First PROBLEM With My 2023 Nissan FRONTIER Pro-4x *TIME TO TRADE?*
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2024
- Is it time to think about trading in the Frontier for a Tacoma? After owning my 2023 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x for a little over a year we have the first fail on the truck. My Frontier has quite a few mods but I don't think this would have been caused by any of that. What do you think? #nissan #frontier #nissanfrontier #2024 #mods #2023
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I had the same problem on my 2022 sv, I took it to the dealership and they resealed it. No fighting no questions from the dealership.
Too many 4x4 owners keep forgetting its a truck not an UBOAT!
Same thing happened to my 23 soon after I bought it. Took it to the dealership and was quickly taken care of. 14k miles later and no problems since
Yeah I'm thinking whoever or whatever is in charge of putting it together initially isn't set up properly
Nissan makes great trucks. I love my 2020 Titan pro-4x
My 2013 Toyota Highlander rear differential has been wet for over 2 years. Just did an oil change, guess what? Was still full when I opened the top bolt. Unless you have drops of oil collecting , this is not a leak. I do understand the frustration, my car is 12 years old at this point, yours is brand new.
2017 Frontier 146,000 miles no leaks.
14 months with my 2023 Pro 4x no issues, thanks for pointing this out. Will keep an eye on it!
I just found your channel… Fellow Canadian here
I’ve seen a few of these and it looks like they did a real crummy job when they were assembled… The dealership should look after it but The upgrade will be good also plus you get to choose the fluid you want to use in the rear end… I’ll look forward to seeing more of your videos
Check your breather on your diff. Make sure it is flowing air. My relocation filter was starting to clog.
I'll check it out
Z-1 OFFROAD rear differential breather mod is a must. Inexpensive mod.
I removed the tail pipe from my 2023 P4X. Remove the tail pipe back section first.. reinstall the frame bracket for future use someday, this way it does not get lost. Measure 3" out and mark for the cut from the weld at the muffler where pipe meets muffler. I used a sawzall. Straight cut down it cuts easily. Debur inside and outside of pipe, install the 12" down turn pipe.. push it on all the way and use a clamp to tighten it up. Dumps before axle and has plenty of room, and it has a decent tone when you get on it or rev engine. Also removes 10-11 lbs of weight. Walker 41809 Exhaust Pipe Spout 2.5" Inlet I.D. 20.00,, Heavy Duty 2.5 Inch Muffler Clamp 10.00 AMAZON.
I had mine overheat, only in 4X4 though. I suggest testing your 4X4, same with anyone else who has one of these. It was fixable at a dealer, but you don’t want it overheating when you actually need it. Like in a snowstorm or in backcountry
happened to my 2020 pro-4x, put the black arb cover on, easy change
I recommend using a service like Rust Check to protect your truck. I use them here in Maine
The only problem I have with mine is the design flaw with the seat where your leg hits the adjuster for the back of the seat when you get in and out and moves it back over time.
ARB diff cover #1. Super easy. The gasketing sealer is also easy to replace. I think I used the Permatex brand from Canadian Tire. 10 years on my Titan Pro-4x and no issues.
I’m just wondering how much it’s actually leaking. My diff looks fairly similar and when I change fluid, I still get a good bit out, it’s definitely not low when I change it.
My 2013 Xterra is doing the same thing. Factory sealant is junk. Probably didn't wait for it to set up properly. Plan to use Lube Locker gasket and properly torque the fasteners. Didn't want to use the ARB cover. It weighs a ton and no real benefit beyond the looks. Also make sure your relief valve is operating as it should. It could cause wheel bearing seal leaks.
yea it a common issue. but an easy fix. from the factory the gasket used on the rear diff is terrible. i immediately changed my cover to a billet one with a dipstick and got it re-gasketed the right way and no leaks or issues.
If you replace the diff, please post the part number and link to where to you ordered. A video of you replacing it would be awesome
I'll definitely do that
I got a 2012 sv I did a m226 axle swap and the first thing I did was get rid of that crappy diff cover and got the red arb cover and some gasket maker.
