This FREE Event 4-star Polearm Is GOOD... But There's A Problem (Genshin Impact)

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    ABOUT THIS VIDEO
    So I am kinda disappointed with the new event weapon Dialogues of the Desert Sages and I wanted to at least make a video to make fun of it - I mean hey, at least I am covering this direction that I am NOT satisfied the game is taking.
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  • @GachaGamerYouTube
    @GachaGamerYouTube  2 месяца назад +14

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  • @Hlebuw3k
    @Hlebuw3k 2 месяца назад +225

    I don't have 5 billets for the craftable spear, and the event one gives more HP% which is better on characters that actually want it. Also, it's easy to say to "just use favonius" but I only have 1 favonius spear so every single character can't use it at the same time, and swapping it out every single time I switch my teams around is very annoying.

    • @carlos2villalobos276
      @carlos2villalobos276 2 месяца назад +3

      No way in hell you are running 2 team with fav lance, ima be real with you, you are doing something wrong

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 2 месяца назад +5

      I think it is also worth noting that a lot of characters are not burst reliant. For my example, I have two teams I use pretty much every Abyss. One relies on Kuki (E), Nahida (E), and Fischl (E), and Dehya (does want her burst up, but her damage doesn't really matter and she's on-field). The other is Yae (E), Furina (does want her burst, but has no energy issues), Yaoyao/Navia (both E), and Kirara/Choiri (E again), and with either the dendro or geo basis, stuff dies so fast energy isn't an issue. And there are plenty of other characters, like Hu Tao, Yoimiya, Neuv, and so on that are not burst reliant.
      Sure, if you are using Benny and Xiangling, or Xingqiu and Yelan, or some other team combo that has multiple off-field burst reliant characters, you will probably want a fav. But unless you're a new player or Zavef, you are fully capable of playing teams that don't need it.

    • @vanitasastra
      @vanitasastra 2 месяца назад +4

      Those are literally the worst teams I've ever heard of. You're using dehya on field with like, aggravate and overload? Huh? And then double geo with furina electro charged no healer? I don't think fav is your issue

    • @rottuce5735
      @rottuce5735 2 месяца назад +3

      same, i got 1 r1 fav polearm, 1 r5 fav warbow 1 r2 fav warbow, 2 r2 fav sword and 1 r1 fav sword, i don't bother crafting kitain or rightful reward, what a waste, my xiangling use catch, my neuv team doesn't need those polearms, and my alhaitham team there is no polearm on my alhaitham team, ya''ll forgot this youtuber doesn't care about f2p/newbie, even some people only has 3 fav sword because they refuse to pull on weapon banner to manage their primos. still 36 star like walking in a park.

    • @EdwinCelestial
      @EdwinCelestial 2 месяца назад +7

      @@vanitasastra if it works for them it works man. lmao

  • @Yasviele
    @Yasviele 2 месяца назад +173

    I ain't farming those floating enemies again, they just released a character that asks the same...

    • @atomotron
      @atomotron 2 месяца назад +5

      You just need more Faruzan in your life my man ;)

    • @xLuis89x
      @xLuis89x 2 месяца назад +10

      I built yoimiya partially due to those flying shits

    • @Grass_rock-kb7gi
      @Grass_rock-kb7gi 2 месяца назад

      I am still farming those for that character

    • @jonmorel4645
      @jonmorel4645 2 месяца назад

      I'm back to farming samachurls and slimes thanks to some certain characters

    • @traincore1955
      @traincore1955 2 месяца назад +1

      Chiori is ez skip tho

  • @stryfer1989
    @stryfer1989 2 месяца назад +64

    I actually don't agree with this take. Yeah, it's true the weapon feels uninspired on it's own, but I like the idea of having a variant of a weapon for both an on-field DPS and an off-field support unit. Even if said DPS can heal, they might still prefer Rightful Reward for it's higher base ATK, while Dialogues is clearly meant for supports.

    • @xLuis89x
      @xLuis89x 2 месяца назад +2

      caring about higher base attack on a weapon that has... HP% as a mainstat?

    • @enz0_25
      @enz0_25 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@xLuis89x the uploader cares, so....

    • @stryfer1989
      @stryfer1989 2 месяца назад +4

      @@xLuis89x I don't know the math the behind it, but every single normal/charge attack (unless one of the new characters or a certain C is an exception) scales off attack.
      Then you have HP% as additional scaling or conversion into attack. It's why Bennet works for almost anyone and every single % you add amplifies the base.
      We'd need a math wizard to see whether an extra ~13% HP increase on a character with probably close to ~80% HP increase is worth more than +~50 base attack.
      I doubt it's a noticeable difference, but that was just an afterthought anyway. The main thing is as long as you're healing your main, they're getting an extra 16 energy vs the support getting it.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 2 месяца назад

      @@xLuis89x Can be, hybrid build on Chevreuse as example, where you don't go full HP/HP/HP but want some plus HP to buff the team ATK.

  • @nello7466
    @nello7466 2 месяца назад +20

    I use it on Mika and it feels A LOT better than favonius. And you don't need a crit circlet on Mika to trigger fav. He's shorter on field and gets more energy restored and heals more than with fav. I was very positive surprised.

  • @pvcl4331
    @pvcl4331 2 месяца назад +35

    its not like the many forgotten gacha four 4 stars are any better... these weapons are just subjective and optional for whoever needs them. It's never that complex.

  • @MagmaMonika
    @MagmaMonika 2 месяца назад +214

    Insert the Spider-Man pointing meme here when he compared the two polearms

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 2 месяца назад

      genshin in nutshell
      HSR just laughing in the back

    • @atomotron
      @atomotron 2 месяца назад +6

      @@kyotheman69 back with that silly comparison between the two completely different games, I see.

