2024 Fiat Panda Hybrid - is it any good?

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • While in Turin, we tested a brand new Fiat Panda Hybrid - a very mild hybrid with a ZERO NCAP safety rating! But is it any good?
    Also includes a Tata Indica sighting because this is HubNut. Thanks to ‪@alsodriven‬ for the camera work.
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    #fiatpanda #hybrid #roadtest

Комментарии • 384

  • @matthewwebber2225
    @matthewwebber2225 5 месяцев назад +35

    'Panda' is an institution and arguably one of the last few/new analogue cars on sale today. An endangered species, truly.

    • @joshuuaaaa440
      @joshuuaaaa440 5 месяцев назад +9

      No auto head lights , no lane assist or any of that crap ! Absolute bliss

  • @barrywebber100
    @barrywebber100 5 месяцев назад +36

    I love Fiat Panda's, we had an '07 version for 7 years and it was brilliant and never let us down!
    Thanks for posting.

    • @davidmccready6471
      @davidmccready6471 5 месяцев назад +3

      Me too a black limited edition 360 SD57WEK which I bought as a stop gap and ended up keeping it for about 3 years, last I looked its MOT expired in 2022 so no doubt finally went to the scrapyard but good to know it lasted 4-5 years after I sold it.

  • @caw25sha
    @caw25sha 5 месяцев назад +122

    I suppose a Panda hybrid runs on petrol and bamboo shoots.
    I'll get me coat.

    • @tonys1636
      @tonys1636 5 месяцев назад +7

      Bamboo can be fermented into alcohol so in theory a Panda can be run on Bamboo.

    • @thatcheapguy525
      @thatcheapguy525 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@tonys1636 lol, you beat me to it

    • @armorer94
      @armorer94 5 месяцев назад +2

      I like bamboo!

  • @goldieandblackie
    @goldieandblackie 5 месяцев назад +31

    Have we gone back in a Time Machine with your 1980s Mullet 😂

    • @johnsheppard7935
      @johnsheppard7935 5 месяцев назад +4

      Surly we have - business at the front, party at the back!

  • @andrewmoorhouse687
    @andrewmoorhouse687 5 месяцев назад +5

    We hired a Panda last year in Crete for our holiday. We loved it. Just a really decent likable small car and clearly good value. Ours was a diesel, but it was pretty quiet, romped along nicely and sipped fuel. Its size meant it was perfect on some of Crete’s narrow roads and was a doddle to park in the cities. We did quite a lot of fairly long days in it and it was never less than a pleasure. I loved its simplicity by modern car standards too. No gimmicks, just sensible transport. The type we could do with more of I would suggest.

    • @bibikos87
      @bibikos87 5 месяцев назад

      🎉🎉🎉 greetings from greece !!! ❤❤❤

  • @alfasudoro
    @alfasudoro 15 дней назад

    Recently I was in Italy and rented a car. Although I had planned to get a slightly larger model, because there was nothing else available at the time, I got a Fiat Panda Hybrid. I reluctantly accepted the car and after a few hundred kilometers I started to like the little Panda. Especially the noiselessness on the highway, the comfort on the terribly bad roads in Italy and the economical use of the engine. The Panda also proved to be easy to park in the crowded Italian streets. A big plus. I could always squeeze it in somewhere at the hotel. All in all, I have really come to appreciate the Panda Hybrid and my top tip for a rental car in Italy is to rent a Panda instead of a larger car if you do not need much space because the space in the streets is limited and the car feels much bigger while driving. I was pleasantly surprised.

  • @PenryMMJ
    @PenryMMJ 5 месяцев назад +10

    Now that's got me looking through the classifieds at older and cheaper Pandas. I bet I'm not the only one looking 😁

  • @jeb1683
    @jeb1683 5 месяцев назад +7

    What a charming little car- to think these may well be outlawed within 10 years is concerning. You get the best bits of hybrid running and the charm of the plucky 3cyl. There's a lot to be said for these runabouts!

    • @cornishhh
      @cornishhh 5 месяцев назад +2

      I don't think cars like this will be outlawed.

    • @jeb1683
      @jeb1683 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@cornishhh let's hope not!

  • @russellbrowning2732
    @russellbrowning2732 5 месяцев назад +4

    We have a 2004, had it since new. Great little town car.

  • @ncb_uk
    @ncb_uk 5 месяцев назад +2

    Road test on the Rental car, Proper Hubnut. I drove an original Panda when they first came out while working at a Fiat Dealer. Wasn't as comfy as my 127 with the deckchair thin seats. We sold loads of them though.

    • @chrisdowns1987
      @chrisdowns1987 5 месяцев назад +2

      We had them as courtesy cars when I was at a Fiat dealer. Always had a go in them, amazing fun, very italian & always put a smile on your face 😂 I definitely prefered the 1.2 to the 1.1 or Multijet though.

  • @sirrustalots
    @sirrustalots 5 месяцев назад +8

    I paid £6500 for one brand new in 2015. Great car.
    9 years later its price has doubled, pss take.

