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Perinheri being the Traveler but NOT a descender - oooh! That would fit with a crack theory of mine that the Traveler and the Abyss Twin have done this before, just reversed. The Abyss Twin was the Traveler, went through the "game" then the whole thing repeated (time reversed, the samsara restarted, what have you), only this time the OTHER twin is the Traveler. And Aether and Lumine _keep doing this_ over and over and over, switching roles every time. The current Abyss Twin knows this, which is why "we've always had enough time." Time means nothing if you know you'll just get another chance to try again and again. Perinheri would then be a tale of one of the times the Traveler was incarnated as the Abyss Twin. As an aside, this would be especially tragic if the curse of the hilichurls means that they don't get "reincarnated" with every cycle - they just live through it, again and again and again, unable to die/forget with everyone else when the world is reset. ("Death is just a one-time loss of memories.") Another question with a potentially tragic answer - *just how long have the twins been forced to relive this?*
Tbh considering renes world formula of how the world resets (but this time it wont) makes your theory even more likely, maybe the twins appear in every reset + ventis line of apparently seeing us before add to that too...
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something i think fits this ingame as well is the traveler constellations being called "memory of (element)", which may suggest that traveler has already mastered all of the elements to the fullest, and leveling up statues unlocks these old memories
Didn't a melusine called the traveler "a being that could devour entire worlds" in the melusine world quest? Perhaps she was able to recognize us as descenders and didn't realize it. And also the same story comes to us EVERY MONTH when the Battle pass resets... The crown heirs and the story of our journey. Perhaps we were in that orphanage and became the best. Could be the pearl our sibling was looking for the abyss power to save Kha'enria or perhaps the truth behind this world and now we depart on a journey to save the whole planet? Just my thoughts
you just summed up genshit impact, but that's where it stops, we save the world, no one knows what's gonna happen now that we reached that point of peak progress.
I believe the only people who will turn into hillichurls when leaving Khanri’ah are those who have abandoned gods they had prior to coming to Khanri’ah. Thus I think pure-blooded Khanri’ahns never transformed because they never abandoned any god. The Envoys of Khanri’ah must have also been pure-blooded if they were to leave and return safely, not (exclusively) outlanders.
wait but in that case then doesnt that debunk the kaeya half blood theory cause he would have to be pure blood to be able to leave khaenriah and enter mondstadt
👁👄👁@ayezahnouman9546 How do we know he isn't a pure blood? Also maybe the cutse in not working right now since the heavenly principal is.....sleeping? On the verge of Death, idk
@@nicolas._.2294 We know kaeya is not a pure-blood because of his pupils compared to dainslief and pierro the diamond in his pupils is half the size and has faded blue colour while pierro, dainslief and chlothar got bright blue colour And many believe why kaeya would be fine is mainly because dainslief's assumption that he found a way to get rid of the curse
Music Timestamps: 0:00 Susurrating Holt 0:30 Chaîne Signifiante (Penacony OST) 1:21 Festival of Creation (Raid Shadow: Legends) 3:05 Shade of Flowers 4:20 Quo Vadis 5:31 Qui me freine a un tel moment 7:15 The Oratrices Verdict 9:45 Chaîne Signifiante (Penacony OST) 11:25 Caliginous Hearthfire 12:29 Contemporary Testimony 14:14 Cobalt Remembrance 15:32 Tender Strength 16:53 Rex Incognito 17:16 Rondeau des fleurs et des rapieres 18:34 Sombre of the White Spring 20:14 Pathway to the Hidden Aisles 21:28 If I Can Stop One Heart From Breaking - Variation (Penacony OST) 23:21 Le Souvenir avec le crepuscule 24:34 Ballad of Many Waters Outro - kimi no toriko by heiakim
For the record, with that eye moon thing, it would more likely be a representation of the herrscher of the end, or finality. Corruption, while it also looks like a crimson eye, it bears little to no connection to the moon in comparison. The cocoon of finality, or at least the herrscher of finality (and the ends corpse) is currently on Earth's moon.
@@skybattler2624 Tbf, going off how they do Genshin, they change things when lore changes. For example, anyone who had lines about Scaramouche no longer have those lines. The lore of what happened in Inazuma changed as well. So I feel like if a playable Genshin character was to die, they would no longer be playable. This is partly why I don't want the other yaksha or Guizhong or anyone else that has died to be playable. Interesting characters NEED to STAY dead so that there remains interesting lore surrounding that death. If one of the yaksha were suddenly created to be playable it just wouldn't make any sense story or lore wise. La Signora being resurrected by the Tsaritsa via some weird power of the pyro archon gnosis would make sense because she recently died (though how they get her body idk cause if I recall the Raiden Shogun disintegrated her) and it's been hinted that there is some resurrection or SOMETHING that will happen in Natlan. But we'll have to see what happens.
@@skybattler2624 firefly's death make me fell a little while tingyun's make me feel nothing only himeko make my heart ache and only because i know himeko long enough and her death mean alot to the main cast. That why i glad they don't running around killing of playable just because they can so that when that moment come it mean something just like himeko's death
I mean, each x.6 we get something big or lore heavy reveal. So x.5 either the warm up or "filler" to prepare us for em If I count it correctly. And yes... The headache never ends when this game lore reveal is as confusing and pain in the butt to search like dark soul did😅
@@carlthomas8136 that's true... And 4.5 did give us the perinheri book. I'm probably at the group that are salty we didn't get a Dain quest in this version... Then again, there's more version before Natlan, so I'll wait for what the devs has in store for Fontaine region.
From my perspective the goal of tsarista and harbingers is the resurrection of the third descender via gathering 7gnosises!!!! And it refers to pale princesses and 6 pygmies!!!
Interesting take about Clothar, but I still believe that the Sinner removed the curse from him since we saw him use some kind of power on Clothar, then he died later. Both of our takes are very possible.
But what if the Sinner gave them directions on how to die by stepping on Khaenriahn soil? I mean cursed people are wishing for death and him grant it to them. Thats why he call himself the "sinner" cuz you know... Giving death is not a holy thing 😅
I see some theory around the Tsaritsa goal's in resurection and I do really believe she wants to resurect the third descender like Isis did with Osiris ( he would be like her lover or something ). She take the gnosis of Fontaine regardless of it having lost the dragon's authority. I'm struggling and really need more Fatui lore ...