    • @leskynt
      @leskynt 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@atomotrondamn you seem worked up at the slightest mention of hsr
      they just made a joke, the closest "comparison" here being is you mentioning it

    • @atomotron
      @atomotron 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@leskynt am I? Okay. So you are. =)

    • @ranjitmandal1612
      @ranjitmandal1612 2 месяца назад

      😂

  • @schopenhauer5427
    @schopenhauer5427 2 месяца назад +16

    I hate swapping weapons around, so I actually love event weapons that imitate existing ones. I have 2 R5 fav lance, but they're already taken so my Chevreuse was kinda weaponless, until this weapon dropped

  • @Modie
    @Modie 2 месяца назад +103

    Tbh, while I won't say that the weapon is the best thing, I think people forget that other options are not always available to everyone. Yes, Favonius is often the best choice, but that goes for so many characters that it's hard to give every polearm user a Favonius weapon. Same goes with billets. Not only is getting a billet already quite time consuming (assuming you only do the three weekly bosses and not every which I think is wasting resin, but that's beside the point), but even if you get one, you must win the 20% chance of getting the spear. And then do that 5 times. Yeah, over time, you'll get them, but it's not something you can just plan for.
    Therefore, I think the weapon is fine. It works well on Chevreuse and Yaoyao and who knows what the future brings. But I don't think it's bad that they basically gave you a free R5 of a craftable weapon. That's a W for a lot of players as they can save their billets for another spear.

    • @krumi_hazuki1440
      @krumi_hazuki1440 2 месяца назад

      Candace heals?

    • @Modie
      @Modie 2 месяца назад

      @@krumi_hazuki1440
      Ah sorry, I was mixing the two spears up. I am not sure if she gets healing with constellations but I was thinking about the effect of being healed, but that's the craftable spear.

    • @krumi_hazuki1440
      @krumi_hazuki1440 2 месяца назад +1

      I made a joke that you can heal using Travelling doctor artifact set

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 2 месяца назад +9

      And another thing to consider will billets is that there are multiple crafted weapons you might want to make. Kitain Cross Spear, for example, is another useful polearm.

    • @ranjitmandal1612
      @ranjitmandal1612 2 месяца назад

      😢

  • @inyourdreams7754
    @inyourdreams7754 2 месяца назад +69

    Underwhelming because? Xianling cant use it? LOL

  • @lordkaiser1404
    @lordkaiser1404 2 месяца назад +119

    this is actually a great addition to the polearms because zhongli wants the fav lance, yaoyao wants the black tassel, thoma wants the kitain cross, yunjin wants the prototype starglitter, chevreuse wants the rightful reward. if this weapon isn't available, what can you give mika? and yes, i don't want two characters having the same weapon.

    • @Nephale
      @Nephale 2 месяца назад

      Doesn't chevreuse want deathmatch?

    • @alexander2019.
      @alexander2019. 2 месяца назад +19

      @@Nephale…?

    • @BradleytheDavis
      @BradleytheDavis 2 месяца назад +11

      isn't. But counterpoint....
      Why would anyone care what weapon Mika has. Its not like anyone uses him! Ha

    • @insxnemxnd3127
      @insxnemxnd3127 2 месяца назад +13

      Why does Yaoyao want black tassel? Her healing is so good already

    • @tamdang8346
      @tamdang8346 2 месяца назад +11

      Ye it is good fro old players who dont want to switch weapons like myself. You dont need 2 rightful rewards anymore a great substitute

  • @KawashiK
    @KawashiK 2 месяца назад +42

    I say this is just making a mountain out of a mole hill. It's not the best weapon sure, but the problems mentioned are all VERY niche at best because these conditions need to be true:
    - You would assume that the player has an intention to craft the Fontaine craftable for a unit they have AND assume that the player HAS billets to do so
    - You would assume that the player has the alternative GACHA weapons at a usable state (specifically Fav R3-5)
    - You would assume that the player only has 1 unit that is using the weapon for it's purpose

    • @twinrixone5295
      @twinrixone5295 2 месяца назад +1

      all those apply to me and most of my friends which are mostly ar60

    • @AkashRaj-1369
      @AkashRaj-1369 2 месяца назад +2

      The main point of the video is :
      It's a copy paste uninspired (except the design❤) weapon to an already niche weapon.Most people won't need it and those who do might already have RR. Hoyo don't do this. Give me something fresh.

    • @yYSilverFoxYy
      @yYSilverFoxYy 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AkashRaj-1369 MOST people need it. Incredibly old players don’t. I have neither the billets nor the patience right now. You really need something fresh. Air. Go outside.

  • @milosantos28
    @milosantos28 2 месяца назад +14

    I haven’t been playing for weeks now and I went back to obtain this weapon for Mika. I do have a fav lance but I also have other characters that also need it. This one both solves my energy issue with Mika and gives him a ton of HP. I’ve really come to appreciate him since I got Furina because he works so well with her and he’s the only healer I have that had been able to get max fanfare stacks and it just fits so well in my rotations. I don’t really use him on physical teams because I don’t have a decent phys character, but I am able to utilize his atk speed bonus. So now, I use him with Wanderer, Furina and Yun Jin. Sometimes, I even swap Wanderer with whoever could be a normal attacker and just have fun with it. Overall, I do think this weapon is great on him and it even looks good on him aesthetically lol.

  • @KyleCorbeau
    @KyleCorbeau 2 месяца назад +6

    0:15 They're not, one is maxed out the other is still at level 80 so it will have at least one more boost in stats.
    And the wording implies VERY different use cases. The new staff can really *_only_* be utilized by characters that *_can_** heal* whereas the old staff can be used by any polearm user (even in non-healing teams) so long as they _get_ healed. So even environmental heals would allow the old's passive to function.
    The polearm users that can heal are:
    Zhongli (c6), Hu Tao (self only), Chevreuse, Mika, and Yao Yao.
    So for those physically capable of using the new item, it's 5 (at best) vs 14 that "can" use the old weapon; which is a hell of a difference.
    I don't quite recall but I don't believe that there are any artifact sets that can heal (and even if they could it may not trigger the weapons passive considering the source is not "the wielder" but the artifact effect).
    Like I get hyperbole but this felt a little disingenuous (just a little though).