  • @Grimwriggler
    @Grimwriggler 5 месяцев назад +4

    A Very likable town car Ian. i saw a 66 Seat 600 and an 81 Bedford CF camper yesterday around Torrevieja

  • @HenrikScheel_
    @HenrikScheel_ 5 месяцев назад +2

    Panda always had class leading headroom for it's size - like them on holidays

  • @MattBrownbill
    @MattBrownbill 5 месяцев назад +10

    In my opinion, euro ncap is now a pointless rating system. It used to be a good indicator of a car's actual safety. Having a lane departure beep doesn't mean it is better in an oblique impact for instance.
    On another subject, if you want putting off 3-pots, come and drive my dad's Up! 😂

  • @lordelpus2099
    @lordelpus2099 4 месяца назад

    Still got my 07. Starts first time, every time.

  • @CauliflowerMcPugg
    @CauliflowerMcPugg 5 месяцев назад +4

    Nice little review on a nice little car .

  • @69Phuket
    @69Phuket 5 месяцев назад +4

    NCAP ratings is why safety sallies buy monster SUV's that chew up roads etc etc etc...

  • @anthonybrunotheodd
    @anthonybrunotheodd 3 месяца назад

    Reminds me of my 2014 XV Crosstrek hybrid. Except I’ve got a cvt and I can drive around on electric power only.

  • @AlejjSi
    @AlejjSi 5 месяцев назад

    Oh, you've been to Italy recently too 😁When I was there, I discovered why there are many 2nd generation cars in my country (including mine) and not much 3rd generation cars. That's because they're all in Italy 😁

  • @jr-hr2mw
    @jr-hr2mw 5 месяцев назад +5

    Radar brakes stopped a Transit from rear ending me at 30+mph once. Not stupid as far as I'm concerned

    • @johnmoruzzi7236
      @johnmoruzzi7236 5 месяцев назад

      That means DRVERS are unsafe, NOT the cars…..

    • @jr-hr2mw
      @jr-hr2mw 5 месяцев назад

      @@johnmoruzzi7236Unfortunately sir drivers are driving the cars. Active safety aids stopping them from doing it badly can only be a good thing

    • @johnmoruzzi7236
      @johnmoruzzi7236 5 месяцев назад

      @@jr-hr2mw Only if you are honest and rate additional features seperately, instead of retrospectively condemning cars that are and were otherwise perfectly acceptable.

  • @mattw8332
    @mattw8332 5 месяцев назад +8

    13 year production run for the Panda and 16/17 years for the 500. Fiat came up trumps with these models.

    • @cornishhh
      @cornishhh 5 месяцев назад +1

      It's a shame their bigger cars are so forgettable.

    • @northstar1950
      @northstar1950 5 месяцев назад

      The first Pandas were made in 1980.

    • @mattw8332
      @mattw8332 5 месяцев назад

      @@northstar1950 Yeah meant this generation Panda (mark 4?).

  • @mfitzy100
    @mfitzy100 5 месяцев назад

    They are still brilliant value considering the prices of new cars today. Just under €17k over here in Ireland for a brand new one.

  • @UrbanNomad883
    @UrbanNomad883 2 месяца назад

    Waiting for the 2024 Grande Panda which is launching soon.

  • @bigjohno242
    @bigjohno242 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love Fiat Pandas full stop !

  • @stevekenilworth
    @stevekenilworth Месяц назад

    the way i see it hybrid only to accommodate the extra weight, if it was the small diesel like older gen cars it prob get far more mpg. my next car im going for a newer version of my current car they say it getup to 50mpg no hybrid just small petrol and only 1150kg dry weight so about 1.2 a 100kg more than my current car but gets 10mpg more. lightness and reasonable power is load fun. next car i plan to keep for few decades, but it fully loaded like pan sunroof its huge, heated seats and wheel, two 12v 180w plugs plus usb, adaptive cruise , front rear censors, adjustable speed on rear wiper, adjustable boot floor, lane assist what can be turned off same as parking censors, climate control, cooled glove box, the list goes on and this is a small city car, don't have sat nav but that a good thing as just a thing to stop working as many use 3g signal. if i go modern its very top spec small car as its a car i keep for a very long time and size is just about correct it plenty for me and if i get family it still be good, if i go modern i stay with same engine 1.2 as ive had older version for 4 and half years its great and it performs well for it size and learned a lot things what can fail at certain age like tension fail or chain stretch at around 100k so just knowing that it be easy to change before that and double its life as that main killer for those engines everything is pretty good and been very reliable same tax as my current £35 for now but euro 6 not euro 4 that may be useful when euro 7 comes out as fraud city zones may change exemption rules. trying to plan ahead and if i start of cheap tax it take longer before it goes insane is the plan, what ever car i get old kei van or modern both get rust protection and very high maintenance, the most i ever plan on spending on a car so it must last a long time

  • @matthewwakeham2206
    @matthewwakeham2206 4 месяца назад

    My e-bike has a 468wh battery. Good for about 20 miles (hybrid mode). The panda has a 100wh battery good for not much I should think!

    • @HubNut
      @HubNut  4 месяца назад +1

      The battery here is only really boosting stop start capability and adding all of about 1bhp to engine power sometimes.

  • @iCarlosPro
    @iCarlosPro 5 месяцев назад

    Panda’s new version, called Pandina, adds a lot of modern safety features, so security will no longer be a concern in this car. At least, no more than other cars. It will be on the roads soon, and will be made until at least 2027, according to Fiat. There will be a new Panda, electric, soon too.