The Frontier and Tacoma have been equal in quality for more than a decade now and several publications including repair pal list the Frontier as more reliable based on actual repairs. But, hey, you guys do what you want. I have nothing against the Tacoma except the driving position of the previous generation was unacceptable for me. But the idea that simply buying a Tacoma means you'll never have to do anything other than change the oil is foolish. Especially if you actually take the thing off road. I've owned 15 cars now including seven Nissans and two Toyotas and the repairs were negligible among all of them but they all needed something eventually. Nothing major though. And Nissans trucks have never had an issue with their transmissions that was the early CVT's and a coolant leak into the transmission from a fault in a radiator in the second gen Frontier. It got a lot of press and Nissan haters love to bring it up but the actual percentage of failures was very small. It's was just catastrophic if it happened to you. For some reason people love to ignore the endless engine oil leaks, VVT issues and frame rot Toyota has had, Buying a car is not without risk. They all can fail. When someone like JD Power rates initial quality even the best brands still have issues. In 2023 believe it or not, Dodge ranked best in initial quality with 140 problems per 100 vehicles. Toyota, well, they fell below the industry average with 194 problems per 100 vehicles putting them in 23rd place behind even Jeep. And Nissan ranked 13th with 180 problems per 100 vehicles. Obviously this doesn't speak to long term mechanical reliability as not all the problems are mechanical in nature. Most are from electronics from having too much garbage on modern cars. But it does show that everyone has issues and pretending your completely safe with any brand is silly.
I'll be doing the same thing soon. My cover is seeping but not that bad yet. Only have a bit over 12,000 miles on mine though. You going with the red or black cover?
I went with red. I figured if I don't like it it's easier to paint red to black than the other way around haha.
Pull the diff cover and re-seal with a ultra gray or black, ck venting tubes for diff housing and you will be good for awhile.
Yea I always trade in my truck when the diff cover weeps ,the trany or engine is next there all connected, the arb cover will fit late model trucks,looks grate on my 2022
Mine is ordered. Should be here soon.
I'm hoping you're kidding never know on the comments 😂
I remember watching a video on aftermarket diff covers not providing the proper fluid transfer or flow vs the OEM especially if your towing etc. May want to look into that just cause it says ARB doesnt make it better could be worse.
gale banks video on aft covers - dont work
My rear diff cover is a little stained too but doesn’t drip, but mine is a first gen ‘04 and is 19 years older with the original gasket and until it drip’s, it’s staying. Renault could do a little better job. Considering a lot of my gen are hitting 500, 700 and 800k miles maintained it’s got a looooong way too go.
Had my 22 Frontier Pro-4X for 2 years now and over 40K miles and my diff has no leaks. Ot sure what’s going on with yours.
Dana must skimp on the RTV with the diffs. I’ve owned two JK Wrangler’s and the covers leaked just like this well with in a year of owning them . I ended up upgrading the diff covers instead of fighting with the dealer.
That's my thoughts exactly. Not worth the headache
I was looking at buy a frontier. Before hand I looked at a ton of used ones just to see how they were holding up generally speaking of course. I have yet to see a used 22,23 frontier that didn’t have leaking axles, either around the diff cover or the tubes and pumpkin. Even saw a few leaking from the pinion seal. All the ones I looked at were less than 10k miles. Probably covered under warranty, but still made me pause on buying a new one.
Understandably so. Just for reference, my 23P4X currently had 24k miles on it. This is the first I’ve heard of the rear diff issue. I literally just checked my undercarriage yesterday after some offroading. Didnt see anything at the diff or axles, and I specifically checked the rear diff and sway bay for rock damage. No fluid.
@@KB-fy7gn Sweet action. Do your rear doors have any issues? That was another thing I noticed on about half of them, rear doors wouldn’t shut right. Of course the dealers all said they’d “fix” it if I bought it.
@@turtledunkknucklebaby8089 Initially, yes. It’s the weatherstrip for the door. They’re great at sound deadening, but when the truck was new the seals were also new, and nice and “plushy”. Just had to make sure to close them properly.
Why post a video and threaten that you are going to buy a Toyota ? Buy one and move on . Good luck....
Oh yeah, the equivalent in Toyota will only run you around $70,000.
@@markgobuffalo6490dude no kidding
Tacoma's are junk nowadays so I believe the frontier is the only real reliable midsized truck
@@mikesanythingoutdoors9153they got rid of their V6 and traded for a four banger turbo, definitely not reliable as a naturally aspirated engine.
Good luck with a Toyota. Their trucks are in major decline.
Interesting. For years I bought nothing but Datsun trucks and really liked them. I lost a rear end on one with really low miles. It was the only trouble I ever had. When I say low miles it was like just out of coverage.
Other than the leak I've had no issues so far. Hopefully it's not a sign of things to come
I had the same problem with 2014 tundra. I took it to 2 dealerships to have it repaired while the truck was under warranty and both refused to fix it. They said it's normal. One dealer tried to upsell me a brake job. The truck had only 43k miles on it when I decided to sell it.
Yeah most dealers are like that from what I heard. I figure do it myself instead of wasting time at the dealership
A diff cover made you wanna sell your truck? Wow man. That really shows where you are in the world as a man.
This has been an issue with the frontiers since 2005. Nissan's lack of quality control is beyond belief. They are still using the same defective axle and no fix to such an easy problem to address. My 2012 Pro4x had this issue and it was fixed under warranty with only 20k miles.
