Pecron E600LFP: 614Wh LiFePO4 Battery, 1200W Inverter, 400W of solar input! What's not to like?!?
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2022
- !!! CORRECTION!!! At one point in the video, I mention that the E600LFP supports 500W of solar. In fact that number is 400W through the aviation connector, OR 100W through the DC5521 port, but not both at the same time!
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!!! CORRECTION!!! At one point in the video, I mention that the E600LFP supports 500W of solar. In fact that number is 400W through the aviation connector, OR 100W through the DC5521 port, but not both at the same time!
Check out the Dash mini cookers. They`re small (4 inch cooking surface...350 watts) but man do they cook fast! Their griddle makes a much larger pan biscuit than I thought it would and the waffle maker can keep supplying waffles as fast as you can eat them. I also tested a Nostalgia 520 watt sandwich maker tonight. Makes perfectly browned and crispy corn fritters and nice little half sandwich shaped "waffles" or "pancakes." Dash also has a 200 watt rice cooker. I have two 100 watt 12v rice cookers that need at least a 10 amp cigarette lighter port to work but I can use them with even my tiny Golabs r300.
Great review. I plan to charge the E600LFP from solar and simultaneously charge my Tesla on the AC port while I'm away. This setup means there is a low solar input power and high load output power. So I'd like to see a behavior where the Pecron stops AC output when battery level reaches a low threshold (like 10%) and then turn AC output on again when battery level reaches a high threshold (like 90%). This way the car can charge from the battery and solar at a high rate, and then stop charging while the battery recharges from solar.
Any options for that in the menu system?
Else I will have to get the E600LFP instead, design my own circuitry to measure the battery voltage from the battery share port (which the E600LFP doesn't have) and control a "smart plug" plugged into the AC outlet on which I plug the Tesla charger.
Thank you.
@@julienvm curious - was the E600LFP able to charge a Tesla on the AC port? thx
@@backwardsbirds I bought the Ecoflow Delta 2 max (EU version with 240V) instead. Was able to charge the car no problem. No need for grounding plug with this version.
The model now (6.15.'24) for sale on Pecron's site is rated at a max of 300W input on the bottom DC(/PV) input, which really makes no sense, because even the lowest rated input voltage of 32V would result in 480W if inputting at the rated 15 Amps.
I appreciate the review and the discount code. Just ordered the E600LFP+200w solar kit. You saved me $30 on top the sale price. Every bit helps. Thanks
Thanks for another great review. We ordered the unit in mid May 2023 for $286 delivered direct from Pecron. So far, it has been rock solid.
Pecron is amazing on all their power stations. And their prices cant be beat. I get my 1500 tomorrow
Thanks for the informative review.I have the Pecron e3000 and e1000PRO.Both have been very reliable thus far and would recommend to anyone looking for a solar generator.This Pecron product looks/performs great too.
Glad that your experience was different from mine. My e1000pro, having lost one function after another is now an unchargeable doorstop. The batteries still work, so i guess it is a source for project batteries.
Excellent video! Thank you! You said you can run your 12 year old full size refrigerator for 5 hours! That is very good information!
Just purchased one direct and using your code. Total cost $284. Thank you for a great review. It was a toss up between this and EcoFlow. Look for to using the pecron 600 in my outdoor activities.
Hope you enjoy it!
Thank you. As always, a very informative video.
Excellent…answered lots of questions
Finally a review on this. I bought one of these on Cyber Monday. I have an 11Kw diy 36v system made from scooter batteries. I plugged the 36v -42v into the solar input snd it worked perfectly. Just over 500w. * silently too
How much did it cost during the sale?
@@tashaviaf $399 delivered to Las Vegas, NV
now $280 delivered
@@greengooseman where??
I like your videos, they offer solid information.
Thanks! I do try! :)
Another Excellent review.
I heard that Pecron is coming out with a 3000+W LFP power station
I hope it's actually a 3.6K inverter , 2.5Kwh that can be combined with another for true 30a 240v output and capable of using the lfp battery expansion units being released for the E2000LFP
Not sure, but I'll definitely be on the look-out for that. I really like what Pecron is doing these days.
Curious capacities. You can discharge it from full to empty in less than 30 minutes and charge it from empty to full in a little more than an hour. Normally you'd expect a much larger battery capacity with that size of an inverter and SCC. Not a bad thing, I suppose, but certainly different from the normal offerings.
yeah, it seems to be a trend with brands who want to stay relevant - more DC input, more AC output. Not a bad thing when you need it!