My favourite self made "game theory" is that the genshin world is basically a simulation of sorts, Kind of like the nier universe (both automata and replicant/gestalt) in which existence doesn't makes sense. I think they are all like programs and if the programming is changed, the characters themselves would change and I think there would be a point where characters will start becoming self aware of this. I think that's the reason for the tsaritsa to "wage war" againts the heavenly principles even though she is known as "a kind archon". Characters like dainsleif and dottore might even know of this hence dottore telling nahida "the skies of teyvat are fake" therefore, in the last battle we might have to fight the archons as they are under control of the heavenly principles and changing their programming would turn them into a different person altogether. This is evident through the honkai impact universe as well since existence doesn't really makes sense. The will of the honkai would try to erase the worlds that have advanced to a certain level similar to how nier universe works (the Ai wanted to destroy civilization in an attempt to gain knowledge). I really think this would be cool if its actually true and I think they are going towards that point after replaying the honkai chapters and my love for the nier franchise
Oh and the killing of hillichurls means killing actual people is also a reference to the nier replicant/gestalt story as monsters we encounter in that game known as shades are the actual humans and the real humans are a shell
I think why the traveler is a descender is because there will to find their sibling and is willingly GO ACROSS TEVYAT FIX THEIR PROBLEMS JUST TO GET SOME ANSWERS ABOUT THEIR SIBLING. The traveler sibling did travel across teyvat but why?(from what I remember it isn’t said from dainsleif why their sibling decided to travel teyvat) Their siblings will isn’t as strong as a the traveler. If travelers sibling is an outlander then the 3rd descender is someone else but if the sibling is dead and made from the abyss they are the 3rd descender.
ngl i always thought there were other hilichurls besides khaenrians. was there really no other text confirming it? bc i swear there was either in a story quest or otherwise
So far I'm going with the opposite hypothesis: the cyclicality of the world isn't a circle, it's a helix or spiral. Despite the apparent constraint of seeking a golden ending where nobody needed to die from the start, which is ultimately driving just about every single antagonist faction and may end up driving our own actions, we are all making some progress overall towards that goal. There may be a metagame beyond the "final chapter" of the story, where we are able to replay portions and try to slowly change the world to remove some of its old scars. Granted, the only reason I'm going with this is because it appeals to me. (At the very least, I really want some kind of NG+. It's looking like once you count all the event assets the "complete game" would not be practical to sell in an offline (or peer-to-peer networked) state even for the couple hundred dollar purchase price that ought to pay for the needed added coding and packaging, and this is too good as a work of art to just allow to shut down and cease.)
What if we as traveler went to Khanriah (sorry can't spell it) are in a way perinhary (?)(the book character) but then something happened, we lost memory (selective amnesia) and then woke up in mond not remembering anything... WHAT IF we know everything but just choose not to remember? (Sorry its too outreached theory but just wanted to somehow help you with these theories) thank you for such theories! Always enjoy watching your videos! (And yes, i read the books myself in game too)
Could be a small hint into the Captain since we only know few things about him, strong sense of justice & honor(very knight like no?), he has blue eyes, amazing fighter and a mortal who wants to challenge the gods. Story honestly sounds to me that it could be hinting at Natlan, Arlecchino, and Captain . It could just be wishful thinking since I would like some more Captain lore before Natlan.
At 11:54 in the video. Abt the titanic horrified eye. Instead of herrscher of corruption, I'm thinking of a different kind of eye that seems flamboyantly gives powers to others. This could be a reference to GGZ's "Coordinator of the Will" also known as "Eye of the Universe". This entity is close to Honkai Impact 3rd's "Will of the Honkai" which gave Herrscher of Void (Sirin) additional 4 herrscher cores as well as their authorities (fire, lightning, wind, & death). This event took place AT THE MOON. "Will of the Honkai" is also the one who gave Otto the Herrscher of Binding's "authority of binding" due to an agreement. Kinda sounds like a contract. Otto's negotiation level: 9999 This fits how Perinheri would soon after became the leading figure amongst their ranks in his time. Perinheri basically received "authority of the gods" without being transformed into a god/herrscher like Otto and kept the human will.
I always thought that the endgame theme of genshin is that everyone died and the way you play the game is by accessing the leyline memory or playing the recorded memory from irminsul. The same way how you replay the memory of weekly boss.
(Using Aether as traveler and Lumine as Abyss sibling) I think perinheri being our sibling would make a lot more sense, especially since we see Lumine in the Genshin video running by the Crimson Moon. It could be them at the end of the Crimson Moon dynasty? Just something to maybe think about
Minsleif… I have an important thing to add.. If now we know that hirichurls aren’t just khaneriahns but rather people who tried to escape khaneriah due to the cataclysm.. what about kaeya. Like am I tripping? Isn’t he from khaneriah, if so.. how has he not turned yet? Perhaps you should make a video about this idea, I’d be interested to react to your opinions n research 🤍
We've known about Khaenri'ahns turning into Hilichurls the moment they leave Khaenri'ah from the documents scattered around the Ruin Golems and the Azosite Factory area in the Sumeru Desert, but at least we now know WHY they immediately transformed from the info we got from Perinheri. Thinking back to Caribert... he did erupt in some kind of purple energy storm... what if that was one of the 'fires' mentioned in Perinheri? And Caribert actually managed to do the same ritual Perinheri got through to get 'reborn' and thus have gotten rid of his cursed Khaenri'ahn status, but Clothar couldn't do the same so he actually died, with Caribert burying him with his mother? For the pure-blooded Khaenri'ahns though... we know from the Sal Vyndagnir lore that the construction of Khaenri'ah as a seperate entity started sometime after the War With The Second (because the sudden disappearance of Seelies was mentioned in the same document iirc) and before the start of the Archon War (which should have started AT LEAST 4000 years ago because Guizhong died 3700 years ago *during* the Archon War). So is it possible that the 'pureblooded' Khaenri'ahns... never really worshipped any gods to begin with?
10:34 This sketch is eerily similar to what recent chapter in HI3 part2 reveal. The middle layer (Langqiu) has been the 'buffer zone' so that the bottom layer corruption stops there and the upper layer (Oxia, which share the same continent to Langqiu before the 2 are torn apart) is safe. And there has been attempts swapping the middle layer with the top layer so that it's now top layer that has to suffer acting as 'buffer zone'. So... Is Real Sky of Khaenri'ah parallel to the Sea of Data where the corruption comes? Is the hanging Celestia parallel to Anchor of Apocalypse that is an entry point to Langqiu? Does the Abyss order wish to flip around Teyvat and Khaenri'ah position?
I don't think it's like they can't return back to humans it's mainly that they have accepted the darkness along with khaenri'an's celestia was ok with them studying about outside the world creating ruin machinary and stuff But the moment they summoned Lumine and started looking at her like a god they all got punished for it for khaenri'an lumine was the Abyss itself (it's more like they thought lumine was the only person that could've lead them outside the world to the endless Abyss just like how both twins have been traveling)
There is a theory now floating(see what I did there) that Paimon is the woman Dainsleif remembers. He can't recognize her but she has been there all along. That would be so sad.
