I like the 65 impala and even the 66 and 67 but I never got the appeal of the 64. It's way too boxy. The 64 Ford Galaxy is very sweet tho. I love the sculpture of it and you could get the police interceptor option engines.
the quickest time i ever saw for a '79 WS6 W-72 400 was a 14.6@96mph all stock. it was the quickest domestic car in '79, even beating out the '79 L-82 Corvette.
As much as I loved every Trans Am I had the past 45 yrs the Dodge Lil Red Express truck {always wanted one} was the fastest vehicle 2 yrs in a row 1978-79!
I had a new beige/brown '62 Chevy Impala SS that had the 327 300 HP. Fairly decent car until it was stolen and wrecked 18 months later. I replaced it with a new all options red/black '63 Ford Galaxie XL 390 4 speed convertible from TASCA Ford in RI. I still have that car today and it's in near perfect showroom condition despite its age. Only driven during warm weather months. It's never been driven during winter months.
I had a 79 403 T/A . I put headers , RV cam, Edelbrock intake , then replaced the dreadful 2.41 rear gears ( put in 3.70 gears ) and added a 700R4 trans - the car ran 14.0 @99 mph . Then I swapped to the W-31 Ralleye 350 heads and my best time was 13.4 @104. It also got 22 Mpg on the freeway . Great car - wished I kept it , but had a lot of fun from 1989-2002 .
The only time in a magazine for a 79 403 T/A with the 2.41 gears bone stock ran 17.06 @80 mph . I think Car and Driver got a 15.2 @93 mph - out of a bone stock 4 speed 400 back in 79.
I had that same 79 TA Nocturne blue 4spd 4wdisc Pontiac 400. After cat converter removal, reJet Quadrajet, & curved distributor, 93 octane, I could run consistent 14:68 on the GYear tires from factory. Shot nos one time, in 2nd gear only for a 14:30et
@@joebryan2135 nope, other than needing to add “whale oil” additive when changing the axle fluid, to stop a clunking noise in the rear end on turns, which was common-I had zero problems out of my rear end. Positractraction always worked, even when chirping the tires in 2nd 3rd & sometimes 4th. I never put slicks on, but i did end up cracking the Borg Warner T-10 transmission case in two. I street raced my car on the weekends as well as bracket racing Saturday and Sundays. That clunking noise in the rear end may have in fact caused many people to replace the rear end not realizing all that was needed was a fluid change or did not hear the clunking noise and end up destroying the axle. I my axle held up under all the racing I did, they were sufficient for mildly over stock mods 👌
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 78 - 79 W72 400 T/A was Quicker - Hot Rod Magazine tested a Bran new 79 W72 400 4 spd T/A ran a 14.6 @ 96 mph . Test of Lil Red Express truck ran a 15.7 @ 88 mph - just google Dodge Connection
Four-barrel 327 Chevy cars were as common as dirt in the 1960's. You could never take beating one for granted though. Chevrolet made some screamer 327's, and you could never be sure which one you were running against, even in barges like this one. For most of the 1960's, 327's were the hot Chevy small block. 350's didn't appear until 1967, and they were only available in Camaros when they first came out. Nice video.
Back in high school, 85/86, I had a 79 10th Anniversary Trans Am with a 400/4 speed. It had a whopping 21k miles on it when I got it. I put a better exhaust on it (true duals, no cat) and put some richer secondary metering rods in the carb. Other than that it was 100% stock. I raced it very regularly and it ran consistent 14.80s with a best of 14.70, all between 94 and 95 mph. Funny how close 2 cars can be even though they are 35 years apart.
There were like 200k TA made that year. The reason the low number on TA 6.6 was because there were only so many Pontiac 400 engines left. And you could only get 4 speed with that.
Actual TA production for 1979 was 117,108, which made 1979 the highest year for TA production in history, before or since. Pontiac was phasing out the Pontiac 400, so for 1979, they only had 8672 Pontiac 400's left from 1978 to sell, and they were only sold with a 4 speed, as you said. So there were 8672 TA 6.6 Trans Ams with 4 speeds sold in 79. He said 2917 in the video, but he did specify "t-top cars", so the rest were apparently hardtops. Those 79's were the last Pontiac 400 engines sold in a production car. Even the Olds 403, which became the standard engine for the 79 TA(due to there not being enough 400's left), was gone after 1979.
Fantastic! Great to see the 327 in action again. This engine was GM’s main contribution to their muscle cars of the 60’s. So many versions from those used in family sedans to those used in street rods! A great legacy!
Very true! I loved that 327 engine! I had a 64 Impala SS 327. It was bad about breaking motor mounts and cracking the distributor cap, which is located at the rear of the 327 engine. Once I broke mine so bad that 2 cylinders were useless...but the car was still driveable lol. That 327 was a strong and bulletproof little motor.
the gears really matter. i have a 79 trans am, 403 but i modded it with number 5 heads and free flowing x pipe exhaust. better qjet and open scoop. best i did with 3 speed auto and the 2.41s was 14.8 at 95. but after i swapped a 3.23 ws6 axle i found in a junkyard. flat 14 all day at 99mph.
Gearing kept this one close. A smogged-up, low compression 400 that was several hundred LB's heavier was right there with an older, non-smog car that had 4.10's. And the T/A still ran more MPH. Guess they had to keep the gearing down to keep the fuel mileage up. It's amazing how far the smog equipment has come. Putting on a free-flowing exhaust got you low 14's on cars like that T/A. Gears some basic tuning would put you in the 13's with no problem. You could really wake one up with basic mods.
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Im a pontiac guy,i have a 1978 2 door pontiac bonneville hardtop coupe with olds 403. 185hp 320lbs torque i plan on adding dual exhaust to open it up a little. Aweaome vid! Love your channel.
The 1979 trans am was a 16 sec 1/4 mile car.. soo something fishy here! you figure it out... PS: even go to the Pontiac fan club website and you will see a 1979 6.6 trans am does 0-60 in 8.6 and 1/4 mile in 16.6!! i just double checked as no USA made CAR ran a 14 sec 1/4 mile in 1979.. EVEN THE CORVETTE WAS 16.3 1/4 mile.... HECK the smokey and bandit car ran a 16.4 with air taken out of the tires for better traction off the line!!
@@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor Wrong that was the 6.6 403 olds option - the Pontiac TA 6.6 Option ran a 14.6 @ 96 mph - actual test by Hot Rod Magazine - bran new T/A :)
@@1Bandit455 """In February of 1979, Hot Rod magazine tested a Pontiac Engineering prepared "press car". This car had been a warmed over "ringer" as the T/A 6.6 powered 4-speed thundered down the quarter mile in 14.61 seconds @ 96.67 mph. Even HRM admitted that a typical TA of this type could expect time slips in the 15.30 range.""" straight from the Pontiac TA/s club president!
C&Z!! Your commentary and sound effects have changed so much since you started !! Love the showcases!! THEY ARE ALL BEAUTIES and really loved the Avanti!!! KEEP IT UP AND STAY SAFE!!