    • @artswar404
      @artswar404 2 месяца назад +2

      You are right but the problem is they shoulda released a weapon that triggers on both effects

  • @FinnManusia
    @FinnManusia 2 месяца назад +14

    We know why he created this video because of the TOF sponsorship. It is okay if you admit it plus it is time limited one.

  • @Axterix13
    @Axterix13 2 месяца назад +7

    So, what we have here is a weapon with multiple use cases, an event weapon that is actually useful (note that Cinnabar Spindle only has one really strong use case... on one of the weakest, lowest pull value five stars, and is matched by a three star for Chiori, who is only worth getting if you really like playing geos), and one that doesn't require five billets. Overall, it is one of the better event weapons we've gotten.
    Worth noting that Fav is a bit overrated. Sure, you need it if you are a new player still in your Benny and Xiangling addiction phase, but if you outgrow that, there are plenty of characters and team make-ups that are not that burst reliant. And on the flip side, as far as Yaoyao goes, if you want to talk crafted weapons for her, Kitain Cross Spear exists as well, which can be handy for the EM. Of course, that eats up 5 polearm billets, which means you might not be able to make that Rightful Reward.

    • @SuperKevinho1
      @SuperKevinho1 2 месяца назад

      Why are fav overrated? Fav aren't must have, but are strong in any team because almost all teams has at least 1 Burst unit (dps or support), and anyway, have more particles (for the wearer or other ally) is always great, specially when almost all Poleaem pure supports don't strictly require any polearm (HP scaler normally have enough Hp/outgoing healing from substats, or doesn't change so much their Kit.

  • @TheGachaGourmand
    @TheGachaGourmand 2 месяца назад +9

    Festering Desire has always been the best event weapon imo. And the fact that the weapon has been great and used for a lot of teams and characters, even until now, is saying something.

  • @AnonNymph
    @AnonNymph 2 месяца назад +47

    I think your analysis of this weapon is almost like complaining for the sake of complaining. First, like @Modie said, "other options are not always available to everyone". Second, why would 4-star weapon is expected to be an upgrade for another 4-star weapon? Like @pvcl4331 said, "it is subjective and optional for whoever needs them". Third, your way of thinking and assumptions are too much lean towards meta and min-maxing for a free 4-star event weapon. Do you think we need another Festering Desire-like 4-star weapon? Fourth, like Uraku Misaguri is undoubtedly "tailor-made" for Chiori, this weapon is "tailor-made" for "healer". It does'nt equal to lackluster or lazy, again, this is free 4-star event weapon. It's never that complex.

    • @raashidmohammed8840
      @raashidmohammed8840 2 месяца назад +9

      Someone said it finally. I feel like most of the genshin content in this channel revolves around complaining nowadays.

    • @raashidmohammed8840
      @raashidmohammed8840 2 месяца назад +5

      This weapon is kinda good, like a comfort weapon. Long time players who don't wanna farm for Rightful reward can use this and newbies can save a lot of time and resources if they need hp% polearm.

    • @blaze8308
      @blaze8308 2 месяца назад +9

      GI content creators probably think if Xingling can't use a polearm then it’s bad 😂

    • @damselettefan
      @damselettefan 2 месяца назад +1

      its TAILOR made for chiori, haha get it??😂😂😂🤣🤣😂

    • @brooklyns.b.3570
      @brooklyns.b.3570 2 месяца назад

      Daddy Hoyo must be proud.

  • @AlRud_GI
    @AlRud_GI 2 месяца назад +24

    I pity ToF, they even need to do that formula (collab) so that their game not dying just because their original content can't keep the game alive, just like most of moba game like Mobile Legend, AoV, Free Fire etc

    • @takhupadi9957
      @takhupadi9957 2 месяца назад +9

      Mobile legends is far from dying tho

    • @Lightrim706
      @Lightrim706 2 месяца назад

      oh dont worry its dying alright,they are planning to rebrand tower of fantasy , tower of fantasy 2 so it will make a new server, but guess what? whatever you obtain from this collab will not carry on to the new server, so essentially every player gets the collab character as a limited time thingXD

    • @eternalblizzard70
      @eternalblizzard70 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Lightrim706 Damn no Collab transfer lol that would be a big L to all Collab owners

    • @Remls
      @Remls 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Lightrim706Ah, so they're pulling an Overwatch.

  • @baanfrey
    @baanfrey 2 месяца назад +4

    Why does this weapon literally fit Candace’s aesthetics perfectly (and is a desert Sumeru weapon to boot) but the passive is completely useless on her? 😭

  • @riotrio3247
    @riotrio3247 2 месяца назад +4

    I would agree with this being a problem if it wasn't for the pipe (Fontaine fishing weapon) coming out, even though it has the same (worse for damage, better for energy) mechanics as festering desire. Yet, I love having the weapon on my Furina. The main reason why I don't see it too much as an issue is like, why even consider trying to get the rightful reward (to r5 at that) if you already have the event polearm, at that point, it'd be much simpler/easier doing the events instead of getting 5 billets for a very similar effect, which is exactly why I think these "copycat" weapons are a good thing to have in general.

