him? Moreover, why would this threat prevent him from reporting the death if he honestly thought the child died from SIDS? He's lying.
I totally agree with you! He's definitely lying!
@@Ronai991 It's too bad the prosecutor didn't pick up on that. Those are the kinds of conflicting testimonies that trial lawyers dream of.
Exactly
He'd probably say that he didn't know that "nobody would be blamed"
@@cats17100 If he didn't know no one was to blame then his statement, that he thought the child died of SIDS is a lie, as SIDS implies that the death was natural.
A CPS WORKER SAW THIS BABY BEFORE HE DIED THE SAME DAY. JESUS
She started to cry in her testimony but then got defensive. 😡 she may not be employed any longer
@@crawleyr4919 I do not think she should be
She didn’t see the baby properly . 😡
If she had she would have seen the trauma.
I hope she feels bad for the rest of her life.
He was probably dead when she seen him
@@crawleyr4919 that's was when she said march 28.
I’m addicted to this case… but I keep skipping the part of the trial involving the foster mother because I just cannot even imagine what she is going through. Foster moms have the biggest heart of all. And I know her heart was with that little boy.
I wished I would have skipped the foster mom’s testimony! It was absolutely heartbreaking! She wanted him sooooo badly, and they just didn’t! Good thing you didn’t see it. Her testimony has stuck with me since!
Andrea Bowling’s impact statement was heartbreaking.
As a mother of 3 children I can say 2 month old baby will cry from slightest discomfort such as a scratchy clothing. And when they are in hurt they are usually screaming "bloody murder". You can not miss the pain crying in a baby. This 2 monsters let their child suffer so much and endure such a horrific pain, eventually killing him. I wish someone would hurt them as much. And to add, I had rib fracture, the pain it caused was unbearable for first 4 weeks. All I could do is sit in a same position. Moving my arms or laying down was impossible. Breathing was very hard to do. This baby was in so much pain, it bring tears to my eyes. As a parent you do everything in your power to protect your children from harm. But not this 2 monsters. They don't deserve to live and breathe.
He sure gets assertive when being cross-examined but can’t stand up to his wife?
Excellent point.
100%! Spot on !
My thoughts exactly
I feel terrible for the older brother. Im sure he is traumatized, confused, angry, and depressed. Imagine having to testify against your parents for murdering your bany brother and discarding him like a piece of trash. So sad.
Same as that I feel really awful for that poor boy I’m sure he has saw so much pain and neglect his whole life I actually dread to think what these children in these households go through. His mother and father destroyed his life I so hope he is somewhere where he gets a good shot at life.
I pray as well that he can remain with his aunt and uncle prayerfully they’re going to give him the love he needs and getting him some help with some type of therapy because he’s going to need someone to help him cope with all this.
And then be essentially called a liar by said parents.
There's no way this kid hasn't been traumatized in that home with parents addicted to hard drugs.
I keep wondering who cared for him in the chaos of days after the hospital birth. Where was child services for him during those 3 months after the baby was returned to Sr’s custody.
Drug addiction destroys families and society.
Omg i saw some pics of that little baby boy. He was so tiny and i can't understand how can someone hurt such a tiny swet innocent little baby boy.
Omg, everything you need to know is when this man calls his own deceased son “the child”... disgusting!
Emotional distance. No bonding. Not caring.
@@hilaryc3203: Irrelevant to the murder. Not all people are touchy-feely and empathetic.
@@solitairecatnaps4444 True, but most people do have a reaction to their child being slaughtered.
Honestly think both of his arms should be broken. IMO
@@hilaryc3203 facts 💯
Why was a talking, walking 15 years removed by cps and a helpless baby left?
The baby was missing. They wanted to pick him up, too, but he was missing and the parents were not communicating with CPS.
They had went to take both children but Dylan was already dead and missing
@@clairenisbet5869 had GONE, not had went.
Maybe you should look at all the trails on dylan case you would know instead of asking this.
@@lionswimmer4637 get a life please
"Those injuries would not have caused his death" so basically giving the excuse that it's okay to hit the baby as long as it doesn't kill him
Miss Hutchison did an excellent job of examining both.of these sick parents..if they didn't want a baby why did she let herself get pregnant..it's 2023!!!!
The foster mother should have been able to keep baby Dylan.
This is EXACTLY why I couldn't be a foster mom😪
He might be alive today
Either way they are both guilty.
A exceptionally upsetting situation, two children traumatised, one loss of life and adults excusing failings. More needs to be done.
Like revamping CPS
11:27 is telling to me.. he says he “went into the bathroom, left the door cracked.. put urine in the cup”… not “i urinated into the cup” 🧐🤷♀️
I am a 17 year old with a 15 month old, and I’ve had my share of struggles and frustrations, but my daughter is the best thing that’s ever happened to me. These people never loved Dylan and it had nothing to do with drugs, simply there lack of parental morals.