Mmm, it’s cool to find out that “outlanders“ from I’m guessing some (or all) people in Teyvats perspective are different from “descenders.” And although the theory mentioned in the video is very possible, I’d like to think that it might be more than meets the eye? Because in the Sumeru archon quest, Nahida did find information about our sibling in Irmensul hinting at the idea something happened that led them to somehow be “of Teyvat’s world” or that something is wrong based on what we know so far. There’s so much that this could mean that it’s still hard to say what’s happening to our sibling or his history. Like, the fact that there are discrepancies with what we know about our sibling means that we can’t exactly rule out whether he’s a descender or not, meaning what makes someone a descender is still kinda up for debate. I’d subscribed to the theory I’ve heard that Teyvat is in sort of samsara and we’re living in the fourth one or something cuz I heard it first and am biased towards that. In that theory, it’s possible that our sibling ours already killed, and the Gnosises (made out of the 3rd descender’s body), might’ve been from our sibling. Then as history rewrote itself, and we’re traveling in the footsteps of our sibling, we are the heroes of our own tale. It’s just that our sibling, as the previous descender probably died along the way and as some sort of samsara happened, our sibling’s life got incorporated (edited) into Irmensul (or the fate of Teyvat). That’s why, there are times where we encounter our sibling just by the hair but we never get to talk to them meaningfully. But when they do get to talk meaningfully, we can’t touch them, and we get to see our siblings’ memories, we can’t directly interact with anyone to get the most meaningful answers. Suggesting that those times are probably from another Samsara, maybe. Also keep in mind that besides our sibling keeping tabs on us behind our backs, they might probably know which point in the journey we are in because they’ve experienced the similar journey themselves when it was their turn to be the descenders of their Samsara. That might be why they knew which point in the story we were at when they finally got to meet in Cariber’s world. But ofc, this is just a possible speculation. Take it with a grain of salt. I just wanna say that something about the lore described in this video seem to not line up with the information Nahida said at the end of her Archon quest. It’s not that they can’t line up, but the way it’s presented seems to imply a slightly different definition of what a “descender” is.
As in not just the fact that naturally for better and worse EVERYBODY DIES but that something sinister comes during and/or after death like based on the playable characters' death-animation?
I disagree. Perinheri suggests to me that the people of Teyvat are doomed to abide by the fate woven for them by the Heavenly Principles. Otherwise they are punished heavily. The red eye of the crimson moon is an allegory for the Auge der Verurteilung. The red eye of the Prinzessin capable of seeing one's fate, and the future, and peering through all illusions.
Perhaps some characters have ties to a primordial power, and are able to do things that don’t use the typical seven elements of Teyvat. Like Cyno sealing Collei’s power in Mondstadt, which is very similar to Zhongli sealing gods in Liyue. I’m curious on how he may have obtained his power.
There's a cryo lawachurl in Dragonspine named Ukko, Ukko is a person mentioned in the lore of dragonspine and he was most likely the scribe whom after the tragedy of Sal Vindagnyr decided to leave to a nation without gods, obviously Khaenri'ah, before Perinheri this didn't make a lot of sense to me because the Sal Vindagnyr was destroyed several thousand of years ago and the curse of Khaenri'ah happened just after the cataclysm 500 years ago, but now this makes a lot more sense, he probably just tried to leave Khaenri'ah, probably not even for a long time, but ended up transforming into a hilichurl and most likely by instict ended up back on his old destroyed home.
this lore bomb is so heavy in my heart, but we need more concrete proof, hoping that it would be more solidify on Dainsleif quest. Anyways, who have a link on several Khaenri'ahn video on minslief's video?
God i love genshin's lore so much. Thanks to you people who read the lore so i don't have to, i can actually enjoy it too. Also what's the song at 21:55, i remember hearing it but i can't remember where
I like where we're going with the pyro archon being dead this actually makes the lore more interesting. It could mean that we either revive the pyro archon with the seven gnosis, help of xbalanque (pyro dragon from neuvis introduction) so that she can use war to fight capitano who no one else could defeat
dang the "Black sun dynasty" the golden web videos from chrion last talk alot about what this "black sun" is (real life lore) were in the heaven of hell. the videos even talk about what the "hearth" is, the heart the home where the hearth is
Yoooo i was saying this game is getting closer and closer to real life talking about a firmament and black sun (all what some call "conspiracy theories" i don't like that word it was created by cia) but yea so cool seeing someone else recognize this
Something that is interesting about Perinheri is that the italian version is called Hleobranto Innamorato. Innamorati is the plural word for Innamorato, which is also the names of the last stock character(s) for the Commedia Dell’arte, the names which the Harbingers take inspiration from
The current arc in Honkai Impact 3rd has a bubble universe that has 4 layers, a utopian city above a "pool of shadows", a shadowy city on the other side of the pool, and a sea of shadows below the shadow city. They even visualised this in the game itself, which looks very similar to Genshin's fake sky and abyss diagrams that's been theorised that's also in this video. The utopian city is like Teyvat, colourful and peaceful, but underneath is the pool of shadows, Abyss, which leads to the shadowy city, Khaenriah, which is in danger of falling into the sea of shadows, the Void. The most interesting thing is that with certain "manipulations", you can switch the layers with each other.
I love how some phrases are just latin/slavic worlds like "khemia".. in polish is just chemistry but with "c" (chemia), which "ch" is pronounced as just "h"
Zhongli is the king of Geo, in other words he is King Yan (岩王). 阎罗王, aka 阎王 is the king of death (similar role to Hades) in certain Chinese cultures, and happens to share the exact same. Generally, King Yan is called 阎王爷 (Yán Wáng Yé, literally Lord Yan) in Chinese. While Morax is generally called 岩王帝君 (God King of Geo), he has been called the 岩王爷 (Yán Wáng Yé, Literally Lord Geo) by characters like Yanfei. I'm certain that specific phraseology is NOT a coincidence. Zhongli also happens to work in a funeral parlor. Notice how the other Original Seven we know, Venti, is also associated with death and takes the role of Charon.