  • @Akaishu294
    @Akaishu294 2 месяца назад +3

    3:31 im gonna quote that EVRYONE i know, believed this weapon was bad, like saying none beneffits from it, literally all the catallyst users beneffits from it, but because it wasnt crit stuff everyone neglected it, now look at everyone using it on supp xianyun

  • @jojinhomiguel
    @jojinhomiguel 2 месяца назад +24

    Gigachad knowers:
    3* Black tassel with hp 46.9%

    • @nicholasxamotainiumgilgamesh
      @nicholasxamotainiumgilgamesh 2 месяца назад +8

      yes 50% more dmg to slime very useful

    • @findingaether
      @findingaether 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@nicholasxamotainiumgilgameshespecially in Chambers with slimes😂

    • @krummesblech
      @krummesblech 2 месяца назад +6

      @@nicholasxamotainiumgilgameshit doesn’t matter, if you only want a HP stat stick its still the best.
      As an example Shield Bot Zhongli don‘t use his burst (it cost time to use and deals no DMG).
      So the 3* is the better weapon in that case.

    • @Yeneney
      @Yeneney 2 месяца назад +2

      yes I was looking for this comment

  • @aoikazuma3781
    @aoikazuma3781 2 месяца назад +9

    That weapon, i think it's Mika's signature weapon. Ok lemme cook on this one, so let's start with the color Blue, white and gold similar to him, second the style it's a staff with wings like him but feathers, the stats Hp and when heals it gives energy back and it's a polearm, third the event it's a Monstadt event and an alchemy where you need to put those flowers and fruits and what's Mika's passive? that's right monstadt specialty (herbs), and lastly the name "Dialogues of the Desert Sages" desert? hmm sounds familiar? that's right Mika's boss ascension "Setekh Wenut" where is that? that's right in the desert..
    nah i'm just coping

    • @salceds
      @salceds 2 месяца назад +1

      missive windspear has a better chance

    • @user-rm3itr40rnd
      @user-rm3itr40rnd 2 месяца назад

      @@salceds What do you smoke? Missive windspear is dps weapon and its stats are absolutely useless for Mika.

    • @palaashmashelkar1946
      @palaashmashelkar1946 2 месяца назад +2

      @@user-rm3itr40rndnah I think he’s talking about the looks.

    • @salceds
      @salceds 2 месяца назад

      @@user-rm3itr40rnd Visually, we were talking visuals here

  • @kxvzee
    @kxvzee 2 месяца назад +1

    when i say i r5'd and 90'd rightful reward for an even weapon to come out and just be even better (higher hp, and effect just needs the character to perform heal, not even receive it) i literally shouted since i kinda prepared the rightful reward for chevreuse in advance.

  • @mulraf
    @mulraf 2 месяца назад +1

    Also maybe candace. She doesn't heal but as a buffer she wants high hp for her passive. So this could be a sidegrade to black tassle with slightly less hp but more personal damage. like if you have her c6 or something and she *does* deal some damage. maybe? Altough black tassle of course is a 3* and will probably still be at least on the same level in terms of overall performance. just one extra character i wanted to note.
    edit: 8:40 she got noticed.

  • @krispiek4084
    @krispiek4084 2 месяца назад +6

    As much as I love the design of the polearm this just highlights a problem I have with a lot of the weapons and it's that there aren't really that many good supportive options to give your support characters which results in the Fav weapons really being the only viable support weapons and I'm so tired of running Fav on nearly everyone. Especially Zhongli, he could've gotten an updated signature weapon like Venti did with Elegy that focused more on his supportive capabilities

  • @zeromailss
    @zeromailss 2 месяца назад +12

    They should go back to make free weapon designed as F2P option for specific character but also can be used by other. I remember when FD was a solid weapon option for Albedo, Jean, Bennett, even Xinqiu and so on if you don't have a better option esp for new player but now we got this garbage
    To be fair it is a decent weapon for the two polearm healer but we have the exact same weapon already, give us HP scaling sword or Def scaling polearm with ER skill instead or sth, anything

    • @Puppetmaster2005
      @Puppetmaster2005 2 месяца назад +3

      Festering was overpowered though. Heck it's still legit for modern characters like Furina. I don't think hoyo will release a weapon like that ever again lol

    • @Zorlexon
      @Zorlexon 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@Puppetmaster2005 mailed flower is a pretty nice claymore and more than decent on basically every claymore user (except noelle and itto) and it's quite recent

    • @stryfer1989
      @stryfer1989 2 месяца назад

      @@ZorlexonIf the build/comp revolves around EM, yes. Festering Desire is like if Mailed Flower gave crit or burst damage. There won't be another 4star FD just like there won't be another 4star Bennet, Xiangling or Xingqiu. They pushed the envelope too hard in the beginning and have scaled back since.

    • @Puppetmaster2005
      @Puppetmaster2005 2 месяца назад

      @@Zorlexon
      It's good, but it's not as broken as Festering desire. Not even close lol

    • @Zorlexon
      @Zorlexon 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Puppetmaster2005 festering is really good on farina. All the other sword chatacter don't give a about their skill or prefer other options

  • @highwaytoheaven99
    @highwaytoheaven99 2 месяца назад +2

    It was, like, a week since I crafted R5 Rightful reward for my newly built Chevreuse, then this event weapon drops...
    Well, at least I managed to get my Chevy to 40k hp with it, and Rightful Reward goes to Yaoyao now. Poor thing can finally get rid of that Black Tassel lol

  • @MN-xh7yu
    @MN-xh7yu 2 месяца назад +1

    I did think the weapon passives were the same at first. I understand what the video is saying and agree but I'm also glad the weapon is an upgrade for me Chev. I had Lawful but wasn't at my 40k hp goal before weaponing to thus weapon and I'm not a strict when building my supports so the fact that this weapon boosted my hp and made getting energy easier for her was nice

  • @kasuha
    @kasuha 2 месяца назад +1

    Yeah I can remember it pretty well how everybody was saying Festering Desire is useless.