No gasket please, just sealed with ultra grey
All trucks on the market right now have issues except the 4th gen taco, but it's only been out for a few months. Time will tell. All half tons except the titan have catastrophic engine failer for one reason or another. Everyone has to pray they aren't the 1 to 4% with a issue.
The mkd sized all have individual issues too. Oit of the issues all the trucks have, a rear diff leak is nothing. Through a kit on it and enoy that natural aspirated reliability.
Def keep us updated if there are some major things. Someone said they had trans issues. I have yet to see that anywhere online, other than the park issue. That was fixed.
Damn I’m gonna check mine, have 5,400 miles on mine, thanks for the heads up! You probably said earlier in video but how many miles are on yours?
I have 15k km whatever that works out to in miles lol. Not very much
@@CanadianCruisin 9,320 miles lol
@dethtopedophiles3870 yeah enough that is shouldn't be leaking yet haha
@@CanadianCruisin yeah no shit, definitely something you’ve brought to my attention. Gonna be keeping an eye out on mine now. Good luck and do an update video with the new cover please
My D41 2022 Frontier Pro-4x also has a wet rear diff cover. Dealership here in Utah does the videos in the online portal for review while they diagnose and do any maintenance. It was something along the lines of "Rear diff cover is wet, not dripping. Not a big deal." lol looks like I'm getting an ARB as well.
That's what I figured mine would do as well. Best off just to upgrade and forget it
@@CanadianCruisin Looking over their site (I'm somewhat layman when it comes to this sort of stuff), which cover would I get? Does the Frontier Pro-4x have a Dana axle of a particular model? There's about 30 covers to choose from it seems.
@DanielGloverTheGreat ours is a Dana 44. They come in red and black. Part Number: 0750008 for the red and 750008B for the black is what it shows on the Z1 Offroad website. It could be different straight from arb though.
@@CanadianCruisin you rule. Thanks for the tip!
Wow what state are you in that corosion is bad.
My front diff shattered open and leaked it all out on level ground when I got stuck in mud. They fixed it under warranty since it only had 3k miles but I am a bit leary now. Also the front camera quit working at 5k. I love the truck but not sure about it.
I havent had mine in mud yet. I'll see what happens eventually lol
I think that looks like a JK Dana 44. I wonder if you could use one of their iron differential covers.
I think the jk diff has a 8 bolt pattern instead of 12. It is still the Dana 44 though
My 2023 is not leaking with 32,000 miles. Pro-4x
Not familiar with any brands, but Gale Banks video about diff covers
This seems like a super simple fix...and at the same time - change the gear oil!
This happend to toyota tacoma also. The dealer put a new seal on mine
It only takes a few drops of oil weeping past a seal, spread out, and look like the Exxon Valdez oil spill.
Damn! That underside looks the same as my 2012 Pro-4X.
Left overs with a new body thrown on top lol
I have the same issue with my 2022. Wet on both sides. It’s getting worse slowly.
My arb cover should be here tomorrow. I'll post it and let you know how it holds up
Noooo man...just pop that sucker off and get a new gasket and get some of that permatex ultra black and put it on both sides and tighten it in sequence.. wont hurt to go a little over tourque spec and it wont leak again
this is called diif sweat. i have had a truck and explorer do this over 15 years. and checked the diff during proper maintenance and its always full
That's because these frontier people don't want you to realize that they're bulletproof vehicle pretty soon we'll end up with nothing but there engine in the Corner of there garage Might not be a boat but nature 😮reclaims Capish😅lol
Question. Is this common with vehicles with original equipment and no mods?
I've heard a lot of them are doing the same. It's a warranty issue for now but it's just strange how many are leaking
I thought this was why the rear differential breather kit was created.
I've got the breather kit but didn't seem to do much lol
Man, for the price of the taco, I'd rather have a frontier and just do a few aftermarket swaps. I have a 16 and it's indestructible, so maybe I'm biased.
Holy cow! Can I ask what state you live in?
I'm in Canada. British Columbia
@CanadianCruisin say hi to Trudeau-lini for me lol
@@dgunearthed7859 you can take him 😂
@@CanadianCruisin lol .... hard pass!
If there is liquid showing, it has leaked. wtf is the dealer thinking? Do it yourself and use a gasket out of a tube instead. Did you happen to get with Nissan? I’d like to know what they have to say about it… and what they think about the dealers blowing you off.
You take your frontier on dirt!? *gasp
Should be a warranty fix.
For the amount of money their asking for these trucks, you shouldn't have to go out and buy another diff cover, I get that you were going to change it anyway, but still. I'll stick with my 2016 4runner. Good luck with the new cover.
What do you think of the new 4runner?