i still believe that lumine or aether or "the sibling" will end up dieing and by the gods or end up like the inteyvat in kheanriah that being lumine since she has the flower
If this game takes the honkai path with beloved characters i wanna say id love to volunteer paimon as first sacrifice. So much of the questing could be done in half the time or more if i didnt have to be forced to watch paimon recap everything tht just happened, her existence is like middleschoolers trying to add a ton of words into an essay tht have no place in it just so they can meet the minimum words required for their essay
I've seen this theory that since the gnosis was created from the remains of the third descender and the futui only need the final gnosis so what if the futui are trying to reserect the third descender to defeat the sustainer
In short: Pahnes invaded that land and used some mechanism to separate the interior of the earth from the surface, creating a new version of the earth. He needed to protect whatever it was, of the invaders. I believe that there was already a civilization before Pahnes, that in the first war against the dragons they had to submit to him and the 4 shadows.Khraun-Arya certainly began to worship the goddess Arya, and the dynasty of the crimson moon was created. It is said that wolves are children of the moon and mourn the death of their mother. At one point, a group of the nation must have revolted and created the eclipse dynasty. Possibly they created the hearth house, with the intention of creating beings like the outsiders. The fireplace scene It may refer to the creation of beings through alchemy, hence the question of whether they saw the crimson moon, as the art was linked to the goddess of the moon. But they wanted someone to defeat Pahnes. I believe that The 4 descended could be 3 shadows and the traveler. Perinheri could just be Lumine, since the gender only applies to the game's MC. But Canon is Lumine being the twin of the abyss, which could possibly He may not have the will like Aether, but he has his own destiny. I believe that that not all shadows had the will to rival the world, perhaps due to their connection and submission to Pahnes. I believe that at least two shadows had this desire (unknown goddess and Seelie). If we consider the characteristics: protect the world: Aether/ create: shadow of life/ sustain: shadow of space/time, destroy: shadow of death fit with the 4 descended. I believe that at least one shadow was created with genes from primordial dragons, creating the Seelie race. When Phanes created the gnosis from the remains of the 3 descended, it may have been the Seelie who was linked to Irminsul (in the tale of the spiritual tree Pahnes needed to cut down the tree with the greatest power to repair the castle beams. Deinsleif probably knew the Seelie and was one of those outsiders who had been to the orphanage. Anyway...there are many more theories, but this is basically the iceberg
muslim genshin player here. i recently came accross the actual gate of khanriah with the whole "abadon all hope ye who enter here" achievement and everything. i found it really interesting how they placed khanrieah right in between the gate of zulqarnain and the speculated bayda harbor. To be clear zulqurnain was an ancient king before abraham's time referenced in the 18th chapter of the quran and he is said to be the man who imprisoned ya'juj and ma'juj, or gog and magog (in biblical terms). yajuj and majuj were people who created chaos wherever they went and zulqarnain, along with troops of his people, captured the people of yajuj and majuj and sealed them behind an iron wall somewhere in this world. in islamic eschatology yajuj and majuj (who have been cursed with immortality) would break through their gate and escape signaling the end of times. they would destroy most of the world with them, until an army of people would finally kill them. this not only indirectly supports the death theory, it could predict what could happen in future events. if anything it might just be a reference to the cataclysm and nothing more, i still find it interesting though.
The reveal that the Khanrians were farming outlanders makes me wonder if Kaeya is of outlander descent. Judging by his reaction to Dainsleif, he does not consider himself a pureblooded Khanrian but he also is obviously not a hilichurl. Yet now we know that outlanders make up a significant third population of the ancient nation, but them being cursed has not been mentioned before.
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To be fair all of humanity in the real world is "cursed" to die eventually. Only through Jesus can you escape that curse.
Venti's line, "oh we meet again traveler what you don't remember me, let me join journey once again" make alot of sense now
when was this?
@@sifonur if you have venti, click on his voice-overs, and the first one called “hello” is where he says this. pretty weird
Perinheri being the Traveler but NOT a descender - oooh! That would fit with a crack theory of mine that the Traveler and the Abyss Twin have done this before, just reversed. The Abyss Twin was the Traveler, went through the "game" then the whole thing repeated (time reversed, the samsara restarted, what have you), only this time the OTHER twin is the Traveler. And Aether and Lumine _keep doing this_ over and over and over, switching roles every time. The current Abyss Twin knows this, which is why "we've always had enough time." Time means nothing if you know you'll just get another chance to try again and again. Perinheri would then be a tale of one of the times the Traveler was incarnated as the Abyss Twin. As an aside, this would be especially tragic if the curse of the hilichurls means that they don't get "reincarnated" with every cycle - they just live through it, again and again and again, unable to die/forget with everyone else when the world is reset. ("Death is just a one-time loss of memories.") Another question with a potentially tragic answer - *just how long have the twins been forced to relive this?*
Tbh considering renes world formula of how the world resets (but this time it wont) makes your theory even more likely, maybe the twins appear in every reset + ventis line of apparently seeing us before add to that too...
this isn't a crack theory, it's an old and very probable theory
bro has the most underrated comment
can i have an autograph before you become famous
also you can make videos about theories cause im sure people would like to hear your theories
Well according to a piece of lore we found on top of that Neuverive or however it was spell 😅 tower at least this is out 4th time mayb?
something i think fits this ingame as well is the traveler constellations being called "memory of (element)", which may suggest that traveler has already mastered all of the elements to the fullest, and leveling up statues unlocks these old memories
Didn't a melusine called the traveler "a being that could devour entire worlds" in the melusine world quest? Perhaps she was able to recognize us as descenders and didn't realize it.
And also the same story comes to us EVERY MONTH when the Battle pass resets... The crown heirs and the story of our journey. Perhaps we were in that orphanage and became the best. Could be the pearl our sibling was looking for the abyss power to save Kha'enria or perhaps the truth behind this world and now we depart on a journey to save the whole planet?
Just my thoughts
you just summed up genshit impact, but that's where it stops, we save the world, no one knows what's gonna happen now that we reached that point of peak progress.
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fun fact: theres dead hilichurls in Autake Plains
edit: RUU, KAPATCIR IM FAMUS ✨✨
I get so sad whenever i see them TT o TT
@@Minsleifsame T-T
@@Minsleifyet we still kill them for commisions
Where is those plains ?
Where?
Damn, Dain's line about Inteyvats hits different now😭
not the raid jumpscare 😭
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@@TsukinoUtokki fun fact:there are none
I believe the only people who will turn into hillichurls when leaving Khanri’ah are those who have abandoned gods they had prior to coming to Khanri’ah. Thus I think pure-blooded Khanri’ahns never transformed because they never abandoned any god. The Envoys of Khanri’ah must have also been pure-blooded if they were to leave and return safely, not (exclusively) outlanders.
wait but in that case then doesnt that debunk the kaeya half blood theory cause he would have to be pure blood to be able to leave khaenriah and enter mondstadt
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How do we know he isn't a pure blood? Also maybe the cutse in not working right now since the heavenly principal is.....sleeping? On the verge of Death, idk
@@nicolas._.2294 We know kaeya is not a pure-blood because of his pupils compared to dainslief and pierro the diamond in his pupils is half the size and has faded blue colour while pierro, dainslief and chlothar got bright blue colour
And many believe why kaeya would be fine is mainly because dainslief's assumption that he found a way to get rid of the curse
@@ayezahnouman9546 Kaeya either broke the curse or being a half blood Albereich makes you immune to the curse.