I owned a 79 T/A with the 403 olds in it. Don't get me wrong, I loved the looks and feel of the car but even with a few mods it wasn't that fast. But for the times, for me it was a cool car.
I had a 1979 Formula with the 403. did some mods, removed the CAT. replaced the Q-Jet meter rods, adjusted the secondary air valve. Full headers dual exhaust with crossover. Ported spark advance. recurved the distributer. 0-60 went from about 8.5 seconds to 6.5. Raced a TA6.6 and won. Only loss was to that Corvette. Also did suspension mods too. Herb Adams. And that car did not weigh no 3900. it was more like 3500. Had that car for 17 years.
Love the channel! Glad to see the 327 impala win. The 327/300 was a great engine and so underrated. I had several in Chevelles and C10...put some big blocks down with them!
Only a moron believes that all small blocks are the same as each other and all big blocks are the same as each other. I drove a true street 10 second Chevelle big block - no similarly modified small block even came close.
Tell that to Bill Jenkins. If the vehicle weight to displacement is the same there is no clear advantage to a big block. Jenkins raced both, but his most successful car was the small block Vega...a 327 I might add.
@@Wilson-cp4gx sure - in a race prepped car running under equalized NHRA rules. Its okay, I'm pretty sure my 1965 Chevelle BB weighed less than your wicked 327 C10 big block slayer. Double okay: I had guys who would brag that they beat me on a stoplight encounter - only to lose to me on a money race. It was fun to let people think they could beat me, and then take money from farm boys with their hot rod pickup trucks.
Excellent PSDR cars: traction is never an issue!!! Must say though, I really appreciate these types of cars...more like what the common man of the day could afford for a Saturday night race!
Those 300 horse 327’s WITH 4 speeds were pretty common in the big Super Sport Impala’s back in the mid sixties. This one is set up well with 4:10 gears and runs very solid mid 14’s. You had to ditch the muncie shift linkages with Hursts because stock linkages would jam on you. This ‘64 is a low rider in waiting. It would get snapped up in a minute in East Los Angeles!
My dad had a 64 impala SS convertible when I was a kid. It looked just like the one in thiss video with white interior. This video made me happy right where is should. Ooohhhhh yaaaaaa
Am I the only one that would love to have one of those trans-ams just with the front clip of a 70-73 firebird? That would give it the coolest modern looking rear, the wraparound glass, the t tops, lower fender flares, and the coolest firebird front end.
Got a friend here in SC that has a 1976 Formula with the 1973 front bumper cover and ram air hood. With the wrap around back window and later model taillamps (though not as cool as the 79-81 taillamps) it makes for a great looking combination and he swapped out to a 455 for the performance to back it up. Great car.
I own four 1979 Trans Ams, one is a 10th Anniversary TA so its fully loaded. That thing cost over $10k when it was new. They all have the 403 and the 10th TA had 2.73 gears. The other three have 2.41s. That 10th is very heavy.. with an actual dual exhaust under the 10th TA it ran 14.7s in the 95mph range way back in 1987. Not bad for a bone stock 403 in a car that is heavier than 4000lbs empty, without the scoop even opened up. It won a lot of races back then, and it went around corners VERY well despite the tall 70 series BFGs I had on it. WS6 works a lot better than most people know. Also 145mph was like a Sunday drive, the faster you go in it the more stable it is, no floating like a Camaro. That was a seriously fun car to have when I was 18, its been sitting since 1988, but I plan to pull it out and rebuild it next year, and probably make that 403 put out some more grunt. An interesting thing? I put the wheels from the 10th on my 79 Formula with a 400 4 speed before I put a 455 in it, those 'turbo' rims are heavy, and they slowed the Formula by a full second in the 1/8th mile. The same thing happened with a 74 Formula 350, lost a full second in the 1/8th. I lightened the 79 Formula a lot, and with an iron head 455 pushing it into the mid 11s with a 3.42 gear, it still weighed 3700lbs empty. Now it has an aluminum headed 467 making over 700hp/tq in it and its been lightened a lot more, so its right at 3100lbs with me in it.. and I am kinda heavy. Ok i am really heavy. The T tops concern me though.. Might put all of that in either a tube car or the 71 Formula 400 I have sitting around. Yeah I have a few Firebirds. They used to be dirt cheap.
@@ztwntyn8 Been thinking I need to do that one either as a street strip/top end half mile car, or as a quick daily driver that has more power than it really should but gets good mileage.. The GTOs I have aren't aero enough to get better than 17-20mpg, the 65 GTO is the worst by far. For the fun toy version the 700hp Butler engine would go in it, maybe with an IAII based 535 under the top end... for science, and a built overdrive trans pushing 2.41 gears, because why not? The amount of grunt that engine is making with just a 1050 on it is kinda ludicrous. Switch to 3.42/3.55 gears for drag racing. Then I can take the 70, put in a healthy 400 or 455 with iron heads and have a nice simple mid 10 second bracket/no prep ride.
Always great. Cars are so different, numbers all over the place between cars in most of these races yet the match ups are spot on and always close runs. Fun fun fun
In 1973, when I was still 15 yrs old, my Grandma bought me my first car...a 1964 Impala SS, 327 4 barrel, Powerglide transmission, (w/center console and floor shift of course), Baby Blue w/chrome reverse wheels & baby moon caps, ...it was a one owner car when I got it. She paid $575 for it. Talk about a Christmas to remember!!! After a while though, I didn't appreciate what I had. The parking lot at school was filled with cars such as SS 396s, 383s, 440s, 289s, 283s, 389s, lots of fast 350s of every GM product you can imagine...even an SS 350 Chevelle! I don't remember any hemis but there probably were a few. Anyway, you don't know what you got till it's gone. I sure wish I had it now! I don't know, I never timed it, but I'd bet my ass it was quicker than this one. I outran my share of muscle cars....lots of 350s, 351s, a Boss 302 Mustang w/ headers that I remember beating twice lol. Thank goodness he was a friend, he was super pissed lol...he hit another guy in the face for laughing about it lol. Those were the good ole days and I miss 'em. I hope Heaven has a 1970s section that we can all hang out in.
Minus the red interior, I’ve loved those aaTA’s since I was a kid. Pearl white being my preference. I believe an inter cooled turbo on that 6.6 would make angels sing
The reason the numbers are low for a TA 6.6 powered TA is that Pontiac only stockpile a certain numbers of 400 engines for the 1979 run. The last 400 was built in 1978 engine run. They wanted to reserve all the 400 that were slated for the 10th anniversary 1979 TAs. Why they didn't offer the TA 6.6 in the Turbo 350 in 1979 is beyond me.
There were fewer 400 engines available for 1979 because GM stockpiled them from the 1978 model year, and priority was given to LE and SE cars first as they were high profit. Cannot compare these two cars really as the Trans Am had to meet emission standards, the Chevrolet did not. If you uncorked the Trans Am, I think you would see the numbers improve.