Great little product..
I like it...
Overall very pleased with my unit.
Some observations re solar charging:
After thorough testing, I can't figure out why solar input to the Pecron E600LFP is relatively low with panels in series (all other configurations, i.e. single panel or in parallel behave as expected).
This is our test results (done with 340 W qcells rigid panels - Voc of 40.91 V and VMPP of 34.10 V):
300 W solar input from a single qcells 340 W panel
270 W solar input from two(!!) qcells 340 W panels connected in series
So even lower input from two panels connected in series, than from a single panel!!??
390 W solar input from two qcells 340 W panels connected in parallel
393 W solar input from three qcells 340 W panels connected in parallel
Anyone got an idea, why the Pecron E600LFP has such a relatively low solar input from panels connected in series?
I think you mean put the panels in series for the GX16F aviation plug not parallel so it can boost the voltage as the parameters for that GX16F port are, are 32v - 96v. If you put them in parallel it would boost the amps but not the volts and be under the 32v minimum voltage for that port. If you had 2 panels in series(around 21.6 VOC) you're getting around the 42v mark so easily within that 32-96v range. Although you could always use a boost converter to up the voltage of one very large panel that has a VOC of less than 32v. I think they did this wacky way of charging so they would incentivize people who don't know how to put panels in series or use a boost converter to buy their expensive panels at 36v VOC not just standard cheap ones out there. Kind of cheesy if you ask me. But it's still a great unit even with the slightly underhanded charging setup. I guess they are trying to be Jackery with all their silly proprietary stuff to force people into buying their accessories at inflated prices. What's worse is if you buy their 200w panel at 36v VOC there are very few power station out there that can take that kind of voltage so that panel almost useless for any other power stations other than the pecron.
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As always, a fantastic presentation. I actually picked one up about three weeks ago, and I have to say it's a keeper. I have been very impressed with it. One thing I have used it for is a 12 V blanket, which draws anywhere between 56 and 60 watts. No problems at all. I've run lights, fans, and other things. I also picked up a 700 W hot plate to use in a pinch, no issues. I can say they have come along way in a short period of time and I highly recommend their products. Thanks for doing a great job.🫡👍
Check out the Dash mini cookers. They`re small (4 inch cooking surface...350 watts) but man do they cook fast! Their griddle makes a much larger pan biscuit than I thought it would and the waffle maker can keep supplying waffles as fast as you can eat them. I also tested a Nostalgia 520 watt sandwich maker tonight. Makes perfectly browned and crispy corn fritters and nice little half sandwich shaped "waffles" or "pancakes." Dash also has a 200 watt rice cooker. I have two 100 watt 12v rice cookers that need at least a 10 amp cigarette lighter port to work but I can use them with even my tiny Golabs r300.
Outstanding!! Thanks for the info!
a little update after a year tested my pecron 600lfp using the same methods you used dc 534 watt hr ac 589 watt hr about 50 charges
I wanted this to be the one. Seemed perfect for what I needed. I got and it worked for one day and now it’s dead as a brick will not power on or take a charge. Let’s see how good Pecrons support is. Not holding my breath!!😢
I had the same thing happen to me but Pecron made it right, sent me a new unit and I've loved it since. Hope you have the same experience. Plus, now that it's on sale you might be able to get a partial refund :)
Ditto. Bad brick as shipped, low voltage charge failed first, then high voltage charge control. It lights up when you plug in, but no longer takes a charge. Pecron did exchange email with me, but I didn't pursue this hard enough to say that Pecron would or would not make good.
@6:30 Separate Charging 'Brick' : 1) like you said if something 'goes wrong' with the charging brick it is easy to replace without bothering the actual power station. 2) The H E A T it generates while in use has no effect on the power station or its Battery ! BUT the big Negative is that you will not build that extra upper-body strength you would from carting around that larger/heavier power station . . . . . . .
Came back to re-recommend a separate charging brick to reduce internal heat in the power station as well as less weight of the power station . . . . . I used your discount code ordering the E600 LFP saving $19.95 , Thank You !
I noticed your piano/keyboard on the left in the video . . . . . = you probably enjoy music.
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(3 songs in addition to this introduction to Norway = the win!)
And when it comes with a bad charge brick, Pecron does respond to communication.
Is there any huge fan noise during the operation?
I will be charging this unit from a 330 watt panel only. Is it ok to leave the panel plugged in all the time or is it best to run the unit down to around 30% regularly? Thank you
Could I connect 2 180 watt Ridgid panels in series or parallel?