@@kamveng453 wasn't Caribert a half blood Alberich?
Music Timestamps:
0:00 Susurrating Holt
0:30 Chaîne Signifiante (Penacony OST)
1:21 Festival of Creation (Raid Shadow: Legends)
3:05 Shade of Flowers
4:20 Quo Vadis
5:31 Qui me freine a un tel moment
7:15 The Oratrices Verdict
9:45 Chaîne Signifiante (Penacony OST)
11:25 Caliginous Hearthfire
12:29 Contemporary Testimony
14:14 Cobalt Remembrance
15:32 Tender Strength
16:53 Rex Incognito
17:16 Rondeau des fleurs et des rapieres
18:34 Sombre of the White Spring
20:14 Pathway to the Hidden Aisles
21:28 If I Can Stop One Heart From Breaking - Variation (Penacony OST)
23:21 Le Souvenir avec le crepuscule
24:34 Ballad of Many Waters
Outro - kimi no toriko by heiakim
Wow damn quick😂
Oh tysm!
Damn I didn’t know there was penacony here 😂
Genshin: *adds new book*
Minsleif: *literally buys it before it released*
For the record, with that eye moon thing, it would more likely be a representation of the herrscher of the end, or finality. Corruption, while it also looks like a crimson eye, it bears little to no connection to the moon in comparison. The cocoon of finality, or at least the herrscher of finality (and the ends corpse) is currently on Earth's moon.
that theory about the caribert quest makes the most sense out of everything I've seen floating around!! you're so smart min
Deadliest curse in Genshin is being a parent.
Siegfried Kaslana: first time???
It would be interesting if the characters died in the game but at the same time it would make me sad😿
Baiting Hoyo to really do it, aren't we? 😂
TBH, Death is mysteriously absent towards playable characters...
Meanwhile, HSR and HI3 made it fun and entertaining XD
@@skybattler2624 Tbf, going off how they do Genshin, they change things when lore changes. For example, anyone who had lines about Scaramouche no longer have those lines. The lore of what happened in Inazuma changed as well. So I feel like if a playable Genshin character was to die, they would no longer be playable.
This is partly why I don't want the other yaksha or Guizhong or anyone else that has died to be playable. Interesting characters NEED to STAY dead so that there remains interesting lore surrounding that death. If one of the yaksha were suddenly created to be playable it just wouldn't make any sense story or lore wise.
La Signora being resurrected by the Tsaritsa via some weird power of the pyro archon gnosis would make sense because she recently died (though how they get her body idk cause if I recall the Raiden Shogun disintegrated her) and it's been hinted that there is some resurrection or SOMETHING that will happen in Natlan. But we'll have to see what happens.
Honestly, dead characters being playable kinda takes away a lot of the emotional impact.
@@skybattler2624 firefly's death make me fell a little while tingyun's make me feel nothing only himeko make my heart ache and only because i know himeko long enough and her death mean alot to the main cast. That why i glad they don't running around killing of playable just because they can so that when that moment come it mean something just like himeko's death
I mean, each x.6 we get something big or lore heavy reveal. So x.5 either the warm up or "filler" to prepare us for em If I count it correctly.
And yes... The headache never ends when this game lore reveal is as confusing and pain in the butt to search like dark soul did😅
But ever since 1.5 we've been getting lore drops every x.5 version
@@carlthomas8136 that's true... And 4.5 did give us the perinheri book. I'm probably at the group that are salty we didn't get a Dain quest in this version...
Then again, there's more version before Natlan, so I'll wait for what the devs has in store for Fontaine region.
How come we never got to see the irminsul tree burning like in the sumeru trailer with dottore? I feel like everyone just forgot about that teaser
yes i want minsleif to say her insights about it
I think we might see that in natlan
That is Future content and it is said to be one of the main plot :) your welcome.
I quite know what lore is but i think we shojld wait.
Maybe because it's burnt so we all kind of forgot about it
It’s not a far fetched theory. If many gods slaughtered each other in the past, who is saying that history won’t repeat itself
From my perspective the goal of tsarista and harbingers is the resurrection of the third descender via gathering 7gnosises!!!!
And it refers to pale princesses and 6 pygmies!!!
Interesting take about Clothar, but I still believe that the Sinner removed the curse from him since we saw him use some kind of power on Clothar, then he died later. Both of our takes are very possible.
But what if the Sinner gave them directions on how to die by stepping on Khaenriahn soil?
I mean cursed people are wishing for death and him grant it to them.
Thats why he call himself the "sinner" cuz you know... Giving death is not a holy thing 😅
uh oh what a fun title
"I don't care how many fanfics you've read"
She's totally got us pegged.
I see some theory around the Tsaritsa goal's in resurection and I do really believe she wants to resurect the third descender like Isis did with Osiris ( he would be like her lover or something ). She take the gnosis of Fontaine regardless of it having lost the dragon's authority. I'm struggling and really need more Fatui lore ...
Actually Isis and Osiris are pretty similar to the resurect thing
21:58 Minsleif casually reminded me about "why do people choose to sleep" with that song
"Why does life slumber?"- Adventurine
My favourite self made "game theory" is that the genshin world is basically a simulation of sorts, Kind of like the nier universe (both automata and replicant/gestalt) in which existence doesn't makes sense. I think they are all like programs and if the programming is changed, the characters themselves would change and I think there would be a point where characters will start becoming self aware of this. I think that's the reason for the tsaritsa to "wage war" againts the heavenly principles even though she is known as "a kind archon". Characters like dainsleif and dottore might even know of this hence dottore telling nahida "the skies of teyvat are fake" therefore, in the last battle we might have to fight the archons as they are under control of the heavenly principles and changing their programming would turn them into a different person altogether. This is evident through the honkai impact universe as well since existence doesn't really makes sense. The will of the honkai would try to erase the worlds that have advanced to a certain level similar to how nier universe works (the Ai wanted to destroy civilization in an attempt to gain knowledge). I really think this would be cool if its actually true and I think they are going towards that point after replaying the honkai chapters and my love for the nier franchise
Oh and the killing of hillichurls means killing actual people is also a reference to the nier replicant/gestalt story as monsters we encounter in that game known as shades are the actual humans and the real humans are a shell
"Everything is a simulation" is a common theory that everyone who has played HI3/HSR holds, for reasons I don’t know because I have never played them.
