Hi Ciro, 55 year old Chinese guy, born in SA. (My parents, were also born here in the 1930s, it was my grandparents on both Mom and Dad’s side who came here from different parts of China). I’m a bit gobsmacked by how much Ciro knows about Chinese history in SA. Yes, as Chinese, we were ‘second class’ citizens, same as Indians and Coloureds, and like them we could not vote. Yet any Japanese born in SA were classified ‘first class’ citizens. Go figure. Then the Taiwanese (who are Chinese too) were lured to SA by the Nat govt, to establish factories and industry particularly in the "independent homelands". Once that happened, we locally-born Chinese were allowed to apply to the Minister of Education for permission to attend white schools or universities, but we were not allowed to vote until 1994. I am still in contact with one of my Taiwanese classmates who is back in Taiwan, and he travels between there and China on business all the time.
Thank you for sharing! My grandfather was Chinese, but he passed away a long time ago. There was a lot of mystery surrounding him and how he came to settle in the Coloured community. History is so fascinating.
很好， 我喜欢中国车。 Best idea ever to launch this series. Delivering first hand information instead of hear say. Can't wait for the next episode. Bring it on 🤞
What an incredibly informative show this is/was. Rob Yao is quite a fantastic guy. Thank you for bringing him over. Ciro, you are simply an outstanding human being! 🤩
Just very happy for my friend in childhood!!!! You did what you love! Still remember that essay you wrote about cars when we were in primary school which got full score!!! Proud of you Rob!! 🎉😊😊
What an awesome and informative podcast! Really cool. Would love to go try out the hotpot restaurant 😋 Where exactly did you go? Sounds like worth visiting
Awesome episode, looking forward the next ones to come. Always love Ciro's view on almost all things, and to have Rob now is very refreshing. I am absolutely sold on Chinese products, especially cars. Have owned three now and always looking for the next one. Their (Chinese) outlook on technology and value they bring to the table with such brave enthusiasm is next level. Its about time that bloated traditional brands get a good run for their money.
Would really love to see that the traditional brands can also drop their prices from the Chinese OEM competition, which will benefit all the consumers like us
Never watched a car show and felt so honored. I love Chinese philosophy from watching Cyrus Jansen. Jan Weiwei. Thanks for bringing geopolitics in the car industries. Deep understanding of manufacturing is needed for us viewers too. Facts based on Statistics shall be appreciated too. ❤❤❤
I’ve always loved Ciro’s reviews and found him to be quite genuine aside from being likeable and a great journalist but this interview really proved my suspicions that he’s an all round great guy, shout out to you Ciro for this great and well balanced interview… I’m always pleased to see white South African’s that are this genuine about racial dynamics
Really loved the series, I like how he was open about racism and its effect and being an Auto electrician my self I really wanted to work in China in 2018 but being black racism is always something I'm more likely to experience it n social media does do china justice in its own racism against black people.
Brilliant podcast. Watched to the end even with me being little ADHD. Keep up the good work. Rob is such a cool guy. Would love to have u guys at the East Rand Motor Show.
This was gold. Very interesting for those that have never traveled to China (like myself). Might have to make a trip after hearing these great things about China
This is a very good learning episode. I wish most of the companies and societies can learn and improve themselves out of this conversation. Thanks very much for your consideration, I learned lot from this.
I have subscribed, bring on the next episode please guys!!! Our greedy and corrupt government can really learn a lot from the Chinese. Implimenting is where we horribly fail at.....and Don't forget about the lack of education created by our previous government.
Lovely interview. I really hope that some of the these cars manufacturers can have factories here is SA as well. even if its just assembly. I think that way consumer will have more trust in the product knowing they will get full support locally and also benefiting economically
I am Very Proud of the Chinese for where they have Reach in life today ,Great People and Selfless People, they try to make life easier for Everyone across the Globe 🌎🌍🌏 👍👍👍👍👍 29:33
Lovely that this guy is focusing on the Chinese market for his company and business. You won't struggle to grow if U befriend people people with the same kind of energy.
Very informative, lovely history. They understand geopolitics too. Well read too for the Chinese guy. True example that stereotypes do change for the better with time and consistency. We were used to view as sub par business people with poor linguistical clarity. Now their public image.
this kind of dialogue should be more, because south african has been influenced by western media for very long, so much sterotype of China, my friends always ask me about China, i first tell them what i experienced, and i always said go to China and experience it, don't just listen. i know it's too unbelievable when people just hear from one, life is so difference between two countries.
