Pecron E600 LFP - Raising the Bar for BUDGET Power! 400w Solar - 1200w Inverter - 614wh Battery
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- In this video I test and review the Pecron E600LFP portable power station. This medium sized power station is packed with features like LiFePO4 batteries, 400 watts of solar charging, a 1200w pure sine wave inverter, and a wireless charging pad. What did you think of the performance throughout the video? Is the price competitive? Is this the BEST budget option right now?
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Video Timestamps:
Pecron E600LFP Overview: (0:00)
DC / USB Output Testing: (1:43)
AC Inverter Load Testing: (4:55)
Charging the E600: (8:30)
Pecron Warranty and Support: (11:21)
Grading the Power Station: (12:14)
E600 - Pros VS Cons: (12:53)
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Very surprised: this unit ran a 7.2 full load amp fridge and saved the day on a weekend retreat. It worked only if I had just ac turned on before plugging in the fridge. If I had the dc and ac turned on, then I got a “over wattage alert”. There are not many power stations that can run a full size fridge but are also small enough to just toss into the back of a car for “just in case” when there is barely any space left after two kids and the dog. We also used it to run the WiFi and tv so we could tune in to church.
Yesterday at thankgiving...my son showed up and wanted to use our blender to make a bunch of drinks. I didnt want them in the kitchen so I pulled out my e600lfp and sent them into the living room. After much blending...I put away my pecron.....and noticed that it was at 99%. Best bang for the buck for real uses.
Doesn’t your living room have an outlet?
@@RomelMaldonado not an extra one. Old farm house.
I actually like/prefer the idea of external brick and one of many reasons I chose Pecron!! This will more than likely be a failure point in the future. If internal you are dead in the water. If external, I can simply purchase another brick and be up and running!! Also, I can use this AC brick on my E2000LFP along with its included 600watt AC charger for faster charging. Love your reviews, don't need noise test!!
When my Pecron E600 unit (refurbished unit from eBay) went missing at a FedEX distribution center, they emailed me they were tracking the unit and noticed it had not been delivered on time. They immediately offered a Brand New Unit as replacement and delivered the new unit 4 days later. Its rare for any company that will inform you why they missed the delivery date but to offer a new replacement unit is impressive. Can anyone think of any company that tracks and contacts your before you receive your purchased goods?
Fedex sucks! I had to go pick up my e2000 cause they wouldn't deliver it. Why idk. I'm guessing they are just lazy
I have been viewing numerous online reviews. Very impressed by an AC stress test. The fully charged unit ran at 1380+ watts for 20+ minutes before it shutdown due to batteries over heating. Once they cooled down the unit started charging by the AC power supply with no intervention required. It was also noted the sine wave remained constant. I also have to say the three items mentioned for point deductions are none issues for me. Jason, I ordered this unit prior to seeing this review. Your review only confirmed my choice. Certainly would like to see this included in a EcoFlow River 2 Pro comparison.
Jason your reviews are some of the best on RUclips, clear concise, cover all the features and your spread sheet is a wonderful comparison tool! Thank you for putting all the hard work into these videos! Very much appreciated.
Thank you, Stephen. Let me know if there are any other tests you'd like to see.
@@JasonoidIn the sub1000wh category I think a case can still be made for ncm chemistry imho, depending on how often you'll need to use it. My delta mini was not too much more$ on sale and has around 200more wh and bigger inverter.
Thanks for another excellent review. I have only had the E600 for a couple of weeks, but am fairly impressed. This is an excellent camping companion.
I love the way you test for noise using the meter and the amp - this is so useful. I have some valve amp equipment and I find that the larger Bluetti units are fine, but most smaller units are not useable - Thank you!
Amazing solar input for a smaller unit, great review. Thank you.
I received this this e600lfp this past weekend. I find your efficiency test very accurate. It's crazy how much more efficient these are compared to the ecoflows I own. I'm especially speaking when there's no load on it and you leave it on.
A common habit I have is charging my phone at bed time while playing youtube on it. I bring that habit with me when camping . My ecoflows drain like heck when it's on but with no load.
I'm am very impressed with my first pecron and might buy another in this model. My real target is the e2000lfp in all black which is out of stock.
Thanks Jasonoid for the fine wine videos. Although you are influencing me to spend much money 😅
I appreciate the rf noise tests. I actually looking into this as portable/backup power for my ham radio, that also can have other applications for a power outage or when camping. One really nice feature about this system is that it has over 150 watts in dc, so I could run my radio at significantly higher power without needing to use ac and a power supply.
I love this power station ended up with 2 of them! Great inverter and if you combine the 2 you have a very affordable 1200 watt 1200 ah system that can be spit with double the DC and USB resources! Great review as always you are the number one source for complete non nonsense product reviews!
These offer a great value for the price!
Great review as always. This looks like a good value with very good efficiency. An internal charger would be nice but you can’t beat the price.
Luckily for camping most people wouldn't be using AC power to charge it. Maybe they could leave that at home? Having a few hundred watts of solar panels would keep this charged up. I think it fills a void in the medium sized market.
My power station was dead on arrival. It was a pain. They want a video of it not working. Took several emails. After bitching the let me send it back. They did send out a new one but took over a month to get my replacement. We will see how it holds up
I love how you bested Professor Hobo with the new noise distortion meter. That’s really cool! Please use it in the future for your testing.
Helpful video thanks. I like the grading project farm style sheet.