    • @HubNut
      @HubNut  5 месяцев назад

      Not sure software can really raise the safety failings. They just have to fit this stuff if they want to keep selling them.

    • @iCarlosPro
      @iCarlosPro 5 месяцев назад

      @@HubNut The have added all the ADAS required and revised and improved the chassis. It will be up to the newest standard.

  • @nickc4518
    @nickc4518 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nothing compares to a Hubnut Road test.

  • @niklaswejedal463
    @niklaswejedal463 5 месяцев назад

    The only SUV-like car that I would consider owning - for a start, it is exactly the correct size and secondly and most importantly - totally free of all that premium-nonsens that plague all cars these days. I'd have one in that fetching Fanta-orange/yellow that flashes by in the background on several occasions - yummy! (Again - the italian traffic is just delicious to watch. Oh, to live in a place where Lancia Ypsilons, Fiat Pandas and other tiny latin cars litter the streets - sweet!)

  • @MyFabian94
    @MyFabian94 5 месяцев назад +3

    It's a Dynastart Plus.

  • @Mouse2113
    @Mouse2113 5 месяцев назад

    Panda heaven over there, I must visit ;-)

  • @paulwatts2192
    @paulwatts2192 5 месяцев назад +2

    Perfect city car.

  • @thomasalbrecht5914
    @thomasalbrecht5914 5 месяцев назад

    On many roads in the mountains of Italy, in the colder seasons a small change for the worse in weather conditions can mean that it will be mandatory to have snow chains in the car, which you may be asked to display in a police control. That’s why Fiat’s PR people provide the test cars accordingly, rightfully guessing that the basic journalist won’t think of bringing his own, or else will forget his own in the boot so the PR people will have to send them to the journo.

  • @mitchurchin2
    @mitchurchin2 5 месяцев назад

    As a member of zipcar, I’ve driven a fair few Fiat 500 Hybrids. Personally, I can’t see the point. The fuel economy is usually around 47mpg, not bad, but less than my Mini SD which has never dropped below 53 in its 53000 miles. I had a Panda once whilst our Multipla was dissected for a gearbox fault. Simple motoring, a box on wheels. Simple as that.

  • @martinclapton2724
    @martinclapton2724 5 месяцев назад +1

    I always thought the stop -start actually eats into batteries charge prematurely, although don’t know how this would be affected being a hybrid. Nice Fiat though.

    • @HubNut
      @HubNut  5 месяцев назад +2

      This has a separate battery to start the engine and provide a very slight power boost when accelerating.

  • @eddieallen6401
    @eddieallen6401 5 месяцев назад

    Fabulously simple car.

  • @huwkelvinmorgan3575
    @huwkelvinmorgan3575 5 месяцев назад

    It looks a very nice panda i have always wondered if stopping and starting an engine drops the temperature and effects the MPG ? in a hybrid . I drive a panda from 2009 have done for years i recommend them if you want a cheap car that runs very frugally.

  • @karp6130
    @karp6130 4 месяца назад

    The bonnet lid insulation is missing.

    • @HubNut
      @HubNut  4 месяца назад

      There isn't any from the factory. Have driven a TwinAir 4x4 that was the same.

  • @garymillerlcs
    @garymillerlcs 5 месяцев назад

    Great video. We really enjoyed that. It’s good to see a decent sensible simple is still allowed to be sold in the EU. The hybrid bit is obviously pointless but presumably ticks a box to keep the EU bureaucrats off Fiat’s back. Hopefully it can be switched off. Otherwise great car and with a proper manual gearbox thank God.

    • @HubNut
      @HubNut  5 месяцев назад +1

      It isn't very much a hybrid. Best to think of it as an improved stop/start. You don't even have to think about it.

    • @garymillerlcs
      @garymillerlcs 5 месяцев назад

      @@HubNut Oh I see. I understand now. Thanks very much for taking the time to reply!

  • @grrfy
    @grrfy 5 месяцев назад

    The stop start on Hondas (only one have experience of) seem to eat batteries.I wonder if there really is any eco saving

    • @HubNut
      @HubNut  5 месяцев назад

      This one uses a separate battery rather than relying on the 12v one.

    • @grrfy
      @grrfy 5 месяцев назад

      @@HubNut ah I did wonder ,that seems a little more thought out.

  • @iansavage2885
    @iansavage2885 Месяц назад

    8.28 mins......The previous renter maybe was English, so would have set the body computer to MPH, but you could have set it for KPH..

  • @BReal-10EC
    @BReal-10EC 5 месяцев назад

    I am disappointed Fiat didn't offer that Panda in the US. That's a great city car (for the price- assuming it's under 20k US based on conversions)! All they wanted to sell in the US was the 500 and 500L (sigh) and 500X (sigh). Just offer the Panda! Though they would have needed more engine for the US market. The only new cars for sale under 20k in the US right now are: Mitsubishi Mirage (but it's gone after this year), but it gets really expensive for what it is with options- though that inline 3 is a gem of an engine and seems to last, and then the crazy good deal Nissan Versa for 18k.. which basically is the last truly cheap new car in the US as it comes well equipped even in base form (122 hp, power windows/locks, cruise, a/c, tilt/tele, etc). Then at around 20k is where the little crossovers start- Venue, Soul (Still great value as base Soul is 2.0 + iCVT)), Niro, etc. So this Panda would have been a tiny crossover with some personality for cheaper than the boring ones.