Hi: I am a complete newbie to getting one of these will ask you questions like a baby…. and not sure if I am asking question in a right way…wondering:
1) is there a socket for me to add a Jumper Cable to jump a car? Include jumper cable adapter
2) Most of my area outages would last no more than 3 days, is this good enough to charge a phone or ipad, fan (hot days), mini fridge (dorm fridge size) for 12-24 hours?
3) Or if I connect it to a 100W solar panel would it be able to run above continuously? Or would I need higher power station or higher solar panels?
Thanks a bunch for any assistance.
I don't understand the parallel PV panels connection. The MPPT input limit is 95V, so anything below that, like a pair of 400W residential panels with low-40s Voc should work fine.
I almost bought the E600LFP during their sale, but that odd note about parallel only had me concerned. I did get their E2000LFP and so far it's great!
Yeah, it's a bit of an odd situation. As I understand it, this first revision of the E600LFP has a charge controller that could be damaged by the higher voltages of a series configuration (despite the voltage input labeling...which I suspect is not accurate). So Pecron added that message on their website that parallel configurations only should be used (mostly out of caution), and they asked me to also make that clear in the review video. That said, I did actually connect 2 200W panels in series in pretty clear sun, getting about 350W in and the unit handled it just fine. But I suspect connecting 4 18V 100W panels in series might be problematic, while connecting them in parallel would be fine. Pecron did say that the chance of causing damage was "low", but they're improving the next production run with a charge controller that has more robust over-voltage protection.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Ah gotcha! Thanks for all that info! Maybe I'll pick up a 2nd batch version.
Do you plan to review their EB3000 expansion battery also?
Wish I knew this info before charging my e600lfp. I charged with two sets of 20.3 v 100 watt panels in series for a couple hrs, Now it won’t charge
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Any idea when/if a new generation is coming out?
Really big units. Wonderful ✨✨Have a great day my friend. TY for sharing. New Subscriber.
Would this be a good to power a couple of cpaps for a couple of nights?
Nice review. Would you consider doing a review on options for powering a gas furnace when grid power is down. I currently use a “suicide cord” which people do not like, but if I turn the breaker off, hook everything up, then power on the AC inverter, it’s ok, but still not sure if it’s completely safe. Thanks.
I've actually done a video recently on the Mango Power E, where I show the manual transfer switch I had installed that does exactly that... in a code compliant solution.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors OK thanks. I’ll check it out.
Is it possible to run 2 pecron 200watt solar chargers some how? I know there is only a plug in for one but wanted to buy an extra one and have 2 solar chargers going.
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Good morning! Great video, I've watched it a few times in my search for a mid range unit. This is probably the most comprehensive vid I've seen on this unit. The price finally dropped down to $299, so I grabbed it and a 16' ext. cable for the MC4. Love the unit and performs exactly as stated in your video. Maybe you can answer a quick question on charging, will a panel with the following spec's work on this unit? I'm guessing it should given the VOC is in range, but the AMPS is a concern?
24V Panel~
Max Power Output(W): 240W
Voltage MPP Vmp(V): 37.20V
Current MPP Imp(A): 5.38A
Voltage Open Circuit Voc(V): 43.60V
Short Circuit Current Isc(A): 5.74A
Thanks for any input!
Thanks man! Yeah that panel should be great on the aviation port. Looks like a great match up. I wouldn't be concerned about the amps at all.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Perfect, and thanks for the quick response! Have a good one and keep those videos coming~
Can I ask what panel this is? I'm not sure what to get, but can't afford Pecron's 330w panel.
@@zippy2641 The panel I tested the 100W input with in this video is this one: amzn.to/3O8m9Mb It's a virtual clone of the Jackery 100W panel, but for under US$200 instead of the $300 price on the Jackery version. If you only want a 100W panel, this is an excellent, quality option.
I’m hoping you’ll do a eb3000 review
I'm definitely looking into that possibility!!
Could it be used as UPS?
I ran into an issue maybe you have some insight on. I have 2 100w 12-18v solar panels. I had them run in parallel and they would not charge my pecron 600. When I unplugged everything and ran it in series it started charging. I'm assuming that unless you have 32v solar panels run parallel it won't work since in that charge port is rated for 32-95v. To get the voltage from lower voltage panel they would have to be run in series. Is this accurate? Thanks for the great video!