I bought the e600LFP after watching this and other reviews. I bought it to run my 22 cubic foot refrigerator for 6-8 hours. In a test my refrigerator ran for 7:49, which included a significant amount of opening the door during the last hour. I was able to get greater than 85% capacity when powering a space heater (based on the power readout and discharge time). I tried it with my ham radio and did not notice increased noise on either the 80m or 40m band when powering my radio from the DC output, or the AC output connected to a power supply. However, I live in a high noise environment and so someone with a better radio and quieter location might get different results. When powering from the DC output, I was able to run at 30 watts output in CW mode with the key down, with a power draw of 131 watts from the e600LFP. When powering from the DC output, I could operate in SSB (voice) with my radio set to full power, but my power output was lower than when running off of mains power. I was able to check into a 40m net and talk with people around the country, but my signal report was not great (5-5). As expected, this power station would not be my go-to for backup power for a ham radio, but it would work.
Great job JASONOID
Wow, this looks like a nice little unit at a great price. Kudos to Pecron.
They hit a lot of the features people are looking for
Jason, thanks for your insights on various aspects of alternative energy. I had decided to purchase this unit prior to seeing this review. You confirmed my pick for a small battery supply. My criteria is a system for emergency power without investing a ton of money. I have since ordered a SetPower PT55 as well as an EcoFlow River 2. My thinking is charging the SetPower via 12v I can alternate battery supplies while charging the other battery unit. On my home I have 6.03kWh SunPower solar on my home since 2018. I am currently not interested in a whole home system. Living in the PNW I know at times solar is not the most reliable of power. The two battery supplies I have purchased have very quick AC charging and that is a consideration. Eventually I may purchase a 100w Xtar panel but for now have purchased a Champion 2500/1820w dual source portable (40lbs) generator/inverter. It can run 30+ hours on a 20lb propane tank. That is a lot of battery system charges. Total investment $1250.
I like the test where you measure sound emitted.
Great review! The inverter noise affects everything!!! The fluctuation in the voltage can prematurely destroy battery in your other electronic devices like your notebook and the phone. Even the image quality on your TV is better when the power is cleaner.
With that in mind... do you not recommend any of these power stations for charging electronics like laptops?
Excellent review.full of great info
I just discovered your channel when searching for some reviews on Pecron after someone in a car/truck/van dwelling/living FB group I'm in posted a screenshot of their products looking for personal reviews and I was astounded at their prices... and then your spreadsheet, OMFG!! This is exactly what I've needed and was about to embark on the absolutely overwhelming task of making one myself to better compare as many options as possible - it's important to know you're getting a good deal when your budget is that of "homeless/no income/limited". Words cannot express my gratitude for your time & labor in putting that together, even if the prices become outdated with the ever-changing market (in fact it's nice to know what prior prices were to see if they've gone up or down and I can know to wait for a sale or search elsewhere!). The one thing I was looking for on it wasn't actually the capacity but the inverter sizes lol, but I found that info on the second page so that works fine enough :P Just wanted to send a massive thank you and let ya know that I'll use your discount referral code if/when I buy as well as sharing your spreadsheet and channel with the multiple travel/nomad FB groups I'm in, so I hope some future purchases help ya out! :) The irony is that I already HAVE a 100ah LiFePo4 with all the bells & whistles including bluetooth/app, a 3000watt inverter, MPPT controller, and 100w of solar panels, but am finding that hooking it all up in a way I can still use it stealthily in my little 2nd Gen Prius may not be workable since I'm full-time and need all the room and ease I can get.... but with this unit it looks like the market may finally be catching up to what someone on a budget can DIY!
Another excellent review 👍
If you don't need UPS you can't ask for more really, by far the best spec for the capacity and even outdoes many smaller and larger stations in various ways. I love the solar input. My only gripe is with the warranty. From reading the comments here I've learned that you get 24mo if you register, but the 12mo standard warranty still says that they're not standing firmly behind their product - a biggie for me...
Thank you for good tests! Please continue with the sound test. When I buy a power station i will use it with a digital piano and a speaker. Low noise is important to me.
Thanks, will do!
Great review Jason! I was hoping you'd review the E600LFP. I purchased the E2000LFP based on your review. I'd like to pick up the E600LFP for camping, but I already have other power stations that size (but less capability). I will say I've found use cases for having a larger inverter than the capacity for things such as small microwave or other appliances that just need short usage and don't actually drain the capacity much.
Regarding customer service, I've contacted them several times asking questions. Once I tripped my E2000LFP and was concerned it was damaged. They've gotten back to me within 1 day for every time I've contacted them. This included weekends, which was surprising.
For the external charging brick, I actually don't mind because the solar is so high. For my SoGens/power stations, I try to recharge them solely off solar. So it's nice to save a bit of size/weight not having the power supply built-in. Another thing I like about the external brick is I can repurpose it to use for other things, suck as charging my other power stations. Just need to make an adapter for the connector.
Do you plan to test the Expansion Batteries for the E2000LFP? They seem to be "dumb" in their connection to the main unit, which isn't necessarily bad. Other "smart" ones try to manage the expansion batteries and end up discharging unevenly to the point where there's still plenty of charge in the EB, but the main unit runs out and you're left with a useless set. The dumbness of the Pecron configuration allows the main unit to still work as long as any EB still has charge. And from other folks testing, it seems the main unit and EBs discharge pretty evenly. I'm looking to pick up an EB (ideally 2, but my wife will kill me) later on.
He just reviewed the E600LFP. That's the video above.
I'm absolutely in love with this machine for the price of $299. Did a AC testing today and got 559wh. Same as Jason for an efficiency of 91%. Incredible. One quirk about this machine is that it takes a long time to LCD to show anything. Like when you plug in the charging brick, it takes a while before reaching the max of 275w. When I plug in my solar, same thing. Not instantaneous like the EB3A.
