Wtf are Rogue Likes and why are they so damn fun
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- Опубликовано: 10 мар 2021
- Follow me down the rabbit hole in this video as I explain why I have 60000 hours in rogue-like games such as Wizard of Legend, Enter the Gungeon, Hades, Dead cells, etc.
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Игры
Interesting thing about zagerous's voice actor, is that he is also the music composer for the game.
He also had the speedrun record for a while
Asw as skellys
And the singing voice of Orpheus
Hades' voice actors is Zeus' voice too! As well as Zagreus' is Skelly's.
Dang what
Dead Cells get easier? Nah nah nah. It took me a month to beat 2 BC and after 1 run in 3 BC I ditched the game. It's incredible but goddamn, it practically forces you to play perfectly and that was 2 BC. It goes up to 5.
really? i thought 4bc wasn't that bad
I can't be bothered with the HP system in Dead Cells. Why does DMG Reduction exist in Assist Mode, but Increase Healing doesn't?
Orange HP only works when you're taking a huge beating, so reducing the DMG you take makes it harder to play the intended way because of Hitstun!
I mean yes, you CAN play with assist on, but does it REALLY count if you win?
Fr and it doesn't help u at all like at 5bc u dont get free cuddles, you get a fucking shotgun point blank in Ur face 💀
@@cskater8011 yes.
i can’t speak for hades, but dead cells counteracts the problem you mentioned really well by offering higher difficulty for those who hate themselves, and that difficulty goes WAY up, so it may be true that it gets easier during the first difficulty but at the end? endgame prisoners quarters is harder than the final boss on the lowest difficulty, just my two cents, loved the vid
Agreed! Also most of the permanent "upgrades" you can get in Dead Cells just offer more variety instead of making the game easier
Hades has something similar called heat which you unlock after beating the game, you can basically add challenges that range from minor annoyances to holy shit
@@ravenhart4387 Except Hades's difficulty scaling is shit
@@nimadarillian8573 yeah besides the flasks which you can unlock in like the first 2-3 hours of the game all of the other stuff is just mainly quality of life and outfits
My friend i would like to tell you something from expirience. Dead cells DOES NOT get easier the more you play it its completly the opposite. Get just 3 boss cells and the game becomes hell. I dont even want to talk about 4 and 5 bsc.
Actually, I found that the increased scroll count in 3bsc and higher can make the bosses so easy to destroy (especially with tactics). It’s like a one-shot system to applied to everyone, even you. Unless you play survival, and why would you do that?
@@chetacheese2789 as a survival main...
big bonk funny?
I beat 3BC first try (with moonflower quest) after struggling with 2BC, I think 2BC is the real difficulty spike.
@@mrhoundeye1064 Seems to depend on the player a lot, I beat both 1 BC and 2 BC first try after having stayed on 0 BC for a while, and now 3 BC suddenly has me dying in Prisoner's Quarters embarassingly often 😅
@@nimadarillian8573 yeah, 3bc scares me
On the flipside, Hades offering those things made it feel more like an actual RPG & actually hook me.
Other rogue-likes didn't hold my interest long. Plus later in the game, you turn up the heat & make the game even more difficult than it ever was originally, so it makes up for it.
not to mention that you can also decide HOW to make the game harder.
Want to through in more enemies to fight, with extra health and having them completely negate the first couple attacks you land on them? go ahead.
Want to have the game force you to speedrun it by giving you a time limit, while also making shop items more expensive and having choices on the god's boons restricted? You can try that.
Wanna overhaul the bosses with new attacks and in one case add an entire phase? You can certainly try.
@@derrinerrow4369 that's a hallmark of supergiant games, I'm pretty sure all 4 have some form of optional difficulty setting
the amount of pain i felt at 0:39 when i didn't see nuclear throne on that list
No Nethack? That's a crime. practically a war crime.