Fun race to watch. As a hard core Mopar fan, I gotta admit 1960's Impala's are cool car's. I was just a wee lad when they were new. The Tran's Am is nice too. I would love to see a '64 409 Impala SS vs a '64 426 wedge Sport Fury race or a '77 Tran's Am vs '77 360 Volare Road Runner, Aspen RT, or Mustang ll Cobra.
My aunt and uncle shared a yellow 1964 Impala Super Sport. I remembered it well. One of my uncles coworkers wanted to borrow it. Uncle asked him "what are you going to do with it?" He said I'm gonna go a rompin and a stompin!😁
My Dad has a 79 Trans Am in silver, 6.6 liter, original rims, no t top. It got hit by a tree when he bought it and hasn’t ran since. We also used to have a 79 Esprit, 301 seized up, replaced it with a 350. Sold it to his friend who restored a 79 Formula, 406 V8. He is now restoring a 79 Camaro, I think it’s a 350
@@josephmercurio1024 No. I don’t favor any manufacturer and have owned almost everything. If certain brands do not show up for race day, then obviously there is no footage. And yes, I do have footage of a real deal Boss 429. It wasn’t as fast as you think.
I had that trans am in gold with gold t tops. With an erson cam and a 650 double pumper, it took for ever to find the right manifold. And it took forever to get the holly tuned right, it was fun to drive and would suprise most stock GT mustang's.
He should have "taken the restrictor plate off to give the Red Dragon a little more juice." The Screaming Chicken may have not one but I'd still take it. But I'm a Pontiac guy.... So glad I found your channel!
Love both cars. The 64 for its simplicity and the Trans Am for its flash. I expected a little more from the poncho but I believe the rules don't allow for opening the shaker and its likely gasping for air at the big end.
True, the shaker was really restricting it,but it was also trying to breathe through a single exhaust. Open the shaker and put true dual exhaust on it,and you will see a different car.
My 65 malibu 138 car was a 327 /375 horse with a 2 speed and 278.1 rear gear pig . But the guy based the engine well. I got the car in 1980 and worked on it for 2 years on a build with my dad, at tyebend 430 hp 396 ft lbs 400 autoand 12 bolt narrowed with 410.1 rear gear ,then she did the deal , very fast car. Miss her more than the ex i gave the car up for
I'd take that 327 in that '64 Impala all day long. I knew a lot guys whose first car was a used '64 Impala with the 327 and four on the floor. They were common and affordable for a young guy starting out. Plenty of room for groceries and a real back seat in case you got lucky.
I had a 79 T/A 6.6 litre (403 Olds). I ordered a T/A 6.6 4 speed in June of ‘78 and when it came in around March of 79 the dealer pulled a fast one and raised the price (totally illegal, I had a deposit and contract). They didn’t contact me and I checked regularly bec it was unusually a long time to wait. As it turned out they were only going to get one or the most two with the 400 Pontiac (T/A 6.6) so they wanted over list price. They got mine because I ordered it so early. All others came with 403 bec Pontiac wasn’t making the 400 anymore, they only had 2000, basically left over from ‘78. I was only 27 and didn’t know much and let them get away with it and just let it go and got the 403 auto from another dealer (I was a jerk for letting them do that to me). Happened to be same color, Mayan red, as in the video. 185 hp but rated 385 torque at low rpm. Max hp was at 3600 rpm. It was basically a Olds station wagon engine made for that platform and large 98 and 88 olds sedans. It ran out of breathe at about 85, however decent acceleration for the times. After getting smoked by a 79 302 Mustang after 85, I took the catalytic converter off and opened the fake hood scoop, put leaded gas in it and it brought it to life in the high speed range. That would’ve beat that mustang and it did beat a ‘79 Z28 on the top end that I happened to race.
I had a ninety eight Oldsmobile with the 403, 400 turbo transmission. I used to dominate the strip in my city. Lost 2races in a year. Monte Carlo had a 455 and my Brother, he had a 69 Chevelle with a 402 4speed. 1st gear to 50 mph second gear to 75 then drive to 110. On the freeway though it would go much much faster. Raced a mustang from Akron to Cleveland at 3am took 17 mins. Had him all the way.
BUT was it the 300 horse version with big ol Carter AFB carb and dual exhaust? Thats the question of the day! I’ll forgive Dad for not getting the 4 speed.
@@christianmotley262 Obviously yours didn't. She told me last as I was putting my clothes on and leaving her place after , well, you know , bumping uglies.
Love the Trans Am, but my dad had a 62 Bel Air with a 327. I knew how this would end. I really didn't think it would be as close as it was. The late 70's were awful for performance cars in the United States. My Dad always liked Chevy cars, I always preferred a Pontiac. Went down as I expected. No tears on my end...
I had a 1979 Trans Am automatic with the Olds 403 engine. That car was a great for for my then girlfriend at the time even though she said it was a piece of shit but as far as a performance stand point it was a DUD with a capital DUD!!! My brother had a '75 T/A with a 455 5 speed and the difference was night and day. His car was fast mine only looked fast. My girlfriends brother had a '78 and he could smoke mine, difference being he had a 400 Pontiac I didnt. End result is the 403 Olds is a non performer.
Back in the late 80s I helped a dude swap a cam in a 403 in a bird. A lifter puller and 2 cans of wd and 6 hours later they came out. What a bitch having to wash em down after pushing them up and down some because of the damn sludge buildup. That's a previous owners screw up but it still sucked. Even after that ,since it was a mild cam it still was a pig.
The main reason your 79 Olds 403 TA was slower was because the standard rearend ratio in your car was 2.41. Excellent for highway driving and mileage, but not so good on take off. So, I'd bet all those other cars had better rear gear ratios than yours, since you can't get worse than 2.41's for racing. Change out your rear gears to something like 3.42's or higher number, and you'd see a big difference. Your brother's 75 TA 455 5 speed could not be original, since they didn't come with 5 speeds in 1975, only 4 speeds.
I've got a 79 TA in yello with an auto and a 68-70 455 olds under the hood I love it tho it's a hoot to drive needs some major tune ups I will say if the trans am had the optional 3.73 rear gears It would be beating the impala every time. it consistently went 1MPH faster
The Impala has the wrong engine badge on the front fender. The plain V flag badge was for a 283 engine. Likely what that car was born with a 283 engine and the owner upgraded to a 327 when restoring it. The proper badge is the same V flag with a "327" above it, just so the neighbors would know you had the better engine.
Chevy didn't put 327 emblems above the V (with Flags) emblems until the 1965 model year. 1964 327s had V with flags only. 1964 Chevy 283s had only the V emblem with no flags.
@@rsstrazz6261 You are correct. In 64 the 327 would have had the V with Flags. Not sure what brain cells are going bad, since I have an example in my garage. I should have remembered that well.