Glad you get the great capacity results! I have noticed the slow charging increase, when connecting a large solar array it takes like 2 minutes to hit the peak wattage.
I would absolutely buy this before getting an EF River Pro, due to the lower cost AND the LFP batteries versus NMC. It scores less on your grading system, despite probably being a better overall value. The only real knock on this power station is the storage capacity is small, compared to the inverter output capacity, but that could be addressed with an external battery wired to a boost converter, as you demonstrated in another video.
Thanks for sharing your insight, Jason. The River Pro is a bit outdated now since most power stations are using LFP. I'm really curious to see how the new EcoFlow River 2 Pro performs versus the first generation River Pro ( I have only tested the small River 2). I'm glad to see them swapping to the more desired LFP batteries.
I love the 400 watts of solar input on this beast, the price is really competitive for what you get!
What up Doe Dr J'
Sounds like a good power station with the 1200 watt inverter. I'll probably add it to the collection... Thanks👍🏻
I have a DIY 14Kw 42V (36V nominal) battery bank for my home made solar generator. I plugged my E600LFP into the battery bank and was able to charge at more than 450W.
Wow! That's some fast charging. The max I was able to get was about 382, which I still thought was impressive.
With the new Prime sale just announced, this unit is going for $299 out the door. That's .48 cents per watt hour 🤯 Not sure if anyone can come close to that price. I have the E2000LFP & EB3000 expandable batteries that I bought back in Nov 22' and had to return one unit but Pecron was great (via email) in getting me a new unit. Also, I believe you can extend the warranty to TWO years if you register the product on their website. That was the case with the E2000 & EB3000. Anyways, thanks for the great review! You got a new subscriber.
Thanks BucksQ :) I think Pecron offers a really good value for their power stations.
I'm not bothered in the least that it doesn't have BT. I have also become interested in their expandable 2000. I'm becoming impressed with this company and find it very competitive. Like you, I am very interested in feedback on their support because I'm would like to buy both.
It’s good it doesn’t have BT. My BLUETTI has BT for just two extra features, that you can only use if you have the app downloaded. it makes no sense. These battery banks should be putting all the necessary buttons on the power station it’s self
Thanks the info😊
Like Bluetti (with the EB3A) and EcoFlow (With the Delta 2), Pecron now has established the standard in 600 watt-hr range of portable power stations, and they have no real competition. And it fits nicely right in between the EB3A (600 watt inverter) and the Delta 2 (1800 watt inverter). A sub $400 power station that takes 400 watts of solar and can make a pot of coffee! Almost perfect😀. A B230 battery with the MC-4 output cable (I have both) allows for much longer run times with medium size loads minus the higher parasitic losses of the AC200MAX. I ordered one of these for my sister, since her first question is "can it make a pot of coffee" when the power goes out. Thanks for a very informative review
Great insight, John. I also love your idea using the 48v output of the B230 to charge other devices, I haven't purchased one of those cables yet.
@@Jasonoid Speaking of 48 volt, PowerQueen has a 4.6KW rack battery really cheap. It would make a great expansion for either the E600 LFP or the Delta 2, or any power station that accepts a 51.2 volt input for the solar MPPT controller. Only 26 cents per watt for the battery!
I've seen that battery, they also have a 24v option!
There are plenty of very good 600 watt power stations out there. The Vtoman 600/600x with expandable battery, Allpowers R600, the Ugreen, VDL, Ctechi and lots of other 500-700watt stations
Great review as always. Thanks. I recommended that Vendure have you review their SuperBaseV as you use your bigger power stations for house backup and thus could show what that unit can and cannot do. Sadly they did not due this before the end of the Kickstarter campaign. They clearly do not understand the market they say they are trying to reach
Thanks Ron for the recommendation, much appreciated. They actually did reach out to me during the kickstarter campaign for me to review their product but it was a last minute request and I would have had only 1 week to test it out (impossible). It also wasn't going to be a 'production' model so I turned it down. I'm not going to waste my time and others time with a product that isn't finished and ready for customers. They want to send out the LFP model once it's ready so I can test it. Looking forward to see how it performs later this year....if I still get one to review.
Great review, looks good to me, I think I will buy one to put in my off grid van to assist taking a little pressure off of my LFP batteries also that would charge my power wheelchair 😎😎
Nice unit, good review👍
I have the E2000LFP and have used it to power my 20 cu. ft. Whirlpool garage refrigerator for several months with no problems. The E2000LFP charges very fast with my 4 180 watt BougeRV solar panels. Several other online reviewers had no problem running their refrigerators with the Pecron E600LFP. I have no issues with the power brick because I only charge my E2000LFP from my solar panels. 1200 watts of output power runs both my Whirpool refrigerators with no problem. One is 20 cu. ft. with no ice maker. The other is 25 cu. ft. with an ice maker. One runs on about 80 watts and the other on about 95 watts. There is a real big difference between different brands and older versus newer refrigerators when you are looking at their power consumption. From my research LG probably makes the most efficient models; but other manufacturers are very close if you are looking at their newest models. My Pecron E2000lFP amazes me that it will start charging nicely when just a little light hits my solar panels. I have an E600LFP on order because Pecron has performed very nicely and meets my needs.
Make sure to test the E600LFP thoroughly.
Accepts min 32vdc from solar. The fans get noisy if the PV is below that threshold.
Also check the pass thru charging for DC output. Mine will not accept the solar input if I turn on the DC out. Ridiculous
@@eddietee6305 are you sure when you use solar or ac brick the fan turn on? Because my unit wouldn't turn on the fan when charging.