Devon keep being a good parent. Children must be protected at all costs. Do not trust anyone with your child that's new in your life, please be careful. Im proud of you you can do this!
good luck!
raise that little girl good, we believe in you :)
It's the drugs. It makes you lose your morals and kills your Spirit which makes you not have any guilt of wrong doing.
How is everything are u coping okay?
Connie Sabatka- There are many drug addicts who don’t beat or kill their children. The majority cause self harm.
Who smacks a newborn regardless?!?!
EXACTLY. There is not a single thing ANYONE could EVER say to justify that!
I have two kids and I know how hard and frustrating it can be, but no amount of frustration could ever make me hurt my children. Ever. This is sickening.
A monster that’s who 😑😔
@@shawnabarnett7008 girl I'm with you... My baby had colic when she was first born and it drove me absolutely bonkers....I just had to let her cry and comfort her.. That's all u can do...I could never imagine harming my sweet baby...
I am afraid to hold one..they are so fragile. People are sick.
omg he smacks the baby 😭
Daniel is 100% as the so-called mother. His job was to protect Dylan and not let that POS stay in the house. HAD HE DONE THAT BABY DYLAN WOULD BE HERE TODAY! HE WAS GIVEN DYLAN TO PROTECT BY LAW GIVEN THE RESPONSIBILITY GIVING DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND THAT WAS BY NOT LETTING THE MOTHER'S DAY IN THE HOME THAT'S ALL HE HAD TO DO!!!!
Unreal! These sociopaths kill their own children. Netflix needs to do a story on this case. Gabriel Fernandez, Anthony Avelos, Baby Brianna and many more of our innocent Angels!
You took a premature baby with drug withdrawal out to your work shed in the middle of winter in Ohio to “change his environment?” What?
Oh and that made him stop crying... this guy was planning on killing this baby the whole time
@@phyllysanantonio what's that she puts her finger on?
@@lenas5613 mute button on their mic
Seriously. All his testimony is waaaay out there.
They would be high as hell right now if they were not caught they are crying for themselves
Soooo TRUE
my exact thoughts!😓
So true
Sandy Trantham,sooo true and the fact I have Not Seen Him Cry Once for his baby,ONLY Her and it's because she wants sympathy from him and others!!! They Both make me sick SMFH😠🤢😠
@Andrew Orahoske believe me there are plenty drugs in prison.
I ama retired nurse. I have known many cases where CPS has failed children. They are overworked and don’t always look at the children. They sit and visit with parents and ask how things are going. It’s really sad and this is another case of failed CPS systems
Most of them are not passionate and don't have the skills needed. They need to find a way to increase the pay to attract more qualified workers.
Every time I see or get to hold a baby I am always in awe of their tiny little hands and feet,their cute little fingers and toes, those sweet little faces; how helpless and vulnerable they are, and how I'm scared to hold them to tight because I don't want to hurt them. Then I watch these videos about baby Dylan's tortuously prolonged murder; I can't help but picture that tiny ,helpless, innocent baby in pain ,over and over again after every injury screaming and crying in pain needing comfort and soothing arms to hold him and help him. It brings tears to my eyes. I don't know those two 🤮 pukes,and I'm glad they don't live near me .No telling what I'd say to them or throw at them.
He knew his wife was doing drugs while pregnant. To me that is involvement.
Complicit in the crime.
I’m sure he was right there doing drugs with her!
Her body her choice right?
@@ringsofsaturnn6153 I don’t know if you are being serious or sarcastic but when someone is pregnant it’s not their body. It’s two. The baby inside has no choice. It’s both of their jobs to protect that baby and they both failed.
@@pamelasmith6221 the point is there is nothing to be done.. the unborn have no legal rights.. that is how a large portion of the country wants it.. sick but true.. she can literally throw it in the trash and there is nothing dad can do.
He should have kept his lieing mouth shut. He takes no responsibility for anything. He is as guilty as she is.
Candy Chazel
Huh?
Candy Chazel Are you on crack? That made no sense
ooofff TRUE THAT!
@@EYE_GOTCHA she meant after 24yrs marriage he stabbed her in the back!
Lieing?? Its spelt Lying! Not meant to nit pick, for some reason I always spell with.... withe!? I have a masters in English Literature!😂🙋♀️🕊
Daniel's testimony is chilling. Absolutely chilling. He showed no emotion whatsoever when recalling seeing Jessica hit Dylan 4 times in the head. No anger, no regret, no sorrow. No one except Andrea Bolling shed a tear for Dylan. I think I hate this man more than I hate Jessica.
His demeanor is sickening.
He has very very sad eyes.
I still cant get over this precious baby!! They can remember everything else but cant admit to what they done to him even though the proof is in the autopsy and when they pulled his remains out of that well. 💔
Why the hell are they allowed to sit there together and communicate with each other??
JusticeAA did not know that about the law.
Remmus ‘ and no handcuffs around waist or like Jody a shock belt
I was wondering the same thing ...you say this and I'll say that. .......?There is no way that after living together more than 20 years that you don't know that your partner was using and abusing....he is certainly lying.