6:22 Minsleif downbad for Dainsleif xD
I think why the traveler is a descender is because there will to find their sibling and is willingly GO ACROSS TEVYAT FIX THEIR PROBLEMS JUST TO GET SOME ANSWERS ABOUT THEIR SIBLING. The traveler sibling did travel across teyvat but why?(from what I remember it isn’t said from dainsleif why their sibling decided to travel teyvat) Their siblings will isn’t as strong as a the traveler. If travelers sibling is an outlander then the 3rd descender is someone else but if the sibling is dead and made from the abyss they are the 3rd descender.
i mean this with all my heart.. your videos have made playing genshin so much more enjoyable for me! thank you for making these videos
anytime ; -;
ngl i always thought there were other hilichurls besides khaenrians. was there really no other text confirming it? bc i swear there was either in a story quest or otherwise
So far I'm going with the opposite hypothesis: the cyclicality of the world isn't a circle, it's a helix or spiral. Despite the apparent constraint of seeking a golden ending where nobody needed to die from the start, which is ultimately driving just about every single antagonist faction and may end up driving our own actions, we are all making some progress overall towards that goal. There may be a metagame beyond the "final chapter" of the story, where we are able to replay portions and try to slowly change the world to remove some of its old scars.
Granted, the only reason I'm going with this is because it appeals to me. (At the very least, I really want some kind of NG+. It's looking like once you count all the event assets the "complete game" would not be practical to sell in an offline (or peer-to-peer networked) state even for the couple hundred dollar purchase price that ought to pay for the needed added coding and packaging, and this is too good as a work of art to just allow to shut down and cease.)
the fake sky theory is a good one but do we know if scara was talking about OUR sky or kanriahas sky?
What if we as traveler went to Khanriah (sorry can't spell it) are in a way perinhary (?)(the book character) but then something happened, we lost memory (selective amnesia) and then woke up in mond not remembering anything... WHAT IF we know everything but just choose not to remember? (Sorry its too outreached theory but just wanted to somehow help you with these theories) thank you for such theories! Always enjoy watching your videos! (And yes, i read the books myself in game too)
I had NO clue Descenders and Outsiders were similar but different. That's crazy. Thanks for your hard work!
this is my first misleif video and I'm so glad I watched it you're amazing keep it up
I read so much at work. My eyes need a rest on my days off. Tyvm for reading the GI law so I dont have to!
Bro Genshin lore is so good I love watching videos and learning more about it 😩
Could be a small hint into the Captain since we only know few things about him, strong sense of justice & honor(very knight like no?), he has blue eyes, amazing fighter and a mortal who wants to challenge the gods. Story honestly sounds to me that it could be hinting at Natlan, Arlecchino, and Captain . It could just be wishful thinking since I would like some more Captain lore before Natlan.
Omg I knew it! I figured perinheri was just a fancy word for heir, meaning prince or princess? Meaning perin heri Is the abyss sibling not traveler
At 11:54 in the video. Abt the titanic horrified eye. Instead of herrscher of corruption, I'm thinking of a different kind of eye that seems flamboyantly gives powers to others.
This could be a reference to GGZ's "Coordinator of the Will" also known as "Eye of the Universe". This entity is close to Honkai Impact 3rd's "Will of the Honkai" which gave Herrscher of Void (Sirin) additional 4 herrscher cores as well as their authorities (fire, lightning, wind, & death). This event took place AT THE MOON.
"Will of the Honkai" is also the one who gave Otto the Herrscher of Binding's "authority of binding" due to an agreement. Kinda sounds like a contract. Otto's negotiation level: 9999
This fits how Perinheri would soon after became the leading figure amongst their ranks in his time. Perinheri basically received "authority of the gods" without being transformed into a god/herrscher like Otto and kept the human will.
All that simping for the late Kallen was what drastically buffed Otto's charisma out of 5 centuries worth of desperation
I always thought that the endgame theme of genshin is that everyone died and the way you play the game is by accessing the leyline memory or playing the recorded memory from irminsul. The same way how you replay the memory of weekly boss.
Oh fuk, it's Guns Girl Z all over again
(Using Aether as traveler and Lumine as Abyss sibling) I think perinheri being our sibling would make a lot more sense, especially since we see Lumine in the Genshin video running by the Crimson Moon. It could be them at the end of the Crimson Moon dynasty? Just something to maybe think about
Genshin is so lucky to have you to explain all this bc how on earth do they expect to fit all of this in the kanriah archon quest
Minsleif… I have an important thing to add.. If now we know that hirichurls aren’t just khaneriahns but rather people who tried to escape khaneriah due to the cataclysm.. what about kaeya. Like am I tripping? Isn’t he from khaneriah, if so.. how has he not turned yet? Perhaps you should make a video about this idea, I’d be interested to react to your opinions n research 🤍
We've known about Khaenri'ahns turning into Hilichurls the moment they leave Khaenri'ah from the documents scattered around the Ruin Golems and the Azosite Factory area in the Sumeru Desert, but at least we now know WHY they immediately transformed from the info we got from Perinheri.
Thinking back to Caribert... he did erupt in some kind of purple energy storm... what if that was one of the 'fires' mentioned in Perinheri? And Caribert actually managed to do the same ritual Perinheri got through to get 'reborn' and thus have gotten rid of his cursed Khaenri'ahn status, but Clothar couldn't do the same so he actually died, with Caribert burying him with his mother?
For the pure-blooded Khaenri'ahns though... we know from the Sal Vyndagnir lore that the construction of Khaenri'ah as a seperate entity started sometime after the War With The Second (because the sudden disappearance of Seelies was mentioned in the same document iirc) and before the start of the Archon War (which should have started AT LEAST 4000 years ago because Guizhong died 3700 years ago *during* the Archon War). So is it possible that the 'pureblooded' Khaenri'ahns... never really worshipped any gods to begin with?
Your videos are incredible!
how many reviews of this book have I seen, but no one saw the thought of the impossibility of returning home
Very nice lore video, as always. However, the variety of buts in this is INSANE.
From the beginning, I felt Teyvat was the inverted land underground with a fake sky, like the anime movie Patema Inverted
10:34 This sketch is eerily similar to what recent chapter in HI3 part2 reveal.
The middle layer (Langqiu) has been the 'buffer zone' so that the bottom layer corruption stops there and the upper layer (Oxia, which share the same continent to Langqiu before the 2 are torn apart) is safe. And there has been attempts swapping the middle layer with the top layer so that it's now top layer that has to suffer acting as 'buffer zone'. So...