    • @HA05GER
      @HA05GER 5 месяцев назад

      Why would it need more engine? You have 1l eco boost I've never understood why you need big engines. My big "minivan" will do 130 and it'll tow 5000lbs.

    • @BReal-10EC
      @BReal-10EC 5 месяцев назад

      @@HA05GER I was looking at it from a "sell enough to matter" angle. It's just the buyers here want more torque and an automatic to keep up with the crazy traffic. The 1.0 ecoboost Fords sold like cold potatoes. That engine also seems to be 100k miles and throw it away. Personally, I would take that panda just the way it is... but I like small manual cars that require lots of shifting (had lots of small four banger cars- Miatas and hatchbacks). I am not the typical US buyer.

    • @HA05GER
      @HA05GER 5 месяцев назад

      @@BReal-10EC it just makes no sense. Let's look a classic American car a crown Vic now that has pretty much identical figures in torque to my 2l car. I get the whole truck thing that makes sense but for a standard car we are pretty close we just don't do many autos. The ecoboosts definitely isn't a great engine I've literally just bought one but it's had a brand new engine from ford and will always be looked after by ford. Alot of problem with these highly strung little engines is they just aren't maintained properly. My mate who runs a dealership recons a majority of the time it's down to poor maintenance that the ecoboosts fail. People take them to a garage that's cheap that puts cheap shit oil in there 25k car and wonder why it breaks. Do they not maintain cars aswell over the pond maybe lazy underpowered engines tend to be a bit less bothered if you don't look after them. It just doesn't make sense why wouldn't you want a cheaper more economical car especially if you're on a lower income. Most our cars are pretty decent and usually end up scrapped because they fail an MOT and usually it'll be something like rust that just isn't worth repairing. In warmer climates that just wouldn't be a problem.

  • @hectorshouse7348
    @hectorshouse7348 5 месяцев назад +4

    I really miss the tinkering days

  • @Rapscallion2009
    @Rapscallion2009 5 месяцев назад +1

    The hybrid system founds a lot like suzukis...

  • @squirrel6158
    @squirrel6158 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ian what happened to your legendary “wooosh “ 😢😢😢😢😢

  • @neilfoster814
    @neilfoster814 5 месяцев назад +1

    As a staunch anti electric car person, I don't think electric cars have a future until at least 2196, the petrol/diesel hybrid is a MUCH better option. That little 3 pot engine is shouting "Mama mia, lets-a make-a some noise!" and sounds great! Nice styling too, not the car to go on a family road trip of Europe, but for the Mrs going shopping, or dropping little Hermione at pony club, it's perfect.

  • @philsladen9918
    @philsladen9918 5 месяцев назад +1

    I've had cars where the engine would stop but the problem they wouldn't start so I don't know how I would feel about stop start

  • @markpitt5248
    @markpitt5248 5 месяцев назад

    Is it me but does it feel like at every step it’s a compromise?

    • @HubNut
      @HubNut  5 месяцев назад +1

      In hybrid terms, perhaps though the battery actually has more capacity than an original Honda Insight. Very much the same sort of thing.

    • @markpitt5248
      @markpitt5248 5 месяцев назад

      @@HubNut it’s not just the hybrid part, I’m thinking the styling as well. It has nice touches but it feels like they had to play it very safe.

  • @torresalex
    @torresalex 5 месяцев назад +57

    I utterly love these simple, non-fussy cars. No stupid touchscreen, no ridiculous digital display, no moronic superfluous gimmicks.

  • @julianevans9548
    @julianevans9548 5 месяцев назад +14

    Euro NCAP is now a joke. Giving cars zero stars because they don't have the various needless and annoying bongs - or steering that veers you into oncoming traffic - is clown-tastic.

    • @jaywalker1233
      @jaywalker1233 4 месяца назад

      the numerous gizmos demanded by NCAP are in fact a major driver distraction (and therefore a significant safety hazard) requiring the driver to look away from the ‘road ahead’ at menus and touchscreens - the exact same reason mobile phones are banned! Basically NCAP is in the pockets of the manufacturers

    • @jaywalker1233
      @jaywalker1233 4 месяца назад

      the numerous gizmos demanded by NCAP are in fact a major driver distraction (and therefore a significant safety hazard) requiring the driver to look away from the ‘road ahead’ at menus and touchscreens - the exact same reason mobile phones are banned! Basically NCAP is in the pockets of the manufacturers

  • @iainmacleod4007
    @iainmacleod4007 5 месяцев назад +37

    I am a FIAT Panda fan and I get ridiculed at work for it. Had a succession of diesel (Multijet) models from 2006 until 2015 all were mark 2 models. Two are still on the road. I think that this latest hybrid version is a logical evolution of this classic design.

    • @19jacobob93
      @19jacobob93 5 месяцев назад +6

      I would own a diesel variant in a heartbeat!

    • @graemew7001
      @graemew7001 5 месяцев назад +6

      People who ridicule them have never owned one, had my 2011 for 3 1/2 yrs now and will be replacing it with another when the time comes, its on 122k, it suits my needs perfectly and returns high 40's mpg constantly from a 1.2 petrol, driven normally without economy in mind.

