@@friccle_ Every melee weapon nowdays has a forward dash move for engaging. You jump on that motherfucker, saw through the ground which magically propells you forward a short distance dealing damage and at the end of the distance you slam that shit into the ground. It's the most useless attack cus it has no range, but im too busy RIDING MY FUCKING SAW TO HEAR ABOUT EFFICIENCY!
@@friccle_ Oh right, that's not just a table saw being called a weapon. That thing is as big enough to probably be twice your Warframe's weight. If you held on to the top from your hip, the saw would probably reach down past your knee.
@@aronsvanlaugsson5338 TELL ME WHICH INPUTS THESE ARE, I'M GONNA SKATE THROUGH STEELPATH LIKE I'M PLAYING A BUFFED YARELI Edit: I did some tedting with the ghoulsaw and got it to go quite q decent distance with the glide combo
quick note, the Anku will actually open up into a full scythe when held in your hand. (which is probably worse for it) Also the image for nikana(s) is the sword and sheath
You do attack with the Anku like it's a giant spike instead of trying to cut with it. The Reaper Prime, Hate and I don't remember what other scythe there is except for the Anku and Ether Reaper all fall for the same extremely impractical "war-scythe" trope, while at the very least you aren't expected to hit with the inner edge with those exceptions.
Also, the nikana is a picture of the sheath and the sword. The sword, if I remember correctly, looks like a very standard katana ( I could be mistaken)
Yeah, all four(?) Nikanas I can think of have very plane blades, and the only one with any weird design elements is the Skiajati, but that's just some ornamentation on the handle.
Ah! You've got my attention! As a veteran Warframe player: Most of our melee weapons definitely are form over function. However to address a few weapons you questioned, not from the perspective of it being used by Warframes. All freaking rapiers: Agreed, they aren't practical in the slightest. There's legitimately no reason besides it looks cool to the average person. Karyst: I'm not sure at all why they made the Karyst Prime the way it is but I feel like you should see how big it actually is in game. The thing is classified as a dagger but is large enough to probably count as a short sword - in game it actually has the longest reach of any dagger, bringing it to actually stand near the long sword class. That all only makes the design choice weirder to look at. Kreska: Not even gonna bother spelling it right since that weapon doesn't even weapon right. When you brought that up and said "I don't know how the kreska works" I said to myself out loud "Neither do we" but for a serious answer, I would imagine it's supposed to be a form of multi tool? The main purpose is probably to use for breaking apart ice and gathering samples, especially since it somehow lights on fire. Don't get me wrong, it probably sucks at all those jobs but it's supposed to look cool. Enemies in game just swing it around, I think it's classed as an axe? Ghoul Saw: Laugh at it. It was a joke that people memed until eventually wanting it for real. The thing is actually really awful as a weapon but that's definitely for the stats rather than accuracy to real life. The only moveset it has involves swinging it around and primarily holding it out forwards and trying to cut through enemies. It's ungodly stupid to use but also fun since you can ride it a tiny bit. Venka: Eh. Claws look cool. I don't expect them to work very well, though judging by the look of Venka, it actually might be able to cut your hand very easy if you don't wear thick gloves, never a problem for warframes with their metal skin but is a problem for us humans with our regular skin. Overall, nice video! I'm surprised you didn't touch on a gunblade or two in it, figured the Redeemer wouldn't have been the only one you'd think was weird.
There's a Steel Path build for the Ghoulsaw that is just extremely inconvenient. Requires you to basically spam attacks to proc guaranteed slash in enemies and just let the slash procs tick enemies down.
You forgot to tell him that the first weapon he looked at UNFOLDS she you're using it cause when you're not using it, it folds down to make easier to carry
Some useful info on the mechanisms behind how a warframe is constructed from a huge lore nerd, which could provide some explanation for any future analysis of weapons, hopefully without spoiling anything. A lot of this information becomes available from "The Second Dream" to "The Sacrifice", though other elements that are not specifically stated are heavily implied based on either mechanics, quotes, or other lore tidbits. Anyone reading, let me know if I got anything wrong, as it's helpful to know!: The chassis of a warframe is a mostly synthetic mesh comprised of small metal particulate, akin to iron filings but on the scale of nanometers. These particles bind together through an unknown mechanism to create a flexible but highly resilient "skin", explaining how holding a blade, such as that of the Kunai, would cause surprisingly little damage. This mesh is also regenerative, and is capable of hardening or softening at will/altering chemical properties via the systems, meaning it is equally resistant to all forms of potential harm, protecting the internal components. Below this skin is a form of biomechanical muscular system formed from mostly organic tissue (which is why they can bleed). This tissue is reinforced by a mycelium type network of techno-organic cells, blostering strength and damage resistance (this is where the skin is theoretically replenished) while also being riddled with circuitry designed to convert void energy from an Orokin cell array into a variety of useful forms. These cells on their own cannot generate a large amount of power (only enough for basic movement, vision and life support), but through some form of dimensional engineering they have an uplink to a much larger power source hidden within a mostly infested moon in an alternate reality. This power is controlled via the mind of the user using a system known as a Somatic Link to manifest the abilities seen ingame, though with various subroutines that assist in combat such as supercharging muscles in order to allow for greatly accelerated motion, reflexes and strength, or the ability to overclock all systems a few times before needing repairs in order to come back from the brink of death, while also providing a passive void shield in most cases. This barrier can detect incoming fire or attacks of any kind in order to absorb all directed energy, though this puts the system under stress, and after enough punishment the shield will break completely for a period of time until the Warframe is no longer under fire. On breaking, the Shield will briefly surge with power to absorb all energy from the last attack, in a last ditch effort to protect the frame, and after a period of time will begin recharging. Shields are however susceptible to electromagnetic interference and have a curious interaction with bladed weapons. If a blade strikes the shield with force enough to split it, it will take much longer to recharge, as the shield itself will "bleed" for a period of time, with the wound eventually transferring to the Warframe if the damage cannot be repaired in time. As they are not fast moving projectiles or substances with obvious/preventable energy transfer; toxins, extreme temperature drops, magnetic interferences, instances of irradiation, corrosion or viral infection, and electrocution can all easily bypass shielding, even if the attack itself cannot. Toxins are particularly proficient, as the Warframes themselves allow for air flow through the mesh skin, meaning any poisons that enter the device will cause damage even if the shield is fully restored. Any other form of incoming damage is prevented, however. Internal damage to electrical components or muscular systems will not be repaired, unfortunately, and must be maintained between combat situations by an external device, often contained onboard the orbiter of the Tenno in question. Finally, below all of these sensitive systems, biomechanical devices and metallic shielding, an endoskeleton is present, comprised of a much more tightly bound form of the epidermal tissue, appearing akin to a humanoid skeleton of solid metal, with a composition similar to that of animal bone, though heavily reinforced by an intelligent nanoswarm that provides a contact point between the rest of the Warframe and the neuroptic components within the helmet, which translate user thoughts into actionable commands via a transference bolt connected to a blend of nervous tissue and semi-intelligent nanomachines that interface with both the skeleton and mycelium network. Warframes are beyond a shadow of a doubt an extremely effective combat platform, providing the user with an excess of strength, reflexive capabilities and resilience to damage, all the while enabling them to make use of interdimensional physics to manifest ungodly abilities. With all of this, it's no real wonder why a single Tenno threat is often met with an entire enemy army, who all subsequently get creamed hard enough that all that's left is little more than a large red stain. Merge that with an absolutely absurd selection of weapons that no human could reasonably use and enough technology to both take on an entire empire and win, and you have yourself a fully armed Tenno. Hopefully this explains how some of these tools are used in the methods they are (e.g. the Venka risking breaking bone or the Kunai slicing the hand to ribbons), or even how it's physically possible for the Tenno to use them (Such as the Galatine Prime or the Grattler), as in universe, effectively nobody else comes even close to what we can do
What’s the source of all this, particularly the mycelium-like connection part? Is this mostly a mix of extrapolation from in-game mechanics and existing lore or a lot of speculation? You might wanna doublespace for better readability.