  • @Peyp
    @Peyp 2 месяца назад +1

    I know it's a self-inflicted issue, but I hate sharing weapons, and thus have 3 different fav polearms lvled. I don't have 4th for Chevy. Chevy thus gets to be magical girl.

  • @holderofallknowledge604
    @holderofallknowledge604 2 месяца назад +1

    I ended up taking rightful reward off chevreuse and giving it to Mika because he heals teamwide and it triggers the passive better than her. I then gave dialogues to chevreuse so while it's not a game changing weapon it does help chevreuse get her passive easier and was an upgrade to my Mika's healing (he was using a lvl 20 fav lance lol)

  • @darylewalker6862
    @darylewalker6862 2 месяца назад

    Commonly, an event weapon that comes out at the same time as a new character can be decent for said character, even if not exactly meta. Examples are Missive Windspear (Cyno), Oathsworn Eye (Yae), or Fading Twilight (Yelan).
    Then we got weapons that are not in sync with a new character. Mailed Flower came in between Dehya and Kaveh, and either could use it.
    Chiori can’t use the event weapon, but could there be an upcoming polearm unit that either is a healer, or has self-healing?…

  • @1djose
    @1djose 2 месяца назад

    I used it to mica and i think it also made for him as well. And i was able to change one of his artifacts to HP from ER. My mica is good at 158% ER compared to 175 before. 😃

  • @ochayta
    @ochayta 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for the detailed comparison and the list of compatible users! Didn't know about the hp% nuance

  • @fredericmacconaill
    @fredericmacconaill 2 месяца назад

    My extremely specific situation where I use this weapon (Dialogue) :
    Yaoyao in Nilou bloom because I don't have a spare Favonius Lance(and I don't need the team energy) and I didn't craft the Rightful Reward, so it's a free weapon

  • @jonathan0225
    @jonathan0225 2 месяца назад

    Can be easily summed up with this range, all around - niche - "free 4* weapon what?" (festering-cinnabar- everything else.)

  • @Temproux
    @Temproux 2 месяца назад

    Due to the wording "Rightful reward" has more utitlity, since the effect triggers whenever the user is healed the user does not have to be the healer. It could work for Thoma since he has hp scaling and a healer such as barbara could trigger the effect for him.

    • @jaffrry5120
      @jaffrry5120 2 месяца назад

      Ehhhh not really. If anything it's the opposite. You won't really use Rightful Reward for DPS characters so any polearm character you could think off that is not the healer that will use Rightful reward won't really benefit from it. Thoma and Candace are the only characters I could think of that would value from this but with Thoma if you are going to use Rightful reward, he IS already the sustain unit, meaning chances are you don't run a healer with him. If you are going Burgeon Thoma, you'd rather have Kitain Cross since it gives energy and EM. Candace one can be used I guess but you don't really want to on-field Candace.
      The event weapon not only is a better stat stick than rightful reward, but it actually rewards healers for doing the team healing cause it can trigger the ER passive even when off field

  • @cardnacn6704
    @cardnacn6704 2 месяца назад +1

    While I agree that the effect looks almost like a copy of rightful reward but better, I would argue that it's better case than Cinnabar Spindle bc there're 2 4* characters who can use it well right when the weapon debut. Cinnabar is only good for Albedo for a long time until Chiori comes out. Even then, both are 5* characters that would be a lot harder to "accidentally" get them if you don't plan to get them. At least you can get Chevreuse or Yaoyao outside of their rate up banners.
    Also, I think it's better to have good and usable event weapons while having a free weapons with a bit worse effect (the same for Festering and the pipe)​ than having event weapons without alternatives (like oathsworn eye).

  • @mypizza4715
    @mypizza4715 2 месяца назад +1

    The editor freaking out over Candace being overlooked is the highlight of this video

  • @JessicaLiu-up9ni
    @JessicaLiu-up9ni 2 месяца назад +1

    It could be good for arlecchino cause she has hp replenishing mechanics and might need energy

  • @NightmareRex6
    @NightmareRex6 2 месяца назад

    where do you get thew waepon? i did the potion event and i dont see it?

  • @Number_254
    @Number_254 2 месяца назад

    Hoyo, give us an event weapon that can be personalized, like select base attack, sub stat and effect (from craftable weapons). Like a hp scaling lance with prototype amber's effect

  • @jonson856
    @jonson856 2 месяца назад

    I got my YaoYao an R5 Dragon‘s bane. She heals enough to get almost all of her teammates to 100% every other rotation, so what I needed her to do was do more damage

  • @ctran1955
    @ctran1955 2 месяца назад

    im kinda surprised. i rarely use event weapons but this time i actually leveled it immediately. support weapons are always nice to have another option. the only complaint i have is that the fontaine spear looks so stupid in comparison now. this should've been the fontaine craftable all along, and then have a diff passive or smth.

  • @josef-1209
    @josef-1209 2 месяца назад +1

    There will be an upcoming artifact set - 1pc set - that lets the equipping character heal the party so Xiangling will be able to use it

  • @MrVhatever
    @MrVhatever 2 месяца назад

    You have to consider newer players that might not have the a favonius sitting around let alone a high refine one.... any newer player who pickedup Chevy or Yaoyao(both of which are extremely good 4 stars evenwithout constellations for a newer player for many teams) will be happy to get a weapon like this for free. Also we have seen enemies become more dangerous and aggressive in floor 12(you really sure you don't want to ult every rotation onYY against copelius?) so more healing/shielding is also going to be nice for even older players with a favonius sitting around.

  • @matunusdonnerhammer3423
    @matunusdonnerhammer3423 2 месяца назад +5

    My first impulse was giving that weapon to Mika, but I see your point. It's better if the energy is produced in form of particles by Favonius Lance, so it can go to Eula instead of going directly the Mika's burst.