Can never wake up a person who’s pretending to be asleep, open minded people will always be interested to have both side of the story so they can make their own judgement, idiots and sheeps will just listen and believe what’s presented/fed
Let me answer that, because we vain, we want sedans to make us look important haha, and we think sedan shape has more crumple zone in an accident so it’s safer, but younger generation definitely starting to create more demand for hot hatches
@@LungeloGigaba yes , the whole episode and will i will be watching the next parts aswell . Now back to the question , are their cars reliable . If yes im buying one .
Just wait till the shit hits the fan. Let's see how long these Chinese products last. Maybe not tomorrow. Maybe not next month. Our dear country certainly has made their bed.
Yeah I’m also waiting for when’s the Chinese space station to fall off the sky, google it, maybe it will change your view on Chinese quality, there’s different quality products for different target markets, and question for you, if a European machinery that can last 50 years and cost 100 million rand to buy, and Chinese machinery cost 20 million rand to buy but will last only 30 years, which one would you choose, Chinese quality may not be super durable but super durable stuff also doesn’t get updates, remember one of the first light bulb factory closed down because their light bulbs were too durable and they never break so they couldn’t sell more lightbulbs. Let that sink in….
Rob sounds like a Fourways boet Thank you for the open and frank conversation, I am still enjoying my Chery Tiggo 4 Pro, shes a bit thirsty.. but its's okay... @ROB - Gong Xi Fa Cai 恭喜发财
Hi Ciro, 55 year old Chinese guy, born in SA. (My parents, were also born here in the 1930s, it was my grandparents on both Mom and Dad’s side who came here from different parts of China). I’m a bit gobsmacked by how much Ciro knows about Chinese history in SA. Yes, as Chinese, we were ‘second class’ citizens, same as Indians and Coloureds, and like them we could not vote. Yet any Japanese born in SA were classified ‘first class’ citizens. Go figure. Then the Taiwanese (who are Chinese too) were lured to SA by the Nat govt, to establish factories and industry particularly in the "independent homelands". Once that happened, we locally-born Chinese were allowed to apply to the Minister of Education for permission to attend white schools or universities, but we were not allowed to vote until 1994. I am still in contact with one of my Taiwanese classmates who is back in Taiwan, and he travels between there and China on business all the time.
Thank you for sharing! My grandfather was Chinese, but he passed away a long time ago. There was a lot of mystery surrounding him and how he came to settle in the Coloured community. History is so fascinating.
I love how direct Rob was in this podcast. He didn't hold back with his summary description of history 😅
I wish world leaders would talk to each other like this. Talking, listening and learning. Nice to hear and learn from them in a casual setting.
I do agree with you. These 2 Guys are a match made in SA. Well informed.
More please! This was brilliant. I really like the direction this channel is going. Nothing like it in SA!
Hi Chiro and Rob. Thank you for this very interesting conversation-enjoyed it very much. Looking forward to the next episode. Greetings.
The halo on top of Rob's head. Love it. 😊😂
很好， 我喜欢中国车。 Best idea ever to launch this series. Delivering first hand information instead of hear say. Can't wait for the next episode. Bring it on 🤞
What an eye opener... brilliant stuff Ciro... can't wait for the next episode
South Africa best car podcast❤❤
I am looking forward to more of these!
What an incredibly informative show this is/was. Rob Yao is quite a fantastic guy. Thank you for bringing him over. Ciro, you are simply an outstanding human being! 🤩
Fantastic podcast, I wish more of the Australian bogans who watch my channel would actually catch what your guest is talking about. Well done guys.
' Shop with Rob' for the following episode/s title. Quite interesting to hear how Rob views both countries. Thanks for the content. 😎✌️
Thank you, this was an education.
Rob is very motivational, he guides you on what to focus on. That's so different and a joy to experience.