Is Real Sky of Khaenri'ah parallel to the Sea of Data where the corruption comes?
Is the hanging Celestia parallel to Anchor of Apocalypse that is an entry point to Langqiu?
Does the Abyss order wish to flip around Teyvat and Khaenri'ah position?
I don't think it's like they can't return back to humans it's mainly that they have accepted the darkness along with khaenri'an's celestia was ok with them studying about outside the world creating ruin machinary and stuff
But the moment they summoned Lumine and started looking at her like a god they all got punished for it for khaenri'an lumine was the Abyss itself (it's more like they thought lumine was the only person that could've lead them outside the world to the endless Abyss just like how both twins have been traveling)
There is a theory now floating(see what I did there) that Paimon is the woman Dainsleif remembers. He can't recognize her but she has been there all along. That would be so sad.
Mmm, it’s cool to find out that “outlanders“ from I’m guessing some (or all) people in Teyvats perspective are different from “descenders.” And although the theory mentioned in the video is very possible, I’d like to think that it might be more than meets the eye? Because in the Sumeru archon quest, Nahida did find information about our sibling in Irmensul hinting at the idea something happened that led them to somehow be “of Teyvat’s world” or that something is wrong based on what we know so far. There’s so much that this could mean that it’s still hard to say what’s happening to our sibling or his history. Like, the fact that there are discrepancies with what we know about our sibling means that we can’t exactly rule out whether he’s a descender or not, meaning what makes someone a descender is still kinda up for debate. I’d subscribed to the theory I’ve heard that Teyvat is in sort of samsara and we’re living in the fourth one or something cuz I heard it first and am biased towards that. In that theory, it’s possible that our sibling ours already killed, and the Gnosises (made out of the 3rd descender’s body), might’ve been from our sibling. Then as history rewrote itself, and we’re traveling in the footsteps of our sibling, we are the heroes of our own tale. It’s just that our sibling, as the previous descender probably died along the way and as some sort of samsara happened, our sibling’s life got incorporated (edited) into Irmensul (or the fate of Teyvat). That’s why, there are times where we encounter our sibling just by the hair but we never get to talk to them meaningfully. But when they do get to talk meaningfully, we can’t touch them, and we get to see our siblings’ memories, we can’t directly interact with anyone to get the most meaningful answers. Suggesting that those times are probably from another Samsara, maybe. Also keep in mind that besides our sibling keeping tabs on us behind our backs, they might probably know which point in the journey we are in because they’ve experienced the similar journey themselves when it was their turn to be the descenders of their Samsara. That might be why they knew which point in the story we were at when they finally got to meet in Cariber’s world. But ofc, this is just a possible speculation. Take it with a grain of salt. I just wanna say that something about the lore described in this video seem to not line up with the information Nahida said at the end of her Archon quest. It’s not that they can’t line up, but the way it’s presented seems to imply a slightly different definition of what a “descender” is.
hey if traveler can never leave that means we wont leave paimon and she wont be sad
As in not just the fact that naturally for better and worse EVERYBODY DIES but that something sinister comes during and/or after death like based on the playable characters' death-animation?
Nice Tevat drawing :D 10:39
I disagree. Perinheri suggests to me that the people of Teyvat are doomed to abide by the fate woven for them by the Heavenly Principles.
Otherwise they are punished heavily.
The red eye of the crimson moon is an allegory for the Auge der Verurteilung. The red eye of the Prinzessin capable of seeing one's fate, and the future, and peering through all illusions.
Wow, the RSL ad feels longer than the video
what if arlecchino is caribert's reincarnation.....
Our traveler wasn't sleeping for 500 years. He's the Perinheri for 500 years and got his memory erased somehow.
Perhaps some characters have ties to a primordial power, and are able to do things that don’t use the typical seven elements of Teyvat. Like Cyno sealing Collei’s power in Mondstadt, which is very similar to Zhongli sealing gods in Liyue. I’m curious on how he may have obtained his power.
There's a cryo lawachurl in Dragonspine named Ukko, Ukko is a person mentioned in the lore of dragonspine and he was most likely the scribe whom after the tragedy of Sal Vindagnyr decided to leave to a nation without gods, obviously Khaenri'ah, before Perinheri this didn't make a lot of sense to me because the Sal Vindagnyr was destroyed several thousand of years ago and the curse of Khaenri'ah happened just after the cataclysm 500 years ago, but now this makes a lot more sense, he probably just tried to leave Khaenri'ah, probably not even for a long time, but ended up transforming into a hilichurl and most likely by instict ended up back on his old destroyed home.
this lore bomb is so heavy in my heart, but we need more concrete proof, hoping that it would be more solidify on Dainsleif quest.
Anyways, who have a link on several Khaenri'ahn video on minslief's video?
Honkai and Genshin are connected, there are 2 different curses
Zhongli involved? Let me just get my popcorn ready
God i love genshin's lore so much.
Thanks to you people who read the lore so i don't have to, i can actually enjoy it too.
Also what's the song at 21:55, i remember hearing it but i can't remember where
The ‘red eye’ moon-isn’t that in Arlecchino’s back story too? Foreshadowing maybe, but no coincidence.
Minsleif never disappoints thanks for the video ❤
... even before Fontaine i knew that, but damn with all this Celestia *has a lot to answer for*
ok am sorry the kheanriah return and die thing is making me cry. AND ROBINS SONG MADE IT SADDER WTF
I love her videos so much bc i don't wanna read the lore but i wanna know all about it, plus she has a very relaxing voice
24:52 Animations used in this video are incredible.
Minsleif and other lore youtubers are the only thing that's keeping me from getting lost in the genshin lore
I like where we're going with the pyro archon being dead this actually makes the lore more interesting.
It could mean that we either revive the pyro archon with the seven gnosis, help of xbalanque (pyro dragon from neuvis introduction) so that she can use war to fight capitano who no one else could defeat
dang the "Black sun dynasty" the golden web videos from chrion last talk alot about what this "black sun" is (real life lore) were in the heaven of hell. the videos even talk about what the "hearth" is, the heart the home where the hearth is
Yoooo i was saying this game is getting closer and closer to real life talking about a firmament and black sun (all what some call "conspiracy theories" i don't like that word it was created by cia) but yea so cool seeing someone else recognize this
Something that is interesting about Perinheri is that the italian version is called Hleobranto Innamorato. Innamorati is the plural word for Innamorato, which is also the names of the last stock character(s) for the Commedia Dell’arte, the names which the Harbingers take inspiration from
👁👄👁 people were saying that arlechino might be connected to this book
NEW minsleif VIDEO !! Im prepared to be gagged again 🎉
The current arc in Honkai Impact 3rd has a bubble universe that has 4 layers, a utopian city above a "pool of shadows", a shadowy city on the other side of the pool, and a sea of shadows below the shadow city. They even visualised this in the game itself, which looks very similar to Genshin's fake sky and abyss diagrams that's been theorised that's also in this video.