@@eyywannn8601 That's a yup on the spores - infestation spreads mainly through that. It's like a swarm of semi-synthetic nanobots that "evolves" everything it touches. In the case of the Warframes, it was engineered specifically to help work with them
@@eyywannn8601 Most of that can be found in game (e.g. Xaku's 4 exposes the internal skeleton, and Valkyr had her chassis partly removed, exposing what looks to be orange polymer armour beneath), though some is speculation, such as with the Orokin cells, as whilst almost everything points to it in lore, design, and mechanics - it's not explicitly stated or shown Also agreed lol
I don't know if you know, but the rapier "Destreza" is a reference to the term for the spanish fencing art known as "La Verdadera Destreza" or "the true skill"
God, the ghoulsaw is hilarious. I love it so much. Can you believe the community has heen asking for it for like 3 years, and it was only added recently?
I'm sure it's been said by now, but the "Thing with the dragon nikana" That big red bit is actually the sheath. And If I remember right, the blade part of Anku like.. pops up a bit when unsheathed.
All Nikana's are shown with their sheath, and most of their beginning attacks start with Iai style slashes, you almost never hold them out at the ready and once you stop swinging your character automatically sheaths the sword again. There's also a stance mod that primarily consists of quick bashes with the hilt while holding the sword by the sheath.
in one of warframe's trailer you actually see excalibur holding a kunai in reverse grip with his index finger on the ring, so yeah that's exactly how they are used XD
I've been playing Warframe for years and the Ghoulsaw is added not that long ago. And yeah, I agree, it looks pretty weird to be used as a weapon. Even in game I wouldn't recommend using this weapon. To be honest, using a dagger is more effective than using a ghoulsaw
@@Furi_S_Poi I know, it sounds and look awesome. But as someone who wields into the battlefield, I can say that it is not as effective as using a dagger. The reason being in Warframe we have a mod stance that allowed us to use dagger to kill faster and move faster from one point to another
The weird part of the bottom of the dark sword is where the dark Dagger attaches. You need to look at the dark split sword to see the whole picture. Also the Kuni are direct replica of there real world counter part. They have made them like that for hundreds of years and have been used in actual combat.
As someone who loves weapons and Warframe the extra part of the dark dagger is so that you can attach a dark sword to it making the dual dark dagger which can be used as dual daggers or a big sword... With the nikana it's in the shesh in the image and they are used in the attack combos to smack or slam the enemy and in the melee guard animation it's used to block and support the main blade. kreska is also a scythe both sides of the blade are sharp think of it as a thick dual sided exacto blade.... Ghoulsaw is a meme in it's self it's been asked for for year because a enemy ig has it you also ride on it for a few seconds during the combo... Want some odd things look up the jet kusar, war and broken war, glave, and garas glass hammer I forgot what it's called....
There are three things I want to talk about : 1) The curve at the bottom of the Dark Sword can also serves as a connection for the is dual-bladed variant 2) All images of nikanas (or katanas) in the game show the weapon and its sheath 3) And yeah, iirc the blade of the Masseteer is supposed to spin
Yeah its stated to be like a grinder and it's themed after Grendel. Certain weapons are designed after various warframes and get special bonuses if used in a matching set.
--and the bit on the handle is a lever that you squeeze when you draw it, to extend the blade. Seems like that would make your hand tired pretty fast, but I am not a cyborg zombie ninja.
You did your take on the Tatsu, but what about the other variant of the "Two-Handed Nikana" weapons, The Pennant? Quick note on the Fang: Their in-game design doesn't have a cutting edge; just a narrowed edge of the "blade" portion of the weapons possibly to make a directional serration on exit rather than to actually slice in a swing. The weapon itself also primarily has puncture damage with a small amount of slash
And the prime, that unlike the regular is not a circular spike shaped pointer but an actual BLADE used to not deal slash damage, only puncture and impact and was considered worse than its regular variant for the first 6 years of the game
@@tinycervid7679 if your nikana is laser, theres very little sense in making it 2 handed, theres 0 weight or mass to justify using such a weapon in 2 hands and even than, its likely the powersupply that provides weight and due to the immaterial nature of the blade you cant even force leverage with it. Its not the dumbest weapon design by far, but its D tier
I would like to see your perspective on how these weapons would feel to a being that can't physically feel uncomfortable grip and stuff like that. Because personally: seeing it from the perspective of a warframe that doesn't really have issues with grip or stuff like that makes all these weapons rely more on if they could do their jobs
What are you talking about?!?! How can Marcus explain how a weapon feels without feeling the grip? You know what oxymoron means (its not an insult). its like asking him to explain how it would feel to fly like a dragonfly!! There is NO seperation between "uncomfortable grip" and normal sense of touch. And a full sense of touch is ALWAYS essential to handling and accurately manipulating ANY object weapon or otherwise. This is not hard to comprehend m8. Image trying to eat your dinner with a knife and fork and anesthetize hands ............ wouldn't work out too well would it. Also what makes you think WF cannot feel uncomfortable grip if anything a meta-human melee killing machine would be equipted with hugely heightened sense of touch which would assist greatly in weapon handling ..... just ask Marcus which would be better for a melee dedicated creature lower sense of touch or much higher sense of touch, answer is obvious the anesthetised dinner example tells you all you need to know. Another thing i think you don't get is that a badly balanced, and thus unwieldy weapon cannot "do its job" as well as one that is balanced and weighted correctly. Options would be use a correctly balance/weighted weapon and operate at 100% combat effectiveness or use a weapon not balance/weighted and deliberately reduce your own combat effectiveness ..... doh Many weapons in WF are just stupidly designed as practical weapons, get used to the fact fantasy games often add over designed nonsense, talking added nonsense to try and make sense of then is just silly.
@@Blowfeld20k I think the request is to simply give an explanation on the potential effectiveness of the weapons assuming that balance etc, isn’t a factor, pretty sure it’s kinda obvious that this is a request based around the hypothetical, I.e. disregarding realism to describe the theoretical efficacy of a weapon
@@Blowfeld20k yes I know what an oxymoron is. You can definitely look at a weapon that has a spike in the handle and say "hey yeah everything else about this sword is good but that spike in the handle will mess up everything." I just wanna see his perspective if there was hypothetically no issues with grip, balance, and all the other things that can make or break a weapon for a human. Like the Cassowar is a great example of what I'd like to see his perspective on. Since warframes can't be hurt by their own weapons nor feel discomfort or have any grip issues, I want to see from that perspective if it would feasibly be an advantage to use a weapon like that.
@@Blowfeld20k basically what the guy is asking I think is for the channel to judge it based on the Watsonian perspective, that is, will it work in the context it was put in (if a robotic killing machine with few human limitations used it)
Great points, I always like your vids. Sidenote: I'm pretty the Twin Basolk put out fire from the grey blade-looking section, so they're not really meant for cutting.
The anku when used actually folds the blade out into a more typical scythe appearance and does puncture damage so I think the idea is similar to that of the back of a warhammer having an armour piercing spike
You sir are clearly not human. No human can actually remember the Tonbo and Kreska exist. They are so forgettable that they are basically self keeping secrets.
Paracesis would be one that would be fun to do a deep dive into. lore wise It is known as the Sentient slayer. And Is crafted using the Galatine (A sword to build a sword)
Someone may have already mentioned it, but the Masseter's design is based on a kanabō, keeping in line with Grendel (it's wielder)'s Oni stylings. As to why it's a greatsword, the in-game class is "Heavy Blade", which is the generic title for all big swords, axes, and anything else using those mechanics. The Halikar basically does what it says - in addition to smacking people around with it in your hand, you can charge it up to throw it, causing it to bounce around, smash into enemies, and occasionally disarm them. It's good fun!
@@incog0956 an oni sumo wresling kirby, warframe loves mixed themes so one frame may have many going around, like Yareli being useless and also having the trash part in there
The Anku looks like a weird weapon from some other class but it is actually a scythe, its codex/arsenal icon just shows the blade collapsed. The tree bars holding the blade on swivel slightly when you attack in the game and it opens up to look more like a proper scythe. Yes, the Codex icon for the Nikana, Dragon Nikana, and Nikana Prime all show the sword and the sheath. You need to actually use them in game to see what they look like.