Just very happy for my friend in childhood!!!! You did what you love! Still remember that essay you wrote about cars when we were in primary school which got full score!!! Proud of you Rob!! 🎉😊😊
What an awesome and informative podcast! Really cool. Would love to go try out the hotpot restaurant 😋 Where exactly did you go? Sounds like worth visiting
Thank you so much! My Pot in Cedar Square, Fourways. It is inside a sushi restaurant in case you can't find it
@@Carscoza thanks so much. Appreciate it ;)
Awesome episode, looking forward the next ones to come. Always love Ciro's view on almost all things, and to have Rob now is very refreshing. I am absolutely sold on Chinese products, especially cars. Have owned three now and always looking for the next one. Their (Chinese) outlook on technology and value they bring to the table with such brave enthusiasm is next level. Its about time that bloated traditional brands get a good run for their money.
Would really love to see that the traditional brands can also drop their prices from the Chinese OEM competition, which will benefit all the consumers like us
I could watch this episode repeatedly. Very educational. Cheers to many more episodes. I can't wait for the next installment.
Super insightful! Not just about cars, but the Chinese economy in general I think. Interesting future ahead
Fascinating discussion! Looking forward to the next installment.
May this video reach 1million views!
I like this guy. And Ciro is always a great communicator
Interesting. Nice one, Ciro. Rob is an interesting fellow. Also has an interesting English accent, goes from SA to China.
Thanks man, I do have an interesting Mzansi Mandarin accent
I truely enjoyed this episode. Episode 2 please. This is really good.
Brilliant chat this! Eye opening!
Nice! I like the fact that it’s not hours, shoots straight to point. I’m coming back for more🎉
This is a fascinating interview. Absolutely enjoyed it especially about the schooling system.
So glad you enjoyed it. Episode 2 has been filmed and coming out this week
Thanks Ciro and Rob!That was excellent cant wait for episode 2
Wow! I’m not a podcast consumer but I enjoyed this. I just wish we can have part two tomorrow
GWM needs to give Ciro a decent Commission
Never watched a car show and felt so honored. I love Chinese philosophy from watching Cyrus Jansen. Jan Weiwei. Thanks for bringing geopolitics in the car industries.
Deep understanding of manufacturing is needed for us viewers too. Facts based on Statistics shall be appreciated too. ❤❤❤
I’ve always loved Ciro’s reviews and found him to be quite genuine aside from being likeable and a great journalist but this interview really proved my suspicions that he’s an all round great guy, shout out to you Ciro for this great and well balanced interview… I’m always pleased to see white South African’s that are this genuine about racial dynamics
Awesome podcast cant wait for the second one.
Well done Ciro & Rob. Very enlightening discussion. Keep these insightful sessions coming.
Really loved the series, I like how he was open about racism and its effect and being an Auto electrician my self I really wanted to work in China in 2018 but being black racism is always something I'm more likely to experience it n social media does do china justice in its own racism against black people.
Very interesting conversation looking forward to more episodes
Great introduction to the series. Nicely done.
this felt like the most honest podcast i ever heard. Great Gents
Very interesting conversation, loved it
Ooooo can't wait for the next episode!!!!
Great episode, looking forward to watching episode 2
Brilliant podcast. Watched to the end even with me being little ADHD. Keep up the good work. Rob is such a cool guy. Would love to have u guys at the East Rand Motor Show.
This was gold. Very interesting for those that have never traveled to China (like myself). Might have to make a trip after hearing these great things about China
Excellent and super interesting interview Ciro 👏
Very interesting chat, will also look out for episode 2. Great work!
Great interview. Very insightful and informative.
This is a very good learning episode. I wish most of the companies and societies can learn and improve themselves out of this conversation. Thanks very much for your consideration, I learned lot from this.
Nice segment!! One of your best Ciro!! Thank you.
I have subscribed, bring on the next episode please guys!!! Our greedy and corrupt government can really learn a lot from the Chinese. Implimenting is where we horribly fail at.....and Don't forget about the lack of education created by our previous government.
very informative and let's keep this going Thank you for this podcast
Brilliant interview!
Lovely interview.
I really hope that some of the these cars manufacturers can have factories here is SA as well. even if its just assembly. I think that way consumer will have more trust in the product knowing they will get full support locally and also benefiting economically
Excellent Show..
I love the content it has really helped as I teach 2 chineses kids I really look forward to the next show.