    • @benholroyd5221
      @benholroyd5221 5 месяцев назад +3

      I loved my panda.
      Cheap to run, fun to drive, the van shape means you can fit a lot in it.
      So your work colleagues are wrong.

    • @iainmacleod4007
      @iainmacleod4007 5 месяцев назад +1

      James May was not wrong on this one. He actually owned one and thought they were a brilliant little car.

    • @graemew7001
      @graemew7001 5 месяцев назад

      @@iainmacleod4007 He was the one who put me onto them and I always said when I get in the position to have another car I'm having one, I haven't regretted that decision once.

  • @arieplomp8906
    @arieplomp8906 5 месяцев назад +14

    I love the panda’s 🐼 The first ones untill this latest one! No nonsense cars with lots of driving fun ! And what makes a car safe , i think a sensible driver!

  • @johnwinters4201
    @johnwinters4201 5 месяцев назад +87

    Like the Zoe. It's not that the car has got any less safe - just that the test has changed a lot.

    • @jfv65
      @jfv65 5 месяцев назад +16

      As long as motorbikes and classic cars are still on the roads those Euro-NCAP ratings mean nothing to me.

    • @solitaryclusterofneurons598
      @solitaryclusterofneurons598 5 месяцев назад +29

      It's not actually an unsafe car, it just doesn't weigh 2-tonnes.
      Vehicle safety regulations need a massive revamp imo; we can't just keep making cars bigger/heavier to be safer, then having to be even bigger/heavier to be safe against the previous gen of cars made bigger/heavier to be safer, ad infinitum.

    • @stepheng8779
      @stepheng8779 5 месяцев назад +8

      Wrong, they took a lot out of the Zoe, it got a lot less safe

    • @SusieSmart
      @SusieSmart 5 месяцев назад +9

      So Renault’s decision to take out the side head airbags causing the dummy to collide with the pole during the side impact test means the car hasn’t gotten less safe?

    • @user-xu5vl5th9n
      @user-xu5vl5th9n 5 месяцев назад +10

      The safety rating needs to focus on what happens if you do have a crash, i.e. how will the car protect the occupants. But instead they focus on electronic gimmicks that supposedly prevent the driver from crashing in the first place.

  • @graemew7001
    @graemew7001 5 месяцев назад +15

    I love my 2011 Panda so going by this test I'll be driving Panda's for many years to come as I really don't see me ever needing to run anything else, it suits my needs perfectly and being the age I am (54) I don't see me ever needing a bigger car.

  • @crunchinjelly
    @crunchinjelly 5 месяцев назад +14

    Watching this video, I can’t get over how the streets are absolutely full of small cars. So refreshing to what we have over here with cars far too big for our roads.

    • @HubNut
      @HubNut  5 месяцев назад +3

      Yes, this struck me too. SUVs are actually quite rare.

    • @megapangolin1093
      @megapangolin1093 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@HubNut Cos the Italians are known for not showing off how rich they are to dodge the tax man...

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@megapangolin1093 Nice xenophobic stereotype. Look at the UK - a country whose laws favours the wealthy so much, they don't need to be corrupt. "The Duke of Westminster, one of the richest men in Britain, reportedly inherited the bulk of his father's £8.3bn fortune without having to pay a penny in death duties." - to give just one example.

    • @megapangolin1093
      @megapangolin1093 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@julianevans9548 It was a simple joke, in fact the Brits flaunt their wealth and they like you to know you know they are dodging tax if they are very rich it is a form of patronisation. The Italians dodge tax more quietly.

    • @FotisFotiou
      @FotisFotiou 5 месяцев назад

      Also most of them are FIATs and Lancias!

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 5 месяцев назад +11

    "Smells like things are burning" - Well it is italian, they're known for having electricity escaping their wiring... :P

  • @daniellee9015
    @daniellee9015 5 месяцев назад +12

    Absolutely brilliant video Ian ❤👍what a lovely car I'm not surprised it's still in production brilliant

  • @armorer94
    @armorer94 5 месяцев назад +3

    Pure electrics? Nope.
    Hybrid electrics? Possibly.

  • @easybeat
    @easybeat 5 месяцев назад +9

    I've got 10 plate "169" 1.2 model and it's truly brilliant in traffic and for parking. Great on narrow county roads if I take it into the Dales. People can keep their behemoths. Ample performance on open road. Prefer square styling with old model, but this looks like a more refined proposition. Nice video.

  • @terryatkinson899
    @terryatkinson899 5 месяцев назад +5

    Hope the panda is well looked after, I'll buy it when it's 10 years old 😂👍🇮🇪

  • @misterchippie
    @misterchippie 5 месяцев назад +37

    All Pandas should be black and white!

    • @johnsheppard7935
      @johnsheppard7935 5 месяцев назад +1

      I have a Panda - its white and black.

  • @MrGaryRoberton
    @MrGaryRoberton 5 месяцев назад +35

    Electric Fords are doing so well in N.America, they have stopped production for 2&1/2 years, and laid off hundreds of workers. It is refreshing to see a vehicle that people actually like for a change.