@@orangecounty3533 yes I'm sure.
Yes, please continue to test for electronic noise/Electromagnetic Interference/Dirty Electricity, as it is not only a problem for sensitive electronics, but also for sensitive persons (= All Human Beings!)
I like the inverter noise test, specifically that you actually measure the noise with the dirty power meter. I am wondering if noisy inverters may affect wifi range and throughput. This would be more widespread/mainstream as far as impact goes vs just affecting HAM radio operators...
I just got this today. An amazing machine for $299(ebay). Nothing comes close for this price. Powered my 700w microwave and it ran at 1250w for 2 mins. Both full size fridge no problem. My only gripes and they're very minor is that the 12v charging is on the low side. 70-79w no matter what. Wish it did the advertise max at 100w. The charging brick is huge but then again, because of it, we get a very nice case to store all the cables. 2 big way thumbs up.
It has an excellent price!
Is the slow 12v charging at exactly 12V? If you can charge it at the normal 13.5-14v system charging, the wattage will go way up.
i still prefer to include a sound meter cuz some power stations can be bothersome if it's noisy enough. Good review btw 😁
Liked and subscribed. Great review. Yes, the noise test is very helpful. One thing I would like to see on this type of video is a test where the watts of the load are slowly increased to the point to were the unit fails to see what the unit can actually handle beyond it's rating. Do you happen to know what the start up surge wattage on your refridgerator is? I imagine the surge rating on all of this types of units are only good for surges that last a few milliseconds. FYI- the link on here to your speadsheet is currently not working.
Thanks for the recommendations! Sometimes there are so many people in the spreadsheet it fails to load. Just try the link again and it should work. You can also go to the spreadsheet through my website and clicking on the power station tab: Jasonoid.com
I have the Perron 2000 an I’m waiting on the 600 to arrive. I’ve been very pleased with the 2000 but bought the 600 for more portable uses.
Both are excellent budget power stations!
New regular price is now $299 and your 5% code still works
Wow, that's an even better price!
Great review, seems like a good bang for the buck.
The external charging brick is a PLUS ! Reduced weight and reduced heat inside the power station. The only negative I can think of is you will build LESS upper body strength from carrying around a lighter power station . . . . . boo - hoo . AND an 'app' won't put the plug into the power station . . . . you have to do that 'in person' . . . . . = don't need no extra 'complexity' of no stinkin' app ! ! !
The Pecron E-2000 offers an additional year on the warranty with 'registration' . . . . this one may as well?
My 'opinion' : Like Angelina Jordan . . . . . it's a 9.5 ! ! ! take care, rh
Where I live we want our power stations to be too heavy for drug addicts to carry away.
You met a very helpful video
Jason, Thank you for the review. As always, your spreadsheet is KING. This PecronE600LFP has a great price point and I feel folks who shop price point at this level of Solar Generator probably don't have $1,000 worth of solar panels but rather all they will have is the external charging brick that comes with this model. I still feel the EcoFlow Delta 2 is better, but I certainly understand this purchase. Folks would be wise to watch about five of your videos to learn your format and truly learn solar generator parts and pieces. But if they just want to jump and go then this Pecron E600LFP is a good pool to jump into just not the best pool. Take care.
Thanks Dan! The Delta 2 is quite the beast. I have seen it on sale for $800. It's pretty much double this unit in so many ways so the price is right about where it should be!
You're comparing 2 different category. The Pecron is considered portable vs medium size. 20lbs vs 27lbs. Ecoflow lowest is ~$800. This one can be had for $299 which I bought one. This is by far the best portable solar station in its category. Nothing I've seen come close. Price, power outputs, efficiency.
I would’ve easily chosen this over my Delta 1300 2 years ago. No issues with the Delta, but this price is amazing with better efficiency.
Two years ago there weren't that many options and the Delta 1300 was one of the best to chose from. A couple years later we have more options. Getting a budget unit like this is always a little bit of a gamble when it comes to customer support, you don't have that issue with EcoFlow.
Yep, units like this make me regret my River+battery.
Just purchased the Pecron E600LFP using your discount. 👍
I didn't see any Jackery on your grading sheet though.
I hope you enjoy the E600! Speaking of the Jackery units, they wouldnt fair very well in my grading system. They are expensive for the feature set, don't charge very quickly, and use the less desirable NMC batteries. The pro models have been updated recently but they still lack expansion batteries, high solar input, LFP batteries, and smart app connectivity. Anker is a bigger name to look out for as one of the up and coming brands.
@@Jasonoid thanks.
Seems a good buy indeed. Affordable .
Thanks for the amazing review. Do you just test them or do you use them in the longterm? Would be interested to know about durability longterm
I try to keep around as many units as possible but I have limited storage space. I usually have products in future videos on the channel.
Sounds pretty good!
😎thanks Jason 🌷
Regarding support: presales -> they were supposed to deliver to a certain country in EU, however, there was an issue with the shopify instance they have. Sorted it out in a couple of days and now you can order fine. So, if your country is in the list, but there is an error -> let them know. So far, promising ...
Very nice review. Please continue the noise test. As you say, it often won't matter; but it could, especially if it is bad, and someone's specific use-case is portable ham operation.
I take it the USB-C port is NOT bidirectional in this one?
Is the 400W input port a standard connector of some kind, or is it proprietary? Non-standard stuff is a potential con; may be a dealbreaker to some (think Olight's non-standard batteries that can't be charged in a standard charging bay).