Random fun fact about Hades, in Greek myths Zagreus is the God of rebirth which is a major theme of the game (obviously)
he's not 💀, thats just what the community honorarily named him... Although he is a incarnation of Dionysus(although in the game, they supposedly made that story up to pull Orpheus's leg)
@@hsdiamond2113 Yeah sorry, I made this comment a while ago and after reviewing it he was just the first born Dionysus and when he was dismembered by Hera he was reborn into The second born Dionysus being more similar to the one we know so well nowadays
Anyone else realize that most genres include the name of the first game that was in that genre? For example, the first Roguelike was called rogue, and the first Metroidvania was called Metroid. So therefore, I hereby decree that fps games shall now be called castlewolfenstienlikes.
YES CASTLE WOLFENSTIEN FINALLY SOMEBODY KNOWS/REMEMBERS ABOUT IT!
For a good while, they were known as "Doom Clones." It may not have been the first, but it codified the genre. The term fell out of use in favour of "First Person Shooter" as the genre branched out.
Spelunky 2 is a game that exists and you should also play. It is hell, end of story
Watchout for the moles! :)
Spelunky 2 is the only game that consistently breaks me every time I play it, 12/10
Cosmic ocean has made me pull hairs out of my head
How does this guy not have more subs?
Because his statements are not truthful, it's sometimes bias. He shits with a game without a valid excuse.
@@goodvlogph5081 so like some of the greatest RUclipsrs what’s your point
@@goodvlogph5081 He never said that his statements are neutral.
He doesn't hae an obligation to make truthful statements. And in this field, its not outrageous to shit on a game, many people do it.
Because he's constantly talking shit to his viewers? Calling your viewers small rat brains doesn't entice them to subscribe you know.
I hear this point leveraged at games like Dead Cells quite often: “The upgrades make the game easier, so winning is a matter of grinding, not skill.”
First of all: the game is designed _around_ the idea that you will have those upgrades. They didn’t curate the game’s challenges and _then_ slap the upgrades on top it. The game’s difficulty was crafted with the inclusion of things like additional potion charges and a gold reimbursement in mind. It works in the same manner as leveling up in an RPG: you gain those tools so that you’re able to tackle the game’s later challenges.
As far as the point about these upgrades making the early-game areas, I have two counterarguments to this. The first is that I’d like to assert that in certain games, the early challenges are not as difficult as you believed them to be. The reason that the Prisoners’ Quarters became easier wasn’t necessarily because you invested into some permanent upgrades, but because you gained knowledge and experience of gameplay to be able to more easily tackle them. For example: when I first played Hollow Knight, I struggled against the False Knight: I died 3-4 times to him. I also _struggled_ with Hornet in Greenpath, as did many other people - some to the point of giving up on the game completely. Yet after managing to beat the game to 100%, I went back and had zero struggle against those bosses. Did I gain some permanent upgrade from finishing the game that made me deal more damage to them, or have more health going into those fights? No. I just didn’t suck at the game like I did the first time I fought them. The same can be applied to enemies in Dead Cells’ early-game areas: Zombies and Grenadiers were only hard because of your lack of experience with the game. (It is well established among the Dead Cells community that the Concierge is an inherently easy boss, and you see people like VeeDotMe refer to it as a “test dummy” for when he’s showing off a new weapon’s moveset.) These two ideas can co-exist: you can purchase upgrades that make you stronger, and have the game feel easier, simultaneously. But while you are spending your time unlocking those upgrades, you are naturally improving your skills at the game, which will inherently make you better at tackling those challenges. As the saying goes: coorelation does not equal causation.
And the second argument, is that the game resolves this problem for you by introducing higher difficulty modes, which counteract the effectiveness of many of the upgrades by stripping away health fountains, increasing the costs of items, buffing enemy stats, and for the purpose of this discussion, introducing brand new types of enemies that replace the old ones and are much more deadly. If you get caught up in a Rampager’s claws, that three-hit combo is likely to rip off nearly half your health. Have fun trying to recover from using a potion charge in the very first area on 5BC.