    • @salceds
      @salceds 2 месяца назад +4

      That's Eula's problem not Mika's

    • @matunusdonnerhammer3423
      @matunusdonnerhammer3423 2 месяца назад +2

      @@salceds Mika's purpose is being Eula's support. Her burst more important than his.

    • @kaein2973
      @kaein2973 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@matunusdonnerhammer3423 I mean Mika is a healer for a lot of teams now that can make use of furina and his atk speed buff

    • @salceds
      @salceds 2 месяца назад +2

      @@matunusdonnerhammer3423 Mika's purpose to cap out Fanfare stacks for anybody involved, if Eula can't get her burst up, that's her and the flex slot's issue. It's also on the player for not building her with enough ER to boot.

    • @fyltheold
      @fyltheold 2 месяца назад

      Mika is realy good support for wanderer and to combine with furina ​@@matunusdonnerhammer3423

  • @skyhart9926
    @skyhart9926 2 месяца назад +5

    9 minutes of video in 4 seconds:
    *Hoyoverse, don’t make free 4-star weapons function the same. It’s a waste.*

  • @nikhil9356
    @nikhil9356 2 месяца назад

    I just like it to have for my yaoyao, so that i don't have to switch black tassel between zhongli and yaoyao, both can have decent hp polearms. Yes I am lazy.

  • @mattythefinger
    @mattythefinger 2 месяца назад +1

    Good points, but Yao Yao and Chevy were hungry needed a treat!

  • @keithnesson3870
    @keithnesson3870 2 месяца назад

    And here I am using it on Mika thinking it's a great weapon for him. I can have his burst always ready on every rotation with Euala, Raiden, and Kuki.

  • @pauljoseph3081
    @pauljoseph3081 2 месяца назад +3

    Noone can stop me from giving this to *YaoYao* the drip is just 👌

    • @xKaeia
      @xKaeia 2 месяца назад

      Definitely suitable for her too

    • @pauljoseph3081
      @pauljoseph3081 2 месяца назад

      @@xKaeia It's perfect

  • @gillesnotard69
    @gillesnotard69 2 месяца назад

    I would say, other than the stats differences, being healed or healing makes quite the difference, the craftable one is overall good, either for HP scaling dps / utility / healer, while the free one is only good for Chevreuse and Mika, and that's bad.
    However, Dialogues is more visually appealing, I love using a big ol' scepter, just wished we had a magical girl / spear Barbara to use it.

  • @flamezforthegamez1056
    @flamezforthegamez1056 2 месяца назад

    I think this event 4 star is pretty good. Often times, Fav is on Xiangling, Yaoyao, Yunjin, Thoma, or Zhongli, so this weapon is an actually good substitute for likes of Chevreuse, Yaoyao, or MIka, even Zhongli in Navia plunge. Fav isn't too important when Chevreuse is on an artifact set outisde of Noblesse, and in my case, she is on Song of Days Past. My Rightful Reward is at R3 and it feels clunky to play having to wait around for Chevreuse to heal for it to activate.
    The event weapon is better for healers than for those getting healed while the Rightful Reward ends up feeling more seamless for teamwide healers like Yaoyao or Mika. It's only slightly worse than Black Tassel but has a more useful passive which you obtain at R5 for free.
    At the end of the day, Fav is the most commonly used weapon and not everyone wants to be crit farming or give up useful stats to equip a crit circlet for procc consistency so this new weapon in the arsenal sticks around on a few so you save time from having to swap weapons back to a designated character.

  • @RavenShugo
    @RavenShugo 2 месяца назад

    Never used weapon banner even ONCE and I play almost from start, so these event weapons gives me variety of choice. Plus since I farm almost every weekly boss every week (right now I kill them from newest to oldest and stop when I get a billet) - so I have enough billets to craft every weapon to R5 and have extra for when we will get new region's set.
    PS. I would gladly take a unique weapon instead of 4star, that I have C6+++ already - hoyo really likes giving only the characters I already maxed, while Sara is still C5 for YEARS....

  • @alirehman4858
    @alirehman4858 2 месяца назад

    When are we going to get a new sword as an event reward?? Lately it’s just been polearms only. The last one was that red umbrella I think. We don’t have enough F2P 4 star sword options target for dps.

  • @masterjedicat
    @masterjedicat 2 месяца назад

    So true!!! When I saw the leaks, at first, I was positive about it since it had a high HP stat which could be good for Zhongli and other units I like. But when I analyzed the new polearm, I found out that the only character who really benefits from this weapon is Chevreuse! Moreover, the more constellations you obtain, the more you want to build Chevreuse as a sub-DPS. And if you build her as a sub-dps, you care about her attack, and Rightful Reward has a higher base attack, and I'm not sure if her attack buff from her passive gives the team more than her own damage, so Rightful Reward might actually be better at high constellations if you build her as a sub-dps. The difference between Rightful Reward and the new polearm is tiny for Mika and Yaoyao (and they'd like to use Fav instead), so there's absolutely no reason to level up the new polearm if you've already leveled up Rightful Reward. C6 Zhongli doesn't count😂, and even then it's not insane. I wasn't sure if the passive worked on Hu Tao, but it actually works. Despite that, the difference once again is not that huge. It's no more than two HP substats since Rightful Reward has a higher base attack which matters for Hu Tao (probably less than HP, but in the end, she's an attack scaler who converts HP into attack), so even if it's better, the damage increase is extremely small, so I wouldn't recommend leveling it up if you've built Rightful Reward already. And yes, Missive Windspear is better on Hu Tao. Even if for some reason you don't want to use Fav on Zhongli or Thoma, Black Tassel gives more HP. And if you're building hybrid Zhongli or hybrid Thoma (shield + some damage), you should better be using Rightful Reward because it has a higher base attack.
    To sum up, I'm very disappointed because I kinda like the design of the weapon, but it's not worth leveling since I always use Fav on all of the characters who might possibly want to use it except Chevreuse (I haven't built her yet) and Hu Tao (I don't have her on my account). And since I don't want to waste a lot of resources, I'm probably never gonna use it which is sad... They could've at least given us a free-to-play weapon for Arlecchino, but (leaks) she's not an HP scaler... I hope the next free weapon will be better because this one was really underwhelming...
    Btw it haven't fully powercrept Rightful Reward because you can use Rightful Reward on characters who cannot heal if you have a healer on the team. For example, if you used the Zhongli, Furina, Neuvillette, Jean team, you could use Rightful Reward on Zhongli, and the passive would work, but the passive of the event polearm wouldn't because it wants the wielder to heal. So if Hoyoverse release polearm damage dealers who cannot heal and whose burst would utilize HP (like Thoma but with dual scaling (HP% + ATK%) high burst damage), Rightful Reward could be better than Fav and the new polearm if you used a healer on the team. It would be more important for the character to build Crit and other damage stats instead of ER, but it would be very important to burst every rotation, so Rightful Reward would actually give them the energy they would need, and Attack and HP to deal more damage. But it's very unlikely that Hoyoverse will release those characters, so it's probably copium.