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. It's a non bidriectional USBc 100w port. Also the port is an aviation type port, not sure if it's proprietary to Pecron. It does come with both an MC4 adapter and an AndersonPowerPole adapter so you can use the products you want to charge it up.
what if you want to buy one gx18mf?
it is always nice to have the noise level tested, since you have your fancy new tester, perhaps you can add this to another column of your power stations test sheet and perhaps even back test some of your older power stations that you still have possession of.
this unit looks decent and at a good price, however it is lacking a few notable features that newer power stations have, like the integrated ac wall charging and therefore lack of ups feature. and im sorry but i dont want to carry a brick with my power station, please integrate the ac charging.
it at least does have very good solar charging capability. but without having enough surge capacity to start a fridge, it will be relegated to only portable fridges.
having app capability would be neat, but it isn't on my list of things i need.
I have had those noise numbers on the grading system for a couple weeks now. Check out the spreadsheet to see the results, the second tab more importantly since that's where all the advanced results are listed. jasonoid.com/powerstations/
ah i didn't notice because it is on the second tab, thank you.
@@user--PM the first page is the actual grading and needs to be fast and simple, the second tab is where I throw everything else. I'm always adding new information / columns to that second page.
I've been running my apartment sized fridge off it for 2 days connected to a 120 watt portable solar panel. Average draw is under 60 watts. It will safely start and fun my 6,000 btu window air-conditioner which draws @750 watts, but for less than an hour.
On my counter top ice maker that start surge is about 750 watts then @120 watts running, I can unplug the charging inverter with no power disruption or need to turn anything on again. Same thing on my 32" tv which draws @40 watts. No loss of power if I unplug the ac charger while running. But I don't have a PC to test any other UPS function.
My countertop stove @1,000 watt burner uses 10% of watts to heat (not cook) about a 5 minute meal. Hope this information helps anybody.
I may buy a second, but first will be a larger permanent solar panel system for the sailboat that is my home.
Peace
Great info 👍
My very first pecron had a cooling fan that surged intermittently when completely cold. Took 3-4 email exchanges to troubleshoot and provide a video. In the end they refunded my money as I purchased it from them directly
Some of their units seems to be problematic. They need to do quality check before shipping. I've gotten a faulty E600LFP and had to return it for a replacement. Quality control needed.
Thanks Jason for your straight forward - complete reviews.
So far my favorite is my Ecoflow River 2 Pro. I am considering a 100ah LiFePo4 battery with an inverter as a back-up charging devise of it. Any thoughts?
That should work well to charge it up. Those 100ah batteries have quite a bit of power in them. Just make sure the inverter has enough wattage to support the full charging speed so it doesn't get overloaded when you plug it in.
Jason, thanks for the very detailed review. I have a very pressing question: you mention that the 400w input is meant for charging solar in SERIES. I have two 100w TopSolar panels atop my van running in PARALLEL. Can I not make use of this input port as such? I'd very much appreciate your input at your earliest convenience.
Excellent video, first time viewer, new subscriber.
One question. What is the name of the connection where the 400w solar panel connection goes?
Is that connection proprietary to Pecron?
It's an 'aviation style' connector and it's proprietary to Pecron. That have mc4 adapter cables included as well.
@@Jasonoid tyvm
Hi thank you for the review 👍. 👍🐝🌞
Thanks for watching!
I have to share, I was trying to find a "quiet" way to charge this up slowly and was trying a bunch of different 12v supply's. A 12v supply has to be pretty beefy to not get really hot, at least 120w or 10 amp supply. I thought what the heck and plugged in my e-bike charger since it was 48v @ 3a with the same 5.5 x 2.1 connector with the correct polarity and guess what, it works fine. It still maxes out at about 80w, but quiet, cool and WAY smaller brick. I so wish they had labeled that port correctly for whatever it can accept, I am guess other than wattage limiting it is using the same MPPT as the port below it at 95v max, but that is just a guess.
Mine is the same. Max seems to be 80w. They should relabel that port @80w max instead of 100w.
As always, great review. I love the price points of the pecron units I just do not like that there is no UPS capabilities. I don't know what to think of the huge inverter of 1200 watts with such a small battery capacity. I am befuddled on their logic, so the jury is still out. As you mentioned about their customer service I want everyone who follows you to know that it is very lacking and if you have had an issue they expect you to pay for shipping it back to them. I had ordered their big one during Black Friday and decided to send it back because It had no UPS. They would not send me a shipping label and it had to come out of my own pocket.
Thanks Shelly for sharing your experience about Pecron support. I always hope to hear positive things about the products in my videos instead of the negative. This is what I'm thinking may have happened in your instance:
Usually a company will require the buyer to ship a product back on their own dime if there isn't a issue with the product, but they just want to return it for one reason or another. Probably due to the size and weight of the device.
Now is this the right choice by the company? I don't think so. I'm sorry to hear about your experience and I really hope your power station experiences in the future are better. Thank you for sharing what happened!
Maybe with enough solar input this could power a very efficient air conditioner on very sunny days?
I actually agree with their logic. Just look at the EB3A with 268wh and 600w inverter and one of the most popular power station., This unit basically double the EB3A. The specs of this unit is perfect for camping. Just enough power to run most appliances. Between my panels and he car 12v, I can keep this device top off.
Great review. I see some of your minuses as pluses. Don't want a app got enough things tracking me. I get the app for a 20kw system but for this? I'm weird I like the brick first I cant loose it to big but I can easily loose a cord. I don't want an internal brick because if it breaks I need a new power station that stinks. If the external breaks I buy a new one. Pecrons support for me was awesome. One of my 200 watt portable solar panels stopped working so I emailed them. They asked some questions and had me make a video proving it didn't work. So I did and they sent me a new one. They are selling the e600 for 299 right now probably going to pick up 2 of them.