I feel that I should also take this to mention something else about the other difficulties: the boss cell modes, contrary to what I’ve seen some people assume of them, aren’t simply an optional, extra challenge. They are deeply woven into the full experience of Dead Cells, and this is proven by the fact that there is new, exclusive content spread across all of the boss cell difficulties that cannot be acquired on lower levels, all the way up to an extended endgame on 5BC that features an extra new area, a fourth, new boss fight, two new endings to the game, and various weapons and outfits dropped by enemies that exist nowhere else in the game. Yes, you can technically finish the game on 0BC, but it’s as much of a “completion” as saying that you finished The Binding of Isaac after beating Mom’s Heart for the first time (or whichever boss it is that gives the ending cutscene). You are missing out on _a ton_ of the game’s content - likely most of it.
I understand where you draw your conclusion about this, and I respect that it made the game less enjoyable for you. But I ask that you take my words into consideration, and maybe give the game another go. Perhaps it might change your mind.
There are a couple other points I’d also like to bring up, here. For starters, I have been around for almost the entire lifespan of Dead Cells (bought the game when it was on version 0.4), and so I’ve seen this game grow and change over time. And with that, I’d like to say that this game has had its difficulty nerfed _multiple times_ over the years. Most major content updates are released with challenges that people might describe as “nearly impossible”, and then they gradually tone things down to where it feels reasonable. The first DLC, Rise of the Giant, pushed the game’s difficulty so much higher that they dedicated the next patch just to rebalancing the new content that it added.
I’m also going to give my opinion of how Dead Cells compares to other roguelites that I’ve played. I believe that Dead Cells actually offers a much more “legitimate” challenge than games like Enter the Gungeon and The Binding of Isaac, because you can’t break the game’s difficulty anywhere near the same level. (And if you can, it’s a result of an exploit or other design choice, and it will inevitably be removed from the game in the future.) After your fourth time using the Black Hole Gun to completely negate the bosses’ attack patterns, or after seeing a dozen different videos of people straight up one-shotting Isaac bosses, it begins to feel like the items you receive as drops, in those games, play a far greater role in your ability to win over your skill and experience with the game. Sure, you don’t get those items every time, but if you keep playing for long enough you’ll run into the right RNG for it, and that seemingly allows you to bypass a big chunk of the learning curve and achieve a much easier win. I don’t need to learn how to successfully dodge all of High Dragun’s attack patterns, because I have the Fightsabre and it just deflects all bullets around me every time I reload.
You very rarely see that sort of thing in Dead Cells, because the game doesn’t have a tier system from weapons (where certain item drop far less often, but are significantly stronger that more common items), and the developers make a good point of fixing items when they become too strong. In this way, I feel like all of my victories in Dead Cells were rightfully _earned,_ since I faced roughly the same level of challenge every time. (I say “roughly” “the same level of challenge”, because as we all know, _perfect_ balance is an unattainable goal in game development.) I may be able to curate a build in Custom mode by reducing the randomization of item spawns, but I will still have to overcome the game’s challenges using that build, since there aren’t items that “don’t allow the enemies to play the game”, as it were.
Yup
Wise words my man
Here is a medal for you
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Isaac is literally Luck simulator, you could literally ruin your run by getting shit items because some late bosses are balancead around you broking the game, Isaac expectes you to Just destroy It's systems and proof of that IS How a Lot of items have fucked up op sinergies, and Dead cells is "easy because you can upgrade", yeah fucked UP isn't It
TL;DR
TL;DR - People play & beat Dead Cells once, and then believe they know everything about it.
hey loved the video, just had a bit of a problem with it. When you talked about difficulty in dead cells and hades, were you playing with more than one Boss cell in dead cells ? or the contracts in hades ? cause the healing part and not learning the bosses patterns is really not accurate. Anyways love the vids, keep it up!
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@@alexcat6685 that doesnt answer my questions, but thanks for trying !