Yes, Karyst is directly inspired from the Kris dagger, both being wavy daggers with damascus pattern (at least the regular Karyst). I agree Karyst Prime just look straight up weird lmao, but it has grown on me overtime
Small tidbits about the Anku and the Dark Sword. The three black bars that the Anku's blade sits on are actually movable parts, which slide it backwards into the position of a traditional scythe. The offshoot segment on the Dark Sword is actually a connection port, where the smaller-but-otherwise-identical-looking Dark Dagger can be placed on.
Quick tip, DE doesn’t understand the difference between polearm and staff, blunt polearms are categorized as staves while bladed staves are categorized as polearms.
@@MarcusVance yep, they are good at making art and gameplay, not researching weapon history. They just stick things together how they think they should work. This is especially noticeable with the Prime Vault change coming tomorrow…
@@MarcusVance also, I own every weapon and stance in the game, if you’d like I can hit you with discord screen share to demonstrate the entire weapons roster and display all their mechanical features and answer any questions for your viewing pleasure.
Two I want to put my two cents on. The Halikar has little jets in the back of the head and the bottom of the handle to help it spin, how it's accurate I couldn't tell you. And the Masseter based on what it's meant to be made of, 0robably weighs at least 50-90 pounds and is just a pissed off blunt object.
If you think some of the weapons are silly, the whole infested arsenal is just what. Like for example bubonico, its a full auto shotgun, with a mortar built in, that also engulfs your entire arm.
My only discussion would be that the Anku and Masseter aren't a scythe and greatsword, true, but are just classified as them because they use the same move sets. Like the massseter is basically a club with how slow it spins, but it's easier to group that under great sword than a hammer or make a new category for a club weapon.
If you ever think that some weapons in that game are silly, just look at kronen. You will forget about everything else. Or frosts favourite: sibear, literally chunk of ice inside a cage on a stick
Surprised you didn't bring up our lovely biohorror deathsticks, the stupid whips we have (like the Atterax, a whip designed by the 'Will It Blend' guys), the Tonfas (telios boltace meta made me think I had carpel tunnel for a week and I never used the fucking things), and perhaps the most memeworthy melee weapon. *The Zenistar.* Also, the Twin Ballsack (Baslok) are supposed to be constantly ON FIRE. And in final, the Tenet Agendus is a Shield and Hammer. Its heavy attack fires an Arca Plasmor blast by slamming the shield into the ground. Make of that what you will.
For the factor of durability, keep in mind that there are some alloys and/or metals that the warframe universe has that might be used to support what may look like fragile equipment
I would actually be interested to see your reaction to these weapons and more actually being used in game and how realistic their use is, as a Warframe player I will say that a lot of weapons are weird but a few look and act like real world weapons. I am sure if you called on your community there would be multiple Warframe players willing to get you some clips. Myself included Great video!
Long-time Warframe veteran here. This oughta be good, because Warframe is a universe where "form over function" is tattooed onto both hands of every blacksmith. The weapons here are WILD, and wildly impractical above all else. *Anku:* this scythe is actually _collapsible._ Those three flimsy attachment points? They're _joints._ *Cassowar:* this god-damn thing is 8 feet long and those two heads are a good four inches thick each, yet it's somehow an incredibly fast weapon. I'm talking ten hits a second with this thing, it's insane. *Ceramic dagger:* A very early weapon in Warframe's history, it's using older design principles of the Cronus and Skana short swords. Ceramic Dagger was mediocre even on launch and is terrible now, it's kind of uninteresting to talk about. *Dark Sword: this is actually a scaled-up dagger. Yes, they took the Dark Dagger, stretched it out to twice the size, drilled two holes into the crossguard, and called it a sword. *Destreza:* You wanna know how out-there they took "form over function" with this thing? They hired a calligraphy artist to create a written language for the fictional Orokin Empire. Then they took his design for the Orokin letter "J," put a cutting edge on it, and viola you have the Destreza. *Dragon Nikana:* That's a scabbard. The Nikana is halfway out of its scabbard. You can see a recurring motif with the Nikana, where the crossguard is actually a flared-out part of the blade rather than a separate piece of metal. *Dual Kamas:* I like the "blood-drip notch" on these things, a rare practical design from Warframe. *Dual Raza:* Oh wow, THESE things. You wanna know what these are? You won't believe me. These are pistol magazines. Yes, these are PISTOL MAGAZINES with handles welded onto them. That's what those spikey things on the cutting edges are, they're pistol rounds. You are hitting people with BULLETS *Ether Reaper:* This thing is supposed to be an energy blade, but the 3D texture messed up and it looks like it's metal instead of translucent energy. *Fang:* I wish I had something to say about these. They seem to be made of scales. *Gazal Machete:* OK funny story about this thing, It's absolutely terrible in-game, slow and weak... and it's still the strongest machete by a wide margin. It's honestly kind of sad. *Ghoulsaw:* I have nothing to add to your commentary. Perfection. *Guandao:* This weapon was added into the game (alongside two playable characters) specifically to promote the developer's acquisition by a Chinese publisher. *Halikar:* We have no idea how it works either. It belongs to the "Throwing Glaive" class (actually chakrams) but that doesn't help much at all. In game mechanics it has a unique mechanic to knock guns out of your hand, and it's implied in the lore to double as a _dog toy._ I'm not making that up. *Karyst:* Not much to add, besides this dagger has innate poison damage. Pretty useful for a dagger. *Kestrel:* This is the Halikar's oft-forgotten sister. Yes, this boomerang counts as a chakram. *Kreska:* The official concept art of this thing states it would be a practical weapon because it has a "carabiner to transport it easily." Yes, that absolutely helps and makes this a practical hand-to-hand weapon, I agree. *Masseter:* Calling it a "greatsword" was just to help the in-game animations. It's actually a Japanese kanabo, crossed with a truck's drivetrain. It does indeed spin rapidly in-game. *Nami Skyla/Solo:* Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum! These are the signature weapons of the character Hydroid, a space pirate. One of his in-game skins even gives him Captain Morgan's coat. *Ninkondi:* These things are radioactive. So is the Dark Sword by the way, I left that out earlier. But yeah, radioactive nunchaku, because why not? It's Warframe. *Orthos Prime:* In the lore, this polearm is made of _pure rubidium._ And if you know your chemistry right now, "what the fuck?!" is indeed the appropriate response. *Pangolin Sword:* This uses the same texture as the Fang, which explains the scales. *Tatsu:* They hyped this thing up for years before finally releasing it. What did they do to make up for the long wait? This thing collects souls and _shoots them back out_ at more enemies. *Tenet Grigori:* This thing comes from a special line of Tenet weapons. Their gimmick is they can fold up into briefcases. You know, so you can whip them out in the courtroom when you're being sued for insider trading. *Tipedo:* For some reason this thing counts as a quarterstaff, not a polearm. Unless you reforge it into the Lesion weapon, which is a polearm even though it has the same shape. Go figure. *Tonbo:* My personal favorite, though I still wanna know why it has heatsinks. *Twin Basolk:* Remember that meme of the red-hot 1,000 degree knife? The Basolk do the same thing, the cutting edges heat up and catch targets on fire. *Venka:* These things have a unique holster animation where they literally just shrink. The devs gave up on lore reasons solely to complete the Wolverine homage. *Kunai:* Sadly these can't be used as melee weapons. In terms of game code, they count as a semi-automatic pistol, with a ten-round magazine. Yeah, imagine holding ten of these in your hands and trying to throw them one at a time Thanks for coming along with this ride through Warframe's history with us!
One of my favorite parts about warframe, as a long time vet of the game, is how this game can go from regular gun, bow, pistol, and melee designs to a a rifle that that uses the souls of enemies you killed with it to make a soul grenade, a bow that launches small thermo nuclear missiles, a pistol that summons an ethereal version of itself, and a sword that's a detached limb from an ancient being just to name a few Also if you ever want to try out any of these weapons and their stances let me know
on the off chance this has been mentioned allready i apologise. the reason for the offshoot at the end of the darksword is for the attachment point on the dark dagger, as there is a combined weapon of those two.
The ghoulsaw is actually as stupid as you likely think it is. This thing is used by Grineer ghouls, which are literally degenerative clones buried alive to crawl out when someone gets too close to them. You literally get this thing by stealing it off a clone zombie's corpse, really.