Can't say I'm sold on it, I find it looks to much like the Tacoma. I always felt the 4runner had it's own identity which separated it from anything else out there. Maybe it might grow on me, but I still have a great sense of pride with my 5th Gen. As they say, there's something about owning a 4runner. Thanks for asking.
Seriously most enthusiasts change out rear differential because they know what they are putting the vehicle through factory is different then modified you have modified and factory can’t take the stress simple fix
Clogged vent can cause pressure and eventually leaks
I upgraded the breather already
Where are you getting the gasket?
its rtv sealant iirc
You can either use rtv sealant or lubelocker makes an actual gasket for it which is supposed to be a little better.
@@CanadianCruisin thats super interesting and a much better option imho. which one did you end up getting?
Nisssan has had diff issues with their trucks for decades and not fixed the problem. Why would they fix it now. Poor quality differential
ARB diff cover!!! Was this a video just to show your wife that you need it?? 😂😂😂😂 Im going to put one on mine!!
The trick is you just don't tell her 😂
So you are not going to have your vehicle fixed under warranty?
If it wasn't for youtube I'd probably get it fixed. But im able to show people and make more videos to help people out so I'd rather go that route.
How did you notice it if it wasn't dripping on the floor??? Sounds very suspect
You can easily see under the back of the truck with the lift. You don't even need to tilt your head
Where do you get the tail gate letters
I ordered them on etsy. Just search 3D lettering and there are a few options
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This aged well. Toyota I falling apart right now with their tacomas and tundras
Sure, good luck with yotota😂
big whoop bring in in for warranty repair
He said he would, but he doesn't trust they would put a better seal on it. I am with u though. Maybe they just had a bad batch at the factory. Or make em do it every time it starts leaking again and get a new truck w the lemon law
@@dgunearthed7859 looks like it was poorly sealed- new gasket and permatex should last as long as he has it-- I like the arb stuff but really the oem will work fine -
@bikeman1x11 I hear ya. With new cars I just feel like "you sold me this for alot of money now FIX IT!" LOL
Lots of Toyota people are switching to Nissan because they want a V6 engine. Be careful doing that Nissans quality isn’t what it used to be
F n seep in 2024. Come on.
Documenting issues is all well and good, but it beats me why you haven't gone to the dealership for a warranty repair to reseal it. The question would be, will it be a recurring problem, making a video then would make a bigger impact. I had mine, barely 3 months old. I'd be interested to know what the dealership says.
I was planning to upgrade to the arb cover anyways so might as well do it now instead of waiting
Ford does this brand new off the lot
This problem is no big deal. Trade it for a new Ford and you will really have problems. (and I’m a Ford guy)
Toyota has trans mission issues ! Dude all that corosion under a new truck is horrible , by the look of the corosion your gaskets are probably shot. 😮
Tfl busted a front diff on a taco🤣🤣
1st…I just read the title….watching now….lets buy a raptor. LFG
Nah
Raptor one day. Not yet lol
Didn’t know this was an issue. I’ll have to check it out when I get home
Bruh just get a new cover from Z1 and call it a day.
Oh no, a leak. Better buy a whole new car
Toyota has their problems.
It would take a lot for me to trade it in for a tacoma haha.
These trucks do not have undercarriage weather protection Coating Among other things That's why they can sell you these trucks so cheap where is the money saving advantage In the long run you'll be paying that extra Going cheap also has its huge price If these trucks are already dissolving from the bottom I can imagine when winter comes in when they start pouring in all that salt to melt the snow I guess trade it in And pass that problem to the next person That's a bulletproof plan "no thanks"👎
I have a 2018 pathfinder and there is not a spec of rust underneath. No underneath coating and driven all year up here with no issues. Only part that has any rust at all is the exhaust
He imagines a fight with the dealership that he's not willing to have. Pointless.
Man up. Take it in. Let us know what they say and stop whining.
Nissan will gladly fix the problem i’m pretty sure. Unless you have a shitty dealership. They charge Nissan. End of story
Get it fixed
That isn't how it works exactly
no big deal,
big deal!! it's a minor thing, fix it and move on!
Click bait video, you can drive the truck for years like that.
This whole video makes zero sense
Man your trucks undercarriage looks horrible for a year old
It's dirty. It's a truck lol
nit picking
what a cry 🤱 🤱 baby
Never buy a useless pickup. You will only be dissappointed...
I tow a travel trailer with my frontier, does great , guys with tiny units need big trucks..
To me that's a design flaw. Under torque that sealer isn't doing its job you don't need to fail dramatically while on a trail ...my 2c.
Yeah it definitely shouldn't be leaking like that. I havent even done anything to crazy off road yet either
Aren't these Dana axles?
They are. Must be the leftovers for Nissan lol