Goodday C & Z, I was extremely impressed with the Impala. All things considered 14 sec with a small block, & aerodynamic as a brick in a wind tunnel well done to the Impala. Not a big fan of the T/A , comfort cruiser. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
@@CarsAndZebras Same here, since I can't email you check out on RUclips 1971 Chrysler Valiant Charger Experimental. Great video, on the Aussie Charger. You need one of those over in the states to run down the strip. I think the E 49 Charger is the only Mopar that I know that has more than 1hp per cubic inch. 265 cubic inch Hemi making 305 hp. Well actually more like 340 hp from the factory. If you know of any other please let me know.
Are these cars stock? Not just these but the test of of them. Some of the times these cars run like the 427 vettes and camaros and even 340 dusters run times that are hard to believe are from stock cars.
@Garrison Nichols Haha I did a take out last night at the diner and the wife wanted a milkshake. One sip and she's like : this ain't no McDonald's crap 🤣🤣
As a 78 T/A from CA owner......i cry when people talk about power numbers. at least it looks good and im the second owner after my dad. i got that going for me
I've had both cars. They are completely different animals. Chevy had nothing in 1979 to match the bigger engined Pontiac, but the Vette & Camaro were close. The Chevy had an upgraded 4.10 rear, while the TA was stock. Had he upgraded the gears also, it wouldn't be a race. Much of the extra weight is emissions equipment, which was non-existent in '64. My '81 TA ran low 15's when I got it, but by then the auto manufacturers had given up on engines & tuning, & were focused exclusively on style & fuel economy. I'm hoping to see 12's next year, with a few upgrades to my factory turbo 301. I too am partly here for the incredible flatulence!
Always thought of the Chevy 327 as one of their better Motors. To move a big boat like that to those ETS and MPH is really impressive. Even though it's lighter than the Trans Am there's a lot more mass to move.
Hey I worked on the Pontiac cars in a dealership. They are what I call plastic cars. The compression ratio what a joke ! I squeezed some extra hp out of a 305 cid when I rebuilt it 84 Trans am . It had twin tbi swirl port intake manifold cowl induction . Oh yeah glory days . I was always sweet on the 77 trans am 400 4 speed screaming eagle on the hood .
I had two of those trans Ams. When I got my first one people made fun of me and I said “ hey, I’m gonna get a bj in this car you just wait” and I did get one, and she became my wife. Good looking woman too. I’d rank her as an olds cutlass supreme 455 sx car. Classy but badass with still plenty of muscle under the hood and a great looking rear end if you know what I mean... reliable too and doesn’t come with daddy issues like a mopar. Actually still married too her and I guess you could say she’s my daily.
I guess you could say these cars are....... Old School 😎
You know what else is Old School? My delicious crispy, fresh fries. And I want to put them in your mouth.
You missed the opportunity to bust out FRANK THE TANK when talking about the heavy T/A... but the extended fart was excellent.
Is KFC open?
I like the 65 impala and even the 66 and 67 but I never got the appeal of the 64. It's way too boxy. The 64 Ford Galaxy is very sweet tho. I love the sculpture of it and you could get the police interceptor option engines.
Ba-dum tiss
a car from the beginning of the muscle car era and the last breath of it, all in one race
Agreed
Very well said
Pretty much said it all, there.
Best comment award!
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the quickest time i ever saw for a '79 WS6 W-72 400 was a 14.6@96mph all stock. it was the quickest domestic car in '79, even beating out the '79 L-82 Corvette.
As much as I loved every Trans Am I had the past 45 yrs the Dodge Lil Red Express truck {always wanted one} was the fastest vehicle 2 yrs in a row 1978-79!
I had a new beige/brown '62 Chevy Impala SS that had the 327 300 HP. Fairly decent car until it was stolen and wrecked 18 months later. I replaced it with a new all options red/black '63 Ford Galaxie XL 390 4 speed convertible from TASCA Ford in RI. I still have that car today and it's in near perfect showroom condition despite its age. Only driven during warm weather months. It's never been driven during winter months.
I had a 79 403 T/A . I put headers , RV cam, Edelbrock intake , then replaced the dreadful 2.41 rear gears ( put in 3.70 gears ) and added a 700R4 trans - the car ran 14.0 @99 mph .
Then I swapped to the W-31 Ralleye 350 heads and my best time was 13.4 @104. It also got 22 Mpg on the freeway . Great car - wished I kept it , but had a lot of fun from 1989-2002 .
The only time in a magazine for a 79 403 T/A with the 2.41 gears bone stock ran 17.06 @80 mph .
I think Car and Driver got a 15.2 @93 mph - out of a bone stock 4 speed 400 back in 79.
damn that t/a had all the good options...W72, WS6, hood chicken, and an 8track! baller!
Pretty much everything outside of the 10th anniversary edition!
@Steven Sosebee When I was a child I was told that anything with an EGR valve was crap!
I had that same 79 TA Nocturne blue 4spd 4wdisc Pontiac 400. After cat converter removal, reJet Quadrajet, & curved distributor, 93 octane, I could run consistent 14:68 on the GYear tires from factory. Shot nos one time, in 2nd gear only for a 14:30et
bad rear end..on ta
@@joebryan2135 nope, other than needing to add “whale oil” additive when changing the axle fluid, to stop a clunking noise in the rear end on turns, which was common-I had zero problems out of my rear end. Positractraction always worked, even when chirping the tires in 2nd 3rd & sometimes 4th. I never put slicks on, but i did end up cracking the Borg Warner T-10 transmission case in two. I street raced my car on the weekends as well as bracket racing Saturday and Sundays. That clunking noise in the rear end may have in fact caused many people to replace the rear end not realizing all that was needed was a fluid change or did not hear the clunking noise and end up destroying the axle. I my axle held up under all the racing I did, they were sufficient for mildly over stock mods 👌
The Pontiac TransAm was the best performance car of the late 70's. It was even a better overall sports car than the Corvette. RIP Pontiac.
The Dodge Lil Red Express Truck was supposedly the fastest car/truck of the Late 70,s had a 360 Mopar.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 But it didn't handle as well as the TransAm.
@@andyharman3022 you got that right
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 It wasn't, though. Dodge gave a ringer to C&D and it ran pretty good, but the production ones were about a second slower.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 78 - 79 W72 400 T/A was Quicker - Hot Rod Magazine tested a Bran new 79 W72 400 4 spd T/A ran a 14.6 @ 96 mph . Test of Lil Red Express truck ran a 15.7 @ 88 mph - just google Dodge Connection
Four-barrel 327 Chevy cars were as common as dirt in the 1960's. You could never take beating one for granted though. Chevrolet made some screamer 327's, and you could never be sure which one you were running against, even in barges like this one. For most of the 1960's, 327's were the hot Chevy small block. 350's didn't appear until 1967, and they were only available in Camaros when they first came out. Nice video.