    • @CaptHollister
      @CaptHollister 5 месяцев назад +13

      No, they haven't. In fact, Mach E's and Lightnings are so common around here that you tend to not notice them anymore. What Ford has done, is reduce production of these two models, not because they aren't selling, but because the year-over-year *increase* in sales is not as great as predicted. Read that again, sales are increasing, but at a slower rate than predicted, in part because Tesla has started a price war in the segment occupied by the Mach E. They have also delayed plans for a couple of battery factories, for the same reason. No offense, but it's pretty silly to believe that they completely stopped producing EVs, and for 2 1/2 years, no less.

    • @Zeem4
      @Zeem4 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@CaptHollister Don't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

    • @fugawiaus
      @fugawiaus 5 месяцев назад

      @@CaptHollisterboth ford and GM have stated they are shutting down production of EVs due to the fact they can’t sell them. The showrooms are full and they can’t shift them. The dealers have even written a letter to bumbling Biden asking him to back off with the ev mandates due to lack of sales.
      Ford and GM have lost billions due to EVs. They can’t keep going losing money on these things.

    • @johnn17golf
      @johnn17golf 5 месяцев назад +2

      You need to get new sources, Gary! You're being taken for a ride and they are not looking out for your best interests, nor for US car makers.

    • @HEMI345S
      @HEMI345S 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@CaptHollisterIn fact they loose a few tens of thousands for every one they sell, both Ford and GM 😂😂😂

  • @notrut
    @notrut 5 месяцев назад +6

    Years ago I had an old 3 pot 1.2 Subaru Justy 4x4 ... Totally unstoppable in any depth of Snowfall/Ice.
    It was replaced by a nearly new Fiat Panda FWD 1.2 ... and was equally capable and unstoppable as the Subaru.
    It was replaced by a new FIAT Bravo 1.8 .... 8 years and 90,000 mile, and never missed a beat.

  • @johnslater5786
    @johnslater5786 5 месяцев назад +4

    The NCAP ratings have lost all credibility

  • @smoothmicra
    @smoothmicra 5 месяцев назад +4

    I like the Panda, lovely chunky design, just a bit dated and overpriced for what it is these days.

  • @NenadTrajkovic
    @NenadTrajkovic 5 месяцев назад +7

    I was at the car show in Belgrade, and as a former Fiat Punto driver, the new Panda delighted me. Now it's a good-sized car.

  • @keoun9759
    @keoun9759 5 месяцев назад +5

    I've always said a relatively small battery providing assistance setting off / acceleration is all a hybrid needs to do. Keep the revs as smooth as possible so the engine doesn't need to work as hard.
    My hybrid, granted it's quite old now, switches to 'zero emission' mode too often and fully drains the battery very quickly just for the engine to do all the work while it recharges.

  • @toyotaprius79
    @toyotaprius79 5 месяцев назад +3

    A glorified 12 volt MEH that would be fit for the 1980s a hybrid it does not make.
    Honestly with the news of the 500e in the US maybe getting a REx, it's glaring to me how poorly served the Panda and 500 have been in the last decade of crossover inflation. Fiat has had hybrid concepts for years dismissed by FCA leadership. The Twin Air would be a perfect contender for a more substantial but still modest "pancake motor" hybrid similar to Honda's IMA or Kia's hybrids.

  • @loufadoros20
    @loufadoros20 5 месяцев назад +3

    I had a panda cross as a rental in Greece this Christmas holidays and I loved it and the suspension on it compared to a regular one was more forgiving.

  • @Bikeaddict4235
    @Bikeaddict4235 5 месяцев назад +3

    My wife had 2019 panda 4x4 twin air , it moos as it sets off 😂
    I’ve tried for the last 2 years to talk her into getting something else but she just won’t let it go .
    We just did 2k miles to the French alps and back in it without a hitch .

  • @allenmontrasio8962
    @allenmontrasio8962 5 месяцев назад +4

    In Italy, the Panda is the elderly ladies' transport of choice. My mother, mother in law and my best friend's mother all have one. It's brilliant around town.

    • @HEMI345S
      @HEMI345S 5 месяцев назад

      Do they share it every other 2 weeks 😂😂😂

    • @allenmontrasio8962
      @allenmontrasio8962 5 месяцев назад

      @@HEMI345S nope, each has their own 😅

  • @djhvideo
    @djhvideo 5 месяцев назад +3

    Technically a Mild Hybrid, probably with a 48V battery

  • @phillipsharpe6459
    @phillipsharpe6459 5 месяцев назад +1

    Stop start, the baine of my life personally i hate it , i have a mk2 Nissan juke and it only works when it wants to, if anyone knows how to turn the bloody thing off please tell me ,

  • @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain
    @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain 5 месяцев назад +4

    An excellent little review of an adorable little Fiat

  • @andrewgardner9615
    @andrewgardner9615 5 месяцев назад +1

    Had one of these when on holiday in Italy in 2023-couldn't understand how the hybrid system was supposed to work-Are you supposed to take the car out of gear and coast?This seems a bit odd with stop start kicks in at 18mph(30kph).Unsafe?

    • @HubNut
      @HubNut  5 месяцев назад +1

      You are. Agree it feels very odd to do. The stop-start also helps with lowering emissions though I doubt it makes a vast difference.