Not sure if you have already, but you should have a look at the Glaives in the game. Either the people at DE don't know what a Glaive is, or I don't know what a Glaive is, but something here is definitely weird
The Masseter is basically a Kanabo-blender with its spinning stuff because the Warframe it was designed for has a vore Oni theme. Also the fact you could tell it spins just from looking at a still image tells me the design works in terms of instantly expressing what it does.
2:39 the angled pommel of the dark dagger is so it can be attached (and removed from) the accompanying pommel of its larger twin, the dark sword. together they form the dark split sword and can be either dual weilded with the sword in one hand and the dagger in the other, or attached at the pommels as if they were a double ended greatsword.
Great video! The thing with the Masseter is that the game has, to an extent, only a few weapon classes, so you end up with fringe cases. Masseter's use is that of a great club (most likely based on the Japanese kanabo judging by its being the signature weapon of the warframe Grendel, who has an oni theme), but there is no great club weapon group so they have to put it in the next closest group. Hope that helps!
So Veteran player here. There are some Primes he missed like Pangolin Prime and Destreza Prime. But yeah not too bad on your verdicts. Warframe has a plethora of melee weapons. I would advise looking at Gunblades, dual swords and Sword & Shields.
It's hard to see, but the Anku's blade swings out on its mounts when in use. It does actually work like a scythe, just doesn't look like it in its codex image.
The Anku's blade flips up when to pull it out in combat. Something else of note: the thing you see in the nikana picture is in fact the sheath. And when you use the 'Blind Justice' reverse grip stance (not sure if it's just that one), both the sword and the sheath are used to block. With nami skyla, the dagger is actually held in the right hand and the sword is held in the left. This leads me to believe that the sword is actually for parrying in the dagger is for thrusting.
There are actual gunblades that were used, not really sure why though... He has a tiktok about gunblades but hasn't mentioned warframe ones in it I think
I did a little bit of digging through the comments, and I couldn't find anyone mentioning this so I thought I would: the Dark Sword is 1/2 of a larger weapon, combining with the Dark Dagger to make the Dark Split-sword. The unique part about the weapon is that depending on the stance mod you equipped, the split sword will either function as a Greatsword or a sword and Dagger. The slant at the bottom of the hilt is where the two weapons connect to each other
Warframe Veteran here. I'm honestly surprised you didn't touch the Quassus or similar Warfans (no pun intended) in Warframe. There's also only one Sai-type weapon, the Okina. There's an UNGODLY amount of melee weapons you could openly talk about, and most Warframe fans would laugh right alongside you. Also, the Karyst Prime is just......I dunno. There's no physical way it should be able to pierce into someone's skull with how the blade is angled. Guarantee you that if you do a review of each melee weapon, the vid would be at least 30-50 minutes long, depending how long you stayed on each weapon. There's just SOOOOOO many, it's ridiculous
Yes, the Nikana/Dragon Nikana art is of the sword partially drawn from the saya. The Anku is also weird, the blade springs upward, exposing a cutting edge, if you watch the attack animations. The art shows it in the folded rest position.
The dark sword bottom part is ment to combine with the dark dagger to use as the dark great sword. It can be split from that joint to dual wield the sword and dagger. So the dark sword was made to be essentially half of a weapon.
I'd like to see your opinion on some of the Tenngoen skins for weapons. My person favorites are the Rapier Ferita skin, the Longsword Insidia skin and the Two-handed Nikana Arashi skin.
All nikanas are a katana of a sorts and a sheath. Using the weapon thumbnail images are hard to get a good visual of Nikanas and you may require a picture from jn game or the wiki to see the blade itself
For the Anku the blade part actually unfolds like a scythe that you'd see depicted with the grim reaper. Plus, the Nikana weapons show the blade win the sheathe.The Halikar and other glaive-type weapons are basically magic boomerangs. IIRC the Masseter does indeed spin. Note: I edited the comment as I watched the video, and tbh I'm a bit surprised he did a bunch of melee weapons and then the Kunai lol
some awnsers to som of the things in your vid. on the anku it can fold out so that is why it looks a bit wierd. the dark sword wierd bit is for its dual swords form where it can combine with the dark dagger. yes the nikana are in the sheath in the image.
this was great! thank you for not titling this "weapons expert REACTS to warframe weapons!!!!!". i hope you've acquired a real close-up mic since this video :)
The fang are still stilettos I believe going by your definition. They have no edge, they're essentially just pointy sticks. Correct me if I'm wrong because I am by no means an expert at all.
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To add to the ghoul saws already insane look. You can ride it like a skateboard as part of its meele combo
YOU CAN WHAT
@@friccle_ Every melee weapon nowdays has a forward dash move for engaging.
You jump on that motherfucker, saw through the ground which magically propells you forward a short distance dealing damage and at the end of the distance you slam that shit into the ground.
It's the most useless attack cus it has no range, but im too busy RIDING MY FUCKING SAW TO HEAR ABOUT EFFICIENCY!
But it doesn't go very far
Edit: nvm, someone else mentioned it
@@friccle_ Oh right, that's not just a table saw being called a weapon. That thing is as big enough to probably be twice your Warframe's weight. If you held on to the top from your hip, the saw would probably reach down past your knee.
@@aronsvanlaugsson5338 TELL ME WHICH INPUTS THESE ARE, I'M GONNA SKATE THROUGH STEELPATH LIKE I'M PLAYING A BUFFED YARELI
Edit: I did some tedting with the ghoulsaw and got it to go quite q decent distance with the glide combo
quick note, the Anku will actually open up into a full scythe when held in your hand. (which is probably worse for it)
Also the image for nikana(s) is the sword and sheath
Glad you wrote all that so i didnt have to
Nikana is like the skiajati in that it has a scabbard
but once it opens up it actually attaches the blade to the grip so that the 3 links only serve as an additional attachment in the "open mode"
@@flashtiger15 Well the skiajati is a nikana style weapon, so that checks out
You do attack with the Anku like it's a giant spike instead of trying to cut with it.
The Reaper Prime, Hate and I don't remember what other scythe there is except for the Anku and Ether Reaper all fall for the same extremely impractical "war-scythe" trope, while at the very least you aren't expected to hit with the inner edge with those exceptions.
If you think the design of the ghoulsaw is silly, you should watch it in action
Also, the nikana is a picture of the sheath and the sword. The sword, if I remember correctly, looks like a very standard katana ( I could be mistaken)
Yeah, all four(?) Nikanas I can think of have very plane blades, and the only one with any weird design elements is the Skiajati, but that's just some ornamentation on the handle.
Yep the only nikana that doesnt include the sheet in its art is zaws. And ya they are are just pretty standard katanna
@@kronos548 I forgot zaws exist lmao
@@anidiot9831 i have my nikana for ash named "nothing personal kid" i just use it for exodia contagion
The Nikana has very ineffective guard, though
Ah! You've got my attention! As a veteran Warframe player: Most of our melee weapons definitely are form over function. However to address a few weapons you questioned, not from the perspective of it being used by Warframes.
All freaking rapiers: Agreed, they aren't practical in the slightest. There's legitimately no reason besides it looks cool to the average person.
Karyst: I'm not sure at all why they made the Karyst Prime the way it is but I feel like you should see how big it actually is in game. The thing is classified as a dagger but is large enough to probably count as a short sword - in game it actually has the longest reach of any dagger, bringing it to actually stand near the long sword class. That all only makes the design choice weirder to look at.
Kreska: Not even gonna bother spelling it right since that weapon doesn't even weapon right. When you brought that up and said "I don't know how the kreska works" I said to myself out loud "Neither do we" but for a serious answer, I would imagine it's supposed to be a form of multi tool? The main purpose is probably to use for breaking apart ice and gathering samples, especially since it somehow lights on fire. Don't get me wrong, it probably sucks at all those jobs but it's supposed to look cool. Enemies in game just swing it around, I think it's classed as an axe?
Ghoul Saw: Laugh at it. It was a joke that people memed until eventually wanting it for real. The thing is actually really awful as a weapon but that's definitely for the stats rather than accuracy to real life. The only moveset it has involves swinging it around and primarily holding it out forwards and trying to cut through enemies. It's ungodly stupid to use but also fun since you can ride it a tiny bit.