Back in high school, 85/86, I had a 79 10th Anniversary Trans Am with a 400/4 speed. It had a whopping 21k miles on it when I got it. I put a better exhaust on it (true duals, no cat) and put some richer secondary metering rods in the carb. Other than that it was 100% stock. I raced it very regularly and it ran consistent 14.80s with a best of 14.70, all between 94 and 95 mph. Funny how close 2 cars can be even though they are 35 years apart.
I really appreciate your comment for some reason
There were like 200k TA made that year. The reason the low number on TA 6.6 was because there were only so many Pontiac 400 engines left. And you could only get 4 speed with that.
Interesting fact.
Actual TA production for 1979 was 117,108, which made 1979 the highest year for TA production in history, before or since. Pontiac was phasing out the Pontiac 400, so for 1979, they only had 8672 Pontiac 400's left from 1978 to sell, and they were only sold with a 4 speed, as you said. So there were 8672 TA 6.6 Trans Ams with 4 speeds sold in 79. He said 2917 in the video, but he did specify "t-top cars", so the rest were apparently hardtops. Those 79's were the last Pontiac 400 engines sold in a production car. Even the Olds 403, which became the standard engine for the 79 TA(due to there not being enough 400's left), was gone after 1979.
Fantastic! Great to see the 327 in action again. This engine was GM’s main contribution to their muscle cars of the 60’s. So many versions from those used in family sedans to those used in street rods! A great legacy!
Very true! I loved that 327 engine! I had a 64 Impala SS 327. It was bad about breaking motor mounts and cracking the distributor cap, which is located at the rear of the 327 engine. Once I broke mine so bad that 2 cylinders were useless...but the car was still driveable lol.
That 327 was a strong and bulletproof little motor.
@@chevyblue10 There was a recall for those defective motor mounts that applied to '58-'64 Chevy V8 cars.
The Trans Am picked up more girls at the roller dome. I had a 79 WS6 black T/A. Chicks loved that car. I miss it. 😞
The T/A did pretty good despite being a smog motor lugging an extra 200lbs.
That was actually amazing car if you got the w72 with the four-speed for that time period
Still rather have the TA...it just looks so cool...
Both are very different, but each great. Completely opposite ends of the muscle car era.
True, the beginning and the end
the gears really matter. i have a 79 trans am, 403 but i modded it with number 5 heads and free flowing x pipe exhaust. better qjet and open scoop. best i did with 3 speed auto and the 2.41s was 14.8 at 95. but after i swapped a 3.23 ws6 axle i found in a junkyard. flat 14 all day at 99mph.
Gearing kept this one close. A smogged-up, low compression 400 that was several hundred LB's heavier was right there with an older, non-smog car that had 4.10's. And the T/A still ran more MPH. Guess they had to keep the gearing down to keep the fuel mileage up.
It's amazing how far the smog equipment has come. Putting on a free-flowing exhaust got you low 14's on cars like that T/A. Gears some basic tuning would put you in the 13's with no problem. You could really wake one up with basic mods.
The 327 you can really wind up in rpms,I owned a 64 with 327ci I wish it had a three sp transmission instead of the 2sp
Dude needs to take the restrictor plate of the ol' RED DRAGON, give it a little more juice.
HA! I was waiting for that comment.
He would do that, but it’s not exactly street legal
Let's just keep that on the down low its not exactly "street legal"
I might do a segment in the future videos featuring the best/funniest (maybe even the worst) comments, so make sure you leave a comment if you think you got what it takes!
Challenge accepted.😎
Get any car to race the 427 side oiler with the high riser heads or tunnel port like against 440 hemi
he said "glutton"...LOL...making "bad decisions"
Im a pontiac guy,i have a 1978 2 door pontiac bonneville hardtop coupe with olds 403. 185hp 320lbs torque i plan on adding dual exhaust to open it up a little. Aweaome vid! Love your channel.
Thanks for watching!
Put in some pistons to up the compression ratio and a mild cam... that big bore short stroke 403" likes to rev...
You have a Butt Neked car. Big Pontiac fan here. 81 T/A 5.0 Hurst 4 Speed. In the barn
@@buttneked3963 lol I know man,I know you have a monster lurking over there. Lol
Love That Trans Am
It’s an incredibly clean car!
@@CarsAndZebras it sure is
The 1979 trans am was a 16 sec 1/4 mile car.. soo something fishy here! you figure it out... PS: even go to the Pontiac fan club website and you will see a 1979 6.6 trans am does 0-60 in 8.6 and 1/4 mile in 16.6!! i just double checked as no USA made CAR ran a 14 sec 1/4 mile in 1979.. EVEN THE CORVETTE WAS 16.3 1/4 mile.... HECK the smokey and bandit car ran a 16.4 with air taken out of the tires for better traction off the line!!
@@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor Wrong that was the 6.6 403 olds option - the Pontiac TA 6.6 Option ran a 14.6 @ 96 mph - actual test by Hot Rod Magazine - bran new T/A :)
@@1Bandit455 """In February of 1979, Hot Rod magazine tested a Pontiac Engineering prepared "press car". This car had been a warmed over "ringer" as the T/A 6.6 powered 4-speed thundered down the quarter mile in 14.61 seconds @ 96.67 mph. Even HRM admitted that a typical TA of this type could expect time slips in the 15.30 range.""" straight from the Pontiac TA/s club president!
C&Z!! Your commentary and sound effects have changed so much since you started !! Love the showcases!! THEY ARE ALL BEAUTIES and really loved the Avanti!!! KEEP IT UP AND STAY SAFE!!
I owned a 79 T/A with the 403 olds in it. Don't get me wrong, I loved the looks and feel of the car but even with a few mods it wasn't that fast. But for the times, for me it was a cool car.
Same car with the Pontiac 400/4spd was a total different animal. I NEVER lost to a 403 TA
I had a 1979 Formula with the 403. did some mods, removed the CAT. replaced the Q-Jet meter rods, adjusted the secondary air valve. Full headers dual exhaust with crossover. Ported spark advance. recurved the distributer. 0-60 went from about 8.5 seconds to 6.5. Raced a TA6.6 and won. Only loss was to that Corvette. Also did suspension mods too. Herb Adams. And that car did not weigh no 3900. it was more like 3500. Had that car for 17 years.
Love the channel! Glad to see the 327 impala win. The 327/300 was a great engine and so underrated. I had several in Chevelles and C10...put some big blocks down with them!
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With 4:11 s it should have done better.
Only a moron believes that all small blocks are the same as each other and all big blocks are the same as each other. I drove a true street 10 second Chevelle big block - no similarly modified small block even came close.
Tell that to Bill Jenkins. If the vehicle weight to displacement is the same there is no clear advantage to a big block. Jenkins raced both, but his most successful car was the small block Vega...a 327 I might add.
@@Wilson-cp4gx sure - in a race prepped car running under equalized NHRA rules. Its okay, I'm pretty sure my 1965 Chevelle BB weighed less than your wicked 327 C10 big block slayer. Double okay: I had guys who would brag that they beat me on a stoplight encounter - only to lose to me on a money race. It was fun to let people think they could beat me, and then take money from farm boys with their hot rod pickup trucks.