Yeah I’m not sure why he was shitting on roguelites for being easier when they’re designed to be more customizable in terms of difficulty. Definitely a subjective takeaway as I’ve never once thought those games were too “easy”, but maybe I just need to “git gud”
@@wasteplace1705 yeah i hope he gets to see this message at some point, cause i think thats a VERY weird thing to say about roguelites. Yes maybe its the option to make it even harder bad for him, maybe he wants the entire game to be 5 boss cells difficulty, idk
You’ve done a great job by making this video! Also funny memes/jokes in between. Keep it ul buddy!!
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No
20 minutes till dawn
The binding of Isaac (+repentance)
Bone raiser minions
Bullets per minute
Brotato
Crab champions
Darkest dungeon
Dead cells
Dicey dungeons
Enter the Gungeon
Hades
Ftl
Geometry arena
Have a nice death
Hyper rouge
Inscription
Into the breach
Luck be a landloard
Muck
Noita
Nova drift
One step from Eden
Pawnbarian
Path of adventure
Peglin
Plate up
Risk of rain
Risk of rain 2
Shotgun king
Slay the spire
Snkrx
Soul knight
Soulstone survivors
Spelunkey
Vampire survivors
Wizard of legend
Extras that may not be included:
Archvale
Cosmoteer
Deep rock galactic (rock and stone)
Dwarf fortress
Hero’s hour
Hitman 3
Islanders
Muck
Phasmaphobia
Project zomboid
Stacklands
Super auto pets
Ha! (There was probably some on my switch that I’m to lazy to check)
Edited as of 4/16/2023
I wonder if this will be pinned?
No enter the gungeon? L
add soul knight to this please
@@pitanga1724 I have. But not long enough to include it on the list. (Like 45 minutes)
@@jamesthesoldier1142 I didn’t include it because it wasn’t on steam. But I have played it for like 15 minutes.
@@IRules2244 it fun
Enter the Gungeon is extremely fun but also has a ton of world building and easter eggs like The Hegemony of man, ghostbusters, other games like hyper-light drifter, and ton of other stuff if you pay careful attention
Yep that is why I love it especially because it is my first rogue like and I have devoted a lot of my free time to it.
@@haydensfamilytv3397 same :)
Hades, Slay the Spire, Dead Cells, and Risk of Rain 2 are all phenomenal games so I was happy to see them on your list
and he judged them without even caring enough to actually understand the mechanics for the most part
Hades was amazing. Also, it wasn't out when you made this video - but Rogue Legacy 2 is incredible as well.
The boss cells mechanic makes dead cells still very good for a rouge-lite game. It still makes the game challenging and makes you rethink your strategy a lot
I was really confused how this video has a disproportionate amount of likes-dislikes, since pretty much everything you said in the video has been objective, and as the average person, I agreed with pretty much all of it.
Then I realized it was probably people who watched your genshin video disliking your other videos, which is kinda really scummy
Yeah they've been review bombing me for about a year and a half lol
I would have guessed it'd be from more aggressive roguelike purists since he made a video about roguelikes and only listed one actual roguelike as one he had played(and a couple of debateable ones you could get someone to grudgingly agree to be close enough). Aside from Rogue most of the other games listed are closer to arcade games than rogue and would for example get you downvoted if you recommended them in r/roguelikes without at least specifying that they aren't a roguelike. But as I don't see any comments reflecting that you're probably right.
@@enrymion9681 only one? LMFAOO. Bro they're all rogue. Some roguelite. Most roguelike.
@@tumultuousv No, most are roguelite/arcade games, popular actual roguelikes would be games like Brogue, Caves of Qud, Cogmind, Infra Arcana, Jupiter Hell, Rift Wizard, The Ground Gives Way, The Doors of Trithius, ToME, Nethack, CDDA, Adom, Tangledeep, Shadow of the Wyrm and Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup all of them are much more clearly in the same genre as Rogue.
@@TheStellarJay Maybe constantly calling your viewers small-brain forever-alone femboys isn't exactly appealing?
I’m here after the GoW expansion. Thank you for enlightening me.
I had to pause the video three separate times because I was laughing my ass off. Thank you for not only a very informative video, but making it so fun!!
Hard to believe he uploaded.