  • @pdtech4524
    @pdtech4524 5 месяцев назад +4

    Great little cars, I'm slightly biased as for the last 5 years I've owned the same car but in a 4x4 flavour with the Twinair engine, just 875cc 2 cylinders but it developes 85bhp, has a much lighter engine, no weighty hybrid batteries, motors and all the electronics to lug around so is far more nimble and I dare say more economical?
    If that 1.0 3 cylinder unit put out a bit more than 70bhp I'd be very tempted.😊

    • @allen_key
      @allen_key 5 месяцев назад +1

      Is it dark green?

    • @pdtech4524
      @pdtech4524 5 месяцев назад

      @@allen_key I looked at a dark green one, even put a deposit on it before this Ltd edition Antarctica model came up, which was less money, less miles, all round better car.
      It's white with a black roof, all the same black trim as this one etc but it has those orange/ yellow mirrors, orange and grey interior with the grey / silver panel around the dash, this colour varies depending which model, the green one had a copper colour panel around the dash.
      It should have penguin decals on the front doors but mine was de-penguined thank goodness!!
      Otherwise people will be following me thinking I work at a penguin sanctuary! 😳😲
      The Fiat panda 🐼 antarctica TV ad is on yt worth a watch, quite comical...😁👍
      The green colour does have that countryside 4x4 farm look about it though.

    • @allen_key
      @allen_key 5 месяцев назад +1

      The penguin stickers are a must have! It's so random. Does the key fob relate to a penguin as well?
      The colour I have is seen at 8:12

    • @pdtech4524
      @pdtech4524 5 месяцев назад +1

      Nice colour! That's the same colour my mirrors are meant to be, previous owner changed them to white, will be changing them soon!
      But definitely no penguins! 😲😳😁 not even on the key fob!
      The green one I looked at first was the 1.3 diesel, I was on the fence re the Twinair, my instincts were saying stick with the diesel until I took a test drive in the Twinair and I was convinced that was the one.
      You quickly forget it's a low capacity 2 cylinder engine, it even has a lot more torque and grunt than both the 1.2 petrol and 1.3 diesel.😊

    • @allen_key
      @allen_key 5 месяцев назад +1

      Had the same thoughts on the engine choice. On a test run though it took all of 2 mins to bond with it. The revs pick up well and it makes an amusing sound.
      The black roof looks smart with the white. Painted black mirror caps (not the raw ones) could match in quite nicely as well.

  • @tomoreilly9932
    @tomoreilly9932 5 месяцев назад +2

    Should run on bamboo really, being a panda.

  • @ciaranburke3243
    @ciaranburke3243 5 месяцев назад +3

    Cool little car, 3 cylinder sounds nice 👍

  • @BotsisAnargyros
    @BotsisAnargyros 4 месяца назад +1

    Fan fact I own the 2021 model year and I have an LPG kit added as well. It now has a combined range of 900Km.. And fbr LPG as a fuel at least in Athens Greece is affordable 0.785€ per L compared to 2€ for petrol. 30.000 km rough driving and no problems at all so far

  • @InterceptorSC
    @InterceptorSC 5 месяцев назад +3

    For our 25th wedding anniversary brought wife a fiat Punto 1.2 kept that for years then brought a panda 1.2 that's at nearly 80 k now and has the odd niggle .This December is our 50th anniversary so may go for the hybrid.Wife 73 in Feb 2025 so depend if she wants to carry on driving or not.At 73 will be second time have to reapply for licence it's every 3 years once get to 70

    • @brianiswrong
      @brianiswrong 5 месяцев назад +4

      Never mind the car,congratulations on your upcoming 50th wedding anniversary 🎉

  • @mrbwa1
    @mrbwa1 5 месяцев назад +3

    Sounds better than the 1.0L TDe in the Clio we drive. The Italians can seeming make any engine sound nice

    • @neodonkey
      @neodonkey 5 месяцев назад +1

      Inline 3 cylinder or 6 cylinder engines all sound awesome! One of the nicest sounding engine configurations in my opinion.

  • @raymondmumford6255
    @raymondmumford6255 5 месяцев назад +2

    Wish they were bringing them to Australia 😊 Loving the mullet ❤

  • @kanton2485
    @kanton2485 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for presenting a car reasonaby priced and in the reach of ordinary people!

  • @EricksonJunior
    @EricksonJunior 5 месяцев назад +5

    I love this Panda, but i was so disappointed with this new engine. After years driving all sorts of Fire engined Fiats, i found this new unit a bit boring. It's so funny seeing so many small Fiats on the streets ❤

    • @sebastian0107
      @sebastian0107 5 месяцев назад +3

      These Fire engines were among the best, ever, built small petrol-engines: simple, reliable and even with only 8 valves torque and powerful. Luckily there are still millions left to choose from.

    • @EricksonJunior
      @EricksonJunior 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@sebastian0107 I daily drive a Lancia Y with the 1.1 engine and it's so much fun 😃

    • @sebastian0107
      @sebastian0107 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@EricksonJunior They are so cute! I had several kinds of Fire Fiats. Told my mother to buy a Panda just in time before they went for the 2 cil. version.

    • @Mark_T
      @Mark_T 5 месяцев назад +2

      I can relate. I have this model of Panda and the 3cyl engine is a little subdued compared to the FIRE.

    • @sebastian0107
      @sebastian0107 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Mark_T Nonetheless, it does it's job and it only sips fuel. It's not bad; way better than the previous 2 cil.