Venka: Eh. Claws look cool. I don't expect them to work very well, though judging by the look of Venka, it actually might be able to cut your hand very easy if you don't wear thick gloves, never a problem for warframes with their metal skin but is a problem for us humans with our regular skin.
Overall, nice video! I'm surprised you didn't touch on a gunblade or two in it, figured the Redeemer wouldn't have been the only one you'd think was weird.
There's a Steel Path build for the Ghoulsaw that is just extremely inconvenient. Requires you to basically spam attacks to proc guaranteed slash in enemies and just let the slash procs tick enemies down.
You forgot to tell him that the first weapon he looked at UNFOLDS she you're using it cause when you're not using it, it folds down to make easier to carry
The ghoulsaw actually isn't even that horrible now that they buffed the stance.
Great points!
And thank you for so many thoughtful comments!
@@4_xk I named my ghoul saw "the stihl path" and painted it orange
Some useful info on the mechanisms behind how a warframe is constructed from a huge lore nerd, which could provide some explanation for any future analysis of weapons, hopefully without spoiling anything. A lot of this information becomes available from "The Second Dream" to "The Sacrifice", though other elements that are not specifically stated are heavily implied based on either mechanics, quotes, or other lore tidbits. Anyone reading, let me know if I got anything wrong, as it's helpful to know!:
The chassis of a warframe is a mostly synthetic mesh comprised of small metal particulate, akin to iron filings but on the scale of nanometers. These particles bind together through an unknown mechanism to create a flexible but highly resilient "skin", explaining how holding a blade, such as that of the Kunai, would cause surprisingly little damage. This mesh is also regenerative, and is capable of hardening or softening at will/altering chemical properties via the systems, meaning it is equally resistant to all forms of potential harm, protecting the internal components.
Below this skin is a form of biomechanical muscular system formed from mostly organic tissue (which is why they can bleed). This tissue is reinforced by a mycelium type network of techno-organic cells, blostering strength and damage resistance (this is where the skin is theoretically replenished) while also being riddled with circuitry designed to convert void energy from an Orokin cell array into a variety of useful forms. These cells on their own cannot generate a large amount of power (only enough for basic movement, vision and life support), but through some form of dimensional engineering they have an uplink to a much larger power source hidden within a mostly infested moon in an alternate reality. This power is controlled via the mind of the user using a system known as a Somatic Link to manifest the abilities seen ingame, though with various subroutines that assist in combat such as supercharging muscles in order to allow for greatly accelerated motion, reflexes and strength, or the ability to overclock all systems a few times before needing repairs in order to come back from the brink of death, while also providing a passive void shield in most cases. This barrier can detect incoming fire or attacks of any kind in order to absorb all directed energy, though this puts the system under stress, and after enough punishment the shield will break completely for a period of time until the Warframe is no longer under fire. On breaking, the Shield will briefly surge with power to absorb all energy from the last attack, in a last ditch effort to protect the frame, and after a period of time will begin recharging. Shields are however susceptible to electromagnetic interference and have a curious interaction with bladed weapons. If a blade strikes the shield with force enough to split it, it will take much longer to recharge, as the shield itself will "bleed" for a period of time, with the wound eventually transferring to the Warframe if the damage cannot be repaired in time. As they are not fast moving projectiles or substances with obvious/preventable energy transfer; toxins, extreme temperature drops, magnetic interferences, instances of irradiation, corrosion or viral infection, and electrocution can all easily bypass shielding, even if the attack itself cannot. Toxins are particularly proficient, as the Warframes themselves allow for air flow through the mesh skin, meaning any poisons that enter the device will cause damage even if the shield is fully restored. Any other form of incoming damage is prevented, however.
Internal damage to electrical components or muscular systems will not be repaired, unfortunately, and must be maintained between combat situations by an external device, often contained onboard the orbiter of the Tenno in question.
Finally, below all of these sensitive systems, biomechanical devices and metallic shielding, an endoskeleton is present, comprised of a much more tightly bound form of the epidermal tissue, appearing akin to a humanoid skeleton of solid metal, with a composition similar to that of animal bone, though heavily reinforced by an intelligent nanoswarm that provides a contact point between the rest of the Warframe and the neuroptic components within the helmet, which translate user thoughts into actionable commands via a transference bolt connected to a blend of nervous tissue and semi-intelligent nanomachines that interface with both the skeleton and mycelium network.
Warframes are beyond a shadow of a doubt an extremely effective combat platform, providing the user with an excess of strength, reflexive capabilities and resilience to damage, all the while enabling them to make use of interdimensional physics to manifest ungodly abilities. With all of this, it's no real wonder why a single Tenno threat is often met with an entire enemy army, who all subsequently get creamed hard enough that all that's left is little more than a large red stain. Merge that with an absolutely absurd selection of weapons that no human could reasonably use and enough technology to both take on an entire empire and win, and you have yourself a fully armed Tenno. Hopefully this explains how some of these tools are used in the methods they are (e.g. the Venka risking breaking bone or the Kunai slicing the hand to ribbons), or even how it's physically possible for the Tenno to use them (Such as the Galatine Prime or the Grattler), as in universe, effectively nobody else comes even close to what we can do
What’s the source of all this, particularly the mycelium-like connection part? Is this mostly a mix of extrapolation from in-game mechanics and existing lore or a lot of speculation?
You might wanna doublespace for better readability.
@@eyywannn8601 Warframes are explicitly made from technocyte, and technocyte functions very similarly to fungal mycelium.
@@Nukesnipe You mean in that they use spores to propagate?
@@eyywannn8601 That's a yup on the spores - infestation spreads mainly through that. It's like a swarm of semi-synthetic nanobots that "evolves" everything it touches. In the case of the Warframes, it was engineered specifically to help work with them
@@eyywannn8601 Most of that can be found in game (e.g. Xaku's 4 exposes the internal skeleton, and Valkyr had her chassis partly removed, exposing what looks to be orange polymer armour beneath), though some is speculation, such as with the Orokin cells, as whilst almost everything points to it in lore, design, and mechanics - it's not explicitly stated or shown
Also agreed lol
I don't know if you know, but the rapier "Destreza" is a reference to the term for the spanish fencing art known as "La Verdadera Destreza" or "the true skill"
Destreza actually means dexterity
@@LuLuLuLuLuLuLuLuLuLuLu It translates to both, as well as artfulness.
Did not know this
@@LuLuLuLuLuLuLuLuLuLuLu depends on the context and the version of Spanish you speak
@@jonwicked7031 what how
God, the ghoulsaw is hilarious. I love it so much. Can you believe the community has heen asking for it for like 3 years, and it was only added recently?
And that its absolute garbo, so much so its not even possible to use it at most places anymore with the new eximi
I'm sure it's been said by now, but the "Thing with the dragon nikana"
That big red bit is actually the sheath. And If I remember right, the blade part of Anku like.. pops up a bit when unsheathed.
All Nikana's are shown with their sheath, and most of their beginning attacks start with Iai style slashes, you almost never hold them out at the ready and once you stop swinging your character automatically sheaths the sword again. There's also a stance mod that primarily consists of quick bashes with the hilt while holding the sword by the sheath.
Yeah the ghoulsaw is meant to be silly, its an mf chainsaw. It's one of those weapons that the devs put in cuz we wanted it lmao.
I love the Ghoulsaw cause it's just running at people with a big cement saw. And sometimes riding it like a unicycle.
I know Masseter uses "Great sword" stances but it functions more like a cudgel. It also does spin, which is beautifully brutal.
I like to think that Grendel found a crankshaft to a Ford 150 and thought "Grineer meat too tough, this make better."
in one of warframe's trailer you actually see excalibur holding a kunai in reverse grip with his index finger on the ring, so yeah that's exactly how they are used XD
How do we throw them though. Also at a rate of 5 a second
@@incog0956 a mix of otherworldly dexterity and digitalisation technologoy.
Wait till he finds out you can ride the Ghoul saw
I've been playing Warframe for years and the Ghoulsaw is added not that long ago. And yeah, I agree, it looks pretty weird to be used as a weapon. Even in game I wouldn't recommend using this weapon. To be honest, using a dagger is more effective than using a ghoulsaw
It's a miter saw. More like something that should be in Dead By Daylight.