Whats up bro
@@neptunedg1587 heyy
@@ikaika1801 wanna make out in vc
Icky yaka
Man I get people that like true rogue likes but I sure woudn't have found the will to keep playing Dead Cells if there wasn't progression and safe points every few areas
After 3 years of on and off wizard legend i have hit 100 hours and have a build that can consistently whoop magic ass - but I LOVE that i still fuck up and die to easy enemies because it makes me want to beat the game more and more. Easily one of my favourite videogames ever, and for a game with such little story i am amazed at its replayability.
Your openings are truly marvelous. I have another comment on another video (that I can't remember) giving an example, but "What's up guys, it's TheStellarJay aka Joe aka Jesus..." had me laughing much more than it should've.
Oh shit, I watched this video on Valentine's day 1 year after you made it and that last part caught me off guard.
Duskers has an amazing story and is incredibly unique
Just came from god of war ragnarok valhalla trailer bc idk wtf it was
On fire like in overwatch? That phrase aged like fine milk...
I strongly recommend Hand of Fate and its sequel, they introduce some very intriguing answers to a lot of flaws with the roguelike genre discussed here. Great video btw
I think that rouge lites like hades don't make things much easier with the tiny upgrades because they are insignificant but the ones that aren't are usually tied to skill so its not that big of a problem, deaths defiance is the exception
this video was so unexpectedly hilarious good job
Honestly, really informative video. I didn't know about Rouge the game or the difference between a Rouge-Like and a Rouge-Lite before now.
I also like the analogy you use for rouge-lites involving the weightlifter and the pig.
I definitely still appreciate rouge-lite games. I wouldn't want the advancements to trivialize the game, but I appreciate the lower skill ceiling as many people like myself don't have time to sink into a game to perfect skills and memorize attack patterns. For people like me, starting from 0 may mean we never finish the game. The little skill, experience, and improvement we get from casual play is mostly mitigated by the infrequency we play at. The little overall progress we make after each attempt, which would be 0 in a rouge-like, is practically the only progress we make.
When I have time, I'd love to sink my teeth into a rouge-like, but for now, I'll have to stay in my lane.
the analogy was not very accurate to say the least because he never played the game till the end he just ended at hard which for most players is just easy mode
Something I kinda liked about upgrades in roguelikes like Dead Cells, Skul, and Hades, is that it changed the overall feeling of the game. Like... Yea, it technically makes things easier, but it's less like you're suddenly able to kick the ass of everything without breaking a sweat, and more like "Now you're at the power level you're SUPPOSED to be at".
That's how I felt with something like Skul at least, That the like 160% physical and magical attack with 15% base crit change, the ability to destroy items you don't need to get gold, the Skull Type Specific Upgrades (Power skulls raking reduced damage, Balance skulls getting faster cooldowns, and Speed skulls moving and attacking faster), 1 extra life per run, & a 10 hp damage shield for 1 second whenever you switch skulls?... All of those basically brought you up to the par they expected you to be. And with those, being a little shitter who could barely even get through world 1 at first didn't feel nearly as bad. And it kept me going to actually try more of the game until I actually beat it. Meanwhile something like Dungeons of Dredmor or Tales of Majeyal were much more difficult for me to stick with long-term because I went through the same shit with the same builds over and over and over again without much benefit.
I had no idea what route games where until I saw this video... the more you know 🤌🤌🤌🤌
If you enjoy roguelikes but have very little time to do 40 minute runs I recommend nuclear throne
Dude risk of rain has a bomb ass story, told enough to be coherent while just held back enough to keep you guessing, plus it explains why you keep respawning, plus it tells you what's up with the final bosses of BOTH games, plus it explains the lore of EVERY ITEM which is almost at 200, plus it explains ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE STORY.
Tell me what other game has achievements being explained in the story outside of an achievements name.
Plus imo the risk of rain series is the best example of a roguelite that might as well be a roguelike. The items, characters and skills, and artifacts you unlock are made to enhance the game and all, outside of the character and artifacts you pick, are just as integrated into the randomness as the base items. Sure there are artifacts like command that make life easier, but then there's also dissonance and honor that really test your patience and skill level.