We all have different use cases. The grading system was created with the 'majority' of my viewers in mind but that doesn't cover everyone. Thanks for the feedback and sharing your experience!
😎thanks Jason🐬
You're welcome!
At what point is the inverter absolutely maxed out for surge startups? I saw that it shut down immediately at 1600 watts. How high can it go above 1200 watts for say 10 seconds or so? Great video btw. One of the best reviews I've ever watched.
It can pull anything under 1280 watts and then it shuts off from being overloaded.
The discount code still works 🎉
Jason I just bought the pecron after watching you video. I'd really like a video on the ultimate set up with it. Such as best solar options to max out out by the way for a elecaenta 200w dollar panel coming as well. Gonna run my bougerv trap version and hopefully a diesel heater. In depth video on something like this would be great. Thank you Sir
I picked up the Elecaenta 200w panel, I have a huge comparison video coming out soon. I also just did a fridge test using the Pecron in last week's video.
Would it hurt the pecron to charge with the 200 elecaenta at 20V into the 32V - 95V charging port
@@mountainman9555 it probably won't charge since it's below the 32v minimum voltage. I tried charging with a 200w / 20v panel on mine the other day and it wouldn't accept a charge. Lower voltage has to be connected to the barrel port.
Mine charged with it even under load
This thing is almost perfect for my needs except when connected to solar panels. When the sun goes down, the unit goes into a mode where the fans start to run and keep increasing in speed as the unit gets warms. It doesn't stop until you unplug the panels. During the day, it charges fine when the sun is up.
When I did this test for 3 days straight (overnight included), I didn't notice that issue with my E600: ruclips.net/video/EnlPtblawS8/видео.html
You might want to check with Pecron support since I don't see that.
mine does the same among other issues. they need to replace mine. ive been emailing with them, back and forth.
I just picked up the same product but with a 200 W solar panel now for $599. It's just too damn good deal
Great review and budget pricing. I'm saving up for the 3000 watt expansion unit for E2000LFP. Will be looking forward to the review of the expansion unit when you get one. BTW, if you register the unit on the Pecron site, you get a 2 year warranty. BTW, most hams would probably use the DC power output, so the noisy inverter would be a non issue.
Thanks for the info ronbotex, much appreciated.
That's a great point about the DC output. At 13.6V, this one would be suitable for mobile ham radios. KN4CPY.
I appreciate the noise interference tests.. but I'd really love to see you do one with you shredding on the 6 string man!! haha 🤘🤘
Sounds like I need to pick up an new skill! HAHA
@@Jasonoid Nowadays a computer will play guitar for you. Just hold the guitar and bangon the strings.
Hello Jason, it's me again. I've been diligently following your testing procedures outlined in your instructional videos, which have been immensely helpful for a beginner like me. Based on your review, I purchased the same unit you recommended. While attempting the testing, I encountered a setback - I damaged my 12V cigar plug and am currently waiting for a replacement. In the meantime, I improvised using a 5525 to Anderson plug that I had on hand for a capacity test last night. I'm uncertain if this substitution had any impact on my results, but I recorded a capacity of only 536Wh at 5 amps.
I recall from your video that you achieved 566 or 566.25Wh, indicating a 91% capacity rating compared to the advertised capacity. However, when I applied this formula Percentage = (614/566) x 100, I obtained 92.18%. Could you confirm if this is the correct formula to use, or if there's another method I should consider? I plan to conduct the test again, ensuring the battery is fully charged. Any insights or information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
The testing results will vary depending on the amperage discharge rate. I usually discharge around 9 - 10 amps for my discharge tests.
This is the formula I use for my videos:
Test results / rated capacity = usable capacity percentage.
566 / 614 = 0.921 or 92.1%
@@Jasonoid Thank you Jason for replying, good info👍. Note the only reason I went with the 5 amps is because of the limitation of the 5525 DC output plug. Unless I read the specs. wrong. It seems that the 12V cigar port is limited to 10 amps.
@@minceym yes, the 5521 ports are not rated for much power, the connector gets warm when pulling over the rated amperage. You can pull higher power in quick bursts only.
For 12v plugs (the male end), they are all created differently. Some 12v plugs are rated for 25 amps continous, some can hardly hold 10 amps without melting.... Kinda a crap shoot with those and they can be complete junk! If you notice any melting at 10 to 15 amps you know it's not a well built 12v plug.
@@Jasonoid WOW! I didn't know that. Any suggestions on a good 12V plug? I just ordered a cheap pigtail plug from Amazon. I was going to add an Anderson plug on the other end. As I mentioned earlier the plug was damaged i.e. "Fall Apart" 🙄
@@minceym I bought the Bestek 300 pure sine inverter awhile ago that came with a 12v plug to power it, I chopped it off and put an inline Anderson Powerpole connection so I can use the plug separately when I want.
Since the inverter can handle 300 watts at 12v, the plug should be able to handle 25 amps. Here's the inverter with the high power plug:
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You convinced me to pull the trigger; I do like my built system. but it was this or a high-quality large inverter. I thought this would be easier to move from place to place.
The price is really great on this model, hard to beat for what it is! It will be a bit more power over your EB3A.
@@Jasonoid Yes. Amazon had it on sale for $325.00 in June.