@scottcrapo4778 yep that's exactly correct. You need that 32V at a minimum to enable charging so you'll have to keep them in series connection
Very good review and a good deal right now. I have a Bluetti now with the sp120 solar panel from Bluetti,, I am curious is anyone knows if I can connect a Bluetti solar panel into a pecron unit? I know the direct connection into the unit looks different. Thanks
The E600LFP has 2 different solar inputs. The 5-pin aviation connector (bottom input) requires at least 24v input to charge. The SP120 is a typical "18V panel" so you'd have to plug it into the top input port on the E600LFP - which is a DC5521. That port is capped a 100W so that's the max you'd get out of the SP120 - but it's definitely compatible. You just need to make sure you have a cable that goes from whatever is on the SP120 to a DC5521. I tried to find out what connector(s) the SP120 comes with, but Bluetti doesn't seem to say. In any way, it should be easy to find an adaptor cable from whatever the SP120 has to the DC5521. I hope that helps!
Hi, I did find an adapter, thanks
I have read their website but can't find where it talks about how water resistant it is. do you know?
Generally speaking, you wouldn't want to leave any power stations out in the rain. There are a couple that are rated to handle light rain and splashes, but unless explicitly stated in the specs, you should assume that a power station should not be exposed to rain/water.
I’m looking for a 100 watt panel for the dc5521 solar input. The Voc is 12-18v but can’t find a panel within this range. You used a Go power panel, was this within this spec? Thanks!
Hi Joe, thanks for your question. Really any 100W panel labeled as 12V or 18V should work on that 100W DC5521 port (despite VOC on these panels typically being about 20V), including that TOGO Power 100W panel (which is a virtual clone of the much more expensive Jackery SolarSaga 100W panel). amzn.to/3nRKBqE
@@ReeWrayOutdoors I'm glad I found this post...I've spent 3 days looking for a 100w panel for this. I'm quite sure they must realize this panel doesn't exist (18v max) in our solar system, why would they limit the port like that?? That's frustrating. So, if I use a panel stating Voc 24v it won't damage the unit? (I did email them on this)
Thanks for this informative review. One pressing question: are you SURE you can run panels in parallel?? Jasonoid (on RUclips) also reviewed this and specifically said you can only run panels in SERIES. Who's got it right?
So, you can actually do both now....so we're both right. haha The issue (and the reason I specifically referenced parallel) was that in their first production run, there was a small chance that putting 2 18V panels in series could create a problem with the charge controller and so Pecron, out of caution, was advising to only use parallel connections. However, this issue should be corrected by now and you can use series or parallel, provided that you're keeping within 95V max, and understanding it will cap at 15A.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors @ReeWray Outdoors Interesting and glad I asked! And glad for the rapid response. If it's not too much trouble, may I ask: this 400w input is foreign to me. what converters/cable would I need to run it through my van 20 feet and connect it to the two 100w parallel'd panels atop? Don't worry about it if you don't have the time...Thanks again!
@PhenomenalWorld likely just need an MC4 extension cable to connect between your panels and the mc4 to aviation adapter the E600 comes with.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Perfect. Thank you!
New regular price is now $299 and your 5% code still works
I just saw that. I am considering this and the Bluetti eb3a and a separate LifePo4 external battery.
@@brianclevenger5521 i have the Bluetti eb3A as well. Holds less, smaller inverter , super light, and built in AC charger and an App.
I have 8 of these 36V batteries that come with a built in XT90 connector. When I need to take a ext battery with me, I grab the pecron as the solar input voltage is perfect. I use it to charge my S1500 pecron as well.
Which it didn't have the huge AC charging brick that's actually about the size of a brick.
No grounded 120 ac ports for appliances? Thanks.
Shouldn't be needed, as appliances are well insulated and the housing of the power station is plastic.
I have Jackery solar panels..does anyone know if they will easily work with the adapter cables that come with Pecron 600?
So, I think you'd need either a DC7909 to Anderson adapter, OR a DC7909 to MC4 adapter.
@@ReeWrayOutdoorsthank you! So are either or both of those the one(s) included that you showed here or....Amazon?
Since this review was done.....they have changed the accessory holder to just a cloth bag.
Have all your reviews for power stations, great job!👍 Can you please help. I'm going to buy a station with no less 2000W and want only LFP batteries. I'm going to use it very often because of this crazy situation in Ukraine we have now. Can you please advise me any? Because lot of 2000W stations have no LFP! And definitely need UPS! Thanks👍
Hi Valeriy. That IS a crazy and very unfortunate situation there in Ukraine. You might consider the AceVolt Campower 2000 (also marketed under other brands such as Oukitel P2001, and FFPower P2001). It checks all those boxes and usually sells for a very competitive price for the capacity. It does not have app support or expansion capability though, so just be aware of that.