I'm surprised by that too. Even if they are codefendants, you don't usually see that in court. I don't think it should be allowed, but I guess that's are lovely justice system. She keeps writing notes to him!
@@lovepet4565 No. That will come at the end after the verdict.
He's full crap nobody can be this blind to what was going on in his own home. He did nothing to protect his baby
Because he himself was high as well!
@@ceecee333 I understand what your saying but the bruising how can he miss that
@@hollyberry2752 He is lying like a rug ! Lol
Nothing to protect the baby is different than actually doing the murder. The CPS knew of this issue and did nothing to protect the baby either.
@@trailtrs1 very true
It doesn’t matter what he supposedly knew…he was told that the baby could NOT be around her and he failed that child
This man is disgusting for not taking an ounce of accountability!
I feel like every single time he says “absolutely” or “absolutely not” he’s LYING 🤥
It’s an Ohio thing. All of my aunts respond that way. Drives me batty
AGREE
Exactly! It's like when someone answers your question with your question: Do you think you made mistakes? Do I think I made mistakes, yes...BUT...
And also when someone says "honestly" before they answer a question.
That is actually a tell tale sign he is lying. That and when they say things like Can not or did not. Moat people use contractions and don't place emphasis on things when telling the truth
It's really common, the detective does it too all the time.
I can not understand how this father sits there & answer's all these questions about his sweet little infant being broken & killed & Not ONE Tear!!!! Unfathomable!!!!
After he looked at his psychotic wife crying he immediately tried to fake it as well.
ONLY THINKING OF THE BAG OF METH AT HOME WAITING FOR HIM
People grieve in different ways. Not everyone shows emotion by crying.
Let's not forget that the strategy of these two was that Jessica was going to take the fall and that Daniel was supposed to get a light sentence so he could return home and care for Daniel Jr. Their interactions after Daniel's testimony show that they realized that that was not going to happen. Daniel, despite his best efforts shows that he knew he failed. That he came across as cold and unfeeling. Interesting to watch these two when they come to grips with that fact.
This is a window to the circumstances of a family where much went wrong. There is sadness in this world.
Why were they able to take the baby home knowing Jessica tested positive for drugs?
@OhHell_TooTheNo Gee im a nurse..it was the firat question in my mind. Lets start from the beginning ya know? If he were never allowed to leave with a drug addicted mother he would still be alive!!
She apparently was not meant to be living in the address when he returned home with their baby
The dad was testing “negative” for drugs so they gave him the okay to have Dylan and as for the mom they ordered for her to go to therapy and classes and she wasn’t allowed to be living in the house or around Dylan until they saw improvement but they clearly cheated the system and the system let them
In New Orleans I had a friend give birth to a baby she said she didn’t know she was pregnant. Both her and the baby tested positive for drugs and the baby ended up in the nicu. They were willing to let her take that baby home with her (after she got out of the nicu) alone as long as she took some drug classes and there was a representative (friend or family - she was going to pick her drug addicted boyfriend) that would check in on them every week and sign off that they were doing ok.... this happens everyday it’s heartbreaking.
The nurses’ testimonies describe that women give birth to drug addicted babies daily, and that’s in one hospital. I can’t imagine how many more children would be wards of the state if they weren’t allowed to go home with parents who are using, but which is better? Both the state and addicted parents are apathetic caretakers with no regimented schedule or ability to help a child thrive.
He should have never tried to covered for the wife by wrapping and dumping that precious baby into a well. He has to pay for doing this.
And I have the feeling that he feels because he didnt "Kill"the baby that his crime is somehow less than hers.
Your right although he didn’t kill him he didn’t do the right thing and protect him when he was alive let alone in death poor poor baby 😢🙏
Tragically, the authorities might have believed he hurt the baby as she threatened him to tell them he did it. She has the tears and "poor me" act very well rehearsed. It just doesn't work with a dead baby thrown down a well and him not taking her garbage anymore. It would have been far better if he had called 9-1-1 when Dylan died and taken his chances with the truth. In that way, most of those charges would not have been filed and he would not be spending most of the rest of his life in prison. She sure did a number on him convincing him they would believe her!!!
Glenna Rose I think your right...they probably would have believed her. Bottom line, the best thing he could have done was left that baby safe and sound with the foster mom. They have sought return of custody only once they were both completely off drugs, out of the criminal lifestyle, and gainfully employed with the resources to love and care for Dylan well. How sad that a beautiful baby like that wasn’t enough to make them want to make a positive change in their lives.
He was protecting himself because he watched her beat that baby Dylan and did nothing.
Wait... you didn't know she was pregnant AND you didn't know she was getting high, and then you help her bury your baby!?!?
AINT BUYIN' IT!
Funny dad! Not once did he think of picking up his baby when he was crying? Knowing what his wife's issues were, I am really surprised that it never occurred to him to see the baby! I have never known a father so distanced!