@@Jasonoid, More power but I tried to duplicate Katy's Camp Kitchen using the 12 volt Sabot cooker and I guess it overheated and shut down. I had it in the shade on an 85F day and it wouldn't take it. So I got the EB3a out and plugged that in to finish cooking. I did plug in a solar panel to the EB3a and it worked flawlessly. I contacted Pecron and got no reply. I am not very happy with it and I find the big proprietary charging port to be a nightmare to adapt to my different panels. The only way to use this port is to use their MC4 connectors. It is sorta like Zamp and their reverse polarity plugs. I will never buy another Pecron product again. I use the EB3a's to charge the Pecron via the cigarette plug. The Pecron did return to normal after about three hours in the basement.
You might’ve said this and I missed it, because you put so much information in here and I really appreciate it, but will this go with the solar panels I already have? I can’t remember if that’s a thing or not? Thanks Jason!
This will work with many different brands of solar panels.
I really appreciate your honesty in product review! The detailed summary sure helps decision making for the solar set up that fits our individual needs! Thank you! ☺️
One thing to note is the top USB-C and the USB-A are tie together, if you plugin 2 devices at the same time only one port will get power, same with the bottom 2 ports... design flaw? :)
I really like the 95-volt solar input, wish all power stations had a limit around 120-volt solar input. I would get their 2000 model if it could take around 150 volts solar. I think it is capped around 60 volts. I bought some used solar panels from Santan solar before Christmas that put out 32 volts and right now I don't have a power station that can take them in series. I got 6 230 watt panels for 250 dollars, and I live close enough to one warehouse to take a day and pick them up to save on shipping. The shipping is expensive.
I wish I lived closer to a source like that! Shipping panels is expensive and they can get damaged!
@@Jasonoid Yeah, the cost of shipping would have doubled the price. It took one tank of gas and around 7 hours total round trip to pick them up myself. But includes stopping for lunch and pit stops. I know they have one warehouse in Arizona and the one in Georgia that i went to.
I talked to one guy that lives in North Carolina that decided to go to santan based on my suggestion over buying 4- 100 watt panels from harbor freight, after he bought an oukitel 2000 and wanted to try to get close to 500 watt, and he made a weekend trip out of it to pick up a 455 watt bifacial panel there. I think it cost around 250 dollars new. He told me he has seen around 470 watts from it.
The 2000 Pecron unit is capped around 700vdc for solar input.
@@eddietee6305 I am not sure where you got that number from. The unit says 95 volt max on each input for the solar chargers. It has a 600 watt limit per input.
@@jw3843 sorry I meant to say 700W. Not 700V.
Great review. No phone support scares me, as does only standing in warranty for 12 months. Red flags. I bought an E2000 & was excited about expansion batteries as well as picking up this little 600. Have read several bad service reviews however, both for equipment failure and non-response, or slow response, from company. Human contact is critical when it comes to tech we may be trusting our lives to. Had I looked further into company, I would have gone with Ecoflow. I like what I see, but may cool it a bit until service improves or competitors join expansion options. Not dropping 5 grand and not have someone to talk to. Work too hard for my money. I hope it goes ok. Will see as time goes on. Dang it! I wanted to buy every product they had, til reviewers pointed out lack of customer support.
Support is an important aspect for sure. I have heard good things and bad things about Pecron support. For the most part it's good and they handle any issues with urgency.
@@Jasonoid keeping an open mind. Been waiting 3 days for email response to 2 fairly simple questions a tech person could have answered in under a minute. And they were questions about purchase was ready to pull trigger on. I’m a gramma. Independent, but not knowledgeable enough to Google all the answers. So far… service IJsselmeer been a zero. A tech at a store I didn’t buy from was helpful, but that only goes so far if not a direct customer. Will try Pecron’s chat again.
it comes with a 24 month warranty here in the Philippines on line, shopee, lazada
As to Pecron support - I had an issue with the E2000 LFP where it stopped taking a charge from any source. Given the time zone issues, Pecron was responsive and helpful through their chat channel. Response was not immediate, but reasonably quick. I provided pictures to aid in communication. After some testing, per their suggestions, they ultimately sent me a new unit, after I returned the faulty one. Also, I had an issue syncing the EB3000 expansion battery. It was due to faulty cable initially sent. They gave me instructions to fix it (breaking off a couple of pins), but I asked for their upgraded one, which Pecron promptly sent. Happy with their support and the unti is now working as expected. I will likely purchase the additional EB3000 expansion battery in the near future. Cheers!
I've had problems with the E600LFP but they sent me a replacement though.
I would like to buy the E2000LFP but I'm a little worried that some of their products are not rigorously tested. So many bad units should not be shipped.
I've heard a lot about broken Pecron products in the comments section of my videos. Some people have had good experience with their support group, some haven't. I hear of mostly issues with their charging breaking.
@@Jasonoid yeah. I want to purchase the E2000LFP but I'm looking at your suggestions - ANKAR767, Delta Ecoflo max 2 and others.
@@Jasonoid their support group is good though.
@@eddietee6305 I just had the same problem. I was loving it had no problems for 3 months then left it running with a small 300w load overnight. In the morning 0 charge and Can't charge with briick, the 12 -18V solar, or with 300 watt panel at 77V. Screen dead. I have sent three requests and they have not answered yet so support was worse for me! I was just getting ready to buy the E2000LFP but changed my mind. Hopefully they will fix mine or at least contact me in the future.
What’s the impact of all these solar generators that don’t appear to have ground conductors in there AC receptacles?
I never hear anyone mention it.
I also have issues trying to find AC input requirements as it relates to THD. Can you charge it with a non inverter generator safely?
I was curious your thoughts on the subjects..
I’m looking for a solution for my campers fridge that’s just 120v and propane so I can safely power it while driving. I am not a fan of running propane while driving.