Excellent PSDR cars: traction is never an issue!!!
Must say though, I really appreciate these types of cars...more like what the common man of the day could afford for a Saturday night race!
True, both fairly easy to launch!
I always enjoy your videos!!! Thanks for posting!👍🏻🇺🇸
Those 300 horse 327’s WITH 4 speeds were pretty common in the big Super Sport Impala’s back in the mid sixties. This one is set up well with 4:10 gears and runs very solid mid 14’s. You had to ditch the muncie shift linkages with Hursts because stock linkages would jam on you. This ‘64 is a low rider in waiting. It would get snapped up in a minute in East Los Angeles!
The Trans am was honestly the last true big displacement sports car of the era
You are spot on. The other stuff out there was crap.
Not to mention years later both the 400 and 403 can get well in to the 370-400 go when properly modded
I got a 77 with the Pontiac 400. Just dyno’d at 402 hp.
@@alanbiagini3016 mine needs a serious tune up but I've got an Olds 455
@@alanbiagini3016 is it stock?
My dad had a 64 impala SS convertible when I was a kid. It looked just like the one in thiss video with white interior. This video made me happy right where is should. Ooohhhhh yaaaaaa
Am I the only one that would love to have one of those trans-ams just with the front clip of a 70-73 firebird? That would give it the coolest modern looking rear, the wraparound glass, the t tops, lower fender flares, and the coolest firebird front end.
Got a friend here in SC that has a 1976 Formula with the 1973 front bumper cover and ram air hood. With the wrap around back window and later model taillamps (though not as cool as the 79-81 taillamps) it makes for a great looking combination and he swapped out to a 455 for the performance to back it up. Great car.
I bought new a 1978 Trans Am with the TA 6.6 Eng., 4 speed, 3.42 gears, i ran a 14.10 at 100 mph. i did add headers on my car.
Nice - Uncork those W72 400's they'll get up and go :)
Darn interesting matchup. Great content with great humor. Thank you, stay safe👍
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I own four 1979 Trans Ams, one is a 10th Anniversary TA so its fully loaded. That thing cost over $10k when it was new. They all have the 403 and the 10th TA had 2.73 gears. The other three have 2.41s. That 10th is very heavy.. with an actual dual exhaust under the 10th TA it ran 14.7s in the 95mph range way back in 1987. Not bad for a bone stock 403 in a car that is heavier than 4000lbs empty, without the scoop even opened up. It won a lot of races back then, and it went around corners VERY well despite the tall 70 series BFGs I had on it. WS6 works a lot better than most people know. Also 145mph was like a Sunday drive, the faster you go in it the more stable it is, no floating like a Camaro. That was a seriously fun car to have when I was 18, its been sitting since 1988, but I plan to pull it out and rebuild it next year, and probably make that 403 put out some more grunt.
An interesting thing? I put the wheels from the 10th on my 79 Formula with a 400 4 speed before I put a 455 in it, those 'turbo' rims are heavy, and they slowed the Formula by a full second in the 1/8th mile. The same thing happened with a 74 Formula 350, lost a full second in the 1/8th. I lightened the 79 Formula a lot, and with an iron head 455 pushing it into the mid 11s with a 3.42 gear, it still weighed 3700lbs empty. Now it has an aluminum headed 467 making over 700hp/tq in it and its been lightened a lot more, so its right at 3100lbs with me in it.. and I am kinda heavy. Ok i am really heavy. The T tops concern me though.. Might put all of that in either a tube car or the 71 Formula 400 I have sitting around. Yeah I have a few Firebirds. They used to be dirt cheap.
Checkout my 71 formula 400 vid drag racing. Use the 71 lol it’s my fav
@@ztwntyn8 Been thinking I need to do that one either as a street strip/top end half mile car, or as a quick daily driver that has more power than it really should but gets good mileage.. The GTOs I have aren't aero enough to get better than 17-20mpg, the 65 GTO is the worst by far.
For the fun toy version the 700hp Butler engine would go in it, maybe with an IAII based 535 under the top end... for science, and a built overdrive trans pushing 2.41 gears, because why not? The amount of grunt that engine is making with just a 1050 on it is kinda ludicrous. Switch to 3.42/3.55 gears for drag racing.
Then I can take the 70, put in a healthy 400 or 455 with iron heads and have a nice simple mid 10 second bracket/no prep ride.
Always great. Cars are so different, numbers all over the place between cars in most of these races yet the match ups are spot on and always close runs. Fun fun fun
In 1973, when I was still 15 yrs old, my Grandma bought me my first car...a 1964 Impala SS, 327 4 barrel, Powerglide transmission, (w/center console and floor shift of course), Baby Blue w/chrome reverse wheels & baby moon caps, ...it was a one owner car when I got it. She paid $575 for it.
Talk about a Christmas to remember!!! After a while though, I didn't appreciate what I had. The parking lot at school was filled with cars such as SS 396s, 383s, 440s, 289s, 283s, 389s, lots of fast 350s of every GM product you can imagine...even an SS 350 Chevelle! I don't remember any hemis but there probably were a few.
Anyway, you don't know what you got till it's gone. I sure wish I had it now!
I don't know, I never timed it, but I'd bet my ass it was quicker than this one. I outran my share of muscle cars....lots of 350s, 351s, a Boss 302 Mustang w/ headers that I remember beating twice lol. Thank goodness he was a friend, he was super pissed lol...he hit another guy in the face for laughing about it lol.
Those were the good ole days and I miss 'em. I hope Heaven has a 1970s section that we can all hang out in.
Minus the red interior, I’ve loved those aaTA’s since I was a kid. Pearl white being my preference. I believe an inter cooled turbo on that 6.6 would make angels sing
I sold a lot of Trans Ams in 1979 😊
Dang, both are quicker than I thought. Good race.
The 4.10 gears really woke up the Impala.
I am such a child. I think your videos are hilarious. I love the sound effects
The reason the numbers are low for a TA 6.6 powered TA is that Pontiac only stockpile a certain numbers of 400 engines for the 1979 run. The last 400 was built in 1978 engine run. They wanted to reserve all the 400 that were slated for the 10th anniversary 1979 TAs. Why they didn't offer the TA 6.6 in the Turbo 350 in 1979 is beyond me.
The 327 had options up to 375 HP and was always known as the little engine that could. Thumb up.
Bruce Allen, only in the Corvette.
There were fewer 400 engines available for 1979 because GM stockpiled them from the 1978 model year, and priority was given to LE and SE cars first as they were high profit. Cannot compare these two cars really as the Trans Am had to meet emission standards, the Chevrolet did not. If you uncorked the Trans Am, I think you would see the numbers improve.
They sold W72 Firebird Formula 400s in '79, they were really rare.
@@hendo337 Yup, only around 300+ of them were made. Very rare.
Hilarious! I would still take the TA - and I don’t need the T-tops.