  • @dollsgamescorner
    @dollsgamescorner 2 месяца назад

    What if this polearm is for arlecchino. Maybe she could change to scale off health

  • @thearchivist250
    @thearchivist250 2 месяца назад

    As a Chevreuse player who didn’t have an HP polearm, I’m glad I got it

  • @JeffZabala
    @JeffZabala 2 месяца назад

    My Yaoyao now looks like Sailor Chibi Moon.

  • @nikkohayashi5182
    @nikkohayashi5182 2 месяца назад

    This is so good for cheveureuss for raiden miko overload team tbh

  • @XxGreatestyouknoWxX
    @XxGreatestyouknoWxX 2 месяца назад

    I'm guessing its probably for a future character like Sigewinne.

  • @andrefaelnar
    @andrefaelnar 2 месяца назад

    The only hope for this free event polearm to be good is if that synergizes well with sigewinne only if one, she is a polearm user and two, sigewinne's kit and playstyle synergizes well with this free event weapon.

  • @colormop2617
    @colormop2617 2 месяца назад +1

    I like the weapon, it’s cute in Yaoyao also how long until Kaveh comes back in a banner. I need him at C6

    • @xKaeia
      @xKaeia 2 месяца назад

      Every time a new banner is announced, I always anticipate for the 4 stars rather than the 5 star. Because I need Kaveh and he's the only 4 star I don't have.

  • @5h0ckblock
    @5h0ckblock 2 месяца назад

    I would say just obtain the weapon, that way if a future character you like can make perfect use of it, then you level it up and you're set.

  • @josephm7606
    @josephm7606 2 месяца назад

    I don’t have Rightful reward and need a weapon for my Yao Yao anyway so it worked out for me but I haven’t really built my Yao Yao that high yet so 🤷‍♂️

  • @exmaarmaca
    @exmaarmaca 2 месяца назад

    Lel was thnking on using it on Candace cuz of the hp%, as it looks cool on her...

  • @stuvthanz
    @stuvthanz 2 месяца назад

    It's actually good im just 1+year player so not all weapon from old event available and need to deal with weekly boss rng for craftable... extra weapon always welcome

  • @dialest
    @dialest 2 месяца назад +4

    I didn't think it was a weird video. I've actually been looking at this polearm since I got it, wondering what I was supposed to do with it, so this helped!

  • @MultiViper777
    @MultiViper777 2 месяца назад +1

    I love that the ad you have is one of the direct competitors of Genshin Impact lmao.

  • @MuhaamadAreeb
    @MuhaamadAreeb 2 месяца назад

    5:58 but she only gains 16 energy from reward with since her skill lasts more than 10 seconds
    She will gein 32 energy per rotation with this weapon. Literally double the passive

  • @sigma20xx
    @sigma20xx 2 месяца назад

    I tried to give the dialog a chance with Yao Yao. But the fav spear is just too good.

  • @josephm7606
    @josephm7606 2 месяца назад

    I know the energy regen isn’t necessarily best on Hu Tao but isn’t the higher HP substat good for her since her Skill damage scales on HP consumption?

    • @rft1076
      @rft1076 2 месяца назад

      It's good, but damage dealers like to have a weapon passive that further amplifies their damage. Sacrificing damage for utility should be the last thing you do, when you can't fix the issue with your more supportive characters.

  • @yallugly4255
    @yallugly4255 2 месяца назад +96

    This is such an old player take. A huge portion of genshin players are new or mid game and this is a great weapon for them. They cover most of their player base more than end game and/or old players. This is NOT for those players. This is for the new and mid gamers. Its great addition for them since a lot of them don’t have great weapon selection or money to whale om weapons. You are not getting the point of these weapons and it shows. Same argument can be said for free 4 stars weapon. Its not for end game players. Its for the new or mid gamers. Yall forget that there other demographics out there and it shows. The “me, me,me!” is tiring.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 2 месяца назад +8

      What are you waffling about... the point is that it doesn't really offer anything new/different or valuable over the current options, You can get alternatives that give you most of this bunks utility within 2 months of playing the game, if that.

    • @powder2drag
      @powder2drag 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@F1ll1nTh3Blanksif is a condition and the original commentator is right

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 2 месяца назад

      @@powder2drag *if that meaning 2 months or less. What are you talking about. Farming black tassel doesn't take that long.

    • @hijodelsoldeoriente
      @hijodelsoldeoriente 2 месяца назад +12

      Lol no. All that is just speculation. An event weapon is for ALL players. The argument that it's for new players or mid game players is such disingenuous take when weapons and artifacts don't really matter during early to even mid game.