I could see this being an option and then utilizing you “charging hack” with a battery or pair of batteries in series or some dc upconverters.
Thanks for the info you provide.
Please do keep testing for noise. I find it a useful if niche metric.
I think Pecron make really big up with both this E600LFP and sister E1500LFP. Some of bigger brand need to learn from Pecron.
I agree!
Jason, I noticed the AC plugs are not grounded. I have seen other portable power stations where there is not just a hole, there is a small opening for the ground pin. Are power stations such as this one with only an open hole less safe?
Even power stations that have a ground pin intact, the entire power station is still not grounded. Most people don't worry about grounding gas generators or power stations.
If you had to pick one power station that could run anything I want to throw at it( run a fridge, heated blanket, diesel heater etc) what would it be? Assume some solar recharging during the day and a separate small power station to recharge phones, lights, other small electronics.
I struggle to decide how much power I really need.
The 2000w models are pretty awesome for running any single appliance yet still being "portable". I'll be reviewing the Anker 767 on the channel soon. I've seen really good things about that one. I'm also looking forward to the new Ecoflow Delta 2 Max (not released yet but it should have LFP batteries and match the Delta Max specs). The Bluetti AC200MAX is a good contender but doesn't have all the newest features.
Jason you state the smaller charging port is good for up to 25 volts but its labeled as18 volts and the manual states 18 volts as well. wont a 100 watt panels open circuit voltage be too high since their usually around 20 or 21volts?
I'd say the manual is pretty vague about the true voltage allowances, unfortunately. I have used 5 or 6 different 100 panels that had higher voltage than the 18v 'limit' and they works just fine to charge it up. It shouldn't be an issue with most 100w panels.
Currently on sale at $350 and code still works making it $332, free std shipping & no tax from the mfg ! 💣💥
I just got a replacement unit of the E690LFP na doing some testing and trials, I realized that when you turn on the "DC out" the unit stops charging. Don't know if you did this test.
However, the unit will still charge and discharge during the time the "AC out" is switched on.
Apparently there is no pass thru charging for the DC out function. Not good.
I hooked up an additional watt meter to the input and observed that the unit stops charging during the DC on usage.
I tested pass through charging will all outputs enabled (AC and DC), mine didn't have that issue.
@@Jasonoid great. It seems Pecron doesn't do enough testing of these units.
Pecron will extend the warranty to 2 years if you register the device on their web site.
I purchased 2 of these 8 months ago and have only used them a couple of times. I checked on them recently only to find one at 1% state of charge, the other was still near 100%. Not sure why one was down to 1% as I'm pretty sure I didn't leave it that way. Anyway when I hooked it up to charge it will not accept a charge from the DC IN or from the solar IN using the provided AC adapter. When I contacted Pecron they said it was under warranty and would replace it after I pay to ship it back to their warehouse in Quebec (I live in Alberta). They offered to provide a UPS label that would cost me $80 CAD. Instead I can ship it Canada Post for around $50. I'm probably going to go ahead with the repair/replacement, although I'm not particularly happy I have to pay to return it. I also question the quality of the components given that this has only been charged/discharged a couple of times and no longer works. Does anyone have an idea why it is no longer accepting a charge? Is it because the state of charge is down to 1%?
My guess is one of the outputs was left on by accident until it died. After it died it wasn't charged back up so the minor power drain over time caused the battery to discharge to a point too low for the charger to see the battery anymore. I recommend checking on these every couple months and making sure they are charged up. When storing them away. Make sure all outputs are turned off.
Of course it is possible that either the DC or AC output was left on, however I do not believe that was the case as I'm very careful with batteries and do recall checking on them periodically noting that the displays were off. I've returned it to Pecron and they said after they've had a look they will let me know what was wrong.
Jason, any idea if the orange corners could be removed or how difficult that is to do ?
Thank you.
I think a screw is holding on each corner, it shouldn't be too horrible.
Its prime day and im looking for the best budget portable 200 watt panel for this. Ive looked at the all power SP035 for $231($50 off coupon right now) and the Baldr 200 watt for $218. Will these be good with this or are there better choices? The pecron panels are 36 volt. would they charge faster than these 18 volt panels?
Just picked this up from Pecron directly, $350, free shipping as well.
Such a great price!
I wonder if you can charge the E600 with the Pecron AC 600w quick charger and max out at 400w 🤔 If you own the E2000LFP then just use that brick to charge the E600 and you'll trim the charge time down to 1.5 hours. Especially helpful if you're charging from a generator.
I doubt it would be an issue. The charger is within spec of the charging port and the power station will limit the input automatically. That shouldn't be an issue.
Interesting that the model now (6.15.'24) for sale on Pecron's site is rated at a max of 300W input on the bottom DC(/PV) input. Even more interesting that this port is listed as "Voc 32V~95V / 300W Max / 15A Max", which really makes no sense, because even the lowest rated input voltage of 32V would result in 480W if inputting at the rated 15 Amps. It's like they derated the overall power input of the port for some reason, but it can (possibly) still actually handle 400+W.
Curious about the refrigerator fail w/1600w surge. I emailed Pecron about the surge capacity of this unit and they stated 2000w.
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Hello Paul, The Surge power of E600LFP is 2000W
Yeah, the surge might be rated at 2000w but that's only for milliseconds and some fridges need that power for 2 to 3 seconds to start the compressor. If your fridge is pretty new, you shouldn't have the same issue.
@@Jasonoid It's older...FLA 6.5 115V Not sure what the surge would be.
@@zippy2641 I always recommend a full 2000 watt inverter for full sized fridges.