Good video glad 2 hear u!
Fun race to watch. As a hard core Mopar fan, I gotta admit 1960's Impala's are cool car's. I was just a wee lad when they were new. The Tran's Am is nice too.
I would love to see a '64 409 Impala SS vs a '64 426 wedge Sport Fury race or a '77 Tran's Am vs '77 360 Volare Road Runner, Aspen RT, or Mustang ll Cobra.
My aunt and uncle shared a yellow 1964 Impala Super Sport. I remembered it well. One of my uncles coworkers wanted to borrow it. Uncle asked him "what are you going to do with it?" He said I'm gonna go a rompin and a stompin!😁
My Dad has a 79 Trans Am in silver, 6.6 liter, original rims, no t top. It got hit by a tree when he bought it and hasn’t ran since. We also used to have a 79 Esprit, 301 seized up, replaced it with a 350. Sold it to his friend who restored a 79 Formula, 406 V8. He is now restoring a 79 Camaro, I think it’s a 350
Wonder what makes the TA so heavy especially compared to the Impala. '62 bubble top 409 is my favorite from the early ones.
Government required cement blocks in the trunk.
@@ripvanrevs good one!
Safety bullshit
the ttops and a/c didn't help
All the luxo stuff now, power everything, bucket seats t-top, ac, console, safety stuff, emissions crap
You just cannot beat the Chevy 265-283-327-350 engine. That 327/300 combo was smooth and quick; had one in 1964, as well. Nice job.
don’t 4get the 400 small block Bill. They are monsters when prepared correctly!
I'm surprised either car won.
yeah, I thought they’d hug it out
Surprised either car won- that’s f...ing funny!
My dad had one in blue in 1979 and it seemed fast. My Honda Accord is fast.
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@@jesseballard4753 Dark times indeed during the Disco era.
@@briansd2772 the funk got to them
Awsome vídeo dude but i'm still waiting for a Mustang BOSS 429... (Just kidding)
You re awsome
@@josephmercurio1024 No. I don’t favor any manufacturer and have owned almost everything. If certain brands do not show up for race day, then obviously there is no footage. And yes, I do have footage of a real deal Boss 429. It wasn’t as fast as you think.
@@josephmercurio1024 Boss 429's really weren't that fast
I would love to see that
@@CarsAndZebras I wish you would Replay that race I'd like to watch and see what the Boss 429 could do
What a fantastic race
Had a lot of fun in a 65 300hp Chevelle. Great small block.
Just was wondering if you ever considered featuring The factory appearing cars on your channel love your channel by the way keep up the good work
Love that Impala !
... Chattanooga PD's still trying to catch my 64ss ....outran them many a night .... damn it , dad sold it for $300 while I was away in the army....
If the T/A had a 3:42 instead of a 3:23 it would of been a better combo
I had that trans am in gold with gold t tops. With an erson cam and a 650 double pumper, it took for ever to find the right manifold. And it took forever to get the holly tuned right, it was fun to drive and would suprise most stock GT mustang's.
They both ran good times
My beautiful 1964 Chevy Impala SS. I sure wish it was mine.
The TA is exactly the car I use in GT6, color,t-tops, rims. Love the look.
He should have "taken the restrictor plate off to give the Red Dragon a little more juice."
The Screaming Chicken may have not one but I'd still take it. But I'm a Pontiac guy.... So glad I found your channel!
Love both cars. The 64 for its simplicity and the Trans Am for its flash. I expected a little more from the poncho but I believe the rules don't allow for opening the shaker and its likely gasping for air at the big end.
True, the shaker was really restricting it,but it was also trying to breathe through a single exhaust. Open the shaker and put true dual exhaust on it,and you will see a different car.
@@patricktenn7996 True enough my friend true enough. But the rules are the rules.
My 65 malibu 138 car was a 327 /375 horse with a 2 speed and 278.1 rear gear pig . But the guy based the engine well. I got the car in 1980 and worked on it for 2 years on a build with my dad, at tyebend 430 hp 396 ft lbs 400 autoand 12 bolt narrowed with 410.1 rear gear ,then she did the deal , very fast car. Miss her more than the ex i gave the car up for
Imagine the 409 under the hood , it would make the TA look like it's standing still
imagine if the FB owner swapped in a ‘70 Ram Air IV motor vs that 409 W motor you prescribe?? Just dreamin!
You could get a 409 in 64
You could not get a jam air 3 low rpm. Pontiac engine in 79. Turd
76 TA. 400 ...200 hp. They don't impress me.
I'd take that 327 in that '64 Impala all day long. I knew a lot guys whose first car was a used '64 Impala with the 327 and four on the floor. They were common and affordable for a young guy starting out. Plenty of room for groceries and a real back seat in case you got lucky.
I had a 79 T/A 6.6 litre (403 Olds). I ordered a T/A 6.6 4 speed in June of ‘78 and when it came in around March of 79 the dealer pulled a fast one and raised the price (totally illegal, I had a deposit and contract). They didn’t contact me and I checked regularly bec it was unusually a long time to wait. As it turned out they were only going to get one or the most two with the 400 Pontiac (T/A 6.6) so they wanted over list price. They got mine because I ordered it so early. All others came with 403 bec Pontiac wasn’t making the 400 anymore, they only had 2000, basically left over from ‘78. I was only 27 and didn’t know much and let them get away with it and just let it go and got the 403 auto from another dealer (I was a jerk for letting them do that to me). Happened to be same color, Mayan red, as in the video. 185 hp but rated 385 torque at low rpm. Max hp was at 3600 rpm. It was basically a Olds station wagon engine made for that platform and large 98 and 88 olds sedans. It ran out of breathe at about 85, however decent acceleration for the times. After getting smoked by a 79 302 Mustang after 85, I took the catalytic converter off and opened the fake hood scoop, put leaded gas in it and it brought it to life in the high speed range. That would’ve beat that mustang and it did beat a ‘79 Z28 on the top end that I happened to race.
I had a ninety eight Oldsmobile with the 403, 400 turbo transmission. I used to dominate the strip in my city. Lost 2races in a year. Monte Carlo had a 455 and my Brother, he had a 69 Chevelle with a 402 4speed.
1st gear to 50 mph second gear to 75 then drive to 110. On the freeway though it would go much much faster.
Raced a mustang from Akron to Cleveland at 3am took 17 mins. Had him all the way.
I drove my parents 63 Bel-Air with a 327 and powerglide. Damned fast for the era.
BUT was it the 300 horse version with big ol Carter AFB carb and dual exhaust? Thats the question of the day! I’ll forgive Dad for not getting the 4 speed.
My grandpa had a 63 Impala SS 409 canary yellow with a white drop top and it got totaled out in AZ.
I have 78 trans am with a 327 Chevy. It's getting put back together now.
That’s the gayest thing I seen in a while
@@fastmachines500r8 No worse than a Mustang with any motor.