    • @walter1824
      @walter1824 2 месяца назад

      Nope
      3 whole regions later, Kazuha's sword and FIVE freaking regions + dragonspine, chasm, enkanomiya, Desert of sumeru, we got the Narzissenkreus Sword complete trash, the damage from Blackcliff series is very noticable.
      Try killing Consecrated beasts with those

  • @anonimiti
    @anonimiti 2 месяца назад

    Looks great aesthetically on candace

  • @queenviren
    @queenviren 2 месяца назад

    This is an interesting take that if imma be honest I feel the people that will really only care about this/be effected are people who are really deep into meta, which as you’ve said most won’t use anyways. For me, as someone who didn’t know about that Fontaine polearm I loved and still love dialogues bec it actually made my yaoyao feel more viable. But I also get wat u mean about weapons being recycled it’s an interesting dilemma that I’m curious how hoyoverse will handle as debate continues.

  • @Barrymore20472
    @Barrymore20472 2 месяца назад +5

    Criticizing a game while being sponsored by another competing game just doesn't sound right. 😅😂😅😅

  • @alexander2019.
    @alexander2019. 2 месяца назад +1

    It has a few uses but also does something that others can do as well. I just hate how they keep making weapons for no one or make weapons that overlap eachother. They couldved made the Fontaine craftable hp% and it wouldved shook up the classic formula. There’s like 2hp% swords. How about we get some of those for an event? Sumeru looking weapon. Hp stat. Candace is from sumeru and scales off hp. But doesn’t synergies for her. We went from good niche weapons to weapons that is so universal that it’s not really applicable to anyone because there’s better. Othasworn eye. Looks like it’s for kokomi, made during yae, realiscally really good for Mona.

  • @SetiKt
    @SetiKt 2 месяца назад

    It works amazing with yaoyao, since she can trigger the passive twice per elemental skill. Her radish has continuous healing that exceeds 10s marks. So that's 32 energy per E. 😂

    • @SetiKt
      @SetiKt 2 месяца назад

      My current team comps:
      Nahida c2 r1
      Keqing c2 r5 lion's roar
      Miko c1 r1
      Yaoyao c6 r5 dialogues sages
      Nahida doesn't need energy and yaoyao ult is only there to apply extra dendro. Since this team barely receives any damage with quick swaps. My yaoyao was built with a lot of EM. (around 400 before nahida buffs)

  • @blitzer12x
    @blitzer12x 2 месяца назад

    Probably the Pyro Archon is a HP% Polearm that sometimes heals.

  • @yoyosha3384
    @yoyosha3384 2 месяца назад

    It's for cheuvrese to be used in 4.6 with arlecchino

  • @nise49084
    @nise49084 2 месяца назад

    i still believe that rightful reward is better for cheveruse as she does good damage so the high base attack will help

  • @Alexander-wx2ie
    @Alexander-wx2ie 2 месяца назад +1

    I just got it to fulfill my Yao Yao magical girl fantasy..... Also I don't have energy problems because C2

  • @manonblackbeak399
    @manonblackbeak399 2 месяца назад

    Why don't they put the event weapons in some store like the gadgets?

  • @Melotaku
    @Melotaku 2 месяца назад

    I’m glad it’s an alternative to the craftable. People won’t feel as bad for missing but it’s nice to have. All event weapons should be like this going forward imo.

  • @marios.2975
    @marios.2975 17 дней назад

    I missed it unfortunately, did stop playing 3.7 and come back 4 weeks ago. I would have given this to my Thoma full HP Instructors build. Rocking Black Tassel and 205ER is a close call sometimes with burst. Damn. And rightful reward has very low 2nd stat HP% only 27% I think.

  • @riotangel4701
    @riotangel4701 2 месяца назад

    Yeap my Candace is hanging onto Rightful Reward.

  • @guiltycross
    @guiltycross 2 месяца назад

    it's a weapon that can work on the other 4 given specific circumstances. Honestly though, It's love letter to Raiden-Chevreusse teams haha!

  • @LucidGate72
    @LucidGate72 2 месяца назад +1

    Looks cute on my YaoYao and works well with her

    • @arthrit_7752
      @arthrit_7752 2 месяца назад

      Same! I'm using it with Yao Yao ❤

  • @86soulx
    @86soulx 2 месяца назад

    not to mention there black tassel which gives higher hp%

  • @mischarowe
    @mischarowe 2 месяца назад

    Did they think we wouldn't notice?!?!

  • @Freon914
    @Freon914 2 месяца назад +2

    This weapon is better than the kazuha red one

  • @user-ce2mm5ru7q
    @user-ce2mm5ru7q 2 месяца назад

    I was about to burn a month of farm bosses in rigtfull for cheveruse, this save almost all the resurces and fond more whit my gunner sailor
    It fix a previus weapon and even whas funnier to geth than farming boosses indefinetly

  • @arula9323
    @arula9323 2 месяца назад

    I think it mi8 be a good weapon for arlecchino especially with her mechanics just like how uktra megaa magic sword was useful for navia

  • @Lucy-og1ex
    @Lucy-og1ex 2 месяца назад

    I spent all my polearm billets to craft r5 spear and all my enhancement ores, now I have useless spear because event weapon gives me more HP which I basically need so I can change my weapon instead of changing artifacts. Though, I feel somehow scammed. Why crafted weapons are that bad

  • @wattanaKh
    @wattanaKh 2 месяца назад

    I give it to yaoyao with new healer set. And she become healer+dealer hybrid that can burst every rotation.

  • @darylewalker6862
    @darylewalker6862 2 месяца назад

    Did you know that there are TWO early-game artifact sets that give healing?! If those count as the wearer generating a heal…
    Xiangling: so you’re saying it’s another polearm for my collection?

  • @atomotron
    @atomotron 2 месяца назад

    Its a perfect Sailor Moon wand for my magical girl Mika!