To be fair, it was made to be used by ghouls, and Vay Hek is the one who thought it up, so..
It’s definitely designed to be a cutting tool first, weapon second.
BUT ITS A FUCKIN SAW!
@@Furi_S_Poi I know, it sounds and look awesome. But as someone who wields into the battlefield, I can say that it is not as effective as using a dagger. The reason being in Warframe we have a mod stance that allowed us to use dagger to kill faster and move faster from one point to another
His laugh sounds like a completely different person laughing and I love it XD
"Finger the guard" was how I escaped jail
lmao
Agreed. The Ghoulsaw is... that's just a hack-n-slash zombie throwback. Nothing more.
The weird part of the bottom of the dark sword is where the dark Dagger attaches. You need to look at the dark split sword to see the whole picture.
Also the Kuni are direct replica of there real world counter part. They have made them like that for hundreds of years and have been used in actual combat.
The Halikar is essentially a rocket powered piece of scrap metal that flies back to your hand after you throw it at people.
As someone who loves weapons and Warframe the extra part of the dark dagger is so that you can attach a dark sword to it making the dual dark dagger which can be used as dual daggers or a big sword... With the nikana it's in the shesh in the image and they are used in the attack combos to smack or slam the enemy and in the melee guard animation it's used to block and support the main blade. kreska is also a scythe both sides of the blade are sharp think of it as a thick dual sided exacto blade.... Ghoulsaw is a meme in it's self it's been asked for for year because a enemy ig has it you also ride on it for a few seconds during the combo... Want some odd things look up the jet kusar, war and broken war, glave, and garas glass hammer I forgot what it's called....
Sheath* need to not make comments while sleep deprived
There are three things I want to talk about :
1) The curve at the bottom of the Dark Sword can also serves as a connection for the is dual-bladed variant
2) All images of nikanas (or katanas) in the game show the weapon and its sheath
3) And yeah, iirc the blade of the Masseteer is supposed to spin
Yeah its stated to be like a grinder and it's themed after Grendel. Certain weapons are designed after various warframes and get special bonuses if used in a matching set.
@@mickyflint Kind of like Revenant and the Tatsu
Uhh the blade on the Anku actually springs up when you draw it for a more classic "scythe" look
--and the bit on the handle is a lever that you squeeze when you draw it, to extend the blade. Seems like that would make your hand tired pretty fast, but I am not a cyborg zombie ninja.
the ghoulsaw gets even better when you start to ride it and throw the saw like a boomerang...
You did your take on the Tatsu, but what about the other variant of the "Two-Handed Nikana" weapons, The Pennant?
Quick note on the Fang: Their in-game design doesn't have a cutting edge; just a narrowed edge of the "blade" portion of the weapons possibly to make a directional serration on exit rather than to actually slice in a swing. The weapon itself also primarily has puncture damage with a small amount of slash
And the prime, that unlike the regular is not a circular spike shaped pointer but an actual BLADE used to not deal slash damage, only puncture and impact and was considered worse than its regular variant for the first 6 years of the game
How about Tenet Livia, the laser two-handed nikana
@@tinycervid7679 if your nikana is laser, theres very little sense in making it 2 handed, theres 0 weight or mass to justify using such a weapon in 2 hands and even than, its likely the powersupply that provides weight and due to the immaterial nature of the blade you cant even force leverage with it. Its not the dumbest weapon design by far, but its D tier
I would like to see your perspective on how these weapons would feel to a being that can't physically feel uncomfortable grip and stuff like that. Because personally: seeing it from the perspective of a warframe that doesn't really have issues with grip or stuff like that makes all these weapons rely more on if they could do their jobs
What are you talking about?!?! How can Marcus explain how a weapon feels without feeling the grip? You know what oxymoron means (its not an insult). its like asking him to explain how it would feel to fly like a dragonfly!!
There is NO seperation between "uncomfortable grip" and normal sense of touch. And a full sense of touch is ALWAYS essential to handling and accurately manipulating ANY object weapon or otherwise. This is not hard to comprehend m8. Image trying to eat your dinner with a knife and fork and anesthetize hands ............ wouldn't work out too well would it.
Also what makes you think WF cannot feel uncomfortable grip if anything a meta-human melee killing machine would be equipted with hugely heightened sense of touch which would assist greatly in weapon handling ..... just ask Marcus which would be better for a melee dedicated creature lower sense of touch or much higher sense of touch, answer is obvious the anesthetised dinner example tells you all you need to know.
Another thing i think you don't get is that a badly balanced, and thus unwieldy weapon cannot "do its job" as well as one that is balanced and weighted correctly. Options would be use a correctly balance/weighted weapon and operate at 100% combat effectiveness or use a weapon not balance/weighted and deliberately reduce your own combat effectiveness ..... doh
Many weapons in WF are just stupidly designed as practical weapons, get used to the fact fantasy games often add over designed nonsense, talking added nonsense to try and make sense of then is just silly.
@@Blowfeld20k I think the request is to simply give an explanation on the potential effectiveness of the weapons assuming that balance etc, isn’t a factor, pretty sure it’s kinda obvious that this is a request based around the hypothetical, I.e. disregarding realism to describe the theoretical efficacy of a weapon
@@Blowfeld20k yes I know what an oxymoron is. You can definitely look at a weapon that has a spike in the handle and say "hey yeah everything else about this sword is good but that spike in the handle will mess up everything." I just wanna see his perspective if there was hypothetically no issues with grip, balance, and all the other things that can make or break a weapon for a human. Like the Cassowar is a great example of what I'd like to see his perspective on. Since warframes can't be hurt by their own weapons nor feel discomfort or have any grip issues, I want to see from that perspective if it would feasibly be an advantage to use a weapon like that.
@@Blowfeld20k basically what the guy is asking I think is for the channel to judge it based on the Watsonian perspective, that is, will it work in the context it was put in (if a robotic killing machine with few human limitations used it)
Great points, I always like your vids.
Sidenote: I'm pretty the Twin Basolk put out fire from the grey blade-looking section, so they're not really meant for cutting.
The anku when used actually folds the blade out into a more typical scythe appearance and does puncture damage so I think the idea is similar to that of the back of a warhammer having an armour piercing spike
You sir are clearly not human. No human can actually remember the Tonbo and Kreska exist. They are so forgettable that they are basically self keeping secrets.
I'd love to see opinions on the Zaw components and how they all fit together
I exclusively use my zaw for Exodia Contagion and don’t think it could even be taken seriously as a traditional melee
He's not actually playing it, he's looking in the codex.
@@taylorharper1251 zaws are good cheap statsticks if you don't wanna spend too much on rivens or vaulted stuff
Yes, rapier with a polearm handle. Seems legit
@@incog0956 I mean they’re alright, but exodia is what sets them apart as an actual good weapon to have.
I really like listening to your voice, its really chill love the vids.
Men it gets even better when you watch the video
Waving his arms around like a crazy person
Marcus is amused by tactical buzz saw
The most well designed weapon in warframe is the MIGHTY SEER
It pales in comparison to the god of a weapon that is the Stug
@@TheLostDestroyer begone heretic!
Ah yes, THE MIGHTY SEER, the most powerful melee weapon tied with the Glaive Prime!
thank you for making a full video of warframe!!
Thanks for this! I‘ve been playing warframe for over a year now and this was a really cool reaction/review
Paracesis would be one that would be fun to do a deep dive into. lore wise It is known as the Sentient slayer. And Is crafted using the Galatine (A sword to build a sword)
Isn't galatine used just cause it was the first tenno heavy blade so it got "upgraded" before the old war?
@@incog0956 nah its used as a core. We melted bunch of Ducats and shape it into blade
My favourite part about grineer weapons is that so many are just “but what if we put a rocket in it”
Someone may have already mentioned it, but the Masseter's design is based on a kanabō, keeping in line with Grendel (it's wielder)'s Oni stylings. As to why it's a greatsword, the in-game class is "Heavy Blade", which is the generic title for all big swords, axes, and anything else using those mechanics.