  • @worldhello1234
    @worldhello1234 5 месяцев назад +2

    @6:04 They are probably going to be "junkjard queens" rather than future classics.
    @8:23 If it is better on fuel, it is certainly better on so called "emissions" which is pretty much irrelevant.

  • @Zeem4
    @Zeem4 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wind up windows in the back? No buttons on the steering wheel? I'll take one!

  • @tonys1636
    @tonys1636 5 месяцев назад +4

    Nice to see a modern car with proper dials and switches not a touch screen. Wonder how long before Governments or Ncap ban them as hazardous and a danger for drivers and pedestrians.

    • @HubNut
      @HubNut  5 месяцев назад +1

      Anti-collission and lane departure stuff is now demanded so they are changing it.

    • @johnp8150
      @johnp8150 5 месяцев назад +1

      Genuine question: with all the extra safety why do I see so many (more?) cars in hedges and collected by roundabout chevrons these days?

    • @sebastian0107
      @sebastian0107 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@johnp8150 Distraction?

    • @marksouthwell4490
      @marksouthwell4490 5 месяцев назад +2

      I think they're bringing back tactile buttons on new cars as touch screens were deemed more dangerous

    • @neodonkey
      @neodonkey 5 месяцев назад +1

      Anyone ever try to fiddle with a stereo or phone while driving? That's what those awful touch screens seem like to me. You should have positive analog controls and dials that are distraction free not a "smartphone in your car while you're driving" experience.

  • @PaddyWV
    @PaddyWV 5 месяцев назад +2

    Pity you can't have an adjustable rear seat for a bit more room when you don't need luggage space, but you need people space! 🙂

  • @fabienst9030
    @fabienst9030 5 месяцев назад +3

    great review, had this car as a rental car in Cilento, a hilly and desolate area in south of italy. Loved every second driving it. On hilly tracks, it requires a lot of gear changing. On longer slopes, the battery empties quite fast and than on the very steep hills, first gear becomes quickly usefull... 6th is only for maintaining a 120k/h on flat or gently descending motorways...

    • @paulchaplain721
      @paulchaplain721 5 месяцев назад

      I hired one in Mallorca earlier this year, with only me in it was still very under powered.

  • @LiorIPSC
    @LiorIPSC День назад

    Rented one of these in Milano and drove it through southern Switzerland. Lacking in bhp, it doesn't like alpine driving that much but it's very easy to park and handles well on the straight and level. Not a bad motor for its niche.

  • @ashleyjarvis954
    @ashleyjarvis954 5 месяцев назад +4

    Always had a soft spot for these! ❤

  • @pedroemn
    @pedroemn 3 месяца назад

    It's impressive how similar yet how different is the Panda compared to its third-world cousin, the 2nd-gen Uno (2010-2021). I have a 2020 in the Attractive trim (entry version, with the older Fire Evo 1.0 8V engine). It's a sturdy little beast and one of the cheapest cars to mantain in Brazil. It's a shame it lacks some of the Panda's refinement (I know that must feel like a strong word for the European mind, but it's true).

  • @martinhibbert1428
    @martinhibbert1428 5 месяцев назад +4

    That’s a brave man who is prepared drive around in Turin. I used to visit often for work, crazy and a little scary. Having said that it was pre sat nav era so trying to navigate and deal with the traffic was a challenge. I still remember my first visit. Took a taxi from the airport into town, it drove straight through at least 6 or 7 red lights ! Apparently it was common practice back then, the authorities have since clamped down on the rather dangerous practice.

    • @HubNut
      @HubNut  5 месяцев назад +4

      We saw a few people treating red lights as optional. Caught the morning rush hour at one point. Unpleasant!

    • @martinhibbert1428
      @martinhibbert1428 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@HubNut it’s a great city and a really interesting place to visit. I used to work (and still do in a different way) for a company called Comau. Owned by Fiat. They supplied all the tooling for building cars fixtures, robots etc. Comau have quite an interesting history if you’re into car history. Pretty sure they will have supplied the production lines for the Panda. I’m about to start work for them on a new JLR model to be built in Halewood.

    • @matthewwebber2225
      @matthewwebber2225 5 месяцев назад +1

      Absolutely Martin. The land-mines and bouncing bombs are notorious.

  • @coopers4491
    @coopers4491 5 месяцев назад +2

    Sounds like my citroen c1 👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @REPOMAN24722
    @REPOMAN24722 5 месяцев назад +1

    They are still selling this model???? Ok I take it back that's a good thing, less to break, dont care about safety.

  • @nakoma5
    @nakoma5 5 месяцев назад +1

    These are the kind of cars Fiat should be making, not $35K+ Gucci 500s with limited range.

  • @DeerKoden
    @DeerKoden 5 месяцев назад +2

    i feel like i would literally say the same your friend said in a previous video, it has a really small battery and hence it was mostly made to fit within gov incentives for "low emission" vehicles.

  • @Dhira108
    @Dhira108 5 месяцев назад +2

    Always impressed with how well packaged the Panda is, loved driving the original

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis 5 месяцев назад +3

    Lovely Panda ❤

  • @robertngreen6
    @robertngreen6 5 месяцев назад +2

    SO many Panda 169s still there in the background as well as the later Pandas!! Great review, with expert camera work too!