Risk of rain does not have a good story, if you can play an entire game and not know what the story is, it's not there.
@Galactic idk why i said that i only ever played the online
I like that FTL changes the challenge as you get new, better ships, by taking away something critical like your shields or weapons and letting you figure out how to survive long enough to get the basics. 90% of even my recent deaths in that game are in the first two sectors. Legend of a game
I recommend Dark Devotion and Curse of the Dead Gods. Like them both a lot
It’d interesting to see what you think of Nuclear Throne. That is a BRUTAL roguelike
A really cool Rogue-Like you didn't mention is FTL: Faster Than Light. it is a masterpiece.
Thank you for this!
I would say they're fun for hardcore gamers for them to play for the challenge they love to much
i remember when baby King Tut (aka Lil' Tuttling) was born. truly a day in history
My favorite genre is Rouge likes and Rouge lites but one I really like is nuclear throne it's hard as shit in the beginning and you will die because you don't really get to keep anything (until y.vs mansion but thats a secret level anyway) but it's extremely fun you should try it
Games that allow me to become an immortal god that can instakill anything are good
I've never played a rogue-L game. I just came here to understand what they're talking about with the new LOU2 mode. I subscribed for the pure comedy gold.
Idk why but I just can’t enjoy roguelikes because to me it’s unsatisfying for my progress to be wiped. Also I usually plays games for story and exploration, which roguelikes don’t emphasize usually. So Ive never get hooked on them, and I’ve tried a bunch
In that case I'd recommend hades. Good story, progress won't be wiped, and a bunch of unique zones 👍
@@TheStellarJay i've played hades and got bored might go back at some point idk :(
also progress is wiped in hades even if some stuff carries over
@@Le_Samourai i mean exploration is usually a part of rouglikes to get more resources etc and some rouglikes may not have best story but the lore
@@lesiuiuur123 its way less interesting for me to explore an algorithm generated world, and to explore that algorithm over and over again on repeat. yea some roguelikes have good lore but the repetition still grates on me
Wizard of Legend and Rogue i haven’t yet played, not heard of them. Noita i only haven’t played because i didnmt think it was available on a MAC but imma pull out my Switch sometime today and see if i can rectify that darkest dungeon i started but i immediately felt too overwhelmed at the town so i dropped it like a baby. Lastly i won’t play Exit the gungeon any time soon because i suck at ENTER the gungeon and refuse to play Exit until i beat Enter at least once. But make sure you play Risk of Rain 1. Yeah you’ve played a few more than me but i’m not far behind buddy!
Ngl free cuddles
Every 5 minutes sounds quite nice
I enjoy rouge lites. I like the sense of progress when I log off. And to feel like a literal god killer when I go through
My uncle gave me rogue back in the day, never realized it was a big deal, I feel special now.
Great explanation. You just convinced me to stay away from rogue-likes lol, but now I finally know what it is (and which games to avoid). Rogue-lites are still okay.
I know it doesn't really count for some people because you need to beat the game multiple times before you reach it but, if you play dead cells on 5BC then the problem mentioned of mistakes not being a problem because of free heals gets completely removed since there are 0 free heals (aside from food i guess but you need to go out of your way to find those).
Alot like Jesus you came back to life
But no I forgot you existed
First vid I watch on this channel. I like the style :-)
I played Pixel dungeon on mobile- great game. Only roguelike I played.
Also played Void tyrant. Very nice roguelite.
Does he review mobile games alao?
8:37 bro how did he know it's valentine's day, and how did he know I'm lonely 💀
Me: wtf is rogue-like?
This guy: well it all begins back in 1980....
Returnal has the deepest, best plot in a rougelike(-lite) i've seen. Also the game slaps
8:00 why did I immediately realize that’s from once upon a time???