I am Very Proud of the Chinese for where they have Reach in life today ,Great People and Selfless People, they try to make life easier for Everyone across the Globe 🌎🌍🌏 👍👍👍👍👍 29:33
Lovely that this guy is focusing on the Chinese market for his company and business. You won't struggle to grow if U befriend people people with the same kind of energy.
Learned a looootttttt
Very informative, lovely history. They understand geopolitics too. Well read too for the Chinese guy. True example that stereotypes do change for the better with time and consistency. We were used to view as sub par business people with poor linguistical clarity. Now their public image.
More of these please 🙏🏽
Awesome podcast Learnt so much about Chinese culture Thank you Rob 👏
Me too. 2 well informed people with purpose
The only Chinese cars I am interested in is EV’s. Can Rob take through the coming EV’s and affordable prices.
The show should be: AUTOPOLITIK CHINA/SA SHOW. I would also love to join this lovely show.
This is fun!
Great listen gents dig it. I want a Jeacoo J7 🤣
looking forward to the J7
Excellent
this kind of dialogue should be more, because south african has been influenced by western media for very long, so much sterotype of China, my friends always ask me about China, i first tell them what i experienced, and i always said go to China and experience it, don't just listen. i know it's too unbelievable when people just hear from one, life is so difference between two countries.
Can never wake up a person who’s pretending to be asleep, open minded people will always be interested to have both side of the story so they can make their own judgement, idiots and sheeps will just listen and believe what’s presented/fed
This guys accent is on point. You could take him into Hanover Park and they wouldn't touch him.
Language opens up boundaries. One thing I wish These 2 can learn is Zulu os Sesotho
Very nice podcast. Any new news on the BAIC BJ40 plus, will be appreciated. Thank you
Very informative.
Dope episode 🙌
The office looks awesome man! 🎉🎉
Chinese market is something else>>
I know Forvia. These guys are well informed wow
China Chow! A play on words between Chowing in a ZA context but also Chow Mein which is a popular Chinese dish? No? Okay I'll keep spit balling 😅
How does Jingtrades sound? Beijing Trades?
Hi Ciro i wanted to know why the Chinese market does not dab into the hatchback type kind of cars
Let me answer that, because we vain, we want sedans to make us look important haha, and we think sedan shape has more crumple zone in an accident so it’s safer, but younger generation definitely starting to create more demand for hot hatches
Next time also talk about the CHINESE super car by BYD
Please let them we are waiting for v6s and v8s engines
To be honest even though I’m Chinese I still like Italian V8s 😅
More info on Jeacoo pls
Would it be cheaper to buy a Chinese manufactured car from China and importing it or just buying it in South Africa?
Please also talk about Jentour SUV
Not in the studio. Why Ciro
I love how the Chinese run their economy seems like everyone can afford food, housing and Cars Cars Cars
Dind out if J6EV Will make it to our shores in future
Big Wang... 🤣
😂These 2 Guys are clever
Are the cars reliable ?
Bafo, did you watch or listen to the episode?
@@LungeloGigaba yes , the whole episode and will i will be watching the next parts aswell . Now back to the question , are their cars reliable . If yes im buying one .
If u take it for service it will last you chief. Just like any car
Didn't know that Ciro was Italian. Video smack a little of paid propaganda.
This sycophantic interview does nothing to establish Car magazine's disinterestedness. A case of dining with the devil.
Learnt a new word today, had to use google translate for sycophantic, thank you for the education. 😊
Just wait till the shit hits the fan. Let's see how long these Chinese products last. Maybe not tomorrow. Maybe not next month. Our dear country certainly has made their bed.
Yeah I’m also waiting for when’s the Chinese space station to fall off the sky, google it, maybe it will change your view on Chinese quality, there’s different quality products for different target markets, and question for you, if a European machinery that can last 50 years and cost 100 million rand to buy, and Chinese machinery cost 20 million rand to buy but will last only 30 years, which one would you choose, Chinese quality may not be super durable but super durable stuff also doesn’t get updates, remember one of the first light bulb factory closed down because their light bulbs were too durable and they never break so they couldn’t sell more lightbulbs. Let that sink in….
I will not drive a Chinese car. I do not trust the quality.
Rob sounds like a Fourways boet
Thank you for the open and frank conversation, I am still enjoying my Chery Tiggo 4 Pro, shes a bit thirsty.. but its's okay...
@ROB - Gong Xi Fa Cai 恭喜发财