Щойно купив таку на "Rozetka" Pecron E600LFP. Купляв для газового котла(в основному), хоча є і інверторний генератор Daewoo на 2kW, але бензин(не накупишся). Дивився таку Pecron на 2000, але ціни у нас дещо зашкалюють.
I ran a wh efficiency test on the AC outlet which of course runs unit to 0%. I got about an 89% efficiency. When I charged unit using the supplied brick the light on brick stayed green and no wattage input. After about 40 minutes the charge was at 18% and brick light turned red and input wattage was showing 272 watts input. Is that normal or is there something wrong with unit or brick?
I don't recall the specific output of the E600's charger, but it is typical for the output to start fairly low when SOC is 0% and then ramp up over the course of 10 or 15 mins. Did it complete the charge cycle? If so, how long did it take? I'd say if it completed with a full-charge and it took
@@ReeWrayOutdoors yes it fully charged and took about 3hrs full charge. Thanks 😊
@@ReeWrayOutdoors what’s the best method to charge the Pecron E600 when using 2/100watt rigid panels. In series or parallel and why? Thanks again.
Just got the Pecron E600LFP. The AC charging brick fan is loud and noisy even when the Pecron is fully charged. Anyone else experiencing this or do I have a bad AC power brick?
I'm pretty sure that's how all the Pecron external power supplies are. The fan keeps on running even when the unit is done charging.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Bummer. Thanks for the reply.
Your computer screen never changed. Was that really a month?
Haha yeah it was...er...maybe 3.5 weeks... I've been showing my channel page on-screen lately ( for 'branding' haha) so it looks like it's the same. BUT if you're watching hi-res and look VERY closely, you can tell the video thumbnails have changed alot. But yeah...when I was reviewing I had the same thought...the 'set' is a little TOO identical. haha
Do you think the external charging brick from the E600LFP will work as a second power supply for the E2000LFP and vice versa?
mmmm not so sure about that. I'll have to double-check my E600LFP charger specs, but I'm pretty sure it's different that what comes with the E2000LFP.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thanks.
@@blillo841984 Yes so the connectors are the same 5-pin Aviation style (GX16-MF), and you CAN connect the E600LFP charger to the E2000LFP and it will charge at around 275W - so makes a decent supplemental charger. But the E2000LFP charger output 42V @ 15A, which will almost certainly trigger over-current protection on the E600LFP's charging port...so I would NOT advise trying to charge the E600LFP with the E2000's charger as you may damage the unit.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors
I order both of them. Thanks for the reviews.
Hey Wray, the 2000lfp charger of 42v still falls within the 600's voltage range. Should be good just pulling the amps it needs yes? And i notice the bearcats emblem, did it kill you to see mick cronin come out west?
Does it have pass-through charging?
It does. Confirmed
i dont know why people want the charging brick inside the power station. it makes it heavier, adds heat and if fails.......
external power brick is a great idea that brings the price down.
what is the problem if youre powering it by solar panel.
I don't really mind the brick so much either, but I get why people like the convenience of not having to keep track of it...1 more thing to pack and track....or in my case, I have SO many different ones, I have to label them to keep track of which power station they work with...so it's nice when it's just a power cable.
I wish they did not use a power brick and only a chord.
This power station is currently only $330 with coupon code! (as of Mar 21, 2023)
Nice! Thanks for the heads-up Brian!
I ordered one last week in Canada with a coupon code that brought it down to around $340 USD (their Canadian prices seem to float based on the exchange rate). They do free shipping even in Canada, extremely unusual in Canada for such a heavy shipment. They haven't shipped it yet, five days later, but I'm looking forward to running it through its paces.
@@guspaz looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
$399 right now on amazon.
Walmart selling this for $399. $428 after taxes as of jan 17,2023
I was close to pull the trigger but Fossibot took my money.
I'm a bit confused. Pecron's manual states 100w max input at 18v using the 5521 connector. The GX16MF input is rated at 400w max at 32-95V. So, as I read it if I had a 200w/18V panel the best I could expect is 100W in. Any thoughts? Thanks
Your 18V 200W panel probably puts out something like 12A in full sun -which could result in the CC shutting down charging on that port to protect the circuitry. I'm not sure what this unit's over-current protection on the CC is, off the top of my head. I'd have to test it to be sure. I typically don't 'over-panel' by more than 20% (so 120W in this case), just to be safe.