The utopian city is like Teyvat, colourful and peaceful, but underneath is the pool of shadows, Abyss, which leads to the shadowy city, Khaenriah, which is in danger of falling into the sea of shadows, the Void. The most interesting thing is that with certain "manipulations", you can switch the layers with each other.
4:14 are those the Unknown God cubes in the sky? :0
Yeah
noooo not the raid ads returning😭😭😭😭
The raid never dies, like... They're always back😂
I mean now she can eat 😅
I love how some phrases are just latin/slavic worlds like "khemia".. in polish is just chemistry but with "c" (chemia), which "ch" is pronounced as just "h"
i would not be supprised if Khaenri'ah ware reffering to Poland being wanished from the map for 123 years 💀
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Bro not me panicking as soon as I read the title- 😭💀
Raid and Minsleif, I never thought we'd see this day lol
Omg..... idk why it never clicked about the inteyvat literally telling us about the curse in detail indirectly
The Robin theme had me tearing up on top of all the sadness T_T great video tho!
Don't deny Minsleif, she'll hit you with the "👏Clap👏Clap👏" Good ASs Lore's..there facts not fiction.
just started getting into genshin lore and i absolutely love your videos
Genshin lore gets deep and i love it
Someone to Albedo : yo mama so opd she was present before the archon war
Albedo : . . . . well actually
The Horrified Eye is from the Angel's Egg anime
i have a feeling that the horrified eye might be a ref to the will oh houkai from ggz
Zhongli is the king of Geo, in other words he is King Yan (岩王). 阎罗王, aka 阎王 is the king of death (similar role to Hades) in certain Chinese cultures, and happens to share the exact same. Generally, King Yan is called 阎王爷 (Yán Wáng Yé, literally Lord Yan) in Chinese. While Morax is generally called 岩王帝君 (God King of Geo), he has been called the 岩王爷 (Yán Wáng Yé, Literally Lord Geo) by characters like Yanfei. I'm certain that specific phraseology is NOT a coincidence.
Zhongli also happens to work in a funeral parlor. Notice how the other Original Seven we know, Venti, is also associated with death and takes the role of Charon.
cant stop thinkign rugrats when hear angelica lol. as angelica was my facerate carractor in that show when i was a kid.
i still believe that lumine or aether or "the sibling" will end up dieing and by the gods or end up like the inteyvat in kheanriah that being lumine since she has the flower
14:36
I can never unsee that cursed image
If this game takes the honkai path with beloved characters i wanna say id love to volunteer paimon as first sacrifice. So much of the questing could be done in half the time or more if i didnt have to be forced to watch paimon recap everything tht just happened, her existence is like middleschoolers trying to add a ton of words into an essay tht have no place in it just so they can meet the minimum words required for their essay
I've seen this theory that since the gnosis was created from the remains of the third descender and the futui only need the final gnosis so what if the futui are trying to reserect the third descender to defeat the sustainer
Or celestia
In short: Pahnes invaded that land and used some mechanism to separate the interior of the earth from the surface, creating a new version of the earth. He needed to protect whatever it was, of the invaders.
I believe that there was already a civilization before Pahnes, that in the first war against the dragons they had to submit to him and the 4 shadows.Khraun-Arya certainly began to worship the goddess Arya, and the dynasty of the crimson moon was created. It is said that wolves are children of the moon and mourn the death of their mother.
At one point, a group of the nation must have revolted and created the eclipse dynasty. Possibly they created the hearth house, with the intention of creating beings like the outsiders. The fireplace scene It may refer to the creation of beings through alchemy, hence the question of whether they saw the crimson moon, as the art was linked to the goddess of the moon. But they wanted someone to defeat Pahnes. I believe that The 4 descended could be 3 shadows and the traveler. Perinheri could just be Lumine, since the gender only applies to the game's MC. But Canon is Lumine being the twin of the abyss, which could possibly He may not have the will like Aether, but he has his own destiny.
I believe that that not all shadows had the will to rival the world, perhaps due to their connection and submission to Pahnes. I believe that at least two shadows had this desire (unknown goddess and Seelie). If we consider the characteristics: protect the world: Aether/ create: shadow of life/ sustain: shadow of space/time, destroy: shadow of death fit with the 4 descended. I believe that at least one shadow was created with genes from primordial dragons, creating the Seelie race. When Phanes created the gnosis from the remains of the 3 descended, it may have been the Seelie who was linked to Irminsul (in the tale of the spiritual tree Pahnes needed to cut down the tree with the greatest power to repair the castle beams. Deinsleif probably knew the Seelie and was one of those outsiders who had been to the orphanage. Anyway...there are many more theories, but this is basically the iceberg
What if they’re already dead and traversing limbo. Stuck in an ultimate war against heaven and hell/good and evil… 🤯
This further increased my guilt whenever I have to attack hillichurls. Damn you, daily commissions!
muslim genshin player here. i recently came accross the actual gate of khanriah with the whole "abadon all hope ye who enter here" achievement and everything. i found it really interesting how they placed khanrieah right in between the gate of zulqarnain and the speculated bayda harbor. To be clear zulqurnain was an ancient king before abraham's time referenced in the 18th chapter of the quran and he is said to be the man who imprisoned ya'juj and ma'juj, or gog and magog (in biblical terms). yajuj and majuj were people who created chaos wherever they went and zulqarnain, along with troops of his people, captured the people of yajuj and majuj and sealed them behind an iron wall somewhere in this world. in islamic eschatology yajuj and majuj (who have been cursed with immortality) would break through their gate and escape signaling the end of times. they would destroy most of the world with them, until an army of people would finally kill them. this not only indirectly supports the death theory, it could predict what could happen in future events. if anything it might just be a reference to the cataclysm and nothing more, i still find it interesting though.
I can't , those "BUTS" 😂😂😂
I'm starting to think that the anime will focus on the story of the traveller during the cataclysm.
The reveal that the Khanrians were farming outlanders makes me wonder if Kaeya is of outlander descent. Judging by his reaction to Dainsleif, he does not consider himself a pureblooded Khanrian but he also is obviously not a hilichurl. Yet now we know that outlanders make up a significant third population of the ancient nation, but them being cursed has not been mentioned before.