It sounds like what I want is a rouge-lite with the nemesis system from shadows of Mordor
dead cells also have good stories to( if you've tried the dlc, ofc)
I would recommend peglin it's an early access rougelike with really good gameplay and no story
I once ended up autopiloting through like 6 rooms in hades while having a conversation with someone and i didnt realise it
First dislike
It’s also called meta progression, which is actually a very helpful
Imagine dead cells without the upgrades though that would be down right impossible. Plus I’m certain rouge lites it would work in rouge like fashion as they add a lot to the mechanics and what the games built around. Some games would be unbeatable
Risk of Rain 2 also has a fire story if you actually bother to find it
0:29 Wobbuffet use splash!
the binding of isaac is goa- ... very cool
they seem to be indie cartoony imaginary tiles. i play indie games such as teardown or beam ng. but i tend to play games based of the real world. if a rouguelike game had realistic setting then i would consider playing it
3:20 bro why is this guy so funny xDDDDD
I know I am 1 year late, but enter the gungeon has quite a complex story. Every single character and boss in this game have their own reasons to be in the gungeon and its very hard to understand all of the story without intense research
I’ve played all the roguelike on this list but rogue and wizard of legend, and let me tell you, NOITA was the single hardest game I’ve ever played periodt. I’ve played jump king, I’ve played all the DS games and elden ring, I’ve played battle Royales, but NOITA kicked me in the dick again and again and again.
did you like it?
@@user-su4mi6ky6z yes. Absolute banger of a game if you have the patience to throw attempt after attempt to make a little progress or learn one new thing.
@@TheTroupeMasterGrimm I meant the kicking
Because there's 100% game in the game, no cutscenes, no loot or resource management, no waiting for an outcome, you come in, and you blast.
The saving grace.
I edge myself to your videos
Triple AAA games are slowly testing the waters now with TLOU2 and Hitman 3 releasing a separate rouguelike mode.
I see a disturbing lack of ancient dungeon vr on your played roguelikes
The best rogue-like I know (with permadeath, only lore pieces carry over) is a Shattered Pixel Dungeon. Based on Pixel Dungeon, based on Brogue, base on Rogue.
5 classes as of now, diverse weapons, traps, talents, abilities, potions, scrolls. Most likely not as diverse as the games shown here, but there is no bloat inside and the bosses require skill.
I HAD to subscribe.
Wizard of league was so fckin good. We need more games like it and a few other. Nowadays all i see is Rouge likes taking the deck builder route and its piss me off.
Enter the gungeon was actually my first roguelike and now I just beat darkest dungeon. I lost my sanity on both
1:59 I CANT🤣🤣🤣
The lord and story of risk of rain 2 is the best, so is the sounds track, okay I might be biased because it’s my rougelike,
But Chris don’t miss man that soundtrack is banger
7:25 man was like "your genshin impact criticism sucks because fuck breath of the wild"
to be fair slay the spire actully has lore (i have hundreds of hours on it) the lore is basicly that the starting whale just sends you there over and over again and you can actually leave cards for your future self, but hey its just a theory a game theory
woah woah woah.. Us red heads may not have souls.. but we have feelings...
risk of rain has really good and fun story. The only downside is that you need to read log entries
Also play Risk of Rain 1 and Skul the Hero Slayer. Great games
So go with evasion, increased health, or the rasin cookie box in wizard of legend
yo some Wizard of Legend recognition less goo!
That game has the most satisfying combat that just makes me wanna smash that like button and subscribe for more content!
I wake approve of this video
Agree with all the vid. But in 5:28, what if you played dead cells in 5bc???
I love roguelikes because they have progression through skill and a LOT of variation
8:07 “this doll tells a story but it isn’t a good one. It’s a tragedy. It’s a story of 2 brothers, one of compassion and one of ambition” need I say more
If you were wondering game is risk of rain 2
youre a fucking king love ur vids. just found and subbed. hail algorithmn
I wonder what he would think about Cult of the Lamb, because it's technically a rouge-*lite*
Enter the Gungeon is my proudest 100% so far
Noita! Best roguelike out there!
should've talked about noita at least a bit. i have not seen any rogue-likes as exotic as noita is.