The Halikar basically does what it says - in addition to smacking people around with it in your hand, you can charge it up to throw it, causing it to bounce around, smash into enemies, and occasionally disarm them. It's good fun!
Wait isn't grendel a summo wrestler? his noble animation is giving me those vibes
There's also the fact that the pieces do indeed rotate to grind things up
@@incog0956 an oni sumo wresling kirby, warframe loves mixed themes so one frame may have many going around, like Yareli being useless and also having the trash part in there
The Anku looks like a weird weapon from some other class but it is actually a scythe, its codex/arsenal icon just shows the blade collapsed. The tree bars holding the blade on swivel slightly when you attack in the game and it opens up to look more like a proper scythe.
Yes, the Codex icon for the Nikana, Dragon Nikana, and Nikana Prime all show the sword and the sheath. You need to actually use them in game to see what they look like.
Yes, Karyst is directly inspired from the Kris dagger, both being wavy daggers with damascus pattern (at least the regular Karyst).
I agree Karyst Prime just look straight up weird lmao, but it has grown on me overtime
For someone who has over 500 hours on warframe I have been WAITING for this video top teir good stuff man
Small tidbits about the Anku and the Dark Sword. The three black bars that the Anku's blade sits on are actually movable parts, which slide it backwards into the position of a traditional scythe. The offshoot segment on the Dark Sword is actually a connection port, where the smaller-but-otherwise-identical-looking Dark Dagger can be placed on.
Quick tip, DE doesn’t understand the difference between polearm and staff, blunt polearms are categorized as staves while bladed staves are categorized as polearms.
Weird.
@@MarcusVance yep, they are good at making art and gameplay, not researching weapon history. They just stick things together how they think they should work.
This is especially noticeable with the Prime Vault change coming tomorrow…
@@MarcusVance also, I own every weapon and stance in the game, if you’d like I can hit you with discord screen share to demonstrate the entire weapons roster and display all their mechanical features and answer any questions for your viewing pleasure.
I appreciate it!
@@MarcusVance do you have a discord server or anything? I’ll pop right over
The Ghoulsaw is the best most glorious weapon in the game I even married it
Bruh what about galatine prime you pineapple
@@tamatomo99 I divorced galatine prime to marry Ghoulsaw
I forget of the MIGHTY SEER
I would love to see your take on the infested melee series of weapons in general. I’m a big infested player myself with a Nidus as my main
Two I want to put my two cents on. The Halikar has little jets in the back of the head and the bottom of the handle to help it spin, how it's accurate I couldn't tell you. And the Masseter based on what it's meant to be made of, 0robably weighs at least 50-90 pounds and is just a pissed off blunt object.
If you think some of the weapons are silly, the whole infested arsenal is just what. Like for example bubonico, its a full auto shotgun, with a mortar built in, that also engulfs your entire arm.
Or Pox. Where we just throw I don't wanna talk about it at the enemy
My only discussion would be that the Anku and Masseter aren't a scythe and greatsword, true, but are just classified as them because they use the same move sets. Like the massseter is basically a club with how slow it spins, but it's easier to group that under great sword than a hammer or make a new category for a club weapon.
If you ever think that some weapons in that game are silly, just look at kronen. You will forget about everything else.
Or frosts favourite: sibear, literally chunk of ice inside a cage on a stick
I love how absolutely ridiculous the Ghoul Saw is, I need it
Surprised you didn't bring up our lovely biohorror deathsticks, the stupid whips we have (like the Atterax, a whip designed by the 'Will It Blend' guys), the Tonfas (telios boltace meta made me think I had carpel tunnel for a week and I never used the fucking things), and perhaps the most memeworthy melee weapon.
*The Zenistar.*
Also, the Twin Ballsack (Baslok) are supposed to be constantly ON FIRE.
And in final, the Tenet Agendus is a Shield and Hammer. Its heavy attack fires an Arca Plasmor blast by slamming the shield into the ground. Make of that what you will.
For the factor of durability, keep in mind that there are some alloys and/or metals that the warframe universe has that might be used to support what may look like fragile equipment
Do a part 2, do it, I love this so much
The Ghoulsaw is the most troll melee they have added to the game. Despite it being very lack luster,it is still fun
I’m in love with this video.
I would actually be interested to see your reaction to these weapons and more actually being used in game and how realistic their use is, as a Warframe player I will say that a lot of weapons are weird but a few look and act like real world weapons.
I am sure if you called on your community there would be multiple Warframe players willing to get you some clips. Myself included
Great video!
The ankus blade change position whenever you use it in a mission to look like an actual scythe and all nikanas are in their sheath in the codex
If i remember correctly the tenet grigori wasnt designed to be a weapon, instead its use in WF lore was to clean off ateroid debris from ships.
Long-time Warframe veteran here. This oughta be good, because Warframe is a universe where "form over function" is tattooed onto both hands of every blacksmith. The weapons here are WILD, and wildly impractical above all else.
*Anku:* this scythe is actually _collapsible._ Those three flimsy attachment points? They're _joints._
*Cassowar:* this god-damn thing is 8 feet long and those two heads are a good four inches thick each, yet it's somehow an incredibly fast weapon. I'm talking ten hits a second with this thing, it's insane.
*Ceramic dagger:* A very early weapon in Warframe's history, it's using older design principles of the Cronus and Skana short swords. Ceramic Dagger was mediocre even on launch and is terrible now, it's kind of uninteresting to talk about.
*Dark Sword: this is actually a scaled-up dagger. Yes, they took the Dark Dagger, stretched it out to twice the size, drilled two holes into the crossguard, and called it a sword.
*Destreza:* You wanna know how out-there they took "form over function" with this thing? They hired a calligraphy artist to create a written language for the fictional Orokin Empire. Then they took his design for the Orokin letter "J," put a cutting edge on it, and viola you have the Destreza.
*Dragon Nikana:* That's a scabbard. The Nikana is halfway out of its scabbard. You can see a recurring motif with the Nikana, where the crossguard is actually a flared-out part of the blade rather than a separate piece of metal.
*Dual Kamas:* I like the "blood-drip notch" on these things, a rare practical design from Warframe.
*Dual Raza:* Oh wow, THESE things. You wanna know what these are? You won't believe me. These are pistol magazines. Yes, these are PISTOL MAGAZINES with handles welded onto them. That's what those spikey things on the cutting edges are, they're pistol rounds. You are hitting people with BULLETS
*Ether Reaper:* This thing is supposed to be an energy blade, but the 3D texture messed up and it looks like it's metal instead of translucent energy.
*Fang:* I wish I had something to say about these. They seem to be made of scales.
*Gazal Machete:* OK funny story about this thing, It's absolutely terrible in-game, slow and weak... and it's still the strongest machete by a wide margin. It's honestly kind of sad.
*Ghoulsaw:* I have nothing to add to your commentary. Perfection.
*Guandao:* This weapon was added into the game (alongside two playable characters) specifically to promote the developer's acquisition by a Chinese publisher.
*Halikar:* We have no idea how it works either. It belongs to the "Throwing Glaive" class (actually chakrams) but that doesn't help much at all. In game mechanics it has a unique mechanic to knock guns out of your hand, and it's implied in the lore to double as a _dog toy._ I'm not making that up.
*Karyst:* Not much to add, besides this dagger has innate poison damage. Pretty useful for a dagger.
*Kestrel:* This is the Halikar's oft-forgotten sister. Yes, this boomerang counts as a chakram.
*Kreska:* The official concept art of this thing states it would be a practical weapon because it has a "carabiner to transport it easily." Yes, that absolutely helps and makes this a practical hand-to-hand weapon, I agree.
*Masseter:* Calling it a "greatsword" was just to help the in-game animations. It's actually a Japanese kanabo, crossed with a truck's drivetrain. It does indeed spin rapidly in-game.
*Nami Skyla/Solo:* Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum! These are the signature weapons of the character Hydroid, a space pirate. One of his in-game skins even gives him Captain Morgan's coat.
*Ninkondi:* These things are radioactive. So is the Dark Sword by the way, I left that out earlier. But yeah, radioactive nunchaku, because why not? It's Warframe.
*Orthos Prime:* In the lore, this polearm is made of _pure rubidium._ And if you know your chemistry right now, "what the fuck?!" is indeed the appropriate response.