That's a Beautiful Impala #ChevyGuy #TeamChevy 🏁🛠
Here for the flatulence.
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Did your mother have any kids that lived?
@@christianmotley262
Obviously yours didn't.
She told me last as I was putting my clothes on and leaving her place after , well, you know , bumping uglies.
Love the Trans Am, but my dad had a 62 Bel Air with a 327. I knew how this would end. I really didn't think it would be as close as it was. The late 70's were awful for performance cars in the United States. My Dad always liked Chevy cars, I always preferred a Pontiac. Went down as I expected. No tears on my end...
I had a 1979 Trans Am automatic with the Olds 403 engine. That car was a great for for my then girlfriend at the time even though she said it was a piece of shit but as far as a performance stand point it was a DUD with a capital DUD!!! My brother had a '75 T/A with a 455 5 speed and the difference was night and day. His car was fast mine only looked fast. My girlfriends brother had a '78 and he could smoke mine, difference being he had a 400 Pontiac I didnt. End result is the 403 Olds is a non performer.
Back in the late 80s I helped a dude swap a cam in a 403 in a bird.
A lifter puller and 2 cans of wd and 6 hours later they came out.
What a bitch having to wash em down after pushing them up and down some because of the damn sludge buildup.
That's a previous owners screw up but it still sucked.
Even after that ,since it was a mild cam it still was a pig.
The main reason your 79 Olds 403 TA was slower was because the standard rearend ratio in your car was 2.41. Excellent for highway driving and mileage, but not so good on take off. So, I'd bet all those other cars had better rear gear ratios than yours, since you can't get worse than 2.41's for racing. Change out your rear gears to something like 3.42's or higher number, and you'd see a big difference. Your brother's 75 TA 455 5 speed could not be original, since they didn't come with 5 speeds in 1975, only 4 speeds.
Before they take off I call the 1964 Chevy Impala super sport
Put a cam in that 327 and 350 heads you want to talk about a mover and a shaker they'll pull the front wheels off then
I've got a 79 TA in yello with an auto and a 68-70 455 olds under the hood I love it tho it's a hoot to drive needs some major tune ups
I will say if the trans am had the optional 3.73 rear gears It would be beating the impala every time. it consistently went 1MPH faster
Man I really want a yellow second gen. I have a white 80 turbo t/a but something about a yellow 77-78 has me aww struck🔥🤙
One of your funniest videos.
And definitely the longest fart I have ever heard 🤣
The Impala has the wrong engine badge on the front fender. The plain V flag badge was for a 283 engine. Likely what that car was born with a 283 engine and the owner upgraded to a 327 when restoring it. The proper badge is the same V flag with a "327" above it, just so the neighbors would know you had the better engine.
Chevy didn't put 327 emblems above the V (with Flags) emblems until the 1965 model year. 1964 327s had V with flags only. 1964 Chevy 283s had only the V emblem with no flags.
@@rsstrazz6261 You are correct. In 64 the 327 would have had the V with Flags. Not sure what brain cells are going bad, since I have an example in my garage. I should have remembered that well.
I had a 64SS back in the mid/late 80's. Had a 406 in it. I miss it, was fun to drive.
You had a ford Fe in it damn
@@anthonyanderson464 lol. I’ve seen weirder combos but no, .030 over 400 sb.
I bet than 406ci SS Impala got with the program for sure !
Goodday C & Z,
I was extremely impressed with the Impala. All things considered 14 sec with a small block, & aerodynamic as a brick in a wind tunnel well done to the Impala.
Not a big fan of the T/A , comfort cruiser.
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Great video, on the Aussie Charger.
You need one of those over in the states to run down the strip.
I think the E 49 Charger is the only Mopar that I know that has more than 1hp per cubic inch.
265 cubic inch Hemi making 305 hp.
Well actually more like 340 hp from the factory.
If you know of any other please let me know.
Are these cars stock? Not just these but the test of of them. Some of the times these cars run like the 427 vettes and camaros and even 340 dusters run times that are hard to believe are from stock cars.
Was there a faster American cars in 79? I can't think of any.
That Impala looks a little beat up and wore out. Kind of like my ice cream machines.
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Haha I did a take out last night at the diner and the wife wanted a milkshake.
One sip and she's like : this ain't no McDonald's crap 🤣🤣
I wonder how the Hell Macdonalds stays in business selling that overpriced garbage.
Back in the late '60s my buddy had a 64 Impala SS 327 3-speed manual a wall full of trophies.
@@larryjensen1388 Larry, that car screamed out for a 4 speed Muncie M21 swap!!!! 3 on the trees are horrible choices under any circumstance.
Did you say that Trans Am had an Oldsmobile engine.
As a 78 T/A from CA owner......i cry when people talk about power numbers. at least it looks good and im the second owner after my dad. i got that going for me
Did the Impala have a bobble head doggie on the rear window deck?
I've had both cars. They are completely different animals. Chevy had nothing in 1979 to match the bigger engined Pontiac, but the Vette & Camaro were close. The Chevy had an upgraded 4.10 rear, while the TA was stock. Had he upgraded the gears also, it wouldn't be a race. Much of the extra weight is emissions equipment, which was non-existent in '64. My '81 TA ran low 15's when I got it, but by then the auto manufacturers had given up on engines & tuning, & were focused exclusively on style & fuel economy. I'm hoping to see 12's next year, with a few upgrades to my factory turbo 301. I too am partly here for the incredible flatulence!
Trans am is a muscle car change my mind
That 79 trans am - fully optioned, with the Pontiac or olds V8 is a 3900 lb car WITHOUT driver.
That 327 was built on friggin Wednesday
Always thought of the Chevy 327 as one of their better Motors. To move a big boat like that to those ETS and MPH is really impressive. Even though it's lighter than the Trans Am there's a lot more mass to move.
Kudos to the Impala for being able to shift the stock shifter.
That TA has all the right curves but that Impala knows how to make biscuits and gravy and brother I'm all about the biscuits and gravy.
Hey I worked on the Pontiac cars in a dealership. They are what I call plastic cars. The compression ratio what a joke ! I squeezed some extra hp out of a 305 cid when I rebuilt it 84 Trans am . It had twin tbi swirl port intake manifold cowl induction . Oh yeah glory days . I was always sweet on the 77 trans am 400 4 speed screaming eagle on the hood .
I had two of those trans Ams. When I got my first one people made fun of me and I said “ hey, I’m gonna get a bj in this car you just wait” and I did get one, and she became my wife. Good looking woman too. I’d rank her as an olds cutlass supreme 455 sx car. Classy but badass with still plenty of muscle under the hood and a great looking rear end if you know what I mean... reliable too and doesn’t come with daddy issues like a mopar. Actually still married too her and I guess you could say she’s my daily.
Cool channel. Great cars and good info. Then, the farts!
Loves me impalas . I haz a 68 ss 327 and a 70 vert with a ls3
Nice race. Fairly close match up. The Pontiac tears will be extra salty today.
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