*Pangolin Sword:* This uses the same texture as the Fang, which explains the scales.
*Tatsu:* They hyped this thing up for years before finally releasing it. What did they do to make up for the long wait? This thing collects souls and _shoots them back out_ at more enemies.
*Tenet Grigori:* This thing comes from a special line of Tenet weapons. Their gimmick is they can fold up into briefcases. You know, so you can whip them out in the courtroom when you're being sued for insider trading.
*Tipedo:* For some reason this thing counts as a quarterstaff, not a polearm. Unless you reforge it into the Lesion weapon, which is a polearm even though it has the same shape. Go figure.
*Tonbo:* My personal favorite, though I still wanna know why it has heatsinks.
*Twin Basolk:* Remember that meme of the red-hot 1,000 degree knife? The Basolk do the same thing, the cutting edges heat up and catch targets on fire.
*Venka:* These things have a unique holster animation where they literally just shrink. The devs gave up on lore reasons solely to complete the Wolverine homage.
*Kunai:* Sadly these can't be used as melee weapons. In terms of game code, they count as a semi-automatic pistol, with a ten-round magazine. Yeah, imagine holding ten of these in your hands and trying to throw them one at a time
Thanks for coming along with this ride through Warframe's history with us!
One of my favorite parts about warframe, as a long time vet of the game, is how this game can go from regular gun, bow, pistol, and melee designs to a a rifle that that uses the souls of enemies you killed with it to make a soul grenade, a bow that launches small thermo nuclear missiles, a pistol that summons an ethereal version of itself, and a sword that's a detached limb from an ancient being just to name a few
Also if you ever want to try out any of these weapons and their stances let me know
I dunno, even with the comfiest thrusting sword I wouldn't take a chance against someone with a light enough stone cutter to be wielded.
They're wielded in the game by genetically modified supersoldiers and what are basically super strong robots. I wouldn't call the ghoulsaw "light" lol
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on the off chance this has been mentioned allready i apologise.
the reason for the offshoot at the end of the darksword is for the attachment point on the dark dagger, as there is a combined weapon of those two.
The image you showed of the dragon nakana was of sword and sheath just partially removed
Nobody's understands how halikar works
even the dev think its a hilarious weapon(ghoulsaw), they just add it ingame for the hell of it.
Love the names you gave each chapter/video segment
Thank you for finally releasing this
The ghoulsaw is actually as stupid as you likely think it is. This thing is used by Grineer ghouls, which are literally degenerative clones buried alive to crawl out when someone gets too close to them. You literally get this thing by stealing it off a clone zombie's corpse, really.
Cuts? Don't you mean, Slash?
Thrust? Don't you mean Puncture?
Not sure if you have already, but you should have a look at the Glaives in the game. Either the people at DE don't know what a Glaive is, or I don't know what a Glaive is, but something here is definitely weird
Comparing prime vetiants to normal ones would be a cool video
The Masseter is basically a Kanabo-blender with its spinning stuff because the Warframe it was designed for has a vore Oni theme. Also the fact you could tell it spins just from looking at a still image tells me the design works in terms of instantly expressing what it does.
2:39 the angled pommel of the dark dagger is so it can be attached (and removed from) the accompanying pommel of its larger twin, the dark sword. together they form the dark split sword and can be either dual weilded with the sword in one hand and the dagger in the other, or attached at the pommels as if they were a double ended greatsword.
Would love to see more of Warframe's weapons.
Great video! The thing with the Masseter is that the game has, to an extent, only a few weapon classes, so you end up with fringe cases. Masseter's use is that of a great club (most likely based on the Japanese kanabo judging by its being the signature weapon of the warframe Grendel, who has an oni theme), but there is no great club weapon group so they have to put it in the next closest group. Hope that helps!
So Veteran player here.
There are some Primes he missed like Pangolin Prime and Destreza Prime. But yeah not too bad on your verdicts. Warframe has a plethora of melee weapons. I would advise looking at Gunblades, dual swords and Sword & Shields.
Seems like a part 2 is in order.
It's hard to see, but the Anku's blade swings out on its mounts when in use. It does actually work like a scythe, just doesn't look like it in its codex image.
The Anku's blade flips up when to pull it out in combat.
Something else of note: the thing you see in the nikana picture is in fact the sheath. And when you use the 'Blind Justice' reverse grip stance (not sure if it's just that one), both the sword and the sheath are used to block.
With nami skyla, the dagger is actually held in the right hand and the sword is held in the left. This leads me to believe that the sword is actually for parrying in the dagger is for thrusting.
If we're gonna talk about outlandish appearances, we need to talk about Reaper Prime
He's pretty funny I wouldn't wanna be fighting him
Redeemer. I don’t think it’s at all good as a irl weapon, but when it first came out it was actually kinda good.
There are actual gunblades that were used, not really sure why though...
He has a tiktok about gunblades but hasn't mentioned warframe ones in it I think
I did a little bit of digging through the comments, and I couldn't find anyone mentioning this so I thought I would: the Dark Sword is 1/2 of a larger weapon, combining with the Dark Dagger to make the Dark Split-sword. The unique part about the weapon is that depending on the stance mod you equipped, the split sword will either function as a Greatsword or a sword and Dagger. The slant at the bottom of the hilt is where the two weapons connect to each other
3:09 You’re not allowed to finger the guard. She’s on duty
Warframe Veteran here. I'm honestly surprised you didn't touch the Quassus or similar Warfans (no pun intended) in Warframe. There's also only one Sai-type weapon, the Okina. There's an UNGODLY amount of melee weapons you could openly talk about, and most Warframe fans would laugh right alongside you. Also, the Karyst Prime is just......I dunno. There's no physical way it should be able to pierce into someone's skull with how the blade is angled. Guarantee you that if you do a review of each melee weapon, the vid would be at least 30-50 minutes long, depending how long you stayed on each weapon. There's just SOOOOOO many, it's ridiculous
Love the Ghoulsaw. Its big, it rips, its big.
Thats all i need in this game.
You should look at the melee stances
Really surprised you didn’t go over the ripkas
I would like to see what do you think about: Jat Kittag, Mios, Gunsen and Kuva Shildeg
Yes, the Nikana/Dragon Nikana art is of the sword partially drawn from the saya.
The Anku is also weird, the blade springs upward, exposing a cutting edge, if you watch the attack animations. The art shows it in the folded rest position.
I don't recall ever seeing you laugh so hard, but i ain't complaining...
The dark sword bottom part is ment to combine with the dark dagger to use as the dark great sword. It can be split from that joint to dual wield the sword and dagger. So the dark sword was made to be essentially half of a weapon.
I'd like to see your opinion on some of the Tenngoen skins for weapons. My person favorites are the Rapier Ferita skin, the Longsword Insidia skin and the Two-handed Nikana Arashi skin.
All nikanas are a katana of a sorts and a sheath. Using the weapon thumbnail images are hard to get a good visual of Nikanas and you may require a picture from jn game or the wiki to see the blade itself
For the Anku the blade part actually unfolds like a scythe that you'd see depicted with the grim reaper. Plus, the Nikana weapons show the blade win the sheathe.The Halikar and other glaive-type weapons are basically magic boomerangs. IIRC the Masseter does indeed spin. Note: I edited the comment as I watched the video, and tbh I'm a bit surprised he did a bunch of melee weapons and then the Kunai lol
some awnsers to som of the things in your vid. on the anku it can fold out so that is why it looks a bit wierd. the dark sword wierd bit is for its dual swords form where it can combine with the dark dagger. yes the nikana are in the sheath in the image.
*Ghoulsaw*
Marcus: That's silly!
The best Grenieer engineer: Exactly!
The image of Anku is the weapon in it's retracted state. The blade extends into a typical scythe position when wielded
For some weird reason, to this day, the Anku is displayed in that image in it's "folded" form, the blade extends out like a regular scythe in combat.
this was great! thank you for not titling this "weapons expert REACTS to warframe weapons!!!!!". i hope you've acquired a real close-up mic since this video :)
The fang are still stilettos I believe going by your definition. They have no edge, they're essentially just pointy sticks. Correct me if I'm wrong because I